0:00

Even when we're stressed, that

0:02

is actually detrimental to our gut. And that's

0:05

why one of the things I tell people all the time when

0:07

you're trying to support your gut health is you

0:09

want to do meditation or deep

0:11

breathing or take a walk in nature, something

0:13

that calms you down. Because

0:16

your brain is actually sending signals

0:18

down to your gut through this vagus nerve.

0:22

Hi, this is Danae. I'm the founder

0:24

of Simple Families. Simple Families

0:26

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0:29

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0:32

this show, we focus on minimalism with kids,

0:34

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0:37

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0:40

perspectives are based in my first-hand experience

0:43

raising kids, but also rooted in my

0:45

PhD in child development. So you're

0:48

going to hear conversations that are based in research,

0:50

but more importantly, real

0:52

life.

0:53

Thanks for joining us. Hello,

0:57

hello. Danae here. Thank you for tuning into

0:59

the Simple Families podcast. That voice you

1:01

heard in the intro is Tina Anderson.

1:04

She's joining me today to talk about gut health

1:06

and probiotics. Tina is a

1:08

co-founder of the company Just Thrive

1:10

Probiotics, whom I recently

1:13

welcomed as a podcast sponsor, and I thought this would

1:15

be a great opportunity to explore this topic

1:17

a little bit deeper.

1:18

We hear a lot about how valuable probiotics

1:21

are and how important gut health is.

1:25

But I know I have a lot of questions

1:27

about what all that means. Where is the

1:29

gut? Why do we say, go

1:31

with your gut feeling? Why do we ask

1:33

people, what does your gut tell you? How

1:36

do we choose between all these probiotics,

1:38

the ones that are in the refrigerator, the ones

1:40

that are chewable? There's

1:41

so many options. And do we even

1:44

need them? So I'm thankful

1:46

that Tina's joining us today to answer some of

1:48

these questions and tell us more about this topic.

1:51

Thanks for tuning in. I hope you enjoy my chat with Tina.

1:53

Hi, Tina.

1:55

How are you? Great, Danae. How are

1:57

you? I am good. I'm happy to have you. I

2:01

have a mile long list of questions

2:03

for you. I hope you're ready for it. Oh, I'm happy to be here.

2:06

Excited to answer them. So maybe

2:08

we can start. Just tell us a little

2:10

bit about yourself

2:13

and how Just Thrive started. Sure.

2:16

Yeah, you know what? I'm an attorney, so

2:18

I was in litigation for many years working

2:20

crazy hours and started to have

2:22

children. And after my second was

2:24

born, I decided that I wanted more

2:27

of a work-life balance. So I was

2:29

fortunate enough

2:29

to be able to pivot and go into a family

2:32

pharmaceutical business where

2:34

I was really excited about it because I'm like,

2:36

oh, we're doing something that's like helping people and delivering

2:39

life-saving medications to people. This is awesome.

2:42

But after being in the pharmaceutical industry

2:44

for a while, we started to notice the abuses

2:46

in the industry. We started to notice the overprescribing

2:49

of medications. We saw it not

2:51

only in the industry, but with our own relatives.

2:54

One relative that always comes to mind is

2:57

my husband's aunt who was on one

2:59

medication for a stomach issue. Then

3:01

that caused joint issues. And then she was on

3:03

another medication for joint issues. And then she

3:06

developed skin rashes. And then before you know

3:08

it, she was on a dozen different medications and not

3:10

really getting any better. And

3:13

we just saw that the focus of the pharmaceutical

3:15

industry was so much about treating

3:18

symptoms. It wasn't as much about

3:20

prevention or maintenance of health. Of

3:23

course, there's a place for

3:25

pharmaceuticals and either life-saving

3:27

medications. I don't mean to say that

3:29

there's not

3:29

a place for them. It's just that it wasn't

3:32

where our heart was. We were

3:34

really more into prevention

3:36

and

3:38

more of maintenance of your health. My

3:41

husband and I both felt this way and we decided

3:43

that we wanted to pivot into the natural health

3:46

and wellness world. I

3:48

always say being at the right place

3:51

at the right time and a lot of prayer and meditation, we

3:53

were able to license these

3:57

game-changing probiotic strains out of

3:59

London University. And from there

4:01

is where Just Thrive was born.

4:03

So tell us first

4:05

why do people need probiotics?

4:07

What do they do for us? Yes. Well, where

4:11

I love to start is like gut health. Why

4:13

is gut health so important? And that's why

4:15

you would need a probiotic. But just

4:17

so everybody understands, like gut

4:19

health is literally, we now know from

4:22

the Human Microbiome Project that was launched

4:24

by the National Institutes of Health about 2007 told

4:26

us more about the gut than

4:29

we ever knew before. And what we found

4:32

out is that the gut is literally dictating

4:34

every aspect of our overall health. So

4:36

people always thought, oh, I need a probiotic because

4:39

I have some bloating or I need a probiotic

4:41

because I have like some diarrhea or constipation.

4:43

And those are absolutely reasons

4:45

why you would need a probiotic. That's an indication

4:47

that you have some gut imbalance. But

4:50

what we're now finding out is that that gut is actually

4:52

responsible for heart disease,

4:56

diabetes, cancer, of course, autoimmune

4:58

issues. Mental health issues,

5:01

anxiety, depression, all of those types

5:03

of conditions are actually all stemming

5:06

from some type of imbalance in your gut.

5:08

You know, acne, our immune system,

5:10

you know, 80% of our immune system is

5:12

actually found in our gut lining. So

5:15

all of our, so much of our health is

5:17

really stemming from our gut. And

5:20

we know that this Human Microbiome Project

5:22

told us that we are 10 times

5:24

more bacterial organisms than

5:27

we are human cells. And that's really

5:29

hard for people to wrap their heads around that we are more

5:31

bacteria than we are human.

5:33

And yet we live in this world. That's so

5:35

offensive to bacteria

5:37

that's living in and on us, you know, from antibacterial

5:40

hand sanitizers and antibacterial

5:43

soaps to antibiotics that we

5:45

take antibiotics that are in our food supply.

5:48

Antibiotics save lives and I don't suggest

5:50

that you don't take an antibiotic if it's going to save

5:52

your life. But there is so much

5:54

of an overprescribing of antibiotics. The

5:57

CDC did a study. It showed that 50% of...

6:00

are actually not necessary, prescribed,

6:02

and that we're not actually necessary. So,

6:06

there's just an over-prescribing of things,

6:08

and there's a world that we're living in that's so disruptive

6:10

to our gut health. So,

6:13

household products, there was a study that showed

6:15

household products that actually kill

6:17

off 99.99% of the bacteria, it says on their kills, 99.99% of

6:21

the bacteria. Those

6:24

household products actually, those households

6:26

actually have children within higher

6:29

incidence of

6:29

allergies and autoimmune

6:32

issues because we know that these

6:34

bacteria that are living in an honest are actually

6:37

really, really, not just beneficial,

6:40

they're actually critical for our overall

6:42

health. So, it's really

6:44

important that we are doing things to support

6:47

our gut health because we live in

6:49

this world that's so offensive and

6:51

because we know our gut is dictating

6:54

so much of our overall health.

6:56

So, when you say gut, what do you mean

6:58

by gut? Yeah, so what I mean by

7:01

gut is the totality of our microbiome.

7:03

It's basically the totality of organisms

7:06

that are living in and on us, most

7:09

of which are found in our intestinal

7:12

tract. So, when I'm talking about gut, I'm talking about the intestines

7:14

mostly. But the microbiome

7:17

is considered living all around us, but

7:20

most of it is found in

7:21

our intestines. Okay, so

7:24

when we say gut, we're thinking more

7:26

or less about the vir intestines, but

7:28

also sort of intermingled with other body parts

7:30

as well. Absolutely, exactly.

7:33

So, the phrase is like trust your gut or

7:35

go with your gut. Where do those come from? Yeah,

7:38

well, they're very true and now we have science

7:40

to back it up. We know that when

7:43

we, there's something called the gut-brain axis

7:46

and it's this communication going back and

7:48

forth from the gut to the brain and the brain to

7:50

the gut. So, we know when we're excited

7:52

about something, we have butterflies in our stomach

7:55

and that is our brain and gut speaking

7:57

back and forth to each other. And so,

7:59

we know that. that even when we're

8:01

stressed, that is actually

8:03

detrimental to our gut. And that's why one of

8:06

the things I tell people all the time when you're trying

8:08

to support your gut health is you want

8:10

to do meditation or deep breathing

8:12

or take a walk in nature, something that calms

8:14

you down because your

8:16

brain is actually sending signals down

8:19

to your gut through this vagus nerve

8:21

and this gut brain access. There's so much research

8:24

behind that gut brain access now. And

8:26

so trusting your gut is the same concept. It's

8:29

like your

8:29

gut is, your brain and your gut are constantly

8:32

in communication with each other. So

8:35

I definitely suggest that people trust their

8:37

gut if they have a nice healthy gut. Right.

8:40

And if they don't, maybe it's not so trustworthy. Maybe not so

8:42

good. Right.

8:44

Right. So I know I have a lot of physicians

8:46

listening and I've talked to my doctor, I've

8:49

talked to our pediatrician about probiotics

8:51

before. And I do feel like

8:53

there's

8:54

not a disagreement, but maybe not

8:57

an overwhelming push

8:59

from the totality

9:02

of the medical community towards probiotics.

9:05

Is there a divide? Is this kind of a naturopathic

9:08

versus traditional medicine?

9:12

I don't know. Tell me what does that look like? Yeah.

9:14

You know, it's interesting. Definitely. Yeah.

9:17

Definitely. You'll see the naturopathic doctors and

9:19

the functional medicine doctors kind of leading more towards

9:22

taking a probiotic. And then the conventional doctors

9:25

that you find out there are not as excited

9:28

about them. And the reason I actually

9:30

think

9:31

I know why, I don't know for sure, but the

9:33

reason I speculate why the conventional

9:35

doctors are not a huge fan of probiotics

9:37

is because we know that most

9:40

probiotics on the market are actually dying

9:42

before they get to the intestines. You know,

9:44

just that a probiotic needs to be refrigerated

9:47

to stay alive is questionable.

9:49

You know, even some doctors will

9:51

say, oh, take a probiotic that's refrigerated.

9:54

Well, that's actually not true because

9:56

a probiotic actually, if

9:59

it needs to be refrigerated, refrigerated, it means it can't withstand

10:01

the room temperature of the store shelf. So

10:03

if it can't withstand the room temperature of the store

10:05

shelf, how in the world would it ever survive

10:08

your body temperature, which is 98.6, much warmer, much hotter?

10:13

Then how would it make that journey to

10:15

the intestines? To be an effective

10:17

probiotic, it needs to arrive alive

10:20

in the intestines. The overwhelming

10:22

majority of probiotics fail to even get

10:24

to the intestines alive. Not only

10:26

will the temperature of our body kill

10:29

them off, but the stomach acid is

10:31

very acidic. The stomach is supposed

10:33

to be this gastric barrier. The

10:35

majority of probiotics actually have difficulty

10:38

getting to the intestines alive.

10:41

That's the big difference with the spore-based probiotics,

10:44

which are the type of probiotics that are found

10:46

and just thrive, is they are not the

10:48

conventional type of probiotics. They have this endospor

10:51

shell around themselves. That

10:53

shell around itself allows

10:55

it to make that journey to

10:57

the intestines 100% alive, and

11:00

then it doesn't take that shell off until it gets

11:02

to the intestines. I feel

11:04

like a lot of doctors are not huge fans

11:06

of them because they know that they're dying by

11:08

the time they get to the intestines. But

11:11

I do feel like conventional doctors

11:13

are really starting to understand now that the

11:15

National Institutes of Health came out with this human

11:17

microbiome project that the gut is

11:20

so critical to our overall health. I

11:22

think they are starting to maybe

11:25

understand more about probiotics.

11:28

Unfortunately, that's what's hard about

11:30

our medical system is doctors don't

11:32

have time. They don't have time to understand

11:35

a lot of this stuff. A lot of their

11:37

education comes from pharmaceutical reps that

11:39

come into their office. The

11:42

natural supplement

11:42

space doesn't have the resources to

11:45

go in and educate doctors on

11:47

the different types of probiotics or supplements

11:50

and all of that kind of stuff.

11:51

A lot of what

11:54

many physicians have experienced with

11:57

prescribing or suggesting probiotics

11:59

is not just a not a favorable outcome

12:01

because, and the thought is that maybe

12:03

because the probiotics were dead

12:06

by the time they reached

12:08

the gut for some of these patients and

12:10

sort of developed a reputation

12:13

for being less than dependable. Is

12:15

that my understanding that right? That would be my guess.

12:17

Again, it's speculation, but I would guess that

12:19

that's probably why. And even the dead

12:21

bacteria will give some people some symptomatic

12:24

relief, but it's not making a true change

12:27

in the gut microbiome.

12:29

Okay. I see. So

12:31

I remember probably 10 years

12:33

ago standing in Whole Foods and

12:36

in front of the probiotic aisle, there's some refrigerated

12:38

ones, some non-refrigerated ones, and just

12:41

being so confused about what to do. And

12:43

then I asked the person standing in that work there for

12:46

help and they gave me a little bit of help. And

12:48

then I'm asking myself, like, I don't even know if they actually

12:50

work in this aisle. I don't know if they

12:52

know any more than I know and I know nothing. Just

12:55

feeling really overwhelmed by

12:57

the

12:58

types of strains,

13:01

the quantity of strains, if I order

13:04

them online and I ship them at the time I was living in

13:06

Texas and it was 95 degrees and then they

13:08

arrive in my front door and they sit on my front door for three hours,

13:11

like, is that a waste of money? So

13:13

I think that in general, do you hear that a lot that people

13:15

are just really overwhelmed by getting

13:18

started? Yes, people are definitely overwhelmed.

13:21

There are so many myths out there. We

13:23

already talked about the refrigeration myth. So

13:25

many people think it's a better probiotic

13:27

because it's

13:28

alive in the refrigerator. Now we know

13:30

that that's not true. But then

13:33

the reason that myth came along is because

13:36

a probiotic that's just sitting on a store

13:38

shelf is probably dead.

13:40

The one in the refrigerator is probably maybe alive.

13:43

It won't get alive by the time it gets to the intestines, but

13:45

the one sitting on the store shelf is probably

13:47

dead to begin with. And

13:49

so it's kind of ... And a lot of companies

13:52

have done these different kinds of interacoding

13:54

and special engineering to make them

13:57

get to the intestines alive. And

13:59

I do. think that there's a lot of myths out there

14:02

about what really is making

14:04

a true change in the gut. And I think

14:06

if there's one thing I could leave everybody with

14:08

is that what you want a probiotic

14:11

to do is to make a true change

14:13

in the gut. So if you kind of compare your intestinal

14:16

tract to a garden and

14:18

the garden has been stepped on and trampled

14:20

on and there's weeds growing all over that garden

14:23

and it's kind of like you compare it to your intestines and

14:25

you've got like beneficial bacteria

14:27

and then you have pathogenic bacteria and that

14:29

pathogenic bacteria is taking over

14:31

the beneficial bacteria. So same thing

14:34

with the garden. So what we want,

14:36

we don't want a probiotic

14:38

just to go in there. Let's say one or

14:40

two make it into that garden. All

14:42

they're going to do in there is put a new plant

14:44

in there and they're not really making a change

14:47

in their garden, that garden. They're not doing anything

14:49

with those weeds that have been stepped on and trampled

14:51

on. They're not doing anything with those plants

14:53

that really need to come back to life

14:56

where the spore-based probiotic strains that

14:58

we work with, they actually go into

15:01

that garden. They attach to this in

15:03

the gut in the intestinal cell wall but

15:05

in the garden they attach to the soil. They

15:08

have the ability to get rid of the weeds in that garden

15:10

and they have the ability to bring some of those plants

15:12

back to life. So if you compare that

15:14

to your intestines, these spores go

15:16

into the intestines. They have the ability

15:19

to get rid of that overgrowth

15:21

of pathogenic bacteria and they have the

15:23

ability to bring that beneficial bacteria

15:26

back to life so it's flourishing in your gut.

15:28

So it's a very different

15:29

approach to gut health. It's going

15:32

in there and actually changing

15:34

the ecosystem of your gut in a more favorable

15:37

way. Whereas the conventional

15:39

probiotics that you find in

15:41

the health food store are just maybe planting

15:44

one or two plants. So it makes the garden a little

15:46

bit better but it's not really making a true

15:49

change. And so a lot of

15:51

the stuff that you're hearing like refrigeration

15:53

or the number of CFUs, you

15:55

know that's a lot of times people will be like, well how

15:57

many CFUs does your probiotic have?

16:00

CFU stands for colony forming units.

16:03

There is absolutely no science

16:05

to that, no science whatsoever to say

16:08

that one that has 50 billion

16:10

is better than one that has 10 billion. Or

16:12

now they have ones that are 200 billion or 250 billion CFUs. That

16:17

is true marketing at its finest. Here

16:19

we are in America, more is better. There

16:21

is absolutely no studies that having

16:24

more CFU count is actually going to

16:26

do anything more in your gut. The

16:28

key is those probiotic strains

16:31

that are there, what kind of change

16:33

are they going to make? We have studied this.

16:35

We are very based in research and science.

16:38

One of our first studies was a gut model

16:41

study. It showed that just after two

16:43

weeks, these strains that are used in our product

16:45

actually showed a 30% favorable

16:48

shift in the gut microbiome. Again,

16:50

a profound study. We've never seen a study

16:52

of that kind that actually shows

16:55

that kind of shift. I just would suggest people

16:57

don't get caught up in how many CFUs

16:59

or

16:59

if it's refrigerated or not refrigerated. It's

17:02

just really find a product

17:04

that has the science behind it that

17:06

shows a true change that's

17:08

going on in the gut.

17:10

For a

17:12

long time, I gave my kids

17:15

probiotics that were like a little piece of white

17:17

chocolate or like a chewable. Are

17:20

those just garbage? Tell me more

17:22

about this. If they're made with

17:24

bacillus strains, not lactobacillus.

17:28

Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium type strains are

17:30

the ones that generally will die by the time they

17:32

get to the intestines. It all

17:34

depends on what strains those had. If

17:37

they have the bacillus and they have the studies

17:40

behind them, then they may have been, I don't know

17:42

which ones those were. You

17:45

really want to focus on ones that have bacillus

17:48

endosporus strains. They would say bacillus

17:51

subtilis, bacillus clozi.

17:54

Those are the strains, bacillus indicis.

17:57

Those are strains that are really have been shown

17:59

in studies.

17:59

studies to be effective and get to the

18:02

intestines alive.

18:03

Okay. So some strains are

18:06

heartier than others and less than others.

18:08

Yes. And so here's what's really neat

18:10

about the bacillus strains is the bacillus

18:12

strains that we work with actually are the same

18:14

type of strains that were found in our environment.

18:17

So years ago, our ancestors used to

18:19

eat off the land. You know, they would eat roots

18:21

and tubers off the land and they would get the

18:24

soil on their roots

18:26

and tubers and they would actually eat

18:28

some of those probiotic strains from the soil.

18:31

So this is the way we naturally evolved. We

18:33

never naturally evolved to

18:36

get lactobacillus and bifidobacterium

18:38

strains from the environment. We

18:40

are inoculated with our bacteria

18:43

at childbirth from vaginal childbirth. That

18:46

is when we are inoculated with lactobacillus

18:48

and bifidobacterium strains. And

18:51

those are the most prevalent strains that are in

18:53

our guts right now, but it's

18:55

the bacillus strains and I know

18:57

this is a little bit sciency, but the bacillus strains

18:59

that found in our environment are with

19:01

the way nature intended us to take

19:04

care of our intestinal tract. So that's,

19:07

those are the same type of strains we work with. And yes,

19:09

they are very hardy. They have this spore

19:12

shell on them. When you find them in the

19:14

soil, they have this spore shell around

19:17

them. So we have not engineered these to

19:19

be, you know, have the spore shell. They actually

19:21

have the spore shell and when

19:23

they get to the intestines, they recognize

19:26

it as its home and take the

19:29

shell off and that's when it becomes a live

19:31

microorganism. So it's not

19:34

important that a probiotic is alive in the refrigerator.

19:37

It's important that a probiotic is alive when it

19:39

hits your intestines. And that's really

19:41

one of the biggest takeaways is that focus

19:44

on getting a live bacteria organism

19:47

alive probiotic hitting the intestines,

19:50

not necessarily in the refrigerator.

19:52

Hmm. Interesting. Wow. I

19:55

feel like I'm trying to understand all

19:57

of this. I mean, it's just the.

19:59

The easiest part is that this is the way nature evolved.

20:03

This is the way we evolved as humans, to be getting

20:05

these from the soil. Unfortunately, the soil

20:07

we live in, if you lived in Tanzania,

20:10

tribe in Tanzania, and the soil was untouched

20:13

and not over farmed and deplete of nutrients,

20:15

you would need to take our product. You

20:17

would just be able to go ahead

20:20

and eat from the land and you would get these bacterial

20:22

organisms. But unfortunately, the world we live

20:24

in, we don't have those.

20:26

So I'm

20:30

obviously things like antibiotics will

20:32

damage or

20:34

cause a need for probiotics. My

20:37

kids were just on antibiotics last week. They had strep.

20:40

So we're definitely doing both

20:42

antibiotics and probiotics still this week.

20:46

But I'm thinking about other things that would

20:49

compromise our gut. So stress.

20:53

What about eating a lot of grilled cheese and mac and cheese

20:56

and cheese pizza? Yeah, a lot of. Not

20:59

that I know anybody that does that. Right.

21:01

Right. Well, we can't beat ourselves up either, but absolutely.

21:04

All the processed foods that we're eating, it's detrimental

21:08

to our gut health. The sugar that we're eating, incredibly

21:10

detrimental. Alcohol, all these things are

21:13

very detrimental to our gut health. Just

21:16

like the air we're breathing, it's so toxic. The

21:18

chemicals that are around us, our personal

21:20

care products. There's just a lot

21:22

of things that

21:23

are very detrimental to our gut health. We

21:25

are living in a world that is so disruptive.

21:28

Leaky gut is the cause of autoimmune

21:30

issues. This is all stemming

21:33

from a disruption in our gut microbiome. So

21:35

I would always recommend people try to

21:37

eat as clean and as whole as possible.

21:40

We know organic food is definitely

21:43

better for our gut, more supportive of our gut

21:45

because our produce is being

21:48

sprayed by Roundup and glyphosate

21:50

is the active ingredient in Roundup and

21:52

it is incredibly detrimental to our gut microbiome.

21:56

Antibiotics in our gut kill the bad

21:58

bacteria as well as

21:59

the good bacteria, we want antibiotics to kill

22:02

the bad bacteria, but then they kill the good bacteria.

22:04

Glyphosate, which is the active ingredient

22:06

in Roundup, only targets our

22:08

beneficial bacteria in our gut. So

22:11

it's almost worse than antibiotics and yet we're eating it so

22:13

regularly. But I recognize it's expensive

22:16

to always eat organic. I would

22:18

just recommend trying maybe

22:20

some frozen fruits and vegetables that you

22:22

could find organic. They seem to be a little

22:25

bit more affordable. And I always suggest baby steps.

22:27

Just try to take baby steps along the way and

22:29

don't try to do it all at once. Okay.

22:32

Can you give me more of an outline

22:34

of some of the other modalities that help

22:36

to support gut health? Yeah, absolutely.

22:39

So I kind of touched upon one. I do feel

22:41

that anything you could do to calm

22:43

yourself down, I mean, that's good for so

22:45

many areas of our health, not just our gut health,

22:48

but we do know that because

22:50

of that gut brain access, you know, introducing

22:52

meditation. Sometimes it's even just making

22:55

a huge lifestyle change. For

23:00

example, I was an entrepreneur. I'm

23:02

an entrepreneur. I have three kids. I was running around.

23:04

They all play college sports and high school sports.

23:08

But I finally had to make a huge change in my life

23:10

because we need to sometimes

23:12

make lifestyle changes that are drastic, but

23:15

that is so important for our gut health. I

23:17

would avoid sugar, alcohol,

23:20

like I mentioned. I would try

23:22

to eat a diverse group of foods, you know,

23:24

go to ethnic grocery stores maybe, as

23:27

a society, you always like have

23:30

the same type of foods on a regular basis.

23:32

You know, we eat the same vegetables and tubers. Even

23:35

if you don't go to an ethnic grocery store, even

23:37

if you just go to your regular grocery store and try

23:39

to have different types of vegetables that we don't

23:41

normally eat,

23:42

the more diverse our microbiome

23:44

is. This is very well established. The healthier

23:47

our microbiome is and the healthier our overall

23:49

health is. So if we have health in

23:51

our microbiome, we have overall health.

23:54

Ninety percent of noncommunicable diseases

23:57

are associated with the health or

23:59

unhealth.

23:59

of our gut. So I would

24:02

do that, trying to not

24:04

use those household products that cleans 99.99% of

24:06

the bacteria. Bacteria is our friend. Playing in the dirt is really

24:09

important. We're so

24:16

afraid of

24:17

germs and when we're cleaning

24:19

things with bleach and all those types of things that's actually

24:22

really killing our microbes. And I

24:24

usually just use a water

24:26

spray bottle with some

24:29

essential oils in there and I just clean

24:31

off my counters. Okay, like the toilet bowl, we need

24:33

to have some heavy duty cleaners

24:35

for that. But generally I just try to beak

24:37

a little bit

24:38

cleaner with the ingredients that I'm using. I think

24:40

that's really beneficial as well.

24:43

I really needed that reminder to buy

24:45

different fruits and vegetables because I've been ordering

24:48

my groceries online and I've been

24:50

in the habit of going to past purchases and

24:52

just clicking and that makes my life so

24:54

much easier. Yes, well it's a simple link.

24:56

That's a good... Right. Yeah.

24:59

Well, and with the

25:02

online ordering, I can just click on produce

25:04

and I can quickly see a whole list of other

25:06

things. So it's not

25:08

that much more work, but it does take a little bit

25:10

of thinking outside of the box and telling

25:13

to do something like that. It's so good for your kids

25:15

too because the more that they're introduced to things,

25:17

the more they'll be able to tolerate different kinds of foods.

25:20

Yeah. So thinking about how

25:22

that diversity of foods, especially when you're

25:24

thinking about fruits and vegetables is good for the

25:26

gut.

25:28

Is it because they're grown in different

25:30

soils or is it the actual

25:32

vitamins and minerals within the fruits and vegetables?

25:35

What is that? Yeah, it's a combination of both actually.

25:38

So the different soils, especially when you

25:40

go to ethnic grocery stores, that's a

25:42

big part of it because you're getting different types

25:44

of bacterial organisms. If somebody

25:47

in Europe, their bacterial

25:50

organisms in their gut are very different than ours.

25:53

And even someone from New York where you're from

25:55

in Chicago or I'm from would be different

25:57

just because we're getting different types of... nutrients

26:01

from the soil. And yeah,

26:03

so it's a little bit of a combination of both. That's a great

26:06

question.

26:07

Yeah. Last year we spent a month

26:09

in Mexico and we took a lot

26:11

of probiotics in preparation and while we were

26:13

there and we ate everything.

26:16

And I think a lot of Americans, we know the

26:19

Montezuma's revenge that we, and

26:22

I'm fearful of that. Cause I've had that happen to me before

26:24

when I'm traveling and it's

26:27

scary, especially to think about kids getting

26:29

sick and especially being abroad.

26:33

So is that what travelers

26:35

diarrhea and those sort of ailments

26:37

are they related to, it's different

26:40

bacteria that your body's exposed to, not necessarily

26:42

bad bacteria. I think you

26:44

bring up a great point is that what

26:47

we want to do is have a resilient gut.

26:50

That is our goal here is we want our kids guts

26:52

to be resilient, we want our guts to be resilient.

26:54

So then when we are faced with different

26:57

pathogens, like people get in Mexico,

27:00

it's not just the different kind of food. There's

27:02

as our, there are obviously some pathogens

27:05

that we're exposed to when you're in Mexico,

27:08

but it's about building that resilience in

27:10

our gut so we're able to tolerate it better. I

27:12

mean, that's the one thing I love to remind

27:14

everybody is our bodies are beautifully

27:16

designed to heal themselves. And

27:19

unfortunately they're being attacked on a daily

27:21

basis, but the more resilient we

27:23

could create our bodies and our gut microbiome,

27:26

the better we'll be able to handle those things that

27:28

come across to us. Like I said, 80%

27:30

of our immune systems found

27:32

in our gut lining. I mean, the number one thing

27:34

we could do to support our immune system is to support

27:37

our gut health. Well, thank you so much. This has

27:39

been so helpful. I feel like I've had a lot of these questions

27:41

for a while. So I've learned so much today.

27:44

Thank you, Tina. Oh yeah, thank you so much. And

27:46

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And thank you so much for allowing me to be

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28:41

Thank you. I hope

28:42

you enjoyed this chat with Tina Anderson,

28:45

the co-founder of Just Thrive. This

28:48

has been episode 348 simple families.com forward slash

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episode 348. Thanks for being here.