Today’s conversation is all about the nuances of personhood and leadership, and we couldn’t have a better guest than Brian Hayward, a man with no shortage of beautiful inner complexities. Brian has lived a winding life filled with pivots, learnings, and success in business, and he recently wrote The Great Chair, in which he explores the secret sauce of authentic board governance. Our conversation begins with Brian sharing his life’s story where he highlights the light and dark sides of his upbringing, problem-solving skills, and tendency to be solitary and work things out on his own. We talk about his career and what he is currently investing his time and energy in, and more than anything external, it is the inner value of finding joy in the moment that Brian emphasizes. We talk about our culture of valuing achievements, of doing rather than being, and the reality that feeling totally satisfied once an external goal has been reached is an illusion. In the last parts of our conversation, Brian dives deeper into his book, sharing his extensive experience in board meetings and the recipe for truly effective governance. For Brian, good leadership happens by attraction, and trust plays a key role in laying a foundation for this dynamic. Our society is run by the decisions made by governing bodies and when these groups are run in truly communal ways, they are far healthier. So for today’s conversation with a guest who is as funny as he is wise, be sure to tune in!
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