Evan welcomes Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry, co-founders of 'Been There Got Out,' and acclaimed authors of the must-read book on navigating toxic relationships and high-conflict divorces. Their conversation delves deep into the indicators of toxic relationships, emphasizing the often-hidden nature of emotional and financial abuse. Lisa shares her personal story of living in an abusive relationship for two decades, highlighting the difficulty in recognizing and admitting to being in such a situation. Both Lisa and Chris discuss the concept of coercive control, explaining its detrimental impact on relationship dynamics and emphasizing the importance of conflict in healthy interactions. The discussion also covers the strategies for handling high-conflict co-parenting situations, underscoring the necessity of detailed and enforceable parenting plans to mitigate post-divorce manipulation. Finally, they touch upon the pervasive issue of legal abuse in the court system and share insights into navigating such challenges, including the empowerment found in self-representation and the importance of focusing on recovery and support.

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02:09 Drake's Generosity: Paying for a Fan's Divorce
04:07 Polyamory and Young Divorces06:50 High-Impact Couples Therapy: A 16-Hour Fix?11:19 Ask Evan: Navigating Finances in Divorce13:32 High Conflict Divorce Coaching with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry25:16 Understanding and Combating Legal Abuse31:45 Navigating Divorce with Legal and Emotional Support32:20 The Strategy of Building a Paper Trail in Divorce33:46 The Journey to Self-Representation and Victory34:37 The Challenges and Strategies of Going Pro Se37:26 Supporting Friends in Toxic Relationships41:06 Empowering Survivors Through Shared Experiences44:34 Advice for Navigating High-Conflict Divorces49:26 Reflecting on Personal Growth and Professional Evolution53:54 Engaging with the Community: They Said It Segment