It is so ordered. 5 years ago the Supreme Court ended its decision to guarantee equal marital rights to all U.S. citizens with those words. But how much really changed? In a summer where we realize the gains of 50 years ago have fallen short of true equal rights, what should our next steps be? Is it even possible to outlaw bigotry and is there anything the trans rights movement can take away from these decades long legal battles? The Atheist Experience Network’s Johnny makes a return visit, joining Vi and Christy in taking your calls and peering again at the age old question, can you legislate morality?

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► After Bostock, We’re All Textualists Now by Ilya Shapiro
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/after-bostock-were-all-textualists-now)

► How to Understand Your Gender by Alex Iantaffi
(https://smile.amazon.com/How-Understand-Your-Gender-Practical/dp/1785927469)

► Supreme Court Delivers Major Victory To LGBTQ Employees by Nina Totenberg for NPR
(https://www.npr.org/2020/06/15/863498848/supreme-court-delivers-major-victo)

► 5 Years after landmark gay marriage ruling by SCOTUS. lawyer in the case says it’s ‘gone swimmingly well’ by Randy Maniloff for American Bar Association Journal
(https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/5-years-after-landmark-gay-marriage-case-mary-bonauto-says-its-gone-swimmingly-well)

Demigender is a gender identity that involves feeling a partial, but not a full, connection to a particular gender identity or just to the concept of gender. Demigender people often identify as non-binary. -Gender.Wikia.org