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the way, you know who else loves Alina

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Haber? I can't have one conversation

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with this lady without Alina coming up. It's Siggy

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Flicker, my god, does she love her. And

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we love Siggy too. Siggy was just on one of

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my Siggy on on Friday, talking about the

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was a tent, so... That was a tent, yeah. See,

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Siggy Flicker loves you, Alina, my god, does

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she... Yeah, I love her too. She's like

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my sister. You

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guys are best buddies. Always a great picture by the

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pool at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah.

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That picture. That picture haunts me.

1:19

I know. I've seen it

1:21

a million times. A great shot. They both look

1:23

great. Let's get to this second day of court

1:25

for Trump. And look, you had

1:27

to deal with a judge. And let me do the bad

1:29

talking because I know how lawyers are. You've got to

1:31

deal with these judges. But, Engaron and

1:34

Mershan, to me, are the same. They're

1:36

both evil. They're both

1:38

biased. They're both agenda-driven. They're both Democrat

1:40

lovers. And quite frankly, they're both horrendous

1:42

for the legal system. And they're doing,

1:45

now with President Trump, a huge injustice.

1:47

And not just President Trump, but Americans

1:49

everywhere. So you've dealt with a judge

1:51

like this. This guy, Mershan, he's something

1:53

else, Alina. Yeah. He's

1:56

the same judge that put Allen Weisselberg,

1:58

the CEO of the Trump... organization

2:00

in jail not once but twice, once

2:03

for I think forgetting to put his car,

2:05

his company car on the taxes.

2:08

And now he goes to jail in his 70s. I

2:10

mean, it's a disgrace. He also

2:12

is hearing Steve Bannon's trials.

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the Weiserberg son a couple of days ago and he's destroyed.

3:32

He's like, my dad's going to jail. He's 76 years old

3:35

and you talked about it, how he's let other

3:38

people go who have done a heck of a

3:40

lot less. Let's get to the

3:42

matter at hand. Yesterday 500 potential

3:44

jurors show up. I guess they let it. The

3:46

number's the one you can correct me. They let

3:49

about 100 in and more than half of

3:51

those go right home because amazingly when

3:53

asked to be honest, they weren't honest

3:55

and said, I can't really

3:58

do this. I'm not a fan. of

4:00

President Trump. So the question keeps coming up.

4:03

How is he possibly, possibly going to

4:05

get a fair trial, which you know

4:07

already, here in New York? Yeah,

4:11

I don't think you can. I

4:13

would love to say that you could, but people

4:15

are human beings. We're in a blue

4:17

state. I think that they're bringing these

4:19

cases intentionally in blue states. Look at

4:22

Georgia, look at Washington, and it's

4:24

by design. DA

4:26

Bragg is much like Letitia James.

4:29

He is a career never-Trumper. He

4:32

brought other cases against the president.

4:36

And the reality is, this is an

4:38

eight-year-old case that they're rushing to have

4:40

heard before an election cycle,

4:42

because these DAs and AGs would like

4:44

to make a name for themselves and

4:46

use President Trump in order to

4:49

do so and campaign off his back. It's

4:52

just un-American, really, said. I mean,

4:54

you really can't do things

4:56

like that. But the facts are

4:58

clear. Look, Bragg has let

5:01

off felony crime after

5:03

felony crime and brought them down to misdemeanors.

5:06

But in the case of Trump, he took

5:08

a misdemeanor and raised it to a felony.

5:10

That says it all. It

5:12

really does. And you know, you brought up that

5:14

it's going to be difficult to get a fair

5:17

trial. So the question is very, very

5:19

simple. I know that his lawyer is in, he's

5:21

in good shape here. He's got Suzanne, he's got

5:23

Todd, he's got some other very good lawyers like

5:25

him. But it has come up.

5:28

Can he move the venue? Can he get this case? Out

5:31

of New York, every lawyer I

5:33

talk to says highly unlikely, maybe

5:35

impossible. What do you think? Any

5:37

shot? Not at this point. We did

5:39

try to do that. We appealed.

5:42

But no, at this point, the trial is

5:44

underway. So we are pretty much stuck

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you talk to people like you and

6:22

other great attorneys and they go, here's

6:24

a deal. Okay? I'm

6:27

going to put the cart before the horse and I love

6:29

President Trump like you do. I love him. But

6:31

he's going to lose. He's going to get convicted.

6:34

The question is, will it be probation? Will

6:36

he have to do a week in jail because

6:38

this judge hates him? He can get up to

6:40

four years in jail. What really

6:43

happens when and if the

6:46

conviction comes down? What

6:48

is your gut, Tanya? If

6:51

the conviction comes down, and based on the

6:53

fact that I know that obviously I can't

6:55

discuss, it shouldn't because the

6:58

man was in Washington, let's remember,

7:00

during this time. He was

7:02

not even in charge of the Trump organization,

7:04

let alone some accounting

7:07

person that books in

7:10

QuickBooks or whatever the payment that

7:12

was made. And

7:14

by the way, it doesn't do so incorrectly. But

7:17

somehow the President of the United States is

7:19

being held on the hook for that, which

7:21

is, it's crazy. But look,

7:23

let's say worst case that a conviction

7:26

comes out of this. The jury doesn't

7:28

get it. The

7:31

discretion is really with the judge

7:33

and that's what makes me concerned.

7:35

The good news is the

7:37

President is under the protection of Secret Service.

7:40

That doesn't change. So hopefully

7:42

they would step in and they

7:45

would have some say in it. I think it would

7:47

be truly damaging for our country to see

7:50

a former president, any president, Republican,

7:52

Democrat, doesn't matter, be

7:54

treated this way and be put in prison. I

7:56

mean, that would just be the most disturbing

7:58

site for the state. for all of

8:01

us because that's what they do in communist

8:03

countries. They put your opponent, your political opponent,

8:05

they jail them, they kill them. So

8:08

I'm hoping that that does not obviously

8:10

happen and if the facts are heard by

8:12

the jury it won't. Alan Dorshowitz told

8:14

me on this show yesterday, I know you

8:17

love Alan too, he says that he thinks

8:19

the president can get a win here because

8:21

he sees maybe not a likelihood but certainly

8:23

a potential for a hung jury. What do

8:26

you think about that? Yeah.

8:28

You just need one and I

8:30

do think that people

8:32

will see this as a sham. I think that

8:34

we have great lawyers as you said on the

8:36

team but the question

8:38

is really what does the judge let them

8:40

hear? And that's a point that

8:42

I have to make because I've had jury trials

8:44

with the president and if the

8:46

judge doesn't allow evidence in that helps my case

8:49

then they never hear it so you can't win.

8:51

So the judge has the

8:53

strings for the puppeteering and if

8:56

he doesn't allow you to see

8:58

the judge see everything, we're not

9:01

magicians, we're lawyers. So

9:03

that happened with me with Judge Kaplan.

9:06

So eventually of course you

9:08

deal with that on appeal but here we're dealing

9:10

with a candidate that's being held in court for

9:13

six weeks. He can't go out.