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All right, folks. You may have seen

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it last night. It could have been

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even early afternoon, depending on where you

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are in the United States or around

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the world. But Israel has responded with

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military action against Iran. And we

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confirm at least that there have

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been strikes inside the Islamic Republic of

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Iran. There have been other reports. Those

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have yet to be confirmed about strikes

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on Iranian targets, potentially inside

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Syria as well as Iraq. But

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we know that there have been strikes

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inside Iran. One very

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close to the, maybe

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called, infamous, Nattat's nuclear

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plant. Now this is a plant that you

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may have heard the name before, because

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if you've heard the Iranian nuclear

1:09

deal, the JCPOA, this has

1:11

been the nuclear plant where there's been

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so much focus on whether, even with

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the JCPOA, that

1:18

joint plan of cooperation

1:20

was put in place between the

1:23

United States and the P5-plus-1, so

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the permanent five members of the

1:28

Security Council plus Germany,

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and Iran about monitoring their nuclear

1:33

program. Well, there were always issues about Nattat's.

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And why is that an issue? Well,

1:38

Israel might have hit Nattat's, the

1:40

nuclear base. Iran is saying that

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there's no nuclear issues that they're dealing with right now,

1:46

but they've had to make that statement to

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their citizens, which means this strike

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was very close to Nattat's. You've

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also got a huge military

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base there, an airfield. So it may

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have been a strike. on

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iran airfield we're continuing to get more

2:02

information on today's broadcast we're going to

2:05

bring you a reports from a br-

2:07

a former brigadier general amir avivi he's

2:09

going to be joining us in the

2:12

first half hour of the broadcast jeff

2:14

balaban who oversees our office aclj jerusalem

2:16

is going to join us in this

2:18

broadcast as well and we've got our

2:20

whole team in place to kind of

2:22

walk you through what news has been

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confirmed uh what is yet to be

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confirmed we do know now uh from

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uh secretary of state tony blakey

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he has made remarks this morning

2:33

already he said a few things

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the u.s got some notice before

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this attack occurred it looks like

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this was all done by either drones

2:42

or uh missiles

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or some projectiles it does

2:47

like they were actually manned

2:49

aircraft but there certainly were

2:51

of course uh you know military warheads

2:54

and military aircraft even if unmanned

2:57

flying over what would be

2:59

other countries airspace and so we're still

3:01

again would confirm uh in many of

3:03

those countries the u.s has got bases

3:06

as well and there's activity so

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again a surprise attack because the u.s

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was only given warning and i that could

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have just been minutes

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before this attack occurred it could have

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been a little bit longer so uh the

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u.s do not to shut shoot

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down uh these uh whatever

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israel utilized to get the

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explosive devices there you know these

3:30

unmanned drones are very popular now that's

3:32

what iran used for smaller attacks and

3:34

more targeted attacks as well as uh

3:36

ballistic missiles you don't have to guess

3:39

you know this is a pretty close

3:41

region of the world that being said

3:44

the u.s also has tried to make clear

3:46

and this is interesting that it

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had no role in

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this with iran and with israel

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in this attack on iran now i

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would understand why the u.s maybe publicly

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would Want to make that statement? So what? We. the

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to figure out is a what will

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try to break down over really the

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next that days of the eve of

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will be talk to this week is

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how involved was the United States and

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were with united states be. Over

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the weekend at by but they are

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they gonna be specific? Israel? Has

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4:26

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Set your folks, we're covering. Or. What

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is Israel's response to that?

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On presses attacked by Iran?

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To. The first time, you know if there's been a

5:21

hell of a Cold War? Even abuses

5:24

that asshole Ios estimations The Vid

5:26

Certainly the use of proxies by

5:28

Iran, Iran and one says has

5:30

been at war with Israel or

5:32

for decades If you consider the

5:34

fact that their proxies like Hezbollah

5:36

or their proxies like of course

5:38

Hamas and the October Seventh attacks

5:40

by have the it is but

5:42

earlier that as well. But what

5:44

has become a press is it

5:46

is the attacks it came out

5:48

of Iran. Into Israel.

5:51

As it Israel's response in that

5:53

response river the attacked by rods

5:56

are was primarily about as they

5:58

were turbo thousand roads. The ballistic

6:00

missiles at a lot of countries the

6:02

Middle East. he had Jordan's yet Egypt

6:04

as the U S. of course in

6:06

our interest there the you A eats

6:09

I came together. In taking

6:11

down a lot of that aircraft along

6:13

with the defense systems that Israel has

6:15

but Israel was a discord of sit

6:17

there and say wealth easy just shoot

6:20

missiles and a a ballistic missiles and

6:22

roads at us to just because we

6:24

shoot it down does it be We're

6:26

not going to fire back on you.

6:29

So this is breaking new ground is

6:31

the Middle East as Israel for the

6:33

first time as as that to be

6:35

up to from that they have fired

6:37

into Iraq targeting or what appears to

6:40

be. It's either Iranian military

6:42

base or their nuclear a major nuclear

6:44

facilities which is right next to that's

6:46

our military bases while ago just foul

6:48

balls from a who directs our office

6:50

a sealed to Jerusalem for steps were

6:52

just started to get details of from

6:55

this is it happened overnight I in

6:57

the Middle East and people were I

6:59

as he was the of the evening

7:01

here is as the United States about

7:03

this a response from Israel but what

7:05

we do though thou from the United

7:07

States is that Israel had to go

7:10

it alone. Here maybe know it got

7:12

their way though allies actually got physically

7:14

of their way or but they did that

7:16

at least the U S E O's cover.

7:18

yeah that's the that stay the with Israel

7:21

that I'd say we support these acts as

7:23

other sega actually a year we had as

7:25

some but sub dogs have the right before

7:27

as as they hope that it's it's will

7:30

go down. As

7:32

Jordan's the way this is proceeding is

7:34

as meeting and so it's over groundbreaking.

7:36

So as you point out in terms

7:38

of the geopolitics is is. On

7:41

Saturday right now launched from its

7:43

own territory into Israel territory and

7:45

course on. note that course Iran

7:47

seem to nothing kid but seem

7:50

to be launching against. Population

7:52

areas. His response and it in his wasn't

7:54

even taking official credit for this but the

7:57

roads assuming it's Israel. Israel. response

7:59

has been directed at very

8:01

strategic tactical military targets, again,

8:04

showing the difference between the two nations. One

8:06

wants genocide and one is just trying to

8:08

live and defend itself and as

8:10

it defends itself, defends the West. That's

8:12

the first part. The second, on the ground

8:14

in Jerusalem, it's gorgeous in Israel, it's very

8:16

interesting. The Home Front

8:18

Command is a very important component of daily

8:20

life in Israel. Obviously since October 7th, it's

8:23

become to the fore. And so there's

8:25

billboards and ads, constantly information about what

8:27

Home Front Command is telling Israelis to

8:30

do. The Home

8:32

Front Command basically released guidance that

8:34

Israelis should take shelter, be careful,

8:37

not long ago and basically created a situation where

8:39

life seemed to be normal, again, within

8:41

the context of post-October 7th normal. And

8:44

so all of this, people are saying

8:46

might've been strategically or tactically to not

8:48

alert the other side, not Iran,

8:51

that an attack was so imminent, that maybe

8:53

if it's gonna come later, even

8:55

the Home Front told people to act

8:57

as though it's normal. So this has

8:59

been a fascinating, very, sort

9:02

of sub-rose, a very under the table operation that

9:04

took the world by surprise. Now

9:07

I wanna play what Iran's Minister

9:09

of Foreign Affairs, after Iran launched

9:12

its unprecedented attack on Israel, Iran

9:15

was quick to come out and say, and

9:17

by the way, this is what will happen

9:19

if Israel responds, now we'll actually see, can

9:22

they put their money where their mouth is, they're

9:24

big talkers in Iran, that first strike, again, it

9:27

was very dangerous to do so, but it wasn't

9:30

very effective on Israel, of course any loss

9:32

of life is horrible, but he put up

9:34

a thousand drones and ballistic missiles and they're

9:36

all getting shot down, doesn't look

9:38

great for your military, but we know Iran's

9:41

got plenty more to shoot back, the question

9:43

is, will they? This is what they said

9:45

they would do if Israel took an

9:48

action against Iran inside Iran, that's

9:50

what's key here, this isn't hitting

9:53

Hezbollah in Lebanon, this is not

9:55

hitting Hamas in Gaza, take a

9:57

listen to the Iranian Foreign Minister.

10:00

In case the Israeli regime embarks

10:03

on the

10:14

adventurism again and takes action against the interests

10:16

of Iran, the next response from

10:18

us will be immediate and at a maximum level.

10:21

So I want to go to Will Case who,

10:24

with our team as a senior producer on the secular

10:26

show, will to the studio also. This

10:28

is another Will, you know Will Hayes, this is Will Case who's

10:30

also on our team, so a lot of the people behind

10:33

the scenes and Ali as well have been

10:35

put together this show for us throughout the

10:37

evening so we can get to you today

10:39

with this latest news. Many of us are

10:41

traveling, as you can tell by background, a

10:43

little different today. Will,

10:45

just to kind of explain to people, I know we're going to

10:48

put a map up as well of where

10:50

these attacks were centered, where they

10:52

focused so far, what we know and

10:55

what's been confirmed inside Iran is near

10:57

a nuclear facility that a lot of people have

10:59

heard of called the Todts, which is also very

11:01

close to a major Iranian

11:04

military air base. Yeah, so the

11:06

explosions were reported by Iran actually

11:09

on the ground there near Isfahan, which is

11:11

the central part of Iran. And

11:14

the way that it's being reported by them obviously

11:16

is a little bit different than the media, the

11:18

western media, right? But there

11:22

doesn't appear to be any injuries

11:24

or casualties, which is very interesting

11:26

in how this whole thing is

11:29

escalating, right? Because like you guys

11:31

pointed out earlier, the unprecedented attacks

11:33

last weekend on Saturday that Iran

11:35

launched 300 plus, up to maybe

11:37

a thousand missiles or drones over

11:40

Israel were over the populated areas. So

11:43

this is a very targeted and very

11:45

direct attack in Iran from Israel for

11:47

the first time. And there are reports

11:49

that are unconfirmed all over that there

11:51

were some in northern Iran and by

11:54

the nuclear facilities, which are kind of

11:56

scattered. I believe there's

11:58

seven total areas. And so

12:00

there were a lot of reports about up

12:02

to seven different areas within Iran where the

12:04

nuclear or military facilities are located. But

12:07

right now, we know that the only area

12:09

that has been confirmed that has taken damage,

12:11

if you will, is Isfahan

12:13

there in central Iran, which is a

12:15

key area of their military

12:17

operations. Yeah, I mean, Jeff,

12:19

listen, I didn't expect Israel

12:22

to sit back. We saw right

12:24

away from Benjamin Netanyahu, he announced

12:26

that one action that

12:29

he needed to see from the world was

12:31

sanctioned. Now, the U.S. government is working through

12:33

that now to some extent in the House

12:35

of Representatives and the votes this weekend, even

12:37

on Israeli aid. I think this will change

12:40

some of the discussions that are happening in

12:43

Washington, D.C. I mean, literally, that we were

12:45

having on the broadcast yesterday, that the world

12:47

has changed yet again. How

12:49

much do you think this changes the entire region? I mean,

12:52

Iran has lost, doesn't have a ton

12:54

of friends in that region, though they

12:56

have certainly been playing differently since kind

12:58

of the end of the Trump administration

13:00

and how the Abraham Accords have fallen

13:02

apart. I mean, to me, this is

13:05

just another example of

13:07

the disastrous foreign policy of the

13:09

Biden administration. I

13:11

mean, the Iran felt emboldened,

13:14

Jeff, to strike Israel directly.

13:16

And now Israel has had to respond directly.

13:19

This is how you get to another world war. At

13:22

least- That's exactly right.

13:24

That's exactly right, Jordan. And in the book,

13:26

Israel is extremely sensitive to Americans, to whoever

13:28

sits in the White House. Israel

13:31

knows that America has always been its strongest

13:33

ally. But this president

13:35

and this administration is not as strong an

13:37

ally as Obama was not as strong an

13:40

ally. And the fact is, Obama

13:42

first broke ground with creating daylight between Israel

13:44

policy and American policy, and in fact, not

13:46

advising Israel of what it was going to

13:48

do in the region, which threatened

13:50

Israel directly. And you see now the aftermath

13:53

of Israel shooting down that

13:55

ridiculous, I mean, massive, unprecedented

13:57

launches from Iran into Israel.

14:00

own territory was to

14:02

take the win as the president said. What does that

14:04

mean take the win? It's not a

14:06

win for Israel to allow Iran or any

14:08

country to launch a barrage of missiles into

14:11

its into its airspace and try to wipe

14:13

out its population. That is not a win.

14:15

Israel had no choice but to react and

14:18

as you point out the vast

14:20

difference, I mean the night and day difference between

14:22

what we're seeing now and what we saw under

14:24

the previous administration under President Trump which led to

14:27

massive breakout of peace, normalization,

14:30

true friendships, I mean actually warm peace

14:32

between Israel and a number of Arab

14:34

states that are also now as a

14:37

result much stronger American allies has all

14:39

been destroyed by this notion

14:42

of appeasement to Iran by this administration and

14:44

Israel knows it has to survive so it's

14:46

all striking back. We're gonna

14:48

be joined in the next segment of the

14:50

broadcast by General Amir Avivian former Brigadier General

14:53

in the IDF to break this down for

14:55

us from the military angle and again I

14:57

mean we will now see how the world

14:59

begins to respond as I told you the

15:01

United States response from our Secretary of State

15:03

has been so far we got some warning

15:05

of the attack we did not assist

15:08

in the attack or plan in the attack

15:10

of course they didn't try to stop it

15:12

or shoot down anything that was fired out

15:14

of Israel and neither did the other countries

15:17

that those arrow objects that the

15:19

people what was fired that may have been

15:21

more difficult or nearly impossible with that with

15:23

no notice but we will again we're gonna

15:25

get more information here and Willie Rod actually

15:29

strike back me this going to

15:31

continue or escalate a conflict I

15:33

will continue this discussion but we

15:35

know this during our life and liberty drive

15:37

you know we stand with Israel and

15:39

though again those over a hundred hostages

15:41

still being hold by held by Hamas

15:44

never forget that the IDF soldiers fighting

15:46

in the Gaza Strip against terror we

15:49

need you to stay with Israel now they've had

15:52

to hit back on Iran and the world is

15:54

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15:59

org Hey

16:03

folks, welcome back to Sekul. As you can

16:05

see, we are scattered across the country and

16:07

world right now, and we are

16:09

really grateful to be joined in just a moment

16:12

by General Amir Avivi. He's

16:14

a former retired brigadier general

16:16

in the IDF to talk

16:18

through the strikes Israel

16:20

made against Iran. The question now is, where

16:22

do we go from here? But I want

16:24

to go to Jet Dalabon right now so

16:26

you don't have too many voices to listen

16:29

to because we're scattered around the country. I'm

16:31

traveling today because he

16:33

is going to talk directly to

16:36

Brigadier General, retired, Amir Avivi

16:38

right now. General

16:40

Avivi, overnight news around

16:43

the world that Israel has retaliated

16:45

for Iran's strike against Israel.

16:48

However, as far as I

16:50

know, as of this morning in America and

16:53

this afternoon in Israel, Israel is not

16:55

officially taking responsibility for what happened. Can

16:57

you update us on what the situation

16:59

is, what you know about it,

17:01

what you can share about it? Well,

17:04

Israel indeed didn't take

17:07

responsibility. Israel

17:09

basically has three options. One

17:12

is not to retaliate at all and

17:16

go along with the American

17:19

policy that wants to deal

17:21

with this diplomatically, imposing sanctions,

17:24

maybe snapbacking from the Bay

17:26

JCPOA and concentrating

17:31

on the next step, which is a rapid action,

17:35

was using this

17:37

window of opportunity to attack

17:40

seriously the nuclear installations of

17:42

Iran, but with the

17:44

consequences of a full-scale war in

17:47

the north with Hezbollah and Iran. And

17:49

this is before we reach our goals

17:51

in Gaza. And

17:53

the third option was

17:55

to do a pinpointed operation,

17:58

maybe even without taking a

18:00

responsibility enabling a reality

18:04

where the Iranians

18:06

can really disregard it

18:08

and not continue

18:11

the attacks and escalate the

18:13

situation. And if indeed

18:15

Israel did the attack,

18:17

I think this is the option

18:20

that was chosen on one hand

18:22

in the Iranian regime. So

18:25

how accurately Israel

18:28

can attack them deep in Iran,

18:31

inflicting damage where Israel wants

18:33

to and when it wants to. On

18:36

the other hand, I think both

18:39

sides at the moment don't want

18:41

a full-scale war between

18:43

each other. And

18:45

the Iranians understood that

18:47

probably they did a big mistake

18:49

attacking Israel and waking up the

18:52

whole West, understanding how

18:54

dangerous Iran is and moving

18:57

forward with plans to

18:59

implement sanctions. And

19:03

Israel hasn't changed its overall strategy,

19:05

which is being a defensive in

19:07

Gaza until we destroy Hamas. And

19:10

destroying Hamas means going into

19:13

Rafah. General, let me

19:15

ask you a question. Your

19:17

organization represents that you founded the largest

19:19

group of Israeli military commanders in any

19:21

organization, I think, in the history of

19:24

Israel other than the IDF itself. What's

19:27

your sense in terms of the military

19:30

versus what we're hearing diplomatically around the world

19:32

in terms of what Israel must do, first

19:34

part of the question? And second, there

19:37

seems such a stark contrast between what

19:39

we're seeing now, which is explosive war

19:41

and cataclysm in the Middle East,

19:43

attacks on Israel from Hamas, from

19:46

all kinds of Iranian proxies from

19:48

Iran itself now. And what

19:50

we had just a few years ago, which seemed to be huge

19:53

peace, normalization, stability. What's

19:56

the path forward here? What do we need to see both in terms

19:58

of Israel and through the Middle East? of America's role,

20:00

in your opinion? Well,

20:03

these two are completely

20:05

connected. The

20:07

reason why a moderate

20:10

Sunni countries wanted to

20:13

normalize relations with Israel is the Iranian

20:16

threat. This is exactly why

20:18

they needed an alliance with

20:20

Israel and also enhancing their

20:22

alliance with the U.S. They

20:25

understood that they are

20:27

losing U.S. support. The U.S. is

20:29

not dependent anymore on Middle Eastern

20:31

oil and therefore

20:33

less obligated to be

20:36

involved and defend Sunni

20:38

countries like Saudi Arabia and the U.S.

20:43

They saw it as an opportunity to do

20:45

the connection, to connect the U.S. and Israel

20:47

with them, to

20:49

stand strong against Iran. And this

20:51

now is even more crucial because

20:54

now we're talking not just about

20:56

Iran, we're talking about Russia, that now

20:59

we're dependent on Iranian capabilities and

21:01

has got much closer to Iran.

21:03

We're talking about China that

21:05

has aspirations to enhance

21:08

their involvement in the Middle East and

21:10

they are also supporting the Russian and

21:12

Iranian economies and

21:14

buying huge amounts of oil from

21:16

Iran. So we see this Eastern

21:19

front. Iranians are talking about that. They

21:21

are saying the U.S. has

21:23

lost the leadership in the world. New

21:26

forces are emerging. The East is

21:28

becoming stronger and they are

21:30

referring also to China and

21:32

Russia, which they feel are

21:36

allies of Iran. And

21:39

for that reason, we need both.

21:41

We do need a coalition. We

21:43

need to build an alliance that

21:46

will spread all the way to

21:48

Indonesia, Pakistan, Oman, and

21:51

the Middle East to stand strong

21:53

against Iran and also to try

21:55

and grow more countries. So this

21:57

alliance, meaning Iraq, Lebanon,

22:01

northern countries

22:03

that might allies themselves

22:05

more than the west.

22:11

One final question for you before you have to go, I

22:13

know, which is the idea

22:15

that we will negotiate with Iran,

22:17

that will negotiate their nuclear as

22:19

opposed to standing strong and

22:22

being a deterrent threat. It seems to

22:24

be the different positions taken by Israel's

22:26

allies, most notably the United States of

22:28

America, and that seems to have wrought

22:31

that kind of a change. Speaking

22:34

from a role both as defending the

22:36

people of Israel in the land of Israel, but

22:38

also being on the front line of this global

22:40

jihad, I mean, after all, Iran has repeatedly

22:43

threatened death to America. Iran has

22:45

been in pursuit of and received

22:47

intercontinental ballistic missiles which can reach

22:49

America. What should America's role

22:51

be, in your opinion, in terms

22:53

of defending both Israel, but also, more

22:56

importantly for America, America itself? Iran has

22:59

global aspirations. They want global domination. They

23:01

want to control all the strains. They

23:03

want to control world economy. And

23:06

the only way to deal with them

23:08

is with strength, exposing a credible military

23:10

threat, is demanding

23:13

they dismantle all their

23:15

nuclear capabilities and sites.

23:18

If they don't do that, they

23:20

need to be attacked. There is

23:23

no appeasement with Iran. Iran only

23:25

understands harsh power. And

23:28

this is what is expected from the

23:30

U.S. to lead globally, to

23:32

build a coalition, to stand strong

23:34

against Iran. And this, by the

23:36

way, will balance

23:38

the world also globally. It

23:41

will deter also China from

23:43

attacking Taiwan, will deter Russia

23:45

from further aggression in Europe.

23:49

Without American leadership, the whole globe

23:51

destabilizes. Thank

23:53

you, General Vivi. I don't know if we have any more time,

23:55

but if we, it's just a couple of seconds if you can,

23:58

America immediately calls for a Palestinian. Palestinian state after

24:00

October 7. In

24:03

your opinion, does that make the situation better

24:05

or worse? Is that realistic now or anytime

24:07

in the foreseeable future? Talking about a Palestinian

24:10

state when 1,200 Israelis

24:12

were butchered, where

24:14

we have hostages, where we

24:17

suffered the worst attack since the Holocaust

24:19

is giving a price to terror. The

24:22

Palestinians shouldn't get any price

24:24

for attacking Israelis,

24:27

so decapitating heads for hostages,

24:29

for burning people alive. And

24:33

it's not just talking about two-state

24:35

solution, it's also what kind of

24:37

two-state solution, what the U.S. administration

24:39

is trying to push will

24:42

basically endanger Israel existentially and why

24:44

not go into other

24:46

reality where Israel is

24:48

endangered existentially again. General

24:51

Vibi, thank you so much for joining us and giving us

24:53

this very important update. God bless you and keep you safe.

25:01

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Seculo. Alright

25:21

folks, you may have seen it last

25:23

night. It could have been even early

25:25

afternoon, depending on where you are in

25:27

the United States or around the world,

25:29

but Israel has responded with military action

25:32

against Iran. We confirm at

25:34

least that there have been strikes

25:36

inside the Islamic Republic of Iran.

25:38

There have been other reports. Those

25:41

have yet to be confirmed about strikes on

25:44

Iranian targets potentially inside

25:46

Syria as well as Iraq. But we

25:48

know that there have been strikes

25:51

inside Iran, one very

25:53

close to the,

25:56

maybe called infamous, Natat's

25:58

nuclear plant. a plant

26:00

that you may have heard the name before, because

26:03

if you've heard the Iranian nuclear

26:05

deal, the JCPOA, this has

26:07

been the nuclear plant where there's

26:10

been so much focus on whether even

26:12

with the JCPOA, that

26:14

joint plan of cooperation

26:17

was put in place between the

26:19

United States and the other,

26:21

the P5 plus one, so the permanent

26:23

five members of the Security Council plus

26:26

Germany and Iran

26:29

about monitoring their nuclear program. Well, there

26:31

were always issues about the Natanz, and why is that

26:33

an issue? Well, Israel might have hit

26:36

Natanz, the nuclear base. Iran is saying

26:39

that there's no nuclear

26:41

issues that they're dealing with right now, but they've

26:43

had to make that statement to

26:45

their citizens, which means this strike

26:48

was very close to Natanz. We've

26:50

also got a huge military

26:53

base there, an airfield, so it may

26:55

have been a strike on

26:57

Iran's airfield. We are continuing to get

26:59

more information on today's broadcast. We're going

27:01

to bring you reports from

27:04

former Brigadier General Amir Aviviyi. He's going

27:07

to be joining us in the first

27:09

half hour of the broadcast. Jeff Balaban,

27:11

who oversees our office, ACLJ Jerusalem is

27:13

going to join us in this broadcast

27:15

as well. And we've got

27:18

our whole team in place to kind of

27:20

walk you through what news has been confirmed,

27:22

what is yet to be confirmed. We do

27:24

know now from Secretary

27:26

of State Tony Blinken, he has

27:28

made remarks this morning already. He

27:30

said a few things. The U.S. got

27:33

some notice before this attack

27:35

occurred. It looks like this

27:38

was all done by either drones

27:40

or missiles

27:42

or projectiles. It does like

27:44

there were actually manned aircraft,

27:47

but there certainly were, of

27:49

course, military warheads and

27:52

military aircraft, even if unmanned, flying

27:55

over what would be other

27:57

countries' airspace. And so we're still, again,

27:59

would confirm. In many

28:01

of those countries, the U.S. has got bases

28:03

as well, and there's activity. So

28:06

again, a surprise attack because the U.S.

28:08

was only given warning. That

28:11

could have just been minutes before

28:14

this attack occurred. It could have been a little

28:16

bit longer, so the U.S. knew not

28:18

to shoot down

28:21

these whatever Israel

28:23

utilized to get the

28:25

explosive devices there. These

28:28

unmanned drones are very popular now. That's

28:30

what Iran used for smaller attacks and

28:32

more targeted attacks, as well as ballistic

28:34

missiles. You don't have to...you know,

28:37

this is a pretty close region of the world.

28:39

That being said, the U.S.

28:42

also has tried to make clear, and this

28:44

is interesting, that it had no

28:46

role with Israel in

28:48

this attack on Iran. Now, I would

28:51

understand why the U.S. maybe publicly would

28:53

want to make that statement. So what we have

28:55

to figure out is...and what we'll try

28:57

to break down over really the next days,

29:00

and even we'll be talking to you next week, is

29:03

how involved was the United States, and

29:06

where will the United States be over

29:08

the weekend and by Monday? Remember

29:11

this week, we talked to Chris Mitchell

29:13

from CBN News, as well as the

29:15

former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations

29:17

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29:19

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30:14

Chris Mitchell from CBN News, who is their

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senior Middle East correspondent. Chris,

30:18

you spend your time in Israel and the

30:21

surrounding area. I want to ask you first

30:23

a more of a personal question about

30:26

being there during this

30:28

unprecedented attack on

30:31

October 7th and then this unprecedented

30:33

attack over the weekend by Iran

30:35

shooting both ballistic missiles and drones

30:38

from Iranian territory into Israel. What

30:40

that was like for you, for

30:42

your family, and for your friends?

30:46

Well, it was kind of a surreal experience, Jordan.

30:49

I was having to be up in the Galilee.

30:51

I was planning a day videotaping

30:53

in the Galilee on Sunday. About

30:56

1130 at night, everyone was getting the

30:59

news that Iran had launched drones and

31:02

ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. So I

31:04

left the Galilee and I drove down

31:06

to here in Jerusalem. We had a

31:08

live stream on CBN News that night.

31:11

And it was a surreal experience because you

31:13

felt, because the drones took several

31:16

hours to get in here, everybody

31:18

was anticipating where they would hit, how they

31:20

would hit. We felt like

31:22

it was going to be perhaps a massive

31:26

destruction or death here in

31:28

Israel. So that

31:30

was a bit of a surreal. In fact, I got onto the

31:32

live stream, Jordan, and the host asked

31:35

me, well, where are these drones coming? And

31:38

literally moments later, we heard

31:41

the explosion here in Jerusalem. They

31:43

were shot, this stunning video, I'm sure you've

31:45

seen it over the Temple Mount, many of

31:48

these that looked like fireworks. They

31:50

were all shot down, thankfully, and we

31:52

heard the explosion and then the air it's iron. I

31:55

would say that it's a lot different now in

31:57

a sense, because we're

31:59

anticipating. participating Israel's response and

32:01

then Iran's country response with

32:04

the possibility that this is going to get much,

32:06

much bigger. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of one

32:08

of our themes. And one thing that we are

32:11

kind of perturbed with the world

32:13

and specifically our government here in

32:15

the United States is to, you know,

32:17

they basically said, well, Israel, since we were

32:19

able to shoot these, you were able to

32:22

shoot these down and other partners were

32:24

able to, you know, keep people relatively safe

32:26

with minimal deaths caused

32:28

by Iran, that you really,

32:30

really shouldn't respond with

32:32

any kind of military action inside

32:34

Iran. And you know, you think

32:37

about, Chris, this happening to any

32:39

other country in the world, even if you,

32:41

you know, the US, you can use an

32:43

example, but any other country in the world,

32:45

if they came under that massive attack and

32:47

their defenses and their allies' defenses, yes, we're

32:49

that good. They still, I don't think,

32:51

would just respond with, hey, let's put some sanctions. Now,

32:53

I know Israel's in a different spot. They're not one

32:55

of the biggest countries in the world. So

32:58

we'll leave it to Israeli leaders to decide what's best

33:01

for Israel. But the idea, the

33:03

immediate world reaction is don't hit

33:05

back. Exactly.

33:08

And you know, I think President Biden put it this way, you

33:10

know, you've got to win, take a win. And

33:13

you know, so many nations urging

33:15

restraint. But as to your point,

33:17

one of the nation would allow

33:20

350 drones, missiles, ballistic missiles, and

33:23

cruise missiles to be fired at them. And

33:26

even though it was a great success, you

33:28

have to fight back. Jonathan Kinriquez, we've had him

33:30

on our show as well. He

33:33

made the point, you know, the rules of engagement here

33:35

in the Middle East, if you get hit, especially from

33:37

your own, somebody else's territory, you've got

33:39

to hit back. So Israel

33:41

has to have a response, and it

33:43

has to be likely on Iranian territory.

33:46

When's that going to happen? We remain

33:48

to be seen. I'll tell you one

33:50

possible scenario. And actually, I just got

33:52

off the phone with Jonathan Kinriquez. He

33:55

thinks maybe Israel is going to take a

33:58

Bit of time to allow the

34:00

the coalition to build with the

34:02

Arab nations and the United States.

34:04

almost. Let's Iran sue for a

34:06

bit. Odd. You know,

34:08

whenever Israel's gonna response or maybe as

34:10

as a Passover. Passover starts on that

34:13

sir Monday night for about a week

34:15

celebrating. The. Israelites a deliberate

34:17

from Egypt. And. I would add

34:19

this Jordan a lot of people believe it

34:22

was miraculous what happened the other night that

34:24

ninety nine percent of these three hundred fifty

34:26

drones and missiles was shut down. Ah, you

34:28

know even I was talking of the other

34:31

night or listening the a nice one of

34:33

the man who actually develop the i Don't

34:35

Anti missile system. He. Thought it would

34:37

be as successful. He had no idea it

34:39

would be this successful. Them. Is

34:42

amazing when you read the stories about how much

34:44

was big launched as Israel's and read the next

34:46

day about how. Defensively,

34:48

I notice Israel, the United States, other

34:50

countries I, Jordan, Egypt, even Turkey. A

34:52

passing on information A to try and

34:55

limit the casualties, understanding that Israeli response

34:57

to Iran or could be a very

34:59

dangerous for Iran. but but you as

35:01

you said it best is it if

35:03

if we can get to that point.

35:05

a good chris. Where. We can

35:08

start putting together that coalition that existed

35:10

maybe four and a half years ago

35:12

with the Gulf States and Israel to

35:14

say you know what combined together. Or

35:17

we could take a run on and

35:19

we could scare Iran into stop. A

35:21

try to take these aggressive steps

35:23

with their lives. that whether they're

35:26

ah a groups that that they're

35:28

silly with or sir shooting missiles

35:30

into Saudi Arabia or the who

35:32

teased or I or Hezbollah or

35:34

Hamas is it.together or we could

35:36

really isolate Iran with that Plus

35:38

say since I see said idea

35:40

of keeping Iran on its toes,

35:43

not knowing how Israel may respond

35:45

is probably the best strategy by

35:47

would imagine a good any other

35:49

countries. It's face this Chris I.

35:51

Just can't imagine the world coming out

35:53

and saying. Please. Don't do anything. said

35:57

you know you can go back even before october

35:59

seven two Yeah, I mean, the US,

36:01

Chris, if it happened to the

36:03

US, Chris, we would flatten the country that

36:05

did this to us. Yeah. Yeah. And

36:08

if you cut all the rockets from, say, 2007 when

36:10

Hamas took over Gaza, we're talking about 14,000 rockets. One

36:14

other nation in the world would have accepted

36:16

that. And it really became a bit of

36:18

a lifestyle. People accepted the fact

36:20

that rockets would eventually come. But what

36:22

other nation would actually accept that? To

36:25

your point about the coalition, Jordan, the UAE

36:27

and Saudi Arabia and Jordan all sort of

36:36

stepped out of the shadows. They

36:38

say this was a 45-year shadow war with

36:40

Iran, and Iran stepped out of it and

36:42

into the line to a direct

36:44

war with Israel. But I think also

36:47

you had Saudi Arabia saying that they

36:49

apparently passed on intelligence. The UAE

36:52

and Jordan itself shot down some

36:54

of these drones flying over their

36:56

airspace. And so this coalition could

36:59

be one of the

37:01

brighter lights, the civil lineings to

37:03

stand against Iran's ambitions

37:06

to literally take over the region. We

37:09

have seen the world, Chris, try to

37:11

create some political division within

37:13

Israel. We've seen our own president, our own

37:15

majority leader, Chuck Schumer, going

37:17

after Netanyahu, going after various members

37:20

of his government. Inside

37:22

Israel, is this a uniting moment? It's

37:25

been a lot for the Israeli people to take

37:28

on. From October 7th

37:30

and still dealing with that and the conflict

37:33

in Gaza and IDF troops are

37:35

being killed there each day fighting back

37:37

against Hamas, to this unprecedented

37:40

attack by Iran. This is something we

37:42

have not seen. Iran

37:44

crossed this kind of red line. It's

37:48

a lot for Israelis to again

37:50

to kind of just accept as a country that

37:52

is pretty good about Life goes on.

37:54

This has been a very tough stretch of

37:56

the last six months. Sacha.

38:00

As I've heard somebody say. Israel.

38:03

I really need the a hot bath and a

38:05

good night's sleep. But. More than that,

38:07

you know you could almost call it. I

38:09

think we're at one hundred ninety days of

38:11

they almost feel like time. A stop on

38:13

October seventh. You know the

38:15

Israel of October Six is not

38:17

the same as October Seventh. Or

38:19

you know October Six and and

38:21

before that was very divisive. When

38:24

this whole idea of judicial reform,

38:26

October seventh was a uniting as

38:28

this or this country like. Never

38:30

before I think the units. Are

38:32

and unfortunately there have been attempts

38:35

to sow discord like Sen. Chuck

38:37

Schumer and. Women:

38:39

Reporting and others have reported

38:41

on trying to undermine the

38:43

Netanyahu government. And. I just but

38:45

I just saw a bola yesterday of the day

38:47

before. That really, Netanyahu leads in

38:50

the polls right now and I think

38:52

Israelis first of all don't want any

38:54

foreign power, even the greatest ally the

38:56

United States, the interfere with her own

38:59

politics. And. I think they agree

39:01

with the goals of the war and

39:03

other nothing I was the spies ensues

39:05

that out of revising. That. They

39:07

want to eliminate Hamas. They want to destroy

39:10

Com Os. And eventually and

39:12

saying is gonna go to Hezbollah

39:14

and as we know maybe I'm

39:16

a day so days to weeks

39:19

ago Iran itself. Chris. We appreciate

39:21

you joining us alive from Jerusalem, Christmas or

39:23

senior. I corresponded with Cbs News in the

39:25

Middle East and we proceed all of your

39:27

inside Chris household. We celebrated petition of here

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as a seal J.or your we were writing

39:32

this yes there's other city sc but assists

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going to renew petition of about letting Israel

39:38

decide how to defend itself know when you

39:40

have I forgot about nearby man when you

39:42

from Schumer unaware of the Un I want

39:44

to let the Israelis decide if they want

39:47

to move to the path of sanctions as

39:49

they want to wait a little. while and

39:51

build a cool as since let them do

39:53

it stop putting this world press on them

39:55

after these on president has not tobar seventh

39:58

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40:33

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40:36

be joined by Danny D'None, but I do want to

40:38

give him just give me five seconds on what happened

40:40

in the Trump situation. So the Trump situation we're on

40:42

day two and of course this is that the Supreme

40:44

Court is hearing the January 6th. What

40:46

are the charges with the obstruction of official

40:49

proceeding? If the Supreme Court says

40:51

that has to go from this other defendant

40:53

to the four charges Jack Smith brings against

40:55

Trump, fall. We'll talk about that a little

40:57

bit later. All

41:07

right, welcome

41:09

back to a sec. It is great to be

41:12

joined by a great friend of ours, former U.N.

41:14

Ambassador to the U.N. of Israel, Danny D'None,

41:16

who is also a member of the Knesset now

41:18

and Israel Ambassador D'None. First

41:20

let me ask you because something

41:23

that got me upset as an American

41:25

is seeing so many world

41:28

leaders, whether it's at the U.N. or even

41:30

the U.S. President, basically trying

41:32

to tell Israel how it should respond

41:35

to this unprecedented attack by

41:37

Iran. And I

41:40

just want you to know that our team

41:42

at the ACLJ and our supporters at the

41:44

ACLJ are coming together to make it clear

41:46

that we believe that Israel

41:48

should be able to respond the

41:51

way that you choose, the way

41:53

that you believe is best to

41:55

respond to this unprecedented Iranian aggression.

42:00

Well I agree with you completely.

42:02

You know we appreciate the support

42:04

that we received from different countries

42:06

but that nasty that's the only

42:08

seen that this is as time

42:10

cause. London for

42:12

example by minister Sumac would have

42:15

said the same in also Strength

42:17

or Mccormack his license was under

42:19

attack from I was so I

42:21

think we should be polite condemn

42:24

the to respect their though opinion

42:26

but at the end of the

42:28

day we have to do what's

42:30

important than. A fallacy to

42:33

this, and that's why I don't see

42:35

any other options. The. Only to

42:37

retaliate to this is an aggressive

42:39

and president as attacks is and

42:41

that believe it will happen That

42:43

was it We have any choice.

42:46

He. Does cedric it without

42:48

a response? The. This is what

42:51

concerns me. I and known I know

42:53

you're in caves. Well member the Knesset.

42:55

Is. That is if this becomes the new

42:57

norm for Iran. Well they can fires mini

43:00

drones they want but he say you're telling

43:02

us other countries is enough of them. Get

43:04

shot down Does it cosmetics? Does it causes

43:06

really casualties? are desperate. Or. This is

43:09

okay. if this becomes something normal that

43:11

Israel has to put up with from

43:13

Iran that is not a way to

43:15

live as a country a country can't

43:17

live that way I you can't force

43:19

that way you can't out of he

43:21

says after what happened on October seven

43:23

now that's what's happened over this weekend

43:25

with Iran of you've got to push

43:27

back in a way that shows no

43:29

ah we're not going to sepsis kind

43:31

of attitude towards as a Jewish State

43:33

of Israel as.of we're going to respond

43:35

in a way that that pervades are

43:37

those countries to make. Them think twice

43:39

if this becomes. Like. An international

43:41

norm. That's what I'm concerned about. Like

43:43

somehow I present bites had taking. This

43:46

is a when. It's. great that

43:48

your defenses work to and you're able

43:50

to work with other countries whose defenses

43:52

work and that's wonderful but that that

43:55

doesn't always happen one hundred percent i

43:57

did did this time that that's wonderful

44:00

This cannot become the norm with Iran

44:02

and Israel, where Iran gets to fire

44:04

off whatever they want at Israel, including

44:07

ballistic missiles, and Israel can't respond. It's

44:10

not a win. It's a win

44:13

for Tehran, but it's not a

44:15

win for Israel. It's not a win for Western

44:17

democracies, because the Iranians wanted

44:19

to create a new equation that

44:21

they actually decide when to start and

44:24

when to end the conflict. And

44:27

next time, who knows what will

44:29

be their excuse to target Israel

44:31

again? That's why I

44:33

think we shouldn't accept

44:36

the idea of

44:38

calling it a day and move on. We're

44:41

going to retaliate. We don't

44:43

want to start a full war with Iran,

44:45

but we will have to send them a

44:47

very clear and painful message, don't

44:49

mess with us. Don't mess with

44:51

Israel. Don't mess with the IDF.

44:55

And if you think that we are weak because we

44:57

are busy now fighting Hamas and

44:59

Hezbollah, you are mistaken.

45:01

The same way we showed our

45:03

defense capabilities, we will be able

45:06

to demonstrate also our offensive capabilities.

45:09

It feels in some sense, Ambassador

45:11

Danone, that Iran must...it's

45:14

like they knew the world was going to take their side.

45:16

I mean, it's kind of sick that you

45:18

would think a country taking

45:20

this aggressive action so recklessly,

45:23

but that they somehow didn't

45:25

fear the reaction because they

45:28

knew the world. They

45:30

take a look at the U.A., they take a look

45:32

at some of the other countries, and they say, you

45:34

know what? None of them are really going to support

45:36

Israel hitting back at us. So ultimately,

45:39

Israel will look like the bad guy

45:41

in this situation. And I think that's

45:43

what our job is here, like the

45:45

Americans for Law and Justice, is to

45:47

be clear to Americans and our supporters

45:50

who support Israel that you as a

45:52

country, independent country, a sovereign

45:54

nation, have every right to

45:56

respond to Iran however you

45:58

feel is necessary. And that's

46:00

it. That should be where the discussion stops.

46:03

You've got leaders, you've got your

46:05

military, you've got your capabilities, and

46:08

I would hope the United States

46:10

would be there standing with you.

46:12

But regardless, it should be up

46:14

to the Israeli government and military

46:16

on how to respond, not

46:18

up to world organizations. Moreover,

46:22

if you look at history, you can see

46:24

that whenever we took the

46:26

decisions ourselves without the US,

46:29

as the long one, it was the right decision.

46:33

Take for example the decision to attack the

46:35

nuclear reactor in Iraq. President

46:37

Reagan was not happy

46:39

about it, but when the US

46:41

invaded Iraq, the US admitted that

46:43

it was a very

46:46

good decision for the US. Same

46:48

when we attacked the reactor in

46:50

Syria, the US was not happy

46:52

about it. So I think

46:54

we should look at what's good for Israel. For

46:57

the long one, it will also serve the US

46:59

because when Israel is strong, the US is strong.

47:02

And that's why I think the US should give us the

47:04

support and tell all the

47:06

countries in the world that there

47:08

is more clarity. And if

47:11

you have a sovereign state attacking

47:13

another sovereign state, we

47:15

can defend ourselves and we should do

47:17

that. Ambassador Duda, I

47:19

think you've done an incredible job of taking

47:21

Americans around, showing the aftermath

47:24

of October 7th. I

47:26

think you've had a new job now, which is as

47:29

Americans come and news agencies come

47:31

to see what was done

47:33

here to prevent massive casualty

47:36

as well. But if you had that one message to

47:38

the American people, and you're talking to the American people

47:42

who support Israel, what would you ask them

47:44

to do today? First,

47:46

I would ask them to continue

47:48

to pray and support us, to

47:51

convince the elected representatives to stand

47:53

with Israel and to realize that

47:55

those drones can get to the US. Today

47:57

they have the capability to come to our shores. but

48:01

it's only a matter of time until they will have

48:03

the capabilities to reach the U.S. Same

48:05

goal for the ballistic missions. So it

48:08

happens to be that we are in

48:10

the front line against Iran, but we

48:12

have no conflict with Iran. We

48:14

have no border with Iran. It's pure hate. The

48:16

same hate they have against us. They have

48:19

against the American values. And

48:21

that's why we encourage everybody to stand up and

48:23

stand with Israel. Ambassador Danone, who's

48:25

also an MK, a member of the

48:27

Knesset. We appreciate you so much joining

48:29

us live from Israel with that update. We hope you'll

48:31

join us more in the future as

48:33

Israel decides how to respond to this

48:36

unprecedented Iranian attack. I know the ACLJ

48:38

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