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about it. The ended in I mean that's

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true of me in general monitors Anything I

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could talk about or talk about. It's okay.

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give me I first was at first when.

2:08

Birds. Of a feather. Flock

2:10

together. Okay, so this is. I.

2:14

I. This is basically I'm trying to think of

2:16

a in my gay. I've always heard it

2:18

used this way isn't But basically it means

2:20

to me like. People

2:23

who. Act a certain way or

2:25

like a certain thing or whatever, tend

2:27

to group up. Yet totally right so

2:29

you could use it either. Positively Designs

2:32

Ah D C. The kids have found

2:34

each other and this whole school are

2:36

birds of a federal fox. Ethics or

2:38

you the user like why they always

2:41

the three your city, three ruffians together.

2:43

Ah well. Murderer Feather those. Miscreants will

2:45

always find. Each other exactly. Yes,

2:49

make a t said the sense that

2:51

you so much and it goes all

2:53

the way back to ancient. Wait

2:56

release. Yeah, the first mention

2:58

of like Seeking Like was

3:00

recorded in the Book of

3:02

Ecclesiastic. ah the quote being

3:04

birds dwell with their kind

3:06

said that a literal not

3:09

troll observation that serves as

3:11

a handy metaphor On and

3:13

since ecclesiastical as essential to

3:15

both Hebrew and Christian holy

3:17

books the folksy say is

3:19

likely entered the public less

3:21

the con around the time

3:23

that litter sea routes in

3:25

Europe began to rise. Cel.

3:27

Once people started actually reading the

3:30

books instead of having books read

3:32

to them, it's bad. a little

3:34

further around. Ah, I'm and you

3:36

know, the full English saying of

3:38

birds of a feather flock together

3:40

was first recorded and sixteen forty

3:42

five. Or six. And. When

3:44

that was when birds are flocking java hundreds

3:46

read that and they're like, oh, That's

3:48

a good boy. Were. You at. Family.

3:51

Who are sense because at that point was that

3:53

you'd see penguins. An awesome job hanging out together,

3:55

mayor stepping on each other and been going to

3:57

be I go swimming in the authors like. Did.

4:00

I am not safe. Can imagine a

4:02

slim not to can master distiller? I

4:04

don't think so. Okay to me right

4:06

now you're gonna bet money on now.

4:08

Say to fifty for decide. You asked

4:10

yourself. they. Got the wrong kind of feathers? did?

4:13

That. Her. You're. Probably right, but I

4:15

babies will execs. I'm picturing. it's the

4:18

guess as long graceful legs, Do.

4:21

Answer to that includes okay, Okay

4:23

am. I think that

4:25

in my experience I've heard it

4:27

more in the positives that people

4:29

whose share interests and likes tend

4:32

to come together. Them

4:35

I haven't the negative but that is yummy.

4:38

I'm the says evasive services

4:40

of a zoo tweeted about

4:42

says and it is now.

4:44

Birds About Austria's odds Austria's

4:46

can swim. By. A lot

4:48

calmer behave of an fix her like

4:51

if some other asked Assad officers seven

4:53

they bragged. Weird. What are

4:55

they want to eat? What I own? A man

4:57

I am I say. But I didn't. I didn't.

5:00

Want. To we're not a me antibiotics for

5:02

young when we could. Also yeah we

5:04

can have swim but we don't do

5:06

it. We don't do it. But look

5:08

at Gary over there is a swimmer

5:10

way. I don't imagine it's very comfortable

5:12

for that. Like I said, the wrong

5:14

time to set their citizens of take

5:16

care of another swans. Here's another again

5:18

ugly form of that's just the next

5:20

Ah, I'm third. Time's a Charm

5:23

submitted by an Oem. Okay,

5:27

I know what this means isn't and I think

5:29

I know our cars from an attack. Okay what

5:32

it means is like we try to retire from

5:34

under third time it'll work rights or drugs that

5:36

I'm sure what I think it comes from. Because.

5:40

They taught in a think

5:42

it's hen. Ah,

5:44

I'm. Make. Bass. right?

5:47

Where it had something thrice and like they

5:49

talk about a image as in books about

5:51

a cast as he literally like a time

5:54

you repeat a thing three times to cast

5:56

the spell. Ah,

5:58

I'm. Sor. But.

6:01

Probably before that. Oh

6:03

ah, I'm. So.

6:06

Seen in France eighteen thirty

6:08

nine but wait way before

6:10

that some in print it

6:12

was mentioned by Elizabeth Barrett

6:14

Browning who wrote a letter

6:17

to are a torn saying

6:19

the luck of the third

6:21

adventure is proverbial So I

6:23

mean. I will. Rnc? Yes,

6:26

Okay, because you care. reference something

6:28

as being proverbial. It's not already

6:30

proverb. Right or has it

6:32

is already widely circulation, light.

6:35

Some. Of the number three is

6:37

a sacred number and a host

6:39

of religious traditions. All the

6:42

way from like pagan so identifies

6:44

the sacred nature of earth see

6:46

the sky to the holy trinity

6:49

in Christianity to a lot of

6:51

different places. Rain I'm so sorry

6:53

is considered powerful and also lucky.

6:56

Interestingly. We see

6:58

a similar origin with the Superstition of

7:00

Thirteen. Being an unlucky we I just

7:02

said way. But I was it an.

7:06

Interesting. Ah, Now. But. Very.

7:09

Thick says the Thirteen sitting down for

7:11

dinner. I know it's like modern right

7:13

in my get the last two hundred

7:15

years. By. Deflect from

7:17

early May. Two hundred surveys in

7:19

early two hundred emails were it's

7:21

the ideal. Be a serious issue

7:23

that if thirteen people sit down

7:25

for dinner. Whoever. Gets out first

7:28

will be the next to die He and

7:30

yeah. But. Indeed, it doesn't

7:32

say immediately. Another, the

7:34

next will be the next insistent. Desist

7:36

the next one. Whether that's and

7:39

twenty years. but

7:41

it just means like saw an at an

7:43

the on up. the rest of us are

7:45

cool and other day i went there goes

7:48

down for know if you're beginning of the

7:50

things. We should look into that. Here's

7:53

another one. When. In

7:55

Rome parentheses. Do.

7:57

With the Romans, do okay. So this is

7:59

basically. I'm when you

8:01

are somewhere. Or like for

8:04

example, the you go to a

8:06

nude beach right? This is not

8:08

something you would normally do. Ah,

8:10

but here. Why? Not do

8:12

it when as the nude beach. why not go

8:14

nude right said than you would say when in

8:16

Rome. Do. As the Romans basically ah,

8:18

you are adapting to the customs of

8:21

the look a senior at. Yes,

8:23

Melds, he sent this an

8:25

arm and that all that

8:27

is true. The

8:29

phrase ah is is

8:32

very old, again, often

8:34

attributed to St. Ambrose.

8:36

Who was a massive proponent of Roman Christianity

8:39

and the Three Hundred's He's credited with being

8:41

the first person to attest to that quote.

8:43

If you should be in Rome, live in

8:45

the Roman manner. If you should be elsewhere,

8:48

live as they do. Their had that. So

8:50

I mean it's a lot longer. Here

8:52

but I'm is I do like that those not

8:54

only thing when in Rome do agree with you

8:57

but then following that to it's logical conclusion which

8:59

is a man if you're not around and you're

9:01

somewhere else do a baby. Their Salt Lake. Definitely.

9:05

Your example of. The.

9:08

Save the new. Beat. That.

9:11

That is one way of using

9:13

this says, but the other way

9:15

is attributed to Romans. Historically were

9:18

very quick to on this Ah,

9:20

especially anyone who broke the law.

9:22

so a misstep and Roman society

9:25

would quickly make you the victim

9:27

of everything. Maybe from like a

9:29

public shaming to Ah to banishment.

9:31

Orator were right or wrong meaning

9:34

that you you could be used.

9:36

The phrase could be used to

9:38

justify behavior that you would normally.

9:41

Protect dance but also

9:43

a warning. To. Act

9:45

accordingly or lest you

9:47

be passed. Through

9:51

I was there. And for

9:53

or else four ounce is

9:56

another one, place is up

9:58

said dust. Hi!

10:00

So this is when something's been

10:02

on sale. It's Last Legs which

10:04

is another injury another way when

10:06

something has been struggling for a

10:08

while ago. The have a car

10:10

that is bringing down by. you're

10:12

able to keep time. it's freezing,

10:15

couple more miles out of it.

10:17

One more trip and then when

10:19

it won't work anymore. After being

10:21

on the edge for so long

10:23

and you finally gives up the

10:25

ghost examine something suddenly breaks. right?

10:28

It's when something has been kind

10:30

of struggling for a while and

10:32

finally felt sorry for a Disney

10:34

stopping doing something because you know

10:36

it won't work right? I guess

10:39

I use it as like Alice's

10:41

give of the Go summer. Yes

10:43

yes my guys. Like that

10:45

car that he said after it

10:47

club gives up the dust you

10:49

don't use it anymore because you

10:51

know. It won't work yeah I mean but

10:53

in both said as he would be associated

10:55

with like with and we've been struggling as

10:58

with this for a while right? What matter

11:00

whether see. Figuratively or

11:02

literally right and and might be like

11:04

a problem at work that you are

11:06

glad. You know what in southern this

11:08

one flu server while in our day

11:10

others the to give up the ghost

11:12

I'm. An ass suggested the sun

11:14

and it can also mean. To

11:17

pass away right? I mean sure.

11:20

Sure does and. I mean, that's.

11:22

That's. Probably one of the original ways

11:25

that it was used for the

11:27

i do like diamonds of Leg

11:29

living is just totally clinging to

11:31

your guys this assistance and like

11:33

now this is mine that then

11:35

given the Anurag. Okay fine. I'm.

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At and. This didn't set out to

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11:44

continue to arise. One of you know

11:47

this. I'm that both has been

11:49

very influential on American culture for

11:51

reasons. Ah, on give

11:53

up the dust. Some specifically

11:55

from the King James version

11:57

of the Bible. It

12:00

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12:03

Jesus I'd in that particular

12:05

addition. the exact phrasing as

12:07

from Mark Chapter Thirteen verse

12:10

thirty seven is an. Places

12:12

cried. And Thirty seven, Fifteen Thirty seven

12:14

To that. What I find out about

12:16

Thirty for thirty years of his leads

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right as leads and gamers Big? Oh

12:21

well, as they say we're now, it's

12:23

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12:25

That and Jesus cried with a loud voice

12:28

and gave up the dust. Ago.

12:32

I mean we always events in the Prince. Yeah.

12:35

The prince and say okay,

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This is one that I have

14:42

not heard. Dun- dun-

14:44

dun! You've never heard this? Never heard this

14:47

one. Okay. Salad days.

14:49

Oh yeah! It's when

14:52

everything is going right and it's the best

14:54

of times, and you're like, these are the

14:56

salad days. Usually I think I've heard it

14:59

in, uh, like a retrospective

15:01

form of like, looking back at those

15:03

were the salad days. Everything

15:05

was going well, everything was going smoothly.

15:08

Huh. Amanda suggested this one.

15:11

Um, and like you said, it can

15:13

refer to the good old days or

15:15

perhaps the youthful peak. Sure. Um,

15:18

and this is attributed to William

15:20

Shakespeare. That

15:22

guy? He used the

15:24

phrase in, uh,

15:26

1606 in Antony and

15:28

Cleopatra. Oh, that's probably why we

15:31

don't recognize that. Not a widely done one.

15:33

Yeah. Not a widely done one of the 37.

15:36

In the speech at the end

15:38

of Act 1, Cleopatra is expressing

15:40

her regret over her youthful romantic

15:42

dalliances with Julius Caesar. To

15:45

express this, she says, my salad days

15:47

when I was green in judgment, cold

15:50

in blood, to say as

15:52

I said then. Okay.

15:54

I guess that kind of makes sense. I've

15:56

always been confused by him because

15:59

like salad is. not normally evocative

16:01

of like rich and

16:03

decadent times. Right,

16:07

like if you said champagne days, I

16:10

would get that, right? Or if you said

16:12

like filet mignon days, I would get that.

16:14

Okay, well, I think that

16:16

you have something here because

16:19

Fowler's Dictionary of Modern English

16:21

Usage says whether

16:24

the point is that youth like salad

16:26

is raw, or

16:28

that salad is highly flavored and

16:30

youth loves high flavors, or

16:33

that innocent herbs are

16:35

youth's food as milk is babes

16:38

and meat is men's, few

16:40

of those who use the phrase could perhaps

16:42

tell us. If so, it is

16:45

fitter for parrots than for human

16:47

speech. Yes, I agree

16:49

with this. Also, knowing it come from

16:51

Shakespeare, I can also give it an

16:53

angle of without refrigeration

16:56

and stuff, probably lettuce and

16:58

fresh vegetables. Oh, that's another good one. Where

17:00

probably quick to wilt, you know what I mean?

17:02

Yeah, you gotta eat them while they're there. And

17:05

the difference being like meat, yeah, meat, spoils

17:07

too, but meat is like

17:10

already pretty brown in color, right? One

17:12

can preserve meat a little better as

17:14

well. But if you think about like

17:16

tomatoes, carrots, like these bright, alive,

17:18

vibrant colors that very quickly brown

17:21

and wilt and stuff, I could

17:23

see that maybe. Maybe, maybe. Here's

17:27

one, put a sock in it. Another

17:30

one from Mel G. Now this is be

17:32

quiet, stop talking, right? Like

17:36

very easily like either somebody is

17:38

running their mouth or they're running

17:40

their mouth. Or they're,

17:43

I don't know, they are kind of

17:45

critiquing somebody or they're being sassy and

17:47

you say, yeah, put a sock in

17:49

it. I thought for sure

17:51

that this had something more to

17:53

do with the kind of like

17:55

violence of socking someone, like hitting

17:57

someone. Oh really? Maybe like put a sock in it.

18:00

Falcon, It means like I'm gonna put

18:02

my fist in your mouth to stop. Yes,

18:04

Something like that. As hate. I understand

18:06

why you would think that and

18:08

I know what. I know why.

18:11

Let's start with affirmation. Okay, I

18:13

understand socket to media and were

18:15

Zoc, you are absolutely. Now.

18:18

When it comes to the Amazon, you're supporting

18:20

them in their mouth. I'm. Going

18:22

to put my fist inside your mouth. Is

18:25

a while, does bleep out. If

18:28

you punch somebody they're probably going to stop. Talking

18:30

about what they were thought yeah but I would put

18:32

I would never say oh you better watch out I'm

18:34

going to put assists in your mouth. They

18:37

were bad what area that fit you are

18:39

but I also repair wouldn't say like I'm

18:41

in a put a face on your face

18:43

in a in a strong and fast manner.

18:47

I. Rarely use a lot hours to

18:49

describe plan saying. So. The

18:51

theory is that this phrase actually

18:53

comes from slang during the First

18:56

World war and many assume that

18:58

it was because people with stuff

19:00

Sox into the horns of their

19:03

early gramophone to quiet the music

19:05

emulator a neat you would put

19:07

in from that Yeah, right. And

19:10

so putting a sock in it's

19:12

came to mean quiet down or

19:14

be quiet or. right? Yeah

19:16

mimic says his leg When I think

19:19

of that phrase it is very like

19:21

nineteen twenties, thirties, forties, air put a

19:23

sock it or of he is right

19:26

like the i don't sound of that

19:28

as kids Now I give items if

19:30

I was on the playgrounds and I

19:32

heard a seven year old say to

19:35

another seven year old a put aside

19:37

gamer I was last my face off.

19:39

Them. To be fair, I don't know a lot of

19:41

the slang that these kids and. I'm. Sally A in

19:44

a lot of Iraq and and I'll tell

19:46

you that mine, what's. With all this

19:48

residents the video. Yeah, they put

19:50

escape it in the success of

19:52

eg as giving yourself a rebellious.

19:54

Committee. yeah.net put a raising your

19:56

give it a. Okay,

20:02

clean as a whistle by a trace

20:04

D or Tracy D. I'm not sure.

20:06

I mean, it's clean. Like it's right there

20:09

in it, but it's just like usually as

20:11

one often might say sparkling clean zest fully

20:13

clean. That

20:16

that but it is like cleaner than clean, right?

20:19

It is like, Oh my God. So

20:21

clean one might also say you could eat off of

20:23

it. Yes. But

20:25

this comes from a very

20:28

literal thing. Back

20:30

in the olden days, whistles themselves

20:32

were carved from reeds or pieces

20:34

of wood. Yeah. And

20:36

it should have a very piercing

20:39

clear tone. But when

20:41

it came to these original whistles,

20:44

that piercing clear tone took a

20:46

lot of mastery to carve into

20:49

your actual whistle. So like something

20:52

like a small piece of debris

20:54

or a few drops of moisture

20:56

could easily change the sound of your whistle

20:58

to make it, you know, not

21:01

as clear. So clean as

21:03

a whistle has to do

21:05

with it getting that desired

21:07

sound from being

21:09

immaculately clear and clean.

21:13

What's interesting is I am now the

21:16

more I think about it, it's

21:18

like my brain can't quite associate it with

21:20

a specific imagery or scene or something. But

21:23

picturing someone like cleaning the barrel of

21:25

a gun, cleaning an instrument,

21:28

cleaning even like

21:30

glassware, something where it's like you are

21:32

cleaning an item, even

21:34

one where you're cleaning the inside of an

21:36

item, right? And then saying clean as a

21:38

whistle, right? That it's not just like, oh,

21:40

this room is clean as

21:43

a whistle. Unless it was completely

21:45

bare, right? That's when I would

21:47

associate it as clean as a

21:49

whistle. Like if it was empty of furniture

21:51

and rugs and lamps and all that kind

21:53

of stuff, then I might describe a room

21:55

as clean as a whistle. But see, I would

21:57

say in order to like, for example, if I

22:00

was cleaning. cleaning some of the tubing

22:02

on my aquarium filter, right? And

22:05

I got it all the way clean. I would describe that

22:07

as clean as a whistle. And so I think it makes

22:09

sense that it is like associated

22:11

with I'm cleaning something out. Okay.

22:14

All right. Yeah, it makes sense. Yep. Yep.

22:18

Here's one. Okay. Screwed

22:21

the pooch. That's a

22:23

weird one. I know, right? I like the sound

22:25

of it because of the... Are you in here?

22:27

The assonance, is that what it's called? The assonance,

22:29

yeah. This was submitted by

22:31

Ava M, but it still is

22:33

quite evocative, right? Yeah. Through

22:36

the pooch. It's usually like you did

22:38

something that ruins the plan, I think.

22:40

Yeah, must up. Yeah, but not just

22:43

messed up like, oh, you tripped, but

22:45

like you kind of gotten your own

22:47

way or you

22:49

fumbled the ball on that one.

22:52

Or you did something in

22:54

such a way that made it all go

22:56

wrong. Like say you were trying

22:58

to do a presentation at work and

23:01

you inadvertently made a joke in it

23:04

that you're like, oh, this is going to kill. And

23:06

it ended up like offending the boss. This is going

23:08

to kill. That's another one. Yeah. And

23:10

you ended up offending the boss and you're like, oh, I really

23:12

screwed the pooch on that one. Yes.

23:15

Which I must assure our

23:17

audience that this does not

23:19

entail any harming of animals. It's

23:23

a euphemistic version of the

23:25

original expression, which was. Well,

23:29

there's some censoring going on. Sensoring going

23:32

on. Breed the dog

23:34

and sell the pups, but a lot

23:36

more, you know. Yeah, I

23:39

understand. And

23:41

that was the more vulgar of the

23:43

original phrase, which was feed the dog.

23:46

Okay. What's it mean? It

23:48

was popular in the 1910s and it meant

23:50

to say that you were being lazy or

23:52

loafing around because dogs were often referred to

23:54

to signal laziness. And

23:57

since it was an undesirable

23:59

quality. Feed the dog

24:01

became breed the dog which

24:04

the frangs got slangified in World

24:07

War two and so now it

24:09

means referring to blundering or making

24:11

a public and humiliating mistake So wait,

24:13

it was before breed the dog and

24:16

sell the pugs Yes,

24:18

so screw the pooch

24:20

specifically Wasn't

24:23

until around 1979

24:26

1960s in there, right um

24:29

It became very popularized with the

24:32

book turned movie the right stuff

24:34

which was based on the mercury-7

24:36

space program so according to Tom

24:38

Wolfe screwing the pooch

24:41

was 1960s NASA jargon and

24:44

It was included in this to make

24:47

it more authentic. Okay Okay,

24:50

though. That's hotly contested

24:53

because radio DJ

24:55

Jack May Also

24:58

known as Candied Yam Jackson never heard

25:00

of that. I like that though claimed

25:04

publicly that it was him who turned

25:06

the breed

25:09

the dog into screw the pooch And

25:12

he claims he started using the phrase in

25:14

the spring of 1950 after he got into

25:16

a friendly argument with his roommate who was

25:20

John Rawlings a NASA engineer. Ah Turtles

25:24

all the way down. I know right? Okay I

25:28

guess I'm still trying to make sense how the

25:30

phrase breed the dog and sell the pups

25:32

was used Okay, not like

25:34

you would say like oh you really read the dog and

25:37

sold the pups on that one or was like Well, you

25:39

know what they say breed the dog and sell the bugs

25:42

um, I mean, I I think I Think

25:46

that it's more that like you

25:48

really went all the way down this

25:50

bad path. Got it. Okay. Yes

25:53

Okay, okay now I got

25:55

it yeah, you've spread this in

25:58

the world exactly exactly And

26:01

this is the part of Idioms now

26:03

where we go

26:05

through things that maybe your grandpa always said

26:08

and you've never heard anyone else say in

26:10

your whole life. Like when your

26:12

grandpa was like, I want to order an apple pie here.

26:14

And we're like, grandpa, we're at Taco Bell. And he's like,

26:16

I don't care where we are. I would like an apple

26:18

pie, please. And you know, like grandpa, they don't have apple

26:20

pie at Taco Bell. And he's like, I know, funny, huh?

26:22

And you're like, it's pretty funny. That happens.

26:24

Did it? Yeah, my father was sitting in the back of the

26:27

car this one time. And we were driving through the drive through

26:29

there and we were at Taco Bell. And he was like, uh,

26:31

apple pie? And my mom was like, not that one. No. And

26:34

he's like, I just wanted an apple pie, please. And then in

26:36

the back he was leaning over to me and Justin and Griffin

26:38

going, I know they don't have apple pie. And

26:40

it was very, very, very funny to me. Okay.

26:44

Oh man, you're poor mom. I know.

26:46

Um, here's one from Cameron. Uh,

26:49

hello. My fiance

26:52

will not stop saying it's a horse,

26:54

a piece. I have never heard

26:56

anyone else say this and I'm convinced that they

26:58

made it up. Please help. Is

27:00

this nonsense? That, okay.

27:03

It's ringing a very small bell for

27:05

me. I'm trying to,

27:07

to horse a piece. I don't know what it

27:09

means though, but I swear I've heard it before.

27:12

It's very reminiscent of six of one, half

27:15

dozen of the other. Right?

27:17

It means that two things are basically of the

27:20

same value. Oh, okay.

27:22

It dates back to the 1800s and actually

27:25

has nothing to do with horses. Oh,

27:27

it comes from an old

27:30

dice game called horse. And

27:32

in this game, if two players each lose a

27:35

turn, it was said that they were at

27:37

a horse, a piece because both that

27:39

had the same result. But

27:41

if two players both skip a turn, how can you

27:43

tell? I

27:45

mean, guess we lose your turn. Yeah. But

27:48

there doesn't it just keep going for

27:50

there or does it sit quietly for the length

27:53

of time the turn would take? I mean, it was to

27:55

think about what they've done. Describing the event of both

27:57

of you losing turn. Yeah. My

28:00

during your does. It

28:02

said. Other get has has had since

28:04

psychosis and. Morgan who.

28:07

Don't think we have to both lose a turn. Yeah one

28:09

and then the other I as I can

28:12

imagine that I ever saw the most I

28:14

was playing and I play with turn on

28:16

you and myself somehow like lowered voice or

28:18

that the new reverse. But you

28:21

can't be, You've lost his chance. I get to go

28:23

again. But the A with this of America. Okay,

28:27

Ah, Rachel Seized wrote

28:29

in several delicious Ah

28:32

Idiom series.com these aren't

28:34

locked him. In new

28:37

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28:40

he nita. Translate

28:42

to Punic trust and co

28:45

workers to that carcinogens during

28:47

the Punic wars who were

28:50

a longstanding enemy of the

28:52

Romans. Therefore, Friday's boudicca refers

28:55

to the greatest treachery or

28:57

statelessness. Okay,

29:00

I remember that one. Ran.

29:04

A cute. T. A

29:06

tie T. Guess the. I

29:09

think literally means to touch the matter

29:11

with a needle or. Hit.

29:13

The nail on the head, Or. Put a fine point

29:15

on or oh, Yeah. Yeah.

29:18

Here's one Ah, I'm new

29:20

case Reeling K Raise! Meaning.

29:23

To relinquish the nuts. Busy.

29:28

Mom worth. It's a

29:30

common childhood game in Ancient

29:32

Rome. Ah, with she's nuts.

29:34

Like one would play marbles.

29:36

Ah guy. Are. And

29:38

it also means to cast off childish. Things

29:40

ah the to give up

29:42

the amounts. Here's.

29:45

some from august my tennessee dad used to

29:48

say i don't think i've heard these outside

29:50

of my family was wondering if they have

29:52

any history or if my dad to kind

29:54

of made him up a house there ain't

29:56

no get in the lead back on that

29:59

can of worms The

30:03

thing is, once you get a can of worms,

30:05

it's hard for me to be like, yeah, that's

30:08

common or not, because like, open up another can

30:10

of worms, it's like you're opening something you can't

30:13

like close again, right? Once it's open, we gotta dive

30:15

into it, we gotta deal with it. Yeah, the worms

30:17

are everywhere. The worms are everywhere. So there ain't no

30:19

lid, I think, is just another iteration

30:22

of open up another can of

30:24

worms, right? I think

30:26

so. Yeah. Probably,

30:28

I mean, because

30:30

like, once you open the

30:33

can of worms, you have a whole other problem

30:35

that leads to other problems, right? Yeah. You

30:37

opened it, and then the worms are everywhere, then I

30:39

mean, you couldn't put a lid back on it. I

30:42

think it's just an elaboration on that,

30:44

probably. Well, it's also two different, it's like

30:46

a bookend of you can either say, let's

30:48

not get into that can of worms, or

30:51

let's not open up that can of worms

30:53

before the thing happens. But once that big,

30:55

like, this is gonna be a big discussion

30:57

topic is introduced, then you'd say, well, there's

30:59

no getting a lead back on that can

31:02

of worms, right? One is before the event,

31:04

and the other one's after. How

31:07

about slicker than owl poop? Not

31:09

using poop, but the elitigous. Yeah,

31:12

no, slicker than animal feces of

31:14

different, I've heard. Yes, all kinds.

31:18

But here's the thing, right? I don't think it's usually owls,

31:20

though. Slicker than... I mean,

31:23

any kind of avian

31:25

poop is quite liquidy,

31:27

right? But owl, I thought pellets

31:29

were not liquidy. Well, they... Isn't

31:32

it bulls or something in the call where it's like the

31:35

chunks of stuff? Yeah, the pellets thing. Slicker than...

31:37

I'm trying to think of what I've heard, right?

31:41

And maybe it is like pigeon I've

31:43

heard. Maybe. But it's also hard because finer

31:46

than frog's hair gets stuck in my head

31:48

because frog's hair is still fine, it doesn't

31:50

exist, right? And it's finer than frog's hair.

31:53

So slick has a very

31:55

interesting etymology. It

31:57

was originally... I think I've just heard slicker than

31:59

feces. I don't think I often hear yeah. There

32:02

was originally a British phrase that meant

32:04

someone arrogance or potentially a con man.

32:06

Yeah, but in the nineteen thirties, slick

32:09

started actually been used for us. and

32:11

I'm for smooth and glossy in Chinese

32:13

or those are nice things. right?

32:15

I don't necessarily think those are two

32:17

different things. So oh yeah, I will,

32:20

because you couldn't very much zagreb slick

32:22

as like a veneer ray of light.

32:24

I'm not saying that they're not. I.

32:26

Think that they are connected right out of

32:28

it. We were just like if someone is

32:31

a con man right than they usually have

32:33

a slick suit. They have slick hair re

32:35

like this thing of. They appear

32:37

smooth and sign. Exactly right and so

32:40

I like. I've always connect the i've

32:42

never thought of this is to separate

32:44

concepts to be like all it slips

32:46

rise like it's cool right This very

32:48

impressed by of a like of a

32:50

cool trick businesses they how I would

32:52

use like odd slits way that the

32:54

cool trick. Not. Like oh,

32:56

you've learned math and flick right

32:59

everybody I would usually be like.

33:01

Related to something performative.

33:03

Really impressive. Okay now

33:06

what about the different

33:08

types of poops? So

33:10

we say like ball

33:12

soup horse says dog

33:14

poop rights to the

33:16

whole different connotations for

33:18

you for for example.

33:20

Ah, I'm. Alex said.

33:23

That. if you think about

33:25

if she. Thinks about air

33:27

ball poop is like bad

33:29

information right? Yeah, by. Ally

33:32

dog poop is like something

33:34

broken but maybe horse to

33:36

the something and reasonably mean

33:38

are. Cruel? Yeah I agree Like

33:40

advice, as if something bad habit me

33:42

or Zara Big. This is Horsburgh. You.

33:45

But I'm dealing with right now. This is

33:47

horse fibs. There's someone lied to me that

33:49

you're talking beaucoup. you have a bold move

33:51

as hell and said hey, you wanna buy

33:53

his car and I was over. Get on

33:55

my back Are that? Boom. Yeah,

33:57

as though the Isaiah. Before

34:00

I before she read wrote

34:02

that to me. I was like no it all seems kind

34:05

of the same But I think you

34:07

are correct that they do have different

34:09

connotations, and I don't know why Like

34:12

bird poop or owl

34:14

poop or like you

34:16

said pigeon poop feels slicker I

34:18

mean I guess they his this spreads out baby,

34:20

but it's like if one were to

34:23

step in poop That's

34:25

why I think I've always just heard slicker than Not

34:28

with an animal in there yeah, yeah, hmm

34:30

Can I also just think this conversation is

34:32

made me think it's a shame that we

34:34

don't teach profanity in public school? Because

34:38

there's a lot going on here. There is

34:40

a lot going on And

34:43

the fact that our children have to learn that at home. I

34:45

know Alex

34:48

is asking now specifically if people

34:51

would like to send in how

34:53

they view the world of other poops

34:56

like has anyone heard

34:58

as a Lie called

35:00

how does elephant poop or is

35:03

zebra poop a thing or whatever? So

35:07

am I dealing for us because bull

35:09

corn am I the only person says

35:11

horse apples and bull corn maybe this

35:13

bull corn Send those in you know

35:15

I just horse apples. I'm doing this

35:17

is horse apples my own He says

35:19

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