The real talk starts after the episode ends!!! Join me and Michelle Gail as we let the recording run post-episode, exposing the raw and unfiltered truths about the challenges we've faced in the education sector. In this episode we spill the tea on how even the most educated adults can't resist distractions. From taking phone calls to texting during training sessions, we've seen it all. And then, the stories get real—Toni shares a jaw-dropping experience from a so-called exemplary school, where she witnessed unrealistic and overly rigid expectations leading her to challenge why adults want children to conform to expectations they can’t even meet.

This uncut session is not for the faint-hearted. We go beyond the surface, discussing the unspoken truths in our sector and why some are resistant to change. Get ready for an unfiltered sneak peek into the candid post-podcast conversations of Toni and Michelle. Stay tuned, and brace yourself for the unexpected!