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Hello, Internet. I'm your husband host Travis

0:29

McElroy. And

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I'm your wife host, Teresa McElroy. And

0:32

you're listening to Shmanners. It's

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extraordinary etiquette. Ordinary

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occasions. Hold on, my love. Hello,

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dear. How are you? I

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think I'm fine.

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Yeah. Getting by getting

0:42

by getting by.

0:44

Yeah. I mean, the biggest thing for me is it's

0:46

that timing year again. Allergy

0:48

season. Oh, okay. I thought you're gonna say,

0:50

like, you know, the days we're

0:52

just counting the days until it's warm

0:54

or whatever. I don't know. With our jobs, I

0:56

was thinking about this because,

0:59

like, seasons mean nothing to

1:01

me other than the weather changing. I work from

1:03

home. Yeah. Yeah. I don't get

1:06

summer breaks. I don't get spring break.

1:08

Teachers are so

1:09

left. He they have it so

1:10

Oh my god. Don't you even? No. Of course.

1:12

Of course. course. course. I'm kidding. Of course, I'm kidding.

1:14

Of course, I'm kidding. But it

1:17

would be nice. No.

1:19

But there is that thing of just, like, the

1:21

one thing is, like, I know what day it

1:23

is based on what we're recording. Okay.

1:26

But it there are often

1:28

days where someone's like, what

1:30

are you doing this

1:31

weekend? And I'm like, well, what is today? And

1:33

I can't tell you.

1:36

And we were just this week, we're talking about retirement

1:38

parties.

1:39

Yes, we are. And before

1:40

we started, we were talking about for your dad's

1:42

second retirement. Yes. Because he

1:44

retired when I was in middle

1:46

school from the air force. Mhmm.

1:49

And then he got a civilian job

1:51

because he had to continue to make

1:53

money. To feed your children.

1:55

Well, we'll talk about that too in a second. But

1:58

And so he retired again

2:00

from his civilian job. And we gave him

2:02

very nice clock Like, one of the it's a

2:05

mental thing, which is a very traditional,

2:07

that and, like, watches and stuff. It's like a very

2:09

traditional thing, which you pointed out, and I

2:11

never really thought about. It's weird to be

2:12

like, hey. Now that you don't have anywhere to be

2:15

or anything to do. Right. So you know

2:17

what time it is? Yeah. Here's

2:19

this very fancy timepiece. To

2:21

tell you about what you used

2:23

to

2:23

do. It's kinda See, I thought you were going to say

2:25

it's kind of cruel because you're, like, think of all

2:27

the time you lost market.

2:30

Won't get that back. Here's the clock.

2:32

I don't know if I've seen that clock. What did he

2:34

do with it?

2:34

He probably burned it.

2:37

It was one of those ones that has like

2:39

glass case on it. And it I

2:40

think it's called, like, a retirement clock or an anniversary

2:43

clock. It has, like, this Like,

2:44

three mini things.

2:45

On the bottom, And it's like yeah. I think

2:47

it's called like an anniversary clock. My

2:49

mom also retired recently.

2:53

Just like, last

2:54

year. Right? Yeah. But once

2:55

again, I think it was more of, like, a second.

2:57

It was a second retirement because her

3:00

first career was as a nurse.

3:03

Where she was what

3:06

did it? A neonatal? She

3:09

was like a NICU.

3:10

A NICU nurse. Yeah. So

3:12

she retired ish from that, although

3:14

I do believe for a while she was keeping

3:17

her RN, which you can

3:19

do by continuing education and

3:21

and taking the the tests and stuff like

3:24

that. Just

3:24

once again, nurses have it so easily.

3:26

Oh my god. Don't even start. And then

3:28

she was a substitute teacher for a while

3:30

and then retired from that because teaching

3:32

is

3:33

hard. Well, I think the thing about

3:35

retirement parties that's interesting now is

3:37

I think they're probably a lot fewer

3:40

and far far or betweener. Because

3:44

it used to be so easy

3:46

to retire. And I think that

3:48

we see more and more these days of, like,

3:51

yeah, you were tired from your, like, your main

3:53

job that you did, you know, nine to five

3:55

for, like, forty five years or whatever. But

3:57

you do need to get another job as like

3:59

cashier at a supermarket or whatever because you

4:01

still have

4:02

to, like, pay bills and it still cost money

4:04

to do you think And I tell you, it has

4:06

never been easy to retire. What?

4:10

So let's define

4:12

it first.

4:13

Okay.

4:13

It's the practice of leaving one's job

4:16

or ceasing to work after reaching a certain

4:18

age. Okay.

4:20

You know, people have always done this because

4:22

eventually, you cannot move your

4:24

body enough to work. Okay.

4:27

Whether it's from old age

4:29

or disease or sickness or whatever

4:32

it

4:32

is. Right? Eventually, you cannot physically

4:36

work anymore. And it's time to get

4:38

uploaded to the matrix.

4:41

But starting back in the Roman

4:43

empire, the nation

4:45

states would provide pensions to those who had

4:48

served in the military, right, which makes

4:50

sense because military

4:52

service especially back then

4:55

was very physical. Right? And at some

4:57

point, you are not capable of

4:59

continuing your military career.

5:02

And the idea was they had

5:04

served their their country. And

5:06

so they received a pension Wow.

5:09

Can you imagine if we just, like, took care

5:11

of the people who did the job we don't wanna do

5:13

and, like, served their country. And

5:16

then after They were done working

5:18

for the country. The country was like, now let us

5:20

work for

5:21

you. Mhmm. Can you imagine? Can you

5:23

imagine? But other than

5:25

that, like, retiring wasn't really something

5:27

that people did, right,

5:29

especially the working class. Now

5:31

they're they're in the upper crusts

5:34

right of society. There was a time

5:36

where you transferred your assets,

5:39

maybe before you died. But

5:43

Other than that, like, if you asked

5:45

him an evil peasant about

5:46

retirement, they'd be like, what?

5:48

Yeah. They'd burn you with the say for for witchcraft.

5:51

Exactly

5:51

because you work on the farm every day and

5:53

until you don't because you're dead.

5:56

Yeah. So until the eighteenth

5:58

century, People didn't really

6:00

start talking about retirement as

6:02

an idea, and it wasn't even

6:04

government policy anywhere until

6:07

the nineteenth century. And so

6:10

there was someone in

6:12

government

6:13

who introduced the idea, Otto

6:15

Von Bismarck.

6:16

Oh, wait. I've heard about him. He was a conservative

6:19

minister president of Prussia, and

6:22

he presented this as kind of

6:24

a radical idea at the time. Like,

6:27

radical. I mean, kind of.

6:29

He proposed that the government should run

6:32

a financial support program for older

6:34

members of society. Which

6:36

is a little bit like social security these

6:39

days. Right? Yeah. But social

6:41

security, first of all, don't get me started

6:44

because that is your money. Right?

6:46

You in Social

6:47

Security, you you contribute from

6:49

your paycheck.

6:51

Yeah. You're investing in your retirement.

6:53

And then you get that money back. When

6:55

you can't work anymore? Hypothetically. Yes. Hypothetically.

6:58

So his claim was, those

7:02

who are disabled from work by age and

7:04

invalidity have a well grounded

7:06

claim to care from the state, which

7:09

was radical at the time especially considering

7:13

that he was

7:16

a conservative leader. Right?

7:18

Which isn't, you know, isn't renowned

7:20

for social programs. He

7:23

was his nickname was the iron

7:25

chancellor. Man, I wish

7:27

I could have a nickname to talk about how, like,

7:29

cool and hard ass I guys. It's

7:32

like the iron podcast that We

7:34

say that on this film. But, like, the iron podcast

7:36

that I would take or even just, like,

7:38

the thick cardboard podcaster.

7:41

Like, thick cardboard with rough edges

7:43

podcaster. So he seems like

7:46

an unlikely candidate. Right? But

7:48

playing in the space with me. Hey. Playing in

7:50

the same what would you wanna what kind would

7:52

you wanna

7:52

be? One space. One space.

7:55

That heavy duty. Think this is. My

7:57

brother my brother is the heavy duty

7:59

aluminum foil podcaster. You

8:03

could be, like, the four ply toilet

8:05

paper podcaster

8:06

real tough stuff

8:07

over here. Real tough stuff tough

8:09

and soft. Yeah. That's

8:11

too soft and strong. You're you're a

8:13

ten ply toilet paper, babe. You

8:16

got ripples and patterns. Hey, why did you

8:18

tell our kids that I don't like pattern toilet

8:20

paper? Because

8:21

you told me that at some point. Did

8:23

I yes. I don't remember this.

8:25

Okay. When you're

8:26

we've been having this fight for weeks. It's not even

8:29

a fight. For me now, it's more of a philosophical

8:31

rumination. Because when you

8:33

have kids, you try teaching things. And it

8:35

it always goes in one year and out the other. But

8:37

there will be things that your kids are like, I've decided

8:39

to latch onto this. It's so very

8:42

like, when you see vines crawling up a wall. You're

8:44

like, how are you hanging out of that wall? That's

8:46

my children

8:46

with, like, daddy, why don't you like parents on toilet paper?

8:49

And I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't remember saying that.

8:51

You told me at some

8:52

point that you didn't like the embossed toilet

8:55

paper, that you didn't mind if it was

8:57

like completely flat or if it had

8:59

like ripples whatever

9:01

Sure. I mean

9:02

But you didn't like the embossed kind.

9:04

Oh, sometimes I say things like the rock

9:06

hard opinions that I have, but it's

9:08

really just a fleeting thought in that moment that I have

9:10

no commitment

9:11

whatsoever.

9:11

Well, when I have two children in the cart

9:13

with me at Kroger -- Yeah. --

9:15

and I say, which toilet paper should we get?

9:17

And they say, the one with flowers,

9:20

and I go, I don't think that's

9:22

the one that your dad

9:23

likes, and they go, oh, whoa.

9:25

Yeah. Meanwhile, they're like, I'm gonna eat

9:27

these toys. And you're like, what? Can

9:29

you can remember the thing about toilet

9:30

paper? Okay. They don't eat toys anymore. Well,

9:33

they're not good. Well, Okay.

9:37

So bismarck. In

9:40

fact, suggested this

9:42

social program

9:44

because he was under immense pressure

9:47

from his socialist opponents at the time.

9:49

Right. Pressure. Yes.

9:52

Because he's from pressure. I was like,

9:54

Prashanth. I got it. I got Prashanth.

9:57

And so he would do

9:59

this to kind

10:00

of, like, bolster the working class

10:03

Yeah, man. And make

10:04

himself look good.

10:05

Yeah.

10:05

That. Right? Hey,

10:06

you know who you really need on board if you wanna

10:08

win elections and stuff? The working class.

10:10

Yeah. So it would take eight years,

10:12

but by the end of the eighteen eighties, the German

10:15

government would create a retirement system that

10:17

provided benefits to citizens over

10:19

the age of seventy. Oh, man.

10:21

He's in eighties. I would not have guessed that early.

10:24

But -- But -- But -- --

10:26

their retirement age just so

10:28

happened to align with the average

10:30

life expectancy at the

10:32

time. Sure. Sure. Sure. So

10:34

even with these benefits people

10:36

usually continued to work until

10:38

they died if they were able. Right?

10:40

Uh-huh. And it's also worth noting

10:43

that the participation in the retirement system

10:45

was mandatory and contributions toward

10:48

these retirement and disability benefits came

10:50

from the employee, the employer, and

10:52

the government. Right? So just like our Social

10:55

Security programs

10:56

today, it's not free

10:57

money. No. It was just another

10:59

thing America shares with eighteen eighties

11:01

Russia.

11:02

I opposed at german school.

11:03

Prussia. Shit. Yeah. That one. Yeah.

11:07

Then the the idea

11:09

of retirement started

11:12

spreading, and the United States

11:14

had already test run this idea starting

11:16

in the mid eighteen hundreds. Certain

11:19

municipal employees like firefighters

11:22

and cops and teachers began

11:24

receiving public pensions but

11:26

really only if you lived in a big

11:28

city. Right? It

11:30

was a start. And so by eighteen

11:33

seventy five, the American Express Company

11:35

began offering private pensions to

11:37

their workers. And by the nineteen twenties,

11:40

a variety of other industries

11:43

like railroads and banking and

11:45

other things were promising their workers something

11:48

of the sort of retirement benefits

11:51

once they aged out of their own workforce.

11:53

Okay. I can't wait to learn

11:55

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11:57

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15:26

So the thing about this,

15:28

right? And I mentioned that at the time

15:31

of its inception, seventy

15:35

was considered the retirement age. Yes.

15:37

But but why? Again, why?

15:39

One would hope that the

15:42

age would be of an

15:44

age where one could actually enjoy

15:46

the benefit. Well, you would have a retirement

15:49

without staring in

15:51

mortality in the face. Right?

15:54

In mortality

15:55

or mortality? Mortality. Okay. Either

15:57

one of those is a bummer though. But immortality

15:59

seems like a good thing, but it would just breed

16:01

any story where someone becomes immortal and they're

16:03

always

16:04

like, sigh. This is now incredibly boring.

16:06

So most pension programs

16:10

said age sixty five, which

16:13

had less to do with health and

16:15

medical information and more to do with

16:17

economics. There

16:20

was a little bit of research at the time

16:23

documenting a mental decline

16:25

around age sixty and

16:28

conventional wisdom at the time

16:30

held that by sixty A man

16:32

had done his work and should step aside

16:34

to let the younger generation

16:37

take take hold.

16:38

Unless they're a podcast or which way it's forty.

16:41

Max.

16:43

Max.

16:43

After that

16:44

Or because the

16:45

mental decline.

16:46

The mental decline, you're just not as good

16:48

and as bet in esports, it's twenty five.

16:50

At twenty five, you're over the hill.

16:53

YouTube, I believe it's thirty one. You're

16:55

over the hill. It's rough. Rough stuff

16:57

out here for content creators.

16:59

Eventually, the United States

17:01

agreed on sixty five, and

17:04

the Social Security Act was passed

17:07

in nineteen thirty five, listing sixty

17:09

five as the official retirement

17:12

age. Which

17:14

again is interesting because at the time

17:16

fifty eight years old was considered the

17:19

American Life

17:20

expectancy. Yeah. But they've talked about it on

17:22

the sawburn. So I think we've talked about it here too.

17:24

We're when you're talking about average life is

17:26

expectancy.

17:27

Right. Infant mortality. Definitely

17:29

factors in. But again,

17:32

retirement kind of implies

17:35

that you have a little while to enjoy

17:37

the fruits of your lay

17:38

her. Right? Instead of continuing to toil.

17:40

But I I mean, as the person who likes their

17:42

job, I would also see where someone

17:45

would be like, I don't want I would rather not

17:47

retire. Thank you very much. I enjoy my job.

17:49

I don't know. I see it both way. That I don't

17:51

think anyone should have to work longer than they

17:53

need to to make enough money to live.

17:56

But I also think that no one should be

17:58

forced out of their job due to age

18:00

because that's also not cool. Okay.

18:03

Alright. I mean Are you saying that, please

18:04

don't fire me because I'm gonna turn forty.

18:07

I'm really worried.

18:09

I am not in charge of hiring. So you're

18:11

safe. That wasn't a no. That wasn't

18:13

that was like, hey, it's not my don't know what

18:15

to tell you, man, not my

18:16

job. I

18:17

wouldn't wanna replace you. So Thank

18:20

you.

18:21

I think.

18:21

Yeah. Once

18:21

again, now I was emphatic because I would've would

18:24

never I don't want to currently replace

18:26

it. I

18:29

I don't don't know where to go from here. On there.

18:31

But so the idea,

18:33

I think, of throwing a party

18:36

is any excuse to throw a party. Mhmm.

18:39

And so now it is commonplace that

18:42

when people retire, even if they move

18:44

on to a second career, another

18:46

job, grocery, bagging

18:48

at the at the grocery store, any of

18:50

that. Right? Whether or not they continue

18:53

to earn money is irrelevant.

18:55

Once you leave a job, it

18:58

is customary these days to

19:00

have a retirement party. Okay. Like

19:03

we said, we've been to both

19:05

both my parents retirement

19:06

parties. Might that

19:07

retired, but it was not like a

19:10

fun retirement.

19:10

Yeah. It was a very quiet. Thing.

19:13

He got pushed out of his job by

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some virus. Well, it's it's

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I don't need to order a job where I'm not appreciated

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19:36

he was able to retire quit,

19:38

I guess, would be the way to look at it

19:40

and and just come work on adventures

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on full

19:43

time, which is one of the reasons the graphic

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19:47

listeners. And then at

19:49

my mom's retirement, it

19:51

was a bunch of teachers that retired at the

19:54

same time. Her let's

19:57

see, it was herself and a couple of

19:59

other substitute teachers, but

20:01

also one of my teachers

20:04

that I had when I was younger who was

20:06

still working, but also retired

20:08

at her retirement party. It was wild.

20:12

Because I didn't I've talked about this before.

20:14

I didn't know what to call her. Do you call them

20:16

by their last name? Because they were

20:18

-- Just teach them how deeply. -- or do

20:20

you or do you you call them

20:22

by their first name? Because you're I'm

20:25

high up

20:25

here. I would have to teach her now.

20:27

If you don't have reached retirement an age as

20:29

a teacher, you're probably more used

20:31

to answering to your last

20:33

name with some kind of, like, suffix

20:36

or thing before it. Than you are answering

20:38

your first name. Right? You would spend eight

20:40

hours a

20:41

day, five days a week being called, like,

20:43

missus McElroy.

20:44

She doesn't listen to this. So

20:47

my

20:47

I you know. I mean, because my

20:49

teacher, missus Burnett, I was like,

20:52

I don't know. Get missus

20:53

Burnett, And her

20:55

You could say, hey, teach. Her name is Celine.

20:57

Her name is Celine. And

21:00

I was like, there's no way I can call someone

21:02

Celine. I don't

21:04

deserve it.

21:06

Wow. I think that's a there's a lot to

21:08

dive into it.

21:08

There's lot to dive into it anyway. What

21:11

did we give my mom for her retirement?

21:13

Grandkids. Oh. No. I don't

21:15

I don't know. No. I think that we gave her

21:18

a very heartfelt card.

21:20

We gave her something. And I

21:23

it was, like, a gift certificate. And a gift certificate?

21:25

No. It was. It was. Like a spa day

21:27

gift certificate? Yes. Yes. In the spa day give

21:29

certificate. Which, many ways? Biren

21:32

a clock.

21:32

I I think so too. I think we really did

21:34

did a better job with her. Clock feels

21:37

more appropriate, but

21:40

only on the surface. Only on the

21:41

surface.

21:42

Okay. So if you Give me a wacky

21:44

clock or, like, explains backwards and says it's

21:46

five o'clock somewhere on it, that's a

21:48

fitting retirement

21:49

party. I mean, there there is there

21:51

is a a place for that, I think. If

21:54

you are throwing or

21:56

attending a retirement party,

21:58

do try and figure out the dress code. Right? Because

22:01

a lot of these parties are often thrown

22:03

at work. Right? And if you work in an office

22:05

space, normally, you

22:07

would just wear clothes that you would normally wear to an

22:09

office. But if it's a more casual thing.

22:11

Like, my mom's took place at a at

22:13

a -- Brewery. --

22:14

brewery. But

22:15

your dad's was like a fancy restaurant. Yes.

22:17

It's the vibe. Yeah. Right. So figure

22:19

that out. And because,

22:22

you know, it'll probably be pretty obvious

22:24

on the invitation, where it takes place and what

22:26

you should wear. But it still

22:28

goes to show that you should not

22:31

show up at the party ready to talk

22:33

smack about your work. Or the retiring

22:36

coworker. Right? Because it is

22:38

it's not within the culture of

22:41

leaving work to, like, RAS

22:44

the person leaving. Right? Thank

22:46

gosh, you're leaving. That kind of

22:47

stuff. Right?

22:48

I mean, unless once again it's specific

22:50

Lee. Like, we're doing a roast of old

22:52

Tom or whatever like Right. But that's a specific

22:54

thing. Yeah. Don't assume that just because

22:56

Tom is hiring that you get to roast

22:59

him.

22:59

Yes. Or

22:59

that you get to roast your boss. Right.

23:03

And that is something that

23:05

you can ask the person

23:06

retiring. If that's what we

23:08

needed to like. Can I make fun of you?

23:12

Maybe they have an idea in their

23:14

mind of of what they would prefer if they wanted

23:16

at fancy restaurant, if they want it in somebody's

23:19

backyard, if they want it at the office, you

23:21

know.

23:21

No. They wanna be belittled. At four o'clock

23:23

on a Friday, and they just rather walking

23:25

out into the sunset, never talking to anybody

23:28

ever again. And

23:30

try not to use it as a time to

23:32

network because it's not the time. Right?

23:34

We are celebrating a person and their contributions.

23:38

And so, you

23:39

know, find another time to Rebekah's

23:42

and Hop knob with the boss. And

23:45

a retirement gift is

23:49

appropriate? Encouraged.

23:52

Is customary. We

23:54

got that. No. Maybe

23:57

it's me.

23:58

It's me? Hi.

24:01

Okay. So

24:03

if you like we said,

24:06

you could tailor it to the person

24:08

leaving or if

24:10

you want to do like a group gift,

24:13

getting together with the rest of your coworkers

24:15

for that. We gave my

24:17

mom the the spa day gift card,

24:20

but you could easily distribute that

24:22

expense amongst the co

24:24

workers. I would say that the thing if

24:27

it is a professional gift like the office

24:29

got together and got you this or the business got

24:31

together and got you this. Right? Mhmm. think

24:33

if that's the case, it needs to be reflective of

24:36

that level

24:37

where it is like a really nice

24:39

watch with engraved backing

24:42

or something. Right?

24:42

Right. I don't think it should be like, hey, you've been working

24:44

here, you know, for you worked here

24:46

for forty five years. It's a two hundred percent

24:49

company. We all chipped in and got

24:51

you this twenty five dollar gas card for

24:53

like, that's not yeah.

24:55

Quite up to the level of, like,

24:58

what that moment feels like, you know,

25:00

mean. Mhmm. So I think that you

25:02

want to think of it in terms of, like, does

25:05

this reflect how much we

25:06

appreciate, you know, sometimes decades

25:09

of work that this person put into this company.

25:11

Which means that also if it's a very

25:14

small office, like maybe there's four

25:16

or five of

25:16

you, sometimes just a really heartfelt

25:19

card signed by everyone. Right. Or like

25:21

a smart photo if you have one of those. Something

25:23

because I think the two ways you can go is like, oh my

25:25

god, this is so nice.

25:27

Or sentiment. Or this

25:29

is so thoughtful. Right? Right. Yeah. Exactly.

25:32

So also, make

25:35

sure that everyone from the

25:37

workplace is invited. Obviously,

25:40

they don't have to show up even if it's if it's

25:42

like after hours, if it's from somewhere

25:44

else, but you don't want to single

25:46

out someone by leaving them out

25:48

because that only makes

25:50

the rest of the the office

25:52

time together awkward. Right? Here's

25:54

a good okay. Think of gifts. Right?

25:56

You could get them like a thousand dollar

25:58

watch. Right? Okay. Great.

26:00

Cool. Maybe they love that. I don't know. But if

26:03

it's like, oh, this guy loves fishing. We know during

26:05

his

26:05

retirement, he's gonna go fishing.

26:06

Great idea. You've got him, like, a really

26:09

nice, like, seventy five dollar tackle box or

26:11

something. It's like, yeah, that's gonna probably mean

26:13

more to him -- Mhmm. -- than a thousand dollar watch.

26:15

Whatever. Right? So I think that that is

26:18

more the goal than just like we spend a ton of

26:20

money on

26:20

this. And whenever you think about gifts, the

26:22

more it can be specific to the person and

26:24

better.

26:25

Right. It is also customary

26:28

for a speech to be gay. That

26:29

said, I would love a thousand dollar watch and I would talk

26:31

from podcasting. I'm just saying, I don't know.

26:34

I'm a material girl. It

26:36

is customary for a speech. To be

26:39

given either by the retiree or

26:41

by someone who is very who

26:43

worked very closely with them kind of like a

26:45

toast. Yeah. Right? But if you are retiring.

26:48

Not a roast. Not a roast. If you are retiring

26:50

and you would like to give that speech, you're

26:53

you're more than welcome to let the people

26:55

who who you've worked with, let them

26:57

know how special your time has been

26:59

there. And if you wanna use that time to tell

27:01

everybody off, wait till after you get the watch.

27:03

Get the watch first. And then

27:06

go on a tirade and then say peace

27:08

out, throw them, like, put on the ground, walk it in

27:10

the sunset and never talk to anybody that's

27:12

your prerogative, but it's not

27:14

Do it after you get the watch, I can't stress

27:16

this enough.

27:17

It's not too. Sure.

27:19

K? To brag about how happy you'll be working.

27:21

didn't say brag. It's not about brag about happy.

27:23

It's just like, I didn't I never said forty five years

27:25

and never said this. You all can

27:27

take a

27:28

hike, and then you say, no, I'm gonna go take

27:30

a hike, but really, because I'm retired by e.

27:32

And this is an event that

27:34

one would want to send. Thank you notes. For.

27:38

Hard to do that after the speech I just gave.

27:40

Yeah. Exactly. Okay. If

27:42

it is a group gift, a group thank you.

27:45

Addressed to the office is perfectly

27:47

acceptable. Yeah. With a picture of you sitting in

27:49

my thighs on the bench while they're working.

27:52

I suppose.

27:53

So that let's retire from this episode.

27:55

Okay.

27:56

But not the show, please. Not

27:57

No. We're not we're not retiring. We're still

27:59

doing the show, please. Don't. Please don't. We have

28:01

to feed our children. Please. But

28:04

we don't have to feed you. I don't know what

28:06

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28:08

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28:11

I I panicked, and I said that we don't have

28:13

to feed you. And I'm sorry. But

28:15

our graphic novel, the Venture Zone graphic novel,

28:18

book five, The eleventh hour came

28:20

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28:22

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28:24

You can go get it wherever fine

28:26

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28:29

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28:31

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28:33

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28:34

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28:37

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28:38

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28:41

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