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Hey, and welcome to the shorty. I'm
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Josh, there's Chuck, there's Jerry.
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We don't say last names on these because we're crunched
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for time. Does that mean we need to
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say welcome to the long form
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when it comes to the other ones? All
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right, I think that's a great idea. Change is
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good, But you have to roll your L Welcome
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to the long for WHOA,
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I didn't know you were so good at that. Wait, there's
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an L, N and R in there. Let's see if I can do it. Welcome
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to the long from
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How is that you look like and
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sound like you're underwater and eating
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peanut butter? Uh?
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Speaking of eating peanut butter, did
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you know that in ancient Rome, if you ate a couple
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of gallons of peanut butter, it was very acceptable
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to stroll on over to a vomitorium
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and throw it up and stick a feather down
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your throat, or have sorry, have some young
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child stick a feather down your throat, or Bill
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murray so you could so
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you could throw up and then eat even
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more peanut butter. That's right, Chuck,
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that's an indisputable fact of history.
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Not true. No, And
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you know what something was bugging me researching
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this, I was like, I feel like I've
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said something like on
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the podcast before where I referenced this
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being correct and
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it wasn't. I probably did.
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But I'm in pretty good company because we've
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got this idea that that,
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yeah, in ancient Rome, it was totally normal
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to go throw up basically binge and purge,
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but purge in like a public area
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that's designated to go purge.
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Um that that's been
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around for at least since the nineteen
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twenties, and we can trace it all the way
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back to Algius Huxley. Actually,
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who who created this misconception?
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Yeah, I mean I thought this was a true
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fact up until two days ago.
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Basically everyone does. So don't
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feel bad again. You're in the company
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of Algius Huxley. How
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you pren on that Huxley? Not
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the first name Algius Algius?
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What do you pronounce it as Deletrius? I think
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you're you're swapping the U and the oh Aldus
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Aldus. I think it's Aldus. Oh,
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I like Algius, all right, I've re christened
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him. Well, he was a very alguous person.
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I don't know what that word means. I just
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made it up, Okay, good, because
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I was really embarrassed for a second. Yeah.
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So apparently, well, let's
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go back to Rome to quote the
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Great Frank Black and the Catholic song, uh
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vomitorius, which is the pull
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of vomitory Um. There were these
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things in ancient Rome, apparently, but
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it was just a very well, to my
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ear, weird name for
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a very u now common
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thing. Yeah, and they actually
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know who was the first two references a guy named
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Macrobius back in the fourth century CE.
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He just used it as a term to describe,
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based clear, a passage into and
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out of, say like the Colosseum,
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where people would be disgorged
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out at such a gross word into like
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um. Like you've been to Colosseum, right to
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the Colosseum, Yeah, okay,
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same here. It's an amazing place. Um,
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and there's there's just a lot of
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walking space that's actually
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really effectively designed. And
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one of the reasons why it's so effectively designed
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is because of these passageways
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to basically to your seat and then back
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out into the main walkway around the perimeter
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inside the Colosseum.
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Those places in and out between the
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two those are vomitoria.
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Yeah, what's what do we call them today? It's a not
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a portal but a portico
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maybe. No. I mean it's just like it's like any
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modern stadium design. It's the
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the hallway
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open thing that you walk through
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and then you're like, now I'm in the stadium.
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What do you call concourse? No? I
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think we should just go back to calling the vomitoria.
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Yeah, I'm gonna say that next time I go to a Falcons
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game. Hey, meet me at the vomatory
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to pardon me? Can you direct
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me to my vomatorium? I
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can't think of the word, and it's really bugging me. I
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know what you're talking about, and I want to say it's
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like portal too. I mean, it is a
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portal. Maybe some people call them that, but I
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think that's what they're called, like sports.
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Yeah, so there were seventy six of these
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though around up and
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down the coliseum. And apparently
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did you say how many people that they could shuttle
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in and out of there? Yet? No? Apparently
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fifty thousand people could get
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in and out of this thing, uh
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and like to their seats within about fifteen minutes.
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That's not bad, that's amazing. Can
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you imagine the porschemoho I just sit there in time
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it by looking at the sun,
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so many went blind right until it
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finally happened. They'd have to replace the first in every
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thirty seconds they were carting him away. Would
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be like, I got thirty
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seconds. Uh,
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what is the name of those things that's
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gonna buck me? I don't know. Uh.
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Should we take a break and talk about Aldus
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Huxley again? Algius? All
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right? Right after this? All
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right, so you set us up with Algius
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Huxley. What in the world did this? How
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could in the world could he have affected this? I
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mean, I guess he just heard of it before,
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and basically he mentions
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it in passing in a single line. He
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wrote a comic novel um
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called Antick Hay about
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post World War one decadent like
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upper upper class society
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and um he just basically mentioned
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like a goth coming into a vomitorium,
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and UM. I from
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the line I saw it didn't even really seemed
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to be like he was talking about the
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goth was gonna come throw up or anything
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like that. Um. But that
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was the first instance they could
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find if somebody using it
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not in the way that Macrobius was
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was using it as that portal thingy.
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Right, So so they think that
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he was the first one to say this or put
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it down and pen to paper. And
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you have to give him a break because he just injected
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a tremendous amount of LSD under his own
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eye before he started writing
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this, right, So we're gonna excuse
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him. The next person who gets
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zero excuse whatsoever is Lewis
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Mumford. And he was an
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historian, he was a critic. He
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should have known better. He did not do his which
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apparently had been reading al Drus Huxley
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and just basically cited it as
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fact in one of his books, The City in
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History. Yeah, and he he full on to
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find it as uh, where
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you over eat and you go and make yourself
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throw up And he just made
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that up. Yeah,
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as a fan of Huxley's I guess yeah,
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I guess so. I don't think he ever took
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a drop of acet either. He has zero excuse
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Lewis Mumford does. Uh. Well,
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here's the thing though, and this is where it does get kind
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of gross, because even though they
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did not originate in ancient Rome, there
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are real vomitoriums,
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apparently in places
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like Vietnam, and I look
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this up and I was trying to find a picture and I did find
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one, and it looks like where you would
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go to the sink and wash up in a public
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bathroom. But it has
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it looks like a tiny toilet
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bowl, like it's got the shape of a toilet
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bowl on a you know, like waist high.
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And then above this least this one it
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had a little tiny toilet tank. Even it
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looks like a miniature toilet except
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waiste high. So I saw when
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that was like a big stainless steel sink
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with like one of those like dishwasher
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like you have you ever washed dishes for a living? That
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was the first job. So you know, that's right. We
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talked about that, didn't you read out like everybody?
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And the Chase Barbecue? I didn't d out anybody. What are
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you talking about? What was it? I worked
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at JJ's. I was a boy and dishwasher, but
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they stuck their tennis shoe and like the Brunswick
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stewards that. Yeah, but I didn't
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read amount I should have, Okay. Yeah,
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So anyway, um, so
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you know, like the dishwashing sink thing,
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the Fawcett it had
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like one of those, so I guess you're expected to
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rinse the sink out after you vomited into
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it. But the way you know what you're doing and I
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saw your picture too, um,
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is there's a sign, like a like a road
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sign type graphic of
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of somebody throwing up. Yeah,
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and that's how you know to use it. So it's like it's
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like thick action became reality.
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Yeah, so like it has someone kind of been
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over heaving out. Uh.
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You know Graphic Spew great
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great band name, right, they're sort
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of they opened up for Guar for a while. Oh
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man, I'll bet actually I did see
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a band called Vomitory. Um. Oh, I'm
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sure Graphic Spew though, man
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a lie. But
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apparently all over ho Chi Minh City you can
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find these things, and some
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of them even have um
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like pictures of ancient Rome and stuff,
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I guess as a nod to the
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false claim that they started in ancient Rome.
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My head's about a pop and what about
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Germany? That gets even grosser. So this
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article on how stuff works says that they're puke
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pants. They're known colloquially
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as a puke pants. Not true. The
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only place I saw that on the internet is
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in this how stuff Works article. But
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there are vomitoriums in Germany.
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There's a place called Hoffbrow House in
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Munich. It's a beer hall that's known to have
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I've been there. Oh really, I've been
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to the Hot Boy House. Did you see the vomitorium?
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No, sorry, the puke pan. I
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did all my puking in the potted plants. Oh
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there, you god, I think that's that's ghosh,
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man, that's like wearing white after labor day. No,
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so there is one at the Hot Boy House. Supposedly, that's
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what I saw on trip Advisor. So
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our article claiming that in German frat
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houses that first of all, I didn't know
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Germany had fraternitys. That's got to be this.
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This whole thing just stinks of conception.
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Yeah. Well their source was antique
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dash Photos whatever
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that is. It's a Crystal Lynx site.
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I think. So. At the very
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least we know that in Germany there are designated
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puke places, and anyone who's
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I mean, I guess. I mean, first
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of all, you shouldn't be drinking so much that you regularly
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throw up anyway, that's point number one.
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But uh, if you've ever been
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in a bathroom stall and walked in like
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Oh boy, I gotta pee and it's
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just got vomit every where. It's
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one of the worst experiences you can have as a human.
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Yeah, especially if you don't have to pee but
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have to pooph We'll forget it.
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It's like Trainspotting. What is I
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never saw that movie? What happens? Then? Well,
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there's a scene where he goes to throw
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up some heroine that he had ingested so
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he can shoot it. Man.
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It's like it's a sort of a dreamy sequence
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of the bathroom is labeled as the worst
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bathroom in Scotland, and
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it's nasty, and he pukes in there
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and then reaches in and eventually you and
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McGregor goes all the way into the toilet
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and swims around. So it's
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it's a fantasy sequence. It does sound a little
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dreamy, you know, everyone's fantasy
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about going into a poop
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puke infested toilet and swimming
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And I'm missing out not having seen train Spotting.
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Yeah, it's a classic. Okay, well
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I'll go check it out. All right, you got anything else on
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this gross? I'm ready to move on. Yeah, I am
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to everybody. We're moving on. If you
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want to get in touch with us. You can go onto
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