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This is Sex, Lies and spray Tands

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with Me Cheryl Burke and iHeartRadio

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podcast. Our guest today

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is an entertainment host and journalist who is a

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familiar face when it comes to the press line we

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do after the live tapings on the set

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of Dancing with the Stars. My guest

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co host can be found on the biggest red carpet

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premieres or even dancing with Katie Perry backstage

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at American Idol. And no, he's not a shark.

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He covers the hottest Hollywood news not

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only for us here in the US, but also all

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of Australia. Please join me and

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welcoming Dean McCarthy to the

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show. Okay, let's get to it, shall

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we. Chris and Cavill Larry. Okay,

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so we've got skincare experts

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react to her claim that she doesn't

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wear sunscreen and guess what, I don't

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either.

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Yeah, I'm not into it.

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So here's the thing, right, you're Australian,

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I get it.

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This is the thing.

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So we all grew up in Australia and

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it's like so crazy, but now people

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take them so as much more serious. But I used to work in a tanning

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sellon like I literally worked in a spry

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tanning.

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My ass is currently burnt from because

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I found a tanning birth not too far

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from my new place and it took

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me forever to find it, and I'm proud of

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it.

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Yeah, they're like, they're they're not even legal in Australia

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anymore, Like it's so different.

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So she but I love a

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spray.

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Tn No, I don't. First of all, who has time

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to go? Let me tan my front

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and then hold on, let me just wait another hour

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and tan my back.

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Totally totally keep on the girl Spray's

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have a raise sprays ever raised babes.

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But Sir Christ's Cavalia's come out like and it's it's really

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caused a lot of upset because she's come out saying, like,

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you know, I don't use sunstring. And then she gets this

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doctor on the show, right, he looks twelve

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like she looks like she went just like one of the schools

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nearby picked him up in the car.

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Came for a boyfriend? Is her boyfriend?

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I'm kidding, it's

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her boyfriend's bread.

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He comes in, He's wearing a hat, which I thought was

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hilariously ironic, and he's on the show and he's

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like, look, you know people like one hundred

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years ago, I never had sunscreen like whatever,

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and everyone's like, uh, people one hundred years

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ago lived with there were thirty.

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Well, first of all, yeah, what are we doing what?

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Like that's crazy. But I think it's

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different for everyone. It's hereditary, right,

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Like my mother is Filipina. It's

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hot in the Philippines, like all year

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round. It's never not hot,

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right, like it's humid, it's gross. I think it

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just matters about that. I think like should

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I be better? Yes? But do people need to come

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after people that don't work sunse screen? No, my

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body, my choice.

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We're gonna move on because that's basically

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just what the story was, right like, and I feel

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bad for for christ And I mean, like, look,

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who cares if I mean honestly, people

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need to get out of people's business, Like she's sharing

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a story, no need for the haters.

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Yes, Simone Biles, she was

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on call her Daddy. Did you listen to that interview?

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Yeah, I've heard most of it. Here's what

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happens.

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So she's gone on there and Simon's a

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good get right, that's a really good interview because she

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is not oh yeah, tell alls right,

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And Alex asked

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about, you know, the twenty twenty Olympics

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when she was in Tokyo, and she described

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how she had what was called the the

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articles.

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Twisty's, twisty's, twisty's.

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You're up in the air, you're spinning and you

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literally lose body and mind

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connection and you literally don't know

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where you are or how you are going to land. And

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she landed the one when she was doing the routine

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and she stopped, and that's when she was like, I

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just got the twisties like this.

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It's terrifying. They're so high and so fast

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you could break you can break your neck, like as.

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You know, no, I mean I do this.

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I got them when I was born dancing. You don't

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have to be a gymnasty at the twists.

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Yeah, that's it.

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And so like she has confessed that this was

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really freaked her out and so she pulled out of

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the rest of the comp which is like so

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good for her safety, so important for her

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mental health, and that she described on the episode

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how she honestly felt like she was going to

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come back to America and they would be like, like,

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band, do you know what I mean.

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Do you remember when this was happening, when Pierce

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Morgan was so mortified by

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her making a decision to put herself

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first, basically calling Simone

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Biles out saying, what a freaking like

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loser. You don't do that, You don't put

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yourself first? How dare you?

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He?

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I remember, I actually had forgotten about

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It was so gross and such a low blow, and

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you don't.

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Where to god he got canceled out for that, Like I haven't heard

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from him much. Put it that way, Yeah.

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He actually probably deserve to be canceled well.

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Like honestly though, like I understand,

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but like, hello, mental health, this is the

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problem. It's a different generation, right, Like that's

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the generation where mental health they're like what

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like but now they all have mental health

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issues because of it, because it's like you need

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to that is the number one priority.

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It doesn't matter what else. Everything else follows,

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even your physical health. If your mental

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health is not intact, how the hell are

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you going to get to the gym, for example, Like there's no

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way that's.

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It exactly, And then let alone perform

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upside down three times in the air at high

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speed in front of the entire world of the Olympics.

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Like, so I looked up the definition

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because it is like they also get this. It's called the

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yips in baseball or golf,

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one of the two, or maybe it's both for both sports,

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but it's And the reason why I said

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I got it was because I it's basically

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a psychological defect

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in a way where the chemistry of your brain

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at that point, it's like you're psyching yourself out

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right. So and when that happens

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and you don't feel one hundred percent confident. And this is what

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I mean by putting your mental health first

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is so vital that,

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like you know, a lot of the stuff these Olympians

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do, they basically

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are just like by far

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beating odds that like a normal human

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may not be able to do right, it would take years

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to train. But a lot of it's mental.

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A lot of it's mental. Like I'll never forget

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my arm was hanging on by a thread

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during a live show that I was doing in

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Tokyo, Japan when I did a life

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stage show there with a bunch of Olympian skaters,

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and I was this close

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to having to get surgery. And then this

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like Japanese guy

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who came in and he did a bunch of those what

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are the needles? Thing called the puncture,

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It is acupuncture, And he said to me on these

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three words, it's all mental. And

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when he said that, it was so powerful

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that I was able to do the show. And then obviously

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I never got surgery, like I healed

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it in a holistic way. Mind you,

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it wasn't just those words, but it was those words,

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like, because it really is just mental, right.

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Totally healing, one hundred percent healing

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everything, everything is mental.

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Actually that really where So

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the twisties is defined as an external

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factor, like stress may disrupt these

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patterns by activating the fight or flight

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response or by causing the athlete to

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disassociate from their

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bodies. Now, I'm very familiar with disassociating

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because that has a lot to do with trauma, right,

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So like when you've dealt with trauma, in

6:46

order for you to survive, and like, all

6:48

you can do is think your body, right, because really

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it's you're in fight, flight or freeze, and so disassociating

6:54

is what happens. So you don't have to feel

6:56

it all because I don't for any

6:58

type of person who's been through trauma, doesn't matter

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a little to your big ta you just

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can't face it at that moment, So you're actually

7:05

your body, your physical body is saving

7:07

you from having a full on mental breakdown

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basically, And this is crazy.

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She went through that in the middle of the air, in

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front of the whole world, Like, how could anyone

7:16

give her a hard time about wanting to get the hell out of it? She

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said she would have called the next floor time if she could.

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And I have to say, though, she inspired

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the shit out of me because she's a woman now in my

7:26

eyes, who's not just a preacher, right,

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she practices what she preaches, and

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I hope and it just makes her more normal

7:33

that she felt like this, Like there's no way that she wasn't

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going to feel a lot of shame and guilt. But

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I think her talking about it in general hence

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why I'm so open in general, because it

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takes the shame away. It really does when

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you just say it out.

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Loud, yepcent.

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And what's so interesting about her is like she's now obviously

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back in the game and she's performing and she's

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out there in the world. Whereas I know a lot of athletes, like

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there's a very famous Australian athlete. When she ran

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in the two thousand Olympics, she won, actually, Kathy

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Fraemer, oh wow, yea never again,

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never ever ever went on the

8:03

track again because the mental the pressure

8:06

of the entire countries watching

8:08

her and staring at her, and she ended up winning, walking

8:10

to her hotel room, close the door, slid

8:13

down the back of the door, and never ever ran again. And like, I

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think a lot of athletes can't even handle

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a lot of people can't handle like that type of pressure.

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So I love someone for just like.

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Owning it, sharing her journey with everyone,

8:23

inspiring the world, and then getting back on the horse,

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like.

8:26

She's that is she in the Olympics.

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She's back, right, she's back, She's back, She's

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been training.

8:30

She that's crazy.

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Yeah.

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One of the things she talked about is like how difficult

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it would be too, and you'd be able to speak

8:36

more to this of course, is like how do you have

8:38

an experience like getting the twisties and

8:41

then then getting

8:44

back into the zone and not

8:46

fearing that that's going to happen again.

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So my forum of the twisties was when I messed

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up on my own choreography because in my voices,

8:53

in my head and my Joe is being

8:55

flipped and all of that, and I was like, oh, I'm not going to I'm

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not going to be able to do this. He's not going to clear it, and

8:59

then started getting louder. So I've done I

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did twenty six seasons, right, so I've had twenty four

9:03

partters on Dancing Ways Stars. But there was

9:05

moments like with William Levy there was this one trick

9:07

and I just kept psyching myself it's

9:10

really that right, and it's like

9:12

to the point where it overtakes I mean

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for me, I guess that's my definition. It's not like

9:17

it's not black and white. However, when

9:19

we were doing a trick, I remember live dancing

9:22

like live, and I was like, we're not going to make

9:24

it. There's no way, and we didn't.

9:26

Oh my gosh.

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And we never did not make it, you know what I'm saying, Like

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we always nailed it. But then it's psychological,

9:32

Yeah, did.

9:33

You would that? Would it suck you when you were given the

9:35

pod? Now?

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Like you would have to suck yourself into it because

9:38

obviously some wouldn't be as strong and feet and

9:40

as adultable.

9:40

Then I wouldn't do tricks though, like that, and

9:43

I don't. I don't. I don't risk my life

9:45

for like someone who can't even understand

9:48

how to spin me or just lift up

9:50

his own arm, let alone, like you

9:52

know, because it is dangerous, like KIMMI

9:55

got injured a lot.

9:56

That's right, that's right.

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It's no joke. No, really, it's no joke.

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Like one wrong move you're done,

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like done, paralyzed or whatever,

10:05

God forbid, you know, anyway,

10:07

more power to Simone, I think the more she talks

10:09

about this, like none of us have ever heard this

10:11

before, Like I didn't know that what Twisty's word

10:13

till she said that word.

10:15

Literally, I can't even think of another Olympian

10:17

level athlete that's eva

10:19

and explained. I mean, like this is really about my mental

10:22

health. I can't go through and even though this is going

10:24

to cause me even extra

10:26

trauma, probably I can't go through. Ye.

10:28

But she's a hero. Honestly, what a great

10:30

example. Carrion

10:40

and Nava. She wrote actually

10:42

a beautiful I guess

10:44

it was like a tribute, right like to Len

10:46

a year after his death. It's been his

10:49

first anniversary of his death. I cannot

10:51

believe it's been a year and

10:53

basically her tribute

10:56

was said this working

10:58

with Len was always a pleasure. He was an

11:00

elegant man with a mischievous smile

11:02

who loved life to the fullest, and

11:04

he lived his life to the fullest. Len was

11:06

always doing something. He was making plans,

11:08

attending social events, going

11:11

out to dinner, playing golf with friends, or getting

11:13

a great manicure, and everything he did he loved.

11:16

He just loved it. He also loved to discover

11:18

new music and always had the coolest playlist.

11:21

He'd play songs you've never heard before that

11:23

were wonderful. And I'll always

11:25

remember Len with a little skip in his step

11:27

and a twinkle in his eye. What I

11:29

miss most about him is that right before every

11:31

show we would all hold hands. Len,

11:33

Bruno and I, the three of us would always take a

11:36

moment before every show to connect. We'd

11:38

hold hands, we'd look into each other's eyes,

11:40

and we would wish each other good luck and

11:42

say I love you. We never missed doing

11:45

that, not once in all the years of doing the shows

11:47

we did together, and this created such a deep

11:49

connection between the three of us. Lend and I

11:51

would disagree, which was often since we came

11:53

from such different dance backgrounds,

11:56

and that's what makes the judging panel unique.

11:59

But when we disagree, what people don't know

12:01

is that during commercial breaks, there'd always

12:03

be a pat on the back, a laugh or a smile.

12:06

We'd always give each other. We just had a very

12:08

strong camaraderie and we knew that

12:10

we were always in it together, whether or not

12:12

we were on the same page at that moment. First

12:15

of all, that's what's missing is the camaraderie

12:17

between the judges. There's no longer camaraderie.

12:20

Yeah, you can speak. So what was it like when the

12:22

cameras went off? It was like that.

12:24

It was this Oh when I was there, Yes, absolutely,

12:26

yes, it was like that because there was

12:28

a Listen. Len

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was prospected by every being

12:33

in that ballroom. Right, He

12:35

is a ballroom or was a ballroom judge,

12:37

and he judged all of us since we were little kids.

12:40

We know that whatever he says, he

12:42

says short and sweet, but you better listen

12:45

right now because

12:47

there's some truth to it. It's not just for TV he's

12:49

putting up. This is who he was. That's who he was.

12:51

There was nothing he never put it on like that's Len

12:53

Goodman. Now, the

12:56

three of them though it was so special, like

12:58

it really was, because it's like they also

13:00

bonded, especially lenn and Bruno when they

13:02

would fly over to Strictly Come Dancing, the other

13:05

version of Dancing with the Stars in England where

13:07

it started, and so they would fly back and forth.

13:09

They were best friends, these two, even though it may not seem

13:11

like it, but I did read an article

13:13

recently that Bruno or Carrion may have said

13:16

that the only person he told from

13:18

the show was Bruno that he had camp bone cancer.

13:20

I think, oh my goodness,

13:23

he was right. He was so respected.

13:24

I mean, Queen Consort Camilla like

13:27

release a tribute when he passed.

13:29

Like he was international special.

13:32

It's so special, so special.

13:34

They just no bullshit attitude, you know. So

13:37

what do you think of the current judging panel on

13:39

Dancing with the Stars.

13:41

It's missing the land. It's missing that.

13:43

No one will replace him, but nobody will,

13:45

right, That's.

13:46

I think that was it. You actually mentioned it before, Like

13:49

it was that level of prospect,

13:51

experience, respect. He was taken

13:53

so seriously.

13:54

Everything he didn't have to grant and carry on to

13:56

get air time. He would just say

13:58

what he said and it was always accurate. Almost always

14:01

accurate and everyone seriously, he wasn't

14:03

just trying to get Instagram was constructive.

14:06

That's the thing, absolutely absolutely,

14:08

I agree.

14:10

Yeah, and I think that's I think that's the part that's missing. It's

14:12

funny though, when when you mentioned camaraderie, like you

14:15

can as a viewer, right, you

14:17

can feel it, like you can feel

14:20

and you can tell when the is

14:23

legit and when they really are connected

14:25

or when they're just three people wanting to get five million

14:28

bucks a year or whatever it is, you know what I mean. Like we

14:30

I work on American Idol and the three judges

14:32

Katie Perry, Lana Ritchie and Luke Bryan are

14:35

so tight.

14:36

They're like, oh they're friends. I've

14:38

never seen so tight.

14:40

The three of them are so close. They've got a little group

14:42

WhatsApp and they they're like family,

14:45

and you can feel it. But when we can

14:47

also tell those shows when the judges are

14:49

literally just trying to get the paycheck or they've

14:51

got no experience in the area and they're

14:53

just getting there the million bucks.

15:04

Zin Daya has gone on Jimmy Kimmel.

15:06

This is so brilliant. So Zendaya has gone on Jimmy Kimmele.

15:09

He has explained that he actually would

15:11

bet and like he actually bets on

15:13

who's going to win the show every year.

15:15

And I don't even know if he's allowed to do.

15:16

That, but I mean he's

15:19

bet on me too and he's lost. So he

15:21

didn't mention that well he won.

15:24

He must have bet at Gains of Day because he won twelve

15:26

thousand dollars in her season.

15:27

Jimmy Kimmel told me, we so that

15:30

used to be the show that we would do after we would

15:32

get the boot right. So it was like me and Iron

15:34

Zerring, I believe, we went to Jimmy Kimmel,

15:37

we did the rounds, and then Jimmy during commercial

15:39

break told me in my ear that because

15:41

I had one back to back, his money was on me.

15:44

But we didn't even make the spinal right, So

15:46

he goes, god damn it. And I'm like, first

15:48

of all, I'm sorry you lost your money,

15:51

but like that's you're bad that you

15:53

thought that we were going to win. But he does do

15:55

this, this is a ritual. But like, so there's a

15:57

bunch of sights though that there's like

15:59

derb, there's like people in Vegas really

16:01

do place a lot of beds on people, yeah,

16:04

on like before as soon as the

16:06

cast is announced, they go crazy. People

16:08

go crazy.

16:09

That's what he does. He said.

16:10

The second he knows, like he second he sees the cast,

16:12

he places like a bid, like ten eleven

16:15

thousand dollars bid.

16:15

And I have a photo with Zendaya

16:19

And I was like, I'm going to get a photo with her. This

16:21

will be amazing Instagram. I look like a rat.

16:23

I think she's the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen. Like I look

16:25

like a little wine barrel next to her, Like,

16:28

she's.

16:28

So beautiful, She's so amazing.

16:31

Would you think that Dancing with the Stars kind of

16:33

helped her?

16:34

I think so, yeah, for sure, absolutely, And

16:37

you know, and what I love about the show is that, like people

16:39

really get to know you guys, and so

16:42

you get to connect in such a deeper

16:44

way. And I just think that actually it really

16:46

does help their careers, and it certainly helped her, as I.

16:48

Think, yeah, especially if you've got the right team behind you.

16:50

It doesn't help everyone, but it has helped like Mario

16:52

Lolpez like there's a lot of people, you

16:55

know, Yeah, absolutely,

16:57

Iron Zerring.

16:58

Yes.

17:00

So the headline why Tory spelling,

17:02

says iron z earrings. Dating suggestions

17:05

felt like the most offensive thing amid

17:08

divorce. She's actually here in NAPO doing this.

17:10

She was here last night. I actually we took a few picks

17:12

together, but I

17:15

like, I don't know, did you read this article?

17:17

It's interesting digres. So she got

17:19

ahead.

17:20

Yeah, yeah, so she hadn't actually seen

17:22

him in a while, and she caught up with like a lot of the casts

17:24

at this event. And when when

17:26

they caught up, she had, you know, recently become

17:29

single or been single since she saw them

17:31

last. And so Ian was like, so you know now

17:33

that you're single, like if you tried any like dating apps,

17:36

and she was like so offended, like an

17:38

insulted about like this dating app

17:40

suggestion. But the truth is he's like, you

17:42

know, it's twenty twenty four, Like people use

17:44

dating apps, and there's like dating apps for people that

17:46

are really high prepfer like Riya, you know. And

17:49

so he was kind of like like get

17:51

into it. And I don't know whether she ever moved forward

17:53

with doing it, but.

17:54

Like, yeah, I've never done a dating

17:56

app, nor will I ever really

17:59

Yeah, calm me a dinosaur all you want, but

18:01

now thanks, I will.

18:03

Say that, I've met some pretty cool people on Raya. I'll

18:05

say that.

18:05

Really, yeah, so you're

18:07

active.

18:08

I'm on Riyah.

18:09

Yeah, I went on Tinder and all that kind of thing. They're really boring,

18:11

but Riya is kind of cool.

18:13

What do you mean by boring? Educate

18:17

me?

18:17

Okay, so I that's a great

18:20

race. What do you like

18:22

Tinder?

18:23

Like everyone it's it's like there's thousands

18:25

of people like you could swipe all day, every

18:27

day.

18:27

Whatever, and that's boring. Yeah.

18:30

I kind of you're like, oh, there's too

18:32

many options. Does it get overwhelming? Maybe

18:34

maybe maybe the word needs to be Oh

18:36

is it overwhelming? Is it like going to

18:38

a store. It's just like.

18:40

There's there's just like you were saying.

18:42

Before, quality, they're not famous. Is that what

18:44

you mean?

18:47

Come on, come on, well,

18:49

I will say that. I will

18:51

say that. I

18:53

will exactly. I get

18:55

excited like

18:59

people that are like really well known and that that are on

19:01

there. I find that's kind of cool, Like.

19:02

Oh no, and they have money that's

19:05

important for you, you know like at the end.

19:08

Yeah, yeah.

19:09

The problem with the writer is like international,

19:11

like people are like in like like overseas

19:14

and stuff, which is kind of you match with someone in there in

19:16

Mexico City and you're like, might be

19:18

going right, Will I ever see you? But yeah,

19:20

I see both sides, Like it's great for people to be

19:22

able to connect to who wouldn't normally be able to meet

19:24

one hundred people in a day. But there's no

19:26

sex of feel and it's and it's icy. It's

19:29

not like there's no chemistry.

19:30

Isn't it awkward though? Like is it awkward? Like

19:33

when you're like, okay, well you both like each other

19:35

and then you actually meet, is

19:37

it like what is the what are your feelings

19:39

going through your body actually for the first two

19:41

seconds?

19:42

Yeah, so it is awkward, And I think

19:44

that, like people need to not do the big commitments,

19:47

so you would just do a coffee or like or

19:49

like me FaceTime, FaceTime

19:51

good call good God.

19:54

Or just do not get through

19:57

this wall or scream. But

19:59

by the way, that is still crazy.

20:01

This is all crazy. Like honestly, I'd like, I

20:03

know I'm a homebody, and i know I'm

20:05

not gonna meet anyone buying my closet doors.

20:08

However, when I'm ready, I would like to meet

20:10

somebody in old fashioned weight, Like there's nothing

20:12

wrong with like a little human connection once in a

20:14

while, god forbid, and.

20:16

Just putting it out there, like even just out in your life, like ye're

20:18

just chatting to people or whatever.

20:19

Are you single?

20:21

I am single right now? Yeah.

20:23

To Rayah, I'm

20:25

like, I'm actively

20:27

trying to date. They're like I'm dating people and

20:30

going on dates and seeing how it goes. And I'll always

20:32

make the first move, like I always like, I'll

20:34

but plan the first date and then maybe I'll

20:36

plan the second date.

20:37

But then I just kind of like.

20:38

Step back and see if they're going to put in any effort,

20:40

and if they don't, I'm like, oh, but that's kind of how.

20:42

Ipped Okay, We're

20:44

gonna move on. Would you like to take over this one because

20:46

I think the questions directed at me.

20:49

Yes, You've had a big week.

20:50

You're in like I'm

20:53

on a loft the radio shows every day around the world

20:55

and you are the story of

20:57

the week.

20:58

Now it's so slow.

21:02

Obviously you've done that your podcast with TJ and Amy

21:04

and lots of different things that come out of the podcast

21:06

and as headliners. One of the headlines

21:08

that is sort of circling

21:10

is around like the feeling of you know, your

21:13

art have been always been very successful, and

21:16

there was obviously period when you were married that you were like

21:18

the breadwinner, and I just wanted to kind of like

21:20

delve into that, like what was that experience like for you?

21:23

And is that moving forward? Is that something

21:25

that you don't want to be or

21:27

do you care or does it matter like and

21:29

how did that affect the dynamic?

21:32

No, I hear you totally, and I will answer your question.

21:34

I'm just curious as to like because there's so many different

21:37

Like there's people like why is she bragging? So there's

21:39

the gender thing that's bothering me, right,

21:41

like why can't women like

21:43

by the way, I was only answering a question

21:45

that was being asked of me because I am being

21:48

the interviewee, right, So it's like they

21:50

weren't on my podcast. I was on their podcast,

21:52

and all of their questions were directed at

21:54

stuff that the headlines have

21:56

printed out about me before, which we were going to talk

21:59

more about in the next episode.

22:01

Actually, instead of me interviewing someone, I'm going to clear

22:03

the air because there was a lot of things that were taken out

22:05

of context because

22:08

everyone thinks I'm now bragging about my riches

22:10

like that is ridiculous. It's ridiculous

22:13

because all I said was I can't. What

22:15

I learned most from my marriage was the fact

22:17

that I cannot buy love.

22:20

Then they asked me to explain more, and

22:22

so I did. And this

22:25

has nothing to do with my ex whatsoever.

22:27

It has everything to do with what I learned. I'm going

22:30

back to the question that was asked of me, and maybe it

22:32

was shocking because I had never said that, but

22:34

there's a lot of stuff in my life that I've never said.

22:36

Now, if you're a great journalist,

22:39

like these two are great journalists, this is what they do

22:41

for a living. They're going to get stuff out of me that most

22:43

likely you haven't heard because they know how to ask a question,

22:46

right, Like really, I mean, if you really

22:48

do your research, there's ways of asking people.

22:51

And then I'm an open book and I've got really

22:53

nothing to hide, to be quite honest. And I think

22:55

that's shocking maybe to a lot of people, but teach

22:58

their own. All I know is that this is my truth.

23:01

I don't know if I could handle someone taking care of

23:03

me. I'm going through this in therapy

23:05

currently, where it's like I'm trying to I'm

23:08

trying first of all to be able

23:10

to accept being taken care

23:12

of. Yeah, and I

23:15

think that there is this

23:17

well was not odd because my mom's a businesswoman.

23:19

She's also very successful. There's a pattern. However,

23:24

my mother grew up in poverty, so like

23:26

when she met my dad, she was

23:28

being taken care of, and then when they got a divorce,

23:31

her and my stepdad. So it's like an interesting

23:33

dynamic.

23:35

Yea.

23:35

What I love to get to the point where I feel

23:37

like I can just be taken care

23:40

of, yes, but I'll never stop working.

23:42

Being taken care of doesn't mean money. I don't mean

23:44

it by like that. I mean it by like somebody who's so

23:46

confident that they are

23:49

just a support system whatever that

23:51

means. Don't know, you know, they.

23:53

Don't have to make a big it's not about the check, it's

23:56

not about these I can take care of you.

23:57

It's really good nothing. They're not even connected really.

24:00

They're connected to them. They're they're

24:02

busy about like being the best person

24:04

that they can. I've never been in a relationship like that,

24:06

so I don't know, Like it's so hard

24:08

to say. I think that until

24:10

I fix what's broken inside of me with

24:13

me fixing me not anything

24:16

outside of myself. Then

24:18

I will be a different picker, you know what I mean.

24:20

But until then, this is why I'm choosing to be single,

24:22

because also I'm just gonna fall into the same freaking

24:24

pattern and then I'm dead. Like literally, we're all gonna

24:26

die, right. So I was like, at the end of the day, why

24:29

experience this same thing over and over again?

24:32

I think the fact that you have nailed that and you already

24:34

know that is like step watch.

24:36

Yeah, you know what, when you're ready, you'll be able

24:38

to get back out there.

24:39

But for now, you're You've got a very busy and successful

24:41

career. You got plenty on your plight.

24:43

I would love a little balance like that is my

24:45

goal as I'm turning forty. Yeah,

24:48

thank you so much, You're enjoy

24:51

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24:53

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24:55

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