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Hey everybody, welcome back to an all-new

0:59

episode of Serial Asleep. Realistically with me,

1:01

Annie Elise. Today's episode

1:03

is, I guess you call it a

1:05

bonus episode, but it is going to

1:07

take the place of our normal Thursday

1:10

headline highlight episode. And the reason why

1:12

is because I have been receiving so

1:14

so many requests from you guys to

1:17

talk about this case. And I wasn't

1:20

going to talk about it at first because

1:22

there have been no charges. It has been

1:24

ruled self-inflicted, but the more

1:26

that we were researching it and looked

1:28

into it, I feel as though it

1:30

is worth discussing, not to lay anymore,

1:33

not to fuel the conspiracy narratives that are

1:35

out there, but because there

1:37

are certain elements of it that do

1:40

illustrate to me red

1:42

flags of domestic disputes of mental

1:45

control, emotional control, emotional abuse. And

1:47

so if anything, I just wanted

1:49

to come on here and talk

1:51

about it, almost to use this

1:54

as like a case example of

1:56

what to look for if you're

1:58

in an unhealthy relationship. and

2:00

unfortunately what to look for if like friends or

2:02

family are in an unhealthy relationship and don't get

2:04

me wrong there still are so many people out

2:07

there that believe that there is more to this

2:09

story and then what the

2:11

police is sharing even though there has been a

2:13

911 call release now and

2:15

a full timeline of events but I'm

2:18

gonna lay it all out for you It's the case

2:20

of Micah Miller and she is the

2:22

woman that was found dead over the weekend on April 27th

2:26

Her husband is a pastor. He made some

2:28

very unsettling sermons right after her death and

2:30

in the months leading up to her death

2:33

So what I'm gonna do is I'm going

2:35

to lay everything out for you as far

2:37

as why people think there are a lot

2:39

of red flags Why people think they're shady

2:41

backstories why they think there's more to this

2:43

But also what the facts are and what

2:45

we know that way you have just kind

2:47

of a full comprehensive view and again That's

2:49

not to fuel any of these conspiracy narratives,

2:51

but I want you to Hear

2:55

what Micah had been going through

2:57

because there could be more to this

2:59

story not saying that he's a murderer But

3:01

as to what her mental health struggles were

3:03

and what the rooted cause of those mental

3:05

health struggles Was from

3:08

but I think it's important to shed

3:10

light on this case for a multitude of reasons

3:12

as I explained so as I

3:15

mentioned her death has been

3:17

ruled self-inflicted a 911

3:19

call was also released on the afternoon of

3:22

May 7th And I will play that

3:24

for you and it just further

3:26

illustrates that this was not murder as

3:28

many are suggesting Could

3:30

she have been driven to it for one reason or another? Sure,

3:33

and we will talk about more of that and then

3:35

you can draw your own conclusions But

3:37

let's kind of jump right in and again, I'm gonna

3:39

lay out what is waving red

3:41

flag for people And

3:43

why and what really happened and

3:46

just everything? So everything

3:48

in today's episode is sourced

3:50

from official news sources court

3:53

documents family statements and also

3:55

police reports Anything else that

3:57

we talked about is alleged. It's my opinion

3:59

only. Me either. Reminder: just always do

4:01

your own research. So without, let's just

4:04

get right into this case. So

4:06

on April Twenty seventh, Twenty Twenty Four

4:08

Police were called to Lumber River State

4:10

Park in North Carolina. There.

4:13

They found Mike Miller his body know

4:15

my go with only thirty years old

4:17

at the time of her death and

4:19

Michael was married at to at pastor

4:21

John Paul Miller. He was a pastor

4:23

with a D Solid Rock Church an

4:25

upmarket Com and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

4:28

So following her death multiple memorial services

4:30

were held in Myrtle Beach to honor

4:32

my dad who friends and family say

4:34

was just an extremely involved a member

4:36

at Solid Rock Church where she saying

4:38

and where her husband with the pastor

4:41

one man said quote. Shoes Just

4:43

the nicest person you ever talk to.

4:45

His area of lifting very supportive, always

4:47

hoping she was just so know is

4:49

also a woman said that make a

4:51

baptized your daughter and also played an

4:53

active role in the church His Youth

4:55

Program so it's Police quietly began an

4:57

investigation into Mike As Death. The news

4:59

of her death and usually shocked everyone.

5:02

But. Not in the way that you

5:04

might be thinking see, Nobody knew that

5:06

she had died until her husband Pastor

5:08

John Paul Miller gave a very bizarre

5:11

sermon it to his congregation. Would

5:13

order to alter call today instead of. Instead.

5:16

Of I'm gonna have you stand up and of

5:18

the make her veil summit at all of after

5:20

the announcement of ask of You. Have

5:23

believe church quietly them and don't

5:25

talk about the announcement. You're. In

5:27

the building basically can see officer and your feet.

5:30

Bomb. But.

5:33

Before my even else would also say that on.

5:35

My. Request to use as you will continue to

5:38

join the church and serve and give. Arm.

5:41

For. The next a little bits are one of I'm

5:43

taking a bit of a break. I don't want have

5:45

to worry about the turks are brig maybe a few

5:47

days of the week settlement. Or

5:49

got a call last night. I was

5:52

has pesticides. Appear it was.

5:54

It was self induced and it was all

5:56

of the North Carolina. and on

5:58

for ever seen or for her next Sunday here at

6:00

3 p.m. and so

6:03

it's all I can be I'm just kind

6:05

of going on adrenaline

6:07

right now so y'all pray for

6:10

me and my kids and everybody and she

6:12

was she wasn't y'all knew that she wasn't well mentally

6:14

and then she needed medicine that was hard to

6:17

get to her now this clip was

6:19

posted across social media platforms and instantly

6:21

went viral guys because not only is

6:23

the statement shocking in general yes but

6:25

it was also kind of said in

6:27

such a crass manner from her husband

6:30

who is a pastor of all people

6:32

and on top of all of that

6:34

the fact that he literally started out

6:36

by saying that everybody needed to leave

6:38

quietly after he was finished with his

6:40

statement I mean the whole thing was

6:43

just strange at best and in my

6:45

opinion almost pathological at worst and it

6:47

kind of just left everybody left everybody

6:49

just feeling like something wasn't quite right

6:51

here so John Paul

6:53

later told ABC 15 quote she

6:56

had struggled with suicide before each

6:58

time we would help her through it and take

7:00

her to the doctor and we got through it

7:03

and everything was fine she even gave a few

7:05

testimonies here at church which we have on video

7:07

she battled suicide but God took care of her

7:09

and got her through it but

7:11

then as quickly as John Paul's announcement

7:13

of Micah's death went viral all sorts

7:16

of different information began coming out which

7:18

made this entire situation just all the

7:20

more puzzling many people felt like

7:22

there was definitely way more to the story than

7:24

John Paul was letting on and

7:26

Micah's family echoed these same sentiments so

7:29

let's talk through all of that first

7:32

Micah filed for separation from John Paul

7:34

just 12 days before

7:36

her death and according to her obituary they

7:38

got married back in 2017 after first meeting

7:42

back in 2009 it's also been alleged

7:44

that she was 15 years

7:46

old when they first met but just to give

7:48

you a little bit more context behind the timeline

7:51

of how long they had known each other so

7:54

the second thing that people thought that was

7:56

odd aside from her filing for separation 12

7:58

just 12 days before her

8:00

death is that she had filed three

8:02

different quote separate support and maintenance requests.

8:04

This is since last year and the

8:06

very last one was filed in mid-april

8:08

of 2024. So the second thing that

8:12

people thought that was odd aside from her filing

8:14

for separation just 12 days before her death

8:17

is that she had filed three

8:19

different quote separate support and maintenance

8:21

requests. This is since last year

8:24

and the very last one was

8:26

filed in mid-april of 2024. Again

8:28

and she was just found dead on

8:30

the 27th. Now separate support

8:33

and maintenance allows for one spouse

8:35

to receive court ordered support from

8:37

another spouse without officially divorcing. The

8:39

third issue that people were taking with all

8:42

of this and deeming as a red flag

8:44

or somewhat suspicious is that back

8:46

on March 11th 2024, so

8:48

a little over a month before she died, Mica's

8:51

tires were completely slashed around

8:54

1 30 a.m. at Spring Maid Pier. She

8:56

claimed that this is also the second time that

8:59

a razor had deflated her tire within that week.

9:01

When she took her car in to get her tires

9:04

fixed at the dealership, a mechanic actually ended up letting

9:06

her know that not only were her tires slashed, but

9:08

there was also a tracking device on her car.

9:10

So Mica reported this tire slashing to

9:12

the police. Then later on at

9:14

around 11 30 a.m. she called

9:16

the police again. According to the

9:18

police report, Mica reported quote a man who

9:21

she has been avoiding came up to her

9:23

at a gas station. The suspect pulled up

9:25

beside her and tried to speak with her.

9:27

She told him to go away and he

9:30

sped off before she could record this encounter.

9:32

He also has been calling and texting her from

9:35

a private number despite the fact that she has

9:37

blocked his number. The report

9:39

also stated that Mica noticed quote

9:41

strange activity and believed that people

9:43

were following or watching her. She

9:46

then told police that she feared for her life

9:48

and that she tried to get a restraining order

9:50

against this suspect who was not named in the

9:52

police reports because no charges ever came from this

9:54

complaint. So you could be the judge

9:56

of who the suspect is in this report. Many

9:59

people of course. believe that it was her

10:01

husband, that she had been trying to get away

10:03

from him, that maybe he was following her, he

10:05

put this tracking device on her, then she finally

10:07

files for divorce, all of these things, right? However,

10:10

a lot of other people are

10:12

saying that no, this is actually

10:14

a component of mental health

10:16

struggles. She was hyper paranoid. She thought

10:18

somebody was following her. Yes, there was

10:20

a tracking device, but could

10:22

that have been self-placed? I mean, I'm just when

10:24

I tell you guys that theories are going wild,

10:26

they are going wild, but I just want to

10:28

talk through all of them with you so that

10:30

you can get this full overview of what's going

10:32

on in this case. So then you can, of

10:35

course, come to your own conclusions. So

10:37

in another red flag, the fourth, or I should say

10:39

in alleged red flag, what people

10:41

are deeming as a red flag is

10:44

in an affidavit, her sister, Sierra Francis

10:46

asked the court to be the special

10:49

administrator of Micah's estate. And

10:51

in this affidavit, she says, quote, I

10:53

was aware of Micah's family dynamics and

10:55

relationship with her husband, John Paul Miller,

10:58

also with her stepchildren, Celaya, Asher, Logan,

11:00

Eli, and walk. Micah and

11:02

I spoke every few days texting daily,

11:04

so much so as to even create playlists

11:07

together. Michael would drive to visit me

11:09

and my family in Gaffney, South Carolina,

11:11

at least once a month. I know

11:13

my sister has expressed the abuse and

11:15

violence against her by her husband to

11:17

others, including family members and members of

11:19

the church congregation. Micah told

11:21

me that there were people following her, keeping

11:23

track of where she went. She thought that

11:26

Mr. Miller hired people to follow her. Mr.

11:28

Miller later confirmed this during a sermon, which

11:30

I watched. Micah confided in me

11:32

that Mr. Miller was moving assets that were

11:35

in his name, such as his vehicle, also

11:37

changing the deed to their house, to their

11:39

church, transferring interest in crocodile rocks to one

11:42

of his sons. And in February 2024, Mr.

11:44

Miller removed my sister's personal items from their

11:46

home that they shared while she was admitted

11:48

to a mental health facility, and then he

11:51

left them at an apartment of a woman

11:53

named Diana. My sister was not aware that

11:55

her personal possessions had been removed from her

11:57

residence until she was released from the hospital.

12:00

Prior to her admission to the mental

12:02

health facility, Micah was gathering and sorting

12:04

the evidence that she had to bring

12:06

to an attorney for filing for divorce,

12:08

so that it would support her claims

12:10

against Mr. Miller, as to his abuse,

12:13

his character, his paramours, and associates that

12:15

he quote, paid off or blackmailed. While

12:18

at the facility, those documents,

12:20

emails, files, etc. were all

12:22

removed from her phone, personal

12:24

laptop, vehicle, and purse, and

12:26

they were never recovered. Further,

12:28

Micah wasn't able to access her

12:30

iCloud account, her email, or her

12:33

Facebook profile. Mr. Miller continued using

12:35

at least one of Micah's accounts,

12:37

causing any recipient to believe that

12:39

it was Micah's communications. Micah

12:41

even talked about what she wanted her life

12:43

to be like following her divorce from Mr.

12:45

Miller. Having traveled for a

12:47

church mission this past fall from October 15th

12:50

through October 27th,

12:52

2023, Micah was intending to participate

12:54

in additional missions, even to live

12:56

part-time in Kenya. Micah recently

12:58

shipped some of her personal items to

13:01

Kenya in preparation of her stay there.

13:03

My sister was hopeful for her future after

13:05

filing for divorce from John Paul. My

13:08

sister also expressed to me that she was fearful

13:10

that she would not make it to the divorce and

13:12

that her life would be taken from her. It is

13:15

my belief based on the conversations with

13:17

my sister that she told multiple people,

13:19

including other family members. Micah

13:21

stated to me on many occasions, quote, if

13:23

I end up with a bullet in my

13:25

head, it was not by me. It

13:28

was JP. Micah forwarded

13:30

a family group text message notifying us that

13:32

Mr. Miller was served the divorce papers on

13:34

April 25th, 2024. Then on April 27th, 2024,

13:36

my sister, Micah Miller, was found dead as a result of a gunshot

13:43

wound. She was found in Lumberton, North Carolina,

13:45

which as a side note, guys, is about

13:48

an hour and a half drive from Myrtle

13:50

Beach. So if all of that's true, that's

13:52

pretty damning, right? And that's what's gotten a

13:54

lot of people up in arms and totally

13:57

thinking that the husband is guilty and responsible

13:59

for this. And we're also going

14:01

to talk more about how she died shortly,

14:03

but first, there's more that you need to

14:05

know about John Paul. So John Paul was

14:07

previously married and had five children before marrying

14:10

Micah. According to friends and family, and even

14:12

church congregation members, John Paul actually met Micah

14:14

when she was 14 or 15 years old

14:16

in that youth group, as I previously mentioned.

14:18

Now it's been reported that at the time,

14:20

he was actually the leader of that youth

14:22

group, and that this was during

14:24

his previous marriage. So some

14:27

people believe that he allegedly groomed her

14:29

before then marrying her later on when she

14:31

was legally an adult. And to level set the

14:33

age difference, John is 44 years old now, and

14:35

Micah is 30 years old. So back then, he

14:37

would have been around 28 years old when she

14:40

was 14 or 15 years old. Certainly

14:44

too old to be dating a 14 or 15 year old. Was

14:47

there a, did he have an affair

14:50

with Micah and leave his wife and

14:52

children to be with her? And

14:54

if that's the case, how old was

14:56

she when he did that? So

14:59

I remember a specific

15:02

conversation that I

15:04

had with him when

15:06

that was brought up. And because I'd

15:09

heard about that, like there

15:11

were rumors, you know, going around

15:13

that their relationship even

15:15

started in fidelity and

15:17

things like that. And in my conversation with

15:20

him, it was he did basically confirm that

15:22

he did not get into her age. What

15:24

he said, what he said to me point

15:27

blank was that she was in my youth

15:29

group. We became friends

15:32

over time. It became kind of

15:34

something more. And that was

15:36

probably the gist of it as far as I

15:38

can remember now. I mean,

15:40

it's been years ago, but it

15:42

was a little concerning. And

15:45

there were other, I don't think, yeah.

15:47

Yeah, there were other members. That's very

15:50

concerning, right? Oh, very. Yes.

15:53

And there were other members of the church, so

15:55

that when I asked

15:57

about it, it was just kind of.

16:00

It's something that kind of everybody knew and

16:02

accepted. Now in another unsettling

16:04

piece of information, one

16:06

of John Paul's exes posted on Facebook

16:09

about a similar situation. Again,

16:11

this is according to a Facebook post guy, so take it

16:13

with a grain of salt because I haven't been able to

16:15

100% verify the information. But

16:18

in this post she reads, and I'm going

16:20

to read a verbatim for you because she

16:22

hashtags this post with Justice for Micah. She

16:25

says, while posting updates, I'm going to speak out

16:27

on the Micah Miller case. I

16:29

am an ex of John Paul Miller. I was 14

16:32

years old and he was 19 years old. I

16:34

was a child at the time, but I didn't

16:37

see an issue. But at 19, obviously he should

16:39

have. We dated for a year

16:41

and I found out that he was dating

16:43

his first wife, Allie, while we were together,

16:45

all unbeknownst to her. She later found out

16:47

and he lied about it, as he continued

16:50

to do, about the multitude of infidelities the

16:52

remainder of their marriage. This has

16:54

been hard to watch and keep quiet about, but

16:56

I feel it's time to be transparent about it.

16:58

I attended and graduated from

17:01

Grandstand Academy, later renamed Cathedral

17:03

Hall Academy. The church

17:05

and school his father founded and

17:07

was headmaster of, which later became

17:09

Solid Rock. I dated John

17:11

Paul and dealt with a small amount of

17:13

his abuse comparatively. JP also

17:16

contacted me inappropriately after Allie finally left

17:18

him due to infidelity. This was around

17:20

2016. He

17:23

was not remorseful of his actions to her

17:25

with others, was upset over the amount of

17:27

people that left the church that hurt him

17:29

financially and was quickly shut down on my

17:31

end. What I did witness,

17:33

with myself and my siblings as members

17:35

in the church as teenagers, is the

17:37

overall abuse from JP and his father

17:39

to others. I also visited

17:42

many state parks with JP, visiting his

17:44

dad because he loved state parks to

17:46

quote reconnect with God. Myrtle

17:48

Beach State Park is also where his dad

17:50

was arrested for soliciting gay sex. You can

17:52

look that up publicly. The

17:55

fact that Micah was found in a state park

17:57

only brings me back to this family. I

17:59

feel I have been a... and not speaking out and

18:01

dealing with this privately with my family. But

18:03

I want to say that we believe that

18:06

this was Micah's last and oh so important

18:08

purpose is stopping this man from continuing to

18:10

hurt others and to stop him as a

18:12

representative of our Lord and Savior. I

18:15

am a Christian and I love the Lord

18:17

so much. And I want to say that

18:19

what John Paul Miller and his dad represent

18:22

is not of God. It is not a

18:24

representation of Jesus Christ. God

18:26

is good and pure and kind and he would

18:28

never want a man to treat his wife the

18:30

way that JP treated Micah. Please

18:32

don't let this evil man turn you away

18:35

from the church. And then it's

18:37

hashtag justice for Micah. And it has over

18:39

700 likes, 182 comments and 161 shares. Now,

18:45

even though Micah officially filed for divorce in

18:47

April, she and John Paul have been separated

18:49

for months. It's been reported that

18:52

during this time, John Paul has had

18:54

a girlfriend. Now, this alleged girlfriend's husband

18:56

died three years ago from what was

18:58

ruled as a drowning accident. And in

19:00

a weird twist of fate or serendipitous

19:03

moment, whatever you decide, that same

19:05

report indicated that John Paul conducted

19:07

the husband's funeral. Another thing

19:09

that has people up in arms and thinking that

19:12

there's a lot of red flags and shadiness going

19:14

on here is that Micah posted

19:16

videos on Facebook speaking to women in

19:18

general about situations of abuse. And she

19:20

also shared advice to those who may

19:22

be in abusive relationships. I've

19:25

had a lot of women that

19:27

have reached out to me about situations

19:29

of abuse. And

19:32

I just

19:35

want to tell you what a lot of people have told me. Male

19:38

or female, it doesn't matter what gender

19:41

you are, abusive abuse. And

19:46

you are the bride of Christ. And

19:50

my Bible says that he took

19:53

all the abuse you could think of for

19:55

you, so that you

19:57

didn't have to live that life of slavery.

20:01

and bondage and

20:04

pain. So

20:07

you don't have to stay in a

20:10

abusive relationship, whether

20:12

that's sexual, whether

20:14

that's somebody forcing you

20:16

to take illegal drugs or

20:20

alcohol abuse or physical

20:23

abuse, psychological

20:25

abuse, making you think that this is

20:27

all your fault or you're a bad

20:29

mom or you're about wife

20:31

or you're a bad husband or

20:33

you're not

20:36

giving it your all when you know you are. God

20:41

hates divorce, but

20:43

why? According to everybody I've asked

20:45

and the scriptures that I've found, it's

20:47

because it hurts people. But

20:50

does abuse hurt people? How

20:53

do you think God feels about that? A

20:55

friend that spoke to Micah the night before she

20:58

died also posted on Facebook and said the following,

21:01

I will not sit here and pretend that

21:03

I know exactly what happened on Saturday, but

21:05

I know a lot. I am

21:07

well aware in the past that Micah has

21:09

had mental health issues and I witnessed her

21:11

struggle firsthand. But I also know that in

21:13

the last few months, this has never been

21:15

used as a weapon to control her. The

21:18

Micah I saw at the beginning of her mental

21:20

health journey was not the Micah I witnessed in

21:22

the last month. The Micah I was

21:24

seeing was a grown woman trying to break

21:26

the chains of an abusive marriage. When

21:29

I talked to Micah last, she was

21:31

making plans moving forward and trusting God.

21:33

Her faith was her shield. She

21:36

had reconnected with people that she had

21:38

been isolated from, myself included. She

21:41

was sorting out her new normal and God was putting

21:43

the right people around her. When

21:45

we had our first meeting in the

21:47

years, we sat at lunch and talked

21:49

until dinnertime for five hours. We had

21:51

been in regular communication since that day.

21:54

I was part of Micah's church for years. We

21:56

did life together during that season. Leaving

21:58

that church was one of the... hardest things Brian and

22:01

I ever did. We loved the people in

22:03

that church, but God had made it clear that

22:05

we needed to go because it was a

22:07

toxic environment. We endured relentless

22:09

attacks from the pastor. It

22:11

was unlike anything we had ever experienced.

22:14

In ministry, God calls us where He

22:16

needs us, and instead of supporting and

22:18

loving us, our entire family came under

22:20

attack. There were attempts to

22:22

sabotage us in our new church home, calls

22:24

made to employers, dropping in at my place

22:26

of business in the middle of my work

22:28

day when I refused to answer calls. And

22:31

the calls were more than I can count. Emails

22:34

that were rants in writing, it was a

22:36

nightmare for close to a month. So

22:39

Michael wasn't just leaving a church, she was

22:41

leaving her marriage. She was done. She hired

22:43

a lawyer, she moved out, she was getting

22:45

a divorce, and she was left with nothing

22:47

but her faith, her family, and a small

22:49

circle of friends. Was it hard?

22:51

Yes. She had her tires

22:54

cut multiple times, found multiple trackers

22:56

on her car, couch hopped in

22:58

fear of being found, and was

23:00

hospitalized by her husband when it

23:02

was completely unnecessary. She

23:04

confided to me that she felt like an orphan and

23:06

feared that no church would want her because of him.

23:09

What she didn't know is that a large

23:12

portion of us who had experienced the wrath

23:14

of that existing church were waiting for her

23:16

with open arms. I talked to

23:18

her multiple times in her final week here on

23:20

earth. She was making plans to get her hair

23:22

cut, getting help with her car payment because

23:24

she was a little short after paying her

23:26

divorce lawyer, and planning to meet us

23:29

for the second service at church on Sunday. My

23:31

final text with her on Friday at 9.19pm was

23:33

a woman making plans to live. What

23:38

happened between Friday night and Saturday? I

23:41

was so overwhelmed seeing two certain people on

23:43

the news last night trying to minimize Micah

23:45

by painting her mentally ill and crying like

23:48

they were currently present in her life. So

23:50

guys, that post was obviously loaded for a

23:52

multitude of reasons. Not only was she saying

23:54

that she was texting with her up until

23:56

she was then found dead and that Micah

23:58

had been making all these plans to

24:00

live and to live a more happy life,

24:03

but she's also saying that she had witnessed

24:05

abuse firsthand from the church, the wrath of

24:07

the church as she calls it, the wrath

24:09

of JP, John Paul, the pastor. So

24:12

it makes you wonder what's true and

24:14

what's not regarding that because we have

24:16

seen incidents where unfortunately

24:19

victims succumb

24:21

to their mental health issues and they even if

24:23

they are making plans, even if they seem like

24:25

they do want to live and they have the

24:27

will to live, they do take their lives. So

24:29

the fact that she was texting at 919 while

24:31

it could be an indicator of something, not necessarily,

24:34

we've seen it proven otherwise

24:36

several times, but there's a

24:38

couple other things that are standing out to people. So

24:41

after John Paul's sermon, you know the one when

24:43

he announced Mica's mental health issues and said that

24:45

she died of a suicide, John Paul

24:47

was released from his duties as a pastor

24:49

and a notice was sent out to the

24:51

members of the church saying that John Paul

24:54

was quote released for a time of healing,

24:56

counsel, and guidance pursuant to our governing instrument.

24:59

The Solid Rock Church website has

25:01

also since been suspended. Another

25:04

unsettling piece of information or perhaps

25:06

just a red herring is

25:08

a video on Vimeo which shows

25:10

Mica talking about her own struggles

25:12

with mental health and in this

25:14

video she describes the situation where

25:16

she almost took her own life

25:18

before. Now according to the creator

25:21

Plunder, this was posted anonymously just

25:23

three days before Mica's death. Now

25:25

many people online and in Facebook groups

25:27

have put together another timeline of events

25:30

relating to John Paul's statements at the

25:32

church. This post comes from

25:34

somebody named Robbie Harvey on Facebook and I

25:36

haven't been able to verify every single thing

25:38

in this post, so again please take this

25:40

information with a grain of salt and do

25:43

your own research. But it's

25:45

titled the Mica Miller timeline of events.

25:47

It says on February 4th, Pastor John

25:50

Paul preaches a sermon on Cora and

25:52

Moses and how it's wrong to rise

25:54

against religious leaders. On February 23rd,

25:57

Pastor John Paul filed for spousal

25:59

support. February 25th, in

26:01

another sermon to his congregation, Pastor

26:03

John Paul says a mentally ill

26:05

person doesn't know they're sick. Quote,

26:08

you have to trust people around you. The

26:10

thing that's sick is your mind and your

26:12

mind is what you need to realize that

26:14

you're sick. On March

26:17

10th, Pastor John Paul preaches a sermon and

26:19

reveals that he went through two years of

26:21

messages on his wife's phone. He

26:23

found that 18 people reached out saying

26:25

to her, quote, if you ever want to

26:27

talk about your husband, you can talk to

26:29

me and I'll keep it confidential. Visibly

26:32

upset, the pastor followed up with,

26:34

quote, that's a demon talking, end

26:36

quote. Now I just got to

26:38

say guys really quick before I continue, this does

26:41

stick out to me whether it means something or

26:43

not in the greater grand scheme of thing, I

26:45

don't know, but the fact that he's vocalizing publicly

26:47

that he went through two years of messages on

26:49

his wife's phone. First of all, it's

26:52

my belief that if you go through your partner's

26:54

phone history messages that that is an indicator

26:57

of some type of like control or abusive behavior,

26:59

emotionally, whatever it may be. I just I personally

27:01

don't believe in doing that. But if you're allowing

27:03

it and you're like, go through my phone,

27:05

let's go through each other's to each their own.

27:08

I just think if you're like secretly going

27:10

through a phone, that's not a good sign. But

27:12

also the fact that he then talked about

27:14

his findings publicly and that he found 18 people

27:17

had reached out to her saying, Hey, if you ever

27:19

want to talk about your husband, talk to me, I'll

27:21

keep it confidential. To me, that kind of indicates

27:23

that there were 18 people at

27:26

minimum worried enough to where they expressed

27:28

to her, Hey, if there's anything you

27:30

want to confide in me, it'll be

27:32

confidential. Is there anything that you want

27:34

to talk about? So either they recognize

27:36

that something was wrong, or maybe they

27:38

recognize something in his behavior. And I

27:41

think that's pretty telling, not saying that he's

27:43

a murderer. But like, I

27:45

think that does shed some light on

27:47

the dynamic of this marriage. But again, to then

27:49

for him to then just say this publicly, but

27:51

say that's a demon talking, it

27:53

kind of feel it's kind of giving

27:55

entitled it's kind of giving thinking you're

27:57

holier than now. So this was a

28:00

March 10th, in another piece on this timeline there because

28:02

there's a few things from March 10th. The

28:05

next thing says, March 10th,

28:07

Pastor John Paul says to his

28:09

congregation, quote, one thing

28:11

I'm going to preach about is

28:13

getting rich, strong, healthy, and finding

28:15

a hot wife that loves Jesus.

28:17

This was while he was wearing his wedding

28:20

ring. Then on March 10th,

28:22

he also tells his congregation that his wife

28:24

was in the hospital and as soon as

28:26

she got out, she left him. He says,

28:28

quote, she gets out and she just leaves,

28:31

just completely leaves me, leaves everything, drains the

28:33

bank account and just goes. Guess

28:35

what? While you're talking bad about me

28:37

out there, I'm building a school in Africa for

28:39

over 100 kids to be able to be fed.

28:42

Again, why he's airing all of this dirty laundry

28:44

publicly, I don't know. I've seen it happen actually

28:46

in a church local to me too and it

28:48

brushed me that he was the wrong way. But

28:50

also like the fact that he's talking about how

28:53

she leaves this hospital and then leaves him, drains

28:55

the bank account yet he's bringing it back to

28:57

him and how amazing he is being like, so

28:59

while you're doing this, I'm building a school in

29:01

Africa for over 100, for over 100 kids so

29:04

they can be fed. It's just like, it's

29:06

giving, I don't want to say narcissist, but

29:08

kinda. I don't know. What do you think?

29:10

So then on March 12th, his request for

29:13

spousal support was dismissed, but there's no

29:15

explanation as to why. Then five days

29:18

later, on March 17th, Pastor

29:20

John Paul tells a story of a pastor

29:22

whose wife left him for a member of

29:24

his staff. The pastor had

29:26

to hire a third party company to find

29:28

her. Once he found her, divorce papers were

29:30

drawn up. When the time came

29:32

to sign the papers, the pastor couldn't do

29:34

it though because quote, the Bible says divorce

29:37

is wrong and that if she wanted out,

29:39

she would have to leave him. So

29:42

here, and again, this is just me

29:44

speculating guys, the third party having to

29:46

find her, is that the tracker that

29:48

was on her car? Did he hire

29:50

a present investigator to follow her? What's

29:52

really happening here? Because remember this whole police report when

29:54

her tires were slashed and when they fix the tires

29:57

and they look at it, they're not gonna be able

29:59

to get it. located the tracking device. This

30:01

was on March 11th. So this

30:03

was literally right before his sermon.

30:06

He gave his sermon on March

30:08

17th. So was

30:10

this whole third company the tracker?

30:12

It's just weird, right? Like, again,

30:15

not saying this guy's a murderer,

30:17

but like, there's definitely some sort

30:19

of level of control and

30:22

emotional abuse, in my opinion,

30:24

at least. There's something weird happening beneath

30:26

the surface here. So

30:28

then, that same day on March 17th,

30:31

in a Facebook post made by Micah's

30:33

sister, Sierra, she says that she keeps

30:35

an eye on her phone, quote, for

30:37

fear of my sister's safety due to

30:39

others' behaviors toward her. She

30:42

goes on to mention the sermon from

30:44

March 17th, and she calls out the

30:46

congregation of Solid Rock Church. The very

30:48

next day then, on March 18th, Micah posted

30:50

a video encouraging others. She

30:52

says, quote, I'm just making sure

30:54

my heart doesn't have any unforgiveness,

30:56

bitterness, resentment, just forgiveness and hope

30:58

for the future, and peace.

31:01

But then, on March 22nd, Micah posts

31:04

another video. In this one, she's

31:06

suggesting that she was being abused

31:08

physically and mentally. She also

31:10

says, quote, God hates divorce, but how

31:13

does God feel about abuse? She

31:15

also suggests that her husband forced her

31:17

to take illegal drugs. Now, what

31:19

sticks out to me with this, again, just my

31:22

opinion, is this was just what? Five

31:24

days after his sermon when

31:26

he's saying that the Bible says divorce is wrong,

31:28

and that if she wanted out, she would have

31:30

to leave him after he had found

31:33

her and how the divorce papers were drawn up,

31:35

all that stuff. So then, for five days later,

31:37

for her to say, yes, God hates divorce, but

31:39

how does he feel about abuse? I

31:41

feel it's just painting a very

31:43

clear picture of what's going

31:46

on in this marriage, at least to me. And again,

31:48

I just want I know I've said it before, but

31:50

I'm going to reiterate, it does not mean he's a

31:52

murderer. But it does show that

31:55

there's some sort of manipulation, some sort

31:57

of level of mental control, mental abuse,

31:59

at least So

32:02

this was on March 22nd, fast forward

32:04

about three weeks to April 16th. Micah

32:07

filed for spousal support. Then

32:10

about a week later on April 23rd, a

32:12

hearing notice was sent out for Micah's request

32:14

for spousal support and a court date was

32:16

set for June 5th. But

32:19

then, just five days later, Micah is

32:21

found dead. So

32:23

with all of that, it certainly paints

32:25

a troubling picture, right? And

32:27

many people, of course, rightfully so,

32:29

are wondering what really happened to

32:31

Micah. Well, on

32:33

May 6th, 2024, Micah's official

32:35

cause of death was ruled

32:38

as a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

32:40

According to Robeson County Medical Examiner

32:43

Dr. Richard Johnson, based

32:45

on the nature of the wound, it is

32:47

consistent with a self-inflicted gunshot wound, and it

32:49

was not in the back of the head

32:51

as it has been speculated. According to

32:53

WPDE News, the medical examiner said that

32:56

although he wasn't the on-call medical examiner

32:58

when Micah died, he was present at

33:00

the scene. But just like so

33:03

many things so far in this case,

33:05

this new information came with more questions

33:07

than answers. Additionally, Micah's friends and family

33:09

do not believe the medical examiner's findings.

33:12

So then on May 7th, 2024, the

33:14

911 call was released. And this call

33:16

is very heartbreaking and difficult to listen

33:18

to because in it, you can hear

33:21

Micah ask the dispatcher if they're

33:23

able to track her phone. After a couple

33:25

of minutes, the woman asks why, and she

33:27

says, because I'm about to kill myself and

33:29

I want my family to know where to

33:31

find me. And then the line

33:33

goes dead. Robeson

33:35

County 911, what's the address of your

33:37

emergency? Hi. Are

33:42

you able to trace the location

33:44

of my phone? Let

33:50

me see. You

33:52

don't know where you're at. And

33:54

National Park. I

33:57

have my location on, I think, on my phone.

34:00

Find my phone is on. I

34:04

just did my show on my location. Okay,

34:07

I'm showing... I

34:09

don't think you are

34:11

in Robinson County. Yeah,

34:14

Lumber River State Park? Yeah,

34:17

that's where I am. Tell

34:19

me what's happened. Um...

34:25

I'm about to kill

34:27

myself. And... I

34:31

just want my family to know where to find me. Okay,

34:34

ma'am. Just

34:37

listen to what I'm saying, okay? Let

34:41

me make sure I got the exact location where

34:43

you're at, okay? Just one minute. Shortly

34:46

after this call was made public, the sheriff's

34:48

office also made a post on Facebook that

34:50

was public. And in it, they

34:52

discussed the 911 call about how

34:54

it went to the dispatcher's office and if

34:57

the call could be traced, all of these things. And

34:59

then they go through the timeline of events after

35:02

they recovered her body. They

35:04

said that investigators located a SIG

35:07

gun case on the passenger seat of the vehicle and

35:10

a box of ammunition in the center console of

35:12

the vehicle. They also found a

35:14

receipt for that SIG handgun from a pawn

35:16

shop and a receipt from a convenience store.

35:19

Those receipts were both in the vehicle and both receipts

35:21

were dated from the same day of Micah's death, which

35:23

was April 27th, 2024. During

35:27

the search of the park for Micah when they

35:29

knew that the 911 call had come in, the

35:33

investigators were approached by an

35:35

individual who had found a bag near

35:37

the water edge with an identification belonging

35:39

to Micah. The individual stated

35:41

that he had heard somebody crying and

35:43

a gunshot while he was fishing. Shortly

35:45

after, a body was located in the

35:48

water and the victim was identified as

35:50

Micah Miller. The SIG 9mm

35:52

handgun was also located in the water at the

35:54

crime scene during that initial search of the area.

35:57

Her phone and her other personal belongings were found

35:59

in the water. were also located

36:01

and there was a search of Micah's

36:03

phone which revealed that she had conducted

36:05

a Google search for national parks near

36:08

me and then the Lumber

36:10

River State Park location was provided.

36:12

So the investigators conducted several interviews

36:14

and they developed a timeline of

36:16

events in relation to Micah's death.

36:18

That morning at 11 a.m. Micah

36:21

was observed on her ring camera

36:23

arriving at her residence in Myrtle

36:25

Beach, South Carolina. About 40 minutes

36:27

later at 11 38

36:29

she was observed again on her ring camera leaving

36:32

her residence. At 12 12 p.m.

36:34

she was observed on store surveillance walking

36:36

into a Dix pawn shop which is

36:38

also located in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

36:40

A minute later she's observed

36:43

at the register and she initiates the

36:45

purchase of that gun. Then at

36:47

12 34 Micah is observed leaving

36:50

the pawn shop after purchasing the

36:52

gun and the ammunition. At 106

36:54

p.m. her Honda Accord is observed

36:56

traveling on Highway 501

36:59

near Four Mile Road in South Carolina.

37:02

Then 20 minutes later at 127 it's

37:04

observed arriving at a grocery

37:06

and grill located in Mullen,

37:08

South Carolina. At

37:11

135 p.m. Micah is observed leaving

37:13

the store after purchasing a drink

37:15

and gas. Then at 254 p.m.

37:18

Micah makes that 911 call. In

37:20

the post the investigators also say

37:22

unfortunately rumors and conspiracy theories were

37:25

spreading quickly and assumptions were being

37:27

made. However in the end they

37:29

must make the decisions based on the

37:31

fact and the evidence that has been gathered.

37:33

They say while we know it's not what

37:35

many people wanted to hear the evidence is

37:38

quite clear and compelling and we are as

37:40

saddened as anyone that this occurred. There are

37:42

many factors that we have reviewed that occurred

37:44

over an extended period of time that are

37:46

probably related to the reason for this investigation

37:48

but in the end sadly

37:50

a tragic decision was made by Micah

37:52

that ended her life. They

37:55

also shared some still frames of the

37:57

CCTV of her of the footage of

37:59

her the gun of her driving of

38:01

her getting gas and it's

38:03

a really really incredibly heartbreaking guys.

38:07

Many people thought that her husband John

38:09

Paul was guilty this whole time that

38:11

it was some elaborate cover-up or that

38:13

he staged the scene flawlessly but that's

38:16

clearly not the case but the reason I

38:19

wanted to share this is because we did

38:21

hear so many different accounts from friends and

38:23

family and from Micah herself that

38:25

there was some sort of element

38:27

of mental abuse emotional

38:30

abuse things that

38:32

may have led her down this dark path

38:34

of mental health we know that her husband

38:36

is the one who allegedly committed her to

38:39

the mental health facility but

38:41

my question here is although

38:43

he's in my opinion not guilty of

38:45

murder of course and it's pretty clear-cut it

38:48

does make me wonder what's on the

38:50

talks report because in that video from

38:52

Micah herself she does allude to being

38:54

said illegal drugs and we know that

38:56

she had a tracking device found on

38:58

her car all of these things that

39:01

are really close to a level of

39:03

control and emotional and manipulation and things

39:05

like that so again

39:07

not to theorize too much but could

39:10

it be possible that if she was

39:12

being fed some sort of drugs that

39:14

is what also magnified and amplified these

39:17

mental health issues that she

39:19

was struggling with when did the mental

39:21

health struggles begin was it recent what's

39:23

the history there because could

39:25

it be that there are other

39:27

contributing factors that put her into this

39:29

hyper paranoid state and the state of

39:32

feeling like there was no other option

39:34

no other escape from his grasp nothing

39:36

else to do and

39:38

I'm not saying that in a way

39:40

to victim shame him he is a grieving husband

39:42

I would assume but again

39:45

the whole point of today's episode is

39:47

to just illustrate what really can go

39:49

on in some of these domestic marriages

39:52

where there's these issues where there's a

39:54

history of abuse whether it's physical emotional

39:56

mental whatever it may be what

39:58

are the signs we can look for to where doesn't end

40:00

in a tragic result like this.

40:03

And what does that talks report say?

40:05

Maybe it says nothing, but maybe it

40:07

does say something. And maybe there is

40:09

a reason for, I mean, nobody's tires

40:11

get slashed for no reason. Nobody has

40:13

a tracker put on their car for

40:15

no reason, unless she was struggling so

40:17

significantly when met with mental health that

40:20

she did that on her own and that she

40:22

was, maybe there's an element of schizophrenia. I don't

40:24

know, guys, I'm just trying to make sense of

40:26

it. I know so many other people are. Is

40:28

there something that contributed to putting

40:30

her in this mental state, to

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where she felt like there was no other way out?

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It's just so definitive that she wakes up one

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morning, goes into this pawn shop, buys the gun,

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goes, makes the call because she wants her family

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to find her. It is devastating

40:44

and so extremely

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tragic. Of course, no charges have

40:49

been made at this time. And I

40:51

don't believe that they will be against the

40:53

husband, but I do wonder what other information

40:55

will surface, if any. So I probably

40:57

won't cover this case again, unless there is

40:59

new information, but if there is, I definitely

41:02

will keep you updated. But in

41:04

the meantime, let's just all keep Micah's friends

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and families in your thoughts and prayers, and

41:08

just hope that anybody else struggling like this

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gets the help that they need. I will

41:13

leave some resources in the show notes below,

41:15

and let's just pray that her family

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gets some, not closure, but some peace

41:19

maybe. But in the meantime, let's just pray

41:21

that everybody who was close to Micah

41:23

gets some peace in all of this. And I'll

41:25

let you know if we hear more. All

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right, guys, thanks again for tuning into this

41:30

bonus episode of Serialously. Let me know what

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you guys think. Do you think there's more

41:35

to the story? Do you think this is

41:37

pretty cut and dry? Again,

41:39

I'm not trying to go too crazy, too

41:41

conspiracy, too down the rabbit hole,

41:43

but I think that maybe there

41:45

are other factors and

41:47

circumstances that contributed to her mental health. But

41:50

let me know what you guys think, because I

41:52

know that there are a lot of differing opinions

41:54

out there. All right, guys, thanks

41:56

for tuning into this episode, and until the next

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one, please, please, please stay. Bye. This

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is the smell of a warm three-day-old egg

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salad sandwich in a wimpy trash bag.

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Whippy, wippy, wippy! Bleh!

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with new Fabuloso lemon scent. It smells

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like clean, freshly picked lemons. So no

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matter what's inside your trash, you can

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