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Hi.

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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over

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twenty five years, I've been on a journey

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to prove the existence of life after

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death. On each episode,

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we'll discuss the reasons we now

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know that our loved ones have survived

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physical debt, and so will

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we. Welcome to Shades

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of the Afterlife. I'd like to start off

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this episode today by saying thank

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you. Thank you for listening

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to this podcast, thank you for sharing

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it, thank you for downloading it however

1:12

it is you digest it. Thank

1:14

you. Shades of the Afterlife has

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now become the most downloaded

1:19

afterlife podcast in the

1:21

world, and you know, if you've been

1:23

listening for quite some time. I have

1:26

a sincere passion to share

1:28

the best evidence so that you

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believe that your loved ones live

1:33

on, that you will see them again, and

1:35

that your life matters.

1:38

A couple days ago, on our Free Sunday

1:41

gathering, I was introducing

1:43

the portion of the service and

1:45

the mediums, and I heard myself

1:47

saying that mediums are

1:50

out on the skinny branches. They

1:52

are trusting the information that

1:54

is coming into their being, into

1:57

their thoughts and memories and even

2:00

sometimes tastes and smells, that

2:02

they trust that they are coming

2:04

from the spirit world to deliver

2:06

a message to someone in the audience.

2:09

Going through a bit of medium training

2:12

myself, it is scary. Things

2:14

that come to mind seem like our imagination,

2:18

but with that courage to verbalize,

2:20

very often the recipient says, I

2:23

can understand that information. It's

2:26

not an easy job being a medium, and

2:28

it dawned on me that I am my

2:31

own form of medium. Delivering

2:33

this information to you, giving

2:36

you the latest research is

2:38

my contribution to humanity.

2:41

If you're new on this show, or maybe you haven't

2:43

heard this story of mine. Back in

2:45

two thousand and two, I took a

2:48

transformational course called Power

2:51

and Contribution, and the idea

2:53

is, if you give your life to something

2:56

big, then the

2:58

problems in your life become

3:00

small and you have the capability

3:02

of doing something extraordinary.

3:05

Some people picked ending homelessness,

3:08

some people picked ending world

3:10

hunger. And you can kind of get

3:12

it right. When you give yourself to

3:14

something so big and you start

3:17

volunteering and making a difference,

3:19

then yeah, helping other people

3:22

really reduces our own

3:24

suffering. We all had to make a

3:26

bold declaration. And at that time

3:29

I was just beginning to get

3:31

evidence of the afterlife, and these

3:33

declarations had to be something you

3:35

were passionate about, of course, And

3:38

so I made the bold declaration

3:40

back in two thousand and two and

3:43

I said, by the year twenty

3:45

twenty seven, all people will

3:47

know we are divine souls having

3:49

a human experience, and that we

3:52

don't die. Those

3:54

words came out of my mouth, they

3:56

went in my notebook. And although

3:58

I enjoyed the course, I never

4:00

really had the intention of

4:02

making that dream a reality. But

4:05

somehow it happened. Somehow

4:08

I met like minded people. My

4:10

dad and my grandmother passed,

4:12

and I learned about grief and

4:15

knew the information I had

4:17

could change lives as

4:19

miracles happen, I meet a publisher,

4:22

pitch my story. My book

4:24

We Don't Die was born. In

4:27

twenty fourteen, I started

4:29

my first podcast, We Don't

4:31

Die Radio, that still exists

4:34

today, just interviewing people

4:36

one on one. And I started

4:38

that podcast in

4:40

all honesty because I didn't

4:42

want to invest the time and

4:44

money in buying people's books

4:46

to learn more about the afterlife. So

4:49

I figured if I could interview people

4:51

share their information, it would

4:54

be a win win situation for

4:56

everyone. Little did I know

4:58

many years later, I'd get call from

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Tom dan Heiser wondering if

5:03

I could be the host of Shades

5:05

of the Afterlife for their new iHeartRadio

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and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

5:11

podcast network. And

5:13

who can say no to them? Author

5:16

Richard Bach has a great quote, you

5:18

are never given a dream without

5:21

also being given the power

5:23

to make it come true. You may

5:25

have to work for it, however, that's

5:28

one of my favorite quotes. And

5:31

now twenty two years

5:33

later, I realize I

5:36

am this woman with this bold declaration.

5:39

I feel you are my partner in this no

5:41

doubt, because you're listening and

5:43

looking for evidence yourself. But

5:46

more than that, you're sharing this

5:48

show. When enough people share,

5:51

the ripple effect can happen. So

5:53

you want to help me on this journey. It's

5:56

twenty twenty four and I have only

5:58

three years left accomplish

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that promise that all people know

6:03

that we don't die. I honestly

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do feel sometimes among the scary branches.

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If you're a first time listener, you may think,

6:11

who is this girl? She's crazy with

6:13

some of the concepts in afterlife

6:16

information. I share with you

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another quote I absolutely love is

6:21

by German philosopher Arthur

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Schopenhauer, and he said, all

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truth passes through three stages.

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First it is ridiculed. Second,

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it is violently opposed. Third,

6:35

it is accepted as being self

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evident. And when you think about

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big things that have changed the

6:42

course of history, even the airplane,

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you know those right brothers, They were ridiculed.

6:48

People thought it was impossible for

6:50

a human to fly through the air. And

6:53

when Schopenhauer says, it is

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accepted as being self evident. Here

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we are in twenty twenty four, or in airplane

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travel is regular. I

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know in my heart of hearts

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that the belief of the afterlife

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is going through the same process.

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Believe it or not. More people on planet

7:14

Earth believe in the afterlife than

7:16

don't, but so many, including

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myself, have been scared to

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share our beliefs based on

7:23

what will other people think of us? Will

7:25

we lose our friends if they think I

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believe in this. Although there are

7:30

TV shows, podcasts,

7:32

books about the afterlife,

7:35

a lot of people are still in that stage

7:38

thinking of ridicule, thinking

7:41

near death experiences must just be when

7:43

the brain is shutting down. There is no

7:45

proof of the afterlife, But oh, my

7:47

friend, there is. I'm

7:50

pretty confident that I got

7:52

this mission, or chose this mission to share

7:55

the evidence of the afterlife because I never

7:57

believed in this myself, so coming from

7:59

a scat it helps to

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get the new information from

8:04

science and medicine about the

8:06

reality of the afterlife. And

8:08

the day is coming sooner

8:10

than later. And yes, I believe

8:12

in our lifetime where that ripple effect

8:14

will happen, where people, as

8:17

Schopenhauer says, will accept

8:19

the reality of the afterlife as

8:22

self evident like it's always

8:24

been. That we know our loved ones are

8:26

around, that we can communicate

8:29

with them, it will most certainly

8:31

ease our grieving process, and

8:33

most importantly, think of the life

8:36

when we know we can never die,

8:38

we can go after our dreams, we

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can fail, we can pick ourselves up,

8:43

and we know it's all education

8:46

for the soul. My genuine

8:48

wish is that you feel

8:51

and know the presence

8:53

of your loved ones around

8:56

you, that you witness

8:58

the miraculous experiences

9:01

that no one can take away

9:03

from you. You can probably

9:05

tell that I'm interviewing less

9:07

and less mediums these days.

9:10

While having a good evidential medium

9:13

reading can be quite beneficial,

9:16

there are far too many mediums that charge

9:18

too much money and they're not very

9:20

good for me. Good

9:23

evidence through mediumship is

9:25

taking your own class and

9:27

realizing as a powerful

9:29

soul having a human experience.

9:32

You can deliver messages to a person

9:34

from their loved one. When you have that

9:36

aha experience and you're

9:39

giving information that you couldn't possibly

9:41

know, that's a way to know

9:44

the afterlife is real. We've

9:46

talked a lot lately about dream

9:48

visitations and also automatic

9:51

writing. These are experiences

9:53

you have that you feel,

9:56

maybe even see and hear your

9:58

loved one to them,

10:01

getting a response even though it came

10:03

from your own handwriting that you're sure

10:05

came from your loved one. What

10:08

a difference that makes today

10:10

on the show, I'd like to get back

10:12

to one of my favorite topics,

10:15

which is physical mediumship and

10:17

the home circle. This is

10:20

the most rare form of spirit

10:23

communication. Does it still

10:25

exist today, Yes,

10:28

but mainly behind closed doors.

10:30

So I want to tell you some stories and

10:33

perhaps get you interested in

10:36

either starting a home circle or

10:39

starting to sit for yourself

10:42

on behalf of the spirit world and

10:44

let them work with you to

10:46

develop your soul as a receiver.

10:49

For me, this is the topic that scares

10:52

me the most to share about because

10:54

it seems so unbelievable

10:56

and current day there are frauds

10:58

out there doing so ridiculous

11:01

things trying to convince people that

11:03

they are real physical mediums. To

11:05

get some more of the history, I invite you to go

11:07

back to some past episodes Episode

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seventeen, Seances and Ghostbusters

11:14

episode fifty six, The Skull

11:16

Experiments Episode fifty

11:18

eight. A physicist shares his

11:21

experiences Episode

11:23

eighty three. Our good friend Scott

11:25

Milligan shares his beginning and

11:27

his path into his twenty five years

11:30

of service for the spirit world. Episode

11:33

one three to two. The Home Circle

11:35

with legendary medium Stuart

11:37

Alexander. Episode one

11:40

three six, The Great Arthur

11:42

Finley episode one five nine,

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What Happens in the Seance Room and

11:47

you can actually listen to a real

11:49

seance, and most recently

11:52

episode one six seven Living

11:55

Proof of Life after Death. You

11:57

can easily go to Shades of the

11:59

app Afterlife dot com and

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scroll down and find all

12:04

of those episodes. I have

12:06

a special set of audios

12:08

that was compiled by Stuart

12:10

Alexander back in the nineties

12:13

of spiritualists telling

12:16

their stories of what happened

12:18

in these seances and home circles.

12:21

If you'd like the complete set,

12:23

just go to the Scott Billigan page

12:26

at We Don't Die dot com.

12:28

You'll actually be able to hear people's

12:30

voices telling their own stories.

12:33

I've transcribed one of the stories

12:36

that i'll read to you today. We'll

12:38

hear from physical medium Scott

12:40

Milligan. And there's been

12:42

lots of questions coming up on

12:44

the state of the world today, of

12:47

course, fear and worry, and I want

12:49

you to hear what the spirit world has

12:51

to say about it. Let's go to the

12:53

break and we'll be back. You're

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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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I'm Sandra Champlain. We're

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going to talk now about home circles

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and the seances of physical mediums.

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And this is as hard as

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it is to believe a true thing that

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I have witnessed many times

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myself. This story comes

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from mister Eugene Woods about

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his experience with a medium

14:36

named Chris. This story

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is told in nineteen ninety four, when

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Jean Woods would be about seventy

14:44

seven years old. Jean

14:46

spent two years of his life in

14:48

England and served with the

14:50

American Air Force during the Second

14:52

World War. He came from a family

14:55

of spiritualists. The medium

14:58

he simply refers to as Chris.

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At this seance, my sister and I were

15:04

called to the center of the floor where

15:06

my mother materialized. We

15:08

got to hold her hands. She even

15:10

kissed us on the cheek. She put

15:12

her arms over our shoulders,

15:15

and then she stepped back a foot or two

15:18

and said, let me see. I think

15:20

we have enough strength here, and she cleared

15:22

the veiling away from her face. She

15:25

said, can you see me? And

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we looked directly into her

15:29

face while she was talking,

15:32

animated, not like a statue,

15:34

and it was the perfect face of our

15:36

mother as we last knew her. There

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were also a few times that they tried

15:41

to bring my mother and my father out together,

15:43

but they just could not emerge from the cabinet.

15:46

There wasn't enough energy. There were

15:48

other times that we had excellent, fully

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materialized forms. One

15:53

was an American Indian who would

15:55

have been from the Western Plains. According

15:58

to his style of dress, you could see

16:00

the color of his flesh. It was the

16:02

bronzy type brown. You could

16:04

see the beaded band around his head

16:07

with a few feathers from the crown of

16:09

his head, the braid of hair coming

16:11

down over his chest, and wearing

16:13

a loincloth. It was the most

16:16

beautiful sight to see. It

16:18

was in full color and there was no mistaking

16:20

it. At another seance, an

16:22

Egyptian materialized. We could

16:24

see his beard, his hair, a

16:27

type of head dress, it had jewelry

16:29

on it, and he was wearing a long

16:31

cloak. It was a most beautiful

16:33

experience. Now, absolutely,

16:36

full color materializations

16:38

aren't that frequent. It depends

16:41

entirely on the type of vibration that's

16:43

in the room at the time, and it depends

16:46

on the physical condition of the medium, depends

16:48

on the weather, they say. But when we

16:50

do get to see them, it's really great. There

16:53

was one day in particular, I

16:55

had a few friends with me and my sister

16:58

and we were with Chris. This took

17:00

place in the basement of our church in

17:02

Dayton, Ohio. As I recall,

17:05

there were just five or six beautiful

17:08

visits from materialized

17:10

forms of our folks, our

17:12

loved ones. And then the man

17:14

who usually opens and closes his

17:17

seance is the name of doctor

17:19

Randolph. He materialized

17:22

and said he wanted to show us

17:24

what they can do. He

17:26

held his arms out stretched in

17:28

front of him as wide as

17:30

he could stretch them apart, and

17:32

with no motion of any kind.

17:35

You could start seeing the emanation

17:38

from both hands as if

17:40

he were holding a white sheet of cloth,

17:42

and it just gradually kept

17:45

building and building until

17:48

it was clear down to the floor. It

17:50

was a huge sheet. He

17:52

then said, this is a sheet

17:55

of ectoplasm, and then he took it

17:57

in his hands and waved it around

17:59

like a flat and as he held

18:01

it, he said, now I want

18:03

you to watch, and then it just disappeared.

18:07

With a blink of an eye, it was gone.

18:09

We all watched as he made

18:11

the sheet appear again in

18:14

the same manner. Now he did not

18:16

go back to the cabinet or anything. He

18:18

never left that particular position

18:21

on the floor. Things must

18:23

have been top condition in the room, and

18:25

with our energy that day because

18:27

of the different things he did for us, and

18:29

the red light that was on was bright enough

18:32

that everything was visible to everyone

18:34

in the room. It was amazing.

18:37

I know, the amount of light is very important

18:40

and it depends on the conditions at the time.

18:43

One young man and I were sitting next to

18:45

each other and Doctor Randolph

18:47

said, Jean, do you see the

18:49

trumpet across the room there. I

18:51

said yes. He said, would you

18:53

please go over and get the trumpet?

18:56

Bring it back and set it between your

18:58

legs, which I did. Doctor

19:01

Randolph said, I'm going to go back

19:03

into the cabinet and I'll return in a moment.

19:06

So we sat there and just chit chatted

19:09

between ourselves when suddenly,

19:12

out of the trumpet between us. Was

19:14

quite a shock as it happened,

19:17

a whole sheet, like a

19:19

bed sheet, went swoosh

19:22

and came out of the trumpet.

19:25

It just floated up and out into

19:27

the room. I know this sounds like

19:29

a fairy tale, but it was not. My

19:32

sister was there, and others. We

19:34

couldn't have all been hallucinating now.

19:37

That same day, Chris's mother,

19:40

who was in spirit, materialized

19:43

and made herself known. It

19:45

was the first time we'd ever met her. She

19:48

stood out and talked to us for a little

19:50

while, talked about things in the spirit

19:52

life, talked about her son Chris,

19:56

and she says, now we're

19:58

going to show you something that

20:00

you may not understand. She

20:03

asked me, Jeane, would you come

20:05

up here on the floor with me. I

20:07

said, certainly. I went up

20:09

to her. She said, don't be bashful,

20:13

take your hand and push it

20:15

into my mid section here. Feel

20:18

how solid I am, which

20:20

I did, and yes, she

20:22

was very solid. I said,

20:25

I feel you. I'm aware that you're

20:27

solid. She said she had the

20:29

ectoplasm draped over her,

20:32

and then she wished to show me her

20:34

astro body and said she had

20:36

to lower her vibration. She

20:39

said, will you come forward again now

20:41

that I have changed to my etheric body. To

20:44

me, she didn't appear different

20:46

at all. She still moved. We

20:49

could see her and she was talking.

20:52

She says, now I am in my etheric

20:54

body. Would you touch me again

20:56

in the same way, which I

20:58

did, and my hand went

21:01

into the center of nothing. My

21:04

hand and arm swept clear

21:06

back and forth through her. Even

21:08

though it appeared to be solid, there

21:11

was absolutely nothing to touch.

21:14

I said, well, that's quite a lesson. The

21:16

etheric body was just as

21:19

visible, yet there was nothing there.

21:21

It just appeared as smoke. And

21:24

I have to say this again. This may

21:26

sound like a fairy tale, and I've

21:28

never experienced anything like that before,

21:31

and maybe I never will again. But

21:34

it happened. There were many other

21:36

times when our loved ones

21:38

would come out and greet us, talk

21:40

with us, and spend some time with us.

21:43

Then they'd say, well it's time

21:45

to go now. I can't stay any

21:48

longer. Some would say, would

21:50

you like to see us disappear? And

21:52

of course our answer usually

21:54

was not really, but sure if

21:57

you'd like to. And at different times

21:59

we'd be staying face to face with them,

22:02

twelve or fifteen inches away. I'd

22:04

been holding their hands, talking with them,

22:07

and then it's like you turn a light

22:09

bulb off. They are

22:11

with you all of a sudden, standing

22:13

looking straight at them, and then the

22:16

next blink of an eye, there's

22:18

nothing there. They did not go back

22:20

into the cabinet, like I said,

22:22

just like you turn out the light, they were gone.

22:25

There is life after this life,

22:28

and that this life has a lot of

22:30

abilities, it still has knowledge,

22:33

it still has mind. They aren't

22:36

foolish demonstrations. They're

22:38

done with love. All I can say

22:40

is, let's hope that this

22:42

can continue going on someplace

22:45

for somebody, and it can be made more

22:47

public.

22:48

I want to.

22:48

Share one more story from Gene.

22:51

I have to abbreviate this because it's a little

22:53

bit lengthy, but basically this

22:56

medium Chris was going to move,

22:59

so he was going to do his last seance.

23:01

The basement in the church was small, however,

23:04

thirty to forty people wanted to attend,

23:07

so they rearranged the church, the

23:09

main church. They rearranged

23:12

the pews, and they put up room dividers

23:15

to create the cabinet,

23:18

and stretched some fabric over

23:20

it. He said, they hung up a light

23:23

somewhere that it wasn't too far away

23:25

from the cabinet, maybe ten or

23:27

twelve feet. And he continues,

23:30

and we went through the process of

23:32

every one of his seances. We

23:34

started saying the Lord's Prayer,

23:36

and then the favorite song we

23:39

sang is You are My Sunshine.

23:41

And lo and behold a being

23:43

stepped out from the center of the curtain,

23:46

stretched his arms out wide

23:48

to the side, almost like wings,

23:52

and then he proceeded to grow

23:54

and grow and grow in height,

23:57

and with I'm sure you could

23:59

image the gasps and the

24:01

ooze and the oz taking place. He

24:05

was at least as high as our ceiling

24:07

in the church, which had to be twelve

24:09

to fifteen feet, and the

24:12

arm span was completely from

24:14

wall to wall, a huge

24:17

spirit figure. And then slowly

24:19

and gradually the whole thing

24:22

just brought itself back down until

24:24

it was roughly six feet tall or

24:27

so. And then he spoke to us, and

24:29

it turned out to be the master Teacher,

24:32

a very eloquent speaker and beautiful

24:34

soul. He talked to us and

24:36

opened up the seance, and from

24:39

then on it was one constant

24:41

array, one materialized

24:43

figure after another coming

24:45

out and singing. They danced

24:48

up and down the aisle, danced among

24:50

us, and touched us and

24:52

greeted us. This went on

24:54

for the better part of an hour. One

24:56

of the most amazing was one

24:59

young lady materialized. She

25:02

was the sister of a man there,

25:04

and he was sitting at the end of the aisle.

25:07

This was at least fifteen

25:09

to twenty feet away from the cabinet.

25:12

She came up to her brother, sat

25:15

on his lap and talked to him, and

25:18

afterwards he mentioned, there's

25:20

no doubt in my mind who

25:23

that was. My goodness,

25:25

could you even imagine that happening

25:28

to you? And witnessing that the

25:30

things I've witnessed were in the dark with

25:32

a little bit of glow in the dark lighting

25:35

still impressive. Scott Milligan

25:37

is the expert on physical

25:40

mediumship. I know we've talked to him

25:42

before, and we'll hear some more words coming

25:44

up, but if you'd like to hear that

25:47

entire audio set, it's

25:49

called Stuart Alexander's

25:51

physical Seance Room Recollections.

25:54

It's a two volume set

25:57

that you can easily download. You

25:59

can find I'm That at the Scottmilligan page

26:01

at We Don't Die dot com.

26:04

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26:07

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26:10

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26:12

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27:37

I'm Sandra Champlain. When I found

27:40

out about physical mediumship and the

27:42

only one that I could find was a

27:44

young man named Scott Milligan over in

27:46

England, I took a trip all

27:48

by myself attended my first

27:51

workshop and seance back

27:53

in twenty and sixteen. I've

27:55

attended maybe two dozen of

27:57

these events with Scott, and for the

28:00

past four years he's taught classes

28:02

online, done a trance demonstration

28:04

almost every Friday, and I'm

28:06

so grateful that he's starting to

28:08

do these seances once again. Here's

28:11

his response when I asked him

28:14

about the physical materializations

28:17

he's witnessed.

28:18

Yes, I haven't seen what we call

28:20

full materialization. I've seen partial materialization.

28:24

And there's been a number of occasions.

28:27

One was just at hand floated

28:29

across the room and as that floated,

28:32

one foot went the other direction. It

28:34

was just like a foot going that way in the hand going that

28:36

way, and the hand turned and looked

28:38

at me. And was coming towards me, and I was going

28:41

because you're not abowle to properly move, So I'm

28:44

doing this trying to get my work

28:46

my way. From that, there was another

28:48

time when the red light was put on and

28:50

the curtains parted, and a baby's

28:52

head appeared and came out

28:54

of the cabinet and looked around the

28:56

room and then just collapsed

28:59

and went back him. There was

29:01

a time in Australia or

29:04

when I was sitting with another medium

29:06

and their hands were tied, and

29:09

the front of the cabinet was brought up

29:11

in light and you're able to see the

29:13

medium's hands, and then his hand

29:15

appeared from above the curtain and under

29:17

the curtains, so we were able to see four

29:20

hands, two be in the medium

29:22

and two be in the spirit people. There

29:24

was another time when a control

29:27

called White Sawing Bird was

29:30

preparing to come through, and

29:32

a gentleman called Williams said, would you

29:34

like to see White sawn Bird's headdress?

29:36

And of course we did not hesitate,

29:39

We said yes, do it please, And

29:41

all of a sudden, White Sawing Bird materialized

29:44

in full headdress and brought

29:46

his arms together, and as he brought his arms together, he

29:48

went ah, and as he pulled it apart, he illuminated

29:51

and you were able to see the headdress

29:54

with red feathers with brown tips,

29:56

or brown feathers with red tips. My

29:58

memory is a little bit vague on that moment

30:00

because I think it was like, oh, my goodness, I'm

30:03

seeing this. And when

30:05

the salance was over my

30:08

top, what I used to wear was a brown top, and

30:11

my brown top had bleach marks through

30:13

it, along with a hole directly

30:16

over the nipple area. And there

30:19

was a lady who had a red jump

30:21

on and that also had holes

30:23

all the way through it and bleached. I was

30:25

mortified because I had to catch the train from

30:28

Crawley back to Burgess Hill with

30:31

this moment going

30:33

on, and I was quite upset.

30:36

And I attended

30:38

the same medium sales

30:40

again later and I said, William,

30:43

salences are supposed to be constructive, not destructive.

30:46

When nou Last sat, my top

30:49

was destroyed.

30:49

Why was that?

30:50

And they said we had to take fibers

30:53

from your clothing color to imbude

30:56

within the ectoplasm. We asked

30:58

you if you would like to see this headdress.

31:00

You did not hesitate, and you said yes,

31:03

So we had to take the fibers. What

31:05

you should be doing is saying yes, William,

31:07

of course, but at what cost. So

31:10

we're being educated by the spirit work.

31:12

Then they suggested that

31:15

we bring in non scented flowers so

31:17

that they could take the

31:20

colors from the petals and buwed

31:22

it within the ectoplasm. I

31:25

remember seeing

31:28

the face illuminated on the

31:30

board. So we

31:32

have a luminous plaque about so

31:34

big, maybe a four paper or glows

31:36

in the dark, and the spirit people place their hands

31:39

over it, any different forms of hands,

31:42

and then I said, if you can do the hand, you

31:44

can do the feet. So the feet were shown,

31:47

and then being cheeky,

31:50

I said, if you could do the hand the feet, can

31:52

you do the face. And the plaque lifted

31:54

up and was placed underneath my chin, and

31:57

the spirit person then stood

32:00

opposite and placed their chin on

32:02

the board. And I was this far away, and

32:04

I was able to see complete detail of the

32:06

face, but I noticed

32:08

that they had a hood on, and

32:11

as the moved, I was able to

32:13

see their eyes, which were black as midnight.

32:16

And as the plaque

32:18

went over the head, the hood went back,

32:20

the eyes closed, the mouth closed, and

32:23

then all of a sudden they opened, and I was able to see

32:25

directly through the head at the black

32:27

so there was no eyeballs, and there was no

32:29

features within the mouth, but the mouth and the eyes were

32:31

moving, eyelids closing, and

32:34

I screamed. And then

32:36

it came back up. And as it came back up

32:38

and went underneath the chin, the face

32:40

collapsed inwards and then reformed as a woman

32:43

with curly hair and

32:46

darker skin. And it was a lady

32:48

called Marie, and Marie's

32:51

husband was sitting in the

32:53

circle, by the name of Nick.

32:56

Marie then turned to speak to her

32:58

husband on them last night.

33:00

Then not only did they talk, not only did

33:02

they hark, not only did they kiss. He was able

33:04

to see his wife's face. And

33:07

I don't expect you to believe anything I

33:09

say, because it's my truth,

33:12

my path. But I ask

33:14

you this, when you yourself

33:16

have seen something or

33:18

heard a voice that you recognize, you

33:21

move from believing to knowing, and nothing

33:23

will shape your core about

33:26

this, nothing under the sun.

33:29

I asked Scott if it's possible to

33:31

bring physical mediumship

33:33

back. This was the predominant

33:35

form of mediumship back in the mid

33:37

eighteen hundreds to early

33:40

nineteen hundreds, families would

33:42

get together, they'd sing. There

33:45

was no Internet, TV, social

33:47

media, and being together made the

33:49

perfect home for home

33:51

circles. Can we bring it back?

33:54

Here's what he said.

33:55

I think first of all, we've got to highlight

33:58

that our gifts going seasons, like

34:00

when the first wraps and taps came on

34:02

modern day spiritualism from eighteen forty

34:04

eight. And then there was

34:07

the great mediums that were able

34:09

to materialize the so called dead, and

34:11

then it became out of vogue

34:14

shaw we say, and it was mental mediums,

34:17

and then there was healers, then

34:19

there was precipitated artists, and

34:22

then it started to then snowball

34:25

back again with physical

34:27

mediumship. It's something that

34:29

takes time and dedication. But

34:32

you can have the perfect seed from the most

34:34

amazing plant, but the soil

34:36

is not good. It shouldn't grow or it will

34:39

not grow to its potential. So we

34:41

have mediums there, but we don't have the

34:44

right people to develop it. And

34:46

if I said to someone now that

34:48

you are going to be incarcerated

34:51

within a home circle on

34:53

a Pacific day and

34:56

you are not allowed to go anywhere else, and

34:58

you are to find your path to the spirit

35:00

world, I don't think we will get the dedication

35:03

because the distractions of

35:05

life have changed. Back

35:07

in its heyday, your entertainment

35:10

or your social thing was to sit with your family

35:13

around a roaring fire because

35:15

it was the only warm room in

35:17

the house, and you would be singing,

35:20

having conversations. Children

35:22

will be dozing because it's warm.

35:25

Then someone would feel the presence

35:27

and then lo and behold it

35:29

would take place. But even in

35:31

France when they were looking at table

35:34

phenomena, it became this

35:36

in thing of sitting for the

35:39

table and having the table move. And

35:41

I think the spirit world said, we can do

35:43

better. Everything

35:45

has to start with an idea, and it's

35:48

snowballs. We

35:50

were hurtling towards mass

35:52

exodus through World War

35:54

One. Then there was World

35:56

War Two, still mass

35:59

exodus, not only in the United Kingdom

36:01

but all over the world. There was disease,

36:05

and I think the spirit world said enough,

36:09

and I think the spirit world said, we've got

36:11

to intervene. So I

36:13

think the spirit world saw the potential

36:16

of war and then they

36:18

started to accelerate development

36:21

and people were called to serve. Liking

36:24

COVID, let's just passed or still

36:26

passing through us. The spirit

36:28

world called and said, we

36:31

need healers. We need people

36:33

to then work on their spirituality

36:36

to make the world a better place. And during

36:39

COVID, even though the storms and the fires

36:41

were burning, nature was thriving.

36:45

The rivers were becoming clean again,

36:47

the sky was becoming blue, the trees

36:49

were starting to grow stronger. Nature

36:52

was nurturing. But then

36:55

we were released and

36:57

we've gone back into our own old ways.

36:59

So I do think we can get it back if

37:02

the spirit world needs it back.

37:06

I genuinely do believe that they do need

37:08

it back. I think if we can

37:10

convince people, or let

37:13

me correct that, because I'm not here to prove

37:15

it. I'm here to create a condition,

37:18

and then the spirit world proves it. But

37:20

if people can move from believing

37:22

to knowing, I don't think

37:25

there'll be war because

37:27

they will have the realization that

37:30

life is sacred. Wouldn't

37:32

it be lovely to go back to the Alec Harris

37:35

days where Alec Harris used to demonstrate

37:38

to the school but the kids,

37:41

and then demonstrate for the adults in the evening,

37:44

and the kids grew up knowing of this wonderful

37:47

man that was able to materialize

37:49

the dead. In

37:52

our modern world, now we are

37:54

having firefighters have meditation where

37:57

they're teaching yoga in schools

38:00

along with mindfulness. So

38:02

I do believe the fires are there. I

38:05

think they needed to put a lot

38:08

into it back then, so

38:10

the fires catch and

38:13

we're still having that

38:15

warm glow Spiritualism because

38:17

at the heart of it, we must call ourselves spiritualists.

38:20

Spiritualism is a recognized religion. So

38:23

I think the spirit world said enough

38:26

of his falseness, now

38:28

we must work. So yes,

38:30

I do believe through the continuity

38:33

of home circle. I do

38:35

strongly believe that and know that

38:37

it's the backbone of what we

38:40

do.

38:41

There are three physical mediums I recommend

38:44

David Thompson, Stuart Alexander,

38:46

and Scott Milligan. David Thompson's

38:49

seances are more phenomena

38:52

with the occasional loved one that

38:54

comes through. Stuart Alexander

38:57

is in his retirement days,

39:00

so it is very rare to see him, and

39:02

Scott his passion is

39:04

reuniting loved ones beyond

39:07

the veil. Like I said, with evidential

39:09

mediumship, the best way to know it's

39:12

real is to experience it yourself.

39:14

Get involved, learn how to sit for

39:17

the spirit world. There are several

39:19

physical mediums out there who

39:22

will gladly take your money. As

39:24

Scott always says, look

39:26

for the intelligence from the spirit world.

39:30

Let's go to the break and we'll be back

39:32

with Scott Milligan in

39:34

trance in words from

39:37

the spirit world. You're listening

39:39

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39:54

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40:45

Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

40:48

I'm Sandra Champlain. If you've

40:50

listened to the show long enough, you know

40:52

I'm a big Scott Milligan fan. His

40:54

spirit person Eric has spoken to

40:56

us a number of times. Scott

40:58

is one of my best friend friends. Almost

41:01

every Friday online we do

41:03

a trance demonstration where you can

41:05

ask your questions to our friend in

41:07

the spirit world. You can always find

41:10

everything coming up with Scott retreats

41:12

with seances, online,

41:15

classes and events at

41:17

we Don't Die dot com just

41:19

click on the Scott Milligan page.

41:22

This past week on the Friday

41:24

demonstration, our friend Eric

41:27

asked me to share these words

41:29

about the state of the world. Eric

41:32

is a real person. He's been working

41:34

with Scott since Scott was just a teenager,

41:36

and he speaks through Scott when Scott

41:39

is in trance. So here

41:41

are his important words.

41:44

A few years in your world

41:46

to go, I spoke of

41:49

the time of change, preparing

41:52

each of you for what

41:54

was about to take place. We

41:57

spoke of the virus, and

42:00

we prepared you for it, even

42:03

though it took six to nine

42:06

months for your world to discover

42:08

it. We spoke

42:11

of dark times ahead,

42:15

separation. We spoke

42:17

of the earth will

42:20

retaliate if

42:22

you continue to hurt it.

42:25

The time of change is to

42:28

help the sentient being below

42:30

your feet. To a

42:32

voone, negativity

42:36

has existed through more

42:40

years than I care to share with

42:42

you. It is a beast

42:45

that has been man made.

42:48

Every time you think negative

42:51

faults, it feeds.

42:55

So, my friends, your

42:58

world to a

43:00

bowl. And in

43:02

this time, negativity

43:05

knew its days are numbered.

43:08

And like a cornered beast, it's

43:11

snarled, it's kicked

43:13

its bit, its thought

43:16

back. This is why you

43:18

have seen acceleration of

43:21

darkness in your world. This

43:24

is the final We

43:27

have been prepared you for it,

43:31

for we have seen within minds

43:34

of those who have made decisions

43:36

in your world. That

43:38

is why we knew a virus.

43:41

This is why we knew of the war,

43:44

because mankind was creating

43:47

it and we were

43:49

trying to slow it. Because

43:52

your world must stop it. We

43:56

have said if the

43:58

war continued and

44:01

unrest, your

44:03

world will fight back. When

44:06

the bombs will be dropped of

44:09

recent we said,

44:12

the world will react in

44:15

a place where ice should

44:17

exist. The

44:19

skin of the earth has broken

44:22

and blood has poured up in

44:24

lava. If

44:26

the bombs continue to drop,

44:29

you will continue to see the

44:31

earth bleed. You

44:34

will see this in Italy,

44:37

you will see this in Japan.

44:40

You will see this around your

44:42

world. If

44:44

the world enters this war, it

44:48

will cause men and women

44:50

to fall to their knees and

44:53

will not be able to hold their

44:56

weapons. They must

44:58

bind together and

45:01

help the earth throw its change.

45:05

Cities have been

45:07

annihilated. Families

45:10

in your world have been displaced,

45:12

if not destroyed. You

45:15

have seen young as

45:18

well as more seasoned people being

45:21

executed, which

45:23

is against the natural law. But

45:26

you have also seen people

45:29

running towards the fires,

45:33

putting themselves between

45:35

the aggressor and those

45:38

who are weak and weary. You

45:41

have seen young mouths shout

45:44

in the streets and say

45:46

we do not support

45:50

you. Have seen education. This

45:53

is the change.

45:56

Your devil box, the

45:58

wireless. The rag only

46:01

shows the negativity

46:04

because that is what it is made

46:06

for, to instill

46:09

fear. But there's

46:12

hope. The hope is

46:14

my thing. It's that

46:16

you are aware of it. Like

46:19

a storm. This will pass

46:23

if I am to speak plainly to

46:25

you, and I mean no

46:28

offense to anyone. It

46:30

is indeed sad

46:34

and an ultimate insult

46:37

to the creator for anyone

46:40

to have their life taken by

46:43

the means of negativity.

46:47

It is equally an insult

46:50

to have a life ended in

46:53

negativity. It

46:55

isn't natural law that you are

46:58

born to your world to be born

47:00

to ours, but it

47:02

is the manner that you arrive

47:06

that is the insult. For

47:09

life to be snuffed out

47:12

in an unnatural way. That

47:16

is the crime. But

47:18

whoever comes to our world,

47:21

they live, They

47:24

exist in happiness

47:27

that the former world is no more.

47:31

So, my friends, be

47:34

sad for those who are

47:36

left behind a mon

47:39

I speak of this. Now that

47:42

was your shield. I

47:44

give you the sword. Now

47:47

you can fight. Fight

47:50

the beasts of negativity. Send

47:54

it love. Send

47:56

love to the aggressor. Send

47:59

love to thee that chooses

48:01

to do the atrocities. Appeas

48:04

to their soul so

48:07

that they have to be awakening moment

48:09

of their actions because

48:11

they are so numb to it.

48:15

Make them feel love. It

48:18

will weaken them. But

48:20

this is why, my friends,

48:23

many of you started

48:25

to be woken by our call for

48:28

We now know that

48:31

this is the

48:33

time for mankind to

48:36

change. If you do

48:38

not change, you will be false

48:40

to change. The vibration

48:43

of the world then is

48:46

different to now. This

48:48

is why many children of your

48:50

world are becoming more sensitive.

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You are becoming more sensitive,

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Your diet is becoming more sensitive.

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You view your life is different.

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The root of all situations

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is money. If

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money is worthless, what you

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have to fight over. Surely,

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if money is removed, you'll go back

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to bartering a

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slice of cheese for a loaf

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of bread. Back

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in olden days, we

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battered, there was

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community. I

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will shake your pillow

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if you were to mend my sock.

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I have cooked the ghost and

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it's too much for my plate.

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Here take it. And

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then they bring you roses.

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Someone comes feeling sad

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and you give them a rose and make

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them smile, and

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they walk out of your residence

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lighter, and they

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sing in the street. And

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the person that passes by

50:12

selling the matches, here's

50:15

the sweet sound that

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lifts, says spirit. And

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one comes to buy a match

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and doesn't have the means, and

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from that happiness they

50:29

give them the match affects

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everyone.

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So from this moment, your

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thoughts that have gathered pace

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has caused a bomb within

50:44

your world. You

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may think, my friend, we

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must ask of the spirit for help.

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We're already there. You're

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coming to join us. It

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would be very cruel of us to stay and

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waiting for you to say, because

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that is not in our nature. Then

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that is why, not

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too long ago that

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these occasions we

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had asked, if

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we are to occupy you, let

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us occupy you for a reason,

51:24

and that is to give he diden to

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sell and for each

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other you have

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created a light on

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the most darkest of moments.

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My friend, go let your light shine.

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We know if we add fuel to a fire,

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it makes a bigger fire.

51:44

Send it love.

51:46

Mother Teresa had a quote, Let

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no one ever come to you without leaving

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better and happier. Be the

51:53

living expression of kindness.

51:55

Kindness in your face, kindness

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in your eyes, and kindness

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and your smile. We can make a

52:02

difference in our lives and

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that'll have a ripple effect with others.

52:07

Don't buy into the negativity in your

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brain. The reality is the

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afterlife is real. You'll see

52:14

your loved ones again. Life

52:16

is a grand illusion, but your

52:18

life matters. I hope you have enjoyed

52:20

our time together. Please remember

52:23

to come visit me every Sunday

52:25

two o'clock New York time for our

52:27

free Sunday gathering with medium

52:30

demonstration included. I'm

52:32

with Scott on all of the Monday

52:34

classes, Friday demonstrations,

52:37

and so much more. Please remember

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you are more powerful than you know. You

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are a divine soul, you are

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one of a kind, and you are

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dearly loved. I'm

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Sandra Champlain. Thank you so

52:52

much for listening to Shades

52:54

of the Afterlife. On the iHeartRadio

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53:07

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