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Scottish Premiership. From BBC

1:01

Radio Scotland. It's

1:03

all over. Point

1:06

apiece in

1:08

the end. Sheldon with

1:10

a better team in

1:12

the first half. Rangers

1:15

in the second. A warm

1:17

handshake between Brendan Rodgers and Philippe

1:19

Clément. Quite the opposite amongst the

1:21

players though, who are all coming

1:23

together there. There are several brawls

1:25

going on. It's

1:28

been a classic in this fixture. And

1:32

tempers are frayed on the pitch. Despite

1:35

the warm embrace between the two

1:37

managers. Carter

1:39

Vickers is pointing the finger

1:41

at Todd Cantwell. And

1:43

there are other incidents which the

1:46

officials are keeping their eyes on just now

1:49

as well. But once the dust

1:51

settles, it will settle in a six goal

1:53

thriller. Here are Ibrox. Paki

1:57

thinks Celtic will be pretty happy with that. They

2:00

were under the caution the second half, given

2:03

they survived the Cyril Desser's goal. It

2:05

could have resulted them in taking nothing from this

2:08

match. But

2:11

they've tossed away a two goal lead in

2:13

the match. Dominant first

2:16

half performance, Maida

2:18

giving them a fortuitous lead

2:20

inside 22 seconds. Tavernier's attempted

2:23

challenge ricocheting back off Maida into

2:25

the net, with Matt

2:28

O'Reilly's penalty making it

2:30

2-0, a handball by Goldson

2:32

to Mofas Elbow. After

2:35

the cross ball came in, that went to the VAR

2:37

as well. And it was

2:39

2-0 Celtic at the break and you just didn't

2:41

see a way back into it for Rangers.

2:44

But they dug in until they primo made

2:46

the change, seemed up for right at

2:48

the break, and they managed

2:50

to find the route back on to

2:52

terms, eventually Tavernier's penalty after a

2:55

fairly fabulous shoulder by Alastair Johnston.

2:57

That too went to the VAR.

3:01

And then Kelly McGregor's mistake leading to Dallas,

3:04

he missed a flip to D'Corralza to make a

3:06

2-2 on 86. Late,

3:08

late drama here. Adam

3:10

Ida on 88, less than two minutes

3:12

later, restoring the Celtic lead at 3-2.

3:16

Before a wonderful Ravi Matondo goal, the

3:18

pick of the bunch, you

3:21

have to say, similar to the

3:23

goalie scored against Hibbs here last Saturday,

3:26

as he bent it into that

3:28

far corner from the left-hand side of the box

3:31

to ensure that Rangers manage

3:34

a share of the spoils here. They

3:37

remain a point behind the

3:39

champions, but crucially, they

3:41

have a game in hand to come on

3:44

Wednesday evening in the City of Discovery when they

3:46

go to Dens to take on Dundee. When

3:49

they are, and they are two points clear,

3:51

with just one game to go before the

3:53

split. And

3:56

that comeback might just inject

3:58

all kinds of comes at the

4:00

end of the season, so to

4:02

call it a knockout, Rangers recover to

4:04

pick up one of their own, they

4:06

finish here, after one of the classics

4:09

in the old firm fixture, Rangers 3, Celtic

4:12

3. What

4:15

a 90 minute, well more than 90

4:17

minute, award without doubt, one of the

4:19

most incredible, dramatic

4:22

and effenst controversial games that we

4:25

have seen all season long, and

4:27

it is six goals

4:29

shared and it is a point of feat for

4:32

the two title rivals, and it will be

4:34

interesting to see which of the

4:36

sides actually looks at that

4:38

and takes more for the match than given, with

4:41

circumstances at the top of the table, as Liam

4:43

was saying, it is Celtic still taught now by

4:45

a single point, but Rangers have

4:48

that game in hand, win

4:50

that and it's in their hands

4:52

to go on and win the

4:54

title, of course it is also in Celtic's hands

4:56

given the pair, go head to

4:58

head in the final old firm fixture of

5:00

the season, that will be announced just

5:04

as we get beyond the split there

5:06

by the SPFL, but you

5:08

know it's going to be pretty early on

5:10

after the split, because the

5:12

authorities want to avoid any kind of

5:15

title of the cider, an incredible

5:17

game at so many talking points, there was

5:20

a fair bit of drama at the end

5:22

there it

5:24

was Todd Cantwell who, not

5:26

quite sure what was going on there, he was

5:29

reacting certainly following a late challenge, a challenge

5:31

late on in the game, he did

5:34

a bit of a fabulous silver in the wake of that,

5:37

he then got involved with Jake Taylor after

5:39

final whistle, Taylor reacted, various

5:41

other players reacted, it

5:43

took a fair bit to settle it all down and

5:46

then as the Celtic players were leaving the pitch

5:48

Alex Ray, the Rangers coach

5:51

came across and he decided he

5:53

wanted to get involved with

5:55

that Taylor as well and eventually he was pushed

5:57

clear, I think it was John T who

6:00

came across to push

6:02

him away. I mean it's just madness

6:05

but let's be honest tension,

6:09

passion runs high in this fixture.

6:11

At the end of this fixture

6:13

everyone safely up the tunnel but there may well be

6:16

some comeback in the week of

6:18

all that. The fans now slowly

6:20

beginning to leave

6:24

their seats at beginning to vacate

6:26

the stadium. I'll get the Stewart

6:28

and Parton in just a moment or two, Tom English that

6:30

was sensational stuff wasn't it? It

6:32

was, yeah. Second, I mean you

6:34

don't know where to start with the second half.

6:36

It was it was incredible.

6:39

Drama, var controversy,

6:41

edge, nastiness, rancor,

6:44

quality, skeptic

6:46

stuff. It was

6:49

noise in the crowd, it was incredible. Absolutely

6:51

incredible. We couldn't take your eyes off it. Totally

6:55

intoxicating. 3-3, I think I

6:59

disagree with Pat on who

7:01

gets the most out of it. Yeah, absolutely. I

7:04

think you know Celtic, they're 2-0

7:06

up and then they're 3-2 up and

7:08

they have the league in control

7:11

of their own hands potentially and they've

7:14

let it slip. They've let it slip twice. I

7:17

think Rangers are, I think

7:19

Rangers are, Celtic would have

7:21

absolutely, before Celtic would have taken a draw.

7:23

Absolutely. But they were twice in the winning

7:25

position in this game and they

7:27

didn't win the game. So I think they'll have to be disappointed

7:30

and Rangers will go in there,

7:32

they'll mop their brow and they'll just be so

7:34

relieved. Yeah, because

7:37

we've got funny things, just in terms of

7:39

the game. You're right, because 2-0 at halftime

7:41

starts to get absolutely dominant. They've been the

7:43

first chance at the same day at the

7:45

party with a show which is saved and

7:48

then, I mean, I suppose it all turns into

7:50

space in a couple of minutes.

7:52

So, Silva gets booked for diving and it

7:54

comes as no surprise to anything to see,

7:56

I think, who was watching on because it

7:59

felt like that. was always coming and then actually

8:01

you see it again like well hold on that

8:03

was unfair because he was actually fouled

8:05

Johnson did catch him well it

8:08

was a penalty it's the boy who cried wolf

8:10

well so like because a minute before he died

8:13

to try and win a penalty and it was

8:15

a laughable dive yeah and then

8:17

it looks like he dives again beaten gives it

8:19

gives a gives the decision but

8:21

no and I've so began

8:23

the drama Richard I'm so James Daveney look

8:25

I know he scored plenty penalties but he

8:27

has missed four this season he steps up

8:30

nervous no it's already got a

8:32

penalty within 16 90

8:35

seconds it appears that

8:37

ranges of levels and this place is

8:39

going mental the roots are just about

8:41

being blown off only for that fateful

8:45

image to appear in the big screens

8:47

here VR check you

8:49

look back yet it's a foul it was called by

8:51

Pat it is a foul so yeah understand why that

8:53

is that's ruled out SEMA

8:56

then with a short deflectors

8:59

past heart you think wow there's only gonna be

9:01

one winner now surely because it would all be

9:04

ranges and don't tell if

9:06

they go back up and back and eat a

9:08

smashes one in the bottom corner and then

9:10

just just the drama towards the end there I

9:12

mean actually for the way

9:14

that looks nothing were utterly dominant for staff but

9:16

yeah and Rangers were not utterly dominant thing happen

9:18

they were very way we bet and they were

9:20

better side absolutely the better side I mean

9:24

the end was it was it the draw just

9:26

about the right result got

9:28

out no that is a big question I

9:32

think something will have regrets about this yeah they had

9:34

so much they were so dominant in the first half

9:36

and you said that they had good chances and

9:39

there could have been more than two nil up and the probably

9:41

should have been more than two nil up if

9:44

they'd gone to three Rangers aren't coming back from three

9:46

nil and you could argue it could and should have

9:49

been three nil so they allow the

9:51

door to be open and Rangers were good enough

9:53

to smash their way through that door they got

9:55

their act together in the second half as the

9:57

boys were saying in commentary they're puffing much higher

10:00

their aggression levels were way

10:02

higher and they put Celtic under

10:04

a lot of pressure and Celtic didn't really cope with

10:07

it all that well for quite a chunk of time.

10:10

It gets it back to 2-2

10:13

when I'm thinking about it, they'll have won

10:15

this game now, they'll settle down with Gregors

10:17

on the pitch, there'll

10:19

be a bit of composure, they've been over this track

10:21

a million times before, but

10:23

no Rangers, I mean there's something about this

10:25

Rangers team, they're kind of, you know, it's

10:27

hard to put away. And

10:30

at half time I would have bet

10:33

the house on Celtic winning this game,

10:35

such was their superiority. But

10:38

under Clemo, Rangers have found

10:40

steel and they took a long

10:43

time to find it today, they

10:45

probably lost it again, but there

10:47

is steel in this team, absolutely,

10:49

there's self-belief in this team. For

10:52

previous Rangers teams they talked about their self-belief and they

10:54

talked about the, oh we believe we're a better team

10:56

than Celtic, and they never

10:58

proved it. This team

11:00

has more about it than the previous teams.

11:05

And they showed it, it's not just talk, they showed

11:07

it today. And okay,

11:09

they haven't got the win, I don't think they deserve

11:11

to win, but they got

11:13

a draw and I would

11:16

say they got out of jail, but they will

11:18

be happy, happy men. And

11:20

they might have won it actually, I mean even

11:22

after Mattone, what an equalizer that was, magnificent strike.

11:27

Philippe Clemo is out and he's trying to get

11:29

even more noise, as if you could get more

11:31

noise out of the fans inside the stadium. He's

11:33

trying to really rally them. And then

11:35

with Burchler the last kick of the ball, Deutscher, again

11:38

it looked like it was a great strike, just

11:40

fitting past the post, just stunning,

11:43

absolutely stunning. In terms of the football,

11:45

there was so much out there that

11:47

you could discuss and dissect,

11:49

I suppose. But in terms of just

11:51

the drama of the occasion, it was

11:53

a wonderful game of football. Clearly there

11:56

was the disagreement at the end there.

12:00

people having to be calmed down and separated.

12:02

There was also an incident, I must

12:04

have, I didn't see this at the time, I

12:06

did get a text alerting me the fact that

12:08

it had happened but Skye of

12:11

course were showing the game live and

12:13

their commentator Ian Crocker pointing out that

12:16

objects have been thrown at the Celtic

12:18

dugouts and the police were in there.

12:20

In the midst of it all but I've

12:23

seen pictorial evidence of the police in there

12:26

picking up objects that have been thrown. I

12:28

think that was in

12:30

the wake of the second Rangers going

12:33

disallowed actually that that had happened

12:36

but it would appear, I mean certainly it would appear

12:38

that no one has been injured in the midst of

12:40

that but clearly absolutely horrible, don't want

12:42

that kind of thing going on. So I mean

12:45

there will be so much

12:48

for everyone as opposed to mop up

12:51

in the wake of this. How

12:53

many awards have you got to do this, just this

12:55

from the website? I'll have to talk to the boys.

12:59

Normally I'd be maybe writing and

13:01

maybe have a lot of it

13:03

finished by now but you couldn't open

13:05

the laptop here, you didn't know which

13:07

way this game was going. As soon as the Rangers started to come

13:10

back you think okay what was going to be

13:13

Celtic dominant, Celtic take, big step towards winning

13:15

the League again becomes something completely different. I

13:17

don't know what that different is Richard, I'd

13:19

have to get back to you on that

13:21

but start to consider what I'm going to write

13:23

about because this is a game that

13:25

kind of scrambles the brain a little bit. It

13:28

is, it is, right we'll give Tom just a

13:30

few months to start to cogitate. Stuart

13:33

McCall, halftime let's be

13:35

honest, we just looked down and

13:37

out. Come on Richard, what did I say at halftime?

13:39

You said I've got to get better. You

13:42

said we know how different games

13:44

can be, more than 45 minutes than wow

13:47

I mean certainly just apart from anything else that

13:50

Rangers performance in the second half was much more

13:52

what you'd have been anticipating from them wasn't it?

13:55

Not even particularly on the ball although they had the

13:57

five or ten minutes spell where they did but just

13:59

oppression. stopping Celtic playing

14:01

out from the back and that was the key

14:04

obviously changed a half time to go higher it

14:06

did leave at times for kicks we KO'd up

14:08

against Golsan one for one and when Eda come

14:10

on it was going to be a different one

14:12

but I think if you look at it both

14:14

sides got a lucky goal Eda

14:16

gets a lucky goal and Seema

14:18

gets a lucky goal they both get

14:21

two fantastically taken penalty kicks you know

14:23

Tabernet's a brilliant kick and Riley's the

14:25

same and both get I

14:27

mean Eda's is a really really good

14:29

strike I think the Tondo's is outstanding

14:32

so all the goals had a bit of

14:34

difference but all had similar in the

14:37

fact that you know they had a lucky one a

14:39

really good one and outstanding penalty I think

14:42

I don't think there's a dog like Tom says did Rangers

14:44

deserve to win it no but I think Shelling back it

14:46

was straight away by saying they didn't deserve to lose

14:48

it neither I think I do always a fair result I

14:50

think Celtic had good opportunities the first

14:52

half I think but when I did an

14:55

easy save from Eda should have done better

14:57

and he has a brilliant outstanding save

14:59

Ha has a really good save just before

15:01

halftime and silver and I think second half

15:04

majority play was in there in the Celtic

15:06

box but going back to that

15:08

if I were playing here and before the game if

15:10

I'm a Celtic player I'm coming here you take a

15:12

point if I'm two and a

15:14

look and then when it goes to two all

15:16

at that stage mentally and psychologically in the stadium

15:18

you think there's only one winner and then for

15:20

Celtic to go and score a goal like they

15:22

did then you know you can

15:25

see the dugouts reaction their players reaction and

15:27

they think yeah but then for Rangers to

15:29

come back and again I was here last

15:31

week and Liam was here so Matondo did

15:33

that against Hibbs and

15:36

as Pachy said in commentary when you know

15:38

somebody who's playing on the left is alright

15:40

footed comes inside you've got to show him

15:42

down the line thankfully the boy never and

15:44

Matondo's done that most of his

15:46

career I mean as in you know listen

15:48

nine times I'd send them I end up in a stand

15:50

but he actually has got that in his locker you know

15:53

he's not a winger that's going to take you down the

15:55

outside and cross it in with his left foot brilliantly he'll

15:57

cut in and a whip ball into the top corner which

16:00

you know it showed and it was a bit of magic

16:02

just to get Rangers back where they were and

16:04

I think all in all I

16:06

think at times maybe because of conditions it

16:09

was a great game in terms of the

16:11

intensity, the drama, the excitement

16:13

I think in quality you

16:16

know there was a lot of carelessness I was saying the

16:18

same at Rangers and Packham saying the same second half of

16:20

Celtic they were giving it away hence

16:23

probably McGregor who comes on, probably the most

16:25

composed midfield player out there he gives a

16:27

ball away and Rangers get back into the

16:30

game through that but all

16:32

in all from

16:34

a start I think first time

16:36

I couldn't speak of the start because it was

16:38

just such a shock and

16:40

then at the end it was just

16:43

drama, as you say, right to the last seconds when they're

16:45

going down the tunnel but that's

16:47

what it's all about and all to play

16:49

for so

16:51

as it stands Celtic played 32,

16:54

they've got 75 points, Rangers played 31, they've got 74

16:56

points the

16:58

goal difference, Rangers plus 50, Celtic plus

17:00

51, Celtic have scored seven goals more

17:02

than Rangers, but Rangers have a game

17:04

in hand, it's due to be played

17:07

on Wednesday night at Dens Park against Dundee's league,

17:10

and we're saying that may be dependent on the

17:12

weather of course and the pitch and how on

17:14

earth that recovers in the wake

17:16

of the, well what it had

17:18

to deal with in the few days

17:21

leading up to yesterday and of course at the 90

17:23

minutes that were played there Celtic

17:26

have six games to go, Rangers have got seven

17:28

games to go, there is one further meeting

17:31

at Celtic Park date

17:34

to be announced Rangers,

17:37

if they get the win at

17:40

Dens Park will go top, if they draw

17:43

they will stay behind on goal

17:46

difference Pat Bonner how's

17:48

your nerve, you think this was Celtic's

17:50

afternoon despite the fact that they didn't

17:52

get the win? I think

17:54

when you look at the game and you look at

17:57

all the big situations in the game and that critical

17:59

one where the

18:01

referee comes back and makes alters

18:03

his decision on the free kick that Rangers have

18:05

scored. So this is for the goal that we

18:07

would have made it 2-2, and that would have

18:09

been two goals in the space of 90 seconds.

18:13

And that would have been an even bigger momentum

18:15

swing, wouldn't it? Yeah, and I think from that

18:17

perspective, that would have changed the complex of this

18:19

game. And that's where I'm sort of

18:21

kind of focusing on. And from Seldik's

18:24

perspective, to get away with that one, obviously

18:26

to get the goal, and I agree with

18:28

Tom and Stuart in relation

18:30

to when you get a goal with a couple of minutes to

18:32

go, then you're in the drive and say, but there was eight

18:34

still eight minutes to go, there was no 10 minutes to go

18:37

from that goal's perspective. And

18:40

then you're into a situation where you

18:42

know what it's like last 10 minutes

18:44

in this game, anything can happen. So I

18:46

think if Bryn Rodgers and his players go

18:49

back inside and they reflect on it, yes,

18:51

they'll be disappointed in one it, but I

18:54

think they're relieved to get out of

18:56

here what to draw and that then

18:58

still sets them up to retain their

19:00

championship because they still have Rangers to play at home.

19:02

And that's the big game. And I think before the

19:05

game, everybody was saying, Rangers need to win this game,

19:07

really won this game. If Seldik gets something out of

19:09

it, and you know what it's like, Stuart,

19:12

you know, we've been in this

19:14

situation many times, the games against

19:16

Rangers determine the league in many

19:18

ways. Now Seldik have got the

19:20

results so far, Rangers haven't beaten

19:22

them yet. And that's critical for

19:25

me, I think, even with so

19:27

many games left, very few

19:29

games left, they still have an

19:31

opportunity when they get, and

19:33

they've played the way they did in the first half

19:35

at Seldik Park, then I think they will go into

19:37

that game, favorites, Rangers showed

19:40

resilience. Seldik nearly morphed into

19:42

Rangers in the second half, nearly. Nearly, right.

19:44

We'll pick up more on that. Philippe

19:46

Clamont is prepared and ready to give

19:48

his reaction live to Curtin. Yes, we're

19:51

live in the tunnel area with the

19:53

Rangers manager, Philippe Clamont. I'm just pausing

19:55

slightly while one of my colleagues gets

19:57

absolutely ready to rock and roll. Now

20:00

live with Felix Kinal, the Rangers manager, just

20:02

give me your reaction to what was a

20:04

classic derby match and the

20:06

assessment of your team's performance. I

20:09

don't know if it was classic because I

20:11

think my boys did something special today. Not

20:14

the beginning of the game for sure. I

20:19

cannot use that word because my Scottish

20:21

assistants have a word for that that I

20:23

cannot use on television but it's the worst

20:25

way to start the game of

20:27

course like this. And

20:31

then you get a second goal against, I

20:34

think for every manager in the world we

20:37

can't stress about the rules about the

20:39

handball because his ball is deflected. In

20:42

the last second my player is jumping

20:44

with his arm up, yes because otherwise

20:46

you cannot jump but he puts his

20:48

arm away and he touches his shoulder.

20:50

So it's a really unlucky situation, you

20:52

go 0-2 behind. And

20:55

second half we showed our real

20:57

quality, our real personality

21:00

also to chase them, to make

21:03

it difficult for them, to create

21:06

good chances, to score good goals and

21:09

to get a well well well

21:11

deserved points. So

21:14

I think we are more winners

21:16

of the day. It's

21:19

an important thing also 0-2 behind

21:23

against Celtic in a home game to

21:25

not stop. I think everybody sees this

21:27

game is totally different than five months

21:29

ago. Then they would have been dead

21:32

and now they keep on fighting in the last second until

21:34

the last second and then

21:37

you can get what you deserve. It could have

21:39

been one also but I

21:41

think the result is also good. There

21:44

was a huge difference between the ranges of the first

21:46

half and the ranges of the second half. Your fans

21:48

actually booed you off for the first time since you've

21:50

been here at halftime but they were standing to applaud

21:52

you at the end. For you as a manager what

21:54

did you say at halftime to change? I think you

21:56

obviously made one personnel change but what was the big

21:58

difference, the big change? I

22:01

never speak about the team in half time,

22:03

that's between us, that's between the dressing room

22:05

and me. But

22:08

they took the message in the best way

22:10

they can and they showed who they really

22:12

are, that they showed in the second half. For

22:15

you, you say this was a special performance, maybe the

22:17

second half a special day, what is special for you?

22:20

Coming back after 0-2 and

22:25

chasing in that way, never

22:27

giving up, scoring good goals, showing

22:30

a lot of power, resilience, mentality,

22:32

a lot of

22:34

teamwork also with players coming in, doing

22:37

the job for the team and making the difference. So

22:40

a lot of positives after

22:43

this afternoon. And

22:46

we showed that we are where we deserve to be

22:49

in the league. The start of the season

22:51

was not good, but the period after, we

22:54

showed we need to be at the spot

22:57

at the top. Big goals from

22:59

big players coming back for you, Matondo a special

23:01

goal, Seema as well came on, made a big

23:03

contribution. Yes, it's important

23:05

to have Abda back, you see

23:08

how much damage he can cause in

23:11

defences. Of course he comes out

23:13

of a long-term injury so we could not start

23:15

with him, but I'm happy what he

23:17

could give today. And Rabi, we've been working a

23:19

lot, a lot last couple of months on

23:22

these actions for him to

23:24

get more control in his finishing and

23:26

scoring two goals in a row in

23:29

that way. So I'm really proud of

23:31

him also. Like the rest of the

23:33

team, they're working really hard to improve,

23:35

to become better. And

23:38

I think the evolution they made in five

23:40

months is quite exceptional. So I'm really, really

23:42

proud of them. What for you

23:44

does this mean for the title race going forward? Celtic still

23:46

top of the league at the moment, you of course have

23:48

the game at hand? Yes,

23:51

I think we are in

23:55

the place we want to be. Of course

23:57

you want to win this game, but if you start

23:59

like that... 0-2 with a

24:01

penalty like that then it's a really really bad

24:03

scenario I think we managed to

24:05

change the scenario in a really good way but

24:08

we are not not busy with

24:10

this or that or Celtic or whatever

24:13

it's about Dundee again and going full

24:15

for the three points and

24:17

going hard and then you can look the last

24:19

two three three games what

24:22

what the points are but we need to continue

24:24

what we've been doing after

24:28

from the start of January

24:31

we have now 43 points

24:34

no I'm wrong 31 points

24:36

out of 36 what is a

24:39

huge achievement and we need to continue like

24:41

that game by game focusing on

24:43

ourselves and doing the job do you think that's

24:45

a form of champions it's

24:48

a form of potential champions but we have

24:51

a top opponent and it's gonna be really

24:53

interesting and I think everybody who watch

24:56

this game enjoyed it also a lot and it's

24:58

good for Scottish football you have the two teams

25:00

with a level as this competing like this just

25:02

find any concerns about the pitch that you're going

25:04

to in midweek they're up at Dundee no

25:08

I've been focused on this game so about

25:11

picture of other teams that's something to

25:13

look on the next couple

25:15

of days but I cannot change that I'm

25:17

not a good groundsman

25:19

my wife knows that so I'm better

25:21

manager than groundsman so no

25:24

I cannot change anything about that

25:26

that's about Dundee and the Federation

25:28

to see that Scottish football is

25:31

played on on

25:33

good surfaces that it

25:35

can be something an interesting product

25:37

for a for TV to watch. Philip thanks for

25:39

your time. yeah

25:42

really interesting Philip Clemont with

25:44

his reaction to Keratin and

25:46

of course will

25:48

be turning us attention towards Wednesday because

25:50

that is now a huge another huge

25:52

90 minutes for Rangers get a win

25:54

there and they go top of the

25:56

table with that just that

25:59

six games left to

26:01

go. Not happy

26:03

with the the award of the penalty.

26:05

I mean it clearly it strikes the

26:07

arm of Conor Goldson. The

26:09

point he's making is that it's been deflected just

26:11

ahead of that. It's flicked off Maeda so he

26:14

didn't think that should be awarded but what was

26:17

was absolutely clear was his pride in

26:19

his play. As he talked about Stuart

26:21

the team being totally different from five

26:23

months ago he talked about the evolution

26:25

he's really proud of them and I

26:27

think the quote was we are more

26:29

the winners of the day which clearly

26:31

he he goes down your route. Yeah

26:34

I think as a manager when you set

26:36

up and you see a goal going after

26:38

23 seconds like that then it

26:40

puts everyone back and then obviously to go into

26:42

2-0 and he'll know as well that butland's made

26:44

you know one or two really good serves, one

26:47

outstanding serve having said that they did score they

26:49

got the penalty kick from the corner after he

26:51

made the serve but I think

26:53

all in all when you're a manager and you

26:55

come back from 2-0 down and also psychologically when

26:57

you've gone 2-8 and then you lose another goal

26:59

to then get back into the game he will

27:02

be proud of his players. I think

27:04

like I say at times and I'm sure when you

27:06

look back over the game there were a lot of

27:08

unforced errors I think maybe the conditions

27:11

obviously the swirling strong wind didn't

27:13

help and just the pressure of the

27:15

game I played in a lot of fact I played

27:17

here when it was 3-0 and sometimes it's

27:19

not about the great quality although as I said

27:21

there's two really good goals it's

27:23

just about maybe the desire, the press, the hunger, you

27:26

know the tenacity if you go along can the midfield

27:28

win the second balls and then you play from there

27:30

and I think it was a bit of both I

27:32

think like you say Celtic control most of the game

27:34

for the first half without a doubt and

27:37

I think Rangers second half

27:39

Celtic forced barking at forced barking you

27:41

just felt it was coming but I think

27:44

going back to the handball we saw it

27:46

you know when it comes in my head it does get a little

27:48

nick on it and it and Goulston's unlucky

27:50

but it hits him on his elbow and

27:52

I think certainly if it were the other

27:54

side I'd have been screaming for a penalty.

27:56

Yeah, sure I would. Yeah, definitely sure. Stewart's

28:00

going to leave it there because I think we can head

28:02

back down live to Carradine. He has just been joined by

28:04

Brendan Rodgers now. Brendan,

28:07

what a match for Tizabi, just give me your reaction

28:09

to it and the assessment of your side's performance. Yeah,

28:12

I thought the performance was very,

28:14

very good to come

28:16

here, to play with

28:19

no supporters and to

28:21

play with that courage that we did.

28:24

The first half we were excellent, we could have

28:26

had the game out of sight at

28:28

that point. Some of our players

28:30

played the composure in how

28:33

we played, the pressure that we put them under.

28:35

It was very, very pleasing. You

28:39

expect some sort of reaction in the second

28:41

half. I'm disappointed with the penalty because that

28:43

gives them a little up in

28:45

the game whenever we were much, much the better

28:47

team. I think

28:50

if you watch the bag, I think the

28:53

referee made the right decision in the game.

28:55

He's obviously seen what

28:57

we all see in the

29:00

fact that our player Ali has

29:02

made a really good recovery

29:06

challenge. He's going

29:08

one way and then he gets the ball,

29:10

knocks it away. The player then simulates and

29:12

goes over. I thought

29:15

it was right decision in the game but it

29:17

went against us so you then expect a little

29:19

bit of pressure at

29:21

2-1. You get a fortunate deflection

29:23

which brings it to 2-2. Then

29:26

you have to stand up and fight.

29:28

The players did that. We

29:31

get a third goal, excellent goal

29:33

by Adam. Then obviously they

29:35

then get a really good

29:38

third goal. Overall, I think

29:40

the so pleasing

29:42

for the team and the mentality

29:44

that we showed. We're disappointed not

29:47

to win but to leave here today

29:49

with it all in our hands is what

29:51

we want. For that,

29:53

I'm really proud. We had to

29:55

deal with direct balls and long

29:58

balls and we're dealt with. that well and

30:01

I think like I said we the team that played some really

30:03

good football. Our pundits

30:05

on Sports Island or on the BBC were raving

30:07

about your first half performance in particular, is that

30:10

the best your team's played for you since you

30:12

came back? No, no I think

30:14

we've played other games, I think it's just the

30:16

occasion isn't it, the pressure

30:21

maybe that people felt we were under coming to hear

30:23

but we played with the cameras that we would want.

30:26

We were really attacking with and

30:28

without the ball which is what we want and

30:31

like I said with a wee bit more

30:33

finesse or a bit better choice on the

30:35

connecting pass or last pass we would have

30:37

been more in front so we made the

30:39

crowd really edgy and that's what

30:41

we want and like I said we started the

30:43

second half off well but the penalty just changes

30:45

that a little bit but we really stood up

30:47

to that second half and like I said

30:49

some of the football in the first half was outstanding. So

30:52

on the penalty were you saying that you were hoping the

30:54

referee would stand by his original decision to the yellow card

30:56

for a simulation? Yeah, I think that

30:58

there was lots of decisions in the game and

31:01

just looking at that one there Ali's

31:03

done really well because he's on a booking and he can't. He

31:06

had to be perfect. What

31:08

he does and I think his recovery

31:12

challenge was very very good where he gets the

31:14

nick on it and clearly the guy that the

31:16

player goes over who went over a few times

31:18

during the game and

31:20

that somehow it's wide

31:23

the VAR and obviously gives them a

31:26

little up in the game. Your team's

31:28

played well, you scored three goals at Ibrox. I'm

31:31

wondering will you feel a wee bit like it's the one that

31:33

got away two and a half time and you were leading at

31:35

85 and 92. Almost

31:39

there, almost there as you indicated you wanted. Yeah

31:41

but it's okay. As

31:44

I said we've come, we've played well,

31:46

we've showed quality, we've showed heart, really

31:49

really difficult conditions to play in, it was

31:51

very very windy but

31:54

I thought we played very very well

31:56

and like I said they come to here with

31:58

no supporters. to show

32:01

that mentality. For us it was

32:03

about leaving here and heading and

32:05

taking it. You're never going to win anything today but

32:08

to take it in the right direction and

32:10

that's what we've done. Now we've got other

32:13

games, we'll have Rangers to play at

32:15

home and like I say

32:17

it will have some players that will be a

32:19

bit further down the line in their fitness. With

32:22

that back in hopefully we can get the

32:24

three points but there's still a lot to

32:26

play for. Absolutely, you leave here

32:29

top of the league with all your players

32:31

back off the back of a good performance.

32:33

For you and your mind I'm

32:36

sensing there's not much doubt that you fully

32:38

believe you're going to retain your title. That's

32:41

a long way to go, that's what I said. I

32:43

said we've got a long way to go, six games

32:45

but we're in a really good position leaving here today.

32:47

Yes, having it in your own hands. We

32:51

appreciate it, thank you very much. Thank you.

32:53

Thanks Ben. Cardenas

32:56

San with Brendan Rodgers

32:58

talked about the overall performance being very,

33:01

very good excellence in the first half.

33:03

I don't think anyone could disagree with

33:05

that. He also talked about

33:07

the game, while it could potentially

33:09

have been out of sight the

33:12

way that they played in that first half.

33:14

He is looking at it from a positive

33:16

point of view, he talked about making

33:18

it in the right direction. He said

33:22

it's all in our own hands. I suppose

33:25

the issue is that it's also

33:27

all in Rangers, own

33:29

hands. Both managers are picking up

33:31

on the positive in this game. You know, it's a

33:33

draw, three goals each and

33:35

obviously with Celtic coming

33:37

here and he's right to say without the

33:40

fans there's nothing easy place to come to,

33:42

you've got to show the right mentality. I

33:44

talked about that in the first half, they

33:46

had that, they played but they pressed, they

33:48

did all the things you would expect from

33:50

a Celtic team in that first half. Second

33:52

half, I did say that they nearly morphed

33:55

into Rangers but that

33:58

didn't quite happen. got

34:00

away with it and no more from that

34:02

perspective. Right, again we can get some live

34:04

reaction. This is from the man who tied

34:07

it all off for that spectacular goal, Ravi

34:09

Matondo. Ravi, very well played.

34:11

Have you scored a better goal in your career? I

34:13

don't think so. I don't think so, especially

34:15

in the importance of this game and the manner of the

34:18

game and the way we started off the game. And, you

34:20

know, there's a lot against us, but we come

34:22

out second half fighting and that's the mentality that

34:24

managers installed in us. And yeah, I'm

34:27

obviously grateful and thankful to obviously get a goal

34:29

like that. So hopefully many more. Let's

34:32

enter a few secrets. I'm sure it was a big halftime

34:34

team talk. It had to be at 2-0 down, didn't it?

34:36

Yeah, 100%. Like the

34:38

manager said, at halftime, he didn't recognize us as a

34:40

team. He didn't recognize the

34:42

team he's been working with for the last five months. But

34:46

like I said, the mentality to come out in

34:48

the second half after the gaffers basically give it

34:50

to us, it was, you

34:52

know, it was top and, you know, everyone

34:54

on that pitch from the

34:56

guys who started the game, from the guys who ended

34:59

the game, it was top notch. Absolutely.

35:01

It's all about resilience and coming back.

35:03

And I suppose our refusal to lie

35:06

down. Yeah, exactly. You know, these

35:08

kind of games, they're tough. They're tough as you

35:10

know, we're fighting for something and, you know, a

35:12

game like that. And when you go 2-0 down

35:14

and, you know, halftime and it's looking like, you

35:16

know, you're out of it already. But when you

35:18

have to have mentality in these kind of games

35:20

and, you know, we show that in the second

35:23

half, especially and obviously with the goals we scored

35:25

and, you know, the crowd behind us, even though,

35:27

you know, it was difficult for them to watch

35:29

as a fair staff. It wasn't going

35:31

our way. But ultimately we got

35:33

what we needed and, you know, went from there.

35:36

Yeah. It's a point at home, but does it feel like

35:38

much more? In

35:40

a way, just because the way we started off the game, it

35:42

wasn't the way we planned. It wasn't, you know, the way we

35:44

wanted it to go. But yeah,

35:46

we got something out of the game and that's very

35:48

important in the long run. And yeah, we're grateful. And

35:51

you had a view from both sides, from the bench, first of all,

35:53

and then coming on and contributing and getting the equalizer. What

35:56

was it like being in that stadium today? Like

35:58

I said, first off was difficult. to watch for

36:01

us and I was here for the boys involved and

36:03

you know for the fans you could hear like the

36:05

atmosphere but like I said second half the way the

36:08

boys come out and the character we showed especially like

36:10

James Tavernier like he always steps up for us in

36:12

big moments you know he missed his last pen and

36:14

the way he just rifled it top corner I thought

36:16

this guy's got big something he's

36:20

got a big outfit for sure because yeah the way

36:22

he done that and got us in the game and

36:24

then the way we you know continue to fight and

36:26

go go on and ultimately get a

36:28

point at our game which looked tough at

36:31

the start we're very happy with that yeah

36:33

yeah big courage I'm sure that's what you

36:35

meant we know exactly what you meant in

36:37

terms of where that teach you now that

36:39

kind of courage do you fully believe that

36:41

Rangers can go on and win this I

36:43

don't, Celtic's still top tonight but you have

36:45

the game in hand we have there's

36:48

still a lot to play there's still a lot to

36:50

play you can call it right now both teams obviously

36:52

showed that both capable so we just

36:54

we focus on ourselves and we keep you know

36:56

keep our feet on the ground and keep working

36:58

hard and in stolen what the manager's you know

37:00

putting in us and then yeah we'll take game

37:02

by game and we'll see how things will pan

37:04

out yeah it's finally for you personally and how

37:06

you still enjoying your your football here and what

37:08

do you hope still to achieve with this club

37:12

you know what we want to achieve you know I want

37:14

to achieve with the club and you know but like I

37:16

said it's game by game I'm obviously happy to be here

37:18

and to help the team and that's my job that's what

37:20

I got brought in in the first place so yeah I'm

37:22

obviously here to to help the team and obviously

37:24

to yeah to win things here because that's

37:26

what the club demands and that's what we demand from each other. Robbie

37:29

thank you very much for your time and I'll go well please. It

37:32

was a stunning goal it tied it all

37:34

up it was the goal that got eventually

37:36

got the point for Rangers a three three

37:39

draw Rangers and Celtic here at

37:41

Ibrox stadium we've

37:44

interesting actually because when

37:46

Curdie spoke to Philippe

37:49

Clemon he asked him what was it

37:51

you said at halftime what was it

37:53

you said that turned that performance around

37:55

and managed to make it quickly is

37:57

that you know That's between

37:59

the first three. Amy what's what's sad about

38:01

Dressing room stays on that verse ignorance of

38:03

course get a name with and as Robbie

38:05

with don't have a Masters in a said

38:07

I have a I was a great might

38:10

as well as a bonus I I did

38:12

not recognize you as a team. But.

38:14

With Reuters as not rocket science,

38:16

what were we wouldn't stay in.

38:18

The second half was a change

38:20

a tactical teams when. I'm

38:23

trying to get a foot tall blondes. Who.

38:25

Sat on on a water for the

38:27

first half. didn't go and press the

38:29

game. Second, Half he released

38:32

himself so of as he came from the

38:34

manager at half time Also a not suddenly

38:36

put scales under pressure because he got to

38:38

get avoid speak quickly and and would what

38:41

would the way the weather conditions with enough

38:43

for Celtic them by and then and now

38:45

was a trigger for the rest of the

38:47

players them to person behind tumblers.to me was

38:50

that was a difference in the second half

38:52

to the first half you can talk about

38:54

mentality knowledge that comes after that. But.

38:56

As I think the tactical change was a key

38:59

of he sat often skills with places where it

39:01

and I don't I would be the same as

39:03

a force home and saw of the five minutes

39:05

must insist I've been to start winning the

39:07

ball apply to heart doesn't want a kitten and

39:10

several does it change is it takes we can

39:12

all go off and brings he did on said

39:14

any Kentucky I am but yeah it was it

39:16

was more of. An

39:19

insensitive for men, just noise and the think that

39:21

scouts or moose and a half siamese we

39:23

go is too slow to be higher than that.

39:25

The ended a good month. A month awarded to

39:28

sleep is let's say at least goals in a

39:30

little bit. Explore it because suitors and got to

39:32

go into the other midfielder and at least like

39:34

three for three it up with a full what's

39:36

on Weidman for us thirty two now you got

39:38

it and multitude isn't that with it was amazing

39:40

to see that you don't see that videos of

39:42

these of when you pointed out and i looked

39:44

at the picture that for them and. everywhere

39:47

everywhere or interpret everyone was my stop give

39:49

them some sell medicines have been for since

39:51

when the among some this something's gotta do

39:53

and things in only says he is even

39:55

when soon as you might lose sunni muslims

39:58

foreigner by at least in or have enough

40:00

intense Because the last thing you want to do is

40:02

let Celtic take the sting out of the game, play

40:04

balls at the back and just pass it about. The

40:06

crowd probably wouldn't have gone for it. And then if

40:08

you don't do it in the structure, you just get

40:10

picked off. But obviously at half time, the discussions were

40:12

made how they were going to do it. We spoke

40:14

at half time themselves saying, you know, a lot of

40:16

them jump higher and then all squeeze up a bit

40:18

more. We said go some push and then lunge them

40:20

on, which happened and leaves you one for one. And

40:23

sometimes you've got to be brave and do that. It paid off

40:25

in the end. Yeah. And that's

40:27

the penalty that Rangers got. That is a

40:29

controversial moment. There's no question when you

40:31

analyze it. And Brendan did pick up on

40:34

it. And if he's got

40:36

a touch in the ball, we couldn't I couldn't quite

40:38

see on what we've seen in the replays here. If

40:40

he got a touch in the ball, Alsor Johnson there,

40:42

then I don't think that's a penalty. Yeah,

40:45

I'd love to see it again. We're kind of at

40:47

a disadvantage here. You know, I just would like to

40:49

see a close up of that incident again, because it

40:51

is a pivotal moment in the game. But

40:54

obviously Brendan Rodgers thinks that John Beaton

40:56

has got it wrong. Right. Right. Yeah.

41:00

He's five yards away from from that incident. We're

41:02

way up here. The one thing I would say

41:04

is John Beaton is behind it. So so he

41:06

can't see if there's conduct. He's just simply going

41:08

by instinct. He was very sure. He was very

41:10

sure. But that was probably because he'd been watching

41:12

Silva throughout the game up to that point. Well,

41:15

you have to think about a minute earlier. Silva was throwing

41:17

himself on the ground. I think when you see again, there's

41:19

no doubt this contact. Brendan

41:23

Rodgers was saying, has it is

41:25

it Silva gone into the Johnson or Johnson?

41:28

The context after after he's got a

41:30

touch in the ball, if that's the case, then it's not

41:32

a penalty. You have to get the ball. That's

41:36

what Brendan Rodgers is saying. He got a touch

41:38

on the ball. Now, we can't I can't confirm

41:40

that. I think from here, we're miles away, obviously.

41:44

I thought originally it's a dive. Yeah. And

41:46

you see Beaton's reaction. And then when I see it

41:48

again on here on the close in the morning, I

41:51

thought, well, actually does go get go up against him.

41:53

And once he's called to this thing, you know, you

41:55

know what's happening. You know, absolutely. We'll

41:57

chat more. We'll wrap things up here. Let's quickly.

42:00

head back across to the studio because at

42:02

three o'clock it's gonna be off the ball

42:04

it's Ali Defoy and Ray Bradshaw who are

42:06

in the hot seats while the

42:09

old men go off and enjoy the whole

42:11

Easter holiday. Not together I'm sure they've gone

42:13

with their separate families and they've left you

42:15

in charge Ray. Yeah well the old men

42:17

go on holiday such a sad sentence isn't

42:20

it? Just to answer your question I've just

42:22

watched the penalty incident about eight different times

42:24

and it takes a flick off

42:26

Johnson's boot and his leg follows through and he catches him

42:28

on his knee a little bit but I

42:31

like you said we've just watched it about eight

42:33

times and you don't really know so yeah so

42:35

we'll be talking about the game today and also

42:37

a nice kind of football story that I'm sure

42:39

was touched on yesterday and we're gonna be asking

42:41

the listeners about their first trophy after Stenhouse-Mure won

42:43

their first league title and what was it 140

42:45

years something like that so George you won't forget

42:47

after that game I watched the first game in

42:50

the first half in the house and then drove in here

42:52

listen to you guys let's start the second half and by

42:54

the time I got to the BBC

42:57

you could hear two cheers from the Rangers

42:59

end so well I say Rangers end all

43:01

four ends of the stadium so loudly so

43:03

I it was such an ebb and flow

43:05

game so chat that sporting golden ticket Ali

43:08

who I'm guest presenting with today is always

43:10

wanting to go to Masters next week so

43:12

it's what kind of sporting event you wanted

43:14

to go to and finally museums a lovely

43:17

story Karen Bernard and lady I

43:19

think it's from Oban 80 years old and she's

43:21

just visited our hundredth Scottish Museum this week so

43:23

all about that kind of stuff so that's our

43:25

topics doing songs based on size because we're joined

43:27

by Paul McNamee from the Big Esher so big

43:29

small little tiny that kind of stuff so we're

43:31

on three to five and I'm sure we'll still

43:34

be debating if it's a penalty or not by

43:36

5 p.m. I'm sure you will Ray thank you

43:38

very much indeed Ray Bradshaw Ali the four off

43:40

the ball between three and five well

43:42

racing that they're in the studio they're part they've had

43:44

a chance and they've watched it and there is a

43:47

touch by Johnson before

43:49

the collision with silver and if that's the

43:51

case then it's not a penalty yeah did

43:53

he say he watched eight times to make

43:55

that decision I mean it should be a

44:00

problem because they can watch it as much

44:02

as they like as long as they arrive

44:04

at the correct decision. Yeah, but

44:06

I think he was saying he'd watch it eight times, he still

44:08

wasn't sure what it was. Yeah, he's

44:10

not a qualified referee. But

44:13

it is a controversial and it does change the

44:15

game and Brendan was probably right at that moment

44:18

in time, you know, then

44:20

you're on the back foot. Now you're

44:22

now you're you need to handle the

44:24

situation. They lose the goal right after

44:26

it, which was disallowed. That would have

44:29

completely changed the outlook of that game

44:31

and the outcome of that game. There is no

44:33

question of Rangers got that second goal and it

44:35

stood at that point in time and the way

44:37

that the game was developed and with the conditions,

44:39

I think Rangers probably could. And that's why I

44:42

say to Tom, that's why I think that Seldig

44:44

will walk out of this place and say, I

44:47

draw. Yeah, that'll do us.

44:49

But yeah, maybe a little

44:51

bit plain, plain devil's devil's advocate there. Does

44:53

Johnson get a second yellow talent? Well, that

44:55

was the next thing. That was the next

44:57

thing. The referee clearly has to

44:59

look. It can be a foul without being a yellow

45:02

card. Yes. Yeah. But

45:04

absolutely crossed my mind at the time when

45:06

he went across because he had the yellow card out

45:09

and I was going

45:11

to do that waving. You know, look,

45:13

I'm dismissing this yellow card. Father silver

45:15

has not been booked for. That's

45:18

what it was. It was it was taking silver. Yeah. And

45:22

everyone thought he was walking over to Johnson from here.

45:24

Yeah. I was just going to

45:26

put it away again and just just wander across.

45:28

But I agree. I don't think every every every

45:30

foul in the penalty box should be a yellow

45:32

card. It's a set up. It's one of those

45:34

questions. One of those is going to have social

45:37

media exploding from both

45:39

sides. You know, they're they were matching Tom

45:41

if one team won this game. Oh, yeah.

45:44

Yeah. I mean, it's not

45:46

just that there are about 15 separate

45:48

incidents that could all be trending as

45:51

opposed to you for a change. I'm sure they'll get back to

45:53

me eventually. You're right. There's so many,

45:55

so many incidents. I'm sure they'll get back to me eventually.

45:57

There's you're right. It's

46:01

almost a blessing that the game finished

46:03

in a draw because of so much

46:05

controversy. If somebody was

46:07

denied a victory after

46:09

so many controversial decisions today, I think there

46:11

would have been a lot

46:14

to be said about it. There's still going to be a lot

46:16

to be said about it. There will be a lot said. I

46:19

mean, look, people will see that there

46:21

has been a degree of controversy. VAR

46:23

was certainly involved. But actually, over

46:26

the piece, and there was much said about the appointment of

46:28

John Beaton, he handled that

46:30

afternoon pretty well, didn't he? Yeah.

46:33

Listen, he was helped as opposed by

46:36

VAR to make the final

46:38

decisions. And if he

46:40

didn't probably have the help of VAR, then he

46:42

would have made completely opposite decisions

46:44

which would have put him in probably

46:46

the firing line. And that's... Well, I

46:48

suppose if he hadn't had VAR, the

46:50

penalty wouldn't have been given,

46:53

but Desir's goal would have stood. Yes.

46:56

Yeah. But there would be controversy around

46:58

it. Absolutely. That's the point.

47:00

Listen, being a referee is never easy in this

47:02

league. But what I've got to say about it,

47:04

that was a brilliant game. That

47:06

had everything. VAR contributed in a

47:09

way to it. And that's

47:11

the Scottish game. Guys, I get

47:13

bored watching some of the... Not

47:15

disrespectful to the game down in England, the brilliant

47:18

quality, but sometimes I get bored. It's

47:21

so similar. Here you never know what you're

47:23

going to get. I think

47:25

on Mr. Beaton's performance. I

47:28

think if you think he did that well, Richard, that well, he should

47:31

get the game at Parkhead, no? No,

47:33

no, sure. Oh, look, I've

47:35

got the president, Brendan Rodgers said that as far as

47:37

he's concerned, Jordan's one of the best referees in the

47:39

game and it was just simply that one incident. It's

47:41

a tough game to referee, though. There's two penalties. I

47:43

don't think he will buy us in any way. No,

47:46

of course not. Of course not. Of

47:48

course not. Absolutely not. Good job. But

47:51

you have. In a game of such intensity, with so much

47:53

at stake, Southwick at

47:55

a penalty and Rangers at a penalty doesn't

47:57

think it's a penalty and vice versa. You're

48:02

not going to please everybody, it's

48:04

just physically impossible to get

48:06

every decision right and everybody agreeing

48:08

on every decision. The

48:11

one thing I would say, I just thought

48:13

John beaten carry himself very well today. He

48:15

always looked like he was in charge, in

48:17

control, he let some challenges go and as

48:19

players... I

48:22

think that's why, see the foul led up to

48:24

this is go like they've brought back, because he

48:26

had let a lot of play go in the

48:28

first half, little tackles about, I thought, look to

48:30

foul straight away and then I thought, well he's just playing on

48:32

because he's done that in the early part of the game. But

48:35

when you go back, it's just the thing because, see

48:37

when the normal happen, they're only now around the edge

48:40

of your box, but when you're bringing it back 70

48:42

yards. But it still, it was

48:44

only what, three or four seconds from the

48:46

break, silver breaks forward and the goal comes.

48:48

I did say during the game that John

48:51

beaten had sort of can almost allow the

48:53

VAR thing to take over his big decisions

48:55

in the game. But that's not down to

48:57

him, that's down to the process that we

48:59

have in place. VAR has

49:01

such a huge influence

49:03

on the referee's decision, even assistance

49:06

and so on. And

49:08

I just think it's taken away that decision making

49:10

from the referee's... But the one thing you would

49:12

have to say is, I mean, for me that's

49:14

an example of it working really well, because I

49:16

think you look back, you see it and no

49:19

one, unless you're completely biased, no one's going

49:21

to look at that and go, that was

49:23

not a foul. It

49:26

was a foul and it was interesting, unless I

49:28

missed it, unless I missed it, I

49:31

don't think Philip Kremel made a... he

49:33

referenced it at all, did he? No, he didn't. He

49:36

referenced the penalty. Yeah, but not the gesture, it's just a lot

49:38

of goals. But the

49:40

penalty against, listen, last week Rangers get a

49:42

penalty. Storm wall a pocky, storm

49:44

wall a pocky. Absolutely,

49:46

everybody's there. But that's going to go for

49:48

you or go against you. And when you

49:51

come out after the game, you've

49:53

got one week you'll be

49:55

talking it down, another week you won't

49:58

say anything about it if it goes for you. And

50:00

that's the nature of the rules, I'm unfortunate there, because

50:02

my head just does get a neck, but if it

50:04

hits you on your elbow and your arms up there,

50:06

it's a penalty kick. Yeah, I'm just

50:08

looking. So in terms of just the league this

50:10

season, that's Rangers and

50:12

Celtic have been awarded 14 penalties each

50:16

in the league. So 28 penalties

50:18

for the pair of them. Celtic

50:21

have now had two penalties awarded against them in the

50:23

league, Rangers have had three. It's

50:25

an aggregate of 28.5. Wait, wait,

50:27

wait, which is a fair representation of the way that

50:29

most games go and the fact that Celtic and Rangers

50:31

are doing most of the attacking. I mean, I'm not

50:33

trying to get, but I mean, it is, it's

50:36

probably quite nice that they both got a

50:38

penalty. And they'll be doing more penalties until

50:40

the end of the season two, that's for

50:43

sure. Steady on about the Rangers penalties, Richard.

50:45

Well, I was making the point that both

50:47

sides were getting plenty of penalties. I think

50:49

so, it's even. For penalties received, it's even

50:51

over the course of the season. Yeah, absolutely.

50:53

There you go, that tells a story. So

50:55

one more to go between these two, and

50:57

we await, of course, the split. You've got

51:00

the final, certainly that, let's hope

51:02

they've done the Rangers game, goes ahead and

51:04

we say, right, that's the last round of

51:06

posts or pre-split fixtures, and then

51:08

the post-split fixtures will be a nice. Richard, could I

51:10

say something on that? Yeah. Wouldn't it

51:12

be great if every single Celtic Rangers game was

51:14

on at the same time, now in the last

51:17

six games? It won't happen because of TV, that

51:19

they would play them at whatever time, but

51:21

they're on exactly the same time. So you know,

51:23

it's always gonna be the third last game and

51:25

the second last game, is that what you mean?

51:27

No, no, I mean every week now, for six

51:29

weeks, whatever's left, that their play days are at

51:31

20. Oh, I see, oh, I see, I've got

51:33

you the same day. Like the final round of

51:35

a major championship. Yeah. Group stage.

51:37

Yeah, let's do it. Okay. TV won't do it,

51:40

don't, because they want the big debate. You've got

51:42

the power to make this happen. No. It'll

51:45

be okay for Radio 5, but I don't see the TV doing it.

51:47

No, no, they won't do it. You're

51:50

the last thing on Earth. 14 penalties,

51:52

nearly the same goal difference, nearly

51:54

the same points, and give it

51:56

equal right through at the season.

51:58

So, what do you think then? first second

52:00

game after the split. I play second. Second.

52:03

That's how you look at previous years. It's probably

52:05

definitely not going to be the first. It's

52:08

not going to be the last. So

52:11

I'm guessing second, because I kind of know what it

52:13

is. And if you put it down for the second

52:15

last, some frequent result could actually throw that to be

52:17

a title to say the result. You know for sure.

52:19

When was the last time I was on the last

52:21

day of the season? Both

52:23

of them playing. That's been

52:26

against each other. No, no. Yes, against each

52:28

other for the title. Was

52:31

that right? The last one at Parkhead, 4-2. I

52:36

thought the 4-2 game was here. No, no.

52:38

4-2 game at Celtic Park. I was up

52:40

in the stand. I think it

52:42

was the last game of the season. I

52:44

could be totally wrong as a young man.

52:47

I was 19 years old. So Rangers got

52:49

4'd today. Johnny

52:51

Douglas sent off in the game. I also remember that.

52:53

Oh, that's right. I'll tell you what, at the time

52:55

with the TV cameras, there

52:58

was a band or there was some kind

53:00

of blackout or strike. And

53:02

Celtic were 2-1 down that night? Yeah, 2-1 down,

53:04

1-4-2. Wow.

53:08

The guys will be out and they're doing their stats and doing

53:10

all of that looking over it. That's my

53:12

memory of it anyway. That was an incredible night. I'll tell

53:15

you what, Richard, as much as we're

53:17

talking about this next all-firm game, Rangers

53:19

going to be on Wednesday. It's going to be a... Oh,

53:22

it's mad. I mean, the team, Pex, is going to

53:24

have to repair some power because you showed up the

53:27

pitch up there. But then, Motherwell came here only

53:29

a few weeks ago and won. Celtic went to

53:31

heart. So you can't discount all the other sides

53:33

that are going to be battling to take points.

53:35

It won't just be... Obviously, it's going to be huge. I

53:37

have a huge impact on the range of Celtic again. But

53:40

there could be other twists and turns

53:42

and other... Yeah, I mean, the game

53:44

takes place. The forecast is good. Yellow.

53:46

Yellow warning for... Yellow warning. Yeah, so...

53:50

Well, my point, I read that right into

53:52

a couple of hours before... If you're going

53:54

for the championship and you've got six games

53:56

left and you lose points

53:59

to other teams... We did it. You

54:01

don't deserve it. No, we did we did it back in here

54:03

and we're going for the time We got beat on the Kilmarn.

54:05

I want to see nobody else's fault You

54:07

know, we think we'd lost to the last four

54:09

we look we've got beat against Aberdeen Oh, yeah, that's

54:11

goes ahead and we can sit and not in that

54:14

season We can point to loads of things it

54:16

might be you know The gaffa leaving

54:18

loud doing this gas going leaving this this and

54:20

this and everything that went on But then did

54:23

it it was down to what you know, we

54:25

we blew it as players, you know And and

54:27

as Paki says when you go down you've got

54:29

six games left and it's not how you play

54:31

it There's nothing that it's about getting the result.

54:33

It's all about the result Pat often

54:35

talks about the fact that it's that the

54:38

four games between the Rangers and something that

54:40

actually decide the title I think that Celtic

54:42

are unbeaten this season They want to and

54:44

drawn one of the three and

54:46

they're one point ahead with Rangers

54:49

with a game in hand which if they win we just actually go

54:51

in front So it is actually that Rangers

54:53

have coped with it the games against the other team That's

54:56

it. It's out the Celtic have dropped too many

54:59

points against teams that you probably they should be

55:01

beating But they can beat Rangers and still won

55:03

the league. Yep. That's the point What

55:06

then Rangers can be self I can still win the week. Yeah

55:09

Absolutely, and it comes points down to the

55:11

games against selling Rangers I

55:15

mean you still have to deal with My

55:18

very presumptuous their pattern. They're just gonna blow away

55:20

all the other teams. I'm sure klmona can heart against

55:25

against something Arts

55:28

range record this trapey games coming

55:30

up for both of these teams Yeah,

55:33

it's gonna be I mean the bottom line is

55:35

Tom We're in the situation now where with six

55:37

or seven games to go The title is in

55:39

the hands of both the title rivals. I mentioned

55:41

our tight is I mean by Wednesday It could

55:43

be two points. There could be a goal or

55:45

two of a difference for the station. It's you

55:47

know It's nothing talk and you know

55:50

for those of us who are on the outside

55:52

here simply observers I do who love the game

55:54

and I like to enjoy covering the game and

55:56

you just can't ask for any more than this,

55:58

can you? Well you can ask

56:00

for 3 and 14 to beat the

56:03

tension in another dimension, another planet. We'd

56:05

love that. But for

56:07

Tulane it's been fantastic for Celtic, but you

56:10

know, winning these league championships, most

56:12

of them by a street. Great

56:15

for Celtic, not great for the league,

56:17

not great for the competition. This

56:19

is brilliant. I mean if Celtic were

56:21

to win this league, it'd be interesting to hear

56:23

Brendan Rodgers talk about where it would rank in

56:26

terms of his league triumph that he's won with

56:28

Celtic. Obviously the Invincible one was amazing, but

56:30

he's had to grind, it's overcome an awful lot

56:32

this season, as has Philip

56:35

Clemenceau. So I think it's

56:37

fantastic that it looks like it

56:39

made go to the wire, and that's

56:41

great for business. Well 3 months

56:43

ago Richard, they went to title challenge on was it?

56:45

No, no, no, no. So you've got to give the

56:48

manager huge credit for that. No, I mean I remember,

56:50

I've touched on this previously, but when Philippe Clemenceau came

56:52

in and the chat was, they said, look it's

56:54

not a free hit for the rest of the season, but

56:57

you know what, go out there, win a cup, get us

56:59

a bit closer in the league and set

57:01

things up for next season. And within a

57:03

few months he completely turned it around. I

57:06

mean, absolutely. He turned it around in the space of

57:08

45 minutes today. The team were

57:10

booed at half time. If you'd

57:12

understand that, they were well off the pace. He

57:14

turned it around. The man has

57:16

done an incredible job, absolutely incredible

57:18

job. He's inherited a bit of a

57:21

mess, and

57:24

he's instilled organization and

57:26

steel and more goals,

57:28

more points. It's

57:30

just a fantastic run that he's been on. And

57:32

you can hear how thrilled he was with the

57:34

second half performance that his players stood up. You

57:37

can hear what he said from Rabbi Matondo, what he said to them

57:39

at half time. They were unrecognizable from

57:41

the team over the last five months. He's

57:44

a clever, clever guy, and he's done an exceptional

57:46

job. And it's brilliant to see the two of

57:48

them. Brandon Rodgers has been their daughter, and

57:51

Philip Clemont is threatening to upset

57:55

the odds here. And the fans weren't probably

57:58

happy maybe with the lineup. for

58:00

the game but he explained it really really

58:02

well why he made the decisions about putting

58:04

in the players he did and leaving the

58:07

others out knowing that they didn't

58:09

have 90 minutes in them and so

58:11

on so forth and the mentality of that now

58:14

did it work for him in the first half

58:16

probably not but he made the big

58:18

changes then in the second half so yeah he explained

58:20

it and that's what the fans are looking for. I

58:22

gotta say they're looking much different and I know they

58:24

were different across the team it wasn't just any of

58:26

that there were other things he changed but they looked

58:28

more threatening didn't they with Matondo, Silva and

58:30

SEMA. Yeah I'm sorry SEMA. Again

58:33

we said at halftime at least they've got the

58:35

wingers on the bench to come on and whether

58:37

it's I think it was what was it 70

58:39

minutes when he did the swap with Lawrence and

58:41

Campbell to come on and obviously Matondo and again

58:44

as I said before he'd always here last week he did

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against Hibbs, caught inside and so the kids

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playing a lot of confidence now whether he gets

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to start up at Dundee on Wednesday if it

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goes ahead then we're there to be seen but

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they've got players coming back you know

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that they need to get up to speed

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as well same Celtic both sides are the

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same with the squad players McGregor will be better

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you know forgetting a bit of time for him

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for Rangers point of view they'll obviously want to

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get Ridvan back, SEMA's got on the park and

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there's a few others pushing obviously a dowl got

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on as well. It's massive that SEMA's got more

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minutes in his legs what an influence he has

59:17

been on this team and Matondo one I mean

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like having done it last week you

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can imagine Celtic said if you can

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imagine Celtic said okay you can cut inside you're not going

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to do it again oh you've done it again. He shouldn't

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have been allowed to do it at all. But

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I mean the quality of that was just

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outrageous. Yeah but yeah because I know how

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long players spend and managers spend with video analysis

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and going over things and pointing things out and

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Matondo what's the one thing you know about Matondo?

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He can't say not to write for it. And

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I see that all the time by the way

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in the game I was a goalkeeper

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every day I said you're not doing

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that you know and influencing not just from

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an analysis perspective but also the players have

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got to do it on the pitch we

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keep saying that making the right decisions. Is

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Claude on the... maybe he really would?