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I'd like to welcome you back to today's episode

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. I am Shaw and

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I have with me Kiley as

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we explore another

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epic film from

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Nick Cage . It's going to be a little bit

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wacky , a little bit eccentric

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and a lot of what we

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call mayhem and death . The

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film I'm talking about is Drive

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Angry , and

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this one , by many

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accounts , was what

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people like to call batshit crazy

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.

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It was the wildest

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, weirdest long-tongued

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movie I've seen in a really long

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time . But , it was entertaining . I'll

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give it that better than the knowing , because

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the knowing was not entertaining on any level

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.

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Yeah , this one

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just starts off . Well

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, let's come , let's just get

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into it . Yeah , get into it .

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Kylie was made in 2011

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at Starz . Nicholas Cage , amber

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Heard , and then that one guy who ? William

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, what is it ? Fitchner , or whatever

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, and Billy Burke . They're all in this movie

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And they , yeah

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, it's . You want to explain what it's

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about ?

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The Nick

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Cage's character , Milton , dies

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horrifically and

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finds out that

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his granddaughter

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is going to be

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sacrificed by a satanic

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cult . So he breaks

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out of hell with

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the sole purpose to save

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his granddaughter .

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Yeah , and that's basically

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that movie . That's the movie .

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That's the movie And he

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has . It starts off

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. We get like a

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opening credit scene of

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just what looks like maybe

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used for Constantine

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later down the line , but just it shows

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. It opens up , but the fire

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and brimstone , a car just driving

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out , and then we're

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greeted with some like religious

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tech that have no

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context .

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No , meaning , it was

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just there , quite honestly .

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The reference may be something very

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important that

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they don't pick up on there in the film

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. It's just there to tell you that this

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is happening and this

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serves as a religious purpose

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. For all we know

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, it could have

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been like some burning

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. It could have been Burning Man . For all we know , we

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don't even know it's hell . So , yeah

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, so they just it almost

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looks like they . It's

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like a piece of a Bible

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sermon , but

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they don't reference it again , so

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it's not that important

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. But yeah , that's what we open up with

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. And then we transition over to a

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car chase . How does

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this car chase happen ? No context

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whatsoever . We transition from

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a car driving what from

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hell ? to a

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car chase . That's happening

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. Nick Cage is in the car

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chasing this car .

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This other car , this other car , yeah , the

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other car has some attacks . We don't know

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Racing down the street .

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Yep , we don't know why they're being chased

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.

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They're like attacking each other or

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trying to attack each other anyway .

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Yeah , he's just full of

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hatred and anger

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at this point .

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But the old . He's driving angry , as the title

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suggests .

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As the title suggests , we only get maybe

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some context as

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once he catches up to them

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. Now , mind you , he

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doesn't just pull up and

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politely ask them for their , he

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uses as much force

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, he is smashing

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their car to

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get them out . And then he's asking them

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about the details of the

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baby and where to find the baby

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.

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Yeah , and he's shooting people up

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just everywhere .

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He's not giving them a chance to respond . He

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takes a shotgun . He shoots a guy

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clearly in his leg

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, like at this point , this guy

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, he's , literally He will bleed out

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. This guy , another

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guy , he doesn't get a response from him , he moves

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onto the next guy And , mind you , there's three people

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in this vehicle , so he's just working

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down to each person until he gets an

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answer . The next person he asks

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them the same question . He doesn't ask respond

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quick enough , so he shoots

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his hand or his arm

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off And we all

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know that that guy's dying at

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that point . And then

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he gets to the third person . The third

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person he tells them what he wants to know

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. But a

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kid has already decided he's

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killing all these people , regardless

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of what he gets the answer .

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I don't think he kills the third one , though , because he

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keeps him alive to have

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him make sure that he notifies that

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he's coming to get his daughter .

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Yeah , but like the , as

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he used his car to smash

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him , gasoline

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was like .

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Yeah , that's true . We don't see the third person die

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. Exactly , there is an explosion

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, so it would make sense that

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he dies , and then it cuts to where Amber

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heard is , or whatever working

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.

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We get like a resemblance of the crow

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type scene where he puts

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gasoline and he burns it like

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a walk away montage . So

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he , as he's walking away , he

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either he shoots

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or he throws a cigar and

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it catches the gasoline

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on fire , goes out to the car . I'm

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assuming he could have just taken their car

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.

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He didn't want to take their car . He wanted to

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hurt them and kill them .

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And he's telling everyone no .

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He's a mad mad man .

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Tell everyone I'm coming . I'm like this

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guy's not going to make it quickly , So he's

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going to die .

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He's going to die , but they're going to know

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Yeah .

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It's a movie . Yeah

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, so that the death count

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already begins with those

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people just shut up , just getting axed

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right away . We don't even know if the message

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gets out to them . It's just

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assume that they're dead . They're done so

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.

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They're done . So Yeah , yeah

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, i would say I would agree the same . Did

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you have any favorite scenes from the movie

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so far ?

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or from the movie that we watched . There's

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so many . I think every

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scene with Nick Cage

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was a favorite scene , really .

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Yes , he left some definitely

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some one liners up in there . Some

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wild shit . There's that one part where he's

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having sex with the waitress

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but still killing people While

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he's still having sex with her . It's freaking

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wild . So bad shit , so absurd

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, doesn't make any sense .

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That happens in my favorite scene Is that oh

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, he says I never . So I

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would be my favorite scene . One of my favorites is

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that he tells the waitress

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It's just prelude that

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he never disrobes . So he's

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fully clothed Like he's

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about to like no , ditch her at any moment

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. And he has a cigar , he's

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smoking , he has a shades on cigar and

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whiskey and he has a gun

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. Who's the whole point ? He's killing

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people left and right

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and she is just like having

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major Giant orgasm

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faces going on the entire

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time , the entire time and Nick pages

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just .

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To the very end when she's that all of a sudden

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she shook , cuz like 15 people

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are dead . But he was killing

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him the whole time . He was sleeping with her , so I

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don't know why , She

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wasn't aware beforehand . It

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was straight face the entire

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time He was taking off his sunglasses .

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Yeah .

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I guess that's what happens when you go to hell . You're

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on move to buh-bye . Hey , life symbol

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pleasures .

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I guess so , and So

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that was one of my favorite . One of my favorite

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scenes is just classic Nick

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cage . Just , i'm just gonna go Zero

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to 60 with this and

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just be myself . I Think

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my other favorite scene was when

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he's in in the diner

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where we're introduced to Amber heard

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and we are also Introduced to

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the waitress he later sleeps with . He's

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just minding his own business and

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He's I want coffee

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black . He's not even doing

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anything , he just Apparently

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, just because he's

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broke out of hell .

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He just Sexual

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tension and energy , energy

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that women cannot resist . Yes

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, because of blonde ish haired

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Nicholas cage , Yeah

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because all black the

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.

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He didn't even Act

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as though he was flirting or that he's I just want

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coffee and black

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with sugar . And those ladies you're

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gonna ask me when I'm off . And he's

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a no , and obviously

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like she didn't get the hint and And

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why

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would she ? she was coming on very strong and

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he wasn't that having it , but

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it was just weird because like She

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couldn't read the signs and he was like

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, and he like mad handled her the kester

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and then still told her I want my sugar

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, want my coffee , black with sugar

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.

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Yeah , he could , like just shoved his whole

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tongue in her mouth . I was like , oh

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, this is the kind of movie that we're watching today

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. This is completely . It's Nicholas K

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cage , unhinged , but like he

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knew how he needed to be unhinged So

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he just went with it . That's the thing . If

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you're gonna be in a really Terrible

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movie or a movie that makes no sense

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, just go all out because like

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you're already there . It's like Moira Rose

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and the what is it ? the ? show

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the crowing or yeah where

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she has to go . She goes all out and

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then it gets popular . You got to do that . You

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just got to go for it , because otherwise it's

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just gonna be really terrible and no

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one's gonna remember it as a good time .

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Yeah .

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I feel he definitely went all in

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. He really did .

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I feel like when you're casting Nick cage

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for a character , you

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know what you're getting and what

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you're gonna ask of him to do , and

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then you just gotta let him play , like

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, yeah , for these roles , i feel

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like that's exactly what this was , like

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you you're getting and

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for this role , that's what

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you want him to do .

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Yeah , that's exactly what you want him to do . I

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would say that I think one of my favorite

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scenes is There

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was a lot of fighting in this movie , but

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I really enjoyed when he

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went to fight the leader of the cult

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, so basically His

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daughter . As you find out after

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he died , his daughter was

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like involved with a cult leader

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who Convinced her to do a

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bunch of crazy things . They're like supposed

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to be Satan worshippers or anything like that and

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then they I think she leaves

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him and she attacks the cult leader and he

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, they and eventually find her and kill her

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and take the baby . Yeah , and take the baby

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and that's his granddaughter who he's trying

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to protect , and the cult leader has him . So

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he's chasing him and while

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he's chasing him , and the cult

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is Chasing Milton

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, which is Nicholas Cage , are fighting

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him back . He's also being chased by

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some demon from hell who's trying

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to get him back into hell , who they

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don't really provide context on , but he

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like flips a coin anytime He's about

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to do anything and I enjoyed

12:27

when he when he killed Amber

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Hertz ex-boyfriend . Yeah

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, that's right , yeah , but I

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actually one of my favorite scenes was when they were

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he was . They

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were around the what is it ? He was around the cult

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and they're trying to sacrifice the baby

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as make a sacrifice to see

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and the demon

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guy I Don't remember what his

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name was they count in the accountant

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out the accountant . He tells

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them that Satan

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actually hates it when people

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sacrifice innocence in his name

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, because the innocence just

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go to heaven . So it's like it

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really doesn't do anything , like he hates

13:08

when people do that and I thought that was really funny , so

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I enjoyed that . I also enjoyed when Nicholas

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Cage comes to have his final

13:14

showdown with that guy , with

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a cult leader , and it's

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just a bunch of chaos and violence and

13:21

Notorious one-liners

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from Cage . That was pretty funny .

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Another one of my favorite scenes is

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actually with the demon

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of the accountant when

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he finds

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out That

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. So this is another

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scene where after there's a car chase

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There's a key , finds out he hoped

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Nicholas Milton

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vade the cops But

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as he immersed he

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can like sense the

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marking of someone like sins . So

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, or when they're about to die , go to hell .

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Yeah , that's right .

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So anytime he's interacts with someone , he's

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like oh , i'll see you soon , i'll see you in three

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days , i'll see you in six months . If

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you were like flipping out by that , what do you mean by that

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? And so he's saying that You're

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gonna die , you're not innocent , you're gonna die

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, and so it was very trippy

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when he's doing that . But

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he was having this non-shallot conversation

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with with one someone

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who was like a cult leader or a cult

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member , and They're

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like oh yeah , we are , were

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cultists were worshiping and saying in

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, we're doing this all for him and

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The demon that

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counting goes . We've

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. My boss

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has never asked a notice

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or memo . I'm informing

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us that we ever wanted you guys to do this . Yeah

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which is funny because

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you know That

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the it shows you like the human

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wanting to do all this

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print of things like dark magic

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and saying that they're doing this for

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The devil . And

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here's this demon . Like We

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can do this stuff on our own , but we've never

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been told .

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Yeah , that we needed your guys as assistants

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and he basically like alludes to

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them that Satan

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doesn't even care , he's you're not

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on his radar .

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Yeah , like they're doing this

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and it's Doesn't

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really change anything .

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Yeah , i think like the kind of point

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from that was that That

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the accountant seemed to know

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that Either

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way people were going to be bad

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or be good . There was no , there was

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nothing that would sway them , Like there

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wouldn't be . You

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couldn't be a person who's like sacrificing

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an innocent to get to hell and

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not be a bad person , or you would just

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be , you would just be good . So for him

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, he just sees no , he

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saw no reason for people

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to try to do things And

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the name of Satan or for Satan to sway anyone

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. Cause they're already gonna make those choices anyway

16:07

.

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Yeah , and he found it very interesting

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. He's like what would drive someone who was

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already in hell to escape , and

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why was this cult so

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interested in this one person ? And then , when he

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finally he goes , why

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are they going so hard for this person

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? I need to bring this person out , bring him

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back , cause he's supposed to . So

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I guess it's like there's this cosmic

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law that if a soul were

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to escape there , someone

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is sent to bring that soul back

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. That's supposed to be , that belongs there

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. The accountant is sent

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to bring Milton back , as he

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escaped . They want to know how he

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escaped , and so

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his job is to make

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sure that he brings them back , and

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thus with minimal

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casualties as possible

16:57

, if he can . But he's a demon

16:59

, so things are gonna happen .

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Things are gonna happen . He's supposed to bring him back And

17:04

he's got that weapon that apparently he

17:06

picked up from hell . well , did

17:08

they call it the God killer ?

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The God killer .

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So it's essentially It could kill like a demon

17:12

or an angel or whatever .

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Yeah , it's a kill the demon or an angel . It's like

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an artifact , based on wherever

17:18

it was created . It was either hidden

17:20

in hell , so it's essentially

17:23

it could wipe out

17:25

your entire existence . So you don't

17:27

exist on either heaven or

17:29

hell . So if you were to die , you would not

17:31

exist on either plan . You would be

17:33

stuck in limbo .

17:36

Yeah , essentially And that's the only

17:38

thing that like shocks the accountant

17:40

, i would say , because I don't think he expected that

17:42

. But I actually enjoyed

17:44

his relationship with

17:46

Nick Cage , with Milton , because

17:48

at the end he allows

17:51

Milton to give him a farewell to Amber

17:53

Heard but also brings

17:55

him back to hell in a

17:57

stylish car And they're

18:00

joking around with each other Like he

18:02

. When Nicholas

18:04

Cage , milton says that he's if

18:06

he is stuck in the same hole again , he's

18:08

gonna escape again , and then the accountant

18:11

is like very much look forward to that day . So

18:13

it's like it was fun for him . I enjoyed

18:15

it . It seemed like it was a good time

18:18

And while he didn't necessarily 100%

18:21

, he didn't really interfere too much

18:23

because that's not his

18:25

job . There was that moment

18:27

where he did distract the cult leader

18:30

from whooping

18:33

Nicholas Cage's butt Yeah

18:35

, it's He like coughs and it draws that guy's

18:37

attention And then that gives Nick Cage

18:40

enough time to get the God killer and kill

18:42

that man .

18:42

What's what in Constantine

18:44

, where there's

18:46

that line where there

18:49

can't be two hells ?

18:51

Yeah .

18:52

One hell , two hells is one

18:54

hell too many . So this guy wants to bring

18:56

hell on earth . There's already

18:58

a hell and you

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just wanna bring it Like there can't be . There's already

19:02

a king in one dimension . So in

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essence , he was

19:08

doing yeah , he was tasked

19:10

to bring it . But he's like also , when he found out that's

19:13

what they were doing , he's like maybe I

19:15

should also interrupt this , because this

19:17

is not only gonna be bad

19:20

for us , but it's also

19:22

going to be bad for the balance

19:24

of what we have going on here

19:27

. But when he found out that this

19:29

is the reason why he's doing this stuff , he goes oh

19:32

, i'm just gonna take a backseat

19:34

and let this ride out .

19:35

Yeah , I guess too , it

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depends on how you like . They don't provide

19:39

this context , but I guess it depends on how

19:42

you look at it , whether

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or not you view

19:47

like Satan and God in

19:51

a competition , with trying to see who's

19:53

good and who's ultimately evil

19:56

. So if that's the case , then

19:58

there would be no reason to bring hell to earth because they're

20:00

not . Then they're

20:02

not actually like winning any souls , I guess , and

20:04

some of the iterations , at

20:07

least growing up religious part of the things we've seen

20:09

is like that

20:12

he wants to win more souls and

20:14

get them to help . He wants that . He

20:17

wants to prove to God that people are , that people are

20:20

sinners .

20:20

Yeah , so there wasn't really much context

20:23

in this morsel . It was like sublime

20:25

in it . So for the most

20:27

part .

20:31

Yeah , so there was actually . I just forgot what

20:33

that last scene was that I was interested in . I don't

20:35

remember . I was going to say

20:37

it was one of my favorite scenes . It came to me while you

20:39

were talking and then I

20:41

didn't remember . I couldn't remember Not the God

20:43

killer , i think

20:46

it had to do with the accountant . but

20:48

yeah , i don't remember . It'll

20:50

come back to me .

20:53

One of the weakest moments would

20:55

probably say . I

20:58

think just storyline .

21:00

Oh yeah , obviously there was the

21:02

fucking excuse me , the music

21:05

just did not , it was

21:07

just it's . I'm not

21:09

saying that people need to have all the

21:11

context in the world , but sometimes

21:14

it pays to know what

21:16

you're investing in , and there was

21:18

just like no point where it was

21:20

really you know what was going on , which is both

21:22

good sometimes , but also bad . It

21:25

had its pros and it had its cons .

21:27

I think the weakest moment was that Milton

21:30

Milton , nick Cage's character , not

21:33

only displace Amber

21:35

Herb's character , but then

21:37

, as he takes her on this wild

21:39

ride , also makes her become

21:42

a single parent . Yeah

21:44

, at the end .

21:45

She had them taking on . She and he's like chose

21:48

you . He didn't

21:50

choose her , like he just . There's

21:52

no , no reasoning . She just

21:54

was there and he

21:56

ended up . It was convenient

21:58

for them to link up together . It had nothing to do

22:00

with like him selecting her , but

22:03

she's way too emotionally

22:05

invested in him and

22:07

this baby Like I get wanting

22:09

to mess people up for a good time , i guess

22:11

in the movie world where you're like

22:13

, let's go fight these people

22:16

who are terrible , who are trying to kill

22:18

an infant . But she

22:20

, the investment that she feels I

22:22

was like dang she even takes on

22:25

being a single mom of his granddaughter

22:27

.

22:27

Yeah , that was like the weakest

22:29

moment , like they built her up all

22:33

the way through and then at the moment , he's like I'm dying

22:35

here . Here's parenthood

22:38

, good luck .

22:39

Yeah , good luck , I'm not going to be Godspeed .

22:41

Yeah , godspeed , i'm not going to be here . Yeah , i'll

22:44

take this responsibility because the

22:46

sexual tension between us was so

22:48

great and I feel

22:50

like you just gave me a kid

22:52

and that was . I was like that

22:55

. that's the happy ending .

22:58

Apparently it . I guess that's supposed to

23:00

be like the happy ending , because technically

23:03

she's grown

23:06

and she doesn't have to depend

23:08

on , i guess , her

23:10

ex or I don't know . All

23:12

I know is that it's they were trying to

23:14

sell us on this , that weird sexual

23:17

tension investment

23:20

relationship . But I

23:22

at the beginning I legit thought that was his daughter

23:24

, because there's that much age between

23:27

them And I didn't feel any sexual tension

23:29

between them . I just felt like he's a demon

23:31

from hell , or not demon . He's coming from hell

23:33

. He only wants revenge . She's

23:35

one track mine . I don't know why she

23:37

joined up to help him . I don't know why she got

23:40

invested . I don't know why she decided

23:42

to take care of the kid . But you know what ? All

23:44

those things happened ?

23:46

And another weakest moment was

23:49

they didn't really explain

23:51

Milton's capabilities

23:54

, because around

23:57

the third , the fourth

23:59

act we eventually

24:02

find out that Milton

24:04

is supernatural , that he can't die

24:07

. But

24:09

prior to that we

24:11

find he , we learned like , oh yeah , he can

24:13

die . Or like , wait what ? Oh

24:17

, he gets shot in

24:19

the fucking face and

24:21

it heals , and like , oh yeah

24:24

, he can't die . But

24:26

before he was getting taken body

24:28

shots , gunfire to

24:30

the chest , and we're

24:33

like , oh , he's going to die , yeah

24:35

, and

24:37

we're like , oh shit , maybe he's human . And

24:40

then , no , later on

24:42

, he same thing in a gunfight

24:44

he's taking , he ends up getting shot

24:46

in the head , through the eye

24:48

, off the back of his skull , dead

24:52

, but heals and he's perfectly

24:54

fine .

24:54

Yeah .

24:56

So it was a big confusion

24:59

going on there .

25:01

Okay , Yeah , i guess that would be

25:03

. That is definitely one of the weak areas too

25:06

, because it doesn't necessarily make sense

25:08

not to be looking into

25:10

it too deeply . But he escapes

25:12

from hell Okay , sure , whatever . He takes

25:14

the God killer Okay , sure , whatever . But

25:18

either if he escapes , he's either going to

25:20

be obviously like he's

25:23

lost his physical body , so either

25:25

he's supposed to be a soul or like just

25:27

a spirit , or he's supposed to be a person

25:30

, or he's supposed to be like

25:32

a person with supernatural powers

25:34

, and it's unclear

25:36

until the end that he's got supernatural powers but

25:38

also not really supernatural powers , because the

25:41

only thing is that he can't die . So

25:43

it doesn't make sense .

25:44

Yeah .

25:45

He still has this physical body , so

25:48

it doesn't make sense

25:50

why he can't die . but

25:52

he's got no powers , because the

25:54

accountant does have powers .

25:56

Yeah , and that was like for me

25:58

, another weak area in the movie

26:01

. The

26:03

action was great , just

26:05

parts of progression . the story

26:07

of explaining stuff would have

26:09

been great , just like . that was

26:11

just very inconsistent . It was

26:13

confusing to follow . Does

26:15

he have supernatural abilities ? He

26:18

was like the average . he was like

26:20

the discount version of the crow

26:22

, if you think about it .

26:24

I want to say cut it like he was trying to be ghost writer

26:26

, but in Drive Angry . That's

26:29

what it felt like .

26:31

He was a discount version of a later

26:34

character known as ghost writer .

26:35

Yeah , it was giving me those

26:37

vibes hardcore for a while there

26:40

And I was just like huh , this is odd

26:43

, i would say . For me , probably the biggest

26:45

, the weakest area

26:48

in the movie was

26:50

that it was they clearly filmed

26:53

it with the intention of it being 3D And

26:57

so , like I maybe

26:59

I'm old , maybe I'm just I'm

27:01

not of the Gen Z , maybe it's because I

27:03

have worn glasses in my own life and I hate putting

27:05

glasses over my glasses but

27:08

I can't stand

27:10

when it's very clearly meant to be 3D

27:13

and stuff is like being thrown

27:15

at the camera so

27:17

that if you weren't at theaters you would get quote

27:19

unquote scared or feel like you're

27:22

involved in the action Just seemed

27:24

so unnecessary And , especially 12

27:26

years ago , it was just so obvious

27:28

, like visually , what

27:30

was happening . And it took away from

27:33

it . It's like when you're watching the

27:35

Hobbit CGI

27:37

and you're thinking , wow , i

27:39

can tell you're fake . but when you're watching

27:41

the Lord of the Rings because he

27:43

used prosthetics and a lot

27:45

more makeup and actual physical

27:48

bodies the only real

27:51

CGI came around certain things

27:53

You're like , oh , it looks real

27:55

, it allows you to be more invested in

27:57

it . but come around and it's all

27:59

this CGI happening And you're like

28:01

, wait a second , no , this

28:04

is taking me out . this is taking me out of it . Like

28:07

by the fifth time a tiger was flying

28:09

by the screen . I was just like , okay .

28:11

I cannot cash that at all until like

28:13

when they did the God killer

28:16

thing for- .

28:17

Yeah , the God killer is when it was most prominent .

28:19

Yeah , it was most prominent . I just thought like , oh

28:21

yeah , it's just the natural explosions

28:23

, but yeah

28:26

, the God killer death

28:28

scene of when it actually

28:30

hit , that was literally

28:32

you could clearly see . oh , this is supposed

28:34

to be man 3D . I'm like , but

28:37

it doesn't stay anywhere

28:40

in the movie or the sub like

28:42

it's supposed to be 3D . So

28:44

it was also very confusing .

28:46

That part was yeah , that was confusing . But

28:48

I will say too , when

28:50

he dies at the end , the cult

28:52

leader and he gets like blown up by

28:54

the God killer , his , the top

28:57

of his head just comes clean off

28:59

, without the brain inside it or anything , so

29:01

that Nicholas Cage can drink out of it . And

29:04

you know what ? I respect that

29:06

, but I also was like there's no

29:08

brain matter in there at all . This is

29:10

not realistic . I took anatomy

29:12

class . I know that's not possible

29:14

, but it's a weird thing to be caught

29:17

up on . Oh , you know what else I remembered

29:19

? one of my favorite parts is the fact that

29:21

anytime the

29:23

accountant did anything crazy

29:25

and

29:27

law enforcement would try to stop

29:30

him or they would question him , he would

29:32

just show them a badge that

29:34

he was with the FBI and they

29:36

would be like , oh okay , but

29:38

it would be the craziest things Like he

29:41

took a car or a truck that

29:43

was carrying , i'm assuming , like gasoline

29:45

or or

29:48

nitro or some type of fluid and

29:50

a flammable fluid and

29:52

use that to

29:55

basically attack a

29:57

bunch of the cops there to

29:59

break them off so that Nicholas Cage and Amber

30:01

Heard could go forward to go find the

30:03

cult leader . And when they're questioning

30:05

him he's just like I'm FBI And

30:09

they're like oh okay . Which I thought was so funny

30:11

, Because I guess that's a real life , whenever usually

30:14

someone of a high like

30:17

with the plur we're trained not to question the police and

30:19

the higher up they go , the more

30:21

we're trained not to question them . So the fact that he

30:23

wasn't even concerned about his life , he was just like

30:25

I'll just show him this badge and they'll all concede

30:28

. And then they did . I just thought it was really

30:30

funny .

30:31

Yeah , he didn't

30:33

come with a great line because I'm FBI

30:35

, i'm FBI , yeah , i'm FBI .

30:38

I will say it is interesting that he chose to kill

30:40

Amber Heard's ex-boyfriend

30:43

, though , rather than the other people Like

30:46

. He chose to involve the police officers

30:48

in searching for Milton

30:50

, but and he left

30:52

other people alive at different times in the movie

30:54

, but he did not choose to leave Amber Heard's

30:56

boyfriend , ex-boyfriend alive . He chose

30:59

to kill him , which was honestly not .

31:01

It was not a bad thing Like this guy's like dude , i think he

31:03

was already sitting and he was already gonna die

31:05

anyways .

31:06

Yeah , yeah , probably . So what would

31:08

you say were your final thoughts

31:10

and rating on the movie ?

31:13

I think this movie

31:15

was one giant dumpster

31:17

fire , like it was like It's like

31:20

Gif of Elmo and there's just a firebomb .

31:21

Yeah , like the Gif , like everything's gonna be fine because

31:24

it's like a Frankenstein type of film .

31:30

I feel like they the director was trying

31:32

to do too much in a film . You

31:36

have a star like Nick Cage , you give them

31:38

all this direction . Nick

31:40

Cage solely was holding

31:42

this film . Yeah , i would agree

31:44

with that . He was probably

31:47

like the best part , just because he was so out

31:49

there .

31:50

He really just he's overacting . He just

31:53

really bought into it and sold it . They were like

31:55

, okay , you know what , I'm here with you

31:57

on this journey , But also what the heck

31:59

is happening Like

32:02

throughout this movie . what is going

32:04

on ?

32:08

I feel like this movie is pretty much . even

32:12

though it is a dumpster fire , it's

32:14

a no-brainer . You don't have to think , It's

32:17

just action . You get what you need from

32:19

it just

32:21

mindless violence from beginning

32:24

to end , And I would give it

32:26

a rating of five , Five stars . I would

32:28

probably . Is this five out of 10 ? Five out

32:30

of 10 , yeah , Yeah .

32:31

I would agree . I

32:33

think , that I would give it five

32:35

out of 10 . A large portion

32:38

due to Nicholas Cage's portrayal

32:40

and how silly that was

32:42

. But

32:45

then also the lower score because of wow

32:47

, i lost my train of thought . A

32:50

lower score , yeah , it's definitely not a movie

32:52

I probably would

32:56

recommend to people , unless they were like I

32:59

want to watch something . Well

33:01

, completely hung over , out of my mind and not paying attention . Oh

33:04

, i'd give him five stars because he didn't

33:07

drive his angel . I'd give him five stars

33:09

because he didn't drive as angry , nearly as much

33:11

, as I thought he would . That's the title of the

33:13

movie . I thought we were going to see it

33:15

And we saw it barely

33:17

until the third act , and even then he

33:19

was just angry . He wasn't necessarily driving

33:21

angry . I felt oversold .

33:24

Yeah , that was weird , like he

33:26

did less driving in

33:28

this movie .

33:29

Yeah like , why sell us on that if you're not going

33:31

to drive angry man ?

33:33

True , and he wasn't as angry .

33:36

He was more concentrated , but

33:38

whatever . What can you do ? Anyway , do

33:40

you have your reviews pulled up on the letterbox

33:43

?

33:43

Yeah , so we're going to move on to our next portion

33:46

is where we pick two

33:49

reviews that we'll read

33:51

from users

33:53

who also saw the

33:55

film , who've given it

33:57

a rating and review . Mine

34:01

is going to be from user

34:04

Earl 12456

34:08

, who's given it a four

34:10

star rating , And

34:12

his review is going to be Drive

34:15

Angry is a crazy movie over

34:17

top nonsense

34:19

. Nick Cage Performance

34:22

is good .

34:25

That's yours .

34:26

Yeah , that's mine .

34:27

Okay line is from

34:29

John is afraid . He gave it three

34:32

stars , john . What are you afraid

34:34

of ? Isn't my question . Was it the movie ? Are

34:36

you afraid of the movie ? I swear all afraid

34:38

deep down . For his review he

34:40

wrote I'm 99.9%

34:43

sure that Nicholas Cage and Amber

34:45

Heard didn't even know that they were being filmed

34:47

throughout the entirety of this .

34:51

Which I think is really funny .

34:52

I mean it's something you think about , like they're just acting naturally

34:54

and they're just someone who happens to be catching them on

34:57

camera , like that . that's pretty funny

34:59

.

35:00

My second one's gonna be from user Tiffany

35:03

. Let me be clear

35:05

the one stars for Tom

35:07

Atkins and the half stars

35:10

for Nick Cage just being Nick

35:12

Cage one and a half stars

35:14

.

35:15

Wow , oh , people are harsh

35:17

for this one , Harsher for this one

35:19

than the knowing . I'm surprised

35:21

because I enjoyed this way more than knowing . the knowing felt

35:24

like I lost hours

35:26

of my life and it made me regret

35:28

that I had gone down that journey . My

35:31

second one is from someone named Reed who

35:34

rated it three stars . He

35:36

or she , i'm sorry they wrote

35:39

I can't wait for drive angry two

35:41

, drive angrier , drive angry

35:43

three , drive angriest . and drive

35:46

angry four Fury Road , which

35:49

I think I would say . what about

35:52

driving drive angry five , driving

35:54

super angry . Coulda

35:59

excuse me ?

36:00

I feel like at some point they

36:02

should include Nick Cage in the Fast and Furious

36:05

.

36:05

Listen , that franchise is never gonna end

36:07

. Yeah , you could bring Nicholas Cage in

36:09

there . He'd probably bring some

36:11

of the same energy that they currently have

36:14

in those films .

36:16

They not Nick Cage , they should

36:18

bring Milton's character . Oh , milton's

36:20

character would be hilarious .

36:21

Because I need to be like dang . how is the supernatural

36:24

exist in the Fast 10 universe

36:27

, or Fast and Furious , when it just used

36:29

to be about car racing ? It ain't

36:31

.

36:32

And spies and all that other stuff .

36:34

Yeah , spies . and now it's about

36:36

international espionage

36:39

Like it's crazy .

36:40

It's crazy .

36:41

Nothing . I just hope I evolve one

36:43

day like how Fast and the Furious has evolved

36:46

through the years . I want a journey like

36:48

that , yeah .

36:49

But now getting off topic .

36:51

Yeah , we're getting off topic .

36:53

But that brings this episode

36:55

to a close . So any final

36:57

words .

36:58

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do follow a general format . Sometimes

37:14

our opinions are funny , sometimes we're

37:16

just very confused . But

37:19

yeah , that's all I would say .

37:21

Yeah , I'll just follow up . But yeah , we'll try

37:24

to do our best with the formatting and

37:26

she thinks it's fine . We'll

37:29

continue this journey

37:31

of Nick Cage through

37:34

the multiverse .

37:36

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37:38

I think you decided that it was gonna be next

37:41

, wasn't it ?

37:42

Yes , so you heard it first on

37:45

the podcast .

37:46

Our next , the next

37:48

film is going to be called , it would be called Next

37:51

. Yeah , the irony .

37:52

Yeah , irony . And do you want to

37:54

leave us with your cat face

37:56

? Oh yeah .

37:58

I lost my And I

38:00

lost my wife . Joni

38:02

has his hand , joni has

38:05

his wife . I'm gonna die saying

38:07

that .

38:08

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