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Are you ready for a sex question? Yeah.

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So this is actually a request for a topic,

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right now until we have the topic. But I think we've talked

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about it a little bit on some episodes, but not a lot. Can

5:11

you talk about voyeurism and exhibitionism?

5:14

Why are people interested in this form of

5:16

play or these forms of play? What are some

5:19

safe ways that people can explore this that

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won't cause an issue of consents? And we're not

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illegal. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Yeah. So voyeur, I identify as a voyeur

5:28

and an exhibitionist.

5:29

Well, right. You mean

5:32

if people are like, so voyeurism is when you're

5:34

watching. You get turned on and enjoy

5:36

watching people in their erotic state. Right.

5:39

And for instance, I know I've stayed at a hotel

5:41

before and I was a voyeur

5:43

because a couple left their

5:45

windows wide open. It was nighttime, the lights were on. And

5:47

I was like, wow, this is fucking hot. And

5:50

I'm like, is that consensual that I'm watching, but

5:52

their windows are open? I don't know. I'm not saying anything.

5:54

And I guess I'm not, but I don't know the room number to call

5:56

and be like, hey, yo, you're doing great work over

5:59

there. Or like.

5:59

Do I have permission to watch? Right. Sometimes

6:03

I know that I have a lot of big windows in my house

6:06

and definitely there's times where I don't

6:08

put down the blinds and

6:11

there's maybe like light backing and

6:13

I'm banging and I'm like, oh, I wonder if this

6:15

is not consensual with my neighbors. So yeah,

6:18

well, there's the other piece of the exhibitionism.

6:21

So we can talk about the consent thing about voyeurism. So

6:23

I wanna watch this and it turns me on.

6:25

And the voyeurism I think is usually is watching, but

6:27

what if your neighbors, we're in a hotel

6:29

room

6:29

as we're recording this, they're having sex on the other side

6:32

of the wall so you can't see them, but you're listening.

6:34

Or you drill a hole. Well, that's

6:36

not consensual. That's where the line is drawn.

6:38

If they're banging really hard, it's not your job to put

6:40

earplugs in unless you want to. So that's not

6:42

creepy. But so going into exhibitionism,

6:45

that's being turned on or aroused or

6:47

really enjoying being watched,

6:50

being the one that's being viewed or witnessed or ones.

6:52

You wanna bang in a park bench in Central Park. Which

6:54

could also be illegal. Well,

6:56

no, but that is exhibitionism. And

6:59

so I think one of

6:59

the things that's really tricky with both

7:02

of them is that there is this fine line

7:04

with the consent piece. And so

7:07

say I'm sharing

7:08

the hotel room, or I'm sorry, I'm on the other side of the

7:10

wall of strangers on the other

7:12

side, I don't know them. Or people I know. If people you know,

7:14

I would ask them before, like, hey, just so you know, we

7:16

might be really loud tonight. Are you okay with

7:19

that? And then get that consent for them to hear

7:21

you. But you do you. It's a hotel

7:23

room, you rented it to have loud

7:25

sex maybe. But if you

7:27

are doing it in a way where I'm

7:29

going to bang really hard and loud

7:32

in this hotel and because I get turned on knowing

7:34

other people might hear me, I

7:36

personally think that's a little bit of a consent issue.

7:39

Now, if you're just getting lost in the moment and

7:41

that's just hot to you to get lost in the moment,

7:43

you do you again. But like, if you're like, I

7:46

want the whole hotel to hear us but they

7:48

don't, I'm not asking them if that's cool, which

7:50

you're not, you can't even do that. I would

7:52

be, that's just disrespect in a way of like, people

7:54

are trying to sleep, they might have kids. I don't know.

7:57

Well, I think if people are leaving the windows open and

7:59

banging.

7:59

And you know it's really hot

8:02

you have an airflow

8:03

Well right, but I'm saying I don't think

8:05

that there's like there's no Yes,

8:09

and also if you're a voyeur watching like yo

8:11

like you sort of put it out there for

8:13

us to see and I'm liking What I see I don't

8:16

think that that is illegal. I don't

8:18

know unless I was really offended And I

8:20

don't know that it's

8:21

technically when you're in a hotel room I mean

8:24

you could really that it's like your own

8:26

private space So unless

8:28

you're doing something illegal and sex

8:30

is not illegal if it's to consenting parties

8:33

or three or four or five or ten Well the

8:35

two things that came to my mind is the flashers

8:37

and the peeping toms right so like I and

8:39

I think that most We're cool. They're all men. They're not

8:41

all men So the flashers are

8:44

the ones who would be an exhibitionist who there

8:46

and I have you ever had you've been flashed I've been yeah, I lived

8:48

in Sevilla, Spain Sabia and

8:51

I had dude that

8:51

was masturbating on a bus while I was riding the bus

8:54

up behind a newspaper and Looking

8:56

at you or was yeah, and then I had

8:59

all agree. I was 19. Okay, but I

9:01

wasn't and you still traumatic Yeah,

9:03

well, I it wasn't traumatic, but I was like

9:06

what is he doing? and then I kind of saw and then the Newspapers

9:09

were to drop I was with a couple friends that were like whoa and

9:11

then a dude came up when

9:14

I was different dude Thankfully a few

9:16

months later and came up dropped his pants and just started jerking

9:18

off in the darkness of the street Which

9:20

was freaky and I was just with one other friend.

9:23

Yeah, and we had we ran I said no me gusta

9:26

Good job. Yeah. Yeah, you tell

9:29

them but so that is a form of

9:31

flashing I haven't had like the the trench

9:33

coat opening where they just like show

9:36

Nakedness like that's the movies right

9:38

flasher. That's what I think of but the dropping

9:40

the drawers and the public masturbation Is

9:43

what I think of as being flashed? I had

9:45

an experience I think I was only like 12 or 13 walking

9:48

down mission Street in Santa Cruz with another friend

9:50

and This car

9:51

drove by super slow

9:54

this this guy so we're like we're

9:56

not I don't even know if we were in junior high Yeah, I

9:58

mean we might have been still in sixth I don't know.

10:00

We're probably yeah. Seventh grade, sixth grade. And

10:02

he's super slow and we're looking at him and he's

10:04

totally bait. And he's totally jacking off going really slow

10:07

on mission street. Wow. And we're like,

10:09

what's he doing?

10:09

And we were disturbed.

10:12

We were like, that's not consensual because

10:15

we just saw you getting off to us, saw

10:17

your penis or your cock or whatever. So

10:19

I, you bait and we're like, we're not consenting

10:21

to that. And we're super young. That's like,

10:24

that's a little bit too far. And I think even if we weren't

10:26

young, if I was 60, I'd be like still not

10:28

cool. So, and I think with these

10:30

pieces when it comes to flashing or, or

10:32

let's just say with, so a flash I'd say is more like the dark

10:35

side of exhibitionism when, if it doesn't come with

10:37

consent, it's like, I have to do

10:39

this. And I, and they're in a lot of people

10:40

are flashers. They're getting off

10:42

to that reaction. They want you to go, whoa.

10:46

Oh my God. Ah, you know, they're not, but

10:48

if you looked at them, so if you ever see a flasher and you really

10:50

want to fuck with him, look at him and look the other way. Like you never saw

10:52

a thing. Well, do you remember basic instinct

10:54

Sharon stone when she, uh, it

10:56

was that movie filmed and it was like, Michael

10:59

Douglas. Oh my God. It's so dope. You've seen it.

11:01

I've seen it. I still remember when she flashes the police

11:03

officers with her vulva. Um,

11:06

and it was like so hot and very,

11:08

it was very back when it was out. I think it, like,

11:10

I don't know. I think the late eighties,

11:13

early nineties, it's such a great movie. Still, we

11:15

didn't watch that vintage movie night. That was nine

11:17

and a half weeks. Okay. But that movie kind

11:19

of, that was flashing and all

11:21

the police, it was her and a bunch of men

11:24

in a room. She's getting interviewed for murdering

11:26

someone. Um, and Michael Douglas is in it and

11:28

she opens her legs cause she's wearing this beautiful

11:30

white dress. That's like kind of turtle necky and

11:32

opens her legs and then keeps crossing them. And all

11:34

the dudes are like, you know, the inter the

11:37

police officers that were interviewing her

11:39

were just

11:40

awestruck. And I was like, that is a form of

11:42

X well, she's definitely

11:44

a being flasher. Socially there is a little more acceptance

11:47

in vulva owning flashers, but I just say no matter

11:50

what y'all consent really matters, whether

11:52

you're packing a pussy or a cock or all the things.

11:54

I mean, my tit was at once when I was shopping

11:57

and I didn't know for how long, but I flashing the flashing.

11:59

People were looking at me, I was like, why is everyone staring

12:02

at me today? And then I was like, yeah, but that's not, that's the

12:04

idea of how long I was flashing the tip. Exhibitionism

12:07

and flashing as a part of that is intentional.

12:09

It is, there's a desire and arousal and turn

12:12

on to doing this thing. And you

12:14

can do it in a way where you get permission,

12:16

where it's safe. Now, if you don't have outlets

12:19

for this, like don't just go up in your hotel room window and

12:21

start bitin', that's not a safe

12:23

and consensual outlet. But here's an idea,

12:25

hire a cam person. You know, a cam

12:27

human, cam girl, cam guy, where you pay

12:30

them to show your junk to them,

12:32

to show your pussy, to bait, to touch yourself.

12:35

That is consensual, that's safe. Or,

12:37

you know, if you have a partner and you're like, hey partner,

12:39

sometimes can I just like run at you

12:41

and show you my wang and run away or whatever? You

12:44

know, you ask people permission or pay people

12:46

to have these experiences, but don't

12:48

just do it because you think you're in fucking

12:50

a time to it. That's like why non-consensual

12:52

dick pics are just so unwarranted

12:55

for me. Oh, fuck that. And that's flashing,

12:57

that's flashing. Exactly, that is a

12:59

form

12:59

of being an

13:02

exhibitionist without having consent.

13:04

And I do not like that, unless someone says, send

13:06

me one of your dick shots. Yeah, we don't want your

13:09

dick shots everywhere over here. No, we don't know.

13:11

And like if you're going back and forth and playing, I mean, whatever, then

13:13

obviously there's hopefully an open dialogue, but just to send

13:15

one on Facebook, which was, I'm like, no, if

13:17

I stopped opening Facebook messages, like no.

13:20

Everyone listening, do not send us one, we will be, we will

13:22

be banned. And if you see me out, whole bunch of my tits is out,

13:24

tell me, okay? That's what I want. I'll let you know. Or

13:27

I'll be like, yeah, you butt your tits out. No,

13:29

but

13:29

I was not contented to butt my tits out.

13:32

It was an accident. Okay, so the Peepee

13:34

and Tom, though, is more like the voyeurism. Again, this

13:36

is more like the shadow side of voyeurism because

13:38

you can do it in a way that is consensual. It's reactionary,

13:41

though, right? That's what they're striving for.

13:43

Not necessarily, the Peepee and Tom can be undercover.

13:46

So they're more sneaky, like

13:49

it's forbidden. So I'm forbidden

13:51

to see this person, like the classic

13:53

thing in a movie is like, someone's like

13:55

in the shower in their bathroom at home and your

13:58

house is on the first story. And there's...

13:59

And they say, Pee Pee Tom, but again, I

14:02

don't think it's all just penis owners, but

14:04

it could be more so. But they're in

14:06

the window getting off to seeing you, knowing

14:08

it's a secretive thing. And they're like, but they're

14:10

not asking permission for this. And

14:12

that's just one example of it. Whereas voyeurism

14:15

doesn't, is not only just shadowy and

14:18

you know, someone's identifies as a voyeur and

14:20

exhibitionist. I get really turned

14:22

on, not as much as important actually

14:24

being in environments where I'm around people

14:27

who are in erotic energy, including them having sex.

14:29

And I also get turned

14:29

on having sex and having people witness

14:32

it. But I generally

14:34

only do that at sex parties where

14:37

it's all consensual at the sex parties, like

14:39

the bonobo network sex parties. They

14:41

say, even though someone's fucking next to you,

14:43

you don't just get to stare. You ask

14:46

them, do you mind if I watch? You

14:48

can look, right? It's not that you don't ignore it. Like, I

14:50

don't see this, but if you're going to stare, you're joining

14:53

their scene. So you would say, Hey,

14:55

do you mind if I watch? And they say, no, you can

14:57

watch. Like, okay, cool. If they say,

14:59

or say, no, you cannot watch it. Then you go

15:01

carry on and you didn't do anything wrong. You asked. But

15:04

if they say yes, then watch away. I don't know. I

15:07

might be so in the moment, I wouldn't even know other someone else was talking

15:09

to me. I'd be like, what? Yeah. Yeah.

15:12

Maybe not. And then also if you don't have time to ask,

15:14

you can look for like a second, you know, Oh, hot

15:16

sex. Okay. But let me like give them their

15:18

space. So you're not joining in their erotic experience because

15:21

you might ruin it. They might be like, Hey, no,

15:23

we're having sex in this public place, but we don't

15:25

want you to stare. I just think there are so

15:27

many different ways outside

15:29

of like looking at

15:31

humans in the flesh, like the physical

15:34

for you can there like porn. If

15:36

you want to be a voyeur and have consent,

15:39

you can watch a voyeur porn or cam. Be

15:41

also there is a cammy or porn. Yeah.

15:44

But there's a yeah. Camming again, what's good paying someone? There's

15:46

exhibition porn where you can watch people fuck on a park bench

15:48

that was shot somewhere. But if you're, if you're,

15:50

you're paying someone to watch them now

15:53

on camera, touch themselves, or

15:55

maybe they're dancing from the camera or just showing you their

15:57

genitals and you get to be the voyeur

15:59

on the other side.

15:59

side in a safe conceptual way and helping support

16:02

people who want to make money. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

16:04

All right. Interesting question. Yeah. There you

16:07

go. You have some tips, uh, and this is

16:09

going to be a little bit different of a bio

16:11

time because we did the bio

16:14

in the interview. So stay tuned and

16:16

you'll learn about forest Andrews

16:19

from a narrows.

16:24

Today, we have forest Andrews

16:26

here from a narrows. He's been one

16:28

of our regular guests on shameless sex

16:30

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16:33

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16:36

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16:38

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17:03

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17:05

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17:07

we'd like to think of him as the prostate

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17:14

Ooh, what about the headmaster of prostate?

17:20

The headmaster. Come on forest or

17:22

welcome forest.

17:23

That's fun. That

17:27

was really fun. I fucked up a little bit, but you

17:29

know what? I'm human. You're a

17:31

human too with a prostate, right? A headmaster.

17:34

I just, I'm just like picturing him with some sort

17:36

of paddle in his hand is like, you will

17:38

listen to me. Or Harry Potter

17:40

with it myself. Yeah. For some reason, like

17:42

with a, with a wand. Oh, like headmasters.

17:45

You get hit with it. Yeah. All

17:48

right, Forest, we're super excited to have you back once

17:50

again on shameless sex. I, we're, I was

17:52

actually remember earlier, I think it's your fourth time on our show.

17:56

Uh, yes. Yeah. Your episode number

17:58

four. So that means you all know. I don't know

18:00

what that means, but we love Horace. And Horace always has wonderful

18:02

things to share. So, Horace,

18:04

even if folks have heard you on our show

18:06

before, can you please tell our listeners how you got to where you

18:09

are today in the field of sexuality?

18:10

Well, honestly,

18:13

let's put it this way. I started it on my own,

18:15

you know, far before I was

18:18

associated with aneros, but

18:20

it was really my association with aneros that

18:23

began the serious stuff.

18:25

By using this

18:27

product, I was able to discover

18:30

a heretofore, totally

18:33

unknown, at least to me, a

18:36

whole body orgasm. It

18:38

was something that was completely beyond my

18:40

frame of reference at the time.

18:42

And it was at a period,

18:45

actually, for aneros when it was

18:48

actually just before they became aneros, when they

18:50

were selling this product as

18:53

a health device. And I sought it

18:55

out as a health device, as a matter of fact. And

18:58

the very first time that I used it, I had a powerful

19:01

orgasm. And really,

19:04

that started into motion,

19:06

all sorts of different things. I ended up

19:09

collaborating with them. I became their tester

19:12

on all of their products.

19:14

And as a matter of fact, up until 2016, I

19:16

was the sole tester of aneros products.

19:19

Yeah. And

19:22

along that way, I learned a lot

19:24

more about this whole body orgasm

19:27

that I'm speaking about, how

19:30

it's generated, how you can extinguish

19:33

it by

19:35

kind of the wrong behavior around it. And

19:39

I really learned a great

19:41

deal about myself through

19:44

that whole process.

19:46

In 2016, they

19:48

asked me to come on full-time with

19:50

them. I became their product development

19:52

manager at that point. But yeah,

19:55

I've been all around the world with them,

19:57

attending different trade shows and kind of excited.

19:59

experience of being there as their

20:03

expert on this product. So.

20:06

You mean the guru of cis male

20:08

G-spot orgasms. Yes. You're

20:11

like, hello, here I am.

20:12

Guilty as charged. With the best glasses

20:14

ever. You always have these tinted blue

20:16

round glasses. If you're not watching

20:19

this on YouTube, check it out. He doesn't have those

20:21

on now, but you always have fabulous glasses.

20:23

I can go get them if you want. Well, you know

20:25

what? Save it for next interview because you'll

20:28

definitely be back again. And I love

20:30

that introduction because you

20:33

definitely were in a different field, but I feel like you found your calling

20:36

and you're such an educated human. And

20:38

I think your love for prostate health

20:42

came to play with working with Aneros

20:45

and Amy and I have been fans with Aneros,

20:48

with Aneros, we've been fans for Aneros, all

20:50

of them for such a long time. And

20:52

we've talked about this brand

20:55

so many times, even before you were a guest on the show. And

20:57

I love seeing it at trade shows and

20:59

not only with your tinted blue

21:02

glasses, but just what Aneros

21:04

is offering because it's so different and beautiful. And

21:06

you really turn the educative piece

21:09

with prostate health into

21:11

something that is accessible for a lot of people

21:14

all over the world. And I think that's something you speak

21:16

really highly of. So thank you for helping

21:18

be a part of that

21:19

and using your butt as a tester.

21:22

Your butt as a tester. I really enjoyed

21:24

it. Actually, prior to this time, there really

21:26

wasn't anything like this device at

21:28

all. I mean, people, if

21:30

they had the inclination to do something

21:33

like that, it would be with some kind of a repurposed

21:36

G-spot stimulator, which

21:38

is basically, back in those days, would

21:40

be a vibrator with a little curve on the

21:42

end of it or something like that, hard plastic

21:45

and

21:46

awful stuff they used to make. But it

21:48

was interesting because when I got into

21:50

it, again, there was really nobody that I could hit

21:52

up about all of this. I convinced

21:55

the company to start a forum. And

21:57

in that forum, I

21:58

posted...

21:59

really the accounts of my journey,

22:02

you know, and this particular path.

22:05

And along the way met some other people who

22:07

were doing the same. And we kind of passed

22:10

all of this knowledge on to everybody

22:12

that would come in. And yeah,

22:14

it's been, it's really, it's been a

22:16

long, strange trip. It's

22:18

been a long, strange trip. And you know, August,

22:20

obviously people talk about a

22:23

lot more butt stuff during August,

22:25

at least in not only the sexual

22:27

health world, but podcasting. We did multiple

22:30

episodes on anal play

22:33

and the importance of even prostate health. However,

22:36

it's no longer August, it's

22:38

September. And it's also

22:40

this like another fun

22:42

time to educate folks

22:45

on sex and sexual wellness. There's

22:47

still a theme here. I like to call it shameless sex, Denver,

22:49

but you know, I know you have something different. Well,

22:51

can you tell us more about why September

22:54

in particular is so special?

22:57

Well, September is actually National Prostate

22:59

Cancer and Health Awareness Month. Oh.

23:02

And at least in Eneros, it's

23:04

very special because for the last several years, we've

23:06

partnered with Zero, the Endoplastic

23:08

Cancer. Now this is a charity that provides funds

23:11

for education, outreach, testing,

23:14

and research. And over the past

23:16

two years, we have helped to

23:18

raise $25,000 for them. Why?

23:21

Yeah, yeah. So we're really excited

23:24

to be continuing that again this year and

23:26

we have a special promotion this month.

23:29

As part of that promotion, we are releasing

23:31

the first time ever a special

23:34

health edition of the Maximus Sin

23:36

Trident. Now this is a product

23:39

that we've never made before actually. Now we made

23:41

the Maximus. And for those of you

23:44

that are familiar with our products, the

23:46

Maximus

23:47

was released back in 2004 and

23:49

it belongs to some of our legacy products that are

23:51

made with a rigid thermoplastic.

23:54

Back in 2012, we started making

23:56

products that

23:57

integrated silicone over a rigid

23:59

core. These

24:00

are called our sin products, S-Y-N.

24:04

They're soft, they're beautiful. I just want to speak to

24:06

those because they have like this nice coating.

24:08

They're so gorgeous. Yes, so,

24:11

but again, these tend to have a different

24:14

feel to them, as you said, and

24:16

they have a different action as well. So,

24:18

and they're really the preference of a lot

24:20

of our customers that are our best-selling items.

24:23

So we decided to put out a

24:25

Maximus sin trident just

24:28

for this occasion. And we're really

24:30

excited about it. I mean, the Maximus,

24:32

this has been talked about in

24:35

our user forum, and it's always topped one

24:37

of the wish lists. So we're really anticipating

24:40

a big response to this, and it would really be good

24:42

because the proceeds, the

24:46

sale of each of these, a portion

24:48

of that goes to this charity. So

24:51

we really were excited about that.

24:53

You actually sent us some,

24:56

so April, I each got some Maximus

24:59

trident, sin or sin trident, something

25:01

in that order. Maximus, right. Sin

25:03

trident. Sin, S-Y-N. S-Y-N,

25:06

yes. And so- So some like

25:08

synthesis. And so for everyone out

25:10

there listening, it's actually still August because

25:12

we are recording in anal August right now, but this

25:14

will go online in September. And

25:17

so April, you and I only have like

25:19

nine more days to implement

25:22

this in our anal August exploration. I

25:24

don't know if you've already done it, but it's on my list of

25:26

things to try with my partner. So we have

25:28

this out, it's like, you are going to try this. We actually

25:31

did my ass the other day, so his ass is next, but willingly

25:33

with consent, of course. So I'm super excited

25:35

to try the Maximus sin trident.

25:37

Okay, this is combining two questions

25:40

together, we're gonna weave them. Number

25:43

one, why is it important for penis owners to be in touch

25:45

with their prostates in your opinion? And

25:47

also for listeners who might be a little fuzzy

25:49

on what the prostate is or where

25:51

it is, can you give us a little bit of an overview on it? Well,

25:54

in terms of the importance of being in touch with their

25:56

prostate, I should

25:58

put this out there. It

26:00

is prostate cancer is actually the

26:02

second most common cancer in men in

26:05

the United States behind skin

26:07

cancer. So from that aspect

26:09

alone, it's good to be in touch with your

26:11

prostate. There are also other problems that

26:14

are quite common that men don't hear about

26:16

a lot. Prostititis

26:18

is one of them. Chronic prostititis

26:21

is kind of a more extreme

26:24

version of it. I had that.

26:25

Is that like an enlarged prostate?

26:27

No. Or is that just a different? That's

26:30

different. Actually, it is inflammation

26:32

of the prostate and the cause

26:35

of that, you know, there's

26:37

one direct cause and that can be bacterial

26:39

and that's usually treated with antibiotics.

26:42

However, there are many men, myself

26:45

included, they're not responsive

26:47

to that.

26:48

And they don't really know why some men get this,

26:51

but they do. And actually, again, ironically,

26:53

that's what led me to the ineros

26:56

prostate massager. I was looking for some

26:58

alternative therapy for that. So

27:01

yes. So again, prostititis

27:03

is another. BPH is

27:06

another. Some of these things, particularly

27:08

with respect to BPH, that's that's

27:10

avoidable. This happens with age, but

27:12

the symptoms can be mitigated,

27:14

you know, by certain techniques and prostate

27:17

massage can figure into that. We

27:19

actually had a there was a study that was done at Columbia

27:21

University Medical Center, and

27:23

there was a paper published on this that

27:25

involved the use of our products. And it was found

27:28

that it was effective in about 80 percent

27:30

of the cases of people who used it for

27:32

symptoms of BPH

27:34

and chronic prostatitis, as a matter of fact.

27:36

Did you say what BPH was? I missed. I'm

27:38

sorry. BPH is enlargement of

27:41

the prostate. OK, OK, that's what it is. Hypertrophy.

27:44

And that's the one. Like, as you get older, if

27:46

you're a penisone individual and

27:48

you're going to live to 60, 70, 80, like your your

27:50

prostate just gets larger and just like your

27:53

ears, you grow menorrhosis,

27:54

nose hair, ears hair and your nose grows to like all these

27:56

interesting parts get larger. Yeah, I did not

27:58

know that. Yeah, I don't know.

27:59

I don't know if I remembered

28:02

that. It's not necessarily always problematic,

28:04

right? But I think that it's just a natural part of

28:07

aging in life. I

28:09

don't know why the system shows

28:11

these parts of the body to grow. Maybe,

28:13

you know, rotten

28:14

forest, but easier

28:16

access. You're

28:19

right. Well,

28:20

you would ask me also about what

28:22

the prostate is and what would, you

28:24

know, a little bit of background about it. It's

28:27

a gland. It's about the size and shape of

28:29

a walnut. And it's in men born

28:31

with penises. It's located between

28:33

the bladder and the rectum. And it serves two

28:36

basic functions. First, it makes the fluid that's

28:38

one of the main components of semen. And

28:41

the other is, is it provides the pumping

28:43

action or a great deal of the pumping action

28:45

of an ejaculation. And lastly,

28:48

it does have a muscle inside of it,

28:50

a sphincter, to be more specific,

28:53

that actually controls the flow of urine. So

28:55

it's important, you know, in terms

28:57

of a bodily function.

28:58

So wait, so if bacteria gets in there,

29:01

because you talked about that a little bit,

29:03

does that happen just because I know,

29:05

okay, I'm a woman, I

29:07

have a vulva, and I can get a UTI,

29:09

for instance, right? So from sometimes

29:12

bacteria getting into your

29:14

urethra somehow, yes. So is

29:17

that similar to why folks will get

29:19

some sort of infection or bacteria? I

29:21

know it's not the same track, but is it related

29:23

to? Yes.

29:24

Okay.

29:25

Yes, it is. Okay. It

29:28

happens in a similar way. And the thing

29:30

of it is, is that if

29:32

it happens with more regularity, that's

29:34

when chronic prostatitis starts

29:37

to occur. Now, it's not just definition,

29:39

just because, you know, it's happening more

29:41

often, but it's believed that as

29:44

we have inflammation in any part of the body,

29:46

by the way, there are calcium deposits

29:48

that occur. This is sort of a normal process

29:50

of inflammation. And these deposits

29:53

are left in the tissue.

29:55

And those in time, when

29:58

they accumulate in the prostate,

29:59

be irritating.

30:01

And so it's felt that that may

30:03

be

30:04

one of the things that leads to chronic prostatitis.

30:07

But in truth, there is at this

30:09

point, there is no conclusive

30:12

factor on that. There really isn't.

30:14

And if you talk to a urologist about it, it's one

30:16

of the things that they least like

30:19

about their job because

30:21

it's a difficult thing to treat.

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So with the antibiotics piece, so if you are experiencing,

32:12

I know we're not doctors, however, sometimes

32:14

you said you, you experienced some of the, you

32:16

didn't have it in large prostate, but you had the

32:19

prostateitis prostateitis. So

32:22

if you're experiencing, what is it like frequent peeing,

32:24

frequent

32:24

urination or

32:26

yeah. Right. What

32:28

are the symptoms that you should look

32:31

at to know if you have any of those

32:33

types of situations happening?

32:35

Again, it's going to be frequency of urination.

32:37

It's going to be burning when you do urinate

32:39

burning, even when you're not urinating,

32:41

that can be part of it. In

32:43

some cases, it can, it can get to, to

32:45

blood, you know, but

32:48

that's, that's pretty extreme.

32:49

Yeah. But that, that can happen. And

32:52

again, there are, if

32:54

it is simple bacterial

32:56

prostateitis, that's treatable

32:59

and it's, it's something that's usually

33:01

it's a course of therapy. It lasts from anywhere

33:04

between two to four weeks. And

33:06

they usually put you on something that's pretty heavyweight

33:08

too. But, but

33:11

it's pretty effective at doing that. It is.

33:14

But these other conditions, not,

33:16

not necessarily so. So, you know,

33:19

again, getting back to, to September,

33:21

it's just, it's good for people to be aware

33:23

of this. And, you know, we, we also

33:26

try and enlighten people about, about going and seeing

33:28

a urologist or seeing a GP that will do

33:30

a digital rec exam. There's

33:32

really, you know, there's no harm in this

33:35

and there are plenty of people that are out there that

33:38

will, you know, that will tell you that

33:41

not getting this done, you know, regularly

33:44

can be a real mistake. It really

33:46

can.

33:47

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, we're advocates

33:49

for it. Checking

33:52

ourselves, yourselves

33:54

on a regular urology is, is amazing.

33:56

We've had such incredible urologists on the show and all.

33:59

information. It's all related, especially

34:02

when it comes back to sex, right?

34:04

And sexual pleasure and getting back

34:07

to why it's important to to

34:09

regulate what's happening with your urine stream

34:11

or your dough when you when you're you know, going

34:14

number two or all of the

34:16

things they're all connected. So let's

34:18

let's bring it to the sexy time and to pleasures.

34:21

We're talking about sex. How does the

34:23

prostate tie into sexual pleasure?

34:26

Is it some sort of sensory organ?

34:28

Does it know everything? What does

34:29

it do? Was it your third eye?

34:33

Well, in the most strict sense,

34:37

it's a gland, it's an exocrine gland. So it's something

34:39

that actually secretes a substance outside

34:42

of the body like sweat glands. Okay. But

34:45

there are some very important sensory

34:47

nerves that traverse

34:50

over the top of the prostate. One

34:52

is the cavernous nerve. Now this is the one

34:54

that is responsible for erection.

34:57

Okay.

34:58

And obviously that that is very,

35:00

very important. In addition to that,

35:03

there also appear to be

35:05

sensory nerves

35:06

that are associated with the prostate itself. Now,

35:09

you won't find this in literature, unless

35:11

you really dig hard. It's funny,

35:13

because about eight years ago, I went to my urologist

35:15

and I asked him about this point blank, you

35:17

know, what, what is, I assuming

35:20

that there was, you know, a sensory

35:22

nerve that

35:23

was involved in, you know, in the prostate. And

35:26

he says, it's not, it's not a sensory

35:28

organ. There are no sensory nerves

35:30

there. Now I chuckled to myself. Okay.

35:32

Because obviously I

35:34

know different, you know, I've, I've

35:37

had, you know, by that point, it

35:39

was like, you know, 15 years of

35:41

prostate stimulation. So I know I'm feeling

35:44

sensation there, you know, there's

35:46

no question about that. In addition to that, there

35:48

is quite literally tens, if not hundreds

35:51

of thousands of people who have contributed to our

35:53

forum over the years, you

35:55

know, who will stand witness to the fact

35:58

that there are, you know, that are

36:00

there.

36:01

So there's a lot of anecdotal information

36:04

there. But up until about six years ago,

36:06

again, there was really no hard evidence on this.

36:10

But at that point, there was a researcher by

36:12

the name of Barry Kamizerok. And

36:14

he did some work on mapping sensory input

36:17

from specific areas of the body to specific

36:19

areas of the brain. He worked with

36:22

people with uteruses at one time.

36:24

This was back around the 2000s. And

36:27

he essentially what he did was he would he wheeled the body, and he

36:29

would people into an MRI.

36:32

And he would have these people

36:34

stimulate themselves to orgasm. And

36:37

he, you know, looked at where the

36:39

location on the brain was where the orgasm

36:42

occurred on the brain. He published a book called the science

36:44

of orgasm. If anybody wants to get into

36:46

that, it's, I think it's still available

36:48

on Amazon. But again, some years

36:50

ago, he started looking at the

36:53

situation with people with prostates. And

36:56

his whole approach was to try to map

36:58

certain areas of orgasm. And he looked at the areas of the

37:00

body, certain erogenous zones of the body

37:02

with areas on the brain. So he looked

37:05

at three areas of the penis, he looked

37:08

at the scrotum, he looked

37:10

at the perineum, he looked at the anus, and

37:12

he looked at the rectum.

37:15

And he looked at the prostate. And

37:17

all of these mapped to a

37:20

particular location, but they were all

37:23

discrete, they were all distinctly different

37:25

in terms of how they showed up

37:27

in the brain. And

37:30

I think that, you know, in my opinion, it is a

37:32

sensory organ. But

37:35

I think that it's something that that'll probably,

37:37

you know, show up in the future texts.

37:41

Because I think some of this knowledge is just getting

37:43

out

37:44

there. And

37:46

the sensory organ is that it has nerve

37:48

endings and sensations. And it's obviously an organ

37:50

because it has served specific purposes.

37:53

I mean, without it, you don't have a

37:55

lot of fluid for the semen to move

37:57

through. Although when someone has a vasectomy,

37:59

they get prostate flu, but no semen. So, you

38:01

know, it's doing some things. And

38:04

obviously, which brings us to our next question with you

38:06

about the pleasure piece. People

38:08

have had multi orgasmic experiences,

38:11

including you. And I believe you've talked

38:13

about this on the past three episodes.

38:16

But let's talk about it again, because it's

38:19

awesome. And everyone should know about this. So

38:21

multi orgasmic experiences for penis

38:23

owners, can you tell us a little bit more

38:26

about how the prostate plays into this from your own experience?

38:28

And what you've heard from all these people that

38:29

have written in about this? Well, I'd be delighted

38:32

to, you know, it's again, for

38:34

penis owners, there is a far

38:37

greater pleasure potential than they

38:39

know, a far greater orgasmic potential

38:42

than they know.

38:43

And I really spent the last several decades

38:45

of my life trying to get that information out there,

38:48

because I think that people should know about that.

38:50

But for the most part, folks

38:52

born with organizes are limited

38:54

in their knowledge of this.

38:57

And for them, you know,

38:59

pleasure begins

39:01

and ends with the penis. And it's the

39:03

same for the orgasm. Most guys believe that

39:05

orgasm and ejaculation are one in the same,

39:08

when in fact, they are two separate

39:10

phenomena. Okay,

39:12

so, you know, to understand this, I tell

39:14

people that ejaculation occurs

39:17

as a result of orgasm, not the

39:19

other way around.

39:21

So if you do some research,

39:23

or some even some personal exploration

39:25

on this, you find it's possible to separate these

39:28

two things. So, you know, but why would

39:30

anybody want to separate them? That's what I've,

39:33

time and time again, people ask me that. Because

39:35

when you do, you remove the lid on the size,

39:38

the location, the duration and number

39:40

of orgasms you can experience in

39:42

a given amount of time. You

39:44

know, these can be massive orgasms that

39:47

you experience all over your body, orgasms

39:49

that last for minutes at a time instead of seconds.

39:51

And you can repeat them consecutively,

39:54

with little or no time in between. So

39:57

in this way, we

40:00

believe that it's a superior type of orgasm,

40:02

you know, with seemingly no limit to it. And

40:04

for that reason, we call it a super

40:06

O.

40:07

Yeah. So

40:09

these are the, the orgasms that were, you know,

40:12

discussed in the teaching of the Tantra and Taoist

40:15

thousands of years ago and they're real.

40:17

And we feel it's time for people to really

40:19

start talking about them.

40:22

So why is it that more people

40:24

don't know about them? Well, first, it's the

40:26

simplicity of an ejaculatory orgasm.

40:28

And the guys find out about that, you know,

40:31

early in their youth and they access it easily

40:33

and as frequently as possible. Through

40:36

repetition, you know, their bodies become accustomed

40:39

to achieving pleasure in that way. And

40:41

it's almost like autopilot,

40:44

you know, fulfillment at times. But

40:47

by contrast, this other type

40:49

of orgasm, it's, it's,

40:51

it's a, it can be a little bit more elusive.

40:54

Okay. And so

40:56

it's something that you have to approach, pardon

40:58

me, approach with

40:59

some patients

41:01

and to, to achieve

41:03

really sensation with it and to achieve

41:06

arousal and later, you know, climax with

41:08

it. The other aspect that can be a limitation

41:12

is the method of access to it. By

41:14

far, you know, we feel that the short track

41:17

is through, you know, by the prostate.

41:19

And as you know, there are some guys that

41:22

are averse to anal

41:24

stimulation. And therein, you

41:26

know, lies some of the limitation to

41:28

it. Why is that better? You know,

41:31

a prostate stimulation, because it

41:33

produces sensations that lead to arousal

41:35

and orgasm without ejaculation.

41:39

You know, why not use the penis? Answer

41:42

is pretty simple there because people who have

41:44

penises, their bodies are hardwired to

41:46

ejaculate that way. And it turns

41:48

out that disengaging that

41:51

response is, can be pretty

41:53

difficult, you know?

41:55

So we feel that this is

41:57

the better way to go. The good news is

41:59

that when.

41:59

you become accustomed to generating

42:02

orgasm without ejaculation, it

42:04

becomes an easier place to go. You know,

42:07

it's like an address that you've been to many times

42:09

before. With time, it's possible to use different

42:12

kinds of stimulation to achieve, you

42:14

know, all sorts of different kinds of superorgasms

42:17

and

42:18

to use different areas

42:20

of your body, you know, nipple orgasms.

42:23

Very, very common. I love that myself. And

42:26

even more powerful than that, over a period of time,

42:28

you can use thought to do

42:31

that. And that's when you

42:33

get into a really cool area. And

42:35

it's something that I, you know, I think

42:37

that escapes a lot of people about our products

42:40

is that you can graduate

42:42

to, you

42:44

know, not using the product at all. And

42:46

some people do this, you know, and I'm not trying to

42:48

steer people away from our product by any

42:50

means. But what I'm what I'm saying

42:53

is, is that it is a learning tool.

42:55

It is a learning tool for you to get

42:58

in touch with your body in a totally different

43:00

way.

43:01

And after a period of time, it's

43:03

possible for you to have a mind

43:06

body connection

43:07

that supersedes everything. And I think that

43:09

that's really what people want to come

43:12

to. Because with that, I

43:14

mean, that that has that has implications

43:17

in terms of, you know, how somebody

43:19

interacts with a partner, you

43:21

know, during intercourse, you know, during

43:23

oral during everything, I mean, you can take

43:25

it to a completely different level. You

43:28

know, when a man is multi orgasmic,

43:31

he can have an erection, and he can

43:33

have orgasm and

43:35

not lose his erection. Okay.

43:38

So it the

43:40

opportunities, the potential is just

43:42

it's limitless.

43:44

And so my feelings, again,

43:46

what I what I try

43:48

to do is to get people to to

43:50

think about, you know, getting outside the

43:53

box that they're in. The first thing

43:55

that you have to do is kind of convince them that they are

43:57

in a bit of a box.

43:59

Right. in a box, here's some options.

44:02

Yeah. And that can be really

44:04

tough because, you know, again, you

44:07

know, I've had a lot of people say to me, it's just

44:09

like, Hey, this is too easy, man.

44:11

You know, I'm talking about, you know,

44:13

an ejaculatory orgasm, and it is and I'm not

44:16

knocking them. I'm not. I mean, that

44:18

has its place too. You know,

44:20

and I will tell you that

44:22

having an ejaculatory orgasm

44:24

after having 15 non ejaculatory

44:27

orgasms, it will be the most

44:29

powerful experience, you know, of

44:31

a traditional type that you've ever had in your life.

44:33

Oh, yeah. Right. I have a question

44:36

that is like, when you say

44:38

we, are you talking about the Ineros family

44:41

or the researcher? Because you've said

44:43

we, you know, you're like, we feel, and I'm like, who's

44:45

we, is it or it's in all

44:48

of the forum folks or who

44:50

is the proverbial weed?

44:51

It's generally forced

44:53

in the forum folks. Yes. Okay.

44:56

I speak to that from the accumulated knowledge that

44:58

I have,

44:59

you know, I love that. I just wanted to know, I was like, well, you can

45:03

speak French.

45:05

You know, I should put this out there.

45:07

The, the company itself is,

45:10

for the most part, had a really kind

45:12

of hands off approach to

45:15

the development all of all of this. The,

45:17

it's quite a mythic, you

45:20

know, quality to orgasm

45:22

and to achieving orgasm. You

45:24

know, that, that all came about in the forum

45:28

that came out about in the

45:30

interaction between people in the forum.

45:32

So, you know, the company has

45:35

been tremendous from the

45:37

very start in terms of, you

45:39

know, having this place for people

45:42

to go,

45:43

but this isn't something, you know, that they, that

45:45

they try to actively

45:47

manipulate or, you know, or it's

45:50

one direction or another, you know, it's an, it's not

45:52

pay to play.

45:53

It's not paid to play. It's like, if people are honest

45:55

and real, it's been very organic from

45:57

the very start and it really has a,

45:59

And it hasn't changed. I mean, the only thing that changes

46:02

is, you know, sometimes the, you know,

46:04

the buttons on the forum or they get a new

46:06

forum or something like that. And,

46:08

but, you know, outside of that, it's

46:11

always been self-policing from

46:13

the very start. And that's really kind of amazing

46:15

because I think in the history of that

46:17

forum, we have had, I

46:19

don't know, maybe two or three trolls in 20

46:21

years. I mean, that's pretty amazing.

46:24

You'll have to tell folks. You haven't made it unless you've had a troll.

46:27

Right. Well, right. There's always trolls and you'll

46:29

have to tell folks that we have some more questions,

46:31

but at the end where they can

46:33

find the forum, because I think that's important. I don't know

46:35

if we've spoken to that before, but we'll get there.

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We have a few more questions for us for

49:13

you because we have you here. Thank you for

49:16

defining the we. I was curious, and I was, I

49:18

just wanted to make sure. Right, I just wanted

49:20

to make sure I understood, right. I

49:23

appreciate that, yeah, definitely, because

49:25

it allows me to get this out there. I know that sometimes

49:27

people, it's funny because, as

49:31

I say, I started as a user, and so

49:33

now I work with the company, and I had

49:35

one or two people ask me if

49:38

anything has changed in terms of how I approach

49:40

any of this. The answer is no. It

49:43

really hasn't except for the fact

49:45

that now that I'm in much

49:47

more of a power position to

49:50

affect certain things,

49:53

changes that I need made on any

49:56

particular product.

49:57

So that I really.

49:59

I really do appreciate. But-

50:01

This is like when you texted me yesterday, the wrong message was

50:03

supposed to go to someone else. And it was like talking about

50:05

the like certain colors of products. And

50:07

I was like, I think you said this the wrong person. No,

50:10

no, no, no. That

50:10

was my ex partner. He gets me

50:12

some freebie printer supplies

50:14

from him. Oh, it was a printer supplies. I was like,

50:16

is there gonna be an in-earls in yellow? Because

50:19

I got a text about it just now. No,

50:21

no. You have to send it out. It's floating right now.

50:23

Sorry about that. I thought it was special. I thought

50:26

it was cool. So let's get back

50:28

to, thank you for explaining that for us. Let's

50:30

get back to something that I think is important because

50:33

surrounded and prostate play is definitely

50:35

a lot of preconceived notions,

50:37

especially from cis men. Let's

50:39

talk about, you know, a lot of penis owners that

50:42

form with penises and are

50:45

cis men. They identify as a cis male.

50:47

So, and I want to say something

50:49

to folks out there. The other day I was exploring

50:51

my partner's prostate and

50:54

I couldn't reach it with my fingers. And

50:56

I tried to try it. And he

50:58

probably be mortified if he knew that I was telling everyone

51:01

in the world about this. I think it makes it more awesome. I'm

51:03

just saying, but. Yeah. And I

51:05

was like, I need a narrow story. And

51:08

I was thinking about that because I did want

51:10

to explore because my fingers for some reason,

51:12

and I don't have like extremely

51:15

small fingers. And this might be diverting

51:17

from the actual question because my question is

51:19

about advice for people, especially the own

51:22

penises that want to explore their prostates,

51:24

but have fear. But also if you're a

51:26

partnered with a prostate owner and

51:29

maybe you can't reach it or you

51:32

have a fearful partner and you've listened to this

51:34

podcast and you want to

51:36

sort of initiate the conversation

51:38

about prostate exploration. Do

51:41

you have any advice for both of those

51:43

tiers? Not for maybe

51:45

for someone with short fingers like me, maybe just getting a narrow

51:47

product. Yeah. But

51:49

also for folks out there with penises that have

51:52

fear around having something

51:54

in their butt.

51:55

Actually my answer would

51:57

be the same and I know it seems self-serving,

51:59

but I'm.

51:59

I would say that getting

52:02

one of our products really should be your first

52:04

stop. And let me explain why. As

52:07

you said in the intro, okay, this

52:09

is a, an anally driven product.

52:12

So it is, it's something

52:14

that once you insert it, it finds its

52:16

own place inside the body, you

52:19

use your own contractions

52:21

to massage your prostate.

52:24

So you, there's not a possibility

52:26

of hurting yourself. You can't use too

52:28

much pressure with this. That's one

52:30

of the things that people fear and that sometimes

52:33

does come, you know, true

52:35

is, is that if they're doing this with the partner, the partner

52:37

will push too hard. Or if they're using a,

52:41

some kind of a handheld device, sometimes

52:43

they can get into trouble with that. One of the

52:45

reasons is, is that most of these products,

52:48

the handheld devices, what you don't realize

52:51

is, is that it's, it's kind of the physical

52:54

property of a lever arm. Okay. So

52:57

point is, is that a small amount of movement

52:59

that you make with the wand on the outside

53:02

translates into a lot of torque

53:04

inside.

53:06

And so you may not be aware that

53:08

you're putting more pressure than you should, you

53:10

know, on the prostate. In general, we don't

53:12

believe, you know, our philosophy is, is

53:14

that the prostate responds better

53:17

to subtle stimulation, subtle

53:19

to moderate stimulation. It's

53:21

not, you know, it doesn't do

53:23

well with being hammered. As a matter

53:26

of fact, with stronger stimulation,

53:28

the prostate actually starts to desensitize.

53:31

It's much like one's nipples. Okay. It feels

53:33

really good at, you know, a certain

53:35

level, but if you keep going with

53:37

the same kind of stimulation

53:40

and you don't break it up in a particular way,

53:42

uh, you get into what's known as a

53:45

negative feedback loop where you're now

53:47

putting more pressure to get the sensation

53:49

you had moments ago and on and on. And

53:51

that's when you can get into trouble with it. So I

53:54

don't recommend that people use wands

53:57

of that sort. I know that there there's.

54:00

One, yeah, I'm sure you guys know the Enjoy Wand.

54:03

Terrific product for an advanced user,

54:06

definitely. Or somebody who has

54:09

experience with prostate and anal play.

54:11

Definitely not for somebody who's just getting into

54:13

this for the first time. And we have several

54:16

products that are really good for that. The MGX

54:18

is great, the Helix, or the Sin

54:21

versions of both of those are probably really good

54:23

because they're nice and smooth, and

54:25

they make introduction into

54:28

the body much, similar.

54:30

I've actually had an experience with the Enjoy

54:32

Fun Wand through

54:34

some many, many, many years ago, where

54:38

I whipped it out and I was using it

54:40

on someone else to try to get to the prostate. And

54:42

they're like, really intense, really intense. And I was like, oh

54:44

yeah, it's stainless steel. It's a great

54:47

product. It is a great product. So were you

54:49

just like kind of like, I was in it? No,

54:51

I mean, I think I was trying to like, just do a little

54:53

bit of like, come hither-y thing. But like, of

54:55

course, a little bit is a lot. And

54:57

it's not my body.

54:59

And that's angled. And that one's angled.

55:01

So again, It's not a vulva or vagina.

55:03

You can't kind of like pound it. That's

55:06

a good point. They're great choice. I mean, I love stainless

55:08

steel, like you said, they're more intermediate or advanced.

55:10

But I would also think that you would probably want to get the feel for

55:12

using on your own body first because it doesn't have a lot

55:15

of room to give. And then maybe you can do

55:17

partner playwares with the Narrows. Another thing I really

55:19

like about Narrows products, they're not big

55:21

and scary. They're not like, what

55:23

is this huge toy? It's like,

55:26

they're compact and to the point and

55:28

have a specific design for health and

55:30

pleasure that is brilliant. And we had

55:33

a whole display at Pure Pleasure when

55:35

we were the brick and mortar and we still sell them online. But they,

55:37

you know, we had five or six products and took

55:39

up just, you know, one shelf and none of them are like,

55:42

oh my God, what is that thing? What is that weird

55:44

butt plug thing? It was- Since the beginning of the

55:46

story. Yeah, we always scared it. Always, always. Yeah. And

55:49

then these- One of the top. Yeah, new iterations would

55:51

come out. And the other top that came to me was, I think

55:53

you're maybe you're the same too, April. We are,

55:56

I think you would say, I have not really been into

55:58

non-human.

55:59

things inside of my pussy, but when they ask,

56:02

that's a different story. And I'm more into non-human

56:04

things outside of my pussy. I love vibrators.

56:07

But I think, so I just had to experience last night with just

56:09

playing with it. What are non-human things? A sex toy.

56:12

I know, but what other things? Sex

56:14

toys. I don't like- What other stories? Cucumbers

56:16

and cute parrots. I've

56:20

not liked anything other than sex toys or

56:22

flesh things. Historically, I have not liked

56:25

non-human things such as sex toys inside

56:28

of me, my pussy. They haven't really done much for me because

56:30

I think other people have used it on me or I've tried it on myself

56:32

and nothing has really happened. And it just reminds me of what you

56:34

said for us, that part of

56:37

it doesn't have a lot of room to give and

56:39

a little bit can feel like a lot. And so I feel these

56:41

things that don't have a lot of bend. But last night, I actually with

56:44

myself was using a vibrator in my clip and using that

56:46

Joy Lux thing that they give us. Oh, the infrared.

56:49

The infrared. I have the infrared on. I just

56:51

wanted the curves. And I was seeing

56:53

how I was able to kind of massage

56:56

my G spot G area. And then I'll see

56:58

is my fiber at the same time and

56:59

actually really liked it and

57:02

enhance the orgasm. But I was in control

57:05

of it where someone else was they were doing that

57:07

to me. And I think the G spot G area is very

57:09

embryologically same as the prostate,

57:12

right? If they were doing that to me, I'd be like, ow,

57:14

you're poking me. So I think it's

57:16

like self discovery on your own. And

57:19

which brings me to this question about newbies,

57:22

people that are new. And I'll bring it to intermediate

57:24

too, because we're talking about we just talked about all of those. I

57:26

think you just named a couple products. I think we always

57:28

recommend the MGX kind of the newbie. Yeah, that

57:31

was the first go to when at the store

57:33

level in 2008. Yeah, to 2000 when I worked

57:35

there. And then I don't know now. Yeah,

57:38

I think we start with like an oldie,

57:40

but goodie. Yeah. And so those are the questions

57:42

within that are in this can apply

57:44

to narrows products and also to other things.

57:47

But if I'm new to prostate play,

57:49

and I'm like, I want to play with my prostate, what you know,

57:51

how do I get started

57:52

into it? Maybe I got through the fear piece of like,

57:54

I think I just want to say something with a fear piece.

57:56

The anal thing for a lot of people who had negative

57:58

experiences and

57:59

of something that felt like too much, too fast, too

58:02

soon, or there's the stigma around

58:04

it. And like, if you can actually like explore it slowly

58:06

with yourself, maybe some good stuff would be there. So if

58:08

I want to do that, I'm new. What would you recommend

58:11

with the Narrows products and then other things? And then if I'm

58:14

intermediate or advanced,

58:15

what Narrows products would apply to me if I want

58:18

to explore? Well, to start off with, I think

58:20

you do, you've kind of covered this a little bit. I think

58:22

you have to kind of broach

58:25

that anal

58:26

aspect to it to start off with, you do.

58:29

We have one product that I

58:31

tend to recommend, actually we have two products that

58:33

I recommend for people who need to

58:36

break the ice, as it were.

58:38

One of them is called the Paradise

58:40

and they're actually two small stimulators.

58:42

They are anal stimulators. They're not much, I

58:45

mean, there's kind of like

58:47

large golf tees without the point,

58:49

you know? And it's

58:51

a very interesting toy because once

58:53

it is, and it's basically made

58:56

to reside in the anal canal,

58:59

it's not a prostate stimulant. And it is at

59:02

the largest, I mean, it's the size of one's

59:04

little finger.

59:06

And- It doesn't vibrate, right? Or is it vibrate? Well,

59:09

it achieves kind of a natural

59:12

fluttering motion. It's

59:14

balanced in such a way that it's balanced

59:16

so it's weighted inward and the

59:18

anal sphincter tends to kind of

59:21

make it teeter

59:23

inside the anal canal is the way that it goes.

59:25

And so what we suggest is that people insert

59:27

one of these and then enjoy

59:30

themselves in some other way in addition to

59:32

it. So it becomes something that's like a supplemental

59:34

type of stimulation

59:37

for them. So that's gonna apply to all asses though,

59:39

right? This is not for- Yes. This is a prostate. All

59:41

ass owners are just- This is Unisex.

59:44

This is a particular product, yes, okay. There's

59:46

one other one that we have called the UFO.

59:49

And this is kind of an interesting one because- I

59:51

have that one. I love that. Yes. For

59:53

many years, we sold this as

59:55

an advanced users product. We still do, okay.

59:59

And-

59:59

from the time

1:00:02

of its introduction, before

1:00:05

I, you know, when I was just a product

1:00:07

testing and consulting

1:00:10

with the company, I'd suggested

1:00:12

to them that they need to also

1:00:14

offer this

1:00:16

as an introductory product as well.

1:00:18

Why?

1:00:19

Because it's a lot smaller in

1:00:21

terms of girth, in terms of the

1:00:23

diameter of it, than any of

1:00:26

the other products.

1:00:27

And so it's a terrific product as an

1:00:29

icebreaker. One of the things is,

1:00:32

what this is known for is

1:00:34

actually generating some of the most subtle stimulation

1:00:38

of all of our products. It's also one

1:00:40

of the more responsive, the most actually

1:00:43

responsive products that we make.

1:00:45

So if the stimulation is subtle,

1:00:48

if it is small,

1:00:49

that's something that a

1:00:53

newbie can get behind or can get

1:00:55

in there behind, you know, without any difficulty. Yeah,

1:00:58

new, though.

1:00:59

Yeah, so that's one that

1:01:02

we're now,

1:01:03

again, I was mentioning, you know, now

1:01:05

that I'm, you know, on board here as

1:01:07

the director of product development, that's

1:01:10

something that I changed. And so this is something

1:01:12

that we put out

1:01:13

to the people

1:01:15

who are new to prostate play as well.

1:01:18

Nice. And I think that, how

1:01:21

many total products does

1:01:23

Anaros make now? I

1:01:25

mean, 14.

1:01:27

So it's kind

1:01:30

of amazing because you still have the flagship

1:01:32

products that really made Anaros,

1:01:36

which from the medical side to now,

1:01:39

the more it's novelty. However,

1:01:41

there's all of these beautiful benefits that

1:01:43

you can receive from

1:01:45

having an Anaros product. And a lot

1:01:47

of them, the majority of them don't

1:01:50

vibrate at all, but they all have such

1:01:52

a purpose. And I think that's really important

1:01:54

to highlight because yes,

1:01:57

for prostate owners out there, I

1:01:59

think just... having an Ineros product,

1:02:02

they're thin, they're small, if you're a newbie

1:02:04

or you're intermediate or advanced, but

1:02:06

having an Ineros product is really

1:02:08

a game changer for just

1:02:11

maintaining your prostate health. And

1:02:13

there's more research that's done all the time

1:02:15

that I uncovered and Amy uncovered

1:02:17

when we were doing our book

1:02:20

research, because we realized

1:02:22

that the amount of medical folks that

1:02:26

are in there willing to kind of back

1:02:29

up how important prostate massages

1:02:31

isn't that vast because it's hard

1:02:33

to get funding, but like there are

1:02:36

companies like Ineros and

1:02:39

even other researchers that are so

1:02:41

avid towards like

1:02:43

the importance of prostate health and how prostate massage

1:02:46

not only gives you this super O but

1:02:48

also can have these medical

1:02:50

benefits. And I think that if it

1:02:53

isn't going to damage you, why not try it, right?

1:02:55

Ask your doctor if you have an enlarged prostate and

1:02:59

so on if you have the BPH. BPH.

1:03:02

BPH, BPH, BPH. It's like,

1:03:04

yeah, yeah, the BPH. No,

1:03:08

it's something that

1:03:10

I mentioned too is, there

1:03:13

was a time when prostate massage was

1:03:15

the gold standard

1:03:16

of treating BPH, of

1:03:19

treating prostatitis. It was really

1:03:21

the only thing that they had with the advent

1:03:23

of antibiotics that were directed

1:03:27

at the prostate in the fifties and the sixties.

1:03:30

It kind of fell into

1:03:32

the back,

1:03:33

but it was rediscovered

1:03:36

because you had a lot of men like me who

1:03:39

were experiencing chronic prostatitis

1:03:41

that weren't having positive outcomes from

1:03:43

any of the drug therapies that were

1:03:46

out there. So you started to see holistic

1:03:48

doctors that were using

1:03:50

it in their practices. And now we're starting

1:03:52

to see physicians that are doing

1:03:55

it again. This is after decades.

1:03:58

And because they're looking.

1:03:59

for some alternative to treat their

1:04:02

patients. There was one

1:04:04

that I'm aware of that works out

1:04:06

of UCLA. And

1:04:08

he's used it in conjunction with

1:04:11

antibiotic therapy. The idea being

1:04:13

that he increases the

1:04:15

circulation in the gland at the time

1:04:17

when he has the antibiotic

1:04:20

on board. So you get better absorption

1:04:22

into the prostate. That makes

1:04:24

so much sense. Oh my God, that's brilliant.

1:04:26

And I'm surprised that more people are not on board

1:04:29

that like where you were giving you something

1:04:31

to help with a certain part of

1:04:33

your body, but why not also bring blood flow

1:04:35

there at the same time? And absorption,

1:04:38

like it feels good. And it feels good.

1:04:40

Exactly. Oh my God. And that's the whole

1:04:42

point. It's like, why not try this? This

1:04:45

prostate play, get in a narrow

1:04:47

story that is proven for

1:04:50

decades or decade

1:04:53

plus to

1:04:54

help folks massage their prostates.

1:04:56

You can have a super O or

1:04:59

multiple orgasms in conjunction with

1:05:01

this prostate play. So

1:05:03

I don't know why someone

1:05:05

with a prostate, like if I had a prostate,

1:05:07

let me tell you what I'd be doing. I'd be milking

1:05:10

that shit all day.

1:05:10

The other thing

1:05:12

too to keep in mind is, is that they're also really

1:05:14

effective Kegel exercise

1:05:17

devices. Oh, that's a great point.

1:05:19

And the way that essentially what you do, the

1:05:22

cool part about it is, is that it gives you sensory

1:05:24

cues in terms of how

1:05:27

strong your contraction is by the amount

1:05:29

of pressure that it's putting on your prostate. And

1:05:32

there are many guys who've been using these for years. And

1:05:34

as you know, this is happening, this

1:05:36

is coming out more and more. I mean, Kegel

1:05:39

exercises are good for things like erectile

1:05:41

dysfunction. Not all cases,

1:05:44

but ones where circulation

1:05:46

within

1:05:47

the pelvic floor muscles

1:05:49

is an issue. Again,

1:05:53

it improves pelvic floor muscle tone. It's

1:05:55

great for people who have incontinence. So,

1:05:59

and there's even. There's even some

1:06:01

research out there that it may help people with premature

1:06:04

ejaculation too.

1:06:05

We call it ejaculatory challenges.

1:06:09

Control issues. Or control issues, because

1:06:11

there's nothing premature about it. If you ejaculate,

1:06:13

then a kodakavod, as they say

1:06:15

in Hebrew, or good job. Good

1:06:18

for you. Good for you. And if it feels like a challenge

1:06:20

for you, or you identify as being a control

1:06:23

issue, like I can't control it and that's an issue for

1:06:25

me, then there you go. Try out

1:06:27

these other things. And I love that we live in an era with

1:06:29

so many products available. It's

1:06:33

September and Forrest told

1:06:35

you all

1:06:35

the reasons and more about

1:06:38

why and how you can

1:06:41

really support yourself or your partner that

1:06:43

owns a prostate or your friends or whoever. So

1:06:45

Forrest, how can people- Grandma, grandpa. Yeah.

1:06:48

All of them. How can people not only find the forum, because

1:06:50

we actually have an address where you can find the forum,

1:06:53

but if they want to find you, if they want

1:06:55

to access the products that

1:06:57

Aneros makes, or I don't know if you

1:07:00

offer anything in direct

1:07:02

relation to working with other folks, but

1:07:04

please give us all of the

1:07:06

ways that folks can find you. Well,

1:07:09

find me personally, it's tough these days because

1:07:11

I do a lot of traveling. Where do you live?

1:07:13

Yeah. Where are you? I'm

1:07:16

just kidding. You don't have to tell me. What's

1:07:18

your address? Black Pine Island. I'm on the

1:07:20

West Coast. Oh, nice.

1:07:21

No, it's no big secret, but

1:07:24

they can contact me actually through support

1:07:26

at aneros.com.

1:07:28

If they want to contact

1:07:31

me personally, just address

1:07:33

it to me in their email.

1:07:35

And it's something that I always get them that way.

1:07:38

It's much easier in terms of all of

1:07:40

my business

1:07:43

email address. That's all from manufacturers.

1:07:47

I also handle all of those duties too. So

1:07:49

it gets a little bit crazy

1:07:51

with that. But

1:07:54

yeah, I also wanted to point out too, if they

1:07:56

want to get in contact

1:07:59

with the

1:07:59

Eneros community,

1:08:01

that is our forum. Just go to Eneros.com

1:08:05

and click on community and you will see

1:08:08

the forum that's in there. There's also the blog that's

1:08:10

on there and there's a chat that's on there. And there's a lot of

1:08:13

other features that we have and it's

1:08:15

super cool. That's that way. One last

1:08:17

thing that I did want to add in here too,

1:08:19

is we were talking about a lot of, you

1:08:22

know, sort of prostate

1:08:24

massagers in general. I want to make clear that

1:08:26

our massagers are anatomically

1:08:28

designed. Okay. So

1:08:31

they work in harmony with your body.

1:08:34

I can't tell you how many products that I see

1:08:36

out there on the market that are five and

1:08:38

six inches long. And it's

1:08:40

just absolutely ridiculous. Clearly

1:08:43

these people have no concept of

1:08:45

anatomy because they're completely overshooting

1:08:48

the prostate.

1:08:49

That's how I felt about clitoral

1:08:52

stimulators forever. I was like, does anyone

1:08:54

designing this have a clitoris?

1:08:56

Cause I don't fucking think so. They're

1:08:59

looking at it on paper and they just think, Hey, doesn't

1:09:01

this look cool? And we'll give this a shot. And

1:09:04

it's absolutely ridiculous.

1:09:06

Remember like the old rabbits that were

1:09:08

just straight? Like the beads that you can pinch

1:09:10

the shit out of your internal, like vaginal

1:09:12

canal. Not straight. I was like, it's

1:09:14

not like that. Pinching beads,

1:09:16

I didn't now understand. Yeah. And so the

1:09:18

products that you all have, like we said,

1:09:20

they're, they're like 100% beautiful, they're

1:09:23

compact. And there's so many different shapes

1:09:25

and varieties that you can get. We

1:09:28

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1:09:32

I do not know if we'll be able to carry the Maximus

1:09:35

sin tried

1:09:36

it. And is that, that's a limited release. We

1:09:38

might have it. I'm not sure. It is a limited

1:09:40

edition release. We have no plan at this

1:09:42

point to, to put that into the product

1:09:45

line permanently. One thing that I will tell

1:09:47

you is, is if you're, you're a

1:09:49

listeners or viewers want to actually

1:09:52

win a Maximus sin, they

1:09:54

can go to the forum. They can go,

1:09:56

we're doing a contest that's online.

1:09:59

Okay.

1:09:59

They can do that.

1:10:01

And we might be able to do something here too, if you wanted to do

1:10:03

that. I think we can work something out if you want to

1:10:05

do that. All the places. We have a pre-release

1:10:08

contest that's going this weekend as

1:10:10

a matter of fact. And so,

1:10:11

uh, So September, September, cause this

1:10:13

is coming out September 5th. Before Labor Day. Oh,

1:10:16

September 5th is the air date. We're we're

1:10:18

in the, we're, they've been listening. We're in the past. They

1:10:20

will be in the future. Time.

1:10:23

What a concept. Um, you

1:10:26

know, I actually, I think that they will miss it.

1:10:28

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1:10:31

will. Shame of sex. I can do it. Yes. Instagram. No shame of

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1:10:35

will give away

1:10:35

some of the products. We have

1:10:36

to wrap it. Cause, um, we obviously

1:10:39

lose people's ability to understand

1:10:41

things after about an hour and we're like, Hey,

1:10:43

we love you. It lost me at 20 minutes. Yeah. However,

1:10:48

we love you. We love you for listening for us. You

1:10:51

are incredible. Thank you so much for being

1:10:53

here and for sharing more

1:10:55

of your wisdom and being a product

1:10:57

developer for an incredible company. You

1:11:00

have so much to share with

1:11:02

the world and so many more things

1:11:04

to share with the world. I can't wait to see what else. And there are says

1:11:06

you always do really cool stuff. Uh,

1:11:09

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1:11:11

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