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Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For

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over twenty five years, I've been

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on a journey to prove the existence

0:58

of life after death. On each

1:00

episode, we'll discuss the reasons

1:02

we now know that our loved

1:04

ones have survived physical debt, and

1:07

so will we.

1:09

Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.

1:12

I started my first podcast, We

1:14

Don't Die Radio, almost fourteen

1:17

years ago, and since then I've

1:19

interviewed well over four hundred

1:21

people about their belief in the afterlife.

1:24

I had doctor Michael Newton, author

1:26

of the best selling book Journey of Souls,

1:29

on my list to interview, but

1:31

he took his transition to the

1:34

spirit world before I could talk

1:36

with him, and he passed September

1:38

twenty second, twenty sixteen.

1:41

I've been lucky enough to find an old audio

1:43

of him describing his book

1:45

and his work, and with the help

1:47

of some clever editing on my

1:50

part, this episode may just sound

1:52

like an interview. Doctor Michael Newton

1:55

held a doctorate in counseling psychology,

1:58

was a certified Master hypnoi therapist

2:01

and a member of the American Counseling

2:03

Association. Over many years,

2:05

doctor Newton developed his own

2:08

intensive age regression

2:10

technique in order to effectively

2:13

take hypnosis subjects beyond

2:16

their past life memories to

2:18

a more meaningful soul experience

2:21

between lives. He is considered

2:23

to be the pioneer

2:26

in uncovering the mysteries about

2:28

life after death through the

2:30

use of hypnotic regression. He

2:33

has trained many hypnotherapists

2:35

in his techniques, and you can even

2:37

get your own regression today.

2:40

Doctor Newton is the author of three

2:42

best selling books Journey

2:44

of Souls, Destiny of Souls,

2:47

and Life Between Lives

2:50

Hypnotherapy for spiritual

2:52

Regression. His first book,

2:54

Journey of Souls, is the record

2:56

of twenty nine people who recalled

2:59

their experienceperiences between

3:01

physical deaths. Now

3:03

over seven hundred thousand

3:06

copies of the book have been sold

3:08

in English alone, as well as

3:10

being translated into many

3:12

languages. It's been on the bestseller

3:14

list for over twenty five

3:17

years. You can find out more and

3:19

even find a life between

3:21

life facilitator around

3:24

the world at Newtoninstitute

3:27

dot org. And one reminder

3:29

for you, dear listener. You and I

3:31

may not agree with all the views and

3:33

opinions of this guest or

3:36

any other guests that I have on, but

3:38

I do believe there are powerful things

3:41

in each and every episode, things

3:43

that we can learn, things that we

3:45

can use for our life. So

3:47

I kindly ask if there are things mentioned

3:50

in this episode that empower

3:52

you to live a good life, now take

3:54

them. Also, if there are

3:56

things said that aren't a match for your belief

3:58

system, don't take them. It's

4:01

as simple as that. Now,

4:03

let's hear some words from the late doctor

4:06

Michael Newton about his journey

4:08

into researching life between

4:11

lives.

4:12

Well, I'm a traditional therapist. Initially,

4:15

I worked not in past

4:17

life regression or in any

4:19

of the things that I do today. Primarily

4:22

I was working in behavior modification

4:25

and working with people who had

4:28

problems with sleeping and with

4:30

depression, this sort of thing. In

4:32

time, people would come to me and ask,

4:35

well, since you are working in hypnosis,

4:38

is it possible that you could take me into a past

4:40

life? And I was very imperious

4:42

in those days. I said, no, I

4:44

don't do those kinds of things. I'm terribly

4:47

sorry, but I'm very traditional in my academic

4:49

orientation, and you would have to go to somebody

4:52

else for that kind of thing. So what happened

4:54

to me was that after a number of years

4:56

passed, I had a client who came complaining

4:58

of a pain in his side. He

5:00

told me that he'd been to many medical

5:03

doctors, had X rays and

5:05

was told that it was all psychosomitic, it was

5:07

in his mind and that if he just forgot

5:09

about it would go away. But it was causing

5:11

him intense pain, he wasn't sleeping well, and

5:14

so forth, he asked me if

5:16

I could possibly find any root causes

5:18

for this in his childhood, if I could regress

5:21

him to his childhood. So I did

5:23

this, and we searched, and I looked through

5:25

many of the early aspects of his childhood,

5:27

and I could find him not falling on

5:30

a sharp object or being involved

5:32

with knives in any way or anything it would cause

5:34

this very sharp pain in his side. Finally,

5:37

in frustration, I said to this individual,

5:40

who by the way, went very deep,

5:42

very quickly in hypnosis, which is an important

5:44

part of what I'm saying, because that, to

5:46

me is a key in reaching into

5:48

the past life work that I now do on

5:51

my inter life work, I

5:53

said, go to the source of your pain. Tell

5:55

me the first time it happened. And

5:58

suddenly he was on the battlefield of

6:00

France in World War One, in a British

6:03

division at the Battle of the Somme, and

6:05

was being bayman added, So

6:07

while the poor fellow had suddenly regressed

6:09

into a past life, almost getting ahead of

6:12

me, and he's lying in the mud dying, I'm

6:14

so skeptical because that's my nature,

6:16

that I'm asking him to describe his division

6:19

patch for me on his arm. What battle

6:21

is this? I asked? Where are we? Who

6:23

are you fighting? Because I'm not satisfied

6:26

that this is really happening to me. So

6:29

he described all these things very

6:31

accurately, and since I am an amateur

6:33

historian, I knew he was accurate. And

6:36

so I realized that I'd had my first

6:38

past life case. And I

6:40

worked in desensitizing him, just as I

6:42

would have done if he'd have been a six year old child

6:45

who'd spared himself in the kitchen, for instance,

6:47

while his mother wasn't there. So

6:49

from that case, I realized that

6:52

past life regression was very

6:54

real. I was still somewhat skeptical. I

6:56

did a lot more experimenting, of course, and working

6:58

with people, and a lot more time passed,

7:01

and then what happened to me was

7:03

another case. Almost by accident,

7:06

A lady came to me who complained

7:09

of loneliness and isolation

7:11

in society, and she felt that she was

7:14

not really a part of this world. That

7:17

she just felt so disoriented

7:20

with the life that she was living

7:22

and the people that were around her. She was

7:24

thinking of suicide. And

7:26

so again I worked with this lady

7:28

as I had done with this man, but not in past

7:31

life work. We talked about a lot of childhood

7:33

issues. I put her in hypnosis. We worked a lot

7:35

with her early life and so forth, and really

7:38

didn't come up with anything. So, like

7:40

with the man I just spoke about, I asked

7:43

this lady, go to the source

7:45

of your loneliness and lack of companionship.

7:48

And again she was very somnambalistic.

7:51

She went very deep, very quickly. She

7:53

was a very good hypnosis subject.

7:56

And she said,

7:58

I see them all right now,

8:01

my companions. They're here in front

8:03

of me. And I

8:05

thought, what are we talking about? Here? Are is

8:07

this a breach group? Who are these people?

8:10

And she's staring at my office wall with a

8:12

glazed look, and her eyes are fluttering,

8:14

and she's saying to me, no, no, no,

8:17

these are my spiritual soulmates

8:20

and they're eight of them, and she described who

8:22

they are. And I couldn't believe

8:24

this. There were just chills went up and down my

8:26

spine that I had. Actually I

8:29

was talking to someone who was talking about

8:31

a life between lives, and this is an area

8:33

of which I had no experience, and I'd read

8:35

no books on There weren't many books

8:38

even touching on the subject. So

8:40

from that case, I began

8:43

to really research the area between

8:45

lives and I soon as my

8:47

practice. As time went on, my practice

8:50

I changed it to working

8:52

basically with people who wanted to know about their

8:54

immortality. People who now

8:56

come to me who are interested in finding out who

8:58

they really are, who their soulmates

9:01

are, what their spirit group is like, why

9:03

they are here on earth, and so forth. To

9:05

me, these are the profound questions in life,

9:08

and the psychological benefits

9:11

that come from people knowing

9:13

these points, these issues

9:16

in their life empower them

9:18

in a way that they had not had

9:20

before. And so that's essentially how I came

9:23

to work in the area that I do today.

9:26

How is past life therapy viewed

9:29

by the mainstream.

9:30

You've got two types of people, those that understand

9:33

hypnosis and the power of hypnosis and

9:35

realize that it's for real. The

9:37

AMAI might add, has accepted

9:39

hypnosis as a medical tool

9:42

since nineteen fifty eight, which is rather late

9:44

considering how long it's been around. But

9:47

the point I want to make is that people

9:49

do not hallucinate in hypnosis.

9:52

The conscious mind is not unconscious.

9:55

It's very aware of what is going

9:57

on around at all times around

9:59

the subject. It is not as if

10:01

you were in bed asleep at night in a deep

10:03

delta state. You are in what we call an

10:06

alpha or theta state, so your

10:08

conscious mind is able to work and help

10:10

with information that we're deriving from your subconscious

10:14

and so hypnosis really,

10:16

in terms of whether you want to believe in hypnosis

10:18

or not, depends on your willingness to accept

10:21

self reports as data. And essentially,

10:23

it's not like physics where we have

10:25

formulas. In terms of scientific

10:28

proof, one could argue that's not possible.

10:31

All I can tell you is that I

10:34

was a skeptic at first about the whole

10:36

process of past life progression and working

10:38

in the life between lives, and

10:41

what convinced me that it was real

10:43

and that my patients were telling me everything

10:45

that had actually happened to them in the

10:48

past was their consistency of their reports.

10:51

It didn't matter whether someone came

10:53

to me who was deeply religious

10:55

or an atheist, or any philosophical

10:58

persuasion in between. Once

11:00

I had them in deep hypnosis, they

11:03

all told me the same thing about the spirit world

11:05

and about their life between lives.

11:08

What happens when we die.

11:10

At the moment of death, you rise

11:12

above your body and you look back at

11:14

it. Now, there have been a lot of

11:17

near death experience. Reports have been books

11:19

written about near death experiences, and certainly

11:21

people who have gone through this have appeared

11:23

on television and radio and

11:25

have described to the public in many forms

11:28

how they felt and what they experienced.

11:31

But you have to keep in mind that in a

11:33

near death experience, we're talking

11:35

about someone who's clinically dead only for a

11:37

few minutes, so they wouldn't be around to tell what

11:39

they experienced. In my

11:42

case, I have a client in hypnosis

11:44

for some three hours questioning them about

11:46

these things. They're also in a

11:48

relaxed state. They're not undergoing any

11:50

body trauma, so they're able

11:53

to tell me in a very clear and forthright

11:55

way everything that happened to them. Now,

11:58

let me explain that there are two types

12:01

of souls. There are the more advanced type

12:03

and they're the beginner type souls, or really

12:05

a few more types, but I'll just talk about

12:07

these essentially. The beginner

12:09

soul, that is, the person who has not lived

12:11

all that many lives sometimes

12:14

has difficulties separating from their body,

12:16

and not that they're not released at the

12:18

moment of death, but they hang around.

12:21

They want to go to their funerals, and we're

12:23

so vain. You know, these people will describe

12:25

how they want to find out who's coming to

12:27

their funeral, who's bringing flowers,

12:30

how much respect is their body being shown

12:32

being cremated or being put into the ground, or

12:34

what have you. So you have

12:36

that type of soul who's not really

12:39

ready to leave Earth's astrol plane

12:41

immediately because they're a little disoriented,

12:43

and also they're reluctant to leave this life

12:46

in which they've had so much enjoyment.

12:49

We are approaching time for our first

12:51

break, so I think this will be a good opportunity

12:54

to take it. When we get

12:56

back from the break, doctor Newton will explain

12:59

the advance kind of soul

13:01

and what it is to die and

13:03

go to that life between lives.

13:06

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14:10

Welcome back, to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

14:13

Sanders Champlaine and we're having

14:15

a virtual discussion with

14:17

doctor Michael Newton, who

14:19

passed back in twenty sixteen.

14:22

He's the author of the book Journey

14:24

of Souls, and right now he's talking

14:26

about his life between life,

14:29

hypnosis therapy and

14:31

what it is like to die.

14:33

Let me explain that there are two types

14:36

of souls. There are the more advanced type and

14:38

they're the beginner type souls, or really

14:40

a few more types, but I'll just talk about

14:42

these essentially, the beginner

14:44

soul, that is, the person who has not lived

14:46

all that many lives sometimes has

14:49

difficulties separating from their body, and

14:51

not that they're not released at the moment

14:53

of death, but they hang around. They

14:56

want to go to their funerals, and we're so

14:58

vain, you know, these people will describe how

15:01

they want to find out who's coming to their funeral,

15:03

who's bringing flowers, how much

15:05

respect is their body being shown being

15:08

cremated or being put into the ground, or what have

15:10

you. So you have that

15:12

type of soul who's not really

15:14

ready to leave Earth's astral plane

15:16

immediately because they're a little disoriented,

15:18

and also they're reluctant to leave this light

15:21

in which they've had so much enjoyment.

15:24

Then that you have the second major type,

15:26

which are those souls who've been around

15:28

a long time and they're very experienced. They

15:30

usually leave very quickly, and

15:32

so both types

15:35

when they look back at their bodies, I want to

15:37

tell you that there is something that's uppermost

15:39

on their mind, and that is to comfort the loved ones

15:41

that are left behind. All

15:44

souls will try to reach out

15:46

and comfort those who are mourning

15:48

their deaths. They will try to reach into

15:50

their minds and soothe them in

15:52

various ways and give

15:55

them, through thought, powerful

15:58

thought messages, the

16:00

understanding that they're still alive. Sometimes

16:02

it's hard, because, of course, when

16:04

we're undergoing this kind of grief, you

16:07

can imagine that we're so overcome with

16:09

grief that we might shut down in terms

16:11

of these messages. So these souls might not be

16:13

able to reach their loved ones for

16:16

perhaps days or weeks or months

16:18

later, But that is the intent

16:20

to make them feel comfortable. Then

16:23

as they pull away, souls

16:25

describe bright lights and tunnels

16:28

the same as the folks

16:30

that tell us who have had near death experiences

16:32

that they have seen now

16:35

let me explain something I think is really important.

16:38

We've heard a lot about people seeing

16:40

religious figures who have undergone

16:43

near death experience. I find no

16:45

case in all of the cases that I've had

16:47

over all of the years that I've been working with people

16:50

through their death experiences, who have ever

16:52

seen a religious figure. What

16:54

they see are their spiritual guides.

16:57

These are those loving beings who

16:59

are their teachers who come to

17:01

them at the moment of death to guide

17:03

them into the spirit world. Now,

17:06

I'd like to also say that you

17:09

may also see people who of you have known

17:11

in this life, who have passed on ahead of you,

17:14

who will also come and welcome

17:16

you back. And this too is a very

17:18

wonderful experience. For instance, people

17:20

will see their mothers, for example, or a best

17:22

friend who may have died in front of them,

17:25

or a brother or sister, this sort of thing, and

17:27

it's a very ennobling and beautiful

17:29

experience for them.

17:32

What is it like when we see our loved

17:34

ones?

17:35

When a person who has just

17:37

died sees their spirit

17:39

guide or friends and relatives

17:42

who they have known before soulmates,

17:44

they usually see a projection

17:47

of a face that is familiar

17:49

to them. They may take the

17:51

face of people that they

17:54

have been in the life that is familiar to

17:56

the person who has just died, or

17:58

a face that they put particularly like that

18:01

that person who has just died knows

18:03

how to identify them from. And so

18:06

you have a number of different faces.

18:08

People will describe them as

18:10

looking like ghosts as they come towards

18:13

us, and maybe this is where some of our mythology

18:15

about ghosts comes from. Oftentimes

18:18

they don't see anything below the waist. Essentially,

18:21

they see a light form coming misty,

18:23

if you will, a pinpoint of light

18:25

in the beginning, and then a misty shape, a ghost

18:28

like shape, and then when they get close

18:30

they can make out features

18:33

that are projected to them by

18:35

the being that is coming towards them for

18:37

recognition.

18:38

Doctor Newton, is there a hell?

18:41

No one that I have ever put in hypnosis

18:44

has ever seen any demonic figures

18:46

or a hell of any kind. We

18:48

have heard this from some people who

18:51

have had near death experiences, not many,

18:53

a few. My feeling of

18:55

that is that those folks who claim

18:57

that they could hear screaming deomans

19:00

dragging them before a tribunal

19:02

of some kind for a judgment, and so

19:04

forth, and all these things that are

19:07

very religious in overtones in terms

19:10

of fostering fear, are simply

19:12

not in the minds of my clients. When

19:14

someone with a near death experience says

19:17

that they thought that's what they experience,

19:19

my feeling is that their

19:21

conscious mind is coming into this in

19:23

terms of preconditioning. Because remember, these

19:25

people are not in hypnosis. They've just

19:28

been hit by a car, or they're on an

19:30

operating table bleeding to death. There's

19:32

all sorts of things going on in their physical

19:34

bodies in the case of trauma, and

19:37

so what has happened here, in my

19:39

view, is that their conscious mind is on overload,

19:42

and all of those fears and anxieties

19:44

that they have had in their walking around

19:46

state about life after death is coming

19:48

back to haunt them. They are not describing

19:51

what really exists in terms

19:53

of being taken in front of demons

19:56

and being punished and so forth. Their bright

19:58

lights and tunnels are real. When they

20:00

start getting into a lot of the things

20:02

that concern them in terms of their conscious

20:05

fears, I suspect preconditioning.

20:08

My clients tell me that the spirit

20:10

world is a place of love, forgiveness,

20:12

and kindness that regardless

20:15

of what they have done on earth in terms

20:17

of wrongdoing. If we could use evil

20:19

and wrongdoing here as perhaps the

20:21

reasons why someone might be sent into

20:23

an area that maybe looks like hell,

20:26

this just doesn't happen. According to my

20:28

clients. They are taken, in fact,

20:31

to an area of isolation where they

20:33

are given orientation sessions

20:36

in terms of what it is that they did and why

20:38

they did it. There's some energy reshaping

20:41

going on. I explain in the book

20:43

Journey of Souls about this process.

20:46

And I just would like to say that these

20:48

people generally who have committed

20:50

evil will probably of

20:53

their own volition, come back as victims.

20:55

In their next lives. They will volunteer for those

20:57

assignments. So no,

20:59

the spirit world is not a place of terror

21:01

and fear.

21:03

A tribunal is a group of people

21:05

appointed by a court to judge

21:07

someone on a matter. Is there a

21:10

tribunal or judgment in the afterlife?

21:13

Let me describe to you where

21:15

I think some people get an idea of a tribunal,

21:18

and this might be filtering down through

21:21

their subconscious mind. We

21:23

do go before our council

21:26

of what I call elders, wise beings.

21:28

They've been called the old ones, the sacred

21:30

ones. There's lots of different names. These

21:33

are very advanced beings who

21:35

review the life just live. Our

21:38

guides do this. Our guides

21:40

do this when we first cross over. They

21:43

talk to us in the privacy of a very

21:45

quiet setting, and so we

21:47

can unwind and get re energized,

21:50

and then we usually go into

21:52

our home, if you will, our place in the spirit

21:54

world where we belong. But what I'd

21:56

like to tell you now is the tribunals

21:59

concept. I hear a lot about people

22:01

worried that they might be hauled in

22:03

front of demonic judges and made

22:05

to account for all their sins. These

22:08

wise beings our more

22:10

advanced teachers. They rank, if you

22:12

will, even above our guides in terms

22:15

of knowledge, understanding, and experience.

22:17

What generally I find happens is

22:19

that our guides accompany us to a very

22:22

quiet, serene area where

22:24

these beings will talk to us. Now, I'd

22:27

like to point out that I have

22:29

had clients who have had only three of

22:31

these elders in front of them, and some

22:33

as many as ten or twelve. Really depends

22:36

on the individual, what spirit group they're

22:38

located in terms of how advanced

22:40

they are and so forth. These

22:42

beings will question them in a

22:45

very gentle way about

22:47

how you, as the person

22:49

who has just died, conducted your last life

22:52

and how you feel about how

22:54

well you did or where you had

22:56

failings and where there were shortcomings, and

22:58

they would also like to talk to you about your successes.

23:02

So it's a very gentle process and it's

23:04

one that everyone experiences between

23:06

lives after every life, and sometimes

23:08

people will go before them again before

23:10

their next life in order to review the life

23:13

to come. But essentially what

23:15

they are are very wise,

23:18

understanding beings who will really review

23:20

with us where we made our mistakes and how

23:22

we can do better in our next life.

23:24

Are there really young and old souls?

23:28

This idea of very old souls and very

23:30

young souls can be confusing, And

23:33

let me explain why. You might be an

23:35

old soul in the sense that you've been around since

23:37

the Stone Age, but you might not have learned

23:39

your lessons very well or very quickly, so

23:42

you might be maybe going from a beginner

23:44

to an intermediate as opposed to a more advanced

23:47

soul, simply because you need

23:49

more time and more lives to do the work

23:51

that you need to do. I've had

23:53

other people who have had souls that have progressed

23:56

very rapidly. I had one lady

23:58

who, in four thousand years of

24:00

incarnations on Earth, which is not a long

24:02

time, move from the beginner level

24:04

up to almost intermediate, which is very very

24:06

fast. The reason that I can tell

24:09

this is by the auras they project

24:11

in the spirit world, and these usually these

24:13

colors have really no relation to the auras

24:16

that people who have that ability on

24:18

Earth can see around us, and

24:20

from the colors of their energy,

24:22

I can determine the advancement of the soul.

24:25

This took a long long time to

24:28

discover this and all the other things that

24:30

we're talking about today. I

24:32

had to piece together this puzzle. It did

24:34

not all come to me in a rush. For that lady

24:36

I spoke about earlier, who is my first

24:39

case in life between lives,

24:41

I had to work very hard because

24:44

people don't volunteer information. In

24:47

order to get the information that

24:49

I have written about, it took many, many years.

24:51

I just like to say too that

24:54

I tried to keep my work unbiased.

24:57

And when I talked to you about people

24:59

like guy and the counsel and so forth,

25:02

I ask people, what do you see?

25:04

Not do you see? So and so

25:06

so that regardless of how many cases

25:09

have gone before the client I'm working with now

25:12

the material seems fresh to them. I

25:14

ask open ended questions so

25:16

that they will come to me with the answers

25:19

that they're going to frame in their own minds. And

25:21

one of them is, as I said, that's a very important

25:24

one. Is what we've just talked about, is their counsel,

25:26

because they really do want to talk to

25:28

me about these beings and what they

25:30

mean to them.

25:31

What is the ultimate goal of our souls?

25:34

And is there a God.

25:36

I came into this as an atheist. I did

25:38

not believe in God. I did

25:40

not believe that there was anything after

25:42

life but ultimately oblivion. My

25:44

clients kind of brought me to this kicking

25:47

and screaming. After years of work

25:49

with them and the consistency of

25:51

the reports and knowing what I do

25:53

about hypnosis and doing the work

25:55

and research myself today where I

25:57

can say that I believe in a power greater

25:59

than myself, a source for all

26:01

life and all intelligence. So the

26:04

concept of all this incarnation

26:07

is to arrive at that state of perfection

26:10

where we can rejoin

26:12

that source from once we came.

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27:34

I'm Sandra Champlain and we're listening

27:37

to words from the late doctor Michael

27:39

Newton, who really was cutting

27:42

edge in this life between

27:45

Lives therapy. I

27:47

didn't want to step over this, but at the end

27:49

of the last segment he makes

27:51

a statement, I can say that

27:53

I believe in a power greater than

27:55

myself and a source for

27:58

all life and all in intelligence.

28:01

So the concept of this incarnation

28:04

is to arrive at that state of perfection

28:07

where we can rejoin that source

28:10

from once we came. Personally,

28:12

I take that as creating

28:15

heaven on earth, not so much

28:17

outside of ourselves, but how we

28:19

can live our lives powerfully

28:22

now looking at the big picture, looking

28:24

at others that their souls, having

28:27

a human experience, looking

28:29

at things through the eyes of love and

28:31

grace, being forgiving, and

28:34

perhaps knowing that we are divine

28:36

beings, co creating with the

28:39

God source. Next, let's

28:41

hear some words from him

28:43

about ghosts. Also.

28:46

He doesn't go into this fully

28:48

in this episode, but doctor Newton

28:51

believes that a part

28:53

of us remains in the spirit

28:55

world and part of us comes

28:57

to earth and keeps reincarnate.

29:00

In this I find very comforting because,

29:04

as you know, we all want

29:06

to meet up with our loved ones again when

29:08

we pass. So doctor Newton

29:10

feels we remain in the

29:12

spirit world or in the afterlife, and

29:15

part of us comes back to Earth

29:17

and reincarnates.

29:19

People can get misconceptions

29:21

from ghosts, and it's my feeling

29:24

that there are beings who

29:26

have not left the astroplane yet because

29:28

they're not ready to. They're very dissatisfied

29:30

with things. Maybe they were murdered, they

29:33

want to find vengeance, and so forth. They're not

29:35

forced into the spirit world. Usually

29:37

they're taken by the hand when they're ready and

29:39

taken into the spirit world. I might

29:41

also say that there's another element of this

29:44

that's unique to my own work. In terms of ghosts,

29:47

I believe in the duality of soul. Souls

29:49

have the ability to live parallel lives, to

29:51

divide their energy. A part of their energy always

29:53

stays behind in the spirit world. So

29:56

you could have a ghost with an energy particle

29:58

who is still on Earth, have the same holographic

30:02

image, if you will, of that soul's ego

30:04

in the spirit world at the same time. So

30:07

we never stop learning and we never

30:10

actually are totally disconnected from the spirit

30:12

world.

30:13

What are soul groups?

30:15

Soul groups are one of the most interesting aspects

30:18

of my work. The reason for

30:21

this is that people

30:23

who I take into their soul group are

30:25

able to tell me their level of

30:28

advancement based on

30:30

how the others are doing in their group as

30:32

well as themselves. This gives

30:34

me a much broader perspective as

30:37

to where this individual is in terms

30:39

of development. There are

30:41

in every soul group a variety of personalities.

30:44

You have courageous souls, you have meek

30:46

souls, you have passive souls. You have

30:49

souls who are very unselfish,

30:51

those that are a bit more self centered.

30:54

You have souls that are quiet and contemplative,

30:56

and those that are jokesters. So from

30:59

the information, I'm able to determine

31:02

psychologically a lot

31:04

about the type of group that my client

31:06

comes from and what I might be able to do to help

31:09

them in terms of their life lessons and

31:11

purpose. But it's fascinating

31:13

too from another standpoint, because we don't

31:15

all progress in the same at

31:18

the same speed, in the same way, in the same

31:20

areas. I like to point out

31:22

that I had one man that took him between

31:24

four and five thousand years to conquer jealousy.

31:27

He is not a jealous person in this life.

31:30

He's intolerant as hell, and that's what he's

31:32

working on now. But he's not jealous,

31:34

and so that was his particular difficult

31:37

hurdle to get over, and yet there are people

31:40

in his soul group that were always very

31:42

tolerant and they have tried to help him between

31:44

lives. So this is what I mean

31:46

about rates of progression.

31:49

And yet I find that the whole

31:52

soul group pretty generally belongs in a

31:54

certain niche as far as development, and they're all

31:56

going to move forward together, some a little faster

31:58

than others, others will be a little lower, but

32:01

essentially they're all at about

32:03

the same level.

32:04

Is the purpose of life all about learning?

32:08

Essentially? In the beginning of

32:10

our many, many existences,

32:12

It's about learning lessons, It's about

32:14

improving understanding where

32:17

we are in terms of our development

32:19

and where we need to go. And

32:21

the reason that that's such an important question

32:24

is that many, many

32:26

people that I work with incarnate on other

32:28

worlds and are in other dimensions besides Earth.

32:31

Earth has a particular difficulty in

32:33

that we have amnesia. Our

32:36

human minds set up an amnesia

32:38

block when we come into this world, so

32:40

that we in fact don't

32:42

have any knowledge that we can recall

32:44

readily about the spirit world or our spirit

32:47

guides. Interestingly enough, it's

32:49

not so true with young young children.

32:51

You see a little boy or girl playing in a sandbox

32:53

one years old, two years old, and

32:56

they're having these imaginary playmates,

32:58

which may not be so imaginative. But

33:01

by the time they're in the first grade in school,

33:03

we've pretty much knocked all that out of them,

33:05

and so that amnesia block is pretty

33:07

much set, and so they don't remember themselves

33:10

as spirits, and they don't remember their

33:12

friends in the spirit world as spirits.

33:15

But what's interesting is that it

33:18

is a planet. Earth is of self

33:20

discovery. The idea is that

33:22

by not knowing the answers to the test questions

33:24

before you come in, you solve these

33:26

problems yourself, in your own way and your

33:28

own time, and in your own environment and in

33:31

your own body. Not

33:33

to say that we don't have genetic

33:35

problems, there are those who select bodies

33:38

who do have problems with aggressive

33:40

behavior. Maybe they have a chemical

33:43

imbalance that causes other behavioral

33:45

problems that they need to overcome

33:48

in order to achieve

33:50

the lessons for which they came through to

33:52

accomplish on Earth. And I'd like to

33:54

point out that it's by design everyone

33:58

in everybody has select to

34:00

that body they knew in advance what the body

34:02

was going to be like to a certain extent, and

34:04

they chose that body with the help of their guides

34:07

in order to achieve certain lessons. But

34:10

these same folks can also incarnate

34:12

on other planets where there is no amnesia.

34:15

There are all different ways in which we

34:17

can progress and learn and understand

34:20

about who we really are and the power

34:23

of our energy. Earth is only

34:25

one school.

34:26

Can the spirit world be fun?

34:29

This is one of the most jovial

34:31

parts, if I could call it that, of my work. Some

34:34

people think that I spend a little too much time

34:36

with us and make too light of it. I believe that it's

34:38

important that everybody know that the spirit world

34:40

is a place of humor and fun. It

34:43

is not all business. It

34:45

is not all the kinds of things I describe in

34:47

some of my chapters about energy work,

34:49

creation work, learning to cope

34:52

with our lessons in classroom type situations.

34:54

There's a lot of that. But we also have

34:56

R and R restaurant recreation, and

34:59

I've had many clients tell me about

35:01

playing games. Some of the games

35:03

I hear are like red Rover, where

35:06

sides will line up opposite each other

35:08

and come crashing together as balls

35:11

of energy in order to unite

35:13

and blend their intelligent energy,

35:16

and it's kind of like playing bumper cars. Others

35:18

will talk about a dodgeball game

35:21

where they will throw bolts of energy

35:23

at each other, or playing tag these

35:25

kinds of things. And there's a lot more

35:27

esoteric type games where they can go to other

35:30

worlds where there is no human life, for example,

35:32

and frolic if you will on that world

35:35

as spirits who are not there turn

35:37

to learn lessons, but to simply have fun with

35:40

each other, and they play. So

35:42

once in a while, when I give a speech about

35:45

the fact that there is a lot of humor and play

35:47

in the spirit world people, some people

35:50

get a little upset because they think it all should

35:52

be very, very serious, and

35:54

I find that that's just not true.

35:56

Could you talk about our dreams?

35:59

When we dream? Generally, my

36:01

way of describing dreams is in three categories.

36:04

We can cleanse our minds at the end of every

36:06

day. It's kind of a cleaning house where we vent

36:08

a lot of the things that have gone on, and a lot of

36:10

it is like everything short circuited up

36:12

there. We've all had dreams which seem like just

36:14

utter nonsense. If we wake up in the morning

36:17

and wonder what they were all about, or

36:19

if we wake up in the middle of the night and they've just happened

36:21

and we don't make any

36:23

sense of them. We also have those

36:26

dreams, which are problem solving dreams. We

36:28

go to bed with a specific problem, and somehow

36:30

in the morning we wake up and our answer

36:32

is beginning to formulate. So that's

36:35

a very cortextual type of dream where we're

36:38

really analyzing a problem and it's

36:40

our sleep state is helping us resolve

36:42

that. Then we have what I call spiritual

36:45

dreams, the dreams in terms of flying

36:47

dreams or water dreams, where in fact

36:49

we are creatures that we don't understand in a

36:51

conscious state, but we're reliving earlier

36:53

experiences. I might also

36:56

mention that the problem solving and the

36:58

spiritual dreams can overlap. Up we

37:00

may receive help from a guide in the middle

37:03

of the night to some major problem

37:06

that we just can't seem to solve during the day,

37:08

and our minds are not open to

37:10

receiving information from our guides. Maybe

37:12

we're not people who meditate, so

37:14

the only way they really have of reaching us

37:17

is when we're in a subconscious state

37:19

at night, and so dreams can take

37:22

many different forms.

37:23

Are there different levels of souls?

37:26

I find the different levels of souls are

37:29

generally on three different levels, although I

37:31

can keep this simple and just say beginner

37:33

in advance. In my book,

37:35

I describe them as beginner, intermediate,

37:37

and advance, and there are a couple of grades in between

37:40

that, but that is a general category. I

37:42

think that the thing that differentiates the

37:44

beginner from the intermediate is essentially

37:47

by the time you reach intermediate level, you're beginning

37:49

your teacher training. You're given more responsibility.

37:52

You've had a lot of lives that have been very

37:54

difficult, and you've been very successful in

37:56

your life in handling them. One

37:58

of the primary things that our guides

38:00

and teachers look at is how

38:03

we have treated others in our life. What

38:06

have we done for others as

38:08

opposed to ourselves. And

38:10

if we find people who are really quite

38:13

unselfish in giving people, we

38:15

know that probably they're moving into the intermediate

38:17

level. And from the intermediate

38:20

level to the advanced level. Is the difference

38:22

between a soul being at the beginning

38:24

stage of teaching to one that is a more advanced

38:27

teacher and those souls that are

38:29

more advanced are into work that is

38:31

very, very demanding. Many of them will

38:33

have a number of people with

38:35

whom they are teaching, who are on Earth and on

38:37

other planets. And it is also their

38:39

responsibility in the spirit world too,

38:43

if you will run spirit groups as

38:45

teachers and to conduct

38:47

lessons and to work with individual

38:49

souls on their own problems. So

38:52

there's quite a difference between a beginner and an

38:54

advanced soul.

38:55

Well, I can tell you right now that

38:58

you are not a beginner soul,

39:01

and neither am I. We are people

39:03

looking for the bigger picture, aren't

39:05

we. So where are we on the scale?

39:08

I don't know.

39:09

I say we are old souls.

39:11

When we get back from the break, more concepts

39:14

we're going to hear from doctor

39:16

Newton. He'll talk about future

39:18

lives, the concept of time,

39:21

the death experience and the process

39:23

of reincarnating, and soulmates.

39:27

Let's take our break and we'll be back.

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Sandra Champlain and you're listening

40:55

to words from the late doctor

40:58

Michael Newton, author of

41:00

several books, including his groundbreaking

41:04

Journey of Souls. If

41:06

you wish to get your own life

41:09

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41:11

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41:16

list of global practitioners.

41:19

We're going to continue on with his words,

41:22

what it's like to die.

41:24

My clients describe death as

41:27

something it is very, very beautiful for them.

41:29

The trauma that has just gone

41:32

before is pretty much wiped

41:34

out. At the moment of death, they rise

41:36

out of their bodies. They realize that

41:38

they're an immortal being. Oh

41:40

my god, I'm not dead is a

41:43

statement I hear quite often. And

41:45

they look back at their bodies, and of course all

41:48

of their memories, of all of who they are

41:50

as souls, and all their past lives come

41:52

crashing in and they realize that this

41:54

life they have just lived is transitory.

41:57

Not that they can't feel sadness for

41:59

the husband and wife who is at their bedside,

42:01

for example, or a child, But

42:04

souls don't feel sadness the same way human

42:06

beings do. Because they're immortal beings.

42:09

They understand that they will soon be joined

42:11

by these folks they've left behind. And

42:14

I can tell you this that most people

42:17

feel two things. They

42:19

feel freedom, and they feel joy

42:21

at the moment of death.

42:23

Freedom and joy at the time of death.

42:25

That works for me. Next, he'll talk

42:27

about future lives and the concept

42:30

of time.

42:31

Future lives is an

42:33

area that I do get into

42:36

occasionally. Some of my colleagues

42:39

enjoy working a lot with progression

42:41

there is that's the difference. It's progression instead

42:43

of regression. And I've heard

42:45

some interesting I mean, I've had people who have been

42:47

on starships because they're seeing

42:49

into the future. A lot of times,

42:52

though I don't like working in

42:54

the future, even when a client

42:56

is able to talk to me a little about it, because

42:58

of the fact that I think from a

43:00

karmic lesson standpoint, it's

43:03

better that they not know what's coming up.

43:05

I feel again, a lot of

43:08

importance really comes

43:10

by our discovering and problem

43:13

solving when the issue is right in front of us.

43:15

So I'm a little hesitant to spend

43:17

too much time with that, although I've had many clients

43:19

who've talked to me, for instance, about the twenty first twenty

43:21

second century, how overcrowded

43:23

the next century is going to be on Earth, and how there's going

43:26

to be a lot of air pollution, and how it's not going

43:28

to be real easy living around here.

43:30

In fact, it's made my wife and I

43:32

come to the conclusion I think we'll wait a century before

43:35

we reincarnate together again. But

43:37

I must tell you too, that the fact

43:40

of time often comes into this. People

43:44

who ask me questions about

43:46

whether it's possible to see into the future

43:49

are suddenly confronted by this

43:52

business of time, the past, president

43:54

future all being capitalized into

43:56

one action, and this is confusing for them.

43:58

It doesn't bother them so much. We talk about past

44:01

lives and our current life, but

44:03

when we get into the future, they begin to see

44:05

that in fact, all time is.

44:08

There's not an absolute to time. It's not a chronology

44:10

like it is on earth. But in fact, when

44:13

we are in the spirit world, we're able to see

44:16

into the future as well as the past. If

44:18

we were not able to do this, we

44:20

would not be able to select our bodies and

44:22

to know a little bit about what's going to happen to

44:24

us, so that we, in fact can make

44:26

the determination that this body is going to be

44:28

right for us. So, as

44:30

of necessity, people have to come to this

44:32

philosophic concept that

44:35

in fact, past, present, and future

44:37

is all relative. There's been a lot of work

44:39

done in recent years by people

44:41

who are very scientifically oriented on this. A

44:44

whole new field of quantum mechanics, where

44:46

they believe that everything is electromagnetic

44:49

light energy, and that time

44:51

is essential emotion and not chronology

44:54

has come into play where people have had I think

44:56

a greater understanding is quite possible

44:58

that there is no real relevance to past

45:00

president in future. As far as chronology

45:02

on Earth, it's difficult for us

45:05

to accept this because we see the sun

45:07

come up in the morning, go down at night. There's night

45:09

and day, we age, we see

45:11

everything changing around us. So for

45:13

us it's chronology. Time is very

45:16

important as an absolute, but it's

45:18

not true in the spirit world.

45:20

What are soulmates?

45:22

Dolemates can be confusing

45:24

to people, of course, in

45:27

the spirit world. I find, and I think I've

45:29

explained this, that in a soul group, we

45:31

have many soulmates. Our soul

45:33

groups may be made up of four or five different

45:35

people, or twenty five or thirty, depending

45:37

on how quickly we're moving through into

45:40

the more advanced stages. It

45:42

could be argued that if

45:45

your husband or wife is your soulmate,

45:47

but it could also be argued that your best friend in high

45:50

school is your soulmate, or your business partner

45:52

or whatever, and it may well be

45:54

true that they are all soulmates and all

45:56

come from your spirit group. For

45:58

me, the most intensemate relationship

46:01

is that being with whom we like

46:03

to reincarnate in terms of

46:05

a spouse, someone with whom we've been mate in

46:07

many many lives, and we often

46:10

have changed genders. We've been in the

46:12

male in one life, and then a female and another.

46:15

This is another measure of the advancement

46:17

of the soul, because I find

46:20

too that if souls incarnate mostly

46:22

as males or mostly as females, they

46:24

haven't yet reached that intermediate level where

46:26

they can interchange with ease. Soulmates

46:29

are a very very important aspect of our

46:31

lives, and sometimes we learn our greatest

46:33

lessons with our soulmates.

46:35

Here's a quote by doctor Newton from

46:37

his book Journey of Souls. When

46:40

you look into a certain person's eyes

46:42

on the ground, even people

46:44

you have just met, and see a light

46:47

you have known before, well

46:49

that tells you something about them as

46:52

a human. You don't know why, but your

46:54

soul remembers. I can guess

46:57

you've felt that too. You meet

46:59

someone and you feel so at home

47:01

with them, Could it be a soulmate? Next,

47:04

Doctor Newton talks about what

47:06

it's like to come back to Earth.

47:09

When they decide, and their guides are

47:11

also involved in this decision, that it's time

47:13

to come forward and be reincarnated again.

47:15

They go to a place where they can

47:17

study the bodies that

47:20

they're going to be given as choices. Now,

47:23

I find this varies between

47:25

clients. Some clients are given two or three choices,

47:27

other clients are given basically one choice.

47:30

But I have almost never found a

47:33

client who has said, I don't like that choice.

47:36

Their guides and masters know too much

47:38

about them, too much about what

47:40

needs to be done to make mistakes in this

47:42

area. So I find most people

47:45

are very joyful when they see the bodies

47:47

that they're going to inhabit in their next life. They

47:50

look almost as if they go into a television

47:52

studio or a movie theater and

47:55

see in stop action certain

47:58

aspects of the life to come to

48:00

see whether their soul will fit into

48:02

the personality of the body that they're going to inhabit,

48:06

and see how that will work in

48:08

terms of their coming forward. Now,

48:10

i'd like to say that

48:13

it's an extremely important part

48:15

of my work to understand how

48:18

the soul mind of my client is

48:20

interfacing with their

48:22

earthly mind in the ego of the body

48:24

of the brain in which they're now incarnating

48:27

as a person in this particular life.

48:30

Because, as I mentioned before, we

48:33

have different soul egos that combine

48:35

with different bodies, and

48:38

it's true that in the womb when

48:41

we're analyzing what this mind is like

48:43

and how we might combine with it, there

48:45

is a duality. Once we are born,

48:48

that fusion has taken place. It

48:50

is not as if the soul is an alien

48:52

form. That baby recognizes

48:55

this intelligent life and welcomes it.

48:58

After all, if we were to take the soul

49:01

out of say a human body,

49:03

we would probably have raw emotions. There

49:05

would be a survival instinct, we'd have aggression,

49:08

we'd have passivity, all those things

49:10

which are influential to a soul.

49:13

But emotions are very peculiar

49:15

to a body. A soul has to learn how to cope

49:17

with that. So the soul brings

49:20

to the body intuition, imagination,

49:24

a concept of morality, these sorts

49:26

of things. So this is very important

49:28

when a soul is looking at that new body

49:31

and deciding whether this body is going to really

49:33

be right for them. So what happens with

49:36

after this viewing period is over. Souls

49:38

go back and say goodbye to their soulmates

49:42

and their soul groups and their guides, and

49:45

then they are brought forward into that

49:47

new body in the womb of their mothers.

49:49

I'd like to thank doctor

49:51

Michael Newton and the whole staff

49:54

of the Newton Institute

49:56

for keeping this groundbreaking research

49:59

alone live and well in the world.

50:03

Whether or not one believes in

50:05

life, between lives and reincarnation,

50:08

we all know we have a very powerful

50:10

subconscious mind. Life

50:13

between lives therapy sessions

50:16

empower the person living

50:18

now, which is in truth,

50:21

the whole reason we have shades of the afterlife

50:24

to empower you now

50:27

to live the best life possible. All

50:30

these episodes are like if

50:32

you go into a fancy

50:35

department store and you're looking

50:37

for an article of clothing. There

50:39

might be a hundred different

50:42

jackets on the rack, and you try

50:44

each one on. Some will

50:46

fit, some you'll return to the

50:48

rack, some you'll take home with you

50:51

same thing. With these different

50:54

conversations about the afterlife,

50:57

I personally do not think

51:00

it's one size fits all

51:02

for the dying experience and

51:05

entering the afterlife. With

51:08

so many different cultures on planet Earth,

51:11

I do think our dying an afterlife

51:13

experience may be different with

51:16

lots of similarities. So

51:18

take those that empower you

51:21

and use them to live your

51:23

best life possible. I'd

51:25

like to share with you this quote by

51:28

doctor Michael Newton and he's

51:30

talking about our intuition. We

51:33

should trust what we hear. Encourage

51:36

your inner voice with quiet

51:38

contemplation. When we ask

51:40

for guidance, it's best not to demand

51:43

immediate change, but instead

51:45

request help with only the

51:47

next step in your life. When

51:50

you do this, be prepared

51:52

for unexpected possibilities.

51:56

Have the faith and humility

51:58

to open yourself up to

52:00

a variety of paths towards

52:03

solutions. Variety,

52:05

of course, being the spice of life.

52:08

I'm proud of myself for now

52:10

over one hundred and eighty episodes

52:13

of Shades of the Afterlife

52:15

and well over four hundred episodes

52:17

of my interviews on We Don't Die

52:20

Radio. In the beginning, I was

52:22

looking for the answer

52:25

about life and death in the afterlife,

52:27

and now I've found my answer

52:30

and my truth, and hopefully you're

52:33

doing the same thing. Remember

52:35

to join me at weedodie dot

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52:51

In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain.

52:54

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52:57

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