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the great of is how he was sure was a size
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he was he sydney at it i also have was me
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process deaton ahead of his
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username is from the anglicised
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version it's hot july or few of the swiss version
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at school bully ago undersized
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is popular occupy still
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h o c h u l
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off your lawyer says recently straight as
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and the suisse's core who really
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really , whole orleans
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and you've ridden is wonderful extraordinary
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book as the so gorgeous a guide
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to the creatures in your neighborhood
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steer been sealed naturalist
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which i highly recommend as a way
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of finding the extraordinary in
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the ordinary or a bad youths are you just told
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me this we example example
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why birds in mexico city
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start taking cigarette butts
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into the nes why into
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that was confusing to start with of a something that people
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were observing and sign all this is terrible as birds
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a pilfering cigarette butts off the straighten
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it's getting stuck into the nests but as turned out
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that those cigarette butts in the nick attainments
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contained them is , a service
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to most birds it's helping ward off i'm an
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external parasites the act i parasites
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or on the outside of of birds that matson
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and tix either a pesticide that
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that nicotine is that those evolved for
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in the tobacco plant is now i'm i'm
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being put to work by those birds who it's actually making
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themselves healthy by trying to avoid having the parasites
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on the outside of i'm lydia destroyed so
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the earnest and his eggs
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in earnest said maybe and is
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of cells season or he classy
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budget twigs in the city so you'll see it was a digital
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earnest yep it's a stock standard kind of
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earnest with the twigs and of itself holding all together
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an arm and a thing out there at their bird that thrives
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in urban environments and essential it's just
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proven to be the one of those
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behaviors it's that spam proven to be
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successful as a south is be
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bird is courses and insects
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can hide under those scissors
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and have discovered that having
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cigarette butts in name latest
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releases and of nicotine in to what
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the air onto this is is to then kill
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the in six years is it just just
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just basically they rubbing against the nicotine
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that's in their arm of the mods and the tix
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can often communicate out of send
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a few diseases
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their way in terms of our blood borne diseases
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as a fading on the birds sites one of the wiser
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to avoid getting my sorts of diseases how
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did the instead of the booze with this
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as the george's may still a think ah
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cigarette butts do toxic waste of
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are you into my this or do they do a duet be i've
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accidentally it's and then discovered that
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after a while that is the head
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the cigarette butts they'd be few insists of in
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totally mates about us
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that's the the big question i mean one of the one of my
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, mean because there are some really fantastic
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examples of birds communicating
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and socially transferring information probably
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one of the best examples with go to some work
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that's sean sean i'm
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i'm sulphur crested cockatoos in in
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in in this i'm suburbs of sydney of talk
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to each other housewife and beans beans
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and been leads to the socially transmitting many
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information and showing each other how
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to i'm getting soggy beans nuts
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a very localized thing starts on the local populations
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that are doing it it's not happening all the way across
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the sydney it's just happening if the
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birds are actually sort of teaching each
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other how to do it and one bird
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learned this and then taught the other one
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a that's what it seems to be that the birds started
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learning lint men are watching a child the doing so
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the sexually transmitted part of it was i'm
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i'm i'm sitting and watching and looking at how
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experts can lift a m
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we are leaving that we used to collect fair rubbish okay
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now what we're talking about birds were getting out of order he will have
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to do this now this have hood the
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ibis referred to as ibis referred she
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can being sort of rather deprecating and
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people size any portable but in you'll find
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book a guide to the creatures
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in your neighborhood the open field
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naturals get a gotta get one now i'm
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you pointed out that there are different sorts of ibis yeah point
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outskirts i mean oh i'd love to take credit
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for being my phone book but i'm er i'm really
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lucky enough to avoid with a fantastic grupo
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i'm a couple that our colleges environmental
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philosophers and designers
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and will kind together to try and put it together
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as part of the open field naturalists projects
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i one of the things that come out in that book
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is with actually got caught a diverse number of voices
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are trying to speak to run
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and run through them and with a countries
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it is signed over they will get back into the store that the
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offices absolutely will when you get the chance to
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say the book you'll realize that the come as quite striking
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and so he said accused put that together she's
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a dissimilar from the university of technology sydney
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tom van doorn from sydney and is environmental
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a philosopher and feminism philosopher
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very i'm good at getting us to talk about
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the ethical dimensions of conservation
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and use britain some beautiful work on
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the crows that a i live on housing crisis
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a different it does have and then there's made
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as john martin has steered the whole
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hoyle if you want the force was says and john
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madden his i have a bird experts are many
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the stories on talking and with respect
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to birds hear things love lead directly
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through working with john we have some research that we
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collaborate on to look at some of those sorts of things and
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andrew barrels and other design of is really am
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little of the the electronic com elements
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that with gotten really got some fabulous
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new exciting things that will emerge from this all actually
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talk about how we can use new ways of
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communicating get communicating story this
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is probably humility as befits a real scientist
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and you are professor here diversity sydney you
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a part of the same the wrote this book summary
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curry service a martin's was
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one who said that that officers can be a stride
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is elizabeth is something in the tips
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it is like an iron the
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the money money say officers poking
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around optically after the wet anything
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on it's poking around him a hard though encounter
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something and what the answer is none of the this thing called
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a a viper tactile organ which means
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i can i bro tactile year
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and it just means i can actually since movement
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somewhere else in the ground and then start targeting
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the worms are they trying to wait so that got this
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enormous capacity to not i
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poke around and and fun things i
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mean i usually sense when something
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that they might be able to wait is nearby
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target
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and much like going get i said it through a lot more
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clever than we realize i think say i was
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reading years ago and i read books it's
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elephants when i step on the ground can be
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picked up sixty kilometers away
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and the elephant foot is not just
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this cylinder like a tree frogs are
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also so complicated materials with
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different viscosity and ability to
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pass you vibrations this and since
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another elephant sixty kilometers
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away sixty kilometers one
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of the things that as a biologists have had to take
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on board as animals done since the world the same
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way that waiters so me about that notion
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of an elephant sensing each other fifty kilometers
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away as amazing but there are a mosque
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that release a pheromone to try and attract
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them might the can bring which is tiny
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burial small amounts of this these molecules
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blameless can attract a mosque tense
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and kilometers away for this so sensitive
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to some listening so and it's a sign the got
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at not your real as a marker better at
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communicating in with sand but sounds
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that way cause he is i one of the great things
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about biology is whoop whoop whoop we need to
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actually not only look at
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the world through our eyes that look at it through the
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is noises oz
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and every sense of these other animals i don't want
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to recall a micro best to the is
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about sort of fall into two groups the betsy
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many , us a familiar with of the be a big fruit
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bats of centers that them that that them them acrobats
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democrats are those tiny little animals
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than the other that thing that when the best ways
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to think of them is that the german the fledermaus
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those other flying mouse this notion that the
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lot time little mice very delicate animals
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animals ten fifteen twenty grams or
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my spend their nights flying
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around trying to find in six to
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eight of enlisting entry hall
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as know like and their this remarkable little group the communicate
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using these arm acoustic signals sometimes
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as social call sometimes they're saving
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buzzes to try and work out where multiple
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base multiple use so nasa
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just checked were most likely so you send you a sound
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it , back at you and it helps you triangulate
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does it all the a million times smaller than regular
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basis they should really be called dc pets
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like a pensive a size of a regular bad all
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think we lock her up on a reason biology and i think
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macaroni big and small it's law is a lot the sauces
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of clothes you know lodge extra large
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and right okay fair enough to the structure
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of the bookies what is a naturalist naturalist
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do and co a in canada creatures and stuff
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how to study them and then she the skill
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the skill of storytelling and writing
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and sketching about observations and then selecting the stories
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but you came up with a list of five
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things that you should do is
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i'll read out to you i wish i did
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you should slow down is that right it is looking
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at the wilder and he's a firstly slow down yeah
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slowdown was a big one because one of the things
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that we we we really often do and we enjoy
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night years we often try to get from ice of
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a and there's some real benefits and just going
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to y n staying there for awhile and letting letting
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night to come to use i go like a lot
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of that comes from so from work on pollinators
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where we we explicitly have to stop
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sit down and stare at flowers for awhile so
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the slowing down thing is really just taking the time to
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observe and taking what's happening around
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you because something that many
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people are said to assess that ,
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he exegesis and watch and stare
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you'll start to see things that you just didn't say
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that with they're all the time but they'll stop moving
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around when you sitting quietly added
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, of animals when we have wandering through the
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bush or probably try to avoid being noticed
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by us with the owners i will reward
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cross bane en el camino seven ninety kilometers
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the get a different experience between tire
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rubber and shoe leather you you
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get to slide adds to the second thing is look
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and it's sort of actively look
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like really start looking for things that you were in
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i'm not knowing where to look and what to look
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for is one of the the big thing so
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i'm and if it wasn't opponent is again i'm and it's it's no
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secret that the going to be attracted to flowers
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but sometimes he'll say things living
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under rocks a living under bits of debris or
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watching what's happening with plants but just actually
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are spies active looking looking for small
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movement and it's more than
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just site on a night with a something they are not
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but one of the big things is trying to understand what
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they're doing is one of the great questions and in biology
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isn't so much who's
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living with either asking of trying to work at
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why they're doing what they're doing city
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got record opportunities
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now to share our observation driving record
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our we all walk around with a amazing
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fines and pocket and that's meant the cameras,
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the obvious one way if you you take the photo
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you can that with people at and
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all the video isaac wife actually getting the question,
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is that why they're doing things? but recording,
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the sands is another one that some great projects
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that involve sending my frog
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idea is classic wine by plus any fraud
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calls into the drawing museum because
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said i bet it's and frogs and that
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to a lesser using acoustics, lot
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of the time and i'm one of the things that happens is we
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want to who's making that call but we can send
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those coals into next
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bus to have that that that passion for those and i'll
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tell you who are you living with sight sometimes you might
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say these frogs have , about recording
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this is something some people as a journalist
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sketches that doesn't really effective way
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to do it too and it's a a almost
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done compels you to take the time when you doing
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that is different to test how the out your phone and yeah
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i was really involved in the source one
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is ask questions will stay
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or is a sane physics is not the answer
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the guess is a nobel prizes the question so
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you so slow look
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record and in a number for ask
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questions year and one of the reasons
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that there is that i'm in fact that the simple
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problem for us as biologists as weight when
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i was so little about so much as one
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on one of the reasons it's one of the really great science
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has to be a part of his that way forever
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finding new things and the why the world's changing
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is it was saying nice things happening all the
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time so asking time about why
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and animals living in one place where how
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a plants managing to survive and assess and there
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it was a t look at it on
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a row of plants at the council part of was
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some of the persisting one of some of them out
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was some of them are being hammered by insect
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attack wow this up i think
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this is a real gateway to sort of getting in
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tonight you're one of them is just realizing that what
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lives in or around us is fantastic of what they're
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doing is just extraordinary the more
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we learn about them it's the more exotic get side
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the asking questions is realizing that i'm there
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are so many resources out there so asking
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why the opposite doing what they're doing or why
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the have a flaws hanging around some flowers
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and know how the flowers minds that he
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, start putting your online resources
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of of books or movies look at ebook
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if you are often find because the urban
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sealed naturals to god to the creatures
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in your neighborhood by you in a bunch of you might
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genuine passion for nycha in the broader
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community in the semi final and once
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you get into it you can start find the answer so
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as questions and asking the questions is one of the things
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it as you mentioned in signs with on ask
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a question answering guy gripe that's done
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the census
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on on on the vortex of asking
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more more question is is asset you've got the
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system which is share in
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any books you talk about how to share and
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write stories and share with your friends and
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try and get together until the so the stories
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in the act of said you get better is
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one of affect the great things about sharing
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stories as that as you don't
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realize the people around you are just as interested
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as he might they and of have lost count of a number
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of thomas were authentic and i kid sporting
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events insane unusual things happening
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and then gonna explained what might be happening so
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great example is certain times of the
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join , interests catch huntsman and
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like paralyzed them and drag them across the
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the ground for them to lay their eggs and them
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and people say them and wonder what's happening
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in money is sitting man and game like
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cricket at uva lot of time to do it you
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talk about though the behaviors what power citizen
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means a whole notion of of lying and
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egg inside a lot animal that is paralyzed
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so that you can take your or your your
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space you're going humped the shit
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the sharing part of an is just it's it's part
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of building a sense of community to the
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a lot of that i think emerged as some of the lockdown
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things where we were really work and four it's a certain
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areas and paypal may have rediscovered the
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the local neighborhoods and even rediscover
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the anonymous and those those everyday
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night shift things and just talking about them seeing
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an interesting but or you
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, wondering why some of the buds correcting
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my i'd be acting like jokes like noisy monitor
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great example in the city and just talking about their
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behaviors and have and influence potential
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for other boats today implies that the i
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mean local social media groups or another thing
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where i've , count of the number of times
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that people have sent stuff to us with i just saying something
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and just for sharing that first little bit
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of gateway information information
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people have just got the deeper connection to the
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living with and all of a sudden becomes you
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know the airbrush turkey or i'm
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sharing your observations this and formal platforms
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the other thing about sharing is that they were from some
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formal citizen science programs that
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give you the ability to actually contribute
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to our knowledge in a slightly tape hawaii we've
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been fortunate and some programs
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that were involved in luck i'm a big city buds
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where we've been able to track the movements of
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australia and brush turkey through the suburbs just
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because we've got more sets of eyes
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on the ground and we've been able to find
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out things that we wouldn't have been able to find out otherwise
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and it's changed the whole nature of the story
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for these animals that come through just
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people contributing their observations in this
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audience in think the sharing can be sharing your own interest
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as well but it's also i'm the
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more we get with these kinds of observations
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the better a science can buy so if recently published
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papers that literally talk about how with
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, benefits of citizen science so we have
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found out stuff that we would not have that otherwise
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and it's early testing thing to have
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thing to of as you city since ninety five it
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he started off on in six
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plant in directions and
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his nose phrase euros he the world is
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green despite being
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put away by millions of ravenous in six
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be he's still trying to find better ways to he
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these players and in his i used to
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some bloke a stick caterpillars else
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who was story between at the locust
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in a grasshopper in the leagues or something like
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this the just a very specific taught of grasshopper
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i have is an amazing capacity the guy from
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what's called a solitary form to gregarious
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foreman and the those episodes is it is the sign
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or to sign status as a mental as when when
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is a lot of morale is your baby's something
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happens good for through just
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increased above subsided i'm in the size
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of most in sixes to me or at
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dawn
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what happens when happens with the increase about
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as all of sudden the tend towards towards towards
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thirty times as many babies around
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these are grasshoppers they are they the grass
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up as much as has severe the hoppers or nymphs
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that i have therefore wings there at the have to walk
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seven clustered together because i hatched out of a group
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of a , of hundred eggs that will
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live together in the ground as whoever
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is they survive this year the reasons are often
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bisected good rainfall and
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more food around it's food it's it's simple that
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the volga ship is hi i'm into the quality
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and the amount of food that surround that cause they're
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old close together and clustering around
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their food plants are my rub against
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each other a lot and that's been found to be the trigger
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spec leagues news researched and was
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people with brushes and stuff like that
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says we when they back like start hitting each
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other painstaking work with little paint brushes
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to basically we're rubbing the back legs of these
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little grasshoppers the ones that had
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their legs rub more developed gregarious
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forms of a chinese they they say forbid they changed
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their willingness to their same animal
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but it changes color changes color
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slightly bigger head compared to the arm the history
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of yep side yep side of and that might
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be related to the willingness to wait a whole range
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of of different foods that are around so they'll times
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they don't less and one of the best things will change
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their behavior mrs with the hope of applying
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behind it search of food kicks in so
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i figure that when that than a little a space get these
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animals don't have their wings that just hatched in the walking
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around and then in their final stages of
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adults when they got their wings that's when they
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get their capacity to today the had
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a massive migrations and really contributor
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to salmon in some other parts of the world
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way really can't afford those famines fogeys
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how about a whole bunch of source bet
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it's our the insects they try
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to eat the plaza nutritionally
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the are hard to do it builds they
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also has to avoid getting eaten as a tool that's
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caterpillars stacking the
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shells of their own heads
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as a defense mechanism yeah look like
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or or or an hour to size
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but losses as a caterpillars pretty crap
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and provide , it
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you know the food you don't look pretty i like
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a lot of well some of them have actually caught beautiful
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with some it's as if you gotta that part of the books
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up your phone some bright thing so competitive
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that night with caterpillar greed is a lot of
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falling in love with chemicals i was a let's not
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as is essentially a lot of things are trying
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to use i productions a really big issue for
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them so the caterpillars with that stuff they had
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capsules or a local local
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the mccambley skeleton mccambley essentially
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when a malt when it said said skyn must
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insects will a bad parts of the skin
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but the heads very hard parts of that's left are
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you with this is indeed some of the minerals back into your
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body and sansa why why why some and cyber
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these guys have learnt how to actually stuck there
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old heads on top of the new head
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as i markers when he when he said you're getting a brand
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new hit that sounding i you consider a big ahead you
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got from one sauce to the next on
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the exoskeleton the seals on
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the outside so you go to a resembles killed
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my son from fragile for was and grow new
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skills and yep yep so yep getting that
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external armor and to make it bigger say can
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get bigger and what they've done as i stuck both
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had capsules one on one on top of each other so
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the all you've got a record of your growth since
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we on since head and what we've been able to
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find is that they use them as a way
19:24
of trying to basically send off things that are
19:26
trying to eight them or parasatize some
19:28
sites behavioral a bit done some experiments
19:31
were removed had capsules someone kept
19:33
them on others in the ones that had they had capsules removed
19:36
capsules far more likely to be a son than the ones with
19:38
names or days
19:40
fuck i set off the oregon death when we were
19:42
going to do it sounds storage i was just a tough one because it
19:44
makes them number is the caption says
19:46
in the right was basically almost as long as the
19:48
body is it says this is t if you
19:50
can imagine if it was also want putting
19:52
about thirty baseball caps on it had only
19:55
been more do any better
19:57
and more fearsome
19:59
i ordered her to stick together in groups to me it
20:02
was a d more vulnerable say he's a whole
20:04
bunch of askew poor shortsighted bird
20:06
scamraiders was i do it is
20:08
easy more visible i think the evolution
20:10
of gregarious behavior is probably based on
20:12
individual success say you are probably
20:15
more likely to encourage predator com i saw
20:17
angie but it may also be more likely
20:19
to avoid predation events
20:21
if they take someone else i the some work
20:23
that's done we'll the effects
20:25
of group size on caterpillars and we just put out with
20:28
literally put a different size numbers of caterpillars
20:30
on plants and just looked at rights of predation
20:32
and yeah there are times where
20:34
the entire group get a son but this seems to
20:36
be from an individual's perspective you're
20:38
more likely to succeed at your part of
20:40
part large group compared to compared small
20:42
groups cussing a system as a selection pressure
20:45
minutes if you don't do it suggests a optimism
20:48
they were it is you're an animal your insects
20:51
and come along to apply it was just a lot of any
20:53
advice and you say he is that
20:55
the plans since out chemical signals
20:58
the a bullet it it it if anyone guys and grabbed
21:00
the eucalyptus and crunches in my hand
21:02
you're pretty quickly realize as well as hello are
21:04
pretty dramatic signal so if you're a caterpillar
21:07
that's chomping away on a
21:09
it'll it'll a for instance your relay
21:11
seem as well as hollow very very quickly
21:13
and we've been fortunate enough to be down in
21:15
the basement of our chemistry department and measure
21:17
the things that are being released and then we have
21:19
two thousand and put them out into
21:22
the sea of me found that they're actually and attract
21:24
and some predators that queuing
21:26
that queuing the volatile oil that their
21:28
plots realizing sign in an innocence it's a plant
21:30
cry for help or young yet the support they bring
21:33
in the i'm was in our opinion air support
21:35
at on knock off the caterpillars as a honey
21:37
bees a polarizing you say any
21:39
currency will they are all apis
21:41
episode something he's a the right nine the
21:44
your pain honey bees i personally to they're not
21:46
native to australia for the a bad or you
21:48
am i being too simplistic out
21:50
it's it's it's a tough one cause i'm in this is
21:52
absolutely no doubt that episode securities
21:54
linked to a hard worker of honey based
21:57
in australia though there are such an important colonizers
21:59
many crops and , actually a really
22:02
important pornographer lot of and nice if plants
22:04
as well with done some work that looks restored
22:06
remnants of urban bush land sound that the animal
22:08
for the doing the heavy lifting with respect
22:10
to pollen i see many of an as his plants
22:13
a generalist as it plans the honey base
22:15
i really important honey base
22:17
earnest money to this i good at finding a flower
22:20
recruiting there might still at the very sophisticated
22:23
communicating monitor little weed waggle dance
22:25
yeah like by they were to secure a dancer
22:27
it's a waggle dance that says he just expensive
22:29
and as we will have never heard of it by send
22:32
out far to stick on find things and as he happened
22:34
to come across this brilliant chunk of flowers
22:36
that a full of for wards the that's gonna help
22:38
you on his on wheels go again gaza
22:40
she'll go back to her nest and she'll i'm to
22:43
this dance and the dances to mine elements
22:45
tortoises where these things are but
22:47
really importantly it says how good they
22:49
are often as not as not
22:51
simply a case of going of his food over they
22:53
should go there there he chemical
22:55
some average flowers you know that can communicate
22:57
that but you're not doing with the same mom
23:00
and put it syncs exposed
23:03
i'm saying is actually tell his sister's that this
23:05
food his have that this and it's brilliant
23:08
everyone get there and that's one of the reasons that this so
23:10
good at recruiting flora resources
23:12
and that means i might be outcome pacing
23:14
some of and i see his face and that's one of the real challenges
23:17
with other important for food security
23:20
by on the colonizers natural
23:22
environment but there are concerns that they
23:24
are a couple of things not say well one is that by might
23:26
be competing with and eyes he pointed as and
23:28
the other is that some of our flowers just don't have
23:30
the shape the billie bee pollen
23:33
i should affectively bolland so honey base can save
23:35
from them and not necessarily provide the socialization
23:39
your book is it's a cold in the bleachers
23:41
may have people the urban feel that yourselves
23:44
irvin ecology the
23:47
funny place to do ecology but one of the things
23:49
that happens is that cities fundamentally change
23:52
what what night you can do we remove certain plants
23:54
and animals that we bring a lot of other animals and plants
23:56
in and there's a lot of pressures that com
23:58
it's as a could think of it as a real hostile
24:00
environment for night she got pollution you've got
24:02
alibis that hatred urban hate holland offense
24:05
fragmentation of habitats and one of the things it's
24:07
really wonderful from a biologist perspective
24:09
as it provides is this living laboratory to go
24:11
and work in assigned many things happening it's
24:14
, really important thing to realize that are awesome we
24:16
knew that of m side of the cities of the printing
24:18
of places to work is also a
24:20
recognition that we need you to a passenger home of concerning
24:23
nitrogen cities and making it accessible to paypal
24:25
so so a better way to organize
24:28
things like replanting nycha funding accessible
24:30
nature and i guess one of the things that with
24:32
seventy percent of the world's population living the world's
24:35
environments for a lot of us the
24:37
only connections were going to get tonight you're gonna
24:39
be the stuff us on a wider work or
24:41
living around us where we are
24:43
living around ounce and as such
24:45
an overwhelming body of work now that says that
24:47
connections tonight show and engaging with
24:49
everyday night shift can enhance
24:51
our wellbeing both wellbeing both and mental
24:54
i think we need to define what is which ever way
24:56
we can to try and get out and the
24:58
connect with it and find out what floats your boat and don't
25:01
do it
25:04
spiders i'm so scared of spiders
25:07
the have gone through every training program
25:09
of gotta say there were organ they sleep put
25:11
my hand on of
25:13
photograph of a spider he
25:15
a you an erection of her these kids fighters or
25:17
thing i'm thing a retina five hour terrorists
25:20
as terrorists as in laws and cities
25:22
yep some of the spot is that we share our worlds
25:24
with a pretty amazing the
25:27
things what the golden orb way but some really compelling
25:29
evidence that actually enjoying life and cities more than
25:31
in the natural environment and , terms
25:33
of steering spotted minute and it is it is important
25:35
to realize that some of them can be quite dangerous
25:38
but but of the really frustrating
25:40
part is that the body can't doesn't go anywhere
25:42
near justifying me and says we have winner
25:44
that killing spiders is not a good
25:46
thing for the overall our
25:49
being against go killing go thing
25:51
for us last spot
25:55
about australia since the eighties essence
25:58
the anti venom amanda's the capacity to the
26:00
high , healthcare meant we're very fortunate
26:03
i'm not only cavalier but nothing
26:05
like read backs and fauna weds could
26:07
be dangerous but the evidence with got is that provide
26:09
a were careful we have we live with him
26:12
we were ever they they they everywhere we just not
26:14
nice and most of the song so that case in
26:16
in my case of the intellect see where of
26:18
it and even though my daughter and i our cities
26:21
these kids leslie my was is not
26:23
and says she's one specific how get
26:25
this spot of the size of your head
26:28
of take it outside if you insist
26:30
a who it was having easy and nav it gets
26:33
changed is changed sinkhole the adolescent
26:35
debussy interest adolescent debussy
26:37
and boy girl stuff
26:40
and it's confirmed some worth it's sense to be a global
26:42
phenomenon in the western world but the around
26:45
twelve thirteen connections
26:47
tonight should drop quite dramatically and
26:49
you can sort of guess why i'm and things like that
26:51
high school starts pivot he starts and is
26:53
all lot of social drive is that much it
26:56
is more noticeable and girls and boys because the
26:58
girls and mourners funny where are the girls are coming
27:01
from a higher baseline for that meant that
27:03
i lock night to more than boys typically three
27:05
ancestry puberty they really the nature
27:07
yeah and i bez dropped down to the same again level
27:09
is she like and and it's not a catastrophic drop
27:11
the stiller a light and interest in it but
27:13
it's one of it's it's really interesting thing say adolescent
27:16
deep as one of us really noticeable trends
27:18
in the uk north america or eat
27:20
throughout europe and the lot you look
27:22
at some of the concerns either a either youth
27:24
mental health and and and and the fact that there
27:26
is getting , saw it and
27:29
and those experiences can be part of dealing with
27:31
it i think under the the covert locked down
27:33
to a lot of people found that you can find
27:35
ways to try and encourage kids to get out and fond
27:37
the bit that helps them because it is still in the is an interest
27:40
there we know there's an interest there but that death is a really
27:42
big concern and hopefully with your book at the
27:44
event soon it'll be an author all but if they start
27:46
on this book pre pvt they know still
27:49
love their friends and loved nature now
27:51
proficient dita hockey loyal whole
27:53
highly oh wow
27:56
okay i'm wow by the interests
27:58
of they didn't have just one language the three languages
28:00
are now for for like a mindless sort
28:03
of the four languages as an outlet their dialects
28:05
of german french and italian and is
28:07
also or i'm on issue i have any
28:09
those dc and i mostly very good proper
28:11
german ah stick swiss german which is a dialect
28:14
which is useful in about one hundred square kilometers
28:16
of i'm rules with would go to germany
28:18
can they understand you are try and my
28:20
sleeve and some meaningless thought i'd
28:23
say that gets to have people follow you and
28:25
you're fired eleven
28:27
feel natural produce is on twitter instagram
28:30
and up the want to follow my i'm i'm just at data
28:32
hockey july one word on low value
28:34
ticked off and instagram and lotsa twisting one
28:36
of the things x gonna come out as done at like
28:39
every bit of night show like he mentions his spot as
28:41
something like a the snakes but what
28:43
we want to do is see if you can find whatever
28:45
floats your boat go out and and and
28:47
enjoy it and pursue it till other people about
28:50
it and i share the joy she the pleasure
28:52
of unusually good a preview of mental
28:54
health business is that the decision to
28:56
the city's to get whoop whoop it's
28:58
interesting to them in the evidence seems to show
29:00
that it's it's not just it's having my
29:02
turn green are in the broader nine primary
29:05
race or far as to having nights in the
29:07
having nearby nights or everyday night she can be
29:09
that big trauma that and this working
29:11
if you look at forest bathing in japan stasis
29:14
this , that you can actually get doses of nights
29:17
of this this is going out and grounding yourself
29:19
and just enjoying time out there so it's actually
29:21
sentiment prescribed for people to get out interesting
29:23
i've gotten sick most tiny parks in a city
29:25
like tokyo which has millions
29:28
and millions of paper with paper secret opportunity
29:31
to got about twenty parts and what people actively
29:33
, type of their shows and enjoy i'm and yet
29:36
again it's not for everyone but it's one of those things
29:38
that the work seems to cut across many
29:40
cultures it's a severe
29:42
that the potential phenomenon that we actually
29:44
had actually sense part of part packet of trying to help
29:46
myself happier and healthier ah sedated
29:49
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