For our 50th episode, we invited our friends from Cisco Talos to join us for an authentic, truthful conversation about mental health and burnout.

Amy Henderson, Ashlee Benge, Matt Olney, and Mitch Neff, joined Hazel and Taz to share  some experiences. We start by talking about the work that Talos has been doing in Ukraine and the mental health effects of that work. That also includes that weird, disconnected feeling that can develop when we're doing as much as we can to help, but we also go home to a warm and comfortable bed, i.e not in a war zone.

This takes us to conversations about other global events, and how hard it can be to prioritize self care when everything feels...a lot....

We also share our own practices and techniques that have helped us manage our mental health, and how we can give ourselves permission to be kind to ourselves.

Further resources:

Creating safe spaces in cybersecurity ebook

Ryan K. Louie’s presentation at RSA: The mental health impact of cyberattacks

Black Hat community: A place to engage with Black Hat attendees on topics specific to the InfoSec community, including health and well-being.

Cisco Gateway: A global online community where Cisco customers share their professional and personal challenges and stories.

CALM (Campaign Against Living Miserably):Leading a movement against suicide.