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Yo yo , we back in the sandbox

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. We got a couple special guests . You see

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Uncle Tony in the building . It means we talking

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and we dropping some music . We

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got a special guest in the building . We got

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Kevin , we got K6 .

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K6 , baby K6 , how we doing let's go

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. I'm chilling man , you know , can't complain

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Hell yeah , welcome to the sandbox

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.

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Appreciate you First podcast

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experience , yeah first podcast experience

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and it's a pleasure being in here . Hey , hell

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, yeah , love that , love that .

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No , I'm excited . I heard

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you guys have been working on some projects

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. I've seen some social media stuff

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going on so I was like ooh At the zoo baby

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. I need to learn more

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about this and I also feel like you guys

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got the shit dropping . Let's talk about

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it , you know what I mean but before , before

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we get into you know the

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, the album and all that I

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I need to know like a little bit more about

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like how this got started , so and

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you want to elaborate a little bit .

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How'd you guys get connected ? We have a mutual

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friend that everyone probably knows

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migs shout out , migs shout out migs man shout

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out to Migs . There we go

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and

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my man moved to Florida and

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said have no fear , I have an engineer

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that is .

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I'm still waiting for vacation .

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We're still waiting Me

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and K6 went on a manhunt for that

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in the studio 100% . But

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Migs had connected us and

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I just haven't worked with anyone else since . To

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be honest , he had showed me

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some beats and I was like dude , like

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like you got any plans

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for these , and then we turned it into a tape and then you

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know , we've just been working together ever since

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on whatever like , even if it's not

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tracks for k6 beats like I

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still go to k6 , you know , yeah , love that

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night at the zoo , baby .

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Yeah , I mean I feel like you know you're

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especially in like the music business but like

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for whatever I'm doing too like , I feel like it's

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important to like know like people

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you could trust , people you can like lean on a little

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bit and like like I feel like it's

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I need that too and that's why , like you know , I

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send that shit to you guys and like obviously have

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like Twan , like have like everyone

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kind of shares their opinion .

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And he definitely does that for me too , like I'll be

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in the booth .

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This already knows , you already know . I just give him that look , he just

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gives me a look , I was like all right , let's

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do it again .

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And I was just saying I love the fact that , like

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you were like getting like some clips and shit like that , I said

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to him like when I was , when we had like our own

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, like our

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old studio like real makeshift , like

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when we were doing all that , like I felt like I was able

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to like express myself a little bit more and like

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reflect on , like those feelings , like in just like a

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personal time , like now that I'm here . Like I got my

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fiance here , I got a tenant upstairs like my brother's

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downstairs not that I don't feel comfortable

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doing that because I sit in here and scream to a microphone-

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four days out of the week , like , literally

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, when they're all here uh , and literally

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screaming too , like you heard me lose

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my voice at trivia like it just happens

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.

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I'm just a loud ass dude um

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but .

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But with that all being the case , like it's just

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, it's just unique to see how that

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like grows and how that like

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levels up and like how that changes and what

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perspective was thought about that time

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ago . And then , like you might play that video

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in like three years and you're gonna be like , oh

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shit , like we came a long

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way .

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You know , even now I just I was gonna say

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the other day I was watching the first video

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and then just what I have now is just

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it's , it's crazy the progression is great

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.

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Yeah , I love that . So k6 , tell

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us about it . What's k6 ?

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k6 . I am a

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music producer . I have been producing

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since I want to say 2017 . Okay

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, um shout out to migs

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yeah , man yeah

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, migs was , uh , he was making edm

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. It wasn't my vibe , but but

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what he was doing was cool . And then he

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, he , finally he made a trap beat and that

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is kind of like what got me so

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after , after seeing him , him make that

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.

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I did you learn like a lot of the

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stuff through him a lot .

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A lot of the stuff I learned was through him and like I

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just learned the basics from him and then I kind of just

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went my own route same thing with

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engineering . I want to say I started vocal engineering

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in like 2020 self-taught

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yeah 2020 . Um

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, shout out to migs , he , he would bring me , he

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would bring me to his sessions and I'll just watch

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him . And then he taught me the basics

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, and now I took what I had learned

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from him .

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He's a master .

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I wouldn't say master , but I

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definitely got a lot better .

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You're comfortable with your craft and everything like that

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, so we love that . Where did the name K6 come ?

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from K6 . Oh , this is

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a great question . This was

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around the T6D era . Oh yeah

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, For

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some reason 6 was just an intriguing

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number to us , so

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I just took K for Kevin and then 6

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.

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Okay , t6d , migs , that's

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all good .

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That's how the name came about . I had a bunch

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of names before . Actually I went through phases of

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names , but K6 .

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This is the one that stood out to you . Yeah

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, this is me .

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Yeah , I got a tag made for it and everything

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I was like 18

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. I paid someone to do

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it .

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So I seven , yeah , like 18 . I paid someone to do it , so I had to make it work .

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I love that . That was sick . Yeah , I can't wait for you guys to hear that . I know I'm amped . Like I just I just

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literally got like a quick 30 second snippet , like before

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, like anthony usually like is sending me all

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this shit like raw , like as you guys are going

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, like this one , like not that you intentionally

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like kept it a little bit close , but I haven't

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heard it yet and I I'm kind of excited because , like I usually

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hear all that , but like I also tell

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you too , like I want to be able to give you

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my thoughts , my

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opinions , my impressions , my love

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like with that as like a real

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, authentic fan . I feel like sometimes

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when I see that kind of developed or

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before . Not that it takes away from it , but

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I just want that full experience

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.

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Yeah , yeah , and I remember

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texting you in a couple of times and

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you were just like , okay , like I'll

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listen to it , but like I would really rather listen

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to it when it comes out to like get

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that experience ?

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Yeah , that was their experience , absolutely yeah

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, so you guys got connected with

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Migs .

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How long did you guys feel like you

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know , you guys started , like you know , just talking stuff like that until , like , things really

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started to like , yeah , we , we need it , we need to get on

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this . I mean originally um the like how we initially got connected was um . Migs was

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um migs was in lynn uh

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mike p studio and he had

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k6 was working on his tape one

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of Kind right and

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he initially sent me this beat .

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He was like dude .

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I think you would do well on this beat , so I had

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K6 . That's when I first heard the K6 tag

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and I was like whoa . And then

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he sent me this 2010 Meek Mill beat and I was

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like , okay , okay , okay , I

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definitely want to write to this . So we wrote to it . That's

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already out right now . That was out right now . That was the first time

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we ever connected . And then

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, um , I obviously work with migs all the time and then migs

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had moved and I was I kind of inquired about

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like hey , like kevin

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lopez man yeah , he's still hanging around

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here . He's like , yeah , he did not move to florida , so

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we've just been working together ever since . That's like the first time we

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initially got connected . But like , yeah , that's um

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. I think it was like the

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winter or the fall when we

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22 ? This year .

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Oh 23 .

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When we originally had

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connected and I was reaching

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out to him to see what kind of beats he had . So we

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sat down and he played me beats and the

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first three beats that he played me are

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the first three songs on the tape .

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Ah , so so they left a good impression . Yeah , my boy was cooking up , so he sent me are the first three

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songs on the tape , ah , so so they left a good impression , yeah like

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he had showed me this beat in person and

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I was like whoa .

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And then he's like I got another one . I was like wait , don't play another one . And then

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he played it . I was like , oh my god , like they did

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get better . I was like , okay , there's no way it gets better yeah

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and then he , and then we had done

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those two , like we had done two

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beats at one session .

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Yep .

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And then we came back and I asked for some

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boom bap stuff and man he

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gave you that boom bap .

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Yeah , yeah , it was

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crazy oh man .

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But like yeah , we can , we'll

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get into it . I know we'll get into it later on but man

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like this dude has a gift . It's crazy

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.

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Before we , you know , really dissect like what's about

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to drop May 17th and I'm really amped

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up for that . I want to talk about

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, like , why you got into music

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, because I feel like that's important . Like

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everyone , you can do something , but I also feel like understanding why you want to

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do something . Kind of shows like your process

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to it , like how passionate you are about

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it . Like , where do you want this to go ? I'm

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going to send this to you first .

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Why did you get into music

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. Honestly , at first

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it was seeing Migs and making EDM

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and stuff , so you didn't have

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an interest in music before that . I

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mean , I liked listening to music . I love listening to music . I still

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do . I love music .

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But before that , yeah , we'll talk

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about it .

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But even growing up , like I'm

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trying to , I never really played any instruments

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Like I tried to play the guitar . That

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was . I failed . I

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tried to teach myself piano a couple times

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. That was hard .

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It's all good . Anthony was playing some crazy instruments

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. I bought a guitar when

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I was a kid oh , no , no , no , I'm a

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triplet , I'm getting there . I'm a triplet , so

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like we went from fighting over

9:32

it to like no one using it .

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And then my mother was like , oh

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, fifth grade , tier , we're gonna

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, we're gonna put you in violin classes

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and then she

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stopped .

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Then she pulled me because she found that I was playing

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legos in the back but they're in class , so um

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no more violin but

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just just using

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, just making beats and like seeing how

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, how good I've gotten over the past couple years

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, you , you start to grow a passion for it . So

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I want to say that's

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part of the reason why I make music now . Okay

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, thank God you do , but

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getting into it , I want

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to say it was just watching the people

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around me , just

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seeing a friend do it is like why

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can't you do it ?

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I just started watching videos and then eventually

10:25

, I kind of grew kind of like

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in love with that exactly you , you , you

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.

10:30

You find a nice passion for it , absolutely

10:32

the late nights , early days for sure

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.

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No , I feel like you . You respect all of that and

10:37

like what you invest in it kind of like exactly

10:39

shows what you think of it like all the , all the money

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.

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I'm not gonna say how much but , all

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the money that over since 2017

10:46

that I've invested into like just laptops

10:48

, plug-ins sounds drums

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software exactly like a studio

10:53

. Now you know it . It's

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a huge investment .

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I love that and I respect it and like I'm

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sure you could see that , like from here , like knowing

11:02

that we literally said and passed around

11:04

one microphone .

11:05

Yeah , we did .

11:06

And literally Steve was like hold on pause .

11:09

Recorded on .

11:10

Zoom calls that's literally how

11:12

we got started Before COVID , before

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Zoom was even big like that , and

11:17

I was just like yo , I love this , how do I

11:19

get better , how do I get better ? And so I

11:21

taught myself how to create content . I

11:23

taught myself how to produce a show , like

11:25

I learned the video editing , like I

11:28

had to learn , like the audio stuff , like with all

11:30

this shit , because not everyone speaks at like the same levels

11:32

when you don't have you know the nice ass equipment

11:34

and shit like that and like teaching yourself

11:36

is huge , like once you , you teach yourself

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, you , you .

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It's a different , it's a different grind yeah

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, when you teach yourself , it's more satisfying .

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Exactly it is when you get there not

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only that , like I , just I just feel

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like not that you gain

11:49

a different respect for yourself , but you have a lot

11:51

more confidence , knowing , like yo , I knew

11:53

nothing about this like not a damn

11:55

thing I could barely spell podcast

11:57

like

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the first , the first time , like I really got into

12:06

it , like I had asked your mom . I was like Auntie , like

12:08

I'm thinking about , like investing , like in this , and

12:10

like I obviously had saved like a couple of thousand

12:12

. I was like , look like that Mac Mini

12:14

is going to cost me like close to a G , like the

12:16

systems and the microphone like it's going to cost

12:18

a couple grand . She was was like , if it's something you

12:21

really think that you're gonna do five

12:23

years later , like sounds like my mother yeah

12:25

she got that effect on on

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people

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but 500 episodes in close

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to 50 000 downloads so

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no , this isn't about me , though , but I'm just

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I know you still get it , you still . I still have

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to applaud . Yeah , of course I appreciate

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it .

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But but I'm just , I'm just trying to like

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add that in with like , like the growth

12:43

and like the journey . It's so satisfying

12:45

.

12:45

So satisfying .

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But before , like

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I said , before we get into this , do you have

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favorite artists ?

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My favorite artist right

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now . Who's my favorite artist ? Not Drake

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. Definitely not Drake . Yeah , oh

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, so I'll just count them . I'll count them .

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Anthony , wouldn't give Drake respect

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if he made a song that

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went triple platinum , making a billion

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dollars .

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If I had a team of 20 writers in one

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room , I would do the same damn thing Drake's

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cool .

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I'm more on the Kendrick side of the beef .

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That's cool . How do you feel about Cole ? Cole's my favorite doctor

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.

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Cole . I fuck with Cole .

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I'm glad he apologized

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he got out yo , he got out a business

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decision for sure real huge business decision

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I mean who knows who knows what would have happened .

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Yeah , you know what I will say is regardless

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of who I

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.

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I don't feel like there has to be a winner in the rap

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I agree I feel like it was good for

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rap fans I feel like the only people

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that wasn't good for was kendrick and drake , because

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they got a lot of dirt on their name , like a

13:49

lot of truths came out that the average

13:51

fan didn't know and now

13:53

that's going to be like tied to their career and I'm not

13:56

saying that that's going to impact drake

13:58

from making money or kendrick being one of the

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greatest lyricists , like in our generation

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but , but what of all time

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?

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yeah , I mean like

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all that I didn't I didn't want to get into that type of conversation

14:10

, but um , but like .

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With all that being the case , like

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, like factual

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or not , like you never want , like being

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a pedophile being attached to your name you never

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want to you . Never want to be like

14:22

oh , like you beat your girl

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, like you never want that to be attached to your name either

14:27

, like regardless of what's factual , what's not

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, that's out there and they had sources for

14:31

that information . You know what I mean . So that's

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that's not shit that you want . Um , they're

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actually my three favorite artists is kendrick

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j cole and drake um , and

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and everyone asked me like my opinion , like

14:43

, oh , like you have to pick , like you have to pick

14:45

a side . You have to pick a side , me don't . I

14:47

mean . I know you clearly

14:49

drew a line in the sand but I'm just like

14:51

I think that this , like we're getting great music

14:53

right now they shut everybody

14:56

out of like the music game Like I heard

14:58

, like Joyner and Millie's like talking about

15:00

, because Millie's and meek mill drop something

15:02

. I feel like if they didn't have like the beef

15:04

, like with the big three , like that shit

15:06

would have went hard like you know what I'm saying , like it's like nothing's

15:09

relevant right now because everyone's waiting to hear

15:11

. Like the next response yeah yeah , drake

15:13

.

15:13

Drake had initially was like , I mean , kendrick didn't

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say anything , kendrick had just said like we

15:18

talked about it right like f

15:21

, a big three .

15:21

It's big , me like unlike that , but it was

15:23

Unlike that , but it was a hard and intentional

15:26

diss , but he didn't specifically

15:28

stop pulling legs .

15:30

He left it as if the shoe fits .

15:31

Yeah , and said nothing after that .

15:33

And then Drake was like poke

15:36

, poke , poke .

15:37

I don't do that .

15:38

I don't do it .

15:39

Cole got involved and was like poke , just kidding

15:41

, yeah , just kidding .

15:46

And I'm going to be like clear about that like real quick too , just because like , like

15:49

, regardless of that beef going on , cole still

15:51

like my god I . I think he

15:53

apologized because one like I feel

15:55

like there could actually be like blood

15:57

spilt on this I'm not saying like somebody might

15:59

actually die , but dudes could actually get shot if

16:01

they're actually about like their words yeah , did you hear

16:03

about drake ?

16:04

drake's crib got shot up ? No , I didn't hear that

16:06

he got shot . His security guard got hit .

16:08

Oh , shit , yeah , yeah , wow , I found that

16:10

out today . Yeah , yeah , damn , I need to find

16:12

that out .

16:13

Like I don't want , like I , I love

16:15

the music , like you said , like I'm a big fan of the music

16:17

that's coming out because of it and it's like great

16:20

to keep our attention and stuff like that . But like

16:22

I wanted to just stay within

16:24

the words , within the songs I don't want it to

16:26

get out of hand because , like , I talk

16:28

a lot about drake but at the end of the day , like , if you

16:30

say that he's not a good artist , that's just wrong

16:32

like , yeah , like

16:37

I've been here since 09 , like since forever , yeah

16:39

, yeah , like yeah , like the thing is like

16:41

I don't want , I don't want like anyone

16:43

to be , like no one deserves to get hurt over like a rap

16:45

beef , like to be real . Like it's just they're both

16:48

making money from it . So like they should just , even

16:50

if at the end of the day it's like a money grab , like Jay-Z

16:52

Beyonce's lemonade .

17:01

You know what I mean . So , okay , skewed

17:03

opinion on him because he apologized

17:06

, but you

17:08

shouldn't be viewed differently for apologize

17:10

for something that either didn't sit right with you or

17:13

something that didn't sit wrong . I feel like what he's

17:15

trying to do with that is be an example for

17:17

people to like look , you don't need to

17:19

be , petty no more . You don't need to die

17:21

over this shit . Like your life , you

17:24

get like I think what he tried to say was like

17:26

yo , like park and big literally died

17:28

from this rap beef . I'm cool , I

17:30

got two summers left of me . I want the fall

17:33

off to get here

17:36

. But like , with

17:39

all of that , like I just feel , like one he tried to set

17:41

an example and like two , I feel like

17:43

he actually does fuck with both drake and kendrick

17:45

. So it's like , yeah , like you heard your name

17:47

and he proved that he could respond like I thought

17:49

seven the seven minute drill was a good , good

17:52

response , but but like not

17:54

keeping it out there , I just feel like like he wants

17:56

to sleep , end up like he's prioritizing

17:58

his own self , mental , like awareness

18:00

, like yeah , like all that shit . So that

18:03

that that's my opinion on it , but like I think , like

18:05

I said , I think there was bloodshed on both , but I don't want to

18:07

go too in depth on it before we talk about your

18:09

track , but anything else that you wanted to say about your favorite

18:11

artists , before we talk about you guys .

18:13

Honestly my favorite artists . I mean right now

18:15

my I love that Different

18:18

answer yeah , he's the GO , future's the GO

18:20

.

18:20

Just look at the the road that he paved .

18:22

Just Just

18:27

look at his track record , just look at the track record

18:29

Future .

18:30

It's a go-to album . A song from Future Go-to

18:32

album is either . Obviously

18:34

I mean this might be Everyone's I'm gonna

18:36

say Dirty Sprite 2 . Right now it's actually the

18:38

Metro collab .

18:39

I've been which one one

18:45

.

18:45

The first one , okay , not the r&b one .

18:47

The r&b one was fire , though yeah , that one was fire , but but I have not

18:49

stopped bumping that okay , that trap one . I love that . I feel like if

18:51

, if future came through

18:53

at like a different time , he would get a lot more

18:55

recognition . And I'm not saying he doesn't . Future's probably

18:57

like my fault , like it fabs up there , like I'm

18:59

a big fab , so tapes are on apple music now .

19:01

Yeah , yeah , um , nah , I'm big into didn't know that .

19:03

Oh shit , that's fire .

19:04

Um , nah , I'm big into all that and like

19:07

like it's crazy

19:09

Cause I feel like Drake , drake and future really

19:11

made like a lot of good , like songs together too , and I know we

19:13

ain't getting that , and

19:15

the fact that I'll say about it cause

19:25

that it was on a future song that this all started .

19:26

Yeah , I thought that was great . Yeah , I love that . My my favorite like future tape

19:29

is the gold one . Future

19:31

like the self-titled yeah future

19:33

like might as well as my is my favorite future

19:35

song probably , but I'm a future guy . I wasn't

19:37

always a future fan , like I like companies .

19:39

It's a it's a don't get too comfortable yeah

19:41

that's

19:43

a great , that's a great .

19:44

Take two . Love that alright .

19:45

But we want

19:47

to talk about you guys , collab . That's why we brought

19:49

you here , but we got to tease everybody . We got to talk more

19:51

about all the beef shit . Stay

19:53

tuned , stay tuned but you

19:56

guys got a project dropping May 17th

19:58

next week , next Friday what's

20:01

it called ? How many songs ? What should

20:03

we expect ? What's it called how many songs ?

20:05

what should we expect ? What's the vibes ? Um , so the name of

20:07

it is two-tone k6 . Um

20:10

, me , k6 had talked about

20:12

it . Um , the versatility

20:14

of the beats that he made was just crazy . So , like

20:16

the way I had to deliver

20:18

, like my words , and the flows on there was

20:20

in a plethora of tones

20:23

, voices , flows , yeah , so

20:26

you feel like that was a challenge . It

20:28

was a welcomed challenge

20:30

. Um that's okay and it's like

20:32

, it's . It was like whoa , like

20:34

. I really want to do this like , like , and I wouldn't

20:37

have thought that if it wasn't the beats that

20:39

he's applied like we did . We got a

20:41

lot of sampling on there , which is nice .

20:43

Yeah , I think everything is sampled .

20:45

You're right . Any features ? Yes

20:47

, two , two . Can we name

20:49

them , you think ?

20:53

It's up to you , man . Yeah , we'll do it . Yeah

20:55

, what are we doing here ? We ain't naming these .

20:57

So we got six tracks on there . We

21:00

do have two features . I want to say shout out to

21:02

my boy , True .

21:03

Tremaine . Shout out to True . Shout out to Yousef , young

21:05

Yousef , young Yousef . Oh , both performs

21:07

. Yeah , both were at the show . Okay , yep , both were

21:09

at the show as well , two separate tracks

21:11

. They

21:15

each got their own . They're both doing their thing right

21:17

now too . Yeah , they are doing their thing right

21:20

now .

21:20

True , yousef , bro Dogs

21:22

. So we've

21:24

been . So

21:27

the name of it is Two Tone K6 . We got six tracks

21:29

and the way it worked

21:31

out is Like I mentioned earlier . We

21:34

had sat down and listened to these beats and every

21:36

time he showed me a beat , we recorded

21:38

to it , and that was the order

21:40

of the track list . So like . We

21:44

definitely . So , going

21:46

back to what you said about , did you find it as a challenge ? I

21:50

don't think challenge is the right word . It's like a . It

21:52

was like a test almost , and I wanted to test

21:54

, like the versatility .

21:55

Of what you can do where you came from

21:58

, Like , instead of staying on one

22:00

similar type of style and beat like you

22:02

wanted to really push yourself and those

22:04

beats helped .

22:05

You do that Because I had to live up to the level

22:07

of the beat that was provided to me , to be honest , because

22:09

I can't say enough about K-6 .

22:12

Those beats are crazy .

22:14

There was one or two beats . I think it was Safari

22:16

Diamonds . Safari yeah , Safari

22:19

Diamonds is the name of one of the tracks and he was like dude

22:21

, I don't know about this one .

22:21

I was like I know about this one .

22:23

Yeah , yeah , yeah , I know about

22:25

this one , so is

22:27

that a single ? Is that like a solo

22:29

song ?

22:30

No , no , no . We're not going to spoil anything

22:32

. We're going to drop it all together .

22:34

Okay , no , no , no , I'm saying

22:36

is that like a solo song .

22:49

Like no features on it . Oh yeah , no worries , no worries , don't , don't , don't , I'm creeping

22:51

. No , but , no , but that's it . No , that's a real question too , like , um , so like the first four tracks

22:53

uh , just me , and then the last two of the features okay

22:55

, what can we get ?

22:55

the names , the names , yeah , so um 32

22:58

with yusef , and then um 32

23:00

with Yusef , and then

23:03

MJD

23:05

is the last song . Yeah , mjd

23:09

is one of Anthony's favorite players , so I'm expecting that to be brought up .

23:11

Who also wore 32 . Ah

23:13

and within those two songs we

23:15

each have 32 bars . Yeah , woo

23:17

, right . So

23:20

I'm excited for you guys to hear that .

23:21

Now we're getting spicy . Exactly that

23:23

was time for me to shut up and listen .

23:29

Like he , I mean I'm excited that was time for me to shut up . Like he , I mean we had , like , the samples

23:31

that I don't know if you want to speak to , like how you found the samples yes , bro , manly , I mean

23:33

honestly the samples is .

23:35

There's this little website , if

23:37

if a producer's watching . There's a website called samplet

23:40

io . Every single

23:42

sample that was found on this project was found

23:44

on that website , yeah

23:46

, I don't think I I individually

23:49

like found a sample , no , I just just

23:51

shuffle it's like the website

23:53

is cool , it's like it's like a youtube

23:56

, but like it shuffles just like old

23:58

. It's really old songs , like samples , it's

24:00

fire , yeah , so like I just kept shuffling

24:02

until I found all six basically

24:05

love that .

24:05

So I I want to know , like , in your perspective

24:08

, like anthony's really giving like

24:10

your beats a lot of credits , I want to know , like what went into

24:12

like those beats , like how much time would you say

24:14

it took you to like with , with

24:16

like the samples and like all that , to like put

24:18

it together when it was like all right , this is a finished

24:20

project and it's ready to kill it . Uncle t Tony's ready to

24:23

kill us .

24:23

Because

24:26

we started off , I think what we

24:28

picked , the first couple beats , that I already

24:30

had . Those samples . I mean I was

24:32

just locked in , I was in my zone . I

24:34

want to say the beats

24:36

, each beat that I made for the

24:38

project . I want to say it took me like

24:41

an hour and a half , two

24:43

hours , Okay .

24:44

Yeah , some life me like an hour and a half two hours . Okay , yeah , I took .

24:46

I took my time with those . I mean , it

24:48

could be less than an hour , but I took my time with those . I

24:50

made sure everything was was right how

24:52

you want yeah and like sample

24:54

sampling is is the challenge

24:57

itself so it

24:59

was , it was big to to get those

25:01

samples to align and everything but

25:03

, every single sample came

25:05

out fine .

25:06

Yeah , they really did dude , and I feel

25:08

like that was like a test too

25:10

to you , because like we

25:12

worked together in the past too , and like I

25:15

feel like that was the first time I really heard samples come

25:17

from you .

25:17

Yeah .

25:18

That was the first time I really rapped over samples like that

25:20

. You know what I mean .

25:21

Yeah , because I don't sample like that . You know what I mean . I don't , I don't like that

25:23

. Yeah , I don't , I don't like now . I do because you

25:25

know I I find it fun and I can actually make

25:27

beat for me now . Yeah , that's like

25:30

I find it fun and like it's cool now . But

25:32

it was a challenge to to

25:34

get those , those samples , on

25:36

time and everything especially to put it onto a boom

25:38

bat .

25:38

Beat like that , yeah , like

25:40

the one we got with jeff and david oh

25:43

yeah , oh my god that that one was fun to sample

25:45

, yeah , so I gotta ask like when , like when you're

25:47

creating music , like in that perspective

25:49

. Like I know you said like it came together in an hour and

25:51

a half but like I know me and have had

25:53

like multiple conversations about this and there's

25:55

like all different perspectives to it . But like I know

25:57

some people like to sit on shit and

25:59

like like re-listen to it . Some people

26:02

were were just like yo , like this

26:04

shit , this shit's ready , like right now

26:07

, how do you feel about that ? Like

26:10

, do you ever feel like that you have to sit on something to feel like it's

26:12

for , like the right person , Like is

26:14

that not something like ?

26:15

Before you go into it , I'm going to tee you up because I

26:18

think you already know what I'm going to say . But but

26:22

we had a hiccup .

26:24

Oh my God , and I don't know if K6 wants to talk

26:26

about that ?

26:26

No , we can talk about it .

26:30

Oh shit .

26:31

I mean we had done the first

26:33

two songs , two songs , three songs I

26:35

think it was Technically three , because it's two and

26:37

one- yeah , yeah , yeah , not to get into it . Don't worry . Yeah

26:44

, yeah , yeah , first three songs . And I don't know how

26:46

it happened , you got to tell it , but

26:49

we had a certain laptop issue . Okay

26:51

, that sucks . Yeah , I mean

26:53

we had you

26:55

had the hard drive .

26:57

It was just a whole Mac .

26:58

It was a whole entire thing . Damn , Not

27:01

just the tracks that we had , but the tracks that he had

27:03

beforehand too .

27:04

Yeah .

27:05

There was a lot of remaking that had to be done like thank

27:08

god we had exported the original file beforehand

27:10

and like he had mixed it at like 95

27:13

or something like that . Yeah , it

27:15

was , they were pretty much done yeah , like

27:17

we had to mix a couple tracks without

27:19

having the vocals and

27:21

stuff . Yeah which it doesn't sound like

27:24

we did , because this kid

27:28

is a gift , but we were ready to drop some

27:30

stuff . It would have been out

27:32

earlier , but we had a hiccup . The laptop

27:34

crashed and everything on it was gone

27:36

, so we had to work around

27:38

that . So we had to wait for it to be fixed . So

27:41

in the meantime we had to go into . I call

27:43

it Studio B , even though it's Studio A , because

27:48

Night at the Zoo is the name of the studio that that he's got within . Mike p

27:50

, our boy . Mike p studio , shout out . Mike p shout

27:52

out to mike p um , but uh

27:54

, we , we were in the zoo and that's the

27:56

laptop that crashed . We were going to the other studio in

27:58

the same , in the same spot and

28:01

we recorded a couple of them and then he had

28:03

brought them back into the zoo when

28:05

the laptop got fixed and mixed them up .

28:09

I'll say perfectly . The

28:14

fact that we were able to come back from that was like , yeah , it was huge , it was huge .

28:16

And the fact that the songs are at the quality that they are still

28:18

.

28:19

Yeah , that fucking Mac man , I

28:23

don't know , why I lost so many beats

28:25

. I lost so many projects Damn , it was so many beats . I lost so many projects , damn .

28:29

It was a hard moment . I literally I

28:31

bought five terabyte drives because I don't store

28:34

my shit no more .

28:35

After that happened , I bought a big one Terabyte drives

28:37

. I don't know what happened . I think I

28:40

don't know the power used to go out a lot

28:42

there .

28:43

So I think it could have just shut off without

28:45

ejecting properly . Exactly

28:48

so I think it could have just shut off without ejecting properly and exactly it .

28:50

Just it wouldn't turn back on . I took it to like the

28:52

store . They were like it's like the whole board .

28:54

I was like wow yeah , and we had tried to

28:56

re-record some of the songs , like like we

28:58

had the files originally we did a second version

29:00

of um , we did a second version of the first song is called

29:02

two tone . Yeah , uh , two tone slash

29:05

villain , because it's two songs in one . Um

29:07

, and the original plan

29:09

was to like have like all the songs fade

29:11

into each other , but I feel like , um

29:13

, it would take

29:16

away from the masterpiece that was

29:18

that song . So I'm happy , I'm

29:20

happy that we kind of made it into like

29:22

a just normal tape , like the first two , like there's

29:24

two songs in the first one , but like we

29:27

like I feel like it was a sign too . It was like slow

29:29

down , yeah , because we were

29:31

cooking yeah , we were cooking like it was like weekly

29:34

and I feel like if we didn't have

29:36

that , I feel like I would have been focused on like

29:38

the wrong things okay , instead

29:40

of like my delivery , my words and stuff like that , and

29:42

then , like we had time , I had

29:44

time to write to more stuff and that way , do

29:46

you write in the studio sometimes , or like , do

29:49

you usually ?

29:49

I feel like the entire tape .

29:50

I did , yeah , you would come

29:52

you had an idea and then you would just , you would finish

29:54

it off , yeah .

29:55

I would come with like 16 bars prepared and

29:57

then write the rest on spot .

29:59

So is there a vibe for the album

30:01

Like ? Is there something that like is like , corresponding

30:04

throughout ?

30:05

all six songs Like a defining theme

30:07

. You're saying .

30:08

Yeah , is there something you're trying

30:10

to deliver with this ?

30:11

Yeah , tell me

30:14

. If I know you agree , I'm not even going to ask you .

30:16

No song is the same .

30:17

Okay .

30:18

Yeah , no delivery

30:20

is . There's similar deliveries

30:23

, because obviously every artist has their

30:25

own style and how they deliver and stuff like that .

30:27

But that's part of the challenge that you said that we would talk about , and that's

30:29

part of the reason why it's two-tone . Okay .

30:31

Because it's like I try to do more than one

30:33

tone flow .

30:34

To the song .

30:35

To each and every song .

30:37

Yeah .

30:37

Like no tone or flow is repeated

30:39

.

30:39

Okay , so there's a lot of meaning

30:41

behind the words that are all corresponding with

30:43

this , and we also leave it up to like the listeners

30:46

perspective too .

30:47

Okay how they see it , you know so

30:49

.

30:50

But Okay , how many projects do

30:52

you feel like you've been involved with

30:54

, and where does this one really

30:56

stack up ? This ?

30:57

one I want to say is my number one

30:59

.

30:59

Yeah .

31:00

I'm . I'm looking forward to it . This

31:02

is probably the most professional

31:04

, serious project I've taken . Okay

31:09

, this is probably the most professional , serious project I've taken . Okay , you know , just from doing

31:11

everything from the start , from

31:13

making the beats to engineering

31:15

Tony's vocals , to mastering , to

31:17

coming on a podcast and talking about it , to coming

31:20

on a podcast .

31:20

Literally .

31:21

You know , this is probably the most

31:23

serious one , the most

31:25

exciting one , that I

31:28

can't wait to release .

31:29

Yeah , I feel the same way .

31:30

To be honest , like yeah this one was my

31:34

mission with this one was I wanted to show everyone what

31:36

I could do okay , and you did , and I

31:38

can't wait . Exactly I wanted to

31:41

really stamp my name

31:43

like okay , like he means business

31:45

like people in Boston need to come hit

31:48

up case . Yeah , like like this kid

31:50

is not not uh he's not a basement

31:52

producer anymore he's not a basement producer

31:54

.

31:54

He , he , this is what he does like yo like

31:56

come get a track and like

31:58

you'll be coming back .

31:59

Yeah , yeah , yeah , that's . That

32:02

was not even a rapper yeah

32:06

, that's .

32:06

That's was my goal with this .

32:08

I love that and

32:10

I feel like other times you work

32:12

through singles , projects , eps , whatever

32:15

the case may be . You felt like this one

32:17

.

32:17

You feel like this one's different , and I give

32:19

a lot of credit to K6 too , because obviously I

32:22

have two albums out now . You like those albums ? I do yes , yes

32:24

, even the stuff . But you like those

32:27

albums ? I do , yes , yes .

32:28

Even , even the stuff you do with Migs .

32:29

Yeah , the stuff so , like Migs

32:32

has . Migs has always been

32:34

there to like help me within the creation of the song

32:36

itself but , like , obviously , when it comes

32:38

down to creating the album , it's a solo album .

32:40

Yeah .

32:40

Right . So , like having

32:42

K6 , having collaborated

32:44

with him on the entire album as a whole

32:46

, like he was able

32:49

to like , bring me back down to earth and

32:51

like and say , like , okay , hold

32:53

on . Like we need to do this . And like , like

32:57

, do this differently . Like he , it was

32:59

awesome to have another voice in there

33:01

instead of me , just like , because I feel like

33:03

at the beginning A trusted voice , exactly a trusted voice

33:05

, for sure .

33:10

Because , like , I feel like at the trusted voice exactly a trusted voice , for sure because , like , I feel like you've gone to the studio

33:12

with a bunch of different artists and shit like that , but I just feel like , sometimes , like , as like an artist

33:14

, like it's a different perspective than as a producer and I feel like

33:17

like being able to have that what makes you now having

33:19

that , like with k6 , like kind of

33:21

I don't want to say that you couldn't learn that from

33:23

like another artist , because , like , absolutely you could

33:25

. But there's a difference when

33:27

, like , they know how , like that , the beat that they're making

33:29

, or they know , like , how it's being engineered and how that

33:31

can complement your style and your voice and how

33:33

I would sound on it so like it's different

33:36

, like I've had feedback from

33:38

like , from from artists

33:40

too that have been very helpful , like aj and perry

33:42

, and of course true , like Everyone , not

33:44

taking anything away .

33:45

Yeah exactly , but like Getting

33:47

the , the constructive , not only

33:49

feedback , but like Planning and

33:52

like the game plan .

33:53

This is a bit different From a producer and an engineer

33:56

Like Again .

33:57

Like I said , migs has helped me with that too , but like K6

34:01

Made these beats , so he's like .

34:04

He knows how to best compliment goes and it's like

34:06

an hour tape . You know what ?

34:07

I mean yeah .

34:10

I feel like Migs and K6 are

34:12

the only ones that have been able to do that for me , especially

34:15

K6 . Now , with this tape coming out , I'm

34:17

just excited for everyone to hear it .

34:18

Is there any story that's being told through

34:20

?

34:21

this . I think we're just kind of showing

34:23

off , to be honest .

34:24

That's cool too .

34:25

That's cool too I mean , it's

34:28

just , we're here yeah this

34:30

is what we do yeah , it's like a kick in the door type

34:32

of tape . You know what I mean this

34:35

is what we do .

34:36

That's that's all I have to say .

34:37

We're both doing different , like we're both doing something

34:39

different and it's like , and it's

34:41

not like different , like like

34:43

, oh , this is cool . It's like , oh damn , like this

34:46

is for real , yeah , so y'all been

34:48

doing this .

34:48

I want to know how long it it took , even

34:51

with all those hiccups included , to make this

34:53

. Um , what were the studio sessions

34:55

like ?

34:56

studio sessions were great . Yeah , they were great they were always

34:58

good yeah , at least once a week yeah

35:01

and then when I had the little mac

35:03

, hiccup I took a little bit of a break where

35:05

it was like .

35:06

It was like a all-star break .

35:07

There was like multiple hiccups

35:09

there was like the Mac , remember , yeah the Mac

35:11

. The cars , my car got sold .

35:13

I think your car wasn't working .

35:14

Oh shit , yeah , daughter

35:16

world , yeah , daughter , yeah .

35:19

Yeah father duty .

35:21

Shout out Fina . Exactly . Shout out Sarah F of . Serafina

35:24

and then , like having Morgan be able to

35:26

watch Serafina for the night , you know , and stuff like that Shout

35:28

out to Morgan While she's doing like school

35:31

and two businesses she's doing school , so like I have

35:33

my brothers cleaning all your dishes .

35:36

Like being able , and then like having to work from

35:38

8 to 5.30 every day .

35:40

We got a Chubby Cherub bar in there don

35:48

don't we ?

35:48

Yeah , we do have . We have a Chubby Cherub bar in there . Shout out to Chubby Cherub , we do .

35:50

My fiance Morgan's clothing line that she's making for babies and adults . Now Get yours today . Shop

35:52

chubbycherubcom . We got Tampa coming up .

35:54

We got Tampa coming up for Morgan

35:56

and I getting married in September . Hey , so

35:59

within planning of all that . And then we had like

36:02

, if you didn't know , joint bachelor bachelorette

36:04

might be the .

36:05

Your wedding might be the drunkest I've

36:07

been in probably five , six years I

36:09

don't drink . It might be the only time Steve has

36:11

gotten drunk since the feast when we were behind

36:17

the Starbucks , but that's another story for another time

36:19

. Yeah , absolutely , um , but no

36:22

, I want . I want to hear the song which

36:24

I know , like we started to talk about it , but Two

36:26

.

36:26

Tone Two . Tone Villain is

36:29

the start of it .

36:31

Two in one .

36:31

Yep , and then we have- 21,

36:33

.

36:34

You said Two in one . Two in one .

36:36

That's a two in one song , okay .

36:37

That's what I'm saying , and we have

36:39

Mixed .

36:39

Personalities , which

36:42

is the definition of the

36:44

reason why it's two tone , you

36:47

know what I mean , which is that boom bap type . And then the

36:49

delivery of Safari

36:52

Diamond is next , which is the beat

36:54

that he didn't originally like , and now it's our favorite

36:56

song .

36:57

Safari Diamond . And what

36:59

was the other one ? There was another one MJD .

37:01

You said no , we have Attack of the Clones

37:03

. Yes , that beat .

37:05

I wasn't feeling . I wasn't feeling that beat .

37:06

Yeah , he wasn't feeling Attack of the Clones , but Tony showed me otherwise

37:08

. Was he at the show ? Of course he was .

37:10

Yeah , he was Okay . Oh damn , I didn't get introduced

37:13

to the show .

37:16

Because you performed Attack of the Clones . Yeah

37:28

, I opened with .

37:28

Attack of the Clones . But I was do this , that was my no , that was um , that was , uh , what's it called ? That was records , because I was like dude , because

37:30

, like you said , was going crazy in the background because you're doing headbanging in the

37:32

back . Yeah , no , but he was like I feel like he was getting

37:34

amped up , because I literally knew like most

37:36

of the words like like when we

37:38

get like the apple replay at the end of the year . Every

37:41

single year , anthony's been top three for like the past

37:43

like three years .

37:44

Oh yeah , let's go so and like I

37:46

again , like as a refresher , but like I was mad

37:48

sick for that show . Like cough

37:51

and sneeze and like I was , I'm pretty sure I was sipping

37:53

dayquil in between songs like

37:56

blowing my nose in between songs and like I

37:58

couldn't talk after like I just I

38:00

wasn't like I didn't drink . I didn't do

38:02

nothing during the show like I was on

38:04

water allergy medss .

38:07

You know what I mean .

38:08

So that's definitely why I didn't make the introduction Cause

38:10

I wasn't thinking about it .

38:11

That was just thinking about my health . Nah , you

38:13

had enough to worry about at the time and like , even

38:16

like , like Dave and Ryan , like

38:18

Dave , dave , yeah , yeah , jeff and Dave , yeah

38:20

, dave

38:23

, yeah , like those guys are doing their thing . We

38:25

worked with them too , so we have a couple tracks with them um

38:27

yo they're gonna get , they're gonna get

38:29

in the studio . I'm saying , yeah , yeah , we get it . I'm gonna

38:31

, hopefully , I'm gonna you're gonna , you're gonna make that happen .

38:33

Yeah , I got you I got you , but

38:36

yeah , we have . Uh , we have some things going on there

38:38

, so love that in the future for sure all

38:40

right .

38:41

So so this , this project drops may

38:43

17th . What

38:45

do you guys got going on for the summer ? Is it like yo

38:47

, like this ? Is this is gonna be here for the summer

38:49

? Is there something that you're working on through the

38:51

summer ? K6 what you got going on um

38:53

because some , some of music

38:55

. I feel like music popping through the summer , of course

38:58

, yeah yeah , I don't have anything scheduled

39:00

right now .

39:01

I don't have anything scheduled now , just just the

39:03

tony project . Um

39:06

, yeah , a couple I I might have

39:08

some singles here and there , but that's

39:11

not finalized yet . Okay .

39:12

You hopping on a beat at all . Me

39:14

yeah , nah , I don't know

39:17

, Come on man , Come on man . I

39:19

tried it years ago . I asked him already . We had this conversation

39:21

. I tried it years ago , but nah

39:23

, it's not for me , that's all good .

39:28

That go , but nah , it's not for me , that's all good that's all good .

39:29

I can't . I can't get behind the , I can't get behind the computer . Yeah , I wish I could

39:31

do what he does . You know what I mean , yeah yeah , so um

39:34

I gotta be really drunk to even

39:36

to even attempt to go

39:38

behind the booth .

39:41

I gotta be gone anything

39:43

you want to say about the summer yeah , um

39:46

.

39:46

So Obviously , me and

39:48

K6 are looking to get at least one of the visuals

39:50

done for one of the songs that we won't say , let

39:53

me know , I'll let you know in the future , but

39:57

I do . So . This

39:59

is coming out May 17th , so you get 10 days . It's

40:03

going to be everywhere that music is streamed . Speaking

40:07

of our boy , migs . Migs

40:09

and I have been working on a tape for three

40:12

years now , and

40:14

the reason why it's taken so long

40:16

is because obviously he's moving to

40:18

Florida . My

40:21

daughter's turning two now in June . So

40:24

Migs and I do have a tape coming out as well , but

40:27

this is a different Migs . This is Migs behind

40:29

the mic , so like

40:31

it's not an engine , it's an engineer Migs as well . K6 also had helped on this tape . A different mix this is mix behind the mic , so like it's not a engine , it's a engineer

40:33

mix as well . K6 also had helped

40:35

on this tape with the engineering and the mixing

40:37

as well . But um , mix

40:40

is mix has been he didn't

40:42

produce like , he was just solely

40:44

on the mic , yeah . So , like I'm

40:46

excited for people to hear more of him as well , let's go , because he's more

40:48

of him as well .

40:48

Let's go .

40:49

Because he's not just an engineer , he's not

40:51

just a producer Like his man can go behind the mic .

40:54

You know what I ?

40:54

mean . So I'm excited for you guys to hear that that's

40:56

called the overdue EP .

40:58

Oh for sure , yeah , that sounds

41:01

right .

41:01

But you know , I'm really

41:03

excited for

41:06

this one man . You

41:14

, anthony's gonna be performing August 17th at the Sins of Sandbox 5 year event . 5 years , 5 stars , no

41:16

less .

41:16

K6 is gonna pop by .

41:18

I'm gonna pop out . I'm

41:21

gonna pop out . For sure , we're gonna do a live podcast

41:23

everyone's gonna have some

41:25

drinks we're gonna sell some merch .

41:26

We're gonna have a live performance .

41:27

We're gonna take everyone to Eastie we're

41:31

gonna come have a good .

41:32

I'm sure you'll be doing your show again in November .

41:34

No , Not

41:38

a specific date , but .

41:39

I do want to have outside

41:42

of the event that we got for Cinta Sandbox

41:45

. I'm definitely going to do . I'm

41:47

not going to do the whole tape there , but

41:50

I definitely want to have a show for that tape .

41:52

Good , let's go .

41:54

But , visuals .

41:55

we got two-tone K6 , man I'm excited for

41:58

you , hey , I can't wait . I'm excited man .

42:00

I just want you guys to hear the beat that this dude made Like it's

42:02

crazy Taking the trip from Lowell man . I

42:05

appreciate that coming down to the sandbox . I

42:07

you got another session after this too . That's a . That's

42:09

a busy work of man , trying to make his vision come

42:11

to life . That's all I'm trying

42:13

, I'm trying , but before we

42:15

, before we talk about um , you

42:17

know what's going on in the music world right

42:19

now , just want to give you guys the floor for

42:21

anything that you want to share about , like your music

42:24

journey and maybe some like goals and like your music career

42:26

yeah

42:28

I'll go first .

42:29

I mean my . Obviously the end goal for me

42:31

, man , is just a big placement , really

42:33

big placement . Hell yeah , you know , more multiple

42:36

big placements . That's the goal for

42:38

me . I don't really care , the money will eventually come

42:40

, but I just want to make good music

42:42

and I'm trying to get this

42:44

vlogging shit going .

42:45

So subscribe to my YouTube . Subscribe

42:48

to my youtube . That's why you got the camera

42:50

subscribe to my youtube .

42:51

You know , I'm just trying to be what's the channel

42:53

? Night at the zoo , baby prod by k6 all

42:55

together okay , yeah , prod by k6 the show is

42:57

night at the zoo , baby night at the zoo .

43:00

Yeah , 100% love that you

43:02

can catch Bart Simpson hanging from the wall in the

43:04

background yeah , bart , yeah , I got a Bart

43:06

Simpson .

43:07

Yeah , yeah .

43:08

And definitely , definitely . I've been tuned

43:10

into that channel for sure .

43:12

Yeah , I mean we've been progressing pretty

43:14

good so far . Five videos in . First

43:17

we did the night at the zoo . I did four solo

43:20

vlogs just me making beats .

43:22

I was on two of them .

43:23

Let's go , yes , nice , yes . Actually

43:26

, I can't wait to listen . I was working on that one . Oh , I was working

43:28

on that one . Oh , nice Hell yeah

43:31

.

43:31

Let's go dude and like any other

43:34

goals that you wanted to share , before we talk

43:36

about the beef man .

43:38

Like I feel , like I've

43:40

spoken to it before , but like I

43:42

don't have , like I'm not doing this for

43:45

any certain . I'm doing it because I just love it . You

43:53

know what I mean . Like I'm not doing it with any like . Like yeah'd be nice to to make money doing something

43:55

that I love , like this , but at the same time , like I got a job . You know what I mean . Like I'm just doing this because it's

43:57

like you're passionate about

43:59

, I'm confident in my ability to do it . I'm passionate

44:01

about it , like I know I'm good at it .

44:02

You know like yeah , I feel like it'd be a waste of time

44:05

, like if I didn't do it , you know what I mean like same

44:07

here , like my , my whole thing

44:09

, like with , with , like all of this is

44:11

like there's some days that like and

44:13

I I know you guys can relate that are just like yo

44:16

, like do I , should I really be

44:18

doing this ? Or like this is really hard to like do

44:20

on top of everything else I'm doing . But

44:22

, like the question I always ask myself , the second

44:24

, that I think that I'm like 20 years

44:26

from now , am I going to be happy about that decision ? Because

44:29

I love doing this shit , I love

44:31

doing this .

44:31

I love doing it too , and , like you know , there's I've

44:34

given up , there's I've given up multiple

44:36

times , Like I've gone six months

44:38

multiple months without even touching

44:40

a thing , but like I always found myself coming back

44:43

to it .

44:43

Yeah .

44:44

So like that's kind of I

44:56

found that out years ago . I was like , okay , there's a reason I'm coming back to it . You know , yeah , I'm good at what I do for sure , so I care about

44:58

it exactly that means something . Exactly , yeah , for sure , you know it's , it's

45:01

huge , like I haven't dropped the tape since 2021 , 22 before my daughter was born still

45:03

resonating

45:05

, which is nice , but like , I

45:08

mean , this is like , this is like the , the comeback

45:10

for real , like and I'm very thankful to k6

45:12

for helping me .

45:12

Like come out of the hiatus for sure

45:15

.

45:15

Like obviously like it's in the way and stuff like that

45:17

.

45:17

But like like I , I

45:19

was a little rusty at the stop , but like let's

45:21

go back and like I still got it you

45:24

know we're ready .

45:25

Yeah , I'm amped up .

45:26

Shout out to you two-tone k6 baby , let's go , let's

45:28

go , let's go we really amped up .

45:30

are going to see more about that on socials

45:32

, but the music game is crazy

45:35

right now .

45:35

Yo , the music game has really

45:37

taken over the world

45:39

.

45:40

Danielle came to me the other day and she hears

45:42

all this shit because I make sure that she hears this

45:44

, but she came to me and she was like yo

45:46

I see so many . She didn't say yo , she

45:49

was like yes , like I see so many .

45:50

She didn't say yo , steven , yes

45:52

.

45:53

Yeah , she was probably like Sven .

45:55

Yeah , Sven .

45:56

Yeah , just fucking around .

45:57

Sven from Drake . Yeah , yeah , right

45:59

.

45:59

She was like I see so many people on TikTok

46:02

like talking about it now and I'm just like , if you're

46:04

seeing that like on TikTok , like on your

46:06

For you page , you know , like like

46:08

on the makeup for you page , this is huge

46:10

but like this has really been going on

46:13

since like march 22nd , like like

46:15

we're here at may now , like like

46:17

when like that first came out and we were like oh

46:19

shit , like how's this all gonna go . Like we

46:22

just came off of a weekend where we got four

46:24

drops in four days . Like like crazy

46:26

shit and like we're talking assassination attempts

46:29

, yes , yes , via words

46:31

of course so . So we're talking about

46:33

all this . I want to hear what your takeaways

46:35

are , your biggest impressions , least favorite

46:37

part of all of this , and how

46:40

you think this is going to impact the summer

46:42

of 2024 . Because this is just

46:44

the start of whatever's going to happen

46:46

. What I just

46:48

kind of want to say with all this is I think that think that

46:50

there was a lot of like personal shit

46:52

that was like like I said , that was brought out in

46:54

all of this . Um , I'm happy . I'm happy

46:57

about like all the music , but

46:59

like the slander is like a

47:01

little bit crazy , like like in a rap

47:03

diss . It was very vulgar the fact that

47:05

like Kendrick addressed Drake's

47:07

parents and said like hey , like I want

47:10

this dude to die .

47:12

Like , like , that's a good thing .

47:13

I'm sorry you exist , basically like

47:15

Dennis , wear a fucking condom like

47:17

. That's why but

47:20

also , at the same time , like what I want

47:22

to say and , like Ant , I know it

47:24

would probably pain you to admit this , but

47:26

when Damn dropped in 2017

47:28

, if you said in 2017 that Drake

47:30

would be going song for song with kendrick

47:33

, we all probably would have said yo , like

47:35

you're crazy .

47:35

And I just feel like there needs to be like a little

47:38

bit more respect to drake

47:40

, because he's doing that

47:42

like yeah , they did hold his

47:44

own , for sure , yeah , he held his own

47:46

, they did yeah yeah , he definitely

47:48

did , bro , look , look , I don't , I don't

47:50

want to hear like none of that , because every single

47:53

artist legit has a team

47:55

as part of them . Now , okay , Let

47:58

me jump in real quick because I

48:01

know I say a lot about Drake . Obviously

48:03

, drake doesn't have a legit

48:06

team of writers . That's a joke . He

48:08

definitely has some writers , for sure . That's been addressed

48:11

. That's been addressed , that's been proven right

48:13

. But like Kendrick

48:15

Lamar and J Cole , like they

48:18

don't Like , that's a fact

48:20

.

48:20

There were some artists in

48:22

some of the recent stuff , I'm just saying , I'm just

48:25

saying Some lyricists , and

48:27

if they do , it's not at

48:30

the scale or

48:32

the volume of songs

48:34

that Drake has , I believe .

48:36

I mean Drake's written songs for Alicia Keys

48:38

, rihanna and stuff right .

48:39

I agree . I just think

48:41

that in the music game , if you don't have

48:43

a team that's doing that , then you're just like

48:45

. I don't want to say you're

48:47

not on that level by any means , but

48:56

when you get there you have multiple people that are going to check and help that

48:59

you are producing the , the quality of a product , that that you feel like should

49:01

reflect you as an artist .

49:01

I promise you right now cole does not have anyone checking

49:04

his lyrics because he don't need to like not checking

49:06

his . I'm saying I'm saying okay , but I'm saying

49:08

like he don't have , he doesn't have a second pen in there

49:10

. Cole does not have

49:12

a second pen .

49:13

I don't think that that's what the prominent

49:15

part of the argument should be . My

49:18

thing is obviously like let's

49:21

just focus on the music , yeah we're focusing on the music

49:23

itself .

49:25

Some of it gets clouded to me as

49:27

an artist and obviously I'm not on that level

49:29

of Drake in Kendrick . We

49:32

will be . No , absolutely Aspirations , for sure , as an artist

49:34

and obviously like I'm not on that level of drake in kendrick , so like

49:37

, but you know like as an artist myself

49:39

, it takes away

49:41

from it , for me personally , if

49:44

the lyrics didn't solely come from you

49:46

and I'm sure , I'm sure

49:48

, like , at the end of the day , like realistically , like , no , like

49:50

when it comes to the distance and stuff , like they may

49:52

have had a hand , but like , I'm sure , like they

49:54

definitely wrote it themselves .

49:55

Yeah .

49:56

Obviously Right , but like I just like making

49:58

that joke because I'm Team Kendrick all the way and I'm just

50:00

looking for something , to hand-trick ?

50:01

No , of course , you know what I mean .

50:02

Of course .

50:13

But like I say it , I lose a little bit of uh , yeah , respect , yeah , no , I know that's not

50:15

solely from you , so , yeah , I don't know . No , like and like I said , like that it's all fair . I just

50:17

feel like , with this beef got like that serious

50:20

. I don't feel like that's a serious part of like

50:22

the conversation . It's more like the jabs

50:24

that like we want to discuss . But but six

50:26

like , as as ant says , that like

50:28

, how do you feel like about all that ?

50:31

I love this . I love this

50:33

rap beef . I mean , if you got writers , I want

50:37

to discredit it just a little bit .

50:39

Just a little bit , just a little bit , just a little bit .

50:41

Everyone has their team , everyone has their camp . But

50:44

I want to discredit it just a little bit , because

50:47

it's not the camp against

50:49

Kendrick , it's Drake against Kendrick

50:51

.

50:53

That's well said , that's the only way .

50:54

I'll discredit it just a little bit , but overall

50:56

, drake has been holding his

50:58

own yeah , yeah I'm kendrick

51:00

as well . I mean , I fuck with drake too , drake's

51:03

, you know I also listen to drake .

51:05

But I don't want my opinion

51:08

to like .

51:08

Make you guys , yeah , yeah but like , see

51:10

, like , and what you asked earlier

51:12

, you said , um , what is it ? Is there

51:14

something that you don't like about what's going on ? And I

51:17

, I love , obviously

51:19

, like , like everyone else , like I'm a big fan of , like

51:22

the rap beef . It's entertaining , right , it's fun , love

51:24

it . I'm

51:33

not a fan of that . It got to that , it got to of the jazz . It's like , okay , like that's a big allegation

51:35

. Like , like , why are you rapping about that ? Like I and at the same time , but like , if that shit is real

51:38

, like come to light . Like that shit is not right , you know , I mean

51:40

, like that shit is real , like I want it to come

51:42

to light so I , I can understand , like who I'm listening

51:44

to and like adjust accordingly . It's like , you

51:46

know , I mean , but like , if that's not true

51:48

, like , don't put that in the song .

51:49

Yeah , like leave that shit out . I want

51:51

to know like , in you guys' honest

51:54

opinion , with all the information that we know , do

51:56

you guys actually believe Drake's a pedophile ? I mean

51:58

, I wouldn't doubt it .

52:00

I would . I just feel

52:02

like he's too big .

52:03

You never know nowadays , Like you really never know

52:05

.

52:05

This is cancel culture , though .

52:07

Yeah , Exactly , yeah , exactly , and I'm like I don't , I don't know

52:09

, I don't I don't think he's a pedophile .

52:10

I think like there's shit that you can question , like

52:13

yeah , there's a lot of questioning shit like

52:15

but to ?

52:16

say like a pedophile , like it's sex trafficking

52:18

and all that , like I don't think that's like yeah , but

52:21

like it also doesn't help that like I

52:23

don't know it , kind of the last diss

52:25

that he he put out , he kind of said he basically

52:28

said he wanted to stop yeah and

52:30

like , and I don't know why would you ?

52:31

want to stop after all these allegations .

52:33

The hot pot sticks you talk about yeah

52:35

, and to come

52:38

out to hear the disses

52:40

from Kendrick .

52:42

Kendrick means that shit ? Yeah , he does , and

52:44

he's been in the industry . For what did

52:46

he say ? 12 years , yeah , 12 years .

52:48

Kendrick said that shit with his upper lip

52:50

was like quivering and like he was like angry

52:53

, saying it like I also think it took Kendrick

52:55

like a little bit to get to that point , though , like

52:58

I told you , like that first diss that , like

53:00

he dropped what was it ? Like the 616

53:02

in , like in LA , like that Father's .

53:03

Day shit .

53:12

Oh yeah , you yeah , euphoria was really good . I

53:14

, I liked , I liked push-ups and and I

53:16

liked um family matters

53:19

, like I thought they were all good and what I will say , like

53:21

with drake stuff , I thought it was like really unique that

53:23

push-ups led into like family matters too

53:25

, like what ?

53:25

like the beat and like all that , like he just

53:28

finished it off and then picked it , picked it right

53:30

back up .

53:30

My my thing is like for

53:32

drake to come out and the first thing to to

53:35

combat is the daughter allegations over

53:37

everything else is like bro , you don't , but

53:39

that was so , like I just I feel like the reason

53:42

why that that came out was because

53:44

he intentionally spread

53:47

that false information to kendrick like he

53:49

don't have like that daughter and like that was already like

53:51

factual and that's why not like us .

53:53

Came out like right after yeah , okay , like

53:55

so , yeah , but that's , that's good yeah yeah

53:58

, why ?

53:58

because you , you don't like he actually does .

54:00

No , I just , I just like , I'm just like confused

54:02

as to like the first thing that you , that

54:05

you're saying no to , is like

54:07

the daughter thing after everything else that he said

54:09

because he had a lot of allegations

54:11

and the first , the only thing that I saw

54:13

him decline until he dropped , I think , the heart

54:15

part six .

54:17

He was only declining that he , he didn't

54:19

have a daughter yeah , he wasn't declining the

54:21

pedal stuff . Yeah , he wasn't the

54:23

hot six like yeah he did but

54:25

but before , not like before .

54:27

That you're right and like , but I just feel like if

54:30

you're , if you're defending

54:32

yourself , like in the argument , you're also not

54:34

dissing the person if you're defending yourself right

54:36

, yeah you know . So like I feel like that's part

54:39

of it and and just

54:41

just because like I think , like kendrick said

54:43

, like a lot of crazy and I liked I

54:45

don't want to say I liked it because I didn't want to get like the kids

54:48

involved and like they're like adult as me butass beef but

54:50

legit addressing Adonis and all that shit and

54:53

how to be a father to your kid , because that's

54:55

the thing . And that's also another reason why I feel

54:57

like Cole's out , because

54:59

he is a dad .

55:00

He wants to be involved , he don't go there . Yeah , and

55:03

I respect Cole for that , yeah .

55:04

And Kendrick , he is a dad

55:07

too , but is one of those kids . Dave Freed

55:09

? Yeah

55:15

too , but like , is one of those kid day free ? Yeah , we don't know . But but I

55:17

do think , like just as serious as like the the paraphernalia talking

55:19

about um with drake , like I think it's

55:21

just as bad if kendrick actually did beat

55:23

on his girl and like hired a crisis management

55:25

team but , I think it it

55:27

aligns with the timeline on

55:29

why kendrick was absent for like such

55:32

a long time too , like I think there's a

55:34

lot of things , and that's why I said like I don't think it

55:36

worked out for either of them , because a

55:38

lot of the , a lot of these timelines are adding

55:40

up and the stuff that's not adding up , like yeah , we're

55:42

asking like , why wasn't that addressed ? Why wasn't that exactly

55:44

? That's yeah , but what I , what I will say is the

55:47

the main thing for drake . I

55:49

don't want to say it was like , oh my God . Like yeah , this is

55:51

his saving grace Cause , not by any means , like that's

55:53

not , that's not something that you

55:56

just like say and you just like forget about it

55:58

. Like , but but the girl that they

56:00

said that was like 16

56:02

, like on stage , that he gave like a kiss on

56:04

the cheek , or whatever .

56:17

She made a statement like today and literally said like it was nothing like you guys are like

56:19

yeah , like that's nothing , yeah , that that's so like , so , like when , when you hear the pet , the pedophile

56:21

stuff , like you guys , thinking like did diddy level shit .

56:22

I mean like I I know for a fact because like that's a crazy , that's aggressive , like diddy

56:26

is crazy , like , like , like that that's aggressive

56:29

for sure , like and and I'm , and I'm sure in

56:31

the coming months , years or whatever , we'll

56:33

find out more .

56:34

Dirt will be uncovered on .

56:36

I don't know if it'll be Drake , but it'll be . I guarantee

56:38

you that it wasn't just him . Like there's

56:41

someone , there's a couple other players in that thing

56:43

that aren't revealed at the time yeah

56:45

, like I'm not a job .

56:46

A lot of people are saying like when this whole diddy shit was

56:48

happening , everyone was saying jay-z is next

56:50

that's what I was gonna say , but yeah

56:53

, I heard that , like that's why , like he hasn't came

56:55

out and like talked about .

56:56

Yeah , that's why they're

56:58

just banking on that beyonce country album right

57:00

now that

57:04

might have started in texas it's

57:08

all gonna come to light .

57:09

Yeah , it's all gonna come to light eventually . No , I know , but

57:11

I mean my biggest impression

57:14

what it was like . This is why these are two

57:16

of like the , the biggest dudes like in the game

57:18

. Um , I still personally think

57:20

it's a big three and if you wanted to say it was a

57:22

fantastic four , like with future

57:24

like I'm not taking anything away from that

57:26

like futures had a different impact

57:29

than those three dudes . Yep , and

57:31

like the , the spotlight that

57:33

he got and I feel like kind

57:36

of came a little bit after , like

57:38

when they first kind of got out there and I feel

57:40

like that's why people kind of

57:42

leave him out of that conversation , but I would say

57:44

those three dudes are around since

57:46

oh nine . I feel like Cole is the most different

57:48

dude out of out of the three

57:50

from that time . Like I feel like who

57:52

he was when he was first coming out , like

57:54

with Friday Night Lights and shit , like that is a

57:56

very different person than who he is now . I feel like

57:58

Drake still makes a lot of like the pop

58:00

and the hits , yeah . And I feel like Kendrick is like

58:02

his true identity .

58:04

Yeah , Kendrick just lets you sit with

58:06

his words .

58:07

Yeah , and I think , like I

58:10

think think part of the reason why

58:12

Cole backed out . I do think that there was conversation

58:14

between Kendrick and Cole

58:16

. I mean they had that . I'm still

58:18

waiting on that .

58:20

Oh , black Friday , the Black Friday tape .

58:23

So it did break my heart a little bit when that came out

58:25

and I'm happy . Well , I came to

58:27

you at first and I was like yo stand on that

58:29

shit , cole , don't pull back .

58:31

No he did and like I just I have

58:33

to share , like my opinion with that , like I just

58:35

don't think like you enlightened me for sure , yeah cole

58:37

. I don't think he's like a passive-aggressive dude and

58:39

like I think he would rather the opinion

58:41

of someone saying , oh , this dude's a bitch , he apologized

58:44

and keep his life and still be

58:46

a successful artist for over

58:48

a decade he wasn't touching the beef . Yeah

58:50

, yeah , yeah and , like I said , like there

58:53

might if , if he was in the beef , there might

58:55

not have been that shit to come out about cole too

58:57

.

58:57

Yeah , you know , kendrick was like yo , it's

58:59

about to get really serious , like are you really down to be

59:01

in this beef right now ?

59:03

but like I feel , like I feel

59:05

like they couldn't have , like I don't know , like that

59:07

cole was involved in , like scandals like that

59:10

.

59:10

His girl wasn't involved

59:12

with that .

59:13

He's a father to his kid .

59:16

He's been graduating college and everything . He's

59:18

riding bikes and shit , that's dude .

59:20

He sold all his clothes . This dude drives a bike

59:22

and he doesn't wear . Got the Dreamville

59:24

label and he does that shit himself . He wears Dreamville

59:27

hoodies . He made it .

59:28

Produced one of Kendrick's greatest

59:30

songs of all time too yeah , I mean he

59:32

, he's .

59:33

He's a sneaky producer .

59:34

He's produced songs for for corday

59:36

anderson pack , like yeah , you mean like he's

59:38

, but he doesn't go around like he did something

59:41

on on the blueprint , uh three I think yeah

59:43

, yeah , he did , he did what he did and

59:45

like because because I I love the fact

59:47

that , like he has like the whole east coast is

59:49

like part of like his , like he's got ties

59:52

in Atlanta , like obviously like the Carolinas

59:54

and then going up to New York and like learning to grind

59:56

like through that shit .

59:57

Like there's so many what we met . My boy

59:59

boss yeah .

1:00:00

And literally , there might not be a more

1:00:03

dynamic duo then . Then what was the song

1:00:05

we sang years back ?

1:00:06

Oh um , keys , oh Keys and oh

1:00:08

my god . We used to sing this , alicia Keys and Beyonce

1:00:10

. Say you love me , say you love

1:00:13

me .

1:00:13

Put it in the Literally in the back

1:00:15

Of the escalade .

1:00:17

Ben's like Dude you can't keep Singing the same song

1:00:19

.

1:00:19

Yeah , yeah , legit , but

1:00:22

no , yeah , this was , this , was , you know , the

1:00:24

rap beef , anything else

1:00:26

that you guys Kind of want to share , like with

1:00:28

all this , before we wrap up the episode , I just

1:00:30

wanted , I just wanted to to

1:00:32

end right now and I want matt toro to stop

1:00:34

calling you right now yeah

1:00:37

, this camera's pushing an hour , so he's gonna have to

1:00:39

wait a couple more minutes , but yeah

1:00:41

I just wanted to .

1:00:42

I think it's done now . I think it should just stop , because I don't

1:00:44

want anything crazy to happen , like I don't want anyone to get hurt

1:00:46

, nothing like that like okay , like we we've

1:00:49

, we did it like it happened , like yeah

1:00:51

the , the pock and biggie stuff back in the day ended

1:00:53

in some casualties . Obviously , like I

1:00:55

don't want , no one deserves to be

1:00:58

hurt or anything like that from this . So I think we're just , I think

1:01:00

we should just wrap it up yeah , six .

1:01:02

How was your podcast experience ? How was your time on

1:01:04

sense the sandbox ?

1:01:04

this . This was great man . This is first

1:01:07

podcast ever you're a little nervous . Uh

1:01:09

, it was at first okay uh

1:01:13

, random house yeah and then I eased into

1:01:15

it . I was like , okay , we're just yapping , it's

1:01:17

a big yap session . Uh , it was

1:01:19

great , though . Great , this was a great

1:01:21

opportunity . The rap beef

1:01:23

, I mean talk about us yeah

1:01:26

, the talk about us . It was great

1:01:28

. We're gonna have to come back real soon yeah of of course

1:01:30

. Of course I'd love to .

1:01:31

But , guys , may 17th , make sure to go

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and check out the project . It's going to

1:01:35

be crazy . Join us

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August 17th to see some

1:01:40

of that performed live . You guys

1:01:42

know you can expect episodes every single week

1:01:44

here at Sense the Sandbox . You know the deal , peace .

1:01:46

Peace , love Five .