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0:54

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0:57

so before we get into

0:59

this week's recording, if

1:02

you've been tuning in lately, you may have

1:04

heard us allude to the fact that we've got a

1:06

big announcement. And right now

1:09

is that time to

1:11

make said announcement. So

1:13

starting next week, we

1:15

are making a big shift. We're moving

1:18

from three episodes a week down

1:20

to one big juicy

1:24

episode going out

1:27

on Wednesdays. Okay, now I

1:29

know that three episodes a week down to

1:31

one episode a week seems like a really big shift, but fear

1:34

not because we put a

1:36

lot of really hard thought into this. And

1:39

so going forward, we are

1:41

going to ensure that all

1:44

of the aspects that make the Monday

1:46

episodes where we speak to patients with

1:48

lived experience and the aspects

1:50

of the Wednesday episodes where we get expert

1:52

opinions from folks who

1:55

work in the field of medicine

1:57

or in health. course

2:00

our Friday episodes where we just get silly

2:02

and just talk shit. Each

2:05

of those episodes, you know, they hold a very special

2:07

place in our heart and they play a very important

2:09

role. But

2:12

going forward, we're gonna try

2:14

to ensure to kind of take all

2:16

of the things that make those episodes

2:18

special and cram them into one sort

2:21

of epic super episode every single

2:24

week. We

2:26

are so so excited for this. We cannot wait for

2:29

you to hear what we've been cooking up. And

2:31

again, this new version of Sick

2:34

Boy, Sick Boy Evolved, it's

2:36

gonna be dropping in your feeds next Wednesday and

2:39

it will follow every single Wednesday

2:41

after that on

2:43

and on and on until, I

2:45

don't know, until one of us are dead probably. So

2:48

we would love to know what you think about

2:51

this new format and you

2:54

can do so by by leaving a

2:56

comment or a review. And hey,

2:58

if you really love what you hear, just

3:01

tell someone you love about the podcast. Okay,

3:04

so for this week's final Feel

3:06

Good Friday, oh my god, it's the final

3:08

Feel Good Friday, we

3:10

are going to actually do a little throwback.

3:12

We're gonna go back in time to the

3:14

very first Feel Good Friday episode

3:17

that was ever recorded. We

3:20

recorded this on March 12th of 2020. I believe

3:25

we published it on March 13th. Basically

3:28

the day the world shut down. Taylor

3:30

was not with us because he

3:33

was trapped in the Galapagos. He

3:35

had to be emergency

3:39

rescued from a different

3:41

country. And

3:43

so it was Brian and me

3:45

and our old intern

3:48

Lauren who sat down to kind

3:50

of just figure out what the fuck

3:52

is going on? Like, are we all gonna die? I think

3:55

the title of the episode originally was, was,

3:58

it's the end of the world. or

4:00

the world is ending question

4:03

mark. So when

4:05

we recorded this, it was like kind of a, oh, let's

4:07

just record this. It's a Friday. We'll drop it. We

4:09

didn't have any intention of actually turning this

4:11

into a new show, a new episode. But

4:15

alas, we

4:18

did. And the last

4:20

few years we've been putting out, you know,

4:22

three episodes a week. So a little

4:26

memory from a few years ago,

4:29

this is the conversation between Brian,

4:31

myself, and Lauren. And,

4:34

and we were just trying to figure it

4:37

all out. So I hope you enjoy this

4:39

throwback. And again, cannot wait to bring you

4:41

all this new version

4:44

of the podcast. And I swear to you,

4:47

I am over the

4:49

moon with how this is turning out. It's so cool.

4:52

So we love you all enjoy this and we'll

4:54

see you next week. Are

5:03

you ready? Always. All right.

5:05

Here we go. I

5:27

do feel fine. All right, folks, you've

5:29

been listening to our yeah, I'm on sick boy podcast live.

5:31

But it does feel, it does certainly feel like it is

5:33

the end of the world. Are we legally allowed

5:41

to play that? I don't think so. But

5:44

fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck the

5:47

end of the world, world and who fucking cares? So

5:51

listen, we, we are living

5:53

in some interesting times right now. And

5:56

We decided to kind of pop on here, we actually

5:58

had a few people tweet at us. Can

6:00

requesting that we chat about

6:02

what's happening in the world's?

6:04

obviously as eighteen, I don't

6:06

think it's. A

6:09

really think we need to intro it am.

6:12

Corona. Viruses fuck in here so I

6:14

can sit ups. Do you think I'm I'm

6:16

just gonna die Read into it because or

6:19

I know we're going to kind of talk

6:21

about this but you know you played us

6:23

in with that song. It's the End of

6:25

the World as we know it and you

6:28

know we've been having I'd Jair Lord The

6:30

three of us have been having this conversation

6:32

about i Fear Mongering and like yes information

6:34

in the media and all your things like

6:36

the starting the progress of with I didn't

6:39

have the world as we know it is

6:41

that it is that. Wrong of us

6:43

to do now snow but I'm it's

6:45

a it's a you know I did

6:47

that brian not because I wanted to

6:49

make but put the fear a garden

6:51

every once I I'd but I did.

6:53

But. That. Thought has

6:56

crossed my mind like several

6:58

times today. Or. I'm just like

7:00

thought. it feels. It's. Things

7:02

feel apocalyptic the you know, like

7:04

vs like like I had. Todd.

7:08

Message me This morning was like dude we got were

7:10

like we're going into the country you're coming with us

7:12

right? and I was like a are you serious and

7:14

you like up I'm not joking like I don't want

7:16

to for can be here If enough shit it's the

7:18

fence and like. right? Now where

7:20

we are, Nova Scotia in hell. Facts,

7:22

shit has not yet hit the fan.

7:25

But. It is hitting the fan

7:27

and other places. Ah I'm and

7:29

I think there's like there's lots

7:31

of room for concern. Ah. But.

7:34

Also, I think there's a lot of room

7:36

for like people to. People need to be

7:38

realistic and so I think that's what we

7:40

should do here. Today's is gonna talk about

7:42

like. The

7:46

this sort of spectrum and on

7:48

which people are sitting in terms

7:50

of the seriousness of what's happening.

7:53

Ah, and and from our point

7:55

of view and all the all

7:57

the research that we've been doing,

7:59

what. We feel as valuable to

8:01

to I was I do you want

8:03

to bring up a couple things because

8:06

one we were having breakfast this morning

8:08

and I said to you. World.

8:11

Jair how do you feel about everything that's

8:13

going on because he know your you have

8:15

a chronic illness and year part of. This.

8:19

Vulnerable population that. They.

8:21

Say is is more at risks to

8:23

in a potentially die from this disease

8:25

and when I said that he he

8:27

he said man I feel like I

8:29

should be worrying because he a ton

8:31

of people have been asking me that.

8:34

So yeah so like to it's you know it's

8:36

really funny as I was think about this yesterday

8:38

where to someone it ask me that they're like

8:40

how are you feeling Any my head i was

8:42

like. I. I've

8:44

felt. Like. Say I didn't

8:46

say this to the person but I felt like

8:48

saying. This. Is My!

8:51

This is my every day. Like.

8:53

This feeling. That. Everyone has right now. Welcome.

8:55

To my fuckin' welcome to Like My

8:57

life. You. Know the mean, like

8:59

the eat it. Every year the flu season

9:02

comes by and it's like I was asked.

9:04

The people that I'm surrounded by like Yoda,

9:06

Junior flu shots and a lot of my

9:08

friends. they're They're like now and I go.

9:11

To set and I learned Learned: did you get

9:13

your foot shut? I did. Fuck yeah girl,

9:15

that's what I'm saying. What does he had a hundred

9:17

years right? I'm not going to give me I fi

9:19

because they're and only give you the full of a

9:22

party of did you get your free sites that are

9:24

No I didn't see in that and now I know

9:26

that's crazy. that's that's not. That. Sucks.

9:29

And or me to hear you say that you

9:31

didn't sucks for me. When I I know the

9:33

you're actually like this is like seriously no one

9:35

hundred some of actually being like one hundred percent

9:37

and others and I acts and I feel. Really?

9:40

Bad because you know I think to do and

9:42

then and I think of you and I'd rank

9:45

that I am That and then you know I

9:47

just tried. I've never gotten it before. So.

9:49

Like sure it's it's hard to remember and then by

9:51

the time I think like oh fuck as you go,

9:53

do that. The time

9:55

to get it has ness so and just to

9:57

like read or i really do feel guilty about.

10:00

The real should have. yeah of course.

10:02

of course a good you should have.

10:04

fuck you. I'm the reason why it's

10:06

important that you do briars because if

10:08

you got influenza which happens every single

10:10

year, that's just part of our world.

10:12

Influenza comes and goes right? Lotta people

10:14

die for it. everyone's fucking hear about

10:17

that ran out of us, influenza killed

10:19

so many people area if you got

10:21

influenza and and gave it to me.

10:23

That. Could. That. Could real? I could

10:25

be one of those. Like. Many. People

10:28

who die of influenza every year. Whereas do

10:30

you like? well, whatever your immune system sign

10:32

said right, it's really, well, not. It's fine.

10:35

It's really strauss. Really strict. Yeah, the are

10:37

you in Taylor? Pinnacle. Like

10:39

just fucking peak your immune system got

10:41

across that to browse. Ah so the

10:43

did a Wednesday morning America is that

10:45

is totally different accelerating that So that's

10:48

why that's important for me that you

10:50

do that every year right now that

10:52

now now corrode of i just go

10:54

around and people who who who. Who.

10:56

Actually have like. Standard.

10:59

Normal like good. immune systems are all freaking out,

11:01

there are panic and they're all gone by an

11:03

all the toilet paper. Get all the to people.

11:06

Like. Because god knows you going to wipe your

11:08

ass for two weeks in quarantine or whatever that's that's

11:10

the get like with So when this person was like

11:12

how do you feel a my head i was can

11:14

allow feels like. This

11:16

plugin feel the same as ours we have a

11:18

little allows that we're and like I don't I

11:20

just gotta be really careful dear Then when you

11:22

ask me that this morning over breakfast. I

11:27

started also think about how rapidly things are

11:29

changing in our world right now. Like.

11:31

Sense You and I have sat down here today

11:34

to work. There's.

11:37

Been there's been like a

11:39

ah, A policy that

11:41

just get put into place at any one

11:43

Returning from Canada, Returning from international travel to

11:46

Canada. It's. Must go

11:48

into fourteen days self quarantine.

11:51

right? to as in effect hey taylor right

11:53

now is on the co op in in

11:55

the glafkos on the galapagos yeah whatever on

11:57

it whatever in it he says he will

12:00

now be required to go into quarantine when

12:02

he comes home. I feel like

12:04

he's totally not going to. You know, like he

12:06

should. But you know what? He fucking will because

12:08

I'm going to make sure he does. Good. Yeah.

12:11

Yesterday, I believe yesterday, Trump banned

12:14

all travel from the EU into

12:16

the United States. Right? So

12:18

like all these crazy things are happening. Like

12:20

the NBA and the NHL. The NHL, NBA,

12:22

like all those things canceling. My soccer league.

12:24

Yeah. Yeah. Your

12:27

soccer league. Dude, a huge gig for me in San

12:29

Diego. I was supposed to get on there and speak

12:31

at a conference. Got canceled like two days ago. So

12:33

all this stuff that's rapidly happening like before

12:36

our very eyes, like we can just sit here

12:38

on Twitter today over an eight hour period at

12:40

the office while working. And we're

12:42

just seeing all of these things come up. It's

12:45

now starting to make me feel

12:47

like a

12:50

little more worried than I

12:52

was an hour ago. A

12:55

little more worried than I was five hours ago. A little

12:57

more worried than I was yesterday. So it's

12:59

starting to creep in and

13:02

I definitely have to be careful. But

13:04

so a big part of why I wanted

13:06

to have this conversation today is

13:09

to touch on the importance

13:13

of everyone's

13:15

mental health in a scenario

13:18

and situation like this. Because like

13:20

as much as covid 19 is

13:24

like a very real thing that

13:26

could really detriment detrimentally, if that's

13:29

the word, affect our country. Covid

13:33

19 anxiety is

13:35

also something that's going to fucking like have an effect

13:37

on our society. Oh, yeah. Because

13:40

it currently it already is like you can see it

13:42

happening. It's unraveling right now. You

13:45

know, it's it's

13:47

interesting because the second thing that I was going to read

13:49

is that the

13:51

way that My

13:54

perspective of the situation has evolved,

13:56

like we did an episode on

13:58

Covid 19 Corona virus. There's a

14:00

few weeks the out there is a couple

14:02

weeks after it can a came into the

14:04

the sphere and this and I was definitely

14:06

more in in the like. Yeah. Alert,

14:09

not anxious, Be.

14:12

Careful for misinformation you know And I

14:14

was thinking that it's A. I was

14:16

thinking personally that it wasn't going to

14:19

evolve to where it is to that

14:21

know did not have. I don't think

14:23

anyone selling anybody was too, but but

14:25

now it's like oh hey this is

14:27

something that is It's going to be

14:30

around for the next. Probably.

14:32

Didn't few months at least the

14:34

year, twenty Twenty is going to

14:36

look very different than it than

14:38

it did January. First air minded

14:40

me a little bit of Donald

14:42

Trump. and that right? Donald Trump.

14:44

Like it started as a faraway

14:46

joke, something that would never touch

14:48

after happened and now it in

14:50

reality the silence layer of although

14:52

we all have to live with

14:54

Fuck yes. The last thing I

14:56

can think of that was like

14:58

this: Absolutely Yeah. So so okay.

15:00

Louis Litt Letter to. The Point: The

15:02

point that I was going to make there

15:04

is like you know and and it really

15:07

is spending time with somebody like you who

15:09

like it. Look. Older. People

15:11

are always going to be

15:13

vulnerable when it comes to.

15:17

Like. Viruses and get things that are going around

15:19

and but like this is a really stark reminder

15:22

for me that it's like hey, you know there

15:24

are other people who live with. Chronic

15:27

illnesses, different diseases and

15:29

vulnerabilities that. Puts

15:31

them at risk to. Potentially

15:35

lose their lives to viruses in

15:37

those illnesses and things like this

15:39

and it's like I hadn't really

15:42

thought of it. And.

15:44

This way until. The.

15:46

Last couple weeks and last week where the

15:48

outer into the situation that is and now.

15:50

So I made a post on my Instagram

15:52

earlier let let's talk about that and let's

15:54

talk about like. How

15:56

it feels. to live

15:59

with an improved a suppressed immune

16:01

system like myself and the

16:03

sort of like dialogue that's happening right now around

16:05

me. So I made a post earlier on my

16:08

Instagram that's picked up a little bit of traction

16:10

where I basically said like, look, there's people in

16:12

my life that I care very much about who

16:15

are saying things like, well,

16:18

I feel like this is all blown

16:20

out of proportion. We don't really have

16:22

to worry because it's only going to

16:25

affect people with, older people with immunosuppressed,

16:27

people with suppressed immune systems. And

16:30

I get really like, I

16:33

was really taken back when I heard someone close to

16:35

me say that because I'm going, yo, yo, yo, like

16:37

that's me. You're talking about me. Right?

16:40

So just because, you know, say

16:43

you are Taylor McGilvery and you've got a wicked

16:45

immune system or you're Brian Stever and you're fucking

16:47

going across it and your immune system's top notch,

16:51

you, you, yes, you are probably going to

16:53

be okay. But

16:56

I, on the other hand, I will not be in

16:58

and I'm around you a lot. And, and it's very

17:01

like, so I'll probably be

17:03

okay. But I heard my gym shutting down. So

17:05

I don't know, man. I don't know if I'll

17:07

be okay. So, so my whole point is, is

17:09

that don't, don't forget

17:11

that the people that you surround

17:13

yourself with live

17:17

with, there's so many people out

17:19

there that live with like illnesses that we

17:22

just don't see. And so it's, if

17:24

I don't look at this person across the table from

17:26

me and see an old man with

17:28

like rickety bones and like, you know,

17:30

living in an old folks home, well,

17:34

and instead I look across the table and I see, you

17:37

know, some young woman who looks pretty

17:39

fit and like vibrant

17:42

and healthy. They

17:44

could be living with something like Ehlers Danlos

17:46

syndrome. And I have no idea. And they

17:48

are one of those people that if they

17:50

got COVID, they're

17:54

probably toast. It's kind of just like a quit

17:56

being so fucking selfish and thinking about yourself

17:59

all the But like think about other

18:01

people. Just think about other people. Don't be a dick

18:03

about it. And also your

18:05

experience in life, like for example me

18:07

who as you mentioned has a very,

18:10

very, very healthy immune system. My

18:13

experience... I feel like there's like too many

18:16

barriers. Yeah, okay. But my experience in life

18:18

is not the same as everybody else's. So

18:21

just because I experience life this way doesn't mean that it's

18:23

the same way that other people do. There

18:25

was a woman who

18:28

tagged us in an Instagram post

18:30

at Callie Blackmore or

18:33

Billkmore. I'm sorry

18:35

Callie. She made this really

18:37

great post and I just want to like

18:39

just kind of point to it. She

18:41

basically was saying what I was trying to just

18:43

say but in much fewer and more succinct and

18:46

better words. I'm just

18:48

gonna read it. Read the caption. There's

18:50

a lot of information saturation going on. It's easy

18:52

to spiral or become overwhelmed. I know I've been

18:55

struggling the past couple of days

18:57

and other than washing my hands, my

19:00

phone and remaining isolated, there isn't

19:02

much else I or anyone else

19:05

can do. But one thing I can do is

19:07

educate. Everyone already knows

19:09

during flu season to take precautions

19:11

and know that the elderly, children

19:13

and people with pre-existing conditions are

19:15

more susceptible. And with

19:17

this pandemic, those precautions are more

19:20

important than ever. But

19:22

what exactly qualifies as a pre-existing condition?

19:24

Above is a list of which I

19:27

unfortunately qualify under four of them. All

19:29

right, so here's the list that she put up. Blood

19:31

disorders, chronic kidney

19:34

disease, chronic liver

19:36

disease, compromised immune

19:38

system. So this could mean

19:41

seeing a doctor for cancer treatment such

19:44

as chemo and radiation, receiving

19:47

organ or bone marrow transplant,

19:49

taking high doses of corticosteroids,

19:52

corticosteroids, other

19:55

immunosuppressant medications, HIV or

19:58

AIDS. or

20:00

recent pregnancy within the last two weeks. Endocrine

20:04

disorders like diabetes, metabolic

20:07

disorders such as inherited

20:10

metabolic disorder. I love when you

20:12

read scientific things. I know dude,

20:15

I don't read good. Heart

20:17

disease such as congenital heart disease, lung

20:20

disease, hello, asthma,

20:22

chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, cystic

20:25

fibrosis. Neurological

20:28

and neurologic and neurodevelopment conditions

20:30

including disorders of the brain,

20:32

spinal cord, peripheral nerve and

20:34

muscles such as cerebral palsy,

20:36

epilepsy, intellectual

20:39

disabilities, moderate to severe

20:41

developmental delay, muscular dystrophy,

20:43

spinal cord injury. You

20:46

know who lives with those things? Dude,

20:49

everyone we've ever had on the

20:51

fucking show. Fuckload of people. That's

20:53

what I'm saying. In that post that

20:55

I made earlier, I was like, it

20:57

could be the cuprista who serves you

21:00

your coffee at Starbucks. When

21:02

I put that post up, literally someone

21:05

immediately messaged me and goes, hello, that is

21:07

me. I am the cuprista that serves you

21:09

the coffee and I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. That's

21:11

exactly what I said. You said specifically Ehlers-Danlos

21:14

syndrome. I could say that, yeah. Dude,

21:17

those people, that's the whole point

21:19

of this podcast is to show you that illness

21:22

affects all of us. Even if you

21:24

aren't affected by it directly, you

21:27

are indirectly affected by it because everyone

21:29

we surround ourselves with is

21:32

somehow connected to somebody who's sick.

21:35

If you don't live with one of those

21:38

incredibly long lists of

21:40

things that you just listed off, if you

21:43

don't live with that, somebody you love

21:45

for sure does. Somebody in your

21:47

immediate one degree of separation. If somebody in

21:50

your immediate one degree of separation doesn't, you

21:53

gotta get out more. You're

21:57

probably agoraphobic. And

22:00

your immune system's probably not doing great.

22:03

You know what I mean? Like, you're not

22:05

getting out. You don't, like,

22:07

you gotta, you, also, are you

22:09

okay? And also, do you wanna come

22:11

on the podcast? Yeah, we're taking

22:14

applications. Go to tipboardpodcast.com,

22:16

slash contact. But by the way, if you get COVID-19,

22:18

give us a show. Okay,

22:22

so let's, do you wanna take a second to

22:24

just talk about like the difference between a pandemic

22:26

and an epidemic? Yeah, what's the difference? Cause I

22:28

fucking don't know. It's pretty simple, honestly. And

22:31

I don't like, it's not just stored in my

22:33

brain, but I can read it off the page

22:35

right now. So, an epidemic is an event in

22:37

which a

22:41

disease is actively spreading. Sounds

22:44

like COVID-19. It does,

22:46

yeah, but it's often used to describe a problem

22:48

that has grown out of control. But

22:51

the thing that you've probably been hearing is

22:53

like, whoa, COVID-19 is a pandemic now, right?

22:56

But like, it sounds like it could be an

22:58

epidemic, right? But pandemic is

23:00

like the next level. Who

23:02

said it's a pandemic? Yeah, so what

23:05

that, No, I'm asking you, who

23:07

said it's a pandemic? Who said, who did say?

23:10

Yeah, who said it? Yeah, who said it? That's

23:12

what I'm asking you, who said it was a

23:15

pandemic? Who said it was a pandemic? Who? Who

23:17

did? I'm asking you that, who

23:19

said it? I'm not, I'm telling you, who did? All

23:23

right, Abbott and Costello. Nice

23:26

one. I fucking hate us. The

23:29

WHO, the World Health Organization. Sorry, okay, yeah,

23:31

go ahead, go ahead. I hear they also

23:33

let the dogs out. They

23:35

did, actually. Oh. Are

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23:49

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24:18

so pandemic actually relates to the

24:20

geographic spread. So, uh, a

24:23

pandemic can either affect an entire country.

24:25

So it'd be a country-wide pandemic or,

24:28

uh, it can affect the entire world.

24:30

So in, in terms

24:32

of like who classifying COVID-19

24:35

as a pandemic, they're referring to, uh, a

24:38

pandemic across the entire world. So

24:40

it's affect multiple countries. It's grown

24:42

out of control and, um, yeah,

24:45

there's, there's, they're basically saying that everybody's going to

24:47

get it and most people are going to die.

24:49

Okay. I'm just kidding. I just added that. I

24:51

was like, whoa, I got rule. Yeah. I got rule in

24:53

terms. Um, okay. So right

24:55

now we're in a pandemic. It can

24:57

get worse than a pandemic. No pandemics,

24:59

the, the like quote unquote worse, it

25:01

can worse. It can get, however, um,

25:03

I will say that

25:05

like when, when they change the classification from,

25:07

uh, epidemic to pandemic, they

25:10

don't actually view the disease any differently at

25:12

that point. They view it differently, but it

25:14

doesn't mean that they're actually changing the things

25:16

that they're doing to stop it at that

25:18

point. They're just like basically like, Hey,

25:20

this has become a pandemic. It's out of

25:23

control. It's actually affected the entire world. Okay.

25:26

Um, okay. Uh, what can we, what can

25:28

people do? I know

25:30

that so, all right.

25:34

How do I, how do we, how do we transition

25:36

to this? I there's, there's, I feel like there's, there's

25:39

two different, um, there's

25:42

two different sides of the spectrum of people like reacting

25:44

right now, or maybe there's three, right? There's the people

25:46

in the center that are like, okay, this is happening.

25:49

We, we need to take precautions. Um,

25:51

but also there's no need to panic. And

25:53

then there's people on the far end that's like

25:56

panic, freak out, go

25:58

rob the liquor store. And

26:00

then there's people on the other side like

26:02

my dad the other day who's like it's

26:04

all blown out of proportion This is all

26:06

gonna blow over soon and it's only old

26:08

people that are gonna get it back, right?

26:10

I think the problem is though and the

26:12

reason why is because there's reliable News

26:15

networks that are kind of perpetuating both. Yeah.

26:17

Yeah, totally right like yeah, like I like

26:20

conflicting Yeah, I tweeted at national posts the

26:22

other day and I was like guys

26:24

fuck off with with this Like it was

26:26

just a headline that was just so clickbaity

26:29

and fear mongery But as you mentioned to

26:31

me that headline didn't reflect the content of

26:33

the article either. That's right. Yeah. Yeah So

26:37

but I want to take a moment to talk to the people

26:39

who are like feeling a little Anxious

26:42

and like feeling and

26:44

you know real anxiety right

26:46

now That's

26:50

so okay and There's

26:53

there's a there's a time and a place in

26:55

like room for anxiety I think anxiety can be

26:57

a good thing because it can it

26:59

can sort of gently nudge

27:01

you into the space of making good

27:03

decisions Taking precautions that

27:05

you should be taking that you might

27:08

not otherwise would have But

27:11

also just be super

27:13

mindful that like You

27:16

don't get you don't spiral out

27:18

of control in that anxiety and that it

27:20

becomes a real issue So,

27:24

you know if you're

27:26

practicing like social isolation Make

27:31

sure that you're also practicing like some self-care

27:34

within that, you know, like go

27:36

outside for a walk Listen

27:42

to actually, you know, it you know, it's fucking

27:44

great rich. Oh coin one

27:46

of my favorite musicians ever also Hal Goney

27:48

and what's up rich. He

27:51

just put together a playlist on

27:53

Spotify called feel good playlist

27:55

for anxious times Yeah, and

27:57

he just released it. So Go

28:00

look up rich o coin on Spotify feel

28:02

good playlist for anxious times if you don't

28:04

know rich o coin already you should He's

28:07

an amazing musician He

28:09

does part of the transitional music

28:11

in termion podcast But

28:14

he put together this playlist for all the

28:16

people who are feeling pretty like anxious right

28:18

now, so go listen to that Eat

28:23

eat healthy food, you know, like make sure you're

28:25

you feel like you're taking in good nutrients Get

28:28

some exercise get some exercise in Bri does the

28:30

weekly workout So wait, are you gonna still do

28:32

that now that the world's shutting down? I think

28:35

so I mean, you're only

28:37

really having like two people show up every week.

28:39

It was like five. Okay five whatever. Yeah Yeah,

28:42

I mean it's not over. What's the it's

28:44

not over a hundred or whatever the yeah Not

28:46

like some of the other major cities around around

28:48

the world, but you know what we're working We're

28:51

slowly and you know what maybe we can recruit some more

28:53

people to come out during these times What

28:58

else what do you guys do for self self-care? I Don't

29:02

know. I'm just using all of that

29:04

toilet paper that I bought. Yeah, actually

29:06

using extra toilet paper. Yo speaking of

29:08

that fucking

29:11

dumb shit Don't go

29:13

out buying toilet paper. You don't need it. Listen

29:15

to me people listen to me before

29:18

they shut down shipping Buy

29:21

a tushy get a get

29:23

a bidet. It's literally like 75 bucks My

29:26

mom got it for me for Christmas like

29:28

a year ago and it is I Haven't

29:31

used what guys I haven't used toilet paper in like

29:33

a year I've only

29:35

used toilet paper to dry my my little

29:38

bum bum. That's it Do

29:40

you know you're shaking your head like you don't fucking

29:42

believe me. I don't like the day So

29:44

kid why because the first time I used

29:46

one I didn't know it was a bidet

29:49

Okay, and the water just shot up and

29:51

surprised me Yeah, but you know

29:54

the really unpleasant it was it so unpleasant that

29:56

it gave you that bad of PTSD that you

29:58

would never try it again You just,

30:00

you gotta tighten the bung hole. You can't just

30:02

go into it loose, cause it'll

30:04

give you a little fresh water and anemone. You

30:07

gotta like, you gotta go, you gotta go, you

30:10

gotta suck it in, like tighten

30:13

the butt and then spray. Okay.

30:15

I'm telling you, it's A,

30:18

reduces waste. It

30:22

is using water, but like, okay, whatever. Pick

30:24

your battles. And B, if all

30:28

the fucking toilet paper's gone from Costco,

30:30

you don't just go home and take a

30:32

doo-doo and you don't have to worry about

30:34

it. I'll just use my cat. Oh my

30:36

God. It's

30:39

awful. One

30:42

of the things that I wanted to bring up is that, I

30:44

heard a guy say a quote on the news the other day,

30:47

and I'm gonna butcher it, but basically

30:50

the premise of it was that

30:53

overreacting, what

30:55

seems like overreacting today, might

30:59

in fact actually seem like underreacting,

31:02

you know, a couple months from now. So I

31:06

think that I was, a couple weeks ago,

31:08

I was more in the camp that I

31:11

was saying like, don't overreact to this.

31:13

Yeah, you were. And my

31:16

opinion and my perspective has shifted to

31:20

now be more inclined to

31:23

take precautions, be

31:26

more in that camp of

31:28

overreacting in order to... Dude,

31:33

better be safe than sorry. To protect the

31:35

people around me that I care about too.

31:37

Cause I was very much selfish

31:40

in my way of thinking, like thinking, well, you know, I'm gonna

31:42

be fine. But I remember

31:45

when I was leaving breakfast with you this morning,

31:47

we were walking out the door and I

31:49

was like a few feet behind you. And I was like, man, I just

31:51

don't even wanna be, I

31:53

don't wanna be In

31:55

your space because... Yeah, but that's so. Yeah,

31:57

and I know, I know, but like, but...

32:00

I am a reviewer Taylor and you

32:02

return today from the Galapagos? Yeah, yeah,

32:04

maybe that makes a little more sense,

32:07

but it's also like that dynamic heightened

32:09

sense of awareness of lawyer hey look

32:11

like. It. Would really suck

32:13

to infect. One. Of your

32:16

loved ones here who it is vulnerable

32:18

Hear him. And also it's like I

32:20

love that every time you say vulnerable

32:22

your voice cracks. Yeah it's an Emmy

32:24

and and vulnerable Yeah yeah but also

32:26

I can see you. I can tell

32:28

you're not trying but everyone who listens

32:30

just assumes always crying. Now it's like

32:33

when he when you say vulnerable at

32:35

when we went ahead of music and

32:37

mental health thing the other I believe

32:39

like yeah. Yeah, my

32:41

poor little heart new. Anyway,

32:43

ah I just wanna say that a way to be safe.

32:46

While. And a try. And

32:49

service. The other thing is like. There

32:52

are no. Cases.

32:54

Of current a virus in to Nova

32:56

Scotia now and even same as like

32:58

that literally could change in five minutes

33:00

prior As of six thirty six pm

33:02

on Friday March Thirteenth there are no

33:04

confirmed as a way to listen back

33:06

to us and we complex. There's

33:08

like a thousand and never scotia by the

33:11

as can't wait that's awful or that's the

33:13

thing is that for there probably are some

33:15

people that have it but it's one of

33:17

those viral diseases that you can have it

33:19

without realizing will have of this. I

33:22

have a friend. Whose

33:24

mother just got off a

33:27

cruise. And doesn't feel well.

33:30

And. She got tested. She

33:32

lives here Nova Scotia. And.

33:35

When she got tested their response to her

33:37

of how long it will take for her

33:39

to find out. Is. Seventy

33:41

two Hours. So.

33:45

That's. Forever. And that's one in which added

33:47

know that's a long to seventy two hours

33:49

from right this moment. Right now in the

33:51

world was a different place. She's for share.

33:54

Patient Zero. I don't know, I don't the

33:56

I don't think so. Not only to say

33:58

she's she's feeling much better. Well.

34:00

Apparently I gotta I gotta try to follow

34:03

up. I also have stopped argument that I

34:05

do. The one thing that I want to

34:07

talk about the for yeah rapid on this

34:09

is this is it's so funny that. Hashtag

34:12

Boomer remove Her sister actually got to

34:14

advocate like I don't think any any

34:17

can you just described that For people

34:19

who are like at a road that

34:21

means I'll say that I think it's

34:24

very impolite but I think the that

34:26

the comedy. Of it is

34:28

is hilarious You know how to take

34:30

Bremer remember dog referring to coven that

34:32

he hinted why because all of the

34:34

boom roll their eyes yards feeble. It's

34:36

like off the at the but the tweets

34:38

are are very funny around it because.

34:42

Ah, I just want to read I

34:44

Winners for author and read some move.

34:46

If you know, mind sudden there's a

34:48

nurse's mirth. You should just go and

34:50

look. if you're listening to just Go

34:53

to Twitter, Search it. This is a

34:55

horrible Brian Campbell your fucking been shining

34:57

light on this terrible horrible hashtag is

34:59

a really sad looking pitcher in and

35:01

says everyone making jokes about hashtag Boomer

35:03

Mover but anyone bother to ask. You.

35:06

Okay, Boomer, A. Moon

35:10

have boomers human way I

35:12

look. Who's the hello to

35:14

cement similar story early? Ah,

35:16

it's great A boomer said

35:19

you millennials are way too

35:21

saw. Millennials, their

35:23

hashtag Boomer Mover rumors whoa

35:26

there Bucko set up for

35:28

gifts as a certain in

35:30

listen folks. Wash

35:32

your hands, Take

35:35

care of your mental health. Remember.

35:39

That. The. People you surround

35:41

yourself with. Might. Be.

35:43

Compromised. even though they don't

35:46

look it and dad. And

35:48

don't panic I think the be adding

35:50

like the honestly like if if if

35:52

you take one thing from. This.

35:56

podcast In

36:01

the fine words that I read on a

36:03

bathroom wall one day that I got that

36:06

my good buddy Dave Culligan got tattooed on

36:08

his fucking arm Life will

36:10

always be beautiful again This

36:12

is everything is temporary Everything

36:16

is temporary. So if you're

36:18

feeling like it is the end of

36:20

the world Maybe

36:23

it is and if it is that's

36:26

temporary too. So There's

36:29

gonna be there's gonna be another side to this and

36:31

and we'll all be on the other side of it

36:37

You'll be okay Be

36:42

on the other side You

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