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We have Kevin Burkhardt from Fox

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Media podcast. All

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right, joining me now the voice of

1:25

the NFL on Fox. He

1:28

will be in front of about forty

1:30

million people on Thursday for Giants

1:33

Cowboys first year as the

1:35

lead announcer. Cell phone goes off

1:37

while I do the introduction. Who's calling you? Who's

1:39

calling you? Kevin? Who's calling you? That

1:42

was? I didn't even look. I just hit the cli.

1:45

Could have you could have seen? Who was? Kevin Burkhard

1:47

from Fox? How are you hey?

1:50

Good to see again, man, Good to see

1:52

you. Thanks for doing this big,

1:54

big week with the Giants and

1:57

Cowboys. Fox

1:59

has got to be three old with that

2:01

matchup. I think it

2:03

was cool. Oh look, it's cool

2:05

for me. I mean I'm getting to do a game that you

2:07

know, watching my whole life. But um,

2:10

you know, I think it, you know, growing up with the old school

2:12

NFC East, I think it was cool when the matchup

2:14

came out, and now it's like, holy

2:16

cow, it's a hell of a game. Now it's like a huge

2:19

game. So it would have been fun anyway.

2:21

But this is pretty cool. I mean, it's gonna be a

2:23

monster game, I think so. Um,

2:25

and I'm looking forward to it.

2:28

I'm gonna I I'm sure I can guess the

2:30

answer to this, because whenever I asked any

2:32

broadcaster, they give the same answer. But do

2:35

you think about the fact that it's

2:37

going to be forty million people watching them

2:39

on Thursday? Well,

2:41

I mean we just had twenty nine million people

2:43

watch our Packers Cowboys game. Um,

2:46

and I didn't think about it one time during the game.

2:48

I don't know. I'm sure

2:50

you know you you talked to Joe all the

2:52

time. I'm sure, like, I don't know how you could possibly

2:54

think about that. So here's what I'll

2:56

say to that stuff. Um,

2:59

you look, it's in the back of your head obviously,

3:01

you know a lot of people are watching. But um,

3:04

the whole thing with you know, when Joe left

3:06

and taking over this role and getting

3:09

the Super Bowl is like, oh my gosh, so many people are gonna be watching.

3:11

Yeah, I mean, no ship, I mean you

3:13

know so, Um,

3:15

I like it. I enjoy it. It It doesn't affect

3:17

how I do my job, It really doesn't. I mean, I'm

3:20

I'm excited that we had you know that many

3:22

people for watching Packers Cowboys was a

3:24

hell of the game. But um, yeah,

3:27

it doesn't matter. I just what matters to

3:29

me is that the event is super cool and

3:31

getting to be a part of it. So whether

3:33

it's twenty nine million or you

3:35

know, five thousand or a hundred millions

3:37

for the Super Bowl, whatever it is, I don't know.

3:39

I just can't think about it. Um

3:43

have you have you noticed any

3:45

differences at all being

3:47

the number one guy as opposed to the number

3:50

two guys, which you which you were for years at Fox

3:52

before Joe and Troy went to ESPM.

3:55

You know, I I

3:57

not really you know, Look, I think I

4:00

think the things that you know in the back of your head easy,

4:03

hey, like you're you're the you know, the

4:05

forefront of the network, right, I mean, you know, these America's

4:07

Games of the Week, they're going obviously to monstrous audiences.

4:10

So you are the face along

4:12

with you know, Greg and Aaron and Tom that

4:14

people see every week. So you're representing a lot

4:16

more than just yourself. But I never really thought that

4:18

I wasn't doing that anyway, just because my other

4:21

games weren't going to this many people. But

4:23

to tell you that something has been, you know,

4:25

amazingly remarkably different, Jimmy,

4:28

I don't I don't know. I'm just I'm

4:30

just doing the games man, like having fun.

4:32

You know, it's obviously a new crew. So you

4:34

know when we started, we're getting in and and

4:37

you know, you don't know, look Joe and Troy there for two

4:39

decades, right, Like it's I'm not an idiot,

4:41

you know, you're walking in and people have relationships,

4:44

and so my philosophy was with

4:47

Greg, who I'm close with. So it's kind of nice

4:50

that we're doing it together, like let's just be us, let's

4:52

do the games, like let's be you know, friendly,

4:55

and and you know, we'll see where it goes. And everyone

4:57

has been so awesome welcoming us and know,

5:00

kind of making us feel like we're at

5:02

home. So you know, yeah, it's a totally different

5:04

crew. We have a hell of a lot more crew

5:06

in technology than we did on the other

5:09

crew. Other than that, I think once the

5:11

game started, it's the games. I just I

5:13

don't know, I'm having fun doing it. It's been a blast,

5:15

and yeah, at least these monster audiences.

5:17

But to say like I feel

5:19

like, oh my god, I mean, you know, I think

5:21

the one difference is and again staying with the

5:24

game thing. It's like, you know, we're

5:26

doing Packers Cowboys, and you know we're there at

5:28

Lambo Sunday night, and and you

5:30

know, and then you obviously see the audience. It's just it's

5:33

just so cool to be there, like these monstrous

5:36

games. Like I've had good games before, I've

5:38

had playoff games before, but

5:40

doing these games week in and week out, like

5:42

with these A games that we get, it's it's

5:44

pretty awesome, dude. Really, it's

5:47

really interesting because we

5:50

focus so much on what you just said, the A game

5:53

UM and the A Cruise, but the beat

5:55

Cruise get a playoff game

5:57

and they get a good game almost every

5:59

week, especially with you with the NFC UM

6:02

like this year for example, the NFC is

6:04

so stacked compared to the a f C because you have

6:06

Brady and you have Rogers. Then you have the Giants are good,

6:09

the Cowboys, Uh, the Niners

6:11

are good. A couple of the teams I'm probably missing out

6:13

there. So being on that second

6:15

team is good, but there is

6:17

I feel like the difference between the

6:19

B Team and the eight Team is just I

6:21

talked I've talked about this with Joe and you

6:24

know, Al has this the big Game

6:26

feel the Big Game presents because

6:28

you are that standalone.

6:31

I mean I say this almost every week on the podcast.

6:33

So much attention is focused on Sunday night, Monday

6:35

night Sunday for CBS

6:38

Foxes the money spot that's always the highest

6:40

rated. So there, so the

6:42

B Crew always gets a good game, it seems

6:44

like, but there's still that bump

6:47

to the eight Crew that you know is

6:49

different. Would you agree with that? I would say

6:51

I felt that. I would say I

6:53

felt and yeah, I had a million

6:56

great games the last ten years doing the Second

6:58

Crew on Fox and again playoff games,

7:00

right, So like I was never like, oh my god,

7:02

like any game, any game to me is great.

7:04

Like I was just happy. I was happy as a pig

7:06

and ship just being in the NFL and doing games.

7:08

Right. So the fact that that this got

7:11

this happened is like a whole another thing. But yes,

7:13

it is cool. Like the four o'clock games you

7:15

feel. You know, we did fourty Nights Rams a couple of weeks

7:18

ago, and it was like, this just

7:20

feels big, you know, it feels like a big game, like

7:22

it just it's it's the time slot,

7:24

I think as much as the matchup. Um,

7:27

you know we did Cowboys, Packers. You're talking about

7:29

obviously iconic franchises at

7:31

the Mecca and it's getting dark

7:34

out you know, stick and roll out the

7:36

barrel. I mean, I love that stuff anyway.

7:38

But yeah, I would say you asked me earlier

7:40

about the audience number. I would say you feel

7:43

the presence of the game and the matchup

7:45

and the time slot more than people watching.

7:47

That's at least to me, right, that makes

7:49

sense. That makes sense. What tell

7:52

me where you were, what you were doing when

7:55

you first found out Joe

7:58

Buck was leaving and that position was

8:00

open Because you may not

8:03

say it, but I would assume when you hear that position

8:05

it's open, your first thought is, oh,

8:07

well, um, number two,

8:09

maybe I become a number one. So

8:11

I'm just curious, like, what, what

8:14

you know, what you went through with that whole

8:16

thing. I all

8:19

right, so I don't I'm trying to think, like obviously,

8:21

you know, when this stuff started happening and like

8:23

the you know, when Troy left and then the whisper

8:25

started, I just didn't believe it. And like,

8:28

I'm friends with Joe. I love Joe, um,

8:30

you know, and I think there's a lot of mutual

8:33

respect there, like we always got along great. So I

8:35

never was like, oh, let me text

8:37

him and see if easily. You know, I

8:40

can't do that. I just left it alone, like

8:42

I don't know. I couldn't get caught up in that stuff.

8:44

You know. Of course, I had a million friends asked me

8:46

if I'm like, dude, like I mean, I

8:48

I still even though like some of the stuff

8:51

was out there, I just was like, i'll believe what I don't.

8:53

I just can't believe Fox

8:55

Without Joe. I just had a hard time. So

8:58

I never talked to him during it. I

9:00

never really let myself get

9:02

lost in that like whatever, if you know,

9:04

I'm totally happy doing what I'm doing. And

9:07

then, um, when it happened, he

9:09

called me, and uh, he

9:11

was great. You know, we talked and he's like, man,

9:13

you know I hope you get it, and it was just so I

9:16

was super happy for him. But for him to think about

9:18

calling me like when that happened, like

9:21

who does like it was just so cool. It was just so

9:23

nice and we had a great conversation and he was just pumping

9:26

me up, and I just I really appreciated it, you know, because

9:28

I think he did the same thing too,

9:30

you know, people in our front office. It's just you know,

9:33

you know, Kevin's good. He could he could

9:35

handle it, and that meant a lot. So

9:38

when he called me, I was in trying

9:41

to think and

9:43

try. I don't remember exactly where I was. I just

9:45

remember that he called me like, like

9:47

right right as it was happening. And that was the first

9:49

time that i'd really heard from you, heard from

9:51

the source, from the source himself. I'm

9:53

glad I asked you that question. I was expecting you to say,

9:55

like you found out from and Andrew Marsha and tweet

9:58

or something like that. So you

10:00

found out from Joe calling it. It's a good nugget right there.

10:02

It was cool. It was cool, um,

10:06

and you're I would assume your approach and doing the

10:08

game prep work and you have your meetings with the

10:10

teams. I mean, none of that's different. Right, You're doing

10:12

the same thing you've always did. Right, My

10:14

dog's got crazy, that's all right. What is

10:16

your dog's name? My dog's name

10:18

is Laura. She's a little uh,

10:21

she's she's if she comes back, I'll show you.

10:23

Okay, I was I just wonder if it has a spell. It

10:25

seems like every sports person there dog has a sports

10:28

name somehow. So no, when we rescued

10:31

her years ago, I'm a son named or after

10:33

Lara Croft from Tomb Writer for so

10:35

that's it. That's there's no other that.

10:38

So now now I totally forgot the question. I'm

10:40

sorry about just in prep

10:42

and just in prep work and

10:45

you know that's the I mean, that's the I I

10:47

you know, I you know when when this whole thing

10:49

happened, obviously, like you know, look,

10:52

you know that as time goes

10:54

on, people get used to being in the seed and there's

10:56

more maybe more things you gotta do, maybe more

10:59

times you get to do some things that are involved

11:01

in promotion or sales or just things

11:03

that you you know that obviously the guy

11:06

who does the A game gets pulled into. But like I'm

11:09

still like I told myself

11:11

like, Okay, I'm gonna do this the

11:14

way that I've always done it, right, Like they put me in

11:16

this spot thinking that I'm doing a good job.

11:18

I have done a good job the last nine years. So

11:20

I'm just gonna keep everything the same. I

11:22

really haven't changed anything in terms of prep or

11:24

how we go about my business or hopefully the way

11:26

that you know, I treat people. I just I'm

11:29

just keeping it the same way until somebody

11:31

tells me differently. Yeah, it wouldn't make sense

11:33

to change it because you got moved up to the

11:35

number one spot because they like what you do, so I

11:37

change it. Yeah, it's kind of its kind of sense,

11:40

Yeah, kind of. I guess

11:43

what what is feedback?

11:45

Bit like? Have you noticed a lot more feedback

11:47

to your games? Whether positive and you know, our

11:50

fans, like you know, Joe is always saying

11:52

and all the everyone says they, you know, fans think

11:54

you hate their team. Has

11:57

that increased? Has it been mostly positive?

11:59

What's been feedback? I'm

12:02

sure you don't check Twitter because anyone who's

12:04

played by play person who has brain

12:06

should not check Twitter. Yeah,

12:09

you know, I I don't. I had to look

12:11

if you think I'm going on Twitter during a game or after

12:13

game. I'm not. I mean I'll go through

12:15

something, you know, during the weeks, sometimes later in the week and

12:17

just see and and I

12:19

used to respond a lot more entertain because I actually I

12:21

actually like Twitter, and I like a lot of responses.

12:24

But this, you know, I just I can't waste

12:26

my time, I get involved in some of the negative stuff.

12:28

So I think it's probably the same. There's always

12:30

people who say you suck, you're rooting for this team, or

12:32

God, you're rooting for the Cowboys, are rooting for the pack,

12:35

Like I got news for you, And I know you've

12:37

heard this from mother before. I'm rooting for a good game.

12:39

That that is what I am. I'm rooting

12:42

for drama in the fourth quarter, that's

12:44

what I'm rooting for. So I don't think it's been really any

12:46

different. I think, look when I got

12:49

this, I think it's it's just like anything else. Like the

12:51

more, you know, maybe people have seen

12:53

me before in NFL, maybe people see me in the World

12:55

Series. I'm sure there's people like who the hell is

12:57

this guy in for Joe and Troy at some point,

12:59

But you know, I guess what you know ten weeks in

13:01

and then we're doing Thanksgiving and then we're doing playoffs.

13:04

Like people figure out that, you know,

13:06

Greg and I are the people that are doing the games now,

13:08

and so it just takes some time. Whether they like

13:10

me or not, I can't control that, but I

13:13

could never control that, So I don't think

13:15

it's really much different. I think it's the same, the

13:18

same stuff as it always. People are gonna like you great

13:20

if they don't, I can't really help that.

13:22

And it worked out nicely that you got bumped up

13:25

with Greg Olsen because you don't have to

13:27

now worry about a new partner and new

13:29

chemistry. And you know, you guys have worked together

13:31

for a couple of years now, so that

13:33

had to be nice just to keep the same

13:36

analysts with you. You know, it was

13:38

to be completely fair. I mean, you know work,

13:40

I've worked with plenty of new people for baseball and football,

13:43

and it's you know, it takes work to build chemistry.

13:45

It's not easy, right, it doesn't come overnight.

13:47

So getting you to do that with Greg, who I

13:49

really love and respect. I've known him

13:52

forever, Yeah, that was

13:54

great, you know, because the thing is as great

13:56

is we knew we had chemistry already, like we knew we

13:58

knew each other really really well. We worked on you to gain.

14:00

Like I said, I've known him since he was a kid, So

14:03

you know, having that already in the bank,

14:05

when you know you're gonna have all these eyeballs on you

14:07

and not having to work on that, just work

14:09

on a craft and then you know, work with the new

14:11

crew and getting used to each other. That

14:14

was That was a relief film

14:16

most in some ways, you know, it's because it's just one thing

14:18

you take off the table. So yeah,

14:21

it's been great. Why do you

14:23

think makes Greg so good at

14:25

being an analyst? I

14:28

think he sees the game so

14:31

well, and I just think he there are so

14:33

many times during a game when I look over I'm like, oh,

14:35

that's interesting or I didn't know that, or

14:38

you know, you know he first of all,

14:40

I think he's excellent at diagramming

14:42

plays and what's happened or why this worked

14:44

or why this didn't work. Like there's so many times I'm

14:46

like, oh, that's really cool. Um, and then

14:48

it's just like he says things

14:50

and he sees things like, um, you know, we're

14:53

again. I keep referencing the Packers Dallas

14:55

game. But that's the game. It's in my head because we just did, you

14:58

know, let's play Christian Watson. He

15:00

got discombobulated and he couldn't find

15:02

the ball, and Greg He's like, you know, he always taught look

15:04

up, not back. When you look back, you

15:07

lose set everything. You have to look up. And I was like, that

15:10

was an interesting I never thought of that makes

15:12

complete sense, but I never thought about that. So I just

15:14

think he's I think he's a great teacher.

15:17

I think he's fun. He's not He doesn't take himself

15:19

seriously at all. You know, there was a moment last

15:21

year where we're doing a Christmas

15:24

game on NFL Network or Christmas maybe

15:26

it's a twenty. It was a couple of days for Christmas and

15:29

we come on camera and he sat

15:31

on the cough button and he's talking

15:33

and I'm not here, and I'm like, what is why

15:35

am I not hearing? On my look and his you know, his asses

15:38

on the big box that has a cough button. I was like, dude,

15:40

and we just have fun. Like he doesn't take

15:42

it. He takes the job seriously,

15:44

but he doesn't take himself seriously. And I just don't.

15:46

I don't think there's enough for that. Like, I don't know, I

15:49

think he's great. I love that you

15:51

gave me the answer you gave me, because I do

15:53

think he's really really

15:55

good. He's unbelievable at the

15:57

EXS and O stuff. He's really really good at

15:59

that. I feel as a viewer and someone's you want to know

16:01

about to play, he's great with the XS and

16:03

OS stuff. Um

16:06

So, I I've had one criticism of Greg,

16:08

but I haven't of almost every announcer. So

16:10

if you want to pass this a long time, just don't be afraid

16:12

to rip the refs. Don't cover

16:14

for the refs. Too many announcers cover the

16:17

refs are terrible. Every announcer

16:19

says, Oh, they do a great job. They have the hardest job in the

16:21

world. When they blow a call, you pounding

16:24

them. It's enough. The other

16:26

thing is we really don't have to do it because we got Pereira.

16:28

So Mike is just like, yeah, you

16:30

know, Mike will do it for us. He just said that. I

16:33

didn't see that, so it's

16:35

almost like he takes it off our plate. Yeah,

16:37

that's the only thing I just And I think

16:40

it's because he's still relatively new.

16:42

I think the guys who have done it forever

16:44

can get away with bashing the refs a little

16:46

more without worrying about if like you know, Roger

16:48

Goodell at the front office, like gives him a phone call or

16:50

something. You know what, I think, I don't. I don't know. I don't

16:53

think any of us are thinking about that. I mean, that's

16:55

never happened. But I think I

16:57

think what we forget about Greg too? He's so good. He

16:59

he's just he's still like a

17:02

you know, a baby giraffe, like and

17:06

he's just barely done television. Like it's like, people,

17:08

do you think he's been around for thirty years? Like he

17:10

just started TV last year. So I

17:13

will tell him as he gets it, you know, I will tell

17:15

him to you know, m f a referee for

17:17

the season, just say this, like this loser has

17:19

a podcast? Who wants you to kill the reps? That's all?

17:22

Um. Now you are in. Now,

17:25

I'm curious if you think it's awkward. I think you're in

17:27

like this super awkward thing here

17:29

where you've got Brady waiting in the wings. Maybe

17:31

awkward it's not the right word because that I feel

17:33

like awkward has a negative connotation. It's not negative,

17:36

but it's a little bizarre

17:38

that you get bumped up with Greg

17:40

Olsen. It comes out Brady is gonna be

17:42

an analyst for ten years. Um.

17:47

Now he's playing obviously, and you're doing

17:49

your thing with Greg. So do

17:51

you think about the Brady thing and potentially

17:53

working with him? Is there any

17:56

communication with Tom? Like what is

17:58

that whole deal at this point? Yeah,

18:01

so multiple layers to this. Um,

18:04

I don't even remotely think about it

18:06

right now, um, and I can't.

18:08

Like, so when this all went down, and give you a little

18:10

backstory, it all went down obviously, and you

18:13

know, yeah, it's how you know with Greg and like

18:15

you know, the terms of you know, whenever Tom's

18:17

done playing or whatever the situation

18:20

is. And so you

18:22

know, um, texted with Tom and

18:24

you know that the basic you know, text

18:26

and back and forth. And then that was it, Like I

18:29

said to myself, and I can't think about that

18:31

and until and if it happens right

18:33

like I'm I can't. I got too much

18:35

of my own plate. And I also have so much

18:37

love and respect for Greg. And then you

18:40

know, Greg and I talked about it openly for

18:42

a while and like, you know, our thing is just like,

18:45

let's just enjoy the hell out of this ride

18:47

and you know, we'll see how long it goes and where

18:49

it goes, like you just you don't we don't know what tomorrow is.

18:51

So like I know that sounds cliche, but it's

18:53

truthfully what happened. And then you know, the only

18:56

next thing was we obviously

18:58

have a lot of tom games. Is when

19:00

we had them the first time. Both

19:03

guys were awesome, like you know, we're in the

19:05

production meeting and Greg

19:07

just diffuse the whole situation and Brady

19:09

was great busting busting balls

19:12

and it was just it was fun, like

19:14

they made you share. Can you share how Greg

19:16

broke the ice there? What went

19:19

down? Did you have a specific thing he said, I'll

19:21

tell you that. I can tell you one thing on some of

19:23

the other stuff I'll leave with us. But like it was, you know,

19:26

just when we came on, Um,

19:28

you know, when they know each other when

19:30

we came when we came on, we're

19:33

just shooting the shooting the ship at first, and like

19:35

you usually do before you actually start these meetings,

19:37

and uh, Greg said,

19:39

and hopefully doesn't mind me saying this, but Greg said,

19:41

Tom, I gotta tell you this TV thing sucks.

19:44

It's just it's so. But

19:47

it was great. We were dying, dying

19:49

laughing, and it was just it was fun.

19:52

You know. We had a good back and forth. So

19:55

you know, and Tom seems like the type of person

19:57

has a sense hum that would appreciate that kind

19:59

of comment. He absolutely did, and

20:01

he was great, like busting chops back. And

20:04

you know, I just think I haven't thought

20:06

about it for one single second since

20:08

the news broke. I just can't. Like I

20:10

said, he can't either, by the way.

20:12

So yeah, that's that's the story.

20:15

I think about it week to week because for me, it's going to

20:17

be content. So I'm like, and the funny thing

20:19

with Brady. And the funny thing with Brady is like, you

20:21

know, it started out where it was like, you

20:23

know, they were playing playing

20:25

badly. He looked miserable,

20:27

and I'm like, Okay, well he's definitely retiring this year. He'll

20:29

be at Fox next year. I gotta get him on the podcast. Maybe

20:32

you know all this stuff. Then it's you

20:34

know, then the the personal stuff

20:36

happens, You're like, well, now, who knows, maybe he'll play. Now

20:39

they win two games, it's like, oh, he's gonna play now

20:41

a couple, Like it's such a rollercoast with him,

20:43

you just never know what's gonna happen. So it makes sense

20:45

for you not to think about it, because who the hell knows what he's gonna

20:47

do it. You know, he's he's one of these guys I think.

20:49

You know, you're not gonna be able to predict, that's for sure. Yeah,

20:52

I can't. I just can't you know where

20:55

it goes in the future. I do think what's

20:57

fascinating from your standpoint you mentioned I

20:59

was gonna ask it as a separate but like the fact

21:01

that you do Bucks games and have these meetings

21:03

with him, and you know, it's like, oh,

21:06

may see you next year, may see in two years, may see in

21:08

five years. You know, Like it's it's just like everything

21:10

else. So like it's like, you know, people are you know, like

21:12

my you know friends or people that I meet, Like, you

21:14

know, how do you not like root for a team or

21:16

whatever, because you know, obviously you grew up, you know, rooting for

21:18

teams. I'm sports nut. That's why I got into this.

21:20

Like you just don't think about it, Like you know, there's

21:23

never been one time when you go into a game and like

21:26

I don't know, it just doesn't enter your mind. Like I'm sure

21:28

most people don't believe that, but I believed

21:30

enter my mind. I believe you. I believe.

21:33

Um, what do you think about now?

21:36

You're gonna be working Thanksgiving we mentioned,

21:38

and you're gonna be working Christmas Day. You'll

21:40

have packers at Dolphins,

21:42

which will be decent

21:45

because the packers are out of it. But I love Rogers,

21:47

but the dolphins are hot to Uh but what

21:49

about like working those holidays not being with family?

21:52

Is that? Like do you care? What's that like

21:54

for you? Because some people you know, you know

21:56

what Jim like I I it

21:59

is, it is what it is, right, Like it's like you're

22:01

if you're getting if you're thinking of working not

22:03

you know, having weekends and holidays off, you're probably

22:05

not in the right field. Um, you know,

22:07

my family is gonna come to Dallas. Um.

22:09

I did Cowboys radio for a couple of years and

22:11

like the had a national radio and network for Compass.

22:14

So we spend Thanksgivings in Dallas

22:16

before and we had a great time. You just you

22:18

know, when you're doing this, like holidays and

22:20

birthdays and things are not they

22:23

don't have to be like on the day, right,

22:25

Like they don't have to be on the day. Um, I

22:27

don't think I've ever worked Christmas before, work Christmas

22:29

Eve before. That would be a weird one. So I don't know what I'm doing

22:31

yet family wise for that. Um, you

22:33

know, and I love Christmas, So the biggest problem.

22:36

Ye see, Like if you love Christmas, here's the problem

22:38

you're gonna have. It's not that you're working on Christmas. You're gonna

22:40

be in Miami for Christmas. You don't want

22:42

it to be like seventies so you want a little twenty

22:45

degree cloud. Yes, no, like

22:47

that's gonna be the weird thing more than anything. So

22:50

I will say, if I still live in

22:53

Jersey, I would have a really

22:55

hard time with it because like cold. But

22:57

I've been in California now for a decade

22:59

and it's like, you know, Christmas

23:01

Day is sixty five degrees. So I'm with

23:03

you. You feel like you need a little cold

23:05

weather, a little flurries and all that

23:08

that. It might it still might be a little weird.

23:10

You know. Maybe I'll throw on a standard cap. Everything will be

23:12

fine. A couple more things on football,

23:14

then I want to ask you a couple of things about baseball, because

23:16

obviously you do the studio for Fox.

23:19

Um it is it's

23:22

it was amazing everything that happened in the off season

23:24

with all of the announcers switching and you getting promoted.

23:27

It just seems and you know we talked about

23:29

the Brady thing another layer in all

23:31

this. You get bumped up to the eight crew with Greg

23:34

and it's the year Fox has the Super Bowl. Do

23:37

you feel any pressure with that at all?

23:39

And not because of the viewership number,

23:41

but just I mean, the super Bowl has become a holiday in

23:43

this country. It is whether

23:46

you know, I don't know if broadcasters want to admit

23:48

you're calling a super Bowl it's a big freaking deal.

23:51

Any pressure, or you're looking forward to it

23:53

and you don't even care about pressure? What about that?

23:56

It's a I mean, it's a huge deal. It's

23:59

Look, I think for me, there's a couple of things. It's it's

24:02

historic in terms of the amount

24:04

of people that have done it in the world, right,

24:06

I mean, there's been it's either

24:09

a ten or eleven um play by

24:11

play announcers that have called

24:13

the Super Bowl before. So, I mean just being

24:16

in that company is amazing to

24:18

me, and I'm fortunate to be there, So that's number one.

24:21

Yeah, I'm super jack to do the

24:23

freaking super Bowl. I mean it's like you know, at

24:25

super Bowl parties every year growing up as as a little

24:27

kid, you know, and then when I get older, had my own

24:30

place that like, you know, the super Bowl was

24:33

the thing, and um,

24:35

you know, I'm not nervous. I'm excited. I

24:37

mean when we get there, like that week of

24:40

I'm sure there'll be some nerves, but like it, I

24:42

don't know, I feel like having some nerves is a good

24:44

thing, you know, like, um, I

24:46

remember years ago, Um,

24:48

like I could, I like it. I'll channel it, like

24:50

you know. Um, And I can't be like nervous

24:53

about you know, screwing up or whatever. I just gotta

24:55

do the game like the way I always do the game. You know, I

24:57

never want to screw up. Every every once in a while it happens.

25:00

Like the first time I did a playoff game,

25:02

which was my first year at Fox. We're

25:05

in Seattle and uh,

25:07

you know, game started to play, you

25:09

know, place going nuts, Legion of Boom to play.

25:12

It was crazy, you know, We're taking in and

25:14

directors taking shots and I'm just kind

25:16

of taking it in and I'm laying out and

25:19

he's kind of like he's kind of like

25:21

go because I was kind of like zone and

25:23

I was like, oh, this is awesome. It's like, oh, hey, all

25:25

right, here we go. I'm

25:28

sure it'll be like just like that moment

25:30

of you know, maybe an hour before

25:32

maybe kick off, like holy shit,

25:35

it's actually doing the Super Bowl.

25:37

But like I'm just I'm excited, man,

25:39

Like, yeah, it'll be cool. Now

25:41

you've been doing this for a long time, which again

25:44

when you got bumped up when Joe left from B to A.

25:46

I mean, it's it's not like the biggest deal in

25:48

the world because, like you said, you've been doing this a long time. Everyone

25:51

thinks you're great. It's not. But I'm just

25:53

curious, when you do make

25:55

that move, do you reach out to you

25:57

know, I don't know our or Tariko or anyone

25:59

for advice, so you don't you don't really need

26:01

advice at this point, Where did you seek any

26:05

you know, I I just talked to people in general,

26:07

but I didn't when that happened, like I didn't,

26:09

um, you know, I didn't reach out

26:12

and and you know, take a bunch of notes and

26:14

call people like. So I did talk to Joe

26:16

um down the road, not like

26:19

right when it happened, but before the season

26:21

I go. We talked for a while just on just

26:23

different stuff, um, you know,

26:26

handling everything and just some of the you know, certain

26:28

things. So I had a long conversation with him,

26:30

which was great. Um, you know, I

26:32

text some of the other guys here and there. Um,

26:35

But I I don't know. I think

26:37

it's just to me.

26:40

I I felt like I just needed

26:42

to keep doing what I was doing. It's

26:44

not to say that I have to say that I can't learn.

26:46

It's not to say that I'm not looking to learn. But

26:49

I feel like the more that I put

26:51

in my head of like Okay, I gotta do this, gotta do

26:53

this, what about this, then I would just mess

26:55

me out. So I

26:57

decided to talk with Joe. I just text or

26:59

geta with you know, Tariko or

27:01

anybody else and and just you know, in in

27:04

other announcers just in

27:06

general. But I didn't have like multiple

27:08

phone calls of how to do a Super

27:10

Bowl. I know how those guys have done it.

27:12

I've watched them all. Um, I'm not

27:14

trying to be there. I can't be them. They've done it. They've been

27:16

in that seat for a long time. So maybe when

27:18

we get closer, like when we get closer to that week or

27:20

getting the playoffs, I might revisit it, but

27:24

no other than Joe. That's I

27:26

kind of left it at that now. When

27:28

I first reached out to you to come

27:30

on the pod, it was because I

27:33

was in a sports bar on a

27:35

couple of Sundays ago and unfortunately,

27:38

well I shouldn't say unfortunately because they're decent now, but in

27:40

the sports bars here I'm in New York, Long Island,

27:42

they have they sound usually on the Jetter Giant game,

27:44

so I didn't wasn't able to hear you. But

27:46

at one point I looked up to the screen and you

27:48

were in Detroit calling the Packers

27:51

Lions game at one o'clock. And

27:54

I had seen you like ten hours earlier doing

27:57

the game six World Series ceremony

27:59

in Houston, and I said, now, how the hell

28:01

did he pull this off? And like, I know, this is a big like

28:03

Chrisma Dog Grisso thing, and I'm not that extreme

28:05

with it, but I was like, this is a really

28:07

interesting broadcasting. Sorry, tell me, like the

28:10

logistics of what you did from the Game

28:12

six World Series Final to

28:14

then being in Detroit for the Packers

28:16

Lions game. All right, Beggy, so you're

28:20

you got the Game six? Uh,

28:22

that's love it too, he loved.

28:24

He went. He went absolutely nuts

28:28

last week with Andrew Catalan and the Buffalo

28:30

Cleveland game getting moved. He spent

28:32

like his whole show detailing Andrew

28:34

Catalan's travel and had

28:37

Andrew he had on a weatherman

28:39

to talk about the weather in Buffalo, and he had

28:41

Catalan on and Catalan

28:43

hit told this was actually an interesting thing, Catalan

28:46

told Catalan traveled separately, so

28:48

Catalan does the games with James Lofton

28:51

and their sideline reporter Amanda Renner.

28:53

And he said they were flying

28:56

from San Diego to Buffalo, with a

28:58

stop over or change over in Detroit

29:01

where the game got moved to. But the

29:03

announcement that the game was gonna be in Detroit was until

29:06

after they had their stopover, So they flew all the way

29:08

from San Diego to Buffalo, stop over

29:10

in Detroit, got to Buffalo, then had to drive to

29:12

Detroit where they were for the stopover. Dog's

29:15

head was about to explode when Catalan told

29:17

him this story. That's unbelievable.

29:19

That's a good one, and had to drive back

29:21

so he couldn't get a flight back. Catalan

29:24

did the interview with Rousseau driving from Detroit

29:26

from Buffalo to Detroit, and Dog was

29:28

yelling at him about what route

29:30

he was taking. Was he driving through

29:33

the blizzard? Wasn't he driving through? It

29:35

did not happen at that time. I think it didn't happen

29:37

yet. It was because this was the day, but it was

29:39

on the Thursday when they moved the game, so the blizzard

29:41

hadn't started yet. I didn't hear

29:44

this with Dog, but I almost feel like I need to call

29:46

Andrew after this because I want to hear myself you should,

29:49

you should do this?

29:52

Was Dog was questioning Catalan

29:54

like someone on like the January sixth hearings,

29:57

like he was badgering

29:59

him to no end about why are you doing this? Why

30:01

don't you get a connecting? Why it was? And

30:03

I'm an idiot because I'm listening to it and I love every

30:06

minute. I'm like, what's wrong with me that I love that this guy's

30:08

a lunatic with travel stuff? And then I'm asking you about

30:10

being from in Houston and Green Bay in a twelve hours

30:12

spans up. I was,

30:16

you know, it's funny. I get cheapest talking about it. It's not like

30:18

I'm like digging ditches here. I mean I did,

30:21

but it's just interesting. He has nothing to do with you know.

30:25

It was just what you did. It was a super fun

30:27

month, Like it was really cool to be involved in,

30:29

like all the playoff baseball. Uh

30:32

and I missed. I missed a couple

30:34

games just because stuff was on Sunday. But basically,

30:37

you know, they shuttled me back and forth so I would do

30:39

you know, Niners Chief, so

30:41

then go do NLCS. And it was

30:43

fun. I mean, the the only thing that

30:46

sucked is at the end, I know because I talked

30:48

to you that week, is that I got sick. Like I

30:50

guess just you know, after a while, you're on eight thousand

30:52

planes and around everybody's six. So I

30:55

was, I was, I was starting

30:57

to get six Saturday games six. I just

30:59

felt it, like you know, just felt it coming on

31:01

and like whatever, I don't care about that. But it's always

31:04

the voice I've had, Like when I was younger,

31:06

I had like multiple signus surgeries that I always

31:08

get, Like when I get it, it's like always a whole thing.

31:10

So like that's what worries me. I could care

31:12

less how I feel like, you know, you always worried

31:14

about you don't want to lose your voice for the for the game,

31:17

right, So um,

31:19

you know I did the thing. I did the we

31:23

did the postgame show and

31:25

then shot up and then they had us on a plane

31:27

and I got to Detroit. I guess it was I

31:30

guess it was three am maybe

31:34

something like that when we when we got

31:36

to the land and I got to the hotel and then

31:39

you know, it got a little long

31:41

nappen basically got up

31:43

showered and then I woke up. I was like, oh man, I just

31:45

felt it like all kind of like uh

31:47

but I was okay. So you know, woke up,

31:50

had a giant in bout a coffee, took a steaming hot

31:52

shower, and I got to the game later than

31:54

normal, and they all like the crew was awesome. They all

31:56

did like all these things for me like to kind of, I

31:59

mean, to the point, this is how good it is? All

32:01

right? Like Casey Garland who's r B A like

32:03

had the hotel, like I

32:05

got my suit there and pressed the suit so

32:07

literally I woke up and my suit was in my closet.

32:09

Usually I bring it myself and iron it myself. So

32:11

I literally woke up. I ordered a coffee, steaming

32:14

hot shower, the suit was already

32:16

there, put it on, grabbed the coffee out the door, and go to

32:19

the game. And then got to the game, talked with Greg

32:21

about stuff. Didn't even go to the field that day. Usually

32:23

we're always down in the field. I just needed

32:25

the extra Did you feel it again? And

32:27

I'm not this is not Kevin. This is me asking

32:29

Kevin a question. He's not saying he's where he has it. Incredibly

32:32

tough job, But is it hard to call a

32:35

game and be up energetic

32:37

your voice of three hours when you've gotten two or three

32:39

hours of sleep? I

32:41

did it feel like a normal game or did it feel different

32:44

because you had that? You

32:46

know? It felt like a normal game? I I was, I

32:48

mean, I I was hopped up on caffeine. It felt

32:50

like because like you just like locked in, like your laser

32:53

focused in once it starts you like this after

32:56

the game, flying back to l A,

32:58

I was dead. That

33:00

makes sense, and like that was the end of the World

33:02

series. So like Monday and Monday,

33:05

I got sick, like full on sick, and like Monday

33:07

I was just like this, like, I think it just you kind of

33:09

like you zone out and you focused anyr power through.

33:11

And then Monday I was just like and then I and then

33:13

I'm the idiot who message texted you about coming on

33:15

the podcast. You were probably like, this asshole's texted me.

33:17

Now I'm sick as a dog

33:20

hang out, But I was like, man, I don't think so.

33:24

Yeah. It was that. It was you know, you know, it was

33:26

so cool. I had so many people like again, like

33:28

I'm sheep just talking about because it's not like, oh my god, you're

33:30

working so hard, but it's so

33:32

freaking awesome to be like handing out the trophy

33:35

of the World Series and then twelve

33:37

hours later you're doing an NFL game. It was

33:39

just fun. It was I'm telling you. When I looked up

33:41

at the TV at the sports when I said that, I'm

33:44

like, what what, what? What the hell

33:46

is going on? What I think you would have had

33:48

the week off? Um? I enjoyed

33:50

it. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean listen,

33:53

this is when the NFL season is here. As an

33:55

NFL announcer, you did this? Is it? You gotta go. Um,

33:59

I may have asked you this, but for and this has absolutely nothing

34:01

to do with Joe Davis or Fox or anything.

34:03

I'm just here. Did you do the studio?

34:06

Obviously you're a great NFL play by play guy?

34:08

Did you ever want to do baseball

34:10

play by play? It was why

34:12

studio? Why did you ever want

34:15

to do the games? Or you never had that desire for baseball?

34:18

You know, the Mets. You obviously a sideline

34:20

reporter, just for anyone around the country doesn't know. So

34:23

I've never heard you actually do the games. I think you've

34:25

filled in obviously here and then yeah,

34:27

I've done games. I've done game for Fox. I filled

34:29

in, you know, not a lot, but I filled in for Gary Cohen

34:32

on the Mets over over time. UM,

34:35

I really like the

34:37

difference, I really, you know. So I love doing

34:40

NFL play by play, but I love

34:42

doing the studio for baseball because it's so different.

34:44

And I've always taken a lot of pride in being persatile.

34:47

Like people back in the day, we're like, oh,

34:49

you gotta pick one thing, you know, and I never

34:51

wanted to pick one thing. So I actually

34:53

have always really enjoyed, you

34:56

know, doing playby play for NFL

34:58

and then doing studio and point honestly,

35:00

you know, the Fox

35:03

supports it so much and they've you

35:05

know, they've they've pumped up our show and made our show

35:07

like a great thing, and so I

35:09

love it. Um you know, and the

35:12

cool thing you mentioned, Joe Davis,

35:14

that is umu when

35:17

we both found out at the same time we're both

35:19

doing the PAC twelfth Tournament and our

35:21

boss flew out and and kind of told

35:24

us separately, but the same day like what was going

35:26

on, and it was really cool, like we

35:28

that night, like we popped a bottle champagne

35:31

together, and I think it was kind of like it was a cool like

35:33

brothership moment, like just really

35:35

happy for the other guy, and like, you know, so,

35:37

um the play by play stuff never

35:39

crossed my mind. I really yea, yeah, I didn't mean it

35:41

is like why why didn't you take over from

35:44

I didn't mean it that way at all. I just meant you've done

35:46

students, Like yeah, well, because

35:48

you do basics, you do NFL play by play,

35:50

you know That's why I just I do

35:52

I like it, but I like doing the studio, and I like,

35:55

if I'm being honest, I like NFL play by played

35:57

better. Yeah, I mean I would

35:59

imagine especially. I mean, well,

36:03

what's interesting is you know, I just I just had buck

36:05

on And he said when I asked him

36:07

about the negative feedback

36:09

from fans, he said it was all baseball, he said football.

36:12

He really never had a problem with the

36:14

negative feedback. He really came from baseball.

36:17

And I've been trying in my head since he's told

36:19

to me, I would think the NFL fan

36:22

is the lunatic fan, you

36:24

know it, just so

36:27

I know why that is, because obviously

36:29

I did regional TV baseball

36:33

with NFL. You have your favorites, and you

36:35

have people who you like more than others, Like I know when I

36:37

was a fan, Like I know there are people

36:39

that I liked here and on the game that I wanted to

36:41

watch more than others. It's just like every like you

36:43

know, do you like red or green better? Like it's you know,

36:45

like everything else. But I

36:48

don't remember being like, oh my god, I hate

36:50

this person. Um. With baseball,

36:53

you watch your local people every

36:55

single day for five

36:57

months and then for the postseason here

37:00

we come parachuting in and like get used to the

37:02

new voices for the next week two weeks month

37:04

whatever it is. So it's like you're like, I want

37:06

my own, my own guys. So it's

37:08

like there's that regional affiliation.

37:11

Reality TV love that you're you know, we're

37:13

in people's living rooms every night for

37:16

six months and then all of a sudden you go to the playoffs and it's like, wait,

37:18

it's so many different that's why

37:20

y yeah, let's

37:22

uh, let's wrap up with this. As you mentioned the

37:24

regional versus local baseball. Obviously

37:27

my how I first ever

37:29

discovered Kevin Burkhardt was you doing Met

37:31

games? Sideline reporter did a great job

37:34

with that, and

37:36

the Mets have an excellent, excellent local

37:38

crew. Here s n Y TV with Gary

37:40

Cohen, Ron Darrn, Keith Hernandez. Do you have any

37:43

Keith Hernandez stories from working with him

37:45

back in the day. I mean, he is you

37:47

know, there are characters in broadcasting,

37:50

and you know, again mostly it's a national level

37:52

I'm thinking of like the Bill Walton's and

37:54

and you know, but locally there

37:56

are characters we have. We're lucky in New York

37:58

because we have Sterling. But Ether Hernandez

38:00

is an old timer, an absolute old timer.

38:03

So I would imagine you must have

38:06

a couple of stories about working with Keith

38:08

back in the day. He

38:10

he is an ald timer.

38:12

He is. He is just like you see him on the

38:14

air. He's exactly like it off the air, and it is

38:16

beautiful. Most of the key stories I can't

38:19

share. Um.

38:21

He would routinely like open

38:23

up my mic when I was on a sideline and make me laugh,

38:25

like all the time. He would just say something

38:28

that would be funny as hell and pee

38:30

and my pants. There's there's

38:32

so many things with Keith. I mean, one of my favorites

38:35

with him is you know, and we we you know,

38:37

obviously spent a lot of time together. He's he's

38:39

a close friend. I love when

38:41

you know, we'd always asked him Seinfeld stories, of

38:43

course, and I think he's told this publicly,

38:45

but I love. I love when he talks about,

38:48

uh, the kissing scene with

38:50

Elaine, because he's like, keV, I

38:53

mess that scene up, but purposely, you know, I wanted

38:55

to do it over and over. Funny

38:59

that is, I could see him doing that.

39:02

It's not just like you did it, I e did it on action.

39:04

Oh no, we need this or can you do this?

39:06

It? Really I could see him saying like, oh,

39:08

you know, I gotta miss this up so I could do the kissing scene. Know,

39:10

we're like, y, I freaking

39:13

I love that whole group, those guys, I'm so

39:15

close with them. Um yeah,

39:17

they're they're they're great. Since you

39:19

mentioned Seinfeld, I'm gonna I'm

39:21

gonna share a little secret

39:23

here for the listeners. We're taping this on Friday,

39:25

November eight so I can enjoy

39:28

my Thanksgiving and my producer Shelby can enjoy

39:30

his Thanksgiving. So we're tape is a little ahead of time,

39:32

which I never do, but this is a good case

39:34

to do it. So on the day we're taping this, Friday,

39:36

November eighteenth. Today is the thirtieth

39:39

anniversary of the Contest

39:41

episode. I bring that up

39:43

for two reasons. One, I

39:46

cannot believe it's been thirty Like,

39:48

you know, every day you do that whole like, oh, I feel

39:51

old today when you see this this you know, this song

39:53

that came out thirty years since

39:55

that episode is frightening in terms

39:57

of like how old I feel from that. But

39:59

I went because I put it, put the clip

40:01

in my column, and I went and watched that opening

40:03

scene. I don't know how

40:06

Jason Alexander didn't win Emmy's every

40:08

single year. He only he never won. It's

40:11

his delivery of when

40:14

he gets getting Honey Goes. I

40:16

was alone, like, how did he

40:18

not win Emmy's every

40:21

that? The work he does is in that episode

40:23

is off the charts. You know, it's funny. First

40:26

of all, I can't belave it from thirty years. Holy, I know it's

40:28

crazy, but I it's

40:30

like the only show like even

40:33

still. Like last night, So I'm down in my office

40:35

last night, I'm doing prep work and

40:37

uh have the TV on and

40:40

flipping around, and I was like, oh, I think I think

40:42

Seinfeld's on, you know, local channel,

40:45

So of course it is so if I have it on the background

40:48

and the Cramer finding the MERV Griffin

40:50

said, episode

40:52

for sure, I'm literally

40:55

like I'm doing it my stuff. And then next

40:57

thing, you know, I'm just like this and like for a half hour,

40:59

I just don't do any work because I just even though I've seen

41:01

the episode literally eight

41:03

times, it's well

41:05

that's so, I think, like I've seen the contest episode

41:08

fifty times. But when I wanted to find the

41:10

YouTube clip this morning to put in the column, I'm watching

41:12

it like it's the I'm like rivetted to every word.

41:14

I don't know what it is about it, but it

41:16

just hooks you in every time. That's

41:18

the great That kind of made my day. It also

41:20

made me sex and now I realized how old I am. Good.

41:23

The thing about that episode is, you know, everyone gets caught

41:25

up in the fact that's about masturbation. If

41:28

you watch that episode, it's all about the

41:30

way each person in that show delivers

41:33

their lines. It's it's not even what

41:35

they say, it's all in the delivery. It's

41:37

just it's so good. It's it's

41:40

really uh. But thirty years is frightening,

41:42

frightening, It's right, it's

41:44

now I see Now I'm gonna have to no, I have to go

41:46

on and find it. Do you think do you think you'll be

41:48

one of these play by play guys thirty years from

41:50

now, still doing the games? I mean, I'm sure you haven't

41:52

thought that far ahead. But when you see like an Alan Michaels who's

41:55

seventy eight and he's still on top of his game, are you like,

41:57

yeah, I can see that being me? Or do you think, like,

41:59

I'm not doing this for thirty years? Alice

42:03

freaking amazing, man, I mean he's

42:06

incredible. Um,

42:08

you know, I I don't I will say this. I yet

42:10

to say, like, oh, I'm thirty years

42:13

down the road. I haven't thought about I mean, hopefully ever really

42:15

good and everybody's healthy and everything. But I would

42:17

say if I had a choice,

42:19

you know, like they'll they'll

42:22

tell you when you're you know, it's time to move on,

42:24

right, whether the audience or your bosses

42:26

or whatever. But I had a choice, I

42:29

think I'd probably love to be doing this in some

42:31

capacity, even if I'm on you

42:33

know, some island for half the year. I just

42:36

love it much like I love like being

42:38

involved in these games and being at these games

42:40

and getting a chance to do it. So I think

42:43

if I, if I had a say in it, I'd

42:45

like to be at least doing it in some capacity.

42:47

Well, you gotta wait for Tom because he's got ten years

42:50

to do so supposed to leave it. His contracts,

42:52

so you know, he may play for another five so

42:54

that'll you know, then you're fifteen years

42:56

down the road. But by the time that contract though, oh

42:58

my gosh, now you're just all

43:00

of a suddenly the episode is forty five year

43:02

anniversary exactly can we can

43:05

we do this year first? It's

43:07

it's scary how it all flies

43:09

by. But I appreciate you coming on and

43:12

best luck the rest of the season. And

43:14

uh, you will have many many eyeballs

43:16

on you Thanksgiving, super Bowl,

43:18

big big year. Maybe we'll talk to you,

43:21

uh in a two week window before

43:23

the super Bowl, if you're up for it. Yeah,

43:25

down, I mean not not as many eyeballs and ear

43:28

bowls as is a Jimmy Trainer podcast.

43:30

But it'll be close. It'll be close,

43:32

hopefully, all right, Kevin, Happy Thanksgiving,

43:35

take care, stay stay healthy there, all

43:38

right, all right, take care? Thanks all

43:41

right. Joining me now as he does every

43:43

week for the weekly Train of Thoughts

43:46

segment from w FAN Radio

43:49

s n Y TV in New York. Slicatta sal

43:52

Happy Thanksgiving, Happy

43:54

Thanksgiving. The time is year, best time

43:56

of the year. I'm a complete mess because

43:59

I don't. I hate taping this podcast

44:02

ahead of time. I like it to be as timely as possible.

44:04

And we taped, and so we always taped the podcast

44:07

on Tuesday or Wednesday. So we

44:09

taped the Burkhard interview that everyone just heard

44:11

on Friday, and we're taping this on

44:13

Monday. Night and I forgot what I

44:15

wore during the Burkhard interview, so now I'm

44:17

probably not even matching from so that the whole

44:20

thing is a mess. We're not doing the best bet today

44:22

because I can't give out the best bet on a Monday. I

44:24

think stupid. It's

44:26

all stupid. We'll read some reviews, though, we'll read

44:28

reviews before we read reviews. Thanksgiving

44:33

Bills Lions is the first game. And

44:37

when Jim Nance came on this podcast three weeks

44:39

ago, I was trashing the Lions

44:42

and saying it's it's enough already with the Lions and thanks

44:44

I've said this for years. It's enough. It's not cute,

44:46

it's not funny. And

44:49

now they've rattled, and they've rattled off three in

44:51

a row, and that's significant, and

44:53

the Bills have struggled a little bit because Nan said

44:56

if the Lions get a lead

44:58

at any A in the fourth quarter,

45:01

he's mentioning me in the SI Media

45:03

podcast now

45:07

that I'm an idiot because I listened back to it

45:09

today. I should have I should have

45:11

fought back and said it has to be a tie

45:14

or the lead, but he said a lead,

45:17

So do I have a

45:19

chance. No, I'm

45:22

gonna be rooting for it, like hell. I

45:24

mean, that would be the highlight I'm sure

45:26

of. I know your day, but I would love

45:29

to hear that the Lions

45:31

are and plus the this

45:33

is due for a squash

45:35

game. Bills haven't been playing well to your point

45:37

lines in one, three, in or all people now have falls up.

45:40

I'm rooting for you. I don't think it's gonna happen,

45:42

So you're not. You don't think the Lions three

45:45

game winning streak means

45:47

anything. You don't think lean against

45:49

the Bills in the fourth quarter. Josh

45:51

Allen's injured elbow as a factor

45:54

here. If Alan gets hurt, you might might

45:56

have a chance. His elbow

45:58

is banged up right now in

46:02

the fourth quarter. Lions at home on

46:04

Thanksgiving? Nah, you know,

46:06

I mean, how much how

46:09

big you gonna betting the Bills on that day? I'll

46:11

just say this. You

46:14

know I love you, but I'd much

46:16

rather you say I have no chance than have a chance.

46:19

That's fine with me. You're right, Let's let's put

46:21

this out, Jason. I hope it works. Let's go.

46:24

What do you what? What do you think though your gut? What

46:26

do you think I

46:28

have to say I'm worried about the Bills. Well,

46:31

they're over right, you're not getting that probably

46:33

probably what is it eleven and a half

46:36

eleven? I think it is, Oh you might.

46:38

I mean, I guess you get sold. There's just they're

46:40

off. I mean, I watched that game against Cleveland

46:43

because I got I ended up betting over twenty and

46:45

a half points for the Browns and I got lucky to win. That

46:48

they're just not sharp, the Bills. And now listen,

46:51

maybe that you know, listen, they had to go through the stuff with the

46:53

snow. They did the games in Detroit instead

46:55

of in Buffalo. Actually,

46:57

maybe that'll help me out this week because

46:59

they went from all flow to Detroit. They're going back

47:01

to Buffalo then back to Detroit for Thursday.

47:04

Why wouldn't they just stay you

47:06

know what they're gonna They didn't want to stay in Detroit

47:08

from Sunday to Thursday. Fair enough.

47:11

I guess if it's easy and forth, maybe

47:13

there's some jet leg in there for me. And

47:15

Nance mentions the pod you're

47:17

gonna be rooting, Well, you don't care. You want

47:19

the Bills to win, so you get your over but you just need

47:22

the Lions somehow I have a lead under

47:24

three. I was looking forward to, like

47:26

not having to pay attention to the early game

47:28

because I thought it would be like, you know, forty thirteen

47:30

Buffalo. Now, where will you see?

47:32

This is what I want to know. End of the third quarter?

47:35

Lions off? Where

47:38

are you watching? Jim Nance come back

47:40

from break to start the fourth quarter? My

47:42

aunt uncle's house and my uncle's den. Everybody

47:45

shut up, shut up? Oh yeah,

47:47

I'll be in there by myself. I'll

47:49

be in there, okay, all right, huddle

47:53

around the TV like it's Christmas morning. Year,

47:55

the families, the families like you know, in the in

47:57

the living room and kitchen yenting it up, and I

48:00

I go off to the den to watch football. It's

48:03

usually my cousin. You know. My cousin might be in there,

48:05

you know, me and my brother. But I you know,

48:07

it's not gonna be many people. Get

48:09

the DVR set up. Oh man, that'll be great.

48:12

I'm rooting for it. I hope it. We need. The Lions

48:14

have the lead. Um and I just want

48:16

to hear what Romo says in response to whatever

48:18

it is the chips. That would

48:20

be funny, and then uh you

48:23

you'll put Romo on the map before he became Rollo.

48:25

He should shout you out too well. He

48:29

he's been good to me. Um.

48:31

The Giants losing to the Lion, I mean

48:34

to the Lions just really took

48:37

such luss, took such a lot

48:40

of momentum away from the Thanksgiving game. Now, you

48:43

thought, if the Giants could have beaten the lie I mean,

48:45

then the Cowboys go out there and just bludge in the

48:47

vikings. That game

48:50

lost a little bit of juice. Unfortunately, it's

48:52

still be a good game. I'll be locked in, but it lost

48:54

a little bit of juice. Agreed,

48:57

A. I was saying that it was basically

48:59

my theme all last week during the radio shows

49:02

leading up to this game against the Lines. It's not

49:04

a huge game against the Lines, but it was an important

49:06

game to be that piece to their puzzle

49:08

to Okay, here we are eight and

49:10

two going into that game. Now show

49:12

us what you're made of and unfortunately got destroyed

49:15

by Detroit. But good,

49:18

well, it's gonna say division game. Giants

49:20

haven't been on, you know, the thank Giants Thanksgiving

49:23

game against Cowboys. You know, Giants

49:25

still have a good record. Hold you a look at the slate.

49:27

You know, Bill's lines is not as bad as we thought

49:29

initially. Vikings Patriots a very good

49:31

game later on. That's where I was going.

49:34

I'm very I I I

49:36

really like the night game there with the with

49:38

the Patriots and Vikings. I think that'll be I

49:40

mean, the Patriot offense is it's hard to watch,

49:42

but it will be interesting to see what

49:45

Belichick comes up with against the Viking

49:47

offense. Vikings short week, everyone's

49:49

gonna be down on them. Yeah, too

49:52

early for me right now, but my gutt would be

49:54

to go the other way. Every You're right, everyone's gonna be anti

49:56

Vikings. I don't think New England can

49:59

compete with their offense when they're clicking. The

50:01

funny thing is that I

50:04

hate that the Giants lost the Alliance because I wanted

50:06

them to have all that momentum for the Thanksgiving game

50:08

and make it this big. But in college

50:11

on the opposite, like I was rooting so hard

50:14

for TCU, Michigan, and Ohio State

50:16

to all lose this week, and they all wanted so because

50:18

I like the anarchy and in college, but

50:21

not happening. Um

50:25

with Thanksgiving here, I gotta ask you, you're

50:27

you're the biggest Adam Sandler fan that

50:29

I know, what song

50:32

do you like better? Thanksgiving

50:34

song or the Hanakah song? Um,

50:40

great question. Probably

50:43

I as much as I

50:45

I want to say the Thanksgiving Day song, and I

50:47

think it's funnier, I would

50:49

say the better song is the Honakah song. That

50:52

is the correct answer. Yeah, I

50:54

don't even know if it's closet like, I enjoy

50:56

the Thanksgiving a song. It's funny, but the better song

50:58

is the Honk song. Yeah, Turkey Turkey,

51:01

Yeah, the Hanneker song is much more creative. Turkey

51:04

for me, Turkey for you. I

51:06

mean, he Turkey song is

51:08

funny, but the other one is very good. I

51:10

mean it's it's much more creative.

51:13

Um, He's got He's

51:16

got Rod carew in there in the in the time

51:20

we played every Christmas. That that makes the

51:22

Christmas song rotation. Yeah, that's

51:24

great song. All right, Before we let everyone

51:26

go here, we're gonna read some reviews because we've

51:29

gotten some really good reviews lately.

51:32

POD's been doing great. Guess has been good. I appreciate

51:34

the review. If I if I spend five minutes on here

51:37

begging for reviews, then I get reviews. So that's

51:39

what happened. So even though

51:41

people listening to this are probably listening to it

51:43

over Thanksgiving, big leave a review if you can.

51:45

That's like, that's like me with the Kohlers all the overnight

51:48

subtimes three and nobody's calling him. Like, look, I'm not talking

51:50

to myself here. I'll quit if I have to phone start

51:52

lighting up. People start going pity

51:55

always works, always works. Please

51:58

call me, I need you. Let's

52:00

read some of these reviews here. We've got souls

52:03

xllent work, very entertaining, enjoyable, like the honesty

52:05

that Jimmy brings, whether it's a popular take or not.

52:08

Also like the pop references like Sneifeld and others

52:10

look forward to Thursday. Appreciate that

52:13

Larry Pig. How

52:16

does sald not drink coffee? He

52:18

works the overnight on real been

52:20

listening for you is great guests and can't get enough of maidog

52:23

choke and keep it up. You never drank

52:25

coffee ever? Right? No, I'm not

52:27

a coffee What do you? What do you do for

52:29

energy? Like if you need a little pick me up, I'll

52:32

have some I'll have some peanuts or

52:34

like a protein bar. What

52:36

the fuck it? Peanut

52:39

peanuts for a pick for a

52:41

pick me up. I don't do caffeine,

52:43

so I'm not I'm not gonna have a I know you don't

52:45

drink soda. Yeah, no soda,

52:48

no energy drinks. I've tried them occasionally,

52:50

but they didn't They didn't do it for

52:52

me. They taste good. But do you have a drink

52:54

tea? Not

52:57

during an overnight no, old

53:00

me? If like I need my throat is having an issue.

53:02

Never so

53:04

you're screaming and yellow like an animal at

53:06

three am. But no caffeine, no coffee,

53:08

no tea, just peanuts, all

53:11

that protein box.

53:14

Oh my, had water, that's it. I'd

53:16

like to see what would happen if you had a cup of coffee.

53:18

Oh my god. Yeah no, I don't

53:20

know. I probably the

53:22

the caffeine coffee stimulant

53:24

thing is complete bullshit. Well wait, actually

53:26

it's complete bullshit with me. I can drink

53:29

a cup of regular coffee caffeine

53:31

eated, not decaffe regular caffeine at

53:33

eleven and be sleeping by eleven fifteen.

53:35

It has no effect to me, but I need it in the morning

53:38

because if I don't drink and I get a headache, I get the withdrawal

53:40

headache. So you know, you know what freaked me

53:42

out years ago. You know, we're like red Bull and vodka,

53:44

and I know it's still popular. Were going out

53:46

and I would have a couple of those. I couldn't like.

53:48

I was jitter read the whole night and I don't I

53:51

don't like that. I want to be able to go home and pass out, so

53:53

I can imagine I can see that. All right. We got another

53:55

review here Italian meat Ball. As someone who's been

53:57

in the business since the media nerd,

53:59

Jimmy's conversations are revealing and entertaining,

54:01

throwing sal and the Curb Seinfeld references

54:04

and there you have a winning formula. Keep up the great work

54:06

personally. Know what I loved hearing jim NaN's drop my

54:08

my dear friend Dan Wienberg's name. We

54:10

started together as young underpaid production

54:13

assistance at ESPN. Our whole group.

54:15

Danny was going up places. People like all

54:17

the Seinfeld and Curb references. It's like I

54:19

think I referenced them, and I don't even think about it.

54:21

It's just like I this

54:24

afternoon, I was eating some soup.

54:26

I'm a huge soup fan, by the way, huge,

54:30

Like what you go to do you have a specific I'm

54:32

a big beef, barley or chicken, rice,

54:35

vegetable, tomato. I don't like the

54:37

chowders, but every

54:39

time I have I have never like. I'll have soup

54:42

three, four or five times a week, and every

54:44

single time I think of when Eline says, but

54:47

did he crumble crackers in it? When they were trying

54:49

to figure out if the Banya outing

54:52

with Jerry was a meal or not because all he had

54:54

was soup, Bania says, this doesn't

54:56

count as the as the meal and the outing because

54:58

I didn't eat food. I just had soup, And Jerry

55:00

says soup as the meal, and Elaine

55:02

says did he crumbled

55:04

crackers in it? And the way Julia

55:07

Louis Drew Fus Dreyfus delivered

55:09

that line as always with herost

55:11

perfection. All Right, Dave

55:14

mcn you cranky bastard,

55:16

love the pod, could give a crap about wrestling,

55:18

but great New York focused, respect the love for Howard

55:21

and really appreciate how you're willing to go toe to toe

55:23

with Russo and other big names. Oh and sound good to

55:25

keep it up and Swiss smiss is cheap

55:27

crap, so that references when

55:30

Kevin Clark was on the podcast. Kevin wants

55:34

hot chocolate to be like the number two beverage

55:36

in America behind coffee, and he

55:39

doesn't feel like another enough people appreciate

55:42

hot chocolate. And I said, I drink

55:44

Swissmiths hot chocolate every now and again.

55:47

This guy is trying to be fancy because it's, you know,

55:49

like a dollar at shop right for the Swiss Smiths, but

55:51

it doesn't drink um

55:56

Dan Corrado, huge SI Media

55:58

podcast fan Jimmy has for reviews, so I'm happy to

56:00

contribute no complaints to leve you here. Jimmy is my guy,

56:02

and Sal is awesome, even though he's a bigger fan of

56:04

Matt Ryan than Mattie ICE's father. I

56:08

love Matt Ryan. Looked it again this past weekend,

56:11

well, I mean relatively all right, This

56:13

one I cannot wait to read from

56:15

a Stoly. I've

56:17

been really impressed with the quality of the podcast lately,

56:19

and I think there's two primary reasons why. One

56:23

little to no talk of wrestling,

56:26

and two Sal's

56:28

attitude these days. First,

56:31

the wrestling talk, which is the Thursday night football

56:33

segment of this otherwise high quality podcast.

56:36

It just doesn't move the needle, and like and

56:38

just like Amazon Thursday night football ratings, neither

56:40

is real and not a sal who

56:43

seems much happier these days,

56:45

even though the Met season came to a disappointing end. It

56:48

is possible he's gratefully came out of the whole jinxing

56:50

the Mets hope situation relatively unscathed

56:53

and has a new outlook on life. Anyways,

56:55

keep up the good work for

57:00

God, saying escape. Yeah,

57:03

he's got a better attitude because he's scarred, he's

57:05

a he's he has trauma. That's

57:08

why he has a better attitude. He shake

57:10

it to the core. Yeah, right, exactly.

57:13

I don't know what I mean. I feel like I've had the same

57:15

attitude. Maybe it's less busy

57:17

to a certain I think. I think

57:19

I think you're less stressed when the baseball

57:21

season is over. The baseball season, you've got

57:24

to watch a hundred and sixty two games. You

57:26

gotta do your I mean now, I mean, listen, you gotta watch

57:28

other sports now without the Mets. But you're you're

57:31

way more invested in the Mets personally

57:33

and professionally. I am. Plus that

57:36

means also way less invested in Twitter

57:38

in the baseball off season because there's just less things

57:40

for me to care about. So there's

57:43

a shore way to lessen your stress. Jake

57:47

b and Buffalo listener for years, love Sale

57:49

and Jimmy bring on even more wrestling

57:52

talk. The bipolar

57:54

with the listeners is just hopefully you

57:56

can convince Rock and Larry David to be on

57:58

the show someday. Maybe

58:01

Larry, I don't think the Rocks gonna happen. Hey, do you

58:03

watch that The Young Rock Show? I just watch

58:06

once in a while. I'll watch an episode. I

58:08

don't watch every episode. So good

58:10

the way they do the old school wrestlers and tell

58:12

the story, it's so good. I don't know if

58:15

I've ever said this on the pod, but I

58:17

thought I had Larry at one point

58:20

when the last season came out. There were talks,

58:22

there were negotiations, they were interested.

58:25

It ended up not happening. So maybe when the next

58:27

season comes out, we can pull the Rocks. Not gonna

58:29

do it. Um. The only thing

58:31

I'm tired of on the pod is the complaining

58:34

about streaming and changing the channel. Not even

58:36

that I disagree, just tired of hearing about to keep up

58:38

the grade working. That's fair. It's a very fair,

58:41

that's fair. I'm not gonna very

58:44

fair Cam Football Guys is the last one. The

58:46

show is going downhill. Love

58:49

the show and interviews, but I can't

58:51

make it through the train of thought segment anymore. If I

58:53

wanted to tune into that style of sports

58:55

conversations, I tuned into all the morons

58:57

on the radio. Now it

59:01

you know, I guess he's calling you a moron. But I

59:04

feel like we don't even talk about sports in this segment.

59:06

I don't understand it. Him

59:09

Football gu gonna go block him on Twitter. I

59:12

just don't. I can't say

59:14

what I'm thinking about. You see,

59:18

you get why why does that? But why does that

59:20

bother you? I need to know why does that bother? It's

59:22

a personal attack. Come on, if

59:25

you don't like like it, don't listen like you

59:27

mean. Come on, he

59:30

left five stars, that's all you

59:33

leave five stars. I'm gonna read it. Even if you call some

59:38

no, I don't. I just didn't like the tone of it. If

59:40

you don't like me, that's fine. Unfortunately you know

59:42

that that's part of it. I don't. I don't mind

59:44

the ton of it. I don't think, you know, I don't think he's

59:47

not calling you out specifically. He's saying he doesn't

59:49

like our sports conversations, right,

59:53

but I feel like we don't even talk about sports that much.

59:55

But but I agreed, But what

59:57

about the what was the dumb radio guy comment

59:59

like that's disrespectful to talk radio, which I

1:00:01

know a lot of people feel like that, even in the business.

1:00:04

And I find that offensive, highly offensive, because

1:00:06

they can't do a lot of people that critique

1:00:09

they can't do. It's not just somebody yelling

1:00:11

on the microphone for five hours, believe it or not. It's difficult.

1:00:14

Well, I think the problem is, and this is a problem

1:00:17

with anything when you generally when you do a

1:00:19

general lump of quote

1:00:21

sports radio. There's good

1:00:24

sports tape, there's good sports radio, and there's

1:00:26

a Trocia sports radio. So I

1:00:28

think so his comment was, if I wanted

1:00:31

to tune into that style of sports conversation,

1:00:33

I tune in to all the morons

1:00:36

on the radio. If that's where

1:00:38

we're bothering all the morons on the radio, Well,

1:00:40

there's a but there are a lot of morons on the radio.

1:00:43

Uh, fair enough, I mean that's

1:00:45

what But that's that's what I don't

1:00:47

like about the whole broad sports talk

1:00:49

radio. There's good in this bad. It's like anything,

1:00:52

right, However, you talk to one regularly

1:00:55

on this podcast like this is not lumping

1:00:57

in. This is a specific one.

1:01:00

I don't think he meant. I think he was saying

1:01:02

he doesn't like the sports conversations that

1:01:04

you and I have are he doesn't like our sports takes.

1:01:07

And he's saying, if I wanted bad sports takes,

1:01:09

I put on sports look right. You know he's making that general.

1:01:12

Maybe I was being sensitive to it, and that's fine. I

1:01:15

mean, don't sit here and try to tell me you think all sports

1:01:17

talk radio is good. No, I hate

1:01:19

most of it. I

1:01:22

always say, you gotta. I don't

1:01:24

listen to sports talk radio. I do sports

1:01:26

talk radio, but I do think. I

1:01:28

do think you hit all the time. I loved it. Come

1:01:30

on, you hit on something that I would imagine

1:01:33

for you. Has got to be frustrating in

1:01:35

that people

1:01:38

just look at the sports take

1:01:40

or sports opinion part of sports

1:01:42

talk radio. They don't understand the

1:01:45

putting together and opening monologue, the

1:01:48

commercials to keeping the call, like,

1:01:50

no one's ever gonna give you credit for that, unless

1:01:52

they're in the business. Like outside of

1:01:54

the business, they're just they're never gonna understand what that

1:01:56

is, right, the ability to

1:01:59

entertain an audience for five

1:02:01

hours by yourself, in particular

1:02:04

in my case on the overnights. Uh, find

1:02:06

me something that's more challenging. Now, I can't do

1:02:09

what Keith Olberman does or what Jim Nance

1:02:11

does, but I'm not so sure those guys

1:02:13

can do what I can do on the radio. So it's

1:02:15

a different skill set. And I get that it

1:02:18

gets a bad rap, and I understand why, but

1:02:20

you're right, there is there

1:02:22

is a skill level that goes into it. It's not

1:02:24

just loudmouth more on yelling

1:02:26

into the radio. You gotta you know, there are some people

1:02:29

actually work at in our fault. I

1:02:31

think, you know, the criticisms, I think are

1:02:33

more about just the people who say things

1:02:35

just to get a rise out of people don't

1:02:37

even mean it. And I hate that myself.

1:02:39

But that's not limited to sports tough radio. I mean,

1:02:42

that's on the internet, that's in blogs,

1:02:44

columns, Twitter, yeah, everything.

1:02:46

Yeah, So that's you know, but the default

1:02:49

is too you know, all right, sorry

1:02:51

we ended anyways, screw

1:02:54

him. That's what don't screw him. He left five stars

1:02:56

and he listens to the interviews, so we

1:02:59

gotta we gotta keep him listen. See,

1:03:01

this is the thing. There were like four reviews in their

1:03:03

love Sal, Love Sal, Love Sal, and that

1:03:05

one there You're gonna brush

1:03:08

it off, right the other guy said,

1:03:10

Sal's got a better attitude now, right

1:03:13

right until until I get a message like that. Now I'm

1:03:15

just kidding around. It is. It's fine, I get

1:03:17

it. Do you do you

1:03:20

purposely eat less on

1:03:23

Wednesday to prepare for Thursday?

1:03:26

A hundred percent? Yeah, a matter

1:03:28

of fact, this whole week, Like I was like, I

1:03:30

gotta get my ask back to the gym this week because

1:03:32

I know what's coming on Thursday. Like it

1:03:34

is a build up, and it's not just Thursday, it's

1:03:36

the leftovers Friday, Saturday. Mom

1:03:38

don't make as much this year. I don't want any left

1:03:41

over. Everything's left over I'm eating at

1:03:43

the next the whole weekend. It's ridiculous.

1:03:45

So yes, I'm much more aware

1:03:47

of what I'm putting in my body a week before,

1:03:49

let alone the day before. Interesting,

1:03:53

you see, you might you change your diet before

1:03:55

the before the big day. I ate horribly

1:03:57

last week, but the last three

1:04:00

days, I've I've eaten better, But

1:04:03

there's a part of me that's like, you know, if you go into

1:04:05

Thursday on

1:04:08

like a very good, clean,

1:04:10

healthy eating streak, you're gonna

1:04:12

destroy your system. It's almost like, yet eat badly

1:04:14

leading up to Thursday to prepare

1:04:16

the system for what's about to happen. I

1:04:22

don't. I don't need bad

1:04:24

foods necessarily on Thursday.

1:04:26

It's more about the quantity. I

1:04:29

mean, I usually have like one or two pieces of turkey

1:04:31

for tradition, and then like eight

1:04:33

pounds of mashed potatoes and seven pounds

1:04:36

of stuffing. We don't need any

1:04:38

I don't. I don't need dessert. I don't care about the

1:04:40

pies like people are gonna. I like, just give me the

1:04:42

food, give me the meal. The sides

1:04:44

are the best. Like I even told my mom, do we

1:04:46

need to do turkey? Oh my god, like,

1:04:49

like you can't live if we don't make turkey. Nobody

1:04:51

likes the fucking turkey. Nobody eats the turkey,

1:04:54

but he play a turkey left. Nobody

1:04:56

cares. I have big, big beef with people

1:04:58

like you, I understand in the turkey

1:05:00

is not that good. No one's saying turkey is

1:05:02

delicious, but

1:05:05

for the tradition of Thanksgiving, you put a stupid

1:05:07

bird on the table. And that's what you do

1:05:10

on Thanksgiving. These people who stuff you

1:05:13

didn't do it. But there's a lot of people, I mean, I didn't

1:05:15

like your attitude there. Don't get me wrong, but there's

1:05:17

a lot of people who start with

1:05:19

we don't even have a turkey. We don't even we do

1:05:21

it. We do with roast beef. We don't even listen. Then

1:05:24

you're an idiot. It's Thanksgiving, it's once

1:05:26

a year. Take the dead bird, put it in the

1:05:28

oven, and throw it on the table and throw

1:05:30

some gravvy over it. And it's fine. Don't act like you're

1:05:32

above the turkey. I'm out above the turkey.

1:05:35

But it's a waste. And here's the other perspective,

1:05:37

Like I'm looking at my mom who's trying

1:05:39

to do everything, and she still thinks

1:05:41

that we have thirty people coming over when

1:05:43

it's just like six of us. She's getting a thirty

1:05:45

pound turkey, undet my mom.

1:05:48

Nobody eats it, and then she's got to lift

1:05:50

the thing and cook the thing. And now I'm

1:05:52

being pulled out because of pound

1:05:54

turkey cooking may have to smell, nobody's gonna

1:05:56

need it anyway. Well, the same thing goes on in my face.

1:05:58

It's an Italian thing. My my family,

1:06:01

my aunt who hosts Thanksgiving, my dad, they

1:06:03

do Christmas, my aunt. They think

1:06:05

that if they ran out of let's say all

1:06:07

the meshed potatoes were gone, let's say all this stuff,

1:06:09

they think the cops are gonna come arrest them and take them to jail

1:06:12

that like, I don't know, like they

1:06:14

thought of them not having the like running out

1:06:16

of something gives them the shakes. It's

1:06:19

ridiculous. They do the same thing. So this it's

1:06:21

the same, the same issue, stuffing for

1:06:24

days. Yeah, you're exactly. It's just way

1:06:26

too much. That's what I just don't listen.

1:06:28

Again, I'm not a turkey. I'm not a huge turkey

1:06:30

guy, but the disrespect for the turkeys, it's

1:06:32

a little out of control. So it's

1:06:34

Thanksgiving. You have a turkey, go

1:06:37

alright, enjoy it. We'll see you next

1:06:40

week, alright, the

1:06:42

games and the food, all right, goodbye?

1:06:46

Alright, My thanks to Kevin Burkhard and Sal

1:06:48

Locata. Hope you all enjoyed it. I hope you all

1:06:51

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1:06:53

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1:07:06

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1:07:09

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1:07:11

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1:07:15

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1:07:18

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