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success because what you learn
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about yourself in any process outweighs
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any result. Hello
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and welcome back to Should I Delete That?
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I'm in Clarkson. And today the Matrix is
1:16
glitching because our
1:20
sound person is making the sounds.
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Hi, Daisy. Hello. That
1:24
was the biggest dad joke I've ever
1:26
heard. The sound person is making the
1:28
sounds. Daisy Grant. That's
1:30
me. I'm doing it all, baby. Behind
1:33
the scenes and on the stage all
1:35
at once. Write the theme tune, sing
1:37
the theme tune. Yeah, literally. How
1:40
are you doing, Dave? I'm
1:42
doing very well. It's really sunny
1:45
here today in Wales, which is surprising because it's
1:47
been miserable for about seven months. So that's nice.
1:51
How are you doing? I'm really good. I'm just home from Japan.
1:53
We got back last night. For
1:56
listeners worried that Alex, girl Alex, is still
1:58
not here. See
2:01
also sledding. I'm just. I'm.
2:03
Just hold it were I say i
2:05
it is no I in team we
2:07
are holding down the for. We
2:09
outside que. Se
2:12
weeks I need to easy digital some
2:14
some. I'm
2:17
loving it. A yeah it's good. it's
2:19
smart you have a girl Alex were
2:21
loving it into the computer fertile that
2:23
we let me come back soon as
2:25
you come back and so have you
2:27
got anything I totally even as he
2:29
gave a fool never never be fair.
2:31
he saw to. His and to tell me
2:33
my only contribution to might with my voice the
2:35
focus has been under to get Big Tire. Thing:
2:38
I'm thirty seven kids I did thing as
2:40
I thought snow had a season one hundred
2:42
the try to three. Have enough to
2:44
snow Thai restaurant maybe nothing that would
2:46
be the sat up your boss or
2:48
not get of. the type of I
2:50
think I get this week is simply
2:52
that me and Daisy and spin it
2:54
your all back together and Wales again
2:56
which is really cozy spin off doing
2:58
separate things and I think is the
3:00
first time off Christmas that we all
3:02
just been settled down Scatter it is
3:04
just comfortable a nice and were having
3:06
a really. Good time and so plus it's
3:08
it's a good you know? Listen the
3:11
contacts go for not talking about
3:13
herself and her have a personality
3:15
into his fiance Full Circle Daisy
3:17
So yeah gun fact together and
3:19
my dog Beddington with it. Spinach.
3:22
Yeah, so Daisy, my fiance and
3:24
I are to having an awfully
3:26
time unless it's good. about as
3:28
much good at the moment. What?
3:31
Matters is on. Fox has assessed time
3:34
I know big thought that I have
3:36
never been so desire to have never
3:38
wanted to come home from a level
3:40
in my life with Mrs On the.
3:43
Of upon which I didn't Amazing time,
3:45
but it was so uncool. Med. two
3:47
whole weeks of like. Adventure
3:49
and it was unsaid. Proud of myself
3:51
that we did it. And line that
3:53
was ethics to see some I say
3:56
far away added another. Don't ever do
3:58
a trip like not done different. No
4:00
would like a baby like it
4:02
was just a matter of adventure.
4:05
But by like day eleven, I
4:07
thought, oh, my God, we could
4:09
go home, soon hang National that
4:12
I would not be mad, we
4:14
were just so tired. And
4:16
into the stage A leading by so
4:18
different what you use two hands. Also
4:21
wanted to somebody just cruising like ease
4:23
again and say you yeah, I just
4:25
wish I'd really love you for coming
4:28
home and now I'm Burke. A nice.
4:30
I'm. Just so happy. Like I'm baffled.
4:32
The same honking of my phone and. Bought.
4:35
Working again button to and does that
4:37
was hard trying to did what thousand
4:39
and stuff and might do some gonna
4:41
nine hours ahead i fellow man i
4:43
would like i needed also. They five
4:45
so far. Defender: you're literally apophis is
4:47
the was some the worth of? No,
4:49
no, not at. All and myself
4:51
leaving but when the as
4:53
A set up into broken
4:55
up into retain some math
4:57
and training on my own
4:59
backyard and. I've got a
5:01
hot all as got high terror again and
5:03
a call again. And my Oh My
5:05
God. Clean Cleanse out of the
5:08
role rather than the least. Like.
5:12
Captures the good So many lands of like
5:14
holiday that's always so good but it does
5:16
get to appoint. Any. Holiday I
5:18
think were a can be too long and
5:20
like the fact that you did that with
5:22
a baby. Fucking Wild on. You guys like
5:24
that. Like Oakland, the I'm Going On in
5:27
Italy I'm finishing. This and I'm going to software because
5:29
I just won't put her in a padded room where she
5:31
can't hurt herself and she doesn't want. To be held
5:33
by me to walk and she's not been
5:35
in lots of all to plan to pay
5:37
between. Men and lots of ways. It's sort
5:40
of know and it was interesting, but I
5:42
think we actually. Have not been
5:44
holding. The schools. But.
5:46
Not in there was nowhere to put she
5:49
the in age from the sidewalk a white
5:51
flight pay off she blocked head over us
5:53
to be paid not self places like get
5:55
off I don't have a sense given say
5:58
that death let me fly. Yeah.
6:00
Stop clipping my wings! Yeah. I
6:02
can walk now. I'm a grow girl.
6:05
Yeah. I am out of here. She's actually
6:07
regressed on the walking spot. She's nailing it. And then obviously
6:09
she's been carried for two weeks and then I put her down
6:11
this morning on her mat and she's just like... She's
6:13
like, I got it. Yeah. So
6:15
anyway, that's good. I'm home. I'm
6:18
so happy. Anything bad, please, my
6:20
lady. It's kind of like a half bad,
6:22
half good. Today, as
6:25
we record, it's Friday,
6:27
which means it's the Traitors final
6:29
tonight, which I'm so
6:31
excited for, but so
6:34
devastated that it's the end of, because I've
6:36
been watching so intensely. Have you loved it? I
6:38
haven't watched it. Absolutely loved it. We just
6:41
have to watch it intensely because Daisy and I have a
6:43
podcast about it. So I take this job
6:45
very seriously of watching the Traitors. Have you, should I?
6:47
So I'm quite sad that it's coming to an end,
6:49
basically. Wow. That's
6:51
my bad. Yeah, I can't
6:53
believe it's already over, but I also feel like
6:56
it's one of those internet phenomenon that
6:58
I've been left out of because everybody's mad on it.
7:01
And you miss the beginning and then you're like, well...
7:03
You've been away. Yeah. So never mind, guys, go on
7:05
without me. I just missed this season. But
7:07
I have seen Claudia Winkleman. Did you see the
7:09
jumper that she was wearing? There's a jumper that
7:12
she was wearing. Everyone's got mad for it. And
7:15
my top six trait is that I thought I could miss it. So
7:18
I found the company that makes it and you can buy
7:20
the patterns for it so that you can knit it. I'll send it
7:22
to you because I'm totally thinking I should do it. I reckon
7:25
you're a good knitter, aren't you? I've been told
7:27
by you. So all evidence points
7:29
to yes. Yes, I'm a good knitter.
7:34
You said you're a good knitter, though. I could
7:36
knit a scarf. I could knit straight lines. Well,
7:38
I've never thought of neckline sleeves and sewing, but
7:40
I'm not going to let that stop me. I also have
7:43
no time. I am time poor. I never have a free hand. I
7:45
don't have time to knit. If
7:47
you get any moment that's free, though, to
7:49
do it, to use it
7:51
knitting, it's just so you
7:53
feel so good about yourself. I
7:55
know. I know. And better than everyone. Better than everyone
7:58
else because I could be sitting on my feet. scrolling
8:00
TikTok while watching TV or I could be
8:02
knitting while watching TV. Exactly. That is a
8:04
good ADHD choice in my opinion. I know.
8:06
I'm just like, I feel you girl. I feel you.
8:09
It's a bit of ass. So let me let me try. You
8:11
should do it. What was, what's your bad? My
8:13
bad was a 14-hour flight with a baby. It
8:16
was just very bad. That's long in there. It's
8:18
over now. Yes. Yes.
8:21
And the night flight was one thing.
8:24
The day flight, whole different
8:26
kettle of fish. We were
8:28
just awake and needing
8:30
her not to cry because
8:32
everybody already hates you. And that
8:35
should be my awkward actually. When you walk onto
8:37
a plane holding a baby, honestly, it's like
8:39
you could have done a shit in your own
8:42
hand and carried it down the aisle for the way
8:44
the people look at you. Like it's
8:46
a kind of like angry disappointment. And
8:48
as a chronic people pleaser, that is
8:50
a devastating look to be on the
8:53
receiving end of. Yeah, totally. It's really
8:55
unfair. I feel so bad. He crushed
8:57
it. She barely cried. Like the guy
8:59
next to me was, yeah,
9:02
he was snoring louder than what she was
9:04
crying. Can I just say? I swear so
9:06
many grown men would be a million times worse
9:08
than a baby. Surely.
9:10
Yeah. I'd rather sit next to
9:13
a lady than him. Like we took his
9:15
shoes off immediately. No. No. And then
9:17
at one point he lifted his t-shirts up and he scratched his
9:19
belly with both his hands. I don't know why
9:21
he had to get, it
9:26
was like a big bear. Like, that's
9:29
such a weird thing to do. Why don't
9:31
you go under the shirt and have a little
9:33
of it? I know. I don't know. He like
9:35
fully lifted up a bit.
9:38
I don't like it. I don't
9:40
like this man. I wouldn't like to see him.
9:42
That's horrible. No, no. And
9:45
actually, just to continue my attack
9:48
on this man's personality. Yeah, give me.
9:50
When we got off the flight, he'd
9:53
obviously been skiing in Japan,
9:55
because you can ski in Japan, and
9:58
he pushed in front of me. with
10:00
my baby and another man holding a baby and
10:03
to get into the list with his big skis.
10:05
I hate him. So the babies couldn't go
10:07
in the list and I just thought... Huh.
10:09
I hope he tripped. I hope he tripped on his
10:12
way home or got stuck in the traffic on the
10:14
particular route that he went on. Yeah.
10:17
I hope he felt that. I hope he paid. You
10:19
know what? The worst thing that Katia ever did. I'm sure I
10:21
told the story on the podcast but I remember when I was
10:23
like eight months pregnant and I was trying to get home from
10:25
Leicester Square and I was so
10:27
tired and just so enormous and it
10:29
was so cold and this old fuck
10:33
pushed him like I was waiting. I called my cab, had my
10:35
arm out and he pushed in front of me. I did tell
10:37
this story and he fell in my
10:39
cab and as he placed his date in the cab and
10:41
as the date went away Katia just slipped
10:43
into his room and continued he was really
10:45
old. She was like, I hate your trip and break
10:47
both your arms. I'm going to
10:49
break both your arms. What
10:53
a good sis. You need help. Yeah
10:55
exactly. Depending on my honour. Did you have an awkward already?
10:58
My awkward is that I walked into the flight but also
11:00
just a second look at it. I also got lymphatic drainage
11:02
this morning which was definitely a good. I
11:04
was so tired after eating
11:06
loads of salt and not drinking loads of water and the
11:08
flight home. So
11:11
had lymphatic drainage which was so amazing. Loved it.
11:13
But at one point the lady went,
11:17
do you mind if I rub your breast? No. That
11:23
one, you've really got some stuff in there.
11:25
We've got to get that out. That
11:29
breast is a bit milky. So
11:31
she just peeled back the towel and
11:33
took, I'm going to say my
11:35
boob in one hand but it's enormous so probably
11:37
both hands and just rubbed it.
11:40
I was like, did it feel satisfying
11:42
or incontinable? I'm
11:44
satisfied. I don't
11:46
know, maybe you just felt satisfied after. Nope,
11:49
that sounds really wrong. I didn't mean it like
11:51
that. I just meant the general lymphatic drainage. What?
11:55
I don't really understand what it is. Things just moved
11:57
on your body. They just rubbed you and it smiled
11:59
and I didn't. I wouldn't have believed in it except I
12:01
did it once after I had a baby because I read about
12:03
the benefits of like it after a cesarean so I did it
12:06
and it was so amazing and then I
12:08
went my friend does facials my sister works
12:10
at a faceless she's a receptionist at a
12:12
faceless and so then I was learning a lot about
12:14
lymphatic drainage of the face so I basically got like
12:16
fully swayed into like the lymphatic drainage thing and today
12:18
I was like you know what this is when I
12:21
need it like I'm so like far
12:23
through as likely for sure yeah my fingers
12:26
are swollen like my ankles are swollen you
12:28
know and like I just felt really small
12:30
yeah and she basically just they just rub
12:32
you yeah in the direction of
12:35
your lymph nodes so like
12:37
two elbows sorry two other
12:39
two underarms yeah it's
12:42
just full mouthful basically and then you just have to drink
12:44
loads and loads of water and it drains you and honestly
12:46
the difference I feel she did one of my legs and
12:48
then made me lift it up and then made me lift up
12:50
the leg that she hadn't done and it was literally like the
12:52
one she hadn't done was full of lead really
12:56
yeah it was amazing that sounds really fun
12:58
yeah it was really good yes
13:06
you should and just be prepared that someone
13:08
might ask you if you'd like your breath
13:10
to be rubbed that's like go
13:12
for it lady give it a red hot go
13:15
I don't mind girl are you kidding girl you
13:18
get in there what about you my friend anything walk
13:20
quick before we get into the interview oh my god
13:22
it's really boring but basically I just don't know how
13:24
my oven works and I think it's just really awkward
13:27
I cried when Daisy got home the other day from
13:29
London because I made it I spent
13:31
I slaved over an aubergine parmigiana and I was
13:33
feeling so proud of it and then we got
13:35
back home and it was burned to
13:37
shit and I just took it out the oven and
13:39
immediately burst into tears and Daisy was like don't worry
13:42
darling I'll still eat it and it was like black
13:44
on top and I was like this is the worst
13:46
thing ever and so I'm just I'm just embarrassed I
13:48
should be old enough to know how my fucking oven
13:50
works but I don't I love that
13:53
don't you literally do
13:56
yeah it's bad it just it made me upset
13:58
that's big Alex I know, I'm actually
14:01
quite a good cook so I was quite sad and
14:03
this is what is upsetting me. I'm like, it's ruining
14:05
my food. The oven, it's not me. Yeah,
14:07
you saw a different over-gene parmigiana.
14:10
I did, I did. I tell you
14:12
who I did. So I'm quite
14:14
demo about that. Anyway, awkward, embarrassing. Fuck the
14:16
oven. Yeah, fuck my oven. So
14:18
who have we got that on the podcast today,
14:20
M Clarkson? As if you wouldn't know, as if
14:23
you didn't spend hours editing it already. It's
14:25
true. But
14:27
I like it, I'll play along. So
14:29
today on the podcast, we have my
14:32
friend, Dan Richards, who
14:35
came to tell his story, which I'm so
14:37
grateful for. So I first met Dan in
14:39
2016. He was one of
14:43
the band of brothers, one of the wounded
14:45
guys on a bike ride that my mum and
14:48
I were doing for Help for Heroes. So it
14:50
was one of the big, bottom-sealed bike rides. And
14:53
I hadn't met Dan before. And he got
14:55
up and did a speech on the third
14:57
or fourth day about his
15:00
story, about his
15:02
accident. He was in a motorcycle crash,
15:05
which resulted in him losing not
15:07
just his arm, but his entire
15:09
shoulder as well. So he had
15:12
this completely life-changing injury and
15:15
lost his job as a result. And he
15:18
spoke so openly about not only his accident,
15:20
but about the mental health implications of
15:22
an accident like that. And it
15:25
was so moving. And
15:28
we became friends literally from
15:30
that day on. We just loved him.
15:32
He came and cycled with us for the rest of
15:34
the trip. And he's been in my life ever
15:36
since. It's been eight years. And I'm
15:38
really, really grateful that he came to speak. He's
15:40
had such an interesting career since then. He went
15:43
on a show called Naked Beach, which I always
15:45
thought was the bravest thing in the whole wide
15:47
world. And
15:50
his journey to confidence and
15:53
body confidence has just been really remarkable
15:55
to watch. So I was really excited
15:57
that he came to speak to us and actually just told us.
16:00
us his own story. He basically gave
16:02
the speech that he did
16:04
that I heard all those years ago. So
16:08
he's just here to tell his story really and
16:10
I hope you love him as much as we
16:12
do. Hello
16:15
Dan. Hello. I'm so excited that you came
16:17
to speak to us. For
16:19
context, Dan and I have been friends for
16:21
seven? Yeah. Isn't it?
16:23
2016, yeah. Wow. So yeah, we met in 2016 and that
16:25
was on one of the Help to Heroes bike rides,
16:31
which we were cycling. Where were we going?
16:34
It was Northern Friday's Battlefield bike ride.
16:36
So Belgium to Verdun. It
16:39
was a long way. Yeah. It
16:41
was your first time doing an
16:43
event like that. I mean,
16:45
this is part of my introduction to cycling, but
16:47
like that ride, I
16:49
got a spot as an ambassador. They
16:52
called him the band of brothers back then. Help
16:54
heroes. The help heroes. And the band of
16:56
brothers was just a community of wounded in the city. So
16:58
it doesn't matter if you were a woman, male,
17:01
female, you
17:03
were kind of a band of brother anyway and
17:05
relatives with the band of sisters. And you could
17:08
be a husband. Got it. Got it.
17:11
It wasn't gender specific. We met on
17:13
that. We met a couple of days in,
17:15
which was at some point in Belgium. I
17:17
met Dan because like you say, there are
17:19
hundreds of people on the ride and you
17:21
got up and you told your story and
17:23
it was so amazing. And you came and
17:26
sat with us for lunch after that. And
17:28
like we've been friends since, which
17:30
I'm very, very grateful for. That was how I
17:32
learned so much about you because obviously you told
17:34
your story so eloquently. So it would be amazing
17:36
for everybody listening if you could kind of tell
17:38
us your story, how you came to be involved
17:40
with Help to Heroes, your accident and yeah,
17:42
everything that led you to do that bike ride in the first place. Yeah,
17:45
sure. Well, pull up a sandbag and I'll
17:47
tell you a story. So I was brought
17:49
up in a military kind of family, really,
17:52
like my biological father who
17:54
I have no relationship with. And
17:56
I think it's a mutual kind of thing.
18:00
When I was four, I was born in Ascot, we
18:02
moved to Germany, and that's
18:04
where him and Mum got divorced and we moved
18:06
back to the UK. We
18:08
then moved to Swindon, where
18:11
I pretty much grew
18:13
up there from about nine
18:15
to 17. But
18:18
Mum had a boyfriend who was an absolute ...
18:21
Yeah, do you know what? He
18:23
was a shitbag. He was a very strict
18:26
man, and I'm the oldest of three. I
18:29
used to get beaten up like a
18:31
man, like, I hit round the head
18:33
and stuff, and my sister was
18:35
abused. Mum had no
18:38
idea what was going on until the
18:40
day she found out, and
18:42
I just remember waking
18:44
up one morning, and it's gone. And
18:47
it was the first time in growing
18:50
up where I felt
18:52
safe in a house, like, between
18:54
after Mum getting divorced to Dad
18:57
and then this guy leaving. So
19:00
it was a
19:02
strange upbringing, but Mum
19:05
did so good with us, and we lived on accounts of
19:07
the staying staff. As kids, we'd
19:09
never know if Mum
19:12
was in financial trouble or anything, because she completely
19:14
kept her away from me. We had a really
19:16
good upbringing, all by four years, with
19:18
an absolute prick of a bloke in the house. Mum
19:21
met my ... For all intents and
19:23
purposes, my stepdad, but he's my dad,
19:25
so his surname is my surname and
19:28
whatnot. So if it is a conversation for the rest of
19:30
today, he's my dad. Mum
19:34
met my dad in Tidworth. He was in the
19:36
army, and every day I was just watching him go out to
19:38
work in his uniform. I'd see him
19:40
with his friends and stuff, and all
19:42
of that all coming around the house. And that whole
19:45
kind of ... Obviously, at such a young age, you
19:47
don't know what that is, but
19:49
I was like, that's what I want. I
19:51
was eight years old, people would say, well, I said
19:53
to Mum and Dad, I was like, when I'm old enough, I
19:56
want to be like, Dad, that's what I want to do. And
19:59
I guess ... As such a
20:01
young age to have that kind of
20:03
direction. And sense of
20:05
purpose if you the height of i knew
20:07
who I wanted to be your new whiny
20:09
to see to get there. So from school
20:11
I knew. It wasn't
20:14
as well as school anyway, but didn't like
20:16
school to be honest. Bomb. Oh
20:18
free school was friends whose in what
20:20
jesus he's to do to get into
20:22
what college or university of guy that.
20:25
Are. More interested in any favorites?
20:27
Face awesomely. Finish school. saw
20:29
basic training and I'm. Yeah
20:33
I the I left time for the first
20:35
time. As seventeen trailer anything
20:37
other than a weekend send to in the army.
20:40
And that's kind of when I.
20:43
Asked. So independence stuff. and
20:45
long as there's the oblivion hi
20:47
I'm kind of been open to
20:50
a. And
20:52
environment that. I'd. Won it
20:54
for so many years. For.
20:57
Me of living the dream. An answer yeah
20:59
I went all I did. basic training less
21:01
spicy trail. most rating was impaired Roy and
21:04
sorry. And then it
21:06
was during those first three months. That's
21:08
all I got. How about regiment with
21:10
the King Street and saw was sold.
21:12
The train was riding horses and right
21:14
number eight and will face. with
21:17
kind of when against why joined the
21:19
army for and. One. Thing
21:21
my dad always told me when I was growing up and
21:23
I was too. And in the arm, is this what you
21:25
do. This with you on a
21:27
day Macys a trade and so would is
21:29
trying. thrown off from the kings and and
21:31
in Feria was one to far as a
21:33
blacksmith I mean she's horse and stuff but
21:35
there's so many different sauces so far as
21:38
well. Said with a minor in the but
21:40
since he was a non deployable unit is
21:42
is predominately a ceremonial regimen. Our site will
21:44
before I thomas of though that there are
21:46
things I wanna day I want the operation
21:48
told what to do some odd own A
21:50
do I went astray. I was some life
21:52
experience humble some world experience say I went
21:54
off the Afghanistan in two thousand and seven.
21:57
i came back track for in a
21:59
poet himalayas And then when we go back
22:01
from that, and this was the end of
22:03
2008 now, I had made it clear that
22:08
I was only in the kingship to become a farrier. And
22:11
if that wasn't a possibility, then I want to be
22:13
transferred out. So it
22:15
was agreed that after a parade, and it was Queen's
22:17
birthday parade, or Trooping
22:19
the Colour, that I could
22:23
start making progress towards getting into the
22:25
forge. I did one full dress
22:27
review of Trooping the Colour, which was 30th of
22:29
May 2009, and I managed
22:32
to get my dad and my grandma the
22:34
last two tickets to come and sit in the stands and
22:36
watch it. My family had never seen me on parade
22:39
in that capacity before. And
22:41
the following day, I handed
22:44
over the guard room, I went out on
22:46
my motorbike, riding back
22:48
to my barracks. I
22:51
don't know what happened, how it happened. I didn't even
22:53
have flashbacks. I
22:56
woke up sort of three days later in
22:58
the Royal London at Whitechapel via helicopter, an
23:00
arm and shoulder liar, amongst some other injuries. And
23:03
I had a collision with the central
23:05
reservation on the 841 Hendon Way, shoulder first, which ripped
23:09
my arm and shoulder off on sight. I
23:11
had lacerated my internal jugular, two broken ankles, and then
23:13
this arm was smashed to pieces as well. And
23:16
there's a picture of me on my phone somewhere of
23:18
me in hospital, not long, a day or so after I'd
23:20
been woken up with my arm suspended in
23:22
a blue foam cast with external fixators
23:24
in it, cast
23:27
up my legs with a
23:29
beaming smile on my face. Yeah. But
23:33
like, the thing is, the thing is,
23:35
is when they woke me up and
23:37
I don't remember much, but I do remember being woken up
23:39
in hospital. And they
23:41
were like, Mr. Richards, you know, I thought
23:43
I was back in my barracks in the back
23:46
of my room in my barracks when I woke up. And then
23:48
as I sort of began to piece together,
23:50
I mean, the first thing that hit me, I never thought it
23:52
is like the peppery anesthetic taste in the back of your throat
23:54
from the anesthetic. I've been
23:56
down in operations before and, and like, it
23:59
was a... Amelia in in his are kind
24:01
of a bad happened to i hadn't
24:03
a wall and as you kind of
24:05
begins his senses le Masque listed up
24:08
Mama Davos today the made with those
24:10
was strange at the time because in
24:12
my room in the barracks and buried
24:14
in mind that room with tiny but
24:16
it was mine never share of anyone.
24:19
My bed was right next to the warm
24:22
weather window was forget how top listed here
24:24
but have. Always. Had their
24:26
varsity the vote based. On
24:29
that was it another say up. Going to
24:31
see the the beds for the warden is
24:33
a High Seas units and and and then
24:35
I'll be to the doctor He martin him
24:37
with his with his assistants and thus from
24:39
a whole given the good news release sites.
24:42
Good news And them and them is
24:45
he been in there was a mess
24:47
on less than a very lucky to
24:49
be allies and what zebra him ankles?
24:52
the different pincers. hey I'm. About
24:54
that he left arm was bright say nothing. When I
24:57
got to be in the road my hand was cup
24:59
in my elbow. says.
25:01
Bed my back on about his. South of about Pets
25:03
V X Rays was a place of a down the
25:05
raiders know wanna. I'm
25:08
a hit the barrier that hard I bust my arse.
25:10
a fool lepers. I bust the second open but as
25:13
it was killed on up. Of
25:15
approval by Hillman. Home from that
25:17
I am medicine muscle reminder of
25:19
how things change. and
25:22
then in a fuss is but when i
25:24
bet i and the dogs have walk around for
25:27
my left arm round about my beds. Came
25:29
up the right hand side. I'm it's of
25:31
what's in him. And
25:33
then the next was have come out. With. A
25:36
Unfortunately. But. They like any
25:38
sentence as costs a fortune they raise
25:40
the level of club promises sides of
25:42
fortune. They offer six half hours of
25:44
surgery. Who. Are they were save
25:47
your right arm off site and soda.
25:49
or bit of flavor and i went
25:51
it but assumes a pillow auto black
25:53
piece of material staple of habit of
25:55
skins cover the old when the doctor
25:57
said that i call be upset disaster
26:00
a massive shock to testing. I was 23 at
26:02
the time as well and I got a bit
26:04
upset and obviously being that age as well at
26:06
vanity is a massive part of your life and
26:10
it's like who's going to
26:12
want me now basically? I'm going to
26:14
be just a broken kind
26:17
of disregarded thing for the rest of
26:19
my life and
26:22
I got a bit upset. Then I
26:24
remember looking around, there were people
26:26
from the regiment, their mum and dad were their
26:29
friends there and they were obviously a bit upset.
26:31
I had this massive shock to the system and
26:34
then the nurse was there and
26:36
I went
26:39
verbatim. I said, is
26:41
the plumbing still attached and working? She
26:44
said, that's fine, you've got a capper to hang out with. I went,
26:46
do you know what, nothing else matters and does it? I said, there
26:48
are people worse off than me. Looking
26:51
back on that moment, do you
26:53
know what, I guess it's the moment I accepted my situation. I
26:55
was like, I'm going to be in my own arm for the
26:57
rest of my life. It's never going
27:00
to grow back. I'll probably never get it
27:02
back so let's just get on with it. It
27:05
was in hospital where I set my first goal. They
27:08
wheeled me into the toilet after
27:11
having an enema and I
27:13
was like, I've never felt more vulnerable in my
27:15
life after having one of those. They
27:20
wheeled me in and they said,
27:23
when you're finished, pull the orange cord and someone will
27:25
come and tidy you up. I
27:27
had a word like, I'm
27:29
quite worried about myself in the toilet. I
27:31
said, if I can't
27:34
wipe my own ass and I've got the capacity to be
27:36
able to do so, this hand was in a cast
27:38
at the time, I need to
27:40
help work with myself. That was
27:42
when I went, I need my independence back. So
27:53
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are so many different. Feat
28:59
in itself. Ponzi this line of
29:01
sight games rest of my game.
29:04
Everything so many to even now
29:06
thinks he's you sound very deep
29:08
asked to her ah. I'm
29:10
going to do that. I didn't know it,
29:12
it's harmful. Fundamental lot have been be
29:15
locked, he's in ghosts and will become
29:17
bar smells when it was my spent
29:19
two months in hospital for once he
29:21
had the whole had to call it
29:23
but was at the Defense Medical Rehabilitation
29:26
center where everyone within the military guys
29:28
were busy person or thing though we've.
29:30
lost arms or legs and or nights
29:33
i must really when i play spades
29:35
to other people in similar situations before
29:37
limbless and and do enough author or
29:39
use them as inspiration er my first
29:41
for say com i have a war
29:43
was purely cosmetic it was to show
29:45
for that elaborate one of our and
29:48
ordered to hang their and is kind
29:50
of a gave me as a little
29:52
bit of a glimpse into way would
29:54
be like to live with the paralyzed
29:56
on the amount of accommodating i have
29:58
to do with to putting a
30:00
t-shirt on with this prosthetic arm. I
30:03
was like, you know, I'm glad it's gone because I'd have
30:06
it off anyway. You know,
30:08
it's surplus to a climate essentially.
30:11
And so returned back to the regiment, relearned
30:13
to ride a horse again, because
30:15
I was quite adamant that I'm gonna
30:17
go back to the unit. And
30:20
I'm not gonna let really one bad day kind
30:22
of dictate and ruin what I've spent, well,
30:25
essentially my life kind of wanting
30:27
to do. I was just gonna say
30:29
one bad day. It's
30:32
a very bad day. Very bad, yeah. I
30:35
really like to ride a horse. I took
30:38
a photo shoot and I rock climbing in Spain. And
30:41
it was on the rock face. And
30:43
I think this is like two years in
30:45
now, like post-injury. I remember
30:47
on the rock face, I became the lead climber with
30:49
that little 10 day expedition. And I went, you know
30:51
what? If I can adjust to this way of life,
30:53
like I have, I've got nothing
30:55
to worry about. Like, how
30:58
wrong was I? But
31:01
shortly after that experience and whatnot,
31:05
I then, I was three years in
31:07
and that's when I had a
31:09
medical board. I had a medical board every year. And every
31:11
year that I had them, this was the third one, that
31:14
the previous two I'd been like, now I'm gonna stay in.
31:16
And I met all of the criteria
31:19
that they set for me to achieve. To
31:22
stay in the army. To stay in the army. Obviously
31:24
at the time as well, and this is 2009 was
31:28
the accident, 2012
31:30
was the last one, but in those years, I
31:33
had to meet criteria, you know, to show that
31:36
willing. And I was very much of
31:38
the opinion like, look, I'm coming back to the army. I
31:41
don't wanna be just someone
31:44
that sits in the corner and
31:46
collects dust like a useless
31:49
ornament, if you like. I wanna earn my spot back here.
31:51
I can't do press ups, I can't do pull ups. Well,
31:53
I can run. And
31:55
I did it, I did it. With the metal plates and your
31:57
ankles as well. Well, it was a few. I
32:00
had the bolts out at this point. So
32:02
I went in for this medical board, and that's
32:04
when they said, literally, you
32:07
are no longer insured to do anything
32:09
military ever again, including making
32:11
cups of tea for anyone other than yourself. I was
32:13
in Frimley Park the following day, had
32:15
my ankle fused so I can't run. And the day
32:17
after that, I was in Tebweth
32:20
House, Tebweth House's Help
32:22
Heroes Recovery Center. And leaving
32:24
the military under medical discharge terms is
32:26
a six-month process. I
32:29
was wheelchair bound at the time, non-weight bearing for
32:31
my ankle fusion. So I
32:33
couldn't really get involved on the resettlement
32:35
process. Like the
32:37
buildings were inaccessible. So I just involved
32:39
myself in whatever I could do, and it was
32:42
things like, what can I debunk my CV at?
32:44
Because bearing in mind, I spent the last sort
32:46
of nine and a half, 10 years only
32:49
interested in things that got me into the forge.
32:51
I was not as television. And so
32:53
I spent six months at Tebweth House, and
32:55
my last day in the military was the 28th
32:58
of September And
33:00
that was literally my last paid
33:02
day as a
33:04
soldier in the military. And I
33:07
went back home, and I was a little bit excited
33:09
about the unknown, but at the same
33:11
time, I was thinking, what am I going to do with my life? And
33:13
I had quite a bit of money saved up as well, a bit of
33:15
money sort of saved up. And I had, give
33:17
myself a month off, I got bored after
33:19
two weeks, and that's when I started to
33:22
look for work. And it's like marrying up your
33:24
experiences. And you think, oh, the job I did, the job I did
33:26
in Africa and the sun, the job I did
33:28
in the UK and all the work, I've still got
33:30
some managerial experience. What else am I doing for that?
33:34
It was an eight month kind of process,
33:36
if you like, of which became
33:38
327 job applications, of
33:42
which not one let's say anything sub-basic. I
33:45
think I had about five replies of, you
33:48
haven't got the skills or experiences required. But
33:51
during that time, and before I got to my
33:54
next decision, I kind of swallowed my pride and thought, well,
33:56
I'll go bottom of the ladder, Entry
33:58
level roles, nothing.. The end
34:00
of a run a part of what is as
34:02
well. I'm living on my savings. My mom had
34:04
my mama, step dad and. I
34:07
remember our hats he it was the
34:09
end same of his August Twenty Thirteen
34:12
about i'm a Hazard every tax and
34:14
and saw my car was always uses
34:16
do ideally I went to pay for
34:18
it. I'm a contest fluids
34:20
and a frustrated and defines know some
34:23
I own my bank and five fifteen
34:25
pence to my name and everything is
34:27
on that was will run in parallel
34:29
with Order This trying to find a
34:31
foothold into soy and one morning mom
34:33
and. Step at a
34:35
glance, work on them. Or.
34:37
Glob Shower or my it is a
34:39
snap decision. I'd never thought about doing
34:42
anything like this before. Offshore
34:45
Affection in the Mirror and as the
34:47
I'll Save A Way I was on
34:49
caps no color, nothing like the person
34:51
with the said that you know of
34:53
Qasim. These. Distanced from often back
34:55
of a door for years and forgotten about. An
34:58
I when. If. This were less constant
35:01
for me. Off the everything I've been for
35:03
you. I. Really wanna be policy
35:05
and or when a lot about dressing gown bow
35:07
a lot I wanna run the had both been
35:09
around my neck and I sat on the floor
35:11
and i measure the our enough so that might
35:13
bomb wouldn't touch the floor so his. Thumb.
35:17
And a half way through. And in
35:19
it. And I was. I. Was.
35:22
Month gonna say was finds me. And.
35:27
It was weird. Alliance?
35:29
Hide it or got up. On
35:31
this matter London and that was the
35:33
next goal and I needed my to
35:35
London. How the fuck are Monica with
35:37
fifteen pays homage going to do this
35:39
and in a twist of fate. Of
35:42
itself as a safer. With a
35:44
stop, somebody who castoffs all of the
35:46
workforces. Military The veterans mean
35:48
it's with a percentage being wounded agencies.
35:52
and a women's as sick as a large
35:54
kind of group if you like of is
35:57
not just physical injuries it's it's impossible was
35:59
wealth and can't see, so PTSD. And they offered
36:01
me a job on the spot. Very in the mind, I
36:03
met the founder and
36:06
director of operations at the time. And I mean, I
36:08
was long hair, massive beard,
36:10
a bit overweight, not that I
36:13
mattered, but cargo shorts, a pair
36:15
of manky Timberland boots. Like
36:17
really, and I'm going to be
36:19
driving exposed to like London's elite,
36:22
essentially, business owners of
36:24
like footsie, 500 companies and at
36:26
some point like celebrities and different award
36:28
ceremonies and stuff and a royalty at
36:30
one point. And I moved out of,
36:33
I moved from Somerset and I lived in a caravan
36:35
from 2014, well, all of 2014, through
36:37
15 in this caravan
36:41
in a little village called Raisbury, just
36:43
outside Windsor. And I remember it, this,
36:46
the only luxury of this car of this
36:48
static home that I had was
36:50
that I could flush the toilets and run the taps.
36:53
That was it. It leaked, it had holes in
36:55
it. I go to bed at night in my
36:57
old army sleeping bag. And my
37:00
duvet pulled over me because I couldn't
37:02
afford the gas canisters for the heating.
37:04
Some days I'd have like a year and as the,
37:06
and as the home shopping van
37:08
would turn up, but that was because somebody had
37:11
come to see me and worked
37:14
out my situation. Because in amongst those,
37:16
there were days, there were weeks, sorry,
37:18
where I couldn't afford to go shopping
37:20
and fill my cupboards up. So I
37:23
would live on custard cream biscuits and
37:25
cups of tea. But like, I turned
37:27
up to work for the clients, macularly
37:30
turned out, shirts
37:32
were always ironed, suit
37:34
was never creased, shoes were always
37:37
shiny. And the people I was driving, and
37:40
I was exposed to, and I was exposed to affluence of
37:42
a level I'd never seen before, and
37:45
success and so on. And one
37:48
day I went, I had a bit
37:50
of an epiphany and I just went, what are
37:52
these people doing when no one else is
37:54
looking? Because if it's working
37:56
for them, why can't it work for me? And It
37:58
weren't about becoming. You know, massively
38:01
successful Hideous. the rich com a lot
38:03
of stories over noise as told by
38:05
Just Because. I just it is what
38:07
they're doing when there's no external validation.
38:10
I'm. I'm in the past place to find
38:12
out because are spending more time with
38:15
these people when back in whitehall than
38:17
desk was going to be their families
38:19
as hobbies and the cherry pick kind
38:21
of personally attributes from from these people
38:23
on for is a conversation that was
38:25
the value of time the things I
38:27
could do year before stop days. To.
38:30
Made my day. Less.
38:33
Compact this a lot with I'd consider my mind
38:35
i you know something was up. a slice up
38:37
at like five into more like to be at
38:39
their house or five in the morning. So I
38:41
got like two hours early. Or
38:43
there for war on race for it and it has
38:45
to hold of a sort of us have a tall.
38:48
Is of his and he says one
38:50
is harmful Bus was a was quite
38:52
surprising and a nice how clear my
38:55
mind was hum or white I wasn't
38:57
ready to the day. I
39:00
just who do not like this habit
39:02
that is going to form an. Isis.
39:05
When any opportunity get from now on I don't care
39:07
what is a my rid myself of me so much
39:10
in the past. Have.
39:13
Some say yes or don't have it is.
39:16
Because. I probably with that is not my
39:18
saying I've picked up from somewhere there's nothing
39:20
more expensive than the missed opportunity and say
39:22
with that in mind, Twenty. Four
39:25
wayne are taken away by. A
39:28
by an organization Depth Therapy. He
39:30
took me away to Egypt's. Or.
39:33
Why lads, he's. In the
39:35
run up to Egypt or that soon
39:37
as qualified as an open was he
39:39
was I've with patti put of retail
39:41
copy license for it was have never
39:43
used since I didn't have any we'll
39:45
see who's a spokesperson says for professional
39:47
that was not a tough cyprus and
39:49
then I'll go back from there are
39:51
a win more for the guy's a
39:53
guy was there with windows we will
39:56
forget her name on a lot biplanes
39:58
who will be no money. Wing!
40:00
I did wind. I wind walking,
40:03
just jump up and down in the wind and see how far you
40:05
can go. Wow! I
40:07
love the wind. She gets really annoyed by it.
40:10
It's highly caught, it's annoying. Yeah, headwinds. Gave that a
40:12
go. But
40:14
as we're doing this, certainly those two things, and
40:16
I'm sure there are others, which I can't remember,
40:20
I was beginning to find this
40:22
sense of adventure, and
40:25
it's like I was getting a glimpse
40:27
into the old Dan Richards,
40:30
with a bit of an improvement, and then
40:33
I took up the opportunity to
40:35
go through a selection process, to
40:38
become part of the world's first
40:40
all-disabled crew, to row unsupported across the
40:42
Atlantic Ocean. I
40:45
knew nothing about rowing, and you can imagine the jokes that
40:47
I got. Most of the rosers
40:49
have got two arms, haven't they? And
40:51
so I got a lot of jokes, you know, you can
40:54
go round in circles and all that stuff, but there were
40:56
a lot of naysayers as well, a lot of naysayers, you
40:58
know, what are you doing that for, what's the point, you
41:00
never get it. And do you
41:03
know what, yeah, I didn't get it. I
41:05
went through the selection process, and
41:08
I watched over that time
41:11
as people either removed themselves,
41:13
or they weren't, I wouldn't
41:16
say they're not good enough, that's the wrong word, but
41:18
a lot of it was self-removal, or
41:21
the selection process, kind of like, look, it's not going
41:23
to go any further than this. And I got to
41:25
the final five, I think there
41:27
were about 30 of us altogether, got to
41:29
the final five, and
41:31
I did my final selection, which was a
41:33
24-hour row on the Indoor rowers, with three
41:35
of the selected four crew, and
41:38
so I was a little bit like, yeah, I've definitely got this, this
41:40
is going to be an amazing adventure. And I got
41:42
the phone call, and it was like, we're going to go with someone else
41:44
essentially. Good thing. You
41:47
say that, that's my greatest
41:49
achievement. And it sounds really wanky
41:51
and cliche, and so you should have a couple of
41:53
hashtags at the end of it. But
41:56
no, I learned more about
41:58
myself, one, capable of
42:01
in spite of my limitations, in spite of
42:04
the amount of naysayers and obstacles
42:06
I came up against in
42:09
that process than I probably
42:11
have done of any in any
42:13
other time. It's a matter no matter what I achieve
42:16
from now until the day that I die that
42:18
I'll always be kind of the precipice of which I've
42:20
built everything else upon and with that I put the
42:22
phone down. Thanks very much and well thanks for the
42:24
opportunity I really enjoyed it. I put the
42:26
phone I need to make up to do. I had a bike and
42:30
that was my precursor to cycling and that's when we
42:32
met. I then moved into
42:34
my flat where I live now in South
42:36
London. We helped you build your furniture. You
42:38
did that. You and Alex. Yeah we're like
42:40
the worst people to help. The
42:43
knife rack is still up and working very well. The
42:45
one thing that I got from the
42:50
row was what
42:53
success is and to
42:56
me and in my in my humble
42:59
opinion success to
43:01
me isn't winning. It's not getting the medal. It's
43:03
not getting the promotion. You can put it into
43:05
any facet of life you like and
43:07
there's no shame in giving up and
43:09
no one should be made to feel the shame for giving up
43:12
but running parallel with all of that if you can hold your
43:14
hand and say yeah I did my absolute fucking best here then
43:17
that's success because what you
43:20
learn about yourself in any process
43:23
outweighs any result any any
43:25
tangible results so if you want to get a medal
43:28
you know gold silver bronze yeah
43:31
if you don't get that but you've done you've tried
43:34
your absolute best in
43:36
doing that well then
43:38
the bits that you've learned you can carry over
43:40
to the net if you try again and I've
43:43
taken that forward into cycling I did it
43:45
on our ride the battle for arrival
43:47
meet but we met my thing with cyclists I
43:49
can't stand up and cycle so when
43:51
it comes to Hills I'm confined to
43:54
the saddle but top of the over and
43:56
every hill that we got to in France
43:58
I rode up here.
44:00
I was probably at the back sometimes. I caught
44:02
up with everyone. All they
44:05
waited for me. My thought process on
44:07
that is a hill
44:09
is a hill, at the top of this hill, this would
44:11
be a nice view. It would be lovely. If I
44:13
get off and walk, I don't know, not
44:16
everyone would agree with this, but my was
44:18
like, if I get off and walk, yes, I'll get the
44:20
view. I wouldn't have earned it. That's
44:26
what I do now. I take that into every hill
44:28
that I do, even if I had
44:30
ridden it before, I can get off and walk if I want to. What's
44:34
it taught me? That
44:36
when it gets hard, I can just take the easier way out.
44:41
Take from that what you like. It's not a
44:43
copy and paste thing, but I
44:46
look at losing my arm and shoulder
44:48
now. This probably sounds a
44:50
bit of a cop out, but it's probably the greatest thing that's
44:52
ever happened to me. The
44:54
way I live my life now and the things that I've
44:56
been able to do and the people I've met, Francie,
45:01
Alex, Finlow, and
45:04
Catherine, all that, would
45:06
probably never have happened had
45:10
I not been through this. I'd never
45:12
been on the battlefield bike ride like
45:15
this. I'd never have got the opportunity to train
45:17
and be selected for
45:19
the row. So many things happen because
45:24
of this and it aligns the values of
45:26
how I live my life. It
45:29
was the end of the battlefield bike ride. I got to have
45:31
a done where it finished and I went,
45:33
I'm going to be a cyclist. What can
45:35
I do in cycling? I'd missed the
45:37
incachment deadline for the Invictus
45:40
Games of 2017, which that
45:42
year were held in Toronto in 2017. The Invictus Games
45:44
are the, Prince Harry started them and
45:46
they're the military. It's
45:49
basically, yeah, the Easy way to say
45:51
it is, it's a military. Olympics. Paralympics.
45:54
Paralympics, yeah. But
45:57
it doesn't focus on elite competition. The
46:00
Invictus Games is all about a
46:02
recovery process. People apply to take
46:04
part in it as
46:06
part of their recovery and so on. Because
46:08
sport is a wonderful, wonderful tool when
46:10
it comes to managing anything you're
46:13
going through. And
46:15
I stand by that unequivocally. I'd moved into
46:17
my flat at this point and I had
46:20
no money to kind of afford the
46:22
luxuries of cycling. And so
46:24
I just basically begged, or instilled what I
46:26
could, to train
46:29
for the games. I couldn't afford, I couldn't
46:31
even afford a Zwift membership. Zwift is a
46:33
training platform for cycling. You bloody love Zwift.
46:35
I do now. Do you follow Dan on
46:37
Instagram, Zwift? But very in the
46:39
meanwhile, I couldn't afford this as I was training for
46:41
the games. And that's 13 pounds a month.
46:45
But I did have the internet. And
46:47
the internet, for all intents and purposes, is
46:49
free after you pay the monthly bill. But
46:52
I was using YouTube and Google
46:55
to train to indoor videos and
46:58
whatnot. And I was using
47:01
Google to basically find the
47:04
fundamental basics, and basics at
47:06
best, like nutritional
47:09
kind of things. And
47:11
I'd copy other cyclists
47:13
and professionals and so on.
47:16
Over a two year process, I
47:19
went into various selection processes and then found
47:21
myself in Sydney at the start line, at
47:23
the cycling event at the Invictus Games. And
47:27
it was like, it's a very humbling feeling that,
47:29
knowing that you've worked so hard towards something and
47:31
then you've achieved it. And for me,
47:34
the Invictus Games was my line in the sand between
47:36
that military part of my life and
47:39
the rest of my life. Bloody hell, what
47:41
a story. Yeah. I
47:43
think I've picked up a lot of your time, I'm
47:46
sorry. Yeah, it's so great, Eddie, for sharing
47:48
it. It's so fascinating, it's so
47:51
fascinating. There's like so much to
47:53
dive into. But you are also
47:55
like, it's worth saying, and I say this too, I
47:57
mean, anyone who's ever met you says this.
47:59
same thing which is you are the most positive
48:02
person I've ever
48:05
known. Because in spite of all
48:07
of that and you hearing
48:10
it you're reminded that within
48:13
your positivity there's so much resourcefulness and
48:15
there's so much like want for better
48:17
for yourself and for the people around
48:19
you and it's like to spend time
48:21
with you you feel that but even
48:23
listening to your story just you know
48:25
everybody will have taken that from you
48:28
which is just like an amazing
48:30
like zest for life really. Yeah
48:33
I think because I've seen
48:35
an experience what
48:38
it's like to have absolutely
48:40
nothing but then I
48:42
think I know there's always something
48:44
that can be done by always and I
48:47
think my kind of mental
48:52
outlook if you like is
48:54
probably the wrong connotation
48:56
but is rather
49:00
than focusing on what you haven't got, what you can't
49:02
do, to focus on
49:05
what you can do. I really like that because
49:07
I think humans
49:10
are hardwired to see
49:12
the negatives and
49:14
see the obstacles and
49:18
I think that's so that's a lesson for all
49:20
of us like focus on okay well I can't
49:22
okay yes I can accept that I can't do
49:24
that but what can I do be
49:27
resourceful and focus on what we are able to
49:29
do I think there's a lesson in all of
49:31
us for that. Hearing your
49:34
story that's what you have done
49:36
consistently throughout your life is ever
49:38
since you had that accident. That
49:40
bad day. Yeah that one bad
49:42
day. The day is
49:45
focused on what you can do even
49:48
when you were at you know your real
49:50
rock bottom. Yeah you're like
49:52
there's something to stare still. Yeah there's still
49:54
some like hope. Yeah thank
49:57
you for sharing with us it's really.
50:00
It's so amazing to hear. Yeah, thanks
50:02
for inviting me on. It's been nice
50:04
to meet you, Ali. Yeah. And
50:07
Daisy at the back there. Yeah. Yeah,
50:10
no, thanks for having me on. It's
50:13
been great to catch up here and talk.
50:15
Yeah, I have no doubt you're gonna do some more
50:18
extraordinary things and I look forward to
50:20
hearing about them. And not joining you.
50:23
Yeah, and you know, you did it. Welcome to if you
50:25
like. Thanks,
50:27
Dan. Thank you so much, Dan. Sure,
50:30
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