This particular episode has been painful to edit. I've been sitting on it for over a year. Just before I was going to share it with you in 2022, Dan Palmer passed away aged 47.

It has taken me this long to pluck up the courage to revisit our conversation - and it is now with love and respect for my dear friend Dan that I release this conversation. This week his film Reading Landscape is also going live - sharing the observational design practices of permaculture founder David Holmgren.

Dan and I shared a love of permaculture, living systems design. I felt we were kind of kindred spirits and I really valued how deeply and intensely he cared about the world and humanity - how he was not only full of ideas but he got out and made so many happen!

Dan launched Permablitz in Melbourne, co-created the permaculture design and education business Very Edible Garden, and was an avid permaculture design teacher.

He hosted a podcast (which I joined him on) called Making Permaculture Stronger and I loved listening to his exploration of permaculture in relation to Holistic Decision Making and what he described as a Living Design Process.

I miss Dan. I wish he was still with us. I hope you enjoy tuning into our conversation.

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