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Hello,
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welcome to Shortcuts. I'm JC Long and
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you're listening to a spooky episode
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recorded on location
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by the sea at Craig
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Tower spooky caravan
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park.
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I'm at a caravan park in
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Ayrshire on the west coast
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of Scotland. The
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wind around me is
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so strong it goes whoo
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as if a person's calling out to us.
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We're right by the sea and
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I'm going to walk down to the beach. Yesterday
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when me and my daughters went there we
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saw washed up the biggest
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jellyfish I've ever seen. Bigger
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than... This
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is Shortcuts. Bigger than a football.
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Brief encounters. Bigger than a
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round coffee table. True stories. As large
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as a small rug. Radio
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adventures. It was massive. And
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fabulous. sound, sound, frightful
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today. What's that? Creature
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feature. I want to see.
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If I can see any other creatures. Her
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skin sort of grows over his face, and
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what sort of eyes and senses he had will
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just get obscured. And then he
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just really just becomes like a part of her
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after that. If Satan
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were an insect, he'd be a cave
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cricket.
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Let us begin with
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a story that emerges
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from the deep, thousands
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of meters below the surface. You're
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entering a dark room, lined
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with hundreds of jars. Chains
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hang from the ceiling. There
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are rows of ten-foot-long metal
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tanks dividing the room, sealed
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cardboard boxes everywhere,
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and the faint smell of spirit peer
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into the gloom to come
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face to face with a creature
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that is rarely seen.
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It's an amazing feeling, thinking that what I'm
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doing must still be
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around hundreds of years after I'm dead. And
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that every time I write a note or make
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a comment about something, I have to think
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about the people in the future who
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will be reading that note and fully understand
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what I'm talking about, because I occasionally
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find things that Victorians have written and I haven't got
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a clue what they're talking about, and I kind of hate them.
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So that has made me very conscientious
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about the people who are going to come after me. Some
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of these jars are well over a meter tall. There's
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probably over a million
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tons of meters in time. Dark
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build platter pettas and echidnas. And occasionally,
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And you see animals within animals within animals.
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I think that's Charles Darwin's handwriting. We
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have a young hippo
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there, an otter. I mean, some of the jars you
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can see here probably haven't been opened in Corpus.
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Maybe even 100 years. There was a horse
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in one of those tanks over there. We've got some
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iguanas and burros. This
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one has two great white sharks in it. Don't
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know why the lobster's there. I have to ask,
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what is in there? A giant squid
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and part of a colossal squid. They
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don't smell good, I can assure you. This snake
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here is a king cobra. And
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this was actually used as a prop in
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a Tom Cruise film. And these are
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Chinese paddlefish. And
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these are now believed to have been completely...
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You can open this tent, if you like.
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Extinct. So
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this is a very rare kind of black
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tip shark. And this
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was put into preservative.
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And then it was brought into the country in somebody's suitcase.
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And you can burp this sometimes, it'll get
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there, isn't it? And now it's in this curled
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up shape forevermore. It's
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like a library. Some
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animals are just a delight
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to preserve. But if it's a very
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weird shape thing, then you have
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to curl it up and then force
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it into the jar. And sometimes you just don't have
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the right size of jar. Like we have a very miserable
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shark over there, which is the skin
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of a shark. And they've taken its backbone
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out and they've just kind of scrunched it into
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the jar.
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The deeper you go, the sort of weirder
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things get. It's
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very odd looking. It
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doesn't at first glance look like a fish.
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The sea devil is more the American name
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for them, and then the British name tends to
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be anglerfish. It's
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very kind of knobbly and it's covered
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in little spines. The
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tail doesn't have the sort of webbing that
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a lot of fish fins typically have. It
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almost looks like a sort of hand with long
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tendrils coming out of it.
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It doesn't have very big eyes. The eyes are almost
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invisible because it doesn't really need
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eyes. It has a glowing
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lure on the top of its head. That's how
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it catches its food. It sort
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of sits down in the dark and moves its lure
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around. And
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then this huge big mouth has
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lots and lots of needle shaped backwards
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pointing teeth. And some of them also have
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quite big sharp teeth
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in the back of their throat as well. So
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you'll have one set of teeth in
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the jaw sort of grab you and then
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you get sort of fed back and then the teeth in
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the throat will kind of grip you. But
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there are actually two in here. So
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the big meet along one is
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the female and on
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her underside there's this very
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weird
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looks at the strange mythology
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that's grown up around the critter in the mid-Atlantic
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United States, one
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who's often found in the gloom of burnt basements.
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Radio producer Jesse Dukes has long
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been fascinated by the horror stories that
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surround them. If you don't
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know what a greenhouse camel cricket looks
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like, and you're not arachnophobic,
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may I encourage you to look them up? I've
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looked them up. It's terrifying.
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They look like a monster created
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in a lab, specifically
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to scare human beings. Like
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all good horror stories, this one
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begins with a move to a new house.
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The first voice you're going to hear is
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Jesse's friend, Emma.
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The first time I saw one was
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when it was in our new apartment in
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Belmont, and we were
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in the process of moving in. So the
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rooms were mostly empty.
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I think I was just there before
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all the furniture was there, just looking around. I remember
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seeing something in one of the rooms and
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not understanding what it was.
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I got
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closer and closer to it, and it
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was that kind of thing where your brain is trying to catch
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up with what you're looking at. I
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was like, is that a
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spider?
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And it was just like this horrible thing
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with these legs kind
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of spiking
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up around it and this
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stripey, humped
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back that just made me want to
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end it all right there.
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The creature in Emma's home was
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a greenhouse camel cricket, the
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Estramena a Sinemora. She
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was right smack dab in the middle
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of the region where they've become very common
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in basements and damp, dim places.
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Many people, including me, find them
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creepy looking. Some people call
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them cave crickets. Some call them spider
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crickets because of their long legs that
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spread all around their body. And
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they are infamous.
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Spider crickets are creepy and not
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scared of it. There's
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a lot of camel crickets that horrify me. It's
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very cool. If you were an insect,
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he'd be a cave cricket. It
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seems like greenhouse camel crickets give people
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what writer Jeffrey Jerome Cohen calls
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a category crisis. The
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brain doesn't know if it's seeing a cricket
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or a spider. And somehow that confusion
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makes it even scarier to people.
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And there's something that they do that most people
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talk about.
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And then
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the worst thing happened, which is that
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it jumped at me. And
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it chased me down the hallway. It
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actually chased me down the hallway. It was like
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hopping after me.
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I've seen them do this. I mean, maybe
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not chase me, but leap right
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at my face. It's creepy.
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And Emma and I aren't alone in this. The
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internet is full of cricket jumping
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stories. First one I saw was in my living
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room. The thing was perfectly still.
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Yes, harmless, but still freaky. It
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jumped right at you. It jumped
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directly towards me. And hit
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my leg. And I went and I was breathing. They
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uncoiled their back legs. And
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started to come across. Larger
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size. Jump at people.
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Jump at people.
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Now, for the record, camel crickets are hurt.
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They don't bite. They don't sting.
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So why do they leap at us? It's
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easy to squish them. Well,
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Jesse, I was responding to
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the fact that you were convinced that camel
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crickets jumped at
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your face. Undoubtedly. That was
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their strategy. And to
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me, that seemed suspicious. My
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friend Ben studies insects. He's
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an entomologist. Well, after thinking about
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it...
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and seeing how alarmed you were about the fact
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that it was like, oh, they're going after my face,
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they're going after my face. I wasn't alarmed. I was fascinated.
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I thought, well, that might be a startle
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strategy,
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that if there's a predator coming close, having
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an unpredictable and possibly towards
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the predator, which would be completely unpredicted
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by a predator, naturally
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you would expect it to go, oh, there's this
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big being and go the opposite
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direction. But no,
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it'll go ping, ping,
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left, right, maybe kind
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of forward, maybe towards
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my face, but it's
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really unpredictable. It would be
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enough for them to evade and
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to have that moment where the
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predator would pause and then they
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get away. And what made you think
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of the startle hypothesis? Because
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I've been startled by it. I mean,
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obviously.
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Ben's a scientist and he's
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suspicious about the face-sleeping idea.
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So I asked him, how could we settle
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this once and for all? How
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would we do an experiment to test whether chemo-crickets
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leap at the source of danger?
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Okay, what I would do is I would look for a
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really humid basement with a lot
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of cardboard boxes and debris and
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one that people haven't gone into for a long
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time. I'm just free-forming
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here, but what I would like to do is
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maybe make a mask of
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a face like a Jesse Duke's
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mask and have it on a
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stick or something and then to
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put that face out there and then see
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the reaction and then do it again and do it again.
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But you see, I don't have that desire to
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actually prove this because I don't believe it's true. You don't
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believe this is true, so you're not interested in doing
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this? Oh no, you know what? Don't
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you think that the possibility of insects engaged?
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in behavior to start or predators
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would be an important
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breakthrough in our understanding of insects in
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general that was focused on the
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fact that on the original your original
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print premise was that they come at your face
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i don't really think become at your face i do think it's
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possible they come at the
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predator that we only have certain
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amount ben actually seems can a hostile
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to this idea i thought scientists
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were supposed to be curious burnham guess
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not i later talked with
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one of his entomologists colleagues gay
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williams she
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works for the state of maryland predator
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as a kind of evolutionary
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advantage
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mechanism yeah yeah
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i would have to say who we
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see also didn't like gambling
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and she knows kimmel crickets but she
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thinks they jump in random directions
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when a person startles them
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they're not trying to get the and
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what's the benefit if of if radek
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said it's what's the benefit of rabbits
16:55
leaving it the wolves we talked about this
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for a long time and after
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a while i think i figured out why she doesn't
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like the bluffing theory both
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gay williams and ben study bugs
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they find them fascinating and admirable
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and they know that people have irrational
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fears of bugs or
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have a friend very good friend
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who like to shoot them
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with a bb gun in his garage
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and i said scott they're
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not coming after you they're not gonna do
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anything people if you
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have a sort of baseline they're
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coming to get me that usually
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means that the raid comes out the
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fog the house there's drinking
17:36
lamps trying to kill i'm so that's
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why i try to really point out
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the people that these are totally
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innocuous
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so for the scientists this
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idea that kimmel cricket sleep at people
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is a dangerous miss and
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if people believe dismiss they're
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going to be more likely to kill them in
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some nasty way so
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finally most out is to get
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a huge bottle of raid that
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you could spray it from a really
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far distance and it had a really targeted
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spray. So basically you just had
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this can of raid a close up
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time and then when I saw one
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I would back away from it as far as I
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can and hopefully I'd have that can and then I would
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just rain raid down
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on it
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from a distance.
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I mean this is horrible, it
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was horrible because not only did our house
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smell like raid but also like
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it's horrible to kill an insect. I mean
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it feels bad you know because you
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immediately go from being like insanely
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terrified to feeling like I am a total
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doofus who just killed this poor bug
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in probably a way that was pretty unpleasant
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for them because I was too scared to
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go up to it and do the like jar
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and paper envelope
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thing where you just throw it outside but the reason that I
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was too scared to do that is because I was
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afraid it was going to jump on me because that's what they do. I guess
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it's like a defense mechanism or something you know
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they they will jump
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at you.
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The possibility that camel crickets
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are bluffing us doesn't actually
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horrify me. I
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find it fascinating the idea
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that a tiny creature completely
19:28
harmless can scare something that is a thousand
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times bigger it would be like
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if I could terrify a dragon just
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by leaping at it and making a scary
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face. Unlike my spoilsport
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friend Ben I believe
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it's true and it makes me admire
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the camel crickets. When
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I have a scary thing I need to do ask
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for a raise ask somebody argue
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about a bill negotiate with a roommate about
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the missing rent. I imagine
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myself as a camel cricket leaping
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towards the thing that terrified me. me. Mandibles
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extruded, legs akimbo. And
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it helps. And now when
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I see a camel cricket, I get
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excited. Are they going to leap? Which
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way? They don't scare me
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anymore. Fascination
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can replace fear.
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Hold on.
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They are terrible
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and no one likes them. No one
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cares about them. And
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no one
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wishes them the best. But
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you just have to live with them.
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And also they don't bite or sting. And
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even if worst case scenario one
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of them gets on you, I have been through that. Well
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actually that wasn't quite true. The
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worst thing that happened though is that one
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time I
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was in
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my bed and I
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sensed, I just
20:57
with like a sixth sense
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but not like I see dead people.
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A different sixth sense. A seventh
21:06
sense. I turned my
21:09
head and there was one on my pillow.
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The same pillow that my
21:13
head had just been on. And
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so I proceeded to absolutely
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go ballistic and like
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scream
21:21
my head off. But
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anyway that was the worst thing that had happened
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in terms of the camel crickets to have one so close
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to me. And you know it might have been on my head
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and gotten off my head and onto the pillow for
21:33
all I know. But I guess my
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advice would be to
21:38
just accept them. They are
21:41
harmless
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and just
21:45
try to get on with your life. That
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was Made For Us by Jesse Giggs. Thanks
21:57
to Emma Rustbone, Gay Williams,
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Ben
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shelter
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five feet lower than the roof I normally perched
24:02
on and I treated them very
24:05
poorly. I need to win their trust to begin
24:07
with or win their trust back because
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you know I think we as a species
24:12
have lost it.
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Then I started to notice pigeons in
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human art, in books, in paintings,
24:20
in movies. I think it was while I was watching
24:23
Home Alone 2 when I really began to pay attention.
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I realised we talk about pigeons really
24:28
quite a lot and we're doing all
24:30
this talking behind their backs. So
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I decided to do something about it. I
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began to make notes whenever I came across pigeons
24:38
in art and I go out
24:40
now and look for pigeons
24:43
and I tell them
24:44
what we've been saying. Okay
24:47
so from Mary Poppins which is 1964
24:51
where Jane Darwell plays the character it's
24:53
called The Bird Woman and
24:56
The Bird Woman sings the song about feed the birds.
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It's a positive presentation of pigeons because
25:02
she's inviting people to help the pigeons
25:04
to feed the pigeons but on the other hand the pigeons
25:07
are treated as pitiable creatures they
25:09
can't look after themselves they need intervention
25:12
and she is a social outcast that's very clear
25:14
like she's both feared and also overcoming
25:17
the fear you go towards. Home Alone 2 Brenda
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Fricker plays the character of I think
25:22
the pigeon lady. Now she feeds the pigeons off
25:24
that's what she does she's covered in pigeons when I first see her
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and Kevin is terrified of her. And the pigeons
25:29
never get
25:29
redeemed she gets redeemed. The pigeons don't.
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We still think well
25:34
she's mad because she likes the pigeons and she wants
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to feed the pigeons. Oh there's some pigeons, the ducks
25:38
seem to be coming up against the pigeons. I
25:41
just want no interest. When
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I find pigeons represented in human art
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I ask three questions. The first, what
25:48
is this art using pigeons to say?
25:51
To film Anguish which is originally
25:53
Angustia there's a pigeon right at the
25:55
beginning of it who's kept in a cage by
25:58
the mother and father. There What
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is this art saying about pigeons?
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A pigeon sat on a branch contemplating existence. That
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opens with dead pigeons stuffed on a branch,
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sadly. But there's this kind of idea, there's
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lots of static film shots and it kind of feels like
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you're seeing things through maybe a pigeon
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sat on a branch's point of view. So
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could lead to identification with a pigeon. And
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finally,
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what is this art saying to pigeons?
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That is,
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what does this tell pigeons about
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us?
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I might tell this pigeon about memes. Actually,
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I think there's hope in memes. I'll
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send a pigeon meme this morning, which
26:38
I can show to the pigeon. There we are. See,
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I think it's a screen
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grab from TikTok, very close up on
26:46
somebody's face. And
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over it is written, My Roman Empire
26:51
is that pigeons were domesticated by humans 10,000 years
26:53
ago, only to be suddenly abandoned
26:56
and deemed dirty and now can barely build
26:58
their own nests because they don't know how and
27:00
live around humans because that's all they know. The
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Roman Empire thing, that's quite hard to explain. There's
27:06
basically a meme being going round of men being
27:08
asked by their wives, how often do you think about
27:11
the Roman Empire and the men saying every day? I
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don't know how that became the whole thing, but it is a whole thing. So
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now my Roman Empire has become a shorthand for
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my obsession with something, which
27:20
is pigeons in this case. I found out
27:22
recently that humans domesticated pigeons
27:25
between 5,000 and 10,000 years ago, and
27:28
then for some reason or other,
27:30
we decided we didn't like them anymore.
27:32
We threw them out.
27:33
The pigeons you see on the street, they're feral
27:35
domesticated pigeons.
27:37
We took them in,
27:39
we earned their trust, and
27:41
then we betrayed it. It's just sort of walking
27:44
away. That is... Oh,
27:47
it's turning round. Is this feedback? It's
27:50
hard to load.
27:52
Is it coming to walk? Yeah,
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this is the problem.
27:55
I can't really read the pigeons'
27:57
body language enough to know what the feedback is. I
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don't think that looks like I'm being pretty
28:04
visited. I'm not
28:06
being very strong, Pigeon. I'm
28:10
kind of ambivalent. I
28:14
have a lot of things to do for Pigeon, but if
28:16
the Pigeons are still listening after that documentary,
28:18
I would like to say, if you continue
28:20
to nest in the gables above my daughter's
28:23
bedroom window, I will have to
28:25
try to get the pest control man again, and he
28:27
will probably bottle up
28:30
the gable, you'll fly
28:32
to next door, and then
28:34
you'll just come back and somehow get in again. So
28:37
let that threat terrify
28:40
you.
28:48
Thank you for listening to this
28:50
creature feature. I
28:53
trust you are not too scared to
28:55
sleep, quake
28:58
in your boots. And
29:00
if you enjoy today's podcast,
29:03
you can find many more programs
29:06
to terrify and delight
29:08
in equal measure at bbc.co.uk,
29:12
for its last radio
29:15
four, or
29:17
on the BBC
29:18
sounds of
29:20
Spooks app.
29:26
About 2.30 in the
29:28
morning, and every
29:30
time in that
29:31
moment of waking, I would see the man standing
29:33
in the corner. In
29:36
here, uncanny, fear
29:39
free, you were just walking, non-responsive
29:42
without talking, without blinking, it
29:44
seemed like something interesting.
29:48
Terrifying real life encounters
29:50
with the supernatural. What
29:52
I saw in that house frightens
29:54
me, and I wish I'd never seen
29:56
it. Listen on BBC
29:59
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29:59
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