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We all have a G-spot just like we all have
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a nose, but everybody's
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nose is kind of different. But
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the nose is in the same place on the face.
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The G-spot is in the same place in
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every single woman on the planet.
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You're listening to Sex with Emily. I'm
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Dr. Emily, and I'm here to help
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you prioritize your pleasure and liberate
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the conversation around sex. Good
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news!
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Every vulva owner can learn how to
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squirt, but it does take practice.
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And on today's best of show, I've got
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sex educator, author, and female
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ejaculation expert Deborah Sundahl
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here to walk us through it. First, Deborah clarifies
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the connection between squirting and the
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G-spot. And just in case you have any
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doubts about the G-spot's existence, Deborah
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tells you how to find yours in the mirror.
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Next, we clarify what female ejaculate
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is. Hint, not pee.
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And how this fluid builds up in your body. We
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also talk about the difference between
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squirting and orgasm. And
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finally, we take your top questions
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on how to squirt with a partner. Yes,
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there are step-by-step tips.
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Because as I always say, the wetter,
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["The Most Important Thing About
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Me"]
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["The Most Important Thing About Me"]
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Deborah Sundahl is the foremost
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expert and pioneer when it comes to female
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ejaculation and the G-spot. She's
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the author of the seminal book, Female
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Ejaculation and the G-spot. Her 35
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years of groundbreaking contributions to
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this field include a line of videos titled
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the Female Ejaculation Sex Education
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Series, which Deborah produces in-house.
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She lectures and gives workshops in North
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America and Europe and has taught thousands
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of men and women in all genders how
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to integrate the G-spot and female ejaculation
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into their erotic lives. She continues
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to be a spokesperson for female sexuality
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and an advocate for sex education.
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You can find Deborah Sundahl at debrasundahl.com.
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That's D-E-B-O-R-A-H-S-U-N-D-A-H-L.com.
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Welcome Deborah to the show. Thank
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you. Tell me first, Deborah,
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how you got into this work.
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Feminism. I'm a women's
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studies person and
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I left there with my partner.
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We moved to San Francisco
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because we wanted to
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create things around sexuality and there
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was nothing.
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Nothing. Yeah, there wasn't even
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any information on the clitoris then, right?
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No, there wasn't. What
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brought you towards the G-spot
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and female ejaculation? Well, in 1984, we did a magazine
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called On Our Backs, which
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was the first magazine by
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women, for women, about sexuality.
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So that was our answer to Playboy. And
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so every topic imaginable
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on women's sexuality, we covered
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body image, S&M,
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fantasies, how to communicate.
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We covered it all. We had photographers,
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writers, nonfiction.
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We even had to create our own ads.
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And distribution was very minuscule
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because a lot of we fell through the cracks. We
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weren't porn, but
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we were erotic and nobody wanted
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that.
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Well, yeah, I still
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fall through the cracks because now they want porn. But what
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I'm thinking is in the last, so I've been doing this for over 15
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years, and I realize that
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in the last probably 10 is when
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really the questions about female ejaculation or
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squirting have become more prominent, have become more popular.
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And
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I attribute it to the
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fact that you can now get porn on your smartphone
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and it's everyone's pocket.
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Have you seen a change the last 10 years?
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Porn has put
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those topics, all
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kinds of sexual topics into the mainstream.
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So I would attribute it to porn.
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What are the biggest misconceptions around
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female ejaculation? All women
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can ejaculate
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because the G-spot is the female
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prostate. And
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female ejaculation is
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prostatic fluid. And
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all women have a prostate just like
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all men do.
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It's fully functional, just like the male
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prostate. As a feminist,
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we're very used to hearing,
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you know, about diminished women's
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experiences. Well, this is a classic
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case. Let's first start with the G-spot,
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because in reading about your in-person workshops,
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you actually sit with women in a room
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and you introduce them to their G-spot
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and you teach them how to ejaculate.
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And I think that even the fact that you've been doing this
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for 30 years, I
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have to tell you some news that women,
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unless they've taken your workshop or they've done
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their own research, they still don't know how
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to find their G-spot. They still don't
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know. I mean, I'd love to say that it's changed.
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I don't know what the numbers were then, but
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I still think it's really, really confusing.
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I even call it the G area, because I think when you
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say spot, you're like, oh, it's this one
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spot. So how would you describe
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how
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to find the G-spot? G-spot is
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an unfortunate name. It is an unfortunate
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name. Named after the famous book, the
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G-spot by Whipple and Perry, sexologists
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and scientists. The
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G-spot is named after Grafenberg, the
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urologist from the thirties who knew
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about female ejaculation, who knew about
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the female prostate, but his work
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was ostracized. And
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so an academic tradition, Whipple
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and Perry built on his work and
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therefore
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named him on that cover
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of that book. Unfortunately,
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G also stands for Gotta Spot.
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Oh, Gotta Spot is so much better. Yeah,
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totally. I like Gotta Spot. That
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is it. So, well, let's talk about the clitoral orgasm
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versus the G-spot orgasm. How would you
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describe them? Well, first of all, G-spot
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is the female prostate. The female prostate
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surrounds the urethral canal.
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It starts at the outside opening of
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the body. And it's 32 ducts
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and glands are sprinkled along
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the urethral canal about two
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inches. So therefore,
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because the urethral canal The arthral
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canal and the vaginal
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canal share the same
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wall. That means you
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can easily access the
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prostate through the roof
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of the vagina. You can easily
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feel it. It literally hangs
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down through the roof of the
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vagina. It's a prostate.
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It's not the clitoris. The
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clitoris is primarily erectile
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tissue. We have the little nub
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on the outside of the body full of nerves.
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As feminists, healthcare nurses,
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Rebecca Chalker and Susan Gage
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in 1982 redefined the clitoris. They
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said, hey, it's not just a little nub on
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the outside of the body that feels
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so good. It's actually erectile
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tissue that extends four to five
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inches inside the body.
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They thought these women were nuts for 15
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years. Well, now they've seen
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this structure in the cadaver. Right?
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Yes.
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There's little puppets you can buy.
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Wait. Women have made the clitoris. I
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have the vulva puppet. So
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you have the vulva puppet and this is Clitty.
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I like the Clitty puppet. I don't have a clitoris
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puppet. Yeah. But yeah,
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here's her little, you know, and here's her wings
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and her bulb. She has these
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parts, a part that surrounds
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the urethra and a part that
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surrounds the vagina. Yeah.
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So the G-spot is actually
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the female prostate
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plus its erectile
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tissue. Yeah. Is it kind of like internal
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clitoral nerves then? Or would you just say even
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before that
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it's a prostate? But I always tell people it's all connected,
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I guess is what I'm saying. It's all connected. You
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see the clitoris has a different nerve
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than the G-spot. And again, we get this
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from Whipple and Perry. That was one of two
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major discoveries they made
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and why they wrote a book. Okay.
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Two nerve theory. The pudendal nerve
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goes to the clitoris.
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penis, the pelvic branch
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of the vagus nerve goes
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to the prostate's male and female.
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Two different nerves, two
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different orgasmic experiences.
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So we all know the
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clitoral penis orgasm.
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Panting, fast stimulation,
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whether it's for a guy on the penis
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or for the
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vibrator with
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the women and hold
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your breath and you have
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a good orgasm, you clench
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up your body and sure
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it's a good orgasm. G-spot
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prostate orgasms are
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the opposite.
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Long, slow breaths because
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we're dealing with the vagus nerve, which
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I'll explain in a minute. But it's
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long and slow breathing. You
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relax instead of clenching.
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Do not vibrate the
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prostate. It is an organ
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of the body. And if
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you vibrate it, you kind of click in
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that
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pudendal nerve. And so it's
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not so easy to access that G-spot
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nerve if you're vibrating away. Also
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you move the body, okay?
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Because you're building this
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huge orgasm, which is full-bodied,
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starts in your toes, spreads up your
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legs, makes your legs shake. I mean, it comes
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out your head. You can see stars.
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It's a powerful physical orgasm.
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It's not your bliss orgasm
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where, you know, if you're in Tont or Eastern
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traditions, you're doing the circulating
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breath, which is mostly from the pelvis
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up, from the stomach up,
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okay? And you can kind of ride
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this wave of energy
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orgasm. No, I'm talking as
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a feminist
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body, as a woman, thighs,
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right? Birthing down
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into the floor, right? You just...
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We're going to speculate down and into the ground.
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We menstruate, same. It's
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very physical, full body orgasm.
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So you need to breathe
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and build that. Okay.
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That's amazing. Oh my God. Sounds
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good, doesn't it? It does sound good. So where do
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we start with that? You know where I start with
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that? I start with anatomy. My
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power points are anatomy.
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Women have to know they have a prostate.
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I mean, we have a missing body part.
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All the studies done on, oh, women
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can orgasm and it takes us longer
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and you need 20 minutes of foreplay.
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This is the news. When you relax
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and you just touch the prostate,
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you know, it fires up like this,
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your arousal.
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Our arousal is accessible.
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It's immediate and it's powerful. We
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just have not known. We
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have a prostate and we haven't known
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how to
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touch her. So
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in reading your book, and I have not taken your workshop,
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but you talk about this workshop where the women take
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a mirror, because I've always telling women just to take a look at their
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vulva, but I don't often talk about them going inside,
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but
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how you push out your pelvic floor
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and you can see the
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ridges of your G-spot. Yes.
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And all women who are listening to this, you
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can do this. This is your homework. Can't tell
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us. As you sit down on the floor,
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you need a mirror,
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not your little lipstick mirror, ladies.
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Okay. Nice big eight inch mirror.
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Prop it up on a stand or lay it against
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a pillow, which you place
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as you sit on the floor between
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your legs. Then
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two fingers on each hand,
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place them gently. One
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on each labia.
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We spread your labia
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apart,
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push out with your pelvic floor muscles
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and see if
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you can see the riches,
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the famous riches of your G
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spot. Okay, some
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women will see their literally
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some women just do that and they're like, Oh,
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there it is. And they're completely
16:15
shocked. Some have said I
16:17
thought that was a prolapse. It's
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like, it's not.
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Okay, this is alarming. I know, but it does
16:24
happen. Maybe we'll get into that later. Maybe
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we won't. But you know, but other
16:29
women, they're
16:30
gonna have to practice
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this three, five times, you
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know, take a break, try it again.
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Because number one,
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for many women, while they've never did this
16:41
before, now some women never even
16:44
looked at their evolve of before. And
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then some women haven't really used
16:49
their pelvic floor muscles to push out
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like that. So right away,
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you have three things you've never done before,
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you just practice ladies, that's
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all keep at it.
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And some women have
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more meaty or smaller
17:06
labia. And so it's a
17:08
little harder to pull apart,
17:10
or it's a little you have to peer
17:13
a little deeper in if they're more
17:15
meaty. But all you have
17:17
to do you can see it is push
17:20
out.
17:20
Look for that urethral canal
17:23
because remember the prostate
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surrounds the urethral canal.
17:28
It's right there at the outside of
17:30
the body
17:32
from the outside, just two
17:34
inches in. So look for that urethra.
17:37
And then when you push, you're gonna see her peek
17:39
out from underneath the urethra,
17:41
you'll start to see her little ridges.
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So you see her little ridges
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and then and then what do you do there?
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You see it come out. I think everyone has to do that.
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That's all.
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That's all. You just want to see
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it. Okay. First step is they said
17:57
it don't exist. But guess what? You just
17:59
saw it.
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It's the prostate, okay? Suddenly
18:02
you're changed. We're talking about confidence.
18:04
We're talking about, yes, I know where my G-spot
18:06
is. I've seen it. Has every woman been
18:08
able to have a G-spot orgasm from
18:11
your
18:11
class? Yes, yes.
18:16
Oh my God. Because they
18:18
get to know her. She's
18:20
not vague. People
18:22
have said, you don't exist. It's like,
18:25
well,
18:25
that's it. You
18:27
don't exist. She has a little, you know,
18:30
I know, she's, she
18:33
doesn't exist. She's not real. I can't
18:35
do it. Oh, I just- Right,
18:37
right. She's broken. It's like, oh
18:40
my gosh. This
18:42
is the work that people, we all need
18:44
to do it. I mean, I do this in grad school, but
18:46
not to this degree. So this is incredible.
18:48
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
18:50
Thank you for supporting our sponsors who
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we come back, I asked Deborah if all
18:57
vulva owners
18:58
can ejaculate.
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That's it. Thank you.
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Let's talk about why this isn't happening through
19:09
penetration. I mean, it could. Oh,
19:12
it does. Just tell me your perspective on
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that, why so many women don't. Cause
19:16
they've denied it.
19:17
They haven't looked for it. Mostly, again, the
19:19
speed.
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Yes.
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This is the vaginal orgasm.
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This is what the vaginal
19:25
orgasm is. It's the G-spot. And
19:30
women haven't had the vaginal orgasm
19:32
because they're going too fast.
19:34
You have to slow down to how that orgasm
19:37
is. We just said with the vagus nerve,
19:39
got to go slow. It's slow,
19:41
right? And so for some women who maybe
19:44
are having orgasms that way, it's probably
19:46
rubbing, I was thinking your clitoris is maybe rubbing
19:48
on your partner and that's what's going to happen, but it's
19:50
not
19:51
internal. It's not the
19:54
G-spot. It's slow, like slow,
19:56
slow, slow. If
19:59
anything's in the. vagina, fingers,
20:01
toy, penis, you're
20:03
stimulating the prostate. You
20:06
cannot not stimulate it. It's right
20:08
there on the
20:09
roof. So it's always
20:12
getting stimulated. It's just, it's
20:14
numbed out due to the way we make love
20:16
in Western culture, which is to ram ram
20:18
ram ram. So we're talking like, slow.
20:22
Well, slow and steady,
20:25
slow and steady, rhythmic
20:28
in and out. That's
20:30
how you breathe and
20:34
relax, move your body,
20:36
you know, with
20:39
the rhythm. So it's a dance.
20:41
It's not a mechanic.
20:44
It's an art, right? So
20:47
it's body talk. Okay, so it's
20:49
not your mind saying, could you please hurry
20:51
up? To
20:55
do this, that and the other thing is like,
20:57
no, you have to breathe. You
21:00
have to move your body. This is think
21:02
of the word build.
21:04
You build building
21:07
pleasure throughout your body. And
21:10
you do that with the breath and
21:13
the movement.
21:15
Right. And this is basic tantra.
21:17
Actually, this is where tantra enters the picture
21:20
with the G spot orgasm is
21:22
tantra teaches to move
21:24
your body to breathe.
21:27
Because what they're doing is they're breathing this
21:29
arousal pleasure all around
21:31
the body. They're feeling really they
21:33
say they're feeling their cells with pleasure
21:36
and you are you are so
21:38
yes,
21:40
you just build it until
21:42
you just you have that
21:44
orgasm those muscles are going to push
21:47
out those powerful pelvic floor
21:49
muscles are going to push out and
21:51
you'll just explode into
21:54
an orgasm. Yeah, and
21:56
you push out it wants to push
21:58
out what's ever in your vagina.
21:59
So take the toy out, take
22:02
the penis out.
22:03
That's it. That's exactly like my kind of orgasms
22:06
too. You push out, but we always think, oh, it should
22:08
be happening with the penis or how, what's
22:10
a good position for this? If we're talking about penetrative
22:13
sex, what do you view? The best to
22:15
learn
22:16
is to kneel next
22:19
to your bed, place your upper
22:22
torso on the top of your bed
22:24
or stand up.
22:26
Place your upper torso on
22:28
maybe counter height
22:31
or even a table so
22:33
that your upper torso is supported
22:37
and secure
22:40
because you got to move your hips and
22:42
you do it from behind. Yeah. Oh,
22:44
do it from behind yourself. Yeah. Because
22:47
you're, you're supporting your upper
22:49
body.
22:50
So it's secure and you're lying on
22:52
one arm. So you're
22:54
free here to do
22:56
it from behind or even from in front. Even
23:00
if you're with a partner, what if you're with a partner? Same
23:02
position.
23:03
Okay. Same position from behind. And
23:06
women are moving their hips. Women
23:08
are feeling that pleasure. Yeah.
23:10
And they're, they have more control too because
23:13
they can also jump off the penis.
23:16
Okay. This is so great. I want to go
23:18
back. There's so much here.
23:19
There is, can I just say that for
23:21
a minute? There is a lot to
23:24
it. It is not a simple little thing, but
23:26
it's also not hard and I
23:28
make it accessible. You really do make it
23:30
accessible. And this is the area where
23:33
I, I
23:33
just think it's, it's hands on literally.
23:37
And it's just rewiring our
23:39
brains around what is possible. I mean, I,
23:41
again,
23:41
I know this because I've taken the work, but so
23:43
many of us haven't, or we just focus
23:46
on the clitoris. So let's get to squirting because I know
23:48
a female ejaculation.
23:50
We asked our Instagram and
23:52
we got like 50 questions within
23:54
like 20 minutes. So when you squirt,
23:56
does that mean you orgasm?
23:59
ejaculation are two different
24:02
functions. Ejaculation
24:05
is a release of fluid.
24:08
Orgasm is, as we know, pleasure.
24:11
So and you can also orgasm without
24:13
ejaculating, and you can ejaculate without orgasm.
24:16
Yes. You can ejaculate
24:18
before orgasm, during orgasm,
24:21
or after orgasm, or not ejaculate
24:23
at all.
24:25
So can all women squirt? That's
24:27
the next question. All women can
24:29
ejaculate because all women have a prostate.
24:33
Female ejaculation is prostatic fluid.
24:35
Therefore, all women can ejaculate
24:37
if you want to. OK. Are
24:40
there certain positions to hit the G-spot
24:42
better? The best position
24:44
to hit the G-spot is to know
24:47
where she is located. Find
24:50
her, right. Then you'll know your best position. Exactly.
24:53
You position yourself. Exactly.
24:57
So that brings me to the next question. I have a hard
24:59
time explaining to my boyfriend exactly
25:02
how to hit my G-spot and then actually make me squirt
25:04
using his hands. Can you explain in simpler
25:06
terms?
25:08
Well, that's like dancing backward
25:10
in high heels. I mean,
25:13
he doesn't need to use his hands
25:15
for you to ejaculate. That's something
25:19
that porn started, and
25:21
it's gotten way out of control. I mean,
25:24
he uses his penis. That's why
25:26
a man's got a penis. So
25:29
mostly, he just needs to slow down.
25:32
And when you're ready to ejaculate, he
25:34
needs to come out of your vagina.
25:36
Your pelvic floor muscles are going to
25:38
push him out because your body's full
25:40
of ejaculate. Your muscles are just going
25:42
to take
25:43
over and push it out. That
25:45
penis has to come out. Most women
25:48
cannot ejaculate with something in
25:50
their vagina.
25:52
30% of women like
25:54
the on-top position, and they,
25:56
for some reason, can ejaculate
25:59
in the on-top.
25:59
top position. But most
26:02
women can't. Right. Because they're
26:04
not doing that. Exactly. Because then it's kind of coming
26:06
out of you. My wife can
26:08
only squirt through oral. How can
26:10
I help her do it during intercourse?
26:12
Awareness. Using
26:15
the penis. Knowing what you're touching with
26:17
your penis. An awakened penis on
26:19
an awakened G-spot is going to be
26:21
electric.
26:22
How
26:24
to get over the feeling that I'm going to pee and
26:26
stop that sensation. So this is why
26:28
we don't do it because we're so afraid we're going to pee.
26:31
So how do we talk about it? That's right. We mistake
26:33
the urge to ejaculate for the urge
26:35
to pee. How do we know? We just
26:37
practice.
26:38
We've been told that female ejaculation
26:40
doesn't exist. So if we feel that that
26:43
pee urge, what else is it? It's pee.
26:46
Well, it's because we haven't known that
26:48
no, it's ejaculate. And as you ejaculate,
26:50
you get to distinguish between the two,
26:52
but it is subtle.
26:54
If you are aroused
26:56
and you're having intercourse
26:59
of one type or another, penis,
27:01
toy, fingers, and
27:04
you feel that urge to pee, that
27:06
is the urge to ejaculate. Just
27:09
let go. Let it flow. Let
27:11
go and let it flow. And if it is, how about this
27:13
though? What's the liquid made of and where does
27:15
it come from when women squirt? Everyone wants to know, is
27:17
it pee? Isn't it pee? There's been all these studies. And
27:20
I'm always like, who the hell cares? Does it
27:22
feel good? No towel down. That's
27:24
right. I don't get caught up in it. But tell me
27:26
what
27:26
we will ask you. What is it made of? Is it pee?
27:29
What's your answer to that? Female ejaculate
27:31
is prostatic fluid. Therefore,
27:34
it's 90% prostatic fluid and 10% glucose.
27:38
What's in prostatic fluid? Just
27:40
the same as what's in the male
27:43
prostatic fluid. It's the food
27:45
and the nutrients and the protective
27:48
environment, i.e. alkaline,
27:50
for the sperm when they get their way to
27:53
the egg. So is
27:55
female ejaculation. That
27:56
is its biological function
27:59
is to protect that. that sperm. So
28:01
it's full of vitamins, nutrients.
28:05
So what about the traces of urine? I'm just
28:07
going to ask. Oh, that happens sometimes.
28:09
I mean, mostly women
28:12
who are first learning, if
28:14
you have traces of urine, don't
28:16
worry about it. The best analogy isn't
28:19
the prettiest, but you know, it's like a pump
28:22
that needs to be primed. And I mean, the water
28:24
that first comes out, isn't the best looking.
28:28
Be nice to yourself. Just forget
28:30
about the whole urine thing until
28:33
you have this working in your body. Also,
28:36
women are pushing too hard.
28:38
They want that ejaculate to come out and
28:40
so they're pushing too hard. So it's better
28:42
to relax, let it slowly build,
28:45
and then it'll just kind of
28:46
come out of the body. Yes. Yes.
28:49
So
28:49
how about this? How should you talk about it with a partner
28:52
and prep for cleanup in a way that's still sexy?
28:54
I get a lot of the cleanup questions and it's too
28:56
messy. Do you have any recommendations? Well, this
28:58
is the thing with when you ejaculate, you
29:00
got to prepare. You know, we don't always want
29:02
to prepare for sex. And, you
29:05
know, we used to have hang ups around it like, oh
29:07
my God, if I prepare, I spoil the mood.
29:09
Well, you get one of those beautifully
29:11
female ejaculation blankets. Invest
29:15
in that and throw it on the bed. You
29:17
know, it's beautiful and comfortable.
29:19
And that's what
29:19
you do. Yeah. And then you put it in the wash. That's
29:22
right. Build the ejaculate along
29:25
with the pleasure.
29:26
You can actually feel that ejaculate
29:29
building in your body. Sometimes it goes
29:32
out. That is just like the tide.
29:34
It just went out. It doesn't mean it's not there.
29:36
It's there. And it's going to come back
29:39
in with more pleasure, you
29:41
know, until one just explodes
29:43
out with the orgasm. The biggest
29:46
obstacle to women not ejaculating
29:48
is the sphere of letting go. The sphere
29:50
of pee. Yeah. OK. That's
29:52
the biggest obstacle. The second obstacle.
29:55
Well,
29:56
that has to do with the orgasm. It's
29:59
letting the wild. woman out. This
30:01
is not your tiny Victorian orgasm.
30:03
No, we're like, it's those
30:06
deep, lateral. Yeah.
30:08
Women Around with the Wolves, you know, that great
30:10
book by Jungian analyst, Clarissa
30:13
Pinkola is stay women around
30:15
with the wolves. This is your wild woman.
30:18
You know, and that Vegas nerve is
30:20
emotional by nature. So it's
30:22
also an emotional orgasm. You're gonna
30:25
scream, you're gonna emote
30:27
your pleasure, you know, sometimes
30:29
you can laugh and cry
30:32
and it's emotional. Women love
30:34
that. That's there. That's it. It's
30:36
a relief. Yeah, it is emotional.
30:38
I feel like as I've gotten more accepting
30:41
and as I've matured through
30:43
my life, my orgasms are so much louder
30:45
and so much more powerful. Right.
30:48
You have to be with a partner that like that's the thing.
30:51
It's like we have
30:52
to be with someone that you feel safe
30:54
with that you can let go and trust and if you're not
30:57
and your words are going to judge you and there
30:59
they have judged you then that
31:01
might not be your person. That's
31:03
right. So therefore you can't
31:05
say I can't do this. It's like no,
31:07
that's not totally accurate. You just
31:09
don't have the right circumstances.
31:12
Right. It's a circumstances of patience
31:14
and time and
31:15
partner and the right
31:17
partner. So we could read an email
31:20
from somebody,
31:21
Kevin 45, New Jersey. I want to help
31:23
my younger girlfriend in her 20s how
31:25
to be a vaginal squirter. She wants to do this
31:27
for me and I want to help her. Where can I learn
31:30
this technique and help my partner achieve it? And
31:32
then we got another one from a man and a lot
31:34
of men want their partners to do it.
31:37
It's all that these men's obsession but their partners
31:40
have to be on board with it and it starts with that's right.
31:42
That's right. Sometimes guys,
31:45
you know, it's not a shiny new toy,
31:47
you know, and sometimes their woman
31:49
will ejaculate and they want her to
31:51
do it over and over and over again because
31:54
you stimulate the prostate. It secretes.
31:57
It's a secretion gland, you know,
31:59
so you can
31:59
ejaculate over and over again, but hey,
32:02
you know, this ain't a shiny new car.
32:04
This is an organ of the body. So like,
32:07
be respectful, lay off,
32:09
you know, this is also inherently
32:12
about connection with your partner. This is
32:14
about love and ladies, especially
32:17
the younger ladies respect your body.
32:19
Don't give in to that male
32:22
pressure to perform for
32:24
them. It's like, forget it, chill.
32:27
Tell them to get into their own
32:29
prostate. Okay. Exactly.
32:32
And someone else says, is squirting orgasm
32:35
the best orgasm you can give a woman?
32:37
Yes. You say yes. Yeah.
32:41
Mm-hmm. It's pretty amazing when it happens
32:43
and I haven't been this conscious about it,
32:45
but I really saw it from our
32:47
early on. It's like, it's really just starting with that, with
32:50
the slowing down. It's not going to, I mean, maybe it'll
32:52
magically happen through intercourse, but
32:54
I don't know. It really
32:56
is this, this is snowing. You got to learn
32:58
how to drive the car first. You could go out, you
33:00
got to learn the, how the machinery, you got to look
33:03
under the hood.
33:04
Let's talk about penis size for a second, because
33:06
people think it has to be a very large penis
33:08
that's going to,
33:09
and it's not. Some
33:11
women like pressure. You can
33:13
have a large penis. It'll
33:15
apply pressure on
33:18
the G-spot. That will feel
33:20
good, but let's get clear. It's
33:22
just pressure that she's liking. She
33:25
could also learn how
33:27
to enjoy the
33:29
massage.
33:31
Massage. Let's not call it stimulation,
33:34
because that's like connected
33:36
to the fast buzzing. Let's
33:38
call it massage to the G-spot
33:41
with the penis.
33:42
Mm.
33:43
Yes, it is a massage. That's how it,
33:45
that's how it happens. Okay, listeners, this
33:48
might be a little repetitive, but Deborah, say
33:50
I'm at one of your workshops. How do you
33:52
actually help vulva owners find
33:55
their G-spot? I take them through
33:57
like a meditation practice.
33:59
to slowly identify
34:02
the head, the body, and back of the
34:04
prostate with their finger.
34:07
I'm like you saw it now with your eye.
34:10
Now slowly go around
34:13
the meaty area that surrounds
34:16
the urethral canal.
34:18
Put your finger very slow,
34:21
very tender. Everybody
34:24
wants to rub it and go really fast. It's like
34:26
guess what? Millimeter
34:29
by millimeter, ever
34:32
so slow.
34:33
Well, everything changes
34:36
when you do that. And from the urethral,
34:39
then you go with your finger
34:41
slowly down to the vaginal
34:44
opening. That's all the prostate
34:47
under that tissue there.
34:49
So it's just at the opening
34:52
and just two inches in. What
34:55
is that? That's the first knuckle.
34:57
Yeah, people think it's so deep. That's
34:59
the knuckle and a
35:00
half. We're going way in there and
35:03
pounding away at her. No! This
35:06
is what I've been saying for years. They're pounding,
35:08
pounding. It's not deep inside. It's out of the
35:10
belly button. It is an inch and a half
35:12
to two inches inside. And I think people are
35:14
still even going in. They don't get what
35:16
that is up to your knuckle. And
35:18
when I discovered mine, I was like, oh, it's just
35:20
right. It's literally like it's that
35:23
why we always say that come-heather motion is because it's
35:25
like going toward your belly button. It's like that
35:27
little, you just feel it's right there.
35:29
It's like on the flip side
35:30
of your tiller. It's like it's... Yes,
35:33
it's right there. We thought it was this tiny
35:35
spot that somewhere in the deep
35:37
oceanic recesses of the vagina
35:39
was a spa and some women
35:41
had it and some women didn't. And
35:44
only the right man will come
35:46
along and find it for us and blast
35:48
us off the planet. No, it's just
35:51
a total myth. It's a total myth.
35:53
We got to find it first. People are like,
35:55
oh, we got to teach sex ed. And when women come
35:58
to me first, they go, how do I be a great lover? I'm like, first?
35:59
you got to do the work on yourself.
36:02
When you become a master of your own body and
36:04
your own domain, then you can share that with
36:07
a partner.
36:08
Or you find a partner, and I love it in
36:10
your book, Female Ejaculation and the G-spot,
36:12
you could do it with a partner. Like there are tips in here to do
36:14
with a partner, but if you don't have a partner, your partner's
36:17
not in, I think it's less pressure perhaps,
36:19
it's on your own. So now we're
36:21
inside and we've seen it peek out and then you're just
36:23
saying we touch it with a finger,
36:25
then you'll become more- Yes, because it's
36:27
a process of awareness. Once
36:30
you know and see and have felt
36:32
with your finger. Okay, I saw
36:35
this G-spot stick out.
36:37
Now I shut my eyes
36:39
and I locate that with my finger.
36:43
I feel what it's like to
36:45
touch it with my finger
36:47
and I feel what it's like
36:49
to have a finger touch my
36:52
G-spot's body, right?
36:55
This is all awareness, I do not
36:57
go fast. Right. I
36:59
take women through this very slowly.
37:02
I don't think I even ever really looked
37:04
at my vulva puppet in this way that
37:06
like
37:07
there's- Your G-spot? I
37:09
never even knew my vulva puppet's G-spot. I
37:11
just- I know.
37:14
We find our G-spot, no pressure orgasm or
37:16
to ejaculate, but you found that-
37:18
No, this is awareness. Awareness, the first
37:20
day's awareness. We're finding it, we have
37:22
a bit of a ways to go to orgasm
37:25
yet.
37:25
We have performance issues,
37:28
we have impatience issues. We have
37:30
to go really- We are trained to go really, really
37:32
fast. We want that pleasure now, we want
37:35
this now. It's like, nope.
37:37
Okay, so we're articulating
37:39
something that has not had a
37:41
name, it doesn't exist. That
37:44
is what I do. We're gonna articulate this
37:46
millimeter by millimeter. You will
37:49
have no doubt about your G-spot
37:51
after that. You will
37:53
own her forever. That's
37:56
empowerment, yes, me. I
37:58
think so too.
37:59
for your own orgasm. We are responsible
38:02
for it. I mean, I gotta be honest. I
38:04
rush through it sometimes too. If
38:06
I'm masturbating. Yes,
38:08
you will feel more because you relax.
38:11
That's the thing too. We're so polite.
38:13
Yeah, we're goal oriented. Get me there. But
38:16
yeah. Yeah.
38:17
When a woman relaxes, she
38:20
feels arousal,
38:22
something like that. Yeah,
38:25
it's true. Because it's okay to go
38:27
fast. There's more. Yes,
38:29
there is more. So then we find
38:32
this. We're still going here. We're still on it.
38:34
And then we start to get around.
38:36
It starts to swell, right? It will.
38:38
It will. But it's not instant.
38:41
This is just awareness and
38:43
location. So we're just
38:45
going to locate her inside the body
38:48
now, right inside the
38:50
vagina, just with the first knuckle
38:53
that we know that
38:55
body. Okay, I can feel her ridges.
38:59
Oh, and she kind of hangs down
39:02
through the roof of the vagina like a
39:04
half moon. So
39:06
on each side of that half moon
39:09
is kind of like the little canals I call
39:11
them. So you know, okay,
39:13
I can feel on each side where she
39:16
hangs down. And
39:18
now I'm starting to notice, oh,
39:21
the body's kind of squishy.
39:23
Oh, and the temperature,
39:26
temperature is cool.
39:29
Some women it's warm, some women
39:31
it's hot. What is the temperature?
39:33
And what's the texture?
39:36
Is it rough? Is it
39:38
smooth? Is it rough like a cat's tongue?
39:41
You know, so we noticed this temperature
39:44
texture.
39:45
We all have a G spot just
39:48
like we all have a nose.
39:49
But everybody's nose is kind of different.
39:52
But the nose is in the same place on the face.
39:55
The G spot is in the same place
39:58
in every single woman on the planet. See?
40:01
And so, so that's the
40:03
body. And so we go a little farther
40:06
back, staying connected to her.
40:08
By that I mean, don't lift up
40:10
your fingers. Stay connected so you
40:12
know where you are at. Okay.
40:15
And as you go knuckle in a half back,
40:17
your finger's going to start to curl.
40:20
And it's going to curl around the back
40:23
end of this organ and hangs down
40:25
through the roof of the vagina.
40:28
See? And here's the thing. On
40:30
the back,
40:31
you can have either round
40:34
and firm, or you can have
40:36
one that's ramp shaped and fluffy.
40:39
And I mean fluffy like clouds
40:41
fluffy. So
40:44
we go back now millimeter
40:46
by millimeter from the body.
40:50
Ever so slow. Millimeter
40:53
by breathe and relax, relax our
40:55
body. Relax our
40:57
fingers. We carry so much tension.
41:00
Relax, relax. Now millimeter.
41:01
All right. Now
41:03
I'm coming to the back. Oh
41:06
yeah. My G-spot's brown
41:08
and firm. What about
41:10
your G-spot? Emily,
41:12
is yours ramp shaped and fluffy like
41:15
cotton candy? I think it is a little bit
41:17
more fluffy like cotton candy. Yeah.
41:19
It can be amazing feeling
41:22
of fluffiness. Yeah.
41:25
We've noticed the structure there. We
41:28
noticed the temperature was hot. And
41:32
mine is hot. It could be cool
41:35
for another lady. And
41:37
so then we slowly, ever so
41:40
slow,
41:41
draw our finger from the back
41:44
across the body. Ever
41:46
so slow.
41:47
And then we slowly come out. Let
41:50
our finger fall from the vagina.
41:53
Ever so slow. And then we cup
41:55
our vulva with our hand.
41:58
I love the cupping.
41:59
Yeah,
42:01
relax our vulva into our hand.
42:05
Okay, and then we send
42:07
our G-spot, our
42:09
beautiful prostate. Big
42:14
thank you with the breath.
42:16
Yeah, now we slowly come
42:19
back into our space
42:22
here. Sure, you know, you can go
42:24
right for it, but I'm not teaching that.
42:27
Emily, I'm teaching tender loving care
42:29
because she needs that. I'm teaching
42:31
to slow way down
42:33
because that's what the vagus nerve needs.
42:36
The vagus nerve is the meditation
42:38
nerve.
42:39
It's the antidote to the fight and flight.
42:42
So that vagus nerve slows us
42:44
way down. That's why we breathe and
42:46
relax. So that's the nerve
42:49
that goes to the prostate. That's the
42:51
orgasm you're going to have is
42:53
from this powerful vagus nerve.
42:56
It starts out slow and ends with a bang.
43:01
So we do that and the orgasm comes from just
43:04
continuing and breathing and
43:06
stroking.
43:07
Deborah Sundahl, your book is Female
43:09
Ejaculation and the G-spot. So
43:12
everyone should get this book. We're going to put it in the show notes so
43:14
people can buy your book. You are
43:16
the goddess here and this is incredible
43:18
work that you're doing. And I want to
43:20
know about this. Thanks.
43:24
Yeah, thank you. I can't hear that. It's incredible.
43:27
And there aren't many women doing it. I'm talking
43:29
about it specifically, but you are doing the hands
43:31
on work and teaching women. I always say
43:33
we're responsible for our own orgasm. Oh, I have to ask
43:35
you the five questions we ask all of our guests
43:37
to. Okay. Okay. Number
43:40
one, which are just quickie questions. They're quick. So what's
43:42
your biggest turn on?
43:43
The G-spot. No, biggest
43:45
turn off. Fast.
43:48
Yes. What makes
43:50
good sex? Eye connection. What
43:54
would you tell your younger self about sex
43:56
and relationships? Slow down. I'm
43:58
both cows.
43:59
What
44:02
do you wish everyone knew about sex? That
44:05
women have a prostate and that it's
44:07
just overflowing with pleasure
44:09
and effervescent ejaculate.
44:13
Thank you so much, Deborah, for being here. You're
44:16
welcome. How can people find you? The best way to
44:18
find you is on your website,
44:20
DeborahSundell.com. That's
44:22
correct. DeborahSundell.com. S-U-N-D-A-H-L.
44:27
And this will all be in our show notes.
44:29
Thank you for being here. Oh, you're
44:31
quite welcome. Pleasure. Happy orgasms.
44:33
Happy orgasms. That's it for today's
44:36
episode. See you on Tuesday. Thanks
44:38
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