In the latest episode of shut up and listen , we have MADonovan on the ugly couch - we talk about film , drag , strong female film leads and of all things...surviving conversion therapy to become the whole happy person they are today !! sit back and enjoy !! this one is fun and also from the heart... also if you like what you HEAR and want more : check out my patreon account https://www.patreon.com/shelleynovak cyber barking and busking !