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Hello, and welcome to Saber. I'm Anny Rees and
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I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we're
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talking about birthday cake. No,
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Lie, Nope. This episode
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goes out to three of my
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closest friends, Caitlin, Katie, and
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Marissa. Hi. Yeah, Hello. These
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ladies are extraordinary friends.
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We've been together since before
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elementary school. Yeah, and twice
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a year we do trips together. And they literally
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brought tears of my eyes when I crossed the finished line of my
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last race and they were all there with amazing signs.
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They're so supportive. I value their friendship.
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And they all have birthdays
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within a month of each other, including
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one that, as this podcast releases
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the day of this her birthday today, So
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happy birthday to all of you. And
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also, I forgot that listener mail
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about slitting the cakes through while
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children's scream. We were like,
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whole, We've we
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want to talk about this. That was
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so great. Um, do you have a
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cake preference? Lord? I love a cake.
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Um. There's something about like the springy texture
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and the contrast of that with like the creamy frosting
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and the nostalgia factor. I feel
1:17
like my entire childhood was just a series
1:19
of kid's birthday parties. Um
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with that giant cheat cake from
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grocery stores. Oh goodness.
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Um. My preference, even
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when I was a kid, actually has always run towards
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less sweet, like German style deserts,
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like a soccer tort which my dad used
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to make us, a chocolate layer cake with
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apricot filling and chocolate ganosh,
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and it was almost bitter. It was so good. But
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I have a hard time turning down any
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cake. Yeah, I don't
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know. Something about like ice
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rinks and cheat cake just puts
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me in a good mood. We are coming up with
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the song titles today. I
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sprinks and cakes again.
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If you have written this song or
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if it needs to be written right, free
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title yes and then send it to us. Dessert
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wise, for me, cakes are at the lower
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end of my tear. Okay, but I
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am a big fan of the spectacle cake.
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Oh yeah you are. I've seen you make
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at least one of these. Yes, I like
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making an exploding volcano cake for
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the volcano Pompeii, which happened on the
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same day I was born, just like many many years
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ago. Well, sure, not
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a vampire or anything like that. So
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you say not a vampire
2:36
other monsters have immortal qualities
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to Lauren. Um.
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And my most memorable cake is actually one I made
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for one of my aforementioned friends, Katie, and
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it was just a rainbow bunt cake, but
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I don't think she was expecting it, and it just became
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this really meaningful thing. And it actually snowed
2:53
in Georgia, which was a huge deal. And
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I made a stairway ramp
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that it into another snow ramp that went
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down a hill into another rap, and
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I convinced my parents this was safe using the
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old they did it in home alone defense and
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this actually worked. How
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old were you? Its like, oh
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my goodness, I remember my
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dad. He was like, just because I do it
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movies, I don't think that's a good idea. My
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mom kind of thought about it for me. She's like, yeah, I
3:21
did do it in that movie. Didn't there and
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it worked, but she my mom didn't make me go first,
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and then when it was successful, then
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she let Katie go. Um.
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And then I have another friend who we celebrate joint birthdays
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together and her mom is like a really
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good baker, and
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um, she made a SpongeBob
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themed pineapple cake
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that was pretty that's beautiful.
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It looked like a pineapple had figurines
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on it. I was in college.
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I'm not ashamed. But
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anyway, let's get to our
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question. Birthday cakes. What
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are they? Well,
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um, it's a cake you have to celebrate
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someone's birthday. Makes sense.
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That's not always the case. Oh
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well, okay, it's also a flavor. Um. And
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I suppose that any cake can be a
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birthday cake, or even anything that you shape like a
4:18
cake. But the American concept is
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a two layer cake with some kind of filling between
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the layers and some kind of icing to
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cover it. Um, you put tiny candles
4:27
on it, and you like them, and you sing happy
4:29
birthday to the celebrant and they blow the candles
4:32
out, and then you slice and distribute the cake to
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the partygoers. And I
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guess I've never really thought about it before. But as
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I was writing that out, I was like, this is
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heck and weird. It's pretty
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strange. Why do we do this?
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Well, we'll get to that later, we will.
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Uh. First, let's talk about nutrition.
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It's like the number one health food, right.
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Oh yeah, absolutely, I started
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to mind starting cake my
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mouth. Uh. Hey,
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that's a valid life decision. It's all about balance
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um. According to the Internet, a serving
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of yellow cake with chocolate frosting is
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one eighth of an eighteen ounce cake,
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equalling out to sixty four grams per
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slice. That slice contains about your
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daily recommended intake of fat, grams
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of sugar, and basically nothing of value.
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Um. I mean, there's like two grams of protein
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in there. Um, there's some iron, there's
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some value in the happiness
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that you get from sharing, nothing
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of nutritional value, nothing
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that your body can turn into like stuff
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that you need for your body, unless
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it's a Monster's Inc. Situation where
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you can take the energy from happiness
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and convert that into actual energy.
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I haven't done the research on it, um,
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I just know that that seems to be
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what's happening in Monsters Inc. I'll
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call Sully see if they've got any research
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on that. Yes, Oh,
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I almost went on a whole Pixar unified
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universe. Stand alright, anyway,
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Okay, numbers, there
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are around a million types
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of cake? Is
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that? Is that an approximate approximate
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number. Anything you can imagine
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can be and has been, a flavor of cake just
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about. But here are a few, uh
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notable mentions. Will say Okay yet
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Brooklyn Blackout Cake named after
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the post Pearl Harbor blackout drills in Brooklyn.
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What. Yeah, I've never heard of that German
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forest cake Gooey butter cake,
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which is a cake I made the mistake of making for someone
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and now they want it every year. Um. Moravian
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sugar cake a potato cake courtesy of the
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Moravian immigrants in North Carolina. Enslaved
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people in the South made some of the most creative and innovative
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cake recipes, incorporating ingredients like coconuts,
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coconut cake, chase late
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chase cake, the German BlackBerry
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jam cake complete with a year old
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jar of jam, and Saved your Christmas
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Cowboy cake made with cooked down raisins,
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and of course Mayo cake.
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Oh I've never had a Mayo cake and I'm still I
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mean, I like the tang of like sour cream
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and a cake. Yeah, listeners
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sent as a recipe for Mayo cake, and spite
7:15
my intense dislike of Mayo, I
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do think I would like it because I mean it's just it's
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more for like texture,
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Yeah, kind of like putting putting in a cake. Yeah.
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Birthday cake, however, is as
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mentioned before, a flavor unto itself
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now um, by which people
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seem to have spontaneously agreed that birthday
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cake is vanilla cake with vanilla frosting
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and maybe like raspberry filling and probably
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sprinkles. I'm not sure
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how and why everyone simultaneously
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decided this. I think it must be a like
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sensory. It's very pretty thing, kind
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of like how pizza it's always pepperoni and
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cheese. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you're right,
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because my favorite cake is definitely chocolate,
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but it's not as like visually
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yeah, like fun fetty flavored share.
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We'll get into fun oh we will, Oh
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we will, we will, But
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so during the height of the birthday
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cake flavor madness, which
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we might still be in, I'm not sure. Birthday
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cake flavored Crispy Creans and Oreos
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and jellybelly, jelly beans and flips,
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candy coated pretzels and Peeps and
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three Musketeers bars and m and m's and
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air heads and red vines. Birthday
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cake tea it's rohitous and herbs
8:30
and sprinkles um Birthday
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cake vodka. It's a perhaps surprisingly
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popular flavor for nutrition bars and way protein.
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Birthday Cake yogurt and ice cream and
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frozen drinks. Birthday cake popcorn.
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It's coated in cake batter, infused white
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chocolate, and again topped with sprinkles.
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Marie Calendar once had a birthday
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cake pie which was like a cream pie
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topped with two layers of fun fetty birthday
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cake. That's spectacular.
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I I don't
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know what humanity has wrought with that one.
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I don't either, but we all knew
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it was about to happen. I
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feel like it's one of those things that, like bearing
9:10
witness to it in person, like you just
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you're just instantly go insane. It's like Thulu,
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You're just like, yeah, your mind
9:17
cannot just breaks yes, and
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then you start putting
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handfuls of it in the now, rubbing
9:25
it on your face. That
9:27
does sound like a horror movie waiting to happen. Anyway.
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The flavor of birthday cake
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seems to be vanilla cream and a little bit
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of berry, and according
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to data from Nielsen, birthday
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cake flavored stuff saw a sales increase
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of over between
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This trend is not dead, folks, no, not
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at all. One. Rachel
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Sugar Perfect Perfect
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I know Um, writing for Vox, said
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birthday cake as a flavor. It's
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the simplest kind of birthday cake, cheerfully
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uncomplicated, the primary colors
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of cake. Birthday cake is basic
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and it is pretty, and in an ironic
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twist of anti aging, it reminds us all of when
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we were basic and pretty too. Wise
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words wise words.
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Uh, there's a place in As
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I've mentioned before, I come from a very small
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hometown, and there wasn't
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a lot in the way of drinking
10:32
options, Like you could go to a restaurant
10:34
and get beer, but there was one place
10:37
you could go that was sort of no, there's more than
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one, but there was one place that we did go. Um
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and on your birthday you got a free birthday
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cake shot and it
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came with like candle and
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it was a whole thing. I did involve whipped
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cream. M M yeah, I think so. Jeez.
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They were very nice, But I mean,
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you don't want to do more than one birthday cake
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shot. It's good that birthday
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is only once a year. Yes,
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that is the allotted amount of birthday cake
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shots. The body can handle only
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once a year. Um.
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If we look at numbers, they're they're kind
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of hard to nail down because there is so much cake
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happening. Sure, but in
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over sixteen million more Americans used
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a box cake mix as opposed to making
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one from scratch, and a
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lot of people report a feeling that quote, it
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doesn't count if you make it with a box.
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I disagree, but I understand the feeling. Oh, I
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absolutely disagree. Yeah, I mean I
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disagree specifically because the only time
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I ever made a layer cake from scratch,
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I spent all day doing it and
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it was just exactly
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as good as one that I could
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have gotten from Publix or Kroger. And
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I was like, well, first
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and last time for that one,
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and done, as they say, But
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the story of the cake is not done. No,
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we have some history for you coming up. But first
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a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and
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we're back, Thank you sponsor, And we're
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back with some history of cake, mostly
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birthday cake. There's a lot of cake history
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out there, Oh my goodness. Yes,
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we dip into a bit of it here and there, but we
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tried to centralize. We generally
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do. Sometimes we're successful,
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other times we're not. But alright,
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the cake is largely associated
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with celebrations and
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especially birthdays, and this association
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goes all the way back to ancient Egypt, where
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the huge deal that was the celebratory
12:43
crowning ceremony a k
12:46
their birth as
12:48
a god of the pharaoh um
12:50
and it was such a big deal that the celebration
12:53
was widely adopted. If
12:56
I saw a big party, I was like, OK, able
12:58
to do that too. Though
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this did not necessarily include
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cake. The Bible references
13:06
a birthday celebration for a pharaoh dating
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back to three thousand b C. Again
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probably their birth as a god,
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not their actual state of birth. Yes,
13:16
the ancient Greeks took this practice and
13:19
added dessert. This dessert
13:21
was typically a baked full moon shaped
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cake in honor of the goddess Artemis,
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who was the goddess of the moon, among you
13:29
know, other things. To make the cakes
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glow like a moon would, candles
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were lit and put on the cakes.
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But backing up a step, the ancient
13:38
Romans were the first to make birthday cakes. They just kind
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of did it on the deal. These
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cakes were made of a mixture of yeast, flour,
13:45
honey, and nuts, and were at first reserved
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for weddings and maybe the
13:49
fiftieth birthday of a famous dude,
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supposedly Emperor Hadrian would send
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cakes to birthday party invitees who
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couldn't make it. Oh, I like that. I
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know it's a power move, but I like it. All
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right. If I'm getting cake, I'll
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take I'll take it. Going off
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of that sort of, for a long time, Christians
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considered birthday celebrations a thing for
14:11
Pagans, and thus even at
14:14
least they did it first. But sometimes around
14:16
the fourth centuries, see, Christians didn't about
14:19
face and started celebrating the birth of Jesus
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Christ. One of the reasons behind this was
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the hope that people already celebrating the Roman
14:25
tradition of Saturnalia would sort
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of transition to Christmas.
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Women's birthdays weren't really a thing most
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Europeans celebrated until the twelfth century.
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Lots of societies didn't keep birth records
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for anyone except for royalty until
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like, yeah, like the Middle Ages or thereabouts. The
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Greeks did, but they had those priorities like
14:45
mostly old dudes. But by around
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this time, around the Middle Ages, Catholics
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were keeping birth records, and it was also
14:53
common to name a child for a patron saint,
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so instead of a birthday, you would basically
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celebrate your name day. And I
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don't know what I mean by that in Game of Thrones,
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but but historically a name day was
15:03
when you'd have a party on the day um
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that you're saint was celebrated, and
15:09
this is still traditional in some Catholic communities.
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China also had a birthday celebration,
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specifically for a child's first
15:17
birthday. If we look at
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the less ancient and more modern birthday
15:21
celebrations complete with cake, we
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need to look at Germany's Kinderfest,
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a fifteenth century celebration held four children.
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The morning of a child's birthday, the birthday kid
15:31
would get a cake with a number of candles
15:33
equaling their age plus one, the
15:35
plus one representing the hope that the coming
15:38
year would be healthy, the light
15:40
of life, as it was called. The
15:42
candles are specifically the smoke from them
15:44
were meant to bring your wishes up
15:47
to God. However,
15:49
it was a test of endurance because
15:52
no one was to enjoy the cake until dinner,
15:56
like they would replace the candles all day
15:58
as they burnt down um. The idea
16:00
of Kinderfest was that on their birthday,
16:02
a child was more susceptible to evil spirits,
16:05
so the party was partially like a form of protection.
16:08
Oh, how interesting. If
16:11
the child in question made it through the day. Could
16:13
just imagine you'd be smelling it. Oh,
16:16
I would be, and that's me um.
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They would then attempt to blow out the candles
16:21
in one breath while making a
16:23
wish, and if they were successful, their
16:25
wish would come true. As
16:27
today, you were not meant to share that wish.
16:29
You couldn't tell anyone or
16:32
it would or it won't come true. We all
16:34
know that as fact. Absolutely
16:38
perhaps this was the case, or perhaps it was
16:40
this, or perhaps it was both. Because
16:42
there's a lot of history going on. You
16:45
would find birthday cakes shaped like the baby
16:47
Jesus and this was more a celebration
16:49
of him than you. And
16:52
side note, before Christmas
16:54
this year, I drove past a church marquee
16:56
that said it's not your birthday
16:59
and I was like, you don't know me
17:01
sign it could be
17:04
they don't know. It's not reserved for we
17:08
can share birth we can lots
17:10
of people do. I think that's the whole math problem.
17:13
Yeah? See, Okay, all right,
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well let's talk about Count Ludwig von
17:17
Zenzidorf. Okay. In
17:19
seventeen forty six he had an
17:22
epic birthday feast and festival
17:24
complete with cake and candles. Quote,
17:26
there was a cake as large as any oven
17:28
could be found to bake it, and holes made in
17:31
the cake according to the years of the person's age,
17:33
everyone having a candle stuck into it and
17:35
one in the middle. I
17:39
guess that was pretty epic. Yeah.
17:41
When England picked up the tradition, they added
17:44
symbolic objects baked within the
17:46
cake. Coins and thimbles were a
17:48
typical thing. The coin was lucky
17:50
and represented wealth. The thimble, meanwhile,
17:53
meant you would never marry. So I guess you didn't
17:55
want that one. Dang. I mean that's
17:57
a crappy party favor. Ah.
18:00
Yeah. Anyway, apparently
18:03
even today cakes are baked with fake
18:05
coins and candies in the UK and listeners
18:07
please right in to confirm or deny. But
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until the Industrial Revolution, the birthday cake
18:14
wasn't accessible to most people, and
18:16
that's because the ingredients were cost prohibitive.
18:19
Also, the Industrial Revolution is when
18:21
modern leviting agents like baking soda and
18:23
baking powder were invented. Prior to that,
18:25
you had to physically work the fluff
18:28
into baked goods by beating air into
18:30
eggs or a butter and sugar. Many
18:32
cakes prior to this would have been a denser than what we think
18:35
of today, more like a pound cake or fruit cake kind of situation.
18:38
And also this is when home kitchens started
18:40
to have ovens and the
18:42
middle class was expanding all of this. Ovens
18:45
do help they do just
18:47
cooking a cake on an open fire. It's
18:49
not fun. No,
18:52
I can't imagine it would be. And you don't
18:54
have to take my word for it. I was
18:56
on a lovely tour at the Atlanta Historical
18:58
Society one time, and uh, and yeah,
19:00
the nice lady in their kitchen was baking
19:03
a cake from scratch and just
19:05
I was just like, oh dude, and she was like, I know
19:10
I have enough trouble. My oven is
19:13
particular, but I have enough
19:15
trouble with an oven. So if
19:18
we look at um more candle traditions
19:21
or beliefs in the South, the number
19:23
of candles left lit after you attempt
19:25
to blow them out with your first breath represents
19:28
the number of years till you marry. I
19:30
assume if you're single. Oh
19:33
twist or
19:35
oh, you're right. Uh.
19:39
There's a recipe supposedly from Texas from
19:42
one for a little girl's birthday cake made from
19:44
corn meal dust, honey, a wild
19:46
turkey egg, buttermilk, butter, and
19:48
soda. Cornmeal dust.
19:51
Yeah, I don't use that too frequently
19:53
in my The recipe
19:55
specifically called for, like if you take
19:58
corn meal and you put it in
20:00
a sack and then you transfer it to another
20:02
sack, you like shake out the dust remaining and
20:04
keep doing that until you have like two cups
20:07
of corneal dust. That sounds like when
20:09
I don't have any cake flower. You know, you can
20:11
make cakes, you have to like sift
20:13
it five times, and I do it once and then
20:15
I'm like, no, no more that
20:17
that's enough. That's better be cake flower. That's
20:20
fine. None of my bake does turn out exactly
20:22
like I want them to, can't imagine. Yeah,
20:27
So, by the late eighteen hundred's birthday cakes
20:29
were fluffy, layered, filled, and frosted,
20:32
and many were decorated with writing like
20:34
a many happy returns of the day. Along
20:36
with the birthday humans name. In
20:38
eight we get a little
20:41
song called good Morning to All, written
20:43
by Patty Hill and Mildred J. Hill.
20:46
Its original purpose was sort of a pre class
20:48
warm up song. It quickly
20:50
spread across the States. In
20:54
one Robert Coleman published a book including
20:56
the song but with different lyrics, Happy
20:59
Birthday to You. The phrase
21:01
happy Birthday didn't start appearing written
21:03
on cakes until after that song became popular.
21:06
Huh, and it's finally
21:09
in the public domain, it is. Yeah,
21:11
we could sing it right now if that wouldn't be super
21:13
obnoxious. I was getting I was
21:16
up. Lauren shut me down. You
21:19
can thank Lauren for that, listeners. In
21:21
nineteen o six, the science journal Nature
21:24
published a letter suggesting a superior
21:26
way to cut round cakes, assuming
21:28
that there's going to be leftovers. He was talking
21:30
about Christmas cakes in particular,
21:33
but I had to include this, okay.
21:35
So rather than taking wedges out,
21:37
which leaves a large surface area of the interior
21:40
exposed to the elements to drying out,
21:42
the writer recommended essentially
21:45
having the cake into two semicircles
21:47
and then taking a slice right from the center, like
21:49
all the way across the cake, like a big rectangle right
21:52
out of the center, like a cross section. Yeah,
21:54
and then to store it, you just push
21:56
the semicircles together and then
21:59
you don't leave an edges to
22:01
dry out. That's
22:04
cool, right, Wow,
22:06
I'm gonna show that off. Next
22:08
time I have a cake for somebody,
22:12
we have even more cake history
22:15
for you. But first we've got one more quick break
22:17
for a word from our sponsor, and
22:27
we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. But
22:30
what about bucks cake must
22:33
cake mix? Yes, yes, well
22:35
in the United States, it really took off
22:38
post World War Two, but it
22:40
was around in the nineteen thirties, thanks in particular
22:42
to a surplus of molassus. In
22:45
December of nineteen thirty, the company P. Duffin
22:47
Sons applied for a patent for an
22:50
quote invention that relates to a dehydrated
22:52
flower for use in making pastry products
22:54
and to a process of making the same. They
22:57
were really trying to make use of molasses,
22:59
and the was a way to dry it out and add
23:01
it to flour mix. The
23:04
recipe called for one hundred
23:06
pounds of flour and one d pounds
23:08
of molasses for this this thing that they
23:10
were patenting. Um so it did not skip on
23:12
any of this, and from this the
23:14
company got the idea to patent this method
23:16
when it came to cake and cake
23:19
mixes. From the patent quote
23:22
in the ordinary preparation of pastry products,
23:24
there are a large and very number of ingredients
23:26
which must be used, which means keeping a complete
23:28
stock of materials on hand. This
23:31
is not only expensive and inconvenient,
23:33
but necessitates careful measurements and
23:35
mixing, and therefore the provision
23:37
of suitable apparatus. Therefore,
23:40
in addition to the above, m satisfactory
23:42
results or failure occurred to frequently,
23:46
which represents a serious loss of time, of
23:48
money, of materials, and of
23:50
energy. The plight of the
23:52
cake maker. It's true,
23:55
it is true, no personal experience.
23:57
I don't like it. M m m m mmm. Deaf
24:00
and Sons offered several flavors of boxed
24:03
baked mixes like fruitcake, nutbread,
24:05
and brand muffin, along with Devil's Food
24:08
and Spice Cake. I set boxes,
24:10
but you actually bought these in a can one
24:12
cents for fourteen ounces in
24:15
three They submitted another patent for
24:17
a cake mix that required the baker to add
24:20
eggs. From Deaf quote,
24:22
the housewife and the purchasing public
24:24
in general seemed to prefer fresh eggs, and
24:26
hence the use of dried or powdered eggs
24:29
is somewhat of a handicap from a psychological
24:32
standpoint, and the date here is
24:34
important because it contradicts one of the most important
24:36
boxed cake myths that
24:39
the fresh eggs bit was in response to a
24:41
focus group by the man who coined the
24:43
term Earnest Dictor, who
24:46
found through his survey that women
24:48
wanted to feel more involved in baking and
24:50
thus wanted to add fresh eggs
24:52
to the mix, as opposed to using the powdered
24:54
kind already incorporated in
24:57
the nineteen fifties. Dicter did consult with
24:59
Betty Crocker, but that was decades
25:01
after the patent. Huh, maybe
25:05
just reinforced it. Yeah.
25:07
While World War Two was going on, flower
25:09
companies were preparing for the wars
25:12
end and preparing to sell convenience,
25:15
and by the end of the nineteen forties, over companies
25:18
had a box cake mix they were selling.
25:21
Of note, at first, Pillsbury
25:23
used the just add water method
25:25
as opposed to competitors Duncan Hines
25:27
and Betty Crocker. Pillsbury eventually
25:30
became a convert, though, to the fresh
25:32
eggs yes. However,
25:34
in a funny look at human psychology, it turns
25:36
out people were more likely to say they'd buy mixes
25:38
that required you to buy eggs, but that they were
25:41
actually more likely to buy mixes
25:43
that didn't require them to do that. I
25:46
find that very interesting humans.
25:50
Either way, Boxed cake sales saw a
25:53
massive slump in the nineteen fifties, putting
25:55
many companies out of business, or at least they
25:57
got rid of that particular product. And
25:59
this this is one dictor, and a survey
26:01
about women needing to feel more important to the process
26:04
by buying fresh eggs came into play.
26:06
But that might have helped.
26:10
It's really the icing, which is my least
26:12
favorite part of cake, by the way, that
26:14
came to save cakes stay. This
26:17
allowed for a lot of creativity in
26:19
cake decoration, prepackaged icing.
26:21
Yes, yes, yes. A survey
26:23
conducted in the nineteen nineties um that found
26:25
while a majority of women that responded
26:28
that they almost always make a cake from scratch, what
26:30
they actually meant is that they make it using the
26:32
box man. Yeah, fascinating.
26:35
I know, I know, I know. For a while,
26:37
my famous brownie recipe in high school
26:40
was totally a Duncan Hines boxed
26:42
mixed and people would ask me for the restaurant
26:45
I'll be like, oh, you know, it's you know, just
26:47
a little bit of this, a little bit of that, which
26:49
wasn't a lie.
26:53
But I think that kind of reminds me of aspects
26:56
and how like frosting
26:58
comes in and it gives you this thing
27:01
where you can personalize
27:03
it, put more work into it.
27:06
Yeah. Yeah. By
27:09
Pillsbury had ads for fun Betty
27:12
flavored cake, So hello, Katie, that's one
27:14
of your favorite flavors. Twelve
27:16
was the beginning of the birthday flavor cake trend. And
27:19
then in a study published
27:21
in Psychological Sciences found that when
27:23
people perform rituals before eating,
27:26
it heightens anticipation and people report
27:28
the food than tasting better, like
27:31
lighting candles and singing Happy Birthday before
27:34
eating cake. Yeah,
27:36
I can totally see that. I
27:38
like a good a good ritual. Yeah
27:40
yeah, it gets you all excited. We
27:43
sort of talked about that in our Forever
27:46
ago episode of Sugar Um.
27:48
How it's you're
27:51
probably seeing excitement as opposed
27:53
to like hyper hyperness caused
27:55
by sugar. Yeah, it's it's a little
27:57
bit of both. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
28:00
you're excited. There's cakes, there's there's
28:02
probably favors. Well,
28:07
back to that listener mail that
28:09
we read, right,
28:12
I did look into it a little bit, um
28:14
and we have a couple more traditions
28:17
from around the world. Briefly, Um
28:19
so yeah, we read this listener male about the Danish tradition
28:22
of kagaman humanoid
28:24
shaped cake and after the birthday
28:26
song is sung, the birthday human then
28:29
slits the throat of the cake man with a
28:31
knife while everyone screams
28:34
rat. You can look at pictures
28:36
these cakes can get pretty
28:39
unsettling. I gotta say, um,
28:42
And I was saying off Mike that for me, a
28:44
lot of these birthday traditions have taken
28:46
a turn for the horror because I watched so
28:48
many horror movies. Um, but please
28:51
if someone has like theo of this
28:54
and please yes, Um
28:56
yeah. I was looking around and there's a lot of
28:58
birthday traditions that don't necessarily
29:00
involved food. I tried to limit it to
29:02
the food ones. In Russia, the
29:04
birthday kid brings candy for their classmates
29:07
for all their classmates on the day of their
29:09
birth. Chocolate
29:12
cake is apparently traditional in Norway. In
29:14
Australia, I've seen buttered
29:17
bread topped with sprinkles
29:19
called fairy bread, and that's a birthday
29:21
thing, I believe. Yeah,
29:25
okay, and my favorite and I
29:27
promise it will involve
29:29
food by the end um
29:31
I read that in Switzerland, parents will hire
29:33
a clown to tease and torment
29:36
the birthday child for hours or even days
29:39
leading up to the party, culminating in
29:41
the clown putting a pie in the kid's face.
29:44
They get an actual pie in the face, get an
29:46
actual pie in the face from
29:49
a tormenting clown. And yet is it Switzerland
29:51
one of the happiest countries in the world. That
29:53
would mess me up. My
29:57
my older brother when I was four, he
30:00
had a Batman themed
30:02
party. There's somebody there addressed as a
30:04
joker, like a professional, and I wasn't
30:06
allowed to go to his birthday party because you know, young
30:09
sister, and he doesn't want to. Of course, I
30:11
went anyway, and
30:14
there's I believe video exists
30:16
of the joker clown getting in my
30:19
face and laughing and say like, oh little
30:21
girl, and I pushed him into the pool.
30:24
I was grounded. The
30:30
laugh at my face cloud. Yeah, that's
30:34
amazing, he
30:36
said, you were four, that's
30:38
so amazing. Oh
30:40
my goodness. It's really funny
30:43
too, because in the video it
30:45
looks as though I'm just
30:48
like not even listening because he was kind of to
30:51
the side, and I just suddenly
30:54
struck out pushed him. Okay,
30:58
Um, I'm so glad that there's
31:00
a video of this. Yeah,
31:02
but we need to find like a VHS player. Okay,
31:06
I'm working on it. Sorry, older
31:09
brother. If you happen to be listening, you
31:12
were right. Not all
31:18
of these traditions are great. We would love to hear
31:20
from any listeners around the world if you have
31:23
these kind of birthday traditions. Yeah, yeah,
31:25
anything involving clowns for sure, Cake,
31:29
the Evil or the better. Um, any particular
31:32
traditions to you and your family
31:34
or yeah, just from your global neck of the woods.
31:37
Yes, and this about
31:39
brings us to the end of this episode and to listen.
31:47
Yeah, yeah, Chelsea
31:49
wrote, while listening to you speak on the evolution
31:51
of the refrigerator, it reminded me of a food
31:54
my grandmother used to make when I was growing up, Tomato
31:56
aspect. I still remember my horrifying
31:59
first taste this red jello. Imposture
32:01
was beyond my ability to comprehend in my mother
32:03
later, I do explain to me that my grandmother's
32:06
day having a dish like tomato aspect at parties
32:08
demonstrated your financial status. Of
32:11
course, I've listened to your episode on aspects but founded
32:13
fun tie into the ice box and the eventual
32:15
refrigerator tomato
32:18
aspect. Oh yeah, if you're not expecting it. Who
32:21
huh. That's got to be shocking. It
32:23
does. Now that would be a birthday pray.
32:26
Oh oh
32:29
man, you could do that with like a red velvet cake.
32:31
You can make like a tomato cake. Oh my god,
32:33
oh jeez. Okay um
32:36
Genevieve wrote, I was just catching up on your
32:38
Thanksgiving episode and I heard your call for
32:40
input on big holiday meals. In
32:42
our house, it's Christmas rather than Thanksgiving,
32:44
for which we go all in. It ends up
32:46
being a multi day exercise in gastronomic
32:49
revelry. We begin by having ribs
32:51
on Christmas adam as in the day before
32:53
Christmas Eve. Then we get to the main
32:55
event, the Christmas Eve smorgess board.
32:58
I got this idea partly from these near
33:00
the end of Signs, when mel Gibson tells his family
33:02
to each pick whatever they want for dinner, and
33:05
partly from the fact that I was very pregnant three
33:07
Christmas Eves ago and thus was craving
33:09
everything. What happens is that
33:11
I gather input from everyone who will be in our house
33:14
on Christmas Eve about what they'd like to eat for dinner
33:16
that night, no matter what it is, and
33:18
then I cook all of it, no matter how
33:20
and congruous the dishes they end up
33:22
on the table together. For example, this
33:25
year, we had grilled steak and vegetable skewers,
33:27
shrimp, cocktail, beef ramen, billy
33:29
cheese steakes, stuffed peppers, and garlic
33:32
parmesan chicken wings. It was a
33:34
million small bites of many different things that
33:36
I like, rather than one huge dish of one delicious
33:38
thing, and it was perfect. That
33:41
sounds amazing. That does sound amazing.
33:43
Oh man, what an assortment to you.
33:45
I love right kind of get a peek
33:48
into someone's current state of mind.
33:52
That's beautiful. Props to whoever ordered
33:54
the ramen. I love that I
33:57
like the strip. Uh
34:00
well, thanks to both of them for writing
34:03
in. If you would like to write to us, you can
34:05
Our email is hello at the savor pod dot
34:07
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34:18
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