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Friendship, Disappointment & Spicy Noods: A Just Noodling Experiment

Friendship, Disappointment & Spicy Noods: A Just Noodling Experiment

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Friendship, Disappointment & Spicy Noods: A Just Noodling Experiment

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Kimberly,

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I'm thinking about so many things. Do

0:32

you want to just noodle? I

0:36

would love to just noodle.

0:39

Sweet friends. I am here with one

0:41

of my number one noodle friends, and

0:43

to be clear, number one noodle friend

0:46

is not like my best friend, like

0:48

the one. Hi noodle

0:51

friends, we're noodling again. So

0:53

today we have some ramen from

0:56

Silver Lake Ramen. They're not sponsoring this, although I wish they would.

0:58

I didn't tell them what I was doing because I

1:01

guess because I'm embarrassed. Do we pour the broth in?

1:03

How do we make it happen? So I have- I

1:05

think we should pour the broth in. What did I

1:07

get? Blaze? I have Blaze. You got Blaze. And I'm

1:10

blazing. Hi noodle friends. Yeah. So today we're just noodling.

1:12

Our topics of noodles first are, what

1:14

did I call it? Disappointment. What did I say on the

1:16

phone? Sad

1:18

librations. Sad librations. So we're

1:21

here with some sad librations today

1:23

because X stories officially got denied

1:25

from, like we've been waiting

1:27

for over three months to find out an answer

1:29

from megaphone. I thought it was going to be

1:31

a viable financial option. So we're, we're,

1:33

we're in noodle mode. We're here to talk about

1:35

maybe love stories. Is there going to be love

1:37

stories instead of X stories? Do you pour the

1:39

broth in? I think we should pour these things

1:42

into the broth. That'll probably make a splash. I'm

1:44

going to pour my broth in.

1:46

So we're here to noodle and noodle

1:49

means we're just like curiously thinking about stuff

1:51

out loud. We don't, you know, maybe we'll

1:53

discover some answers. I guess, I guess a

1:55

regular person might say brainstorm, but I like

1:57

to say, hello everyone. I like to say

1:59

I'm just noodling because

2:01

it is disarming and

2:03

it keeps people from feeling judgment.

2:06

hello Jason hello the naked truth

2:08

PC. tell me about the naked

2:10

truth. I have some crocky

2:14

food for us. but

2:17

these are better. I mean

2:19

don't tell these are udon spoons but

2:21

I can't help it. if it's a

2:23

plastic thing I must keep it. so

2:25

yeah so today we're noodling on like

2:28

what to do about the podcast. Kimberly if

2:31

you don't know Kimberly is the incredible

2:33

editor and producer of X stories. hi.

2:35

I mean we kind of produced together.

2:37

we're both trying to be the producers

2:39

together and we're working. we would love

2:42

another person to be the producer. but

2:45

is that okay to say? yeah okay. I'm

2:47

like that's how I feel. just in terms

2:49

of like all of the things. so I'm

2:52

gonna try not to be too splashy here. oh

2:56

damn this looks delicious. last

2:58

week I got I

3:01

got splashes everywhere last week. so

3:03

I that'll probably happen.

3:05

I think I'm gonna start by eating

3:07

my egg. what a great idea. I'm slowing down.

3:10

there will be noodle slurping. so those

3:12

of you with mesophonia, mysophonia. I'm

3:15

sorry you might you've been warned.

3:17

those of you with ASMR. we

3:20

are just a podcast that handles all aspects of

3:22

life from raising kids to six. well I'm not

3:24

gonna say that word here. ideas while

3:26

recording in the... mmm. I

3:29

love that. do you

3:33

also record video? um

3:36

and if so don't say it where to find that. I would like

3:38

to not get kicked off of a platform. I

3:43

love that. I mean it's still my vibe

3:45

and also what a world we live

3:47

in where I mean I'm... Kimberly's

3:50

gonna keep me from ranting about censorship but

3:53

we are gonna noodle on like functionally what

3:55

to do about the podcast.

3:58

we May not come up with the answers. There, but.

4:02

In preparation for this possibility, I

4:04

have been recording love stories so.

4:07

If you were wildly.com/share I

4:09

have loved questions Relationship questions

4:11

thinking questions Marriage Christians, divorce

4:13

questions, friendship question. Secret Question

4:15

of I have all and so full

4:18

of questions most people want to talk

4:20

to me up the original topic which

4:22

is my favorite not yet. We do

4:25

record at clothing optional location sometimes. I.

4:27

Mean Nothing says if you're not doing a video they

4:30

would allow that man. I. Want to do

4:32

it all? Oh this is my. New

4:34

Book. Blue.

4:38

Oh yeah, I just ate my eighth. Them.

4:40

I love that. A major road and the best part

4:43

for me? I mean I felt delicious oil than I

4:45

said that matter, the actual but I gotta eat it

4:47

right away once. Perfect. I'm sorry

4:49

us aware. Were doing

4:52

some disappointment celebrations today and what I

4:54

call it said just celebrations. Celebration and

4:56

neither one of my favorite. If I, if

4:58

you listen to me, probably know love making

5:00

upwards. My.

5:03

Very thing of them like. The I

5:05

Just Got divorced isolated in the dating law.

5:07

The divorce people that that doubles as a.

5:10

Congratulatory. Layer since I don't

5:12

know and I. Love

5:16

your are unfit to. I

5:18

know I've been getting a lot of attention from

5:21

like lot. Lately middle of came back of

5:23

hiding but I'm. Kimberley.

5:25

My lot to do another collage, yet. When

5:28

do I get to earn a collage? I think

5:30

when apart that from the bleeding of when I

5:32

get for make another claude. Although I might I

5:34

might I might have to do with them on

5:37

who to. Root. For. The

5:40

song. And Video Methylene Little

5:43

Thera. Oh. Damn at spicy.

5:45

You know the sad thing is because of how algorithms

5:47

work because of all the things work like. Insta.

5:51

While the colors does not perform well

5:54

so when humans come to tell me

5:56

things like nice things with finances in.

5:58

One word of thing. In

6:00

terms of engagement which is where the marketing

6:02

people tell me I'm supposed to pay attention

6:04

to and my are a threat the like.

6:07

Excuse me? Do know how many people love my

6:09

beautiful. Work on but that's not

6:11

the same thing so. Trying.

6:15

To figure out. No, I'm not. Trying. To figure

6:17

out and letting go of figuring out name is. Generally

6:20

noodling oh my God administered by saying

6:22

that they will only everyone. oh it's

6:24

time for that. We will finish up

6:26

by we believe also if. Anyone is

6:28

a human love lover out there like me. Will

6:30

First of all, who are you? Okay, you

6:32

guys enjoy the noodles. We gonna. Feed. I love

6:35

when people are like i'm hey,

6:37

I'm leaving. Farewell. Istanbul

6:39

of you can just pop out. We would never know

6:42

like people coming up at all that you don't need

6:44

explain yourself I would like to and. Like relief

6:46

every one from the need to explain themselves

6:48

and figure out and you know I to

6:50

impromptu thing that women are them. Urine.

6:53

Yeah, we love them. Ah move

6:56

move. Move.

7:01

Move. Move. Move. Move.

7:04

Move the not for little should stop talking.

7:07

But it's open. To the. The.

7:12

We. Did not yet listen to this to this

7:14

week's episode of Uber Lab. Go

7:17

listen to it if you want an way

7:19

to improve your birds. A local lifted that

7:22

Clinton. And I understand most

7:24

people and often do all the protocol I

7:26

do a lot of them and. I

7:29

miss you Save hit cool well I'm here in the

7:31

present moment. I don't have to tell you. It

7:34

is very easy I do like it's however there

7:36

are many practical reasons the how to and also

7:38

you don't need to look at me now i

7:40

have ugly hair single close your eyes hurt not

7:42

have all that the other room reform as however.

7:45

He responds ari. Who's. I. Am

7:47

I missed? My ship had to and then to what? I

7:50

do have a good reason for keeping hair and

7:52

if you were listening to me at all the

7:54

place with internet scavenger hunt lions than you know

7:56

that and if not you're not paying close attention

7:58

for to Mack and. We're.

8:05

Talking with noodle is the way the noodles meant

8:07

to be. Messy and waiting. For

8:10

mycelium center that's not the school just

8:12

put an end. I.

8:14

Really a break it up and this and that.

8:18

Kind of. Some.

8:21

Will you be doing it again? You know

8:23

it's so funny people love to ask like

8:25

my Harris and number one thing suicide my

8:27

other favorite opposite. I won't mention the people

8:29

talking up with a habit I don't. Have it

8:32

there, but no way for me to avoid it own. Unique.

8:36

And you have a plan family fortune teller

8:38

have. I live long enough to do my

8:40

plan. It'll happen if I don't. Who.

8:43

Can say you know I I I

8:45

take no day for granted all. Hidden.

8:53

I'm making a mess. Kimberly.

8:55

Is Not. Like. I have

8:57

a full be left my napkin. Consumer.

9:01

Items that were certain specific.

9:04

Say when I got him about. That and

9:06

I have a my head shape for surgery

9:08

long ago with a very strange and drafted

9:10

I was not a fan of the incision.

9:12

Oh I love the sensation in a sickening he's to

9:15

the two times and I went full evolve like with

9:17

a straight rid of all the. One.

9:20

I was playing a cult member once

9:22

I was doing of this is clean

9:24

photo shoot that with very funny that

9:26

benefit of i found it so interesting.

9:28

And breezy. and then when I was wearing a be

9:30

me like when it started going back to eat before

9:32

it was like as the. Url you north of,

9:35

you know, Clipper even before that to

9:37

the Bureau. It. Was like velcro

9:39

and side where a beanie and tug at it and

9:41

would get stuck and that made me. Giggle so

9:43

very much. So.

9:46

Should we just eat or noodle than than noodle? About what

9:48

to do? A podcast Land. Are going

9:50

to figure out sophisticated. He.

9:53

Said. This isn't

9:55

rectifies the it's So good at.

9:57

My eyes were watering. I

10:01

say the food place Know how to say that

10:03

for six years, six and another. On.

10:06

Or who can count? But. L. O

10:09

have even eat my meet the at all who

10:11

the meat or So glad I. Did

10:14

you go and try my. For. Yeah from.

10:17

Someone. says.

10:23

Friends. With Alex A naughty words that

10:25

will get in trouble. Wound

10:27

Do you think people will still listen if the

10:29

podcast comply Guess would be a new audience. Which

10:31

is fine because I do get a lotta. Strange

10:35

messages from people who don't necessarily

10:37

so me deep appreciation for maybe

10:39

it's time for new audience. Or.

10:41

Do they do? I like both podcasting.

10:45

Could also have been given to audition that also had

10:47

lots of art things to do, an awful lot of

10:49

exploration for writing to accomplish. But.

10:53

Kimberly I think we are like currently

10:55

recorded. School here is pricey. I've had

10:57

my son might be yours and. This

10:59

one might be mine because I recognize

11:01

this flavor profile for lot. Really, I'm

11:03

sorry. To anyone and we do for we

11:05

switch Sure. We've.

11:07

Later eggs the diplomatic one. Program

11:10

funded usually. And yes, I took like

11:13

a bite. Of them on find.

11:16

Some. Way. That when had

11:18

a huge pepper but time we both

11:20

picked mediums. I. Don't know. I don't

11:23

know. they didn't label it. it. Is anyway

11:25

that of it when early relinquish from?

11:27

is it who's. Gonna

11:29

see a moral. Judgment: What an interesting.

11:32

Name to. I wonder if you're

11:34

being ironic? Oh man. Yeah.

11:37

I like them both very much. I love Simon

11:39

on a variety of of the eat stuff. Of

11:41

those I see I cry of of sanctions. Movement.

11:47

To. Sign up where extra spicy. But.

11:50

I topped are known to medium. Thank goodness

11:52

we didn't We had. Met a mixed

11:54

message mixed up mister the Bronx.

11:57

get out in cryo i mean but

12:00

I am already crying. It's

12:02

got a whole pepper in it. Well, how

12:04

confusing. I mean, I like

12:06

them both. I hope

12:09

you like the way that I crushed up the seaweed in that one. I do.

12:12

Thank you so much for crushing up the seaweed for me.

12:14

Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.

12:17

Mmm. Mmm.

12:23

Give me the giant hot pepper. More flavor the

12:26

better. Well, it's a hot

12:28

pepper flavor. Here's the question. This is a noodle. When

12:30

it's so spicy that your taste buds are like, ahh!

12:34

Is that flavor or does it block out the flavor buds?

12:37

Mmm. Well, I guess you find one of the persons because my

12:41

spice tolerance is much lower than my

12:43

partner's. Mmm. And

12:45

so if they're eating something that they're like, wow, it's so flavorful

12:47

and I taste it, and it just

12:50

completely blacks out my taste buds,

12:52

then for me it's not adding

12:54

flavor. Right. But for them it's

12:57

delicious and tasty and flavorful. This pepper is

12:59

not spicy. This is my pepper report. It

13:02

is not spicy. Um, hello,

13:04

friendmen. Oh, one, we're noodling on disappointment. I

13:07

would love to hear from anyone who's out

13:09

there who is an artist or creative. Um,

13:12

when you get disappointment,

13:14

whether it's like... Yeah,

13:17

I guess it's interesting because I've been

13:19

getting a lot of compliments on podcast-related

13:21

things lately, but a lot of, um,

13:25

external... No. Like,

13:27

I'm so naughty, accidentally, all the time,

13:30

and I'm like, you guys don't even know

13:32

about my naughty parts. I have this red stuff all

13:34

over my face. I'm gonna allow my

13:36

face to just be a messy face, and

13:38

then you can tell me later if I'm messy. Okay.

13:40

I hate it when I'm like in the middle of like

13:42

stuffing food in my face and people are like, you got

13:44

something? I'm like, you're like, yeah, it's here. I need it.

13:46

I need it now. Like,

13:49

I could wipe it off. Um, for

13:51

me, it's just spicy enough when my cheeks start to single.

13:54

I love to cry. I love to fully cry. I love...

13:57

I don't do sugar, alcohol,

13:59

dry. and so this spiciness

14:01

is my thrill and

14:03

other things that we won't talk about here. Please

14:12

don't talk about things we're not supposed to

14:14

talk about on this platform here. I

14:17

don't know if you're paying attention, but the whole point is

14:20

I am trying very hard not to

14:22

get censors. I have been

14:24

struggling with censorship. I've been struggling to make a living

14:26

with a podcast after four years of people saying, Oh

14:28

my god, you can make money. Oh my god, you

14:30

can make money. Oh my god, you can make money.

14:32

I'm like, can I? Show me

14:35

the way! So I'm like,

14:38

I'm pretty bummed about Spotify right now.

14:40

I'm bummed that they let trolls begr- I

14:42

guess I've seen Billy proceeded told me last

14:44

night in our little catch-up

14:46

call. There's a term that's called

14:48

brigading. So trolls just like tell

14:50

on you and negative rate you. So if any

14:52

of you out there love me, if any of you out there love the

14:55

work that I do, I would love it if you could go on

14:57

Spotify. It takes 30 seconds less than that. But

14:59

if you open the app and just leave

15:01

some nice stars, five stars like an Uber driver, you know,

15:03

it messes with people's life if you leave four and we're

15:05

really trying to come back. We're still at a three because

15:07

we got a tax down to a 2.9 last year. Spicy!

15:16

So for any of you out there, I would love to

15:18

hear your noodles. Anything you're noodling about this

15:21

week, or noodles

15:23

on how you

15:26

handle disappointment in general, especially creative disappointment,

15:28

or things that are disappointing to your

15:30

personal hearts. As

15:32

of coming out of my mouth and like, oh she's

15:35

making the same mistake of forgetting that people don't really

15:37

like to talk about deep personal stuff in public spaces.

15:39

But um, you know, I think

15:42

for me, I am really, really used to this point. I

15:44

must have some sort of rejection kinks. Um,

15:47

Kimberly has it right with black. Kimberly,

15:49

you are right with black. Oh,

15:52

thank you. Seems like a

15:54

judgment, but I'm not sure what the message there is.

15:57

Is It about maybe splash? No

16:04

you in learning more truck. I

16:07

have Oxiclean, a fan of

16:10

those. Who. On Earth cares

16:12

about my sports bras need for like

16:14

I live in. A house full of

16:16

everything. Have paid. On it as soon as if

16:18

he sees it as I have no things but. Here's

16:22

a here's a little would you answer like would.

16:24

You come on the podcast. Maybe more people will

16:26

come on if we talk about love rather than

16:28

that thing we're not. The fact that I do,

16:30

I like to do a big cry and then

16:32

ice cold shower off into golf club. Interesting. I

16:35

appreciate that. Yeah, I have not yet. Pride can

16:37

lead to give me a big hug. I think

16:39

I'm just like. Not

16:41

terribly surprised, but I'm also frustrated when I'm also

16:43

dislike: what are we gonna do? I don't know

16:46

that putting a podcast is the answer. I

16:48

don't know. The continuing to podcast is the

16:50

answer. I. Don't I'm very suspicious

16:52

of the accidental hyper friendly over

16:55

the line. Since.

16:58

I'm like I am friendly but also.

17:02

I'm not an automatic yes to everyone just because

17:04

someone with and mean their view as interesting as

17:07

not no contest and I talk. To have

17:09

that experience all. Lead.

17:13

A diverse cast aside, a

17:16

slightly. Concerned for my new

17:18

latter. Concerned about it. They

17:21

founded on my boobs and not my I try to

17:23

look for the things I could do differently and the

17:25

of the even if the feeling is shitty now he

17:27

will. Move Smart! And

17:30

we're only getting better for this too. Shall

17:32

pass. Yeah, isn't because I'm I'm very frustrated.

17:35

And I'm sort of like. Six.

17:39

Years A Passion Project does not a

17:41

job makes but also honestly the interviews

17:44

of the going so well during the

17:46

fifty two days later. It's

17:48

been intense to do some the interviews that

17:50

other more safer my schedule while the that

17:52

kansas what I want to say podcast. Will.

17:55

get you there exploit podcast or com

17:57

will get you there i fucking i

17:59

love interesting people. I love asking

18:02

the deep questions. You know, the people that

18:04

end up signing up are super duper thoughtful

18:06

and give beautiful answers. Wow, that's the

18:08

best part. You can tell, any listeners

18:10

can tell when someone is not

18:13

listening and just kind of on their own agenda. Hello

18:17

Melissa, hello RN19. We're talking

18:19

about artistic disappointment, disappointment in general,

18:21

but we're noodling

18:23

on the future of X Stories

18:26

podcast and how it shall perhaps transform.

18:28

Are we gonna make it safer for

18:30

work? You know, my life is so much

18:32

larger than just the naughty things that I keep getting censored for,

18:34

so I'm like, should I highlight

18:36

that stuff instead? Will anyone want to talk about it? I

18:38

think it's day by day thing for me and how I

18:40

deal with disappointment.

18:44

Some days I rock it, some days I crumble. Well that

18:46

sounds very human of you, I relate to that.

18:48

I'm gonna eat this pepper. Do you want to

18:50

work the next one? Oh sure, I'm still working

18:52

to schedule for the pod. I think

18:54

we could talk about so many things, the traditional content

18:56

or all the creative things answered from the X-ray thing.

19:00

I literally have huge question

19:02

lists at wiley.prince-share. I would like to

19:04

noodle Kimberly on like, how do I

19:07

do more irresistible invitations for people to

19:09

actually share? It

19:12

is very interesting to me the amount of people that

19:14

claim to want to talk to me one-on-one. I

19:17

guess on their schedule, maybe it's just like, I want you

19:19

right now, are you here now? And I'm like, hmm, only

19:21

if you find me on certain sites. I can't say the name

19:24

up here. The

19:27

large cat-like sites, wiley.com/links.

19:33

I mean,

19:37

I think part of it is also just being more visible. I'm

19:40

a great interviewer. More

19:43

judgment judges that I'm a great interviewer. I love

19:45

how you get so into your guests. What

19:47

does that mean? Virtually virtual. Oh, like, probably well,

19:52

I'm projecting, but probably how you're doing

19:54

it. Probably how like getting into your guests

19:57

in terms of like, being engaged,

19:59

being curious. I've been getting excited. I do

20:01

get excited. Probably the number one reflection I hear

20:03

is she's so excited like

20:05

in pretty much any context I'm like Why

20:09

isn't everyone else more excited? Oh

20:13

my god, yeah, Becky's sipping now that you're all settling

20:15

moving. Yeah, do

20:17

it, do it, do it. I

20:19

mean I get it. I trust the divine timing, right?

20:21

It's like I trust the unfolding however, I will

20:23

say if you've been thinking about it Do

20:25

it before June 21st because we're noodling today

20:27

We're not coming to decisions today, but I

20:29

don't know what's happening after June 21st I

20:32

am working to get as many podcasts as possible. So if

20:35

you would like me to keep going, please help me do

20:37

that Because then I

20:39

need a break. I got to focus on my writing

20:41

I got to focus on some other work and

20:43

just like, you know have to really figure

20:45

out this artisty thing Can't

20:47

really keep all this stuff going in the background I

20:50

have been traveling mountain stop for work the last

20:52

two years and it's been a lot and so I'm

20:54

like I love these passion projects, but I

21:01

Tell me more More

21:03

judgment. I'll tell you anything. I Think

21:06

anything that is sick to be talked about on this

21:08

here on this platform Well, I'm gonna sell you anything

21:10

and in and there are certain places where you can

21:13

Here apply to be a

21:15

guest again. You can be anonymous. We can change

21:17

your voice Kimberly's very good at

21:20

pitch shifting You

21:22

don't have to be on video However,

21:24

I do very much believe that we are all making

21:26

the world a more loving place by smashing

21:29

bits of shame together And

21:32

I have lots of question lists if you don't want to

21:34

talk about Ex-y

21:37

things. I know there are people on this platform

21:39

that just say all the words But I used

21:41

to wiggle live and got taken off for saying

21:43

the name of the podcast. Oh my gosh. I

21:45

am It's

21:48

hot wait, can you even say that? That's

21:51

funny because what I'm working on therapy is like loving

21:53

and accepting all of me as is in a

21:55

day-to-day moment-to-moment way and I was Noodling with Kimberly

21:57

as we're walking to get our noodles about

22:00

how I think my experience with like surprise

22:02

like I have been surprised every time about

22:04

censorship. I'm like, wait, that's

22:07

so that's been I think it's hard to have the control

22:09

over a situation that depends on so much that is

22:11

out of your control. Yeah. And so I am

22:13

I'm in let go mode. Kimberly's really good at

22:15

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22:42

my gosh, or judgment. Send

22:44

us an email we can. Yeah,

22:47

I think we are. We're I'm talking to someone

22:49

from Australia tomorrow. Um,

22:52

and I changed my like recording spots all the

22:55

time. So if you if that's the

22:57

only thing holding you back. Also, just to be clear, don't do

22:59

calls. Like I have to look at the person on video. I'm

23:01

not like Kathy K of strictly anonymous her literally

23:04

a phone. And she was like, that might be

23:06

easier for you. Maybe that's what you're maybe you're

23:08

too complicated with a link. People don't like links.

23:10

I was like, Oh, maybe I need a

23:13

big bowl of scary, spicy sauce. So

23:15

much friends. Go get it. Go meet your own needs.

23:17

If that's what you need, and you're clear on it.

23:20

Oh, everything can get delivered. Mark asked, how do

23:22

they even judge what to censor? Great question, Mark.

23:24

Mark, we wish we knew don't know. And you

23:26

know what, they won't tell us we I asked

23:28

for transparency last year. I was like, Hey, I'm

23:30

a little bit autistic. I tried so hard to

23:32

follow the rules. I tried really, really hard. Everything

23:35

I do is to bring emotional context to

23:38

interpersonal connection. And I just want to foster

23:40

communication because I noticed a lot of people

23:42

have difficulties with these conversations. And then

23:44

every time I'm with a person, they're like, wow, I

23:46

feel like I can be honest with you. Wow. I feel

23:49

like I can say anything around you. Wow. It's so nice.

23:51

It's so non judgmental. And

23:53

lo and behold, I get judged for more judgment.

23:55

Explain it to me. I am curious about

23:58

your username and how you came to like the story

24:00

of that. That's the question I would ask you if we were on what

24:03

version of stories would that be? The

24:06

stories? Which

24:08

we are on right now. Well, I've also been

24:10

wanting to be interviewed for like years now but

24:12

get a bit of anxiety. Yeah, I interviewed someone

24:14

today who let me know ahead of time that

24:16

they have a lot of anxiety and I was

24:18

like, I get it, me too. We

24:21

take a breath together before we record. I have

24:23

about 10 minutes of patter and I check in

24:25

with your nervous system. It sounds

24:27

like this, Hi, okay, let's be humans first. Sometimes

24:29

I'm like this, Oh, fuck, this isn't working.

24:31

You think I've been doing this for so many years? Ah,

24:33

it's not, okay, hold on, I'll be right with. Okay.

24:35

Hi, how are you? Let's drop in like humans. How

24:37

are you doing today? And if someone is like, nah,

24:40

good, I'm like, cool, let's record another day, you know.

24:43

And if they're like, I'm nervous, I'm like, I get it,

24:45

I was nervous for a long time but hopefully we'll settle

24:47

down and I have a few things to go over with

24:49

you. And then I go over all the things because Kimberly

24:52

edits the episodes and we try not to

24:54

give Kimberly too much work, which is part

24:56

of what I say. However, the whole point

24:58

of the experiment is that people feel comfortable

25:00

sharing authentically. I do not identify as a

25:02

journalist. I do not believe in shock journalism

25:04

or like I don't have to like angle

25:06

to get a story. People are just interesting

25:09

as a teacher. I feel very conflicted about how

25:11

much I can share. You can use an

25:13

alien. We can change your voice. Yeah,

25:18

we've had many teachers on. And you know what

25:20

the funny thing is? Teachers

25:22

do adult things. And

25:25

I think everyone knows that because like lots

25:27

of teachers have children and we all know how

25:29

those get made. So

25:32

it's not unrelated. Anya is.

25:36

Do we know Anya? Oh, who

25:38

could be for you? I'm

25:40

waving to Jeff, cousin, cousin, and also I got

25:42

excited because Anya wants to know about our noodles.

25:44

We're eating noodles. We're eating some of the... We're

25:49

just noodling. Yeah, Redhead guy wants to eat

25:51

fucks. But we're just noodling. Oh,

25:54

we got an alien hello. So This

25:56

is a just noodling segment where I'm down to hear

25:58

what you're noodling about today. On.

26:01

Report. That. What? You do.

26:03

Love story should just be Love story and I'm

26:05

not have a high up personal education like starting

26:07

a safer Were channel that has no at the

26:09

X on a. Number Will Do

26:11

Love. Relationships. Dating.

26:14

All of a few good ally lead up on such

26:16

sharing so. Many question list and fit the thing.

26:19

I. Knew even if I knew that I'm hearing from people

26:21

who ask their. Partners my system. And.

26:23

At least a Really good things that

26:26

leads to really hot things. Okay, So

26:28

not the like to my own horn. But some.

26:32

Mommy. The funding by a computer asking questions

26:35

which people tell me all the time. I

26:37

just. Like asking questions. Something

26:39

less about asking questions because of really annoy

26:41

people with my questions. So. You

26:43

know, It's just that tells the earth or

26:45

a questioner. Inadequate was ready to answered

26:47

with deep neural question since and I can

26:49

always read the social signals. I'm getting better

26:51

but I have met many a total signal

26:54

in my life that has been basically think

26:56

stop asking questions but they're not selling the

26:58

with her mouth and sunlight but what's happening

27:00

for you right now I don't get it

27:02

for you said this but a. Your behavior

27:04

and opposite from your words and so

27:06

like where the real thing that has.

27:09

Exploded Money. when Phil Murphy says

27:11

it's not backing of it's true.

27:14

Yeah. Well I think with a thank you for

27:16

saying that and also I think we live in a

27:18

culture sometimes where. Am I mean look at

27:20

the same as late as a bit sometimes how they

27:22

treat beyond sentiments of it like the really successful. While.

27:25

South babes like ownership attacked by the

27:27

media in these ways not I'm not

27:29

look little have a problem with assesses.

27:32

That's the good thing about a dwindling

27:34

listenership. Story

27:36

about that. Censorship

27:39

is ah mixers near the latest

27:41

episode of them have guessed with.

27:44

People. You think link juliet. Are

27:47

honest with you. Just put to

27:49

start November up everywhere. I

27:52

got excited for Carly from oh Rory

27:54

the man with such as a conversation

27:56

unconscious release has moved to to says.

28:00

The recording the algorithm were trying to

28:02

woo it flew and. That's

28:05

just my name in a dating

28:07

and from amazon seem like amazing.

28:09

So good that sending heard. This

28:11

is not working. The willing to lose not

28:13

my thing well we've been going for about

28:16

we. Set up being told forever to

28:18

stop asking how do we know. If

28:20

we don't be curious and as well I know

28:22

and on. I know a lot of people find

28:24

it difficult to ask because they've had terrible experiences.

28:26

With the responses to questions right? Whether that.

28:29

A route teacher at school like is meant

28:31

to figure out that some teachers are so

28:33

insecure. Could they are no stuff and they can't say?

28:35

I don't know. I don't know a

28:37

lot of stuff and I have a large amount of

28:39

set the like I don't get what do you mean

28:42

and put me under soon as he can understand you

28:44

but I'm sure things that have different way. But.

28:46

Sometimes there are like implementing class as

28:49

a game show me one more time

28:51

into. they really. Are like fear

28:53

and so they. Really? And as

28:55

I. Am a hard time. Artistic,

28:59

I don't understand where the bodies in space and

29:01

you're a damn thing is is it would have

29:04

a podcast you personally listen to. mostly

29:07

the human, the lab and also and

29:09

set forth C O an infidel a

29:11

license to pay. Her channel called

29:13

that that animal. Ah, I've been

29:15

listening to a lot of a

29:17

provider upon Catholic Worker Podcast ends

29:19

up as into. Mostly. He

29:21

would ever know women like catching up on putting

29:24

one is. Three theories as you

29:26

get. To sleep on lock. And.

29:28

Nutrient yourself properly. I'll.

29:33

Go. Whole life may change unless you're already

29:35

like fine. Thank you. So

29:37

Subaru and Lab H U B. E

29:39

R M A and that's the that's the

29:42

guy, his last name who those said

29:44

a Doctor Andrew human professor of Optimal Aegean

29:46

Neurobiology and that attempted school of Medicine and

29:48

Science is my number one of your

29:50

my number one will have the cash and

29:52

I think he can't have club announced

29:54

in his scroll up a little bit because

29:57

we I did see something come through. The

29:59

reason. What's

30:02

your advice slash thoughts on people who want to share

30:04

so much but don't feel like they can get deep

30:06

with the people of the snow? It's

30:10

the number one question I get. Usually

30:15

there's two things happening here. Sometimes

30:18

you just have to practice and try and

30:21

that opens up a world of wow. Sometimes

30:26

we might put ourselves speaking from my own personal

30:28

past experience. We might be surrounded

30:30

by people who truly are judgmental and at

30:32

a different place in their own developmental journeys.

30:35

Kimberly has been one of the biggest up

30:38

levels of my life because I can say anything

30:40

to you that's honest as true.

30:43

And I am received. Now I've also

30:45

done some work on myself and I'm kind and I'm not. Kimberly

30:48

deals with some of the poquiest parts of

30:50

me. Kimberly sees most of my big

30:52

freak outs. Even

30:55

about small stupid things. Just the other day I was freaking

30:58

out about an email snafu too early in

31:00

the morning so I can correct my behavior when that happens.

31:02

But if you're feeling

31:04

difficulty in sharing I would first say can

31:07

you zoom out and look at

31:09

your surroundings and say is

31:12

it actually safe for you to share with those people? And

31:15

if it's not do you

31:18

want to keep choosing that situation? I

31:20

know sometimes we're bonded to communities and

31:22

families but maybe you need

31:24

to find a new branch of community you can share

31:26

with them. Maybe mostly I know

31:29

that for me in my previous iteration I

31:32

was just like kind of shy and quiet and confused

31:34

a lot. Like I felt pretty disconnected from all of

31:36

my friends most of the time. I love my sweet

31:38

family and like we mostly like eat food and smile

31:40

together. But I wasn't feeling

31:42

the deep deep connection that I like

31:45

craze that makes me feel like connected.

31:49

And that that

31:51

was something that basically in leading the way

31:54

I have invited people into the type of

31:56

closeness that I want. seven,

32:00

eight years have

32:03

had a big shift in a lot of friendship. Some of those

32:06

are for practical logical reasons, like people grow away, they literally move

32:08

away. What are you thinking? You want to move them? I was

32:10

mostly just going to remind you to drink water. Thank you.

32:16

Also out there, stay hydrated and drink some water.

32:18

I would say Kimberly's a really good

32:20

example of someone who surrounds themselves with friends

32:23

who are supportive. I feel like you are

32:25

able to talk to your friends about almost

32:27

anything. Could you have thoughts on that? Yeah,

32:29

I mean, for me, I was

32:33

able to find people through a shared interest.

32:35

So it was online

32:37

role playing game. And I

32:40

just ended up playing with a game with

32:42

a game with people that I really meshed

32:44

with. And that organically turned into like

32:48

a regular weekly gaming group. And then those are

32:50

now five of my best friends. And

32:52

through online gaming, I also met my partner and

32:54

now, you know, we're in

32:56

love and it's great. And it's been Did

32:58

you ever have a hard time sharing with

33:01

people? Or was that something you just I

33:03

think, I think I definitely had

33:05

a hard time sharing prior to

33:09

it was an evolution when I was in college because I went to

33:11

acting school. So it was a lot of like, emotional

33:15

growth, slash looking at what

33:17

I wanted and needed in

33:19

relationships. And after

33:22

college is, you know, I was

33:24

trying to find myself, I didn't really like my job, I didn't

33:27

work with people that I really enjoyed. And

33:31

then I guess it

33:33

was just me working on myself that then the

33:35

willingness of willing. Yeah, you just showed up and

33:37

we're like, I've never been to downtown LA

33:39

before this is kind of a lot. And oh my god,

33:41

and okay, I'll do this photo shoot without

33:43

any clothes. You know, oh, yeah, yeah. The first time why

33:46

I and I met where it was for the

33:48

podcast, episode 34.

33:51

And why I was the first

33:53

person who ever saw me naked. It was

33:55

the like, first

33:57

time I'd ever like shared deeply about

34:00

Yeah, I guess it's like with the willingness. Yeah,

34:02

and again if you're in a

34:04

space of safety, right? Like I'm not saying because

34:06

sometimes if it's a big deal to share and

34:08

you finally like get up your courage to do it

34:10

And you do it with someone who's like gonna bite your head off

34:12

or shame you or judge you I would

34:14

say a little little bites of I'm learning.

34:17

I'm learning to offer one No,

34:20

good at a time one more slow at

34:22

a time Which platforms are you having

34:24

trouble with Spotify? So

34:28

yes, Spotify is where we could just really

34:30

use five stars if you have time and then Apple

34:32

if you want to leave us A nice review We

34:35

love reading nice reviews. Yeah, we love I love reading

34:37

them so much. It makes me feel like my life

34:39

has a purpose not

34:41

not that I ever really

34:43

seek external validation because I'm

34:46

trying to sit

34:48

in more than Like one

34:50

and stand out but but it is nice to read

34:52

and also I had other podcasters recently tell me that

34:54

it's good to like Read them out

34:56

loud and I'm like, ah, this is very nice Wow, so

34:58

many people wrote nice things and it makes my heart warm

35:01

and fuzzy and I usually get kind of wet here

35:03

in the face area and Just

35:09

like when I eat by the noodles Spice

35:12

and love right? I mean, that's why they

35:14

call it spicy. So yeah, Spotify we're

35:16

struggling on but it's but it's also

35:18

that Today

35:21

we got the rejection from megaphone Which

35:23

is where our podcast is currently hosted

35:25

from the Spotify podcast ad

35:27

network spam And that is

35:29

the highest tier of programmatic advertising. So it's

35:32

the best way to make money as a

35:34

ancestor without selling

35:37

you know selling individual host red ads

35:39

to podcasters and so I have some

35:41

podcaster friends who make like Real

35:44

grown-up money every month and and we thought

35:46

that was going to be in our future

35:48

because we have a very similar content and

35:50

it's Been like a real roller coaster of

35:52

the year chasing it and a lot of disappointment a

35:54

lot of money spent trying to do it and a

35:57

lot of just like So

35:59

so there's a two layers. So the layer

36:01

that people could help with publicly is just

36:03

getting those numbers up on Spotify for X

36:05

stories. For instance, part of me was like,

36:07

should we just talk at all? Should

36:10

we just take it down? I don't know. Should I just

36:12

hide it? I don't know. I'm kind of having a like,

36:14

I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's probably gonna happen. But so

36:18

many are so in depth. I get lost.

36:21

Humor. We don't

36:23

have to listen all at once. I

36:26

listened to the most recent episode over the course

36:28

of three days, two days, whenever you

36:30

told me about it is when I started listening to it. And

36:32

I Yesterday. Oh,

36:34

no, Monday. It was there. It's a long

36:37

episode. But yeah, I just I just kind of

36:39

like put it on while I was walking or

36:41

while I was cooking and just like listening. I

36:43

think they do a great job of talking for

36:45

science nerds or he called them the aficionados out

36:47

there like the people that are in medical school that

36:49

are in grad school that are like studying those things.

36:51

They're like, yeah, you know, what do you think you're

36:53

talking about? You're like, when you know

36:56

when the typical person thinks of

36:58

the metabolism, they think ATP, and

37:00

we're like, okay, I

37:04

know what you're talking about. But yeah, no, I

37:06

love him. I've been like

37:08

watching. He had a great one on back pain.

37:11

And because I've been computing so hard to try

37:13

to be a real online creator, I've been having

37:15

to lower back pain. So I've been like watching

37:17

his video where he

37:20

does all of the exercises

37:22

to strengthen the muscles around my

37:24

spine. Kimberly, when dealing with freak outs

37:26

with someone that you're that close to, what

37:28

do you do to deescalate without disconnection? Oh,

37:32

interesting. Well,

37:36

I mean, with freak outs with you, it'll

37:39

normally just be sort of like listening through what

37:41

you're saying. And

37:45

honestly, you usually calm yourself down. Well,

37:48

you go, okay. Yeah,

37:50

I have a consciousness that I'm

37:53

like, it's you're

37:55

the witness. Sometimes it is at you, but I

37:57

will say you are just calm. we

38:00

were talking about this because I don't have

38:02

that level. I'm gaining everyday I'm getting better,

38:04

where am I getting better? I'm gaining the calm

38:06

that Kimberly has because oftentimes if someone

38:08

at me is like, then I'll be

38:10

like, but like when I'm

38:12

like Kimberly Kimberly's like

38:16

okay you know and and that actually

38:18

is has been such a good model

38:20

for me to practice being a little

38:22

fucking calmer. Yeah well it is also

38:24

interesting because I was noodling on this

38:26

the other day of like oh

38:28

my reaction or my natural reaction is to

38:31

sort of like take in what the other

38:33

person is doing and feeling and I think

38:35

I can trace that back to like childhood

38:37

with like you know. You also had

38:40

a joke on this. Didn't

38:42

you? It was like a while where you were

38:44

just like, I'm not gonna react right? Yes well

38:46

that's what I'm saying. I think I think I

38:49

accidentally gave myself the best training of how I

38:51

would react to volatile situations growing up and

38:54

so now I have this ability to

38:56

take in like when

38:58

you're freaking out without it

39:01

like and being able to like listen

39:03

through it or being able to like try

39:05

it not necessarily redirect but like. I

39:08

also did give you a pretty good disclaimer when we

39:10

started working together of like sometimes when

39:12

I'm in thinking deep noodle mode mode I

39:14

just like I when

39:17

I am so focused on an issue or a

39:20

problem or a solving or whatever I lose

39:22

my complete ability to mask because it

39:24

costs energy to add smiles to my voice.

39:26

Yeah and so

39:28

sometimes I'm just like I

39:30

am talking like this and I do not have any happy

39:32

tones for my voice and I'm thinking through this and then

39:34

you know sometimes it is at you or I'm like it

39:36

needs to be like this and I and I know but

39:38

I also do try to do a lot of caveats of like

39:41

you're really good at doing caveats. Yeah

39:43

am I? You're getting better.

39:45

You're only getting better at it.

39:52

Spicy. Yeah so I would

39:54

say Kimberly's good at disconnect

39:56

at de-escalation without disconnection. I think

39:58

it's I think a lot of it actually. is

40:00

validation. You validate my experience. Like you

40:02

being with me in the feeling, not

40:05

adding to the feeling, not saying, yeah, yeah, that's bad,

40:07

that's bad, that's bad, not faming the flame. But

40:10

just hearing, witnessing, not trying to

40:12

solve it, not trying to fix it.

40:14

Because it's not, I mean, sometimes it is

40:16

your job to fix whatever the actual

40:18

fact is. But that's not what I

40:21

mean. I mean, Kimberly never tries to

40:23

fix my experience and never tries to

40:25

edit my experience. And so it's just present

40:27

and with me. And you know, all

40:29

of the books that I've done, all the reading I

40:31

do on like child development and emotional stuff, there's a

40:33

lot of validation of like, I know that's

40:36

hard. Actually, one of my favorite episodes

40:38

of the Huberin Lab is with Dr.

40:40

Becky. What's her last name? The

40:42

one on parenting. She has a parenting

40:44

podcast. Oh, you recognize her name. I'm

40:46

blanking on her last name. Kennedy, Dr.

40:49

Becky Kennedy. And she

40:51

has that podcast, even though it's like written,

40:53

I almost knocked this fully over. Even though

40:55

it's like written for parents, I learned

40:57

so much about human connection from that. And

40:59

if she has, what does she

41:02

call it? The both and like two things can be true.

41:04

Like I am upset. And

41:06

we need you to put your

41:08

socks on so we can go to school.

41:11

Yeah, like, like, you are, you are upset.

41:13

Yeah. And also we need to

41:15

move on early, you know, we need to actually

41:17

handle the situation. Yeah. And I would say we

41:19

are good together at balancing that inner work and

41:21

just like figuring out all the stuff. What

41:25

if you had two to three people per episode

41:28

with shorter interviews on more specific topics? Tell me

41:30

how to get all the scared people to apply.

41:32

And people could sign up for the topic

41:35

they resonate with. I mean,

41:37

there are the question lists, which is, which is,

41:39

I mean, it's an invitation. I think people

41:42

want to talk to me one on one. I also, it's

41:44

weird because I do have a thing where I'm

41:46

like, what topic do you want to talk about?

41:48

They're like, anything, you know, and so I'm like,

41:50

okay, I guess we'll do the default. I mean,

41:52

I like I like the idea of having roundtable

41:54

discussions. I have a hard time doing short anything.

41:56

Like I'm always like, yeah, it'll be 30 minutes

41:58

and an hour goes by. So. So like,

42:00

I've learned that, um, I

42:03

mean, how long have we been going even right now?

42:05

Probably a while. Who knows? It

42:07

takes time to eat spicy noodles and talk about

42:09

stuff. 42 minutes, not too bad. But

42:12

I do like that. I mean, that is what I

42:14

was trying to do last year with the Deep Dive

42:16

Live on Patreon. I'm not live streaming

42:18

unless I have a friend sitting right next to me is

42:20

a little bit, blah blah blah blah, for my

42:22

brain. Yeah, having you kind of

42:25

talk while I've finished drinking my broth. Yeah, you

42:27

do that. Is it helpful? Do

42:31

you play Dungeons and Dragons and also congrats,

42:33

Kim? I do prefer Kimberly. We call her

42:35

Kimberly. Um, I do. I

42:38

have played Dungeons and Dragons in the past. My

42:41

main game that I play is Good

42:43

Society, which is a Jane Austen role-playing

42:45

game set in the Regency. You

42:48

may, if you wish to mention 20, you may be

42:50

familiar with a quarter fan flowers and

42:54

that like mashed up some of the Good Society rules

42:57

with D&D. Um, but yeah, it's

42:59

really fun. I don't know what most of

43:01

that means, but I love it. I

43:03

love it. Those are all names of games? Those are

43:05

all names of games. Yeah. Okay.

43:09

Have you read or heard of the book? Oh, shit. What's

43:11

it called? What am I trying to say? A

43:13

Court of Thorns and Roses? I have heard of A Court

43:15

of Thorns and Roses. I've been trying to find people. I didn't

43:17

mention it in a podcast, so you would have heard of

43:19

it. I've known about it for about, I don't say like

43:21

a year or so now, um, because lots

43:23

of people were reading it. No. I

43:26

was recommended not to read it. Interesting.

43:28

Why? I don't know. They

43:30

said that they just thought I wouldn't enjoy it and I

43:33

trust them in terms of knowing my taste.

43:35

I'm extra curious. I'm not. But I

43:37

am curious though. Whenever somebody's like, no, no, you're not going to

43:39

like it. I'm like, what if I do? Because

43:41

I like fantasy, you know? Yeah. I

43:44

don't know. I met a friend at the spa in the locker

43:46

room the other day and I saw, I like don't know that

43:49

series at all, but someone had just told me about it. It's on

43:51

my radar and I was like looking at the time, I was like,

43:53

I feel like it's from this series. And

43:56

so I was like, excuse me. Is that book

43:58

from this series? And What do you think? The.

44:00

Bigger the any researching

44:02

fantasy fiction because spicy

44:04

feel. In it but it's not center

44:06

of. I'm working on the next. Writing.

44:09

Things I am determined to make things

44:11

that will like it some. Third, I

44:13

mean, I can't. I'm not in control

44:15

of answer, but I'm yeah. Okay, and

44:17

innateness affirmation is always nice to receive

44:19

a fair share. Well, we have not

44:21

been keeping up. yeah I reflect

44:23

excitement back if is com when

44:25

you guys. When you

44:27

have a D H D. Thought. Autism trade smearing

44:30

is huge. Well I think if you for

44:32

everybody and. Know to have different from upon. Us

44:35

from on while. What one thing.

44:37

Have wished people would practice. When. Dating

44:39

someone eight years toothless, Author them.

44:42

Ah! I get off my

44:44

thing. Doesn't

44:46

Mm does? It's ah on. Which

44:51

book? Well, I

44:54

think everyone always can

44:56

benefit from. Shutting.

44:58

Him to see enough of this is tough

45:00

because of the consciousness question but basically of

45:02

for me the biggest issue is. Good.

45:05

To know how to. Point.

45:08

Out when someone has assumption, I

45:10

do not share. And

45:13

that is some of complicated thing because I'm like how

45:15

the why not make them on but awful. I don't

45:17

really know what the fuck are talking about. So.

45:19

Could they please slow down and also for

45:21

me one of the things that people get

45:23

bothered with the new like one or in

45:25

the day and uncomfortable for me as i

45:28

especially when I have no contact her person

45:30

so when we're worth onscreen only I'm like.

45:34

What? Do you mean Select League For

45:37

me? So many words have lots of meanings.

45:39

The dictionary let us know that we all

45:41

learned that the celebrate. I understand that many

45:44

regular people but often many people are irregular.

45:46

Literally everyone is different from

45:48

each other. Like, by definition,

45:50

I'm. So.

45:53

It's I just I wish that there

45:55

were. more cultural awareness

45:57

of under Understanding that just

45:59

because you assume something to

46:01

be true does not mean

46:03

I assume something to be true You

46:07

know, I get I've recently had like a

46:09

friend try to comfort me by basically being

46:11

like but you'll never have to worry about

46:13

your life being boring and I'm like That

46:16

has literally never been a concern of

46:19

mine because every day someone's like, you need

46:21

so different, huh? What's happening? You're so huh,

46:23

like an alien. Well, like a robot like

46:25

a flop, you know And so I wish

46:28

to not be othered personally However, it's

46:30

been explained to me many times and

46:32

it must be reiterated and I'm only getting better at

46:34

remembering this That those are compliments to

46:36

many people and so I also

46:39

just I love clear communication

46:41

I know that means something different to everyone

46:43

but there's the active listening component like oh,

46:46

what do you mean about that? And so it's like maybe I

46:48

are baselines of curiosity. Yeah, it's curiosity. I

46:50

feel like it's listening. I there was It

46:53

might have been from a Huberman lab episode that you had

46:55

talked about or a book that you had read but talking

46:57

about like getting To know the person that you're with

47:00

or dating and it was talking about it in terms

47:02

of long-term relationships but the

47:04

idea of Meeting the person that

47:06

you're dating every day. Yes That

47:10

was the book you're not listening. It was by a New

47:12

York Times author I read it in January of last year

47:14

and it was yeah And so I think about that all

47:16

the time because I'm like me too. You don't even know

47:18

me today. I'm different now I

47:20

was like sometimes I don't know me and I get to

47:22

learn every day. Wait. Yes, and it's

47:24

like that's why when people

47:26

like Women

47:29

have to say what they like and

47:31

it's like You like one

47:33

same thing all the time every day

47:35

for the rest of forever with every

47:37

single partner you might have really? You

47:40

know, I'm trying to be no one I've ever

47:42

interviewed has said I mean like yes We have a

47:44

general idea right like but like how

47:47

do you keep you have a partner? You

47:49

guys communicate a lot How

47:51

do you know like do you have a method

47:53

for checking in that keeps you like? On

47:56

the same page or like like

47:58

how do you know? because they're

48:00

long distance. We're long distance, yeah. And so

48:02

you have to, you have a practice perhaps

48:05

of checking in

48:07

to get to know them every day. Sometimes

48:09

we go, hi, my name is Kimberly. And

48:11

these are the things that I

48:14

learned about myself today. Wait, really? Yeah, that's

48:16

so cute. Yeah, we started doing it when

48:18

I was out east in last

48:21

month, whenever that was, what our time is. In

48:24

March. And so, because

48:28

I've thought about that since you told me about that. About

48:32

like the getting to know each other every day.

48:34

And so I was like, what if we just

48:36

introduce ourselves every once in a

48:38

while? Do you like pick whatever's present for you in that

48:40

moment? Or like a joke every day? Okay, okay. Oh, it

48:42

kind of sounds like a joke as a lead in, but

48:45

then it's always genuine. Do you ever go

48:47

like, I mean, I do this to you, I think

48:49

often I'm like, I've discovered something about myself, but do

48:51

you do that with other people? Cause

48:53

I'm pretty much constantly like, here's what I'm learning about, here's

48:55

what I'm noodling about, this is my theme of the week.

48:57

I mean, I will often sort of just

48:59

share about

49:01

myself to people. Like, especially if I am

49:04

realizing something. Which goes back to the earlier

49:06

question. Experience how? Yeah, I just do it.

49:08

Surround yourself with people who you know will

49:10

listen. Yeah, yeah. Unrelenting curiosity

49:12

is a trait of our brains and

49:14

society tries to train it out,

49:18

is a, I don't. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's

49:20

one way to look at it. I could totally see

49:22

a version where that's the story. I've

49:24

noticed that there

49:27

seems to be a common pattern in society

49:31

of people don't always

49:33

wanna noodle with me because

49:35

they are afraid of judgment. That's why I

49:37

call it noodling to let you know that

49:39

it's silly. It's so silly. It's wiggly. We're

49:41

not judging, we are noodling. It's like a

49:43

brainstorm, it's unfinished cause we are all works

49:45

in progress. Oh, that was my favorite thing

49:47

from this week's Huberman Lab episode. It's talking

49:50

about food, habits, et cetera. We're all in

49:52

process, we're all in progress. I'm

49:54

reading, mistakes were made by Meryl Wilmer

49:56

right now just about done and I'm

49:58

loving lots of. spicy

50:01

steams. Some

50:03

mistakes were made.

50:06

A Wilner. W-I-L-S-N-E-R. Thank

50:09

you, Danielle. Wait,

50:11

by who? Meryl and Meryl. I

50:17

love it. I love recommendation. Thank

50:20

you for that. Okay,

50:22

we have finished our spicy steams. Oh, is there more stuff?

50:25

Someone said that's really wholesome, cute, playful. We'll be

50:27

adopting that. Thanks, Camilla. Oh my god, my pleasure.

50:29

Mark. Absolutely my pleasure. Okay, so Mark believes that

50:32

it's time for me to make a new collage.

50:36

Mark. I know. Maybe

50:40

this weekend. Judgment

50:43

is definitely one of those ways of training. Yeah,

50:45

well, and I think we all must practice. I

50:49

was trained in judgment, like many people, and it

50:51

was only when I was 26 and I was

50:53

like, boom, get rid of your hair. I don't

50:56

know, did I shave off my judgment? But if

50:58

that was where I gave myself time and space,

51:00

howdy, howdy. I think I know who that is.

51:06

Very nice person. You

51:08

know, and it's, yeah,

51:11

allowing myself to not know, allowing myself

51:13

to wonder. Now there's a downside, right?

51:16

Because I'm like, I'm never on the

51:18

same page as people. Never is not

51:20

true, right? I actually do find people

51:22

that I'm on similar wavelengths with in

51:25

surprising places all over. Also because I love

51:27

things. I love, yeah, things, but also just

51:32

I am always looking for the connection. And

51:34

I think that frames a

51:36

lot of my experience, you know? And I think because

51:38

of that, and I walk around with this vibe of

51:40

like, who are you? What are you doing? What are

51:42

you noodling on? You know, people tend to open up

51:44

and share a lot. Okay. I

51:49

personally need a new book. Mark. There was a

51:51

moment where I like, I should make everyone collages

51:53

with every photo shoot I do. And I was

51:55

like, that is not as efficient. Okay.

51:58

Should we wiggle wrap up? Oh wait,

52:00

nothing wrong with having legal friends knew

52:02

something. Thanks! Okay you're on. I will

52:04

go for your friend or all. Everyone

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52:08

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52:26

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52:30

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52:32

were also. I would recommend wiggling and what

52:35

I learned. So I started wiggling on my

52:37

thirtieth birthday five years ago. When.

52:40

They are brushing my teeth in the mirror credible while since

52:42

I was very. Weak as I. Do

52:44

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52:55

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52:58

I was legally daily for about

53:00

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53:02

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many messages about how actually good it

53:06

is for regulating her anxiety ridden in

53:09

the human body. and we're sending signals

53:11

to ourselves for mitochondria right now to

53:13

make more power or less unless you

53:15

know. so it is weeks the body

53:18

up and if we can just move

53:20

like that bi lateral movement, go outside,

53:22

get some light in your eyes. Within.

53:25

Thirty minutes of waking up in the morning.

53:27

get laid, angle working on a walk after

53:29

this outside probably get low angle sunlight in

53:31

those eyes. To set your circadian rhythm,

53:33

do yourself a favor. For. Utterance Food

53:35

per I mean you really want to

53:37

do but people are owed Athena. You do

53:40

all the earth so do you live the

53:42

salaries of I think it could My

53:44

dog means of said it's like well trained

53:46

because I. Nutritious. Foods the

53:48

come from good foil. And. I

53:51

wiggle every day because life is

53:53

extremely wiggly. And if you

53:55

don't little with it, he ripped Usenet. And

53:59

my experience anyway. I have, you know, because

54:01

in my earlier days, it was like super hyper

54:03

productivity, I burned myself out producing

54:05

and like create, you know, and so

54:07

we wanna make beautiful wiggly

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wavy circles. Do you have any other

54:11

new thoughts, Camber friend? I don't think so, just

54:14

thank you all for joining us. I said, why are

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54:18

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54:23

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you don't come slash wings, I think I need to

54:57

redo it but I think that's good. Did we do it?

55:00

I think we did. Wiggle friend, wiggly,

55:02

wait, should we do a wiggle hug in a

55:04

circle? Oh, we've never done this

55:06

before. What a way to

55:08

celebration, yes. So, all right,

55:11

wiggle friends, maybe that's the

55:13

rebrand, human connection stories. Yeah, so I'm

55:15

thinking personal education, love relationships

55:17

and connection, something like that. I think personal

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of a lovely human connection.

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