0:14

this is Sturgeen, and today I've

0:16

got a special guest, and, um, because

0:19

of the way your name is spelled, I'm gonna

0:21

ask you to say your name.

0:24

I am niggerific energy. Um,

0:29

chill. Niggerific

0:31

Energy is the name of this person,

0:33

or at least the Twitter name, right? Or the X name.

0:36

Um, I don't know if you go by that in any other forums

0:39

or whatnot, but certainly that's how I, I met

0:41

up with you or, um, saw you and

0:43

liked some of the stuff you were posting. I think you liked some

0:46

of the stuff I was posting. And then I said, Hey man,

0:48

we should chat.

0:49

yeah, it's it's funny. I'm, I'm trying

0:52

to go by that, but I have three kids,

0:54

actually one on the way. So, we'll see,

0:57

we'll see if I can get, get away with it,

0:59

but I doubt

1:00

Huh. See how long you can go

1:02

before somebody says, wait a minute.

1:04

Yeah, I don't know.

1:07

You know what they say though, if you wanna change

1:10

the negative stereotypes or whatever associated

1:12

with it, it's just All

1:14

it is is a manner to start using it, that's all.

1:16

Right, for sure. Flipping on its head. The same

1:19

way that, that Blacks started flipping

1:21

nigga on its head. I, I honestly

1:24

it's about the intent to me, honestly.

1:26

All of my white friends say it. Um,

1:29

and every time I talk to Black people about

1:31

that, the only people who actually

1:34

have a problem with it are the women.

1:37

Um, like my black guy friends

1:39

all have white friends that they

1:42

all allow say it. So

1:44

it's it's definitely like racism

1:46

I think is solved in the,

1:49

the back alleys and then the streets

1:52

and, and, and the alleyways of

1:54

America, but it just isn't like from a national

1:57

perspective because it's convenient

1:59

for some people, you know,

2:01

Well, it's useful, I would say.

2:03

Oh, for sure,

2:04

Yeah. It's the people that

2:06

keep insisting that everybody else

2:09

is racist are actually

2:11

the ones that are racist.

2:13

Yep. For sure. For sure. They,

2:14

tell that very easily

2:16

by their behavior. And the way

2:18

that they constantly

2:21

are seeing race

2:24

and color and background

2:26

and ethnicity, where

2:28

none of the rest of us see it. Yeah.

2:32

think that there are like a small subset

2:35

of people, and I grew up in this because I

2:37

grew up in New Jersey, um,

2:39

in the inner city, so there

2:41

are a certain subset of, of blacks

2:44

who still believe the narrative

2:46

that, that people are just out

2:48

to get them, like I have family members who

2:51

will not talk to me because, and,

2:53

and I mean, I was talking to them,

2:55

put them in like a, a group to teach

2:58

them Bitcoin, And like

3:00

I'm retired at 33. So I'm trying

3:02

to teach you how to like, be

3:04

better and stuff. So, and then like

3:06

immediately found out that I was going to

3:08

vote for Trump and cut me off immediately.

3:13

You cut off your chance at early retirement

3:15

because you're so mad at Trump

3:18

because the media told you to, it's

3:20

like, it's a

3:22

no reason.

3:24

Yeah, for sure. It's it's a brainwashing

3:26

And given the guy's been basically a Democrat.

3:29

For most of his life,

3:30

I know that's the thing.

3:32

ran a Republican out of convenience

3:34

because the Republicans let him and the Democrats

3:37

were up in arms in no way.

3:39

absolutely. Yeah. Like

3:41

didn't care. He would be fine running as an independent.

3:44

That's some of the tweets and some of the messaging

3:46

that I've heard from you that I definitely agree

3:48

with on Vivek, like he's just like

3:51

far more conservative than Donald

3:53

Trump is, and like Donald, people

3:56

forget that like Donald Trump, he

3:58

basically insulted his way into

4:00

the presidency and then tried to cut deals

4:03

with all the people who just cut

4:05

him out. So like it just like your

4:07

people are trying to vote for this person

4:10

who. First

4:12

off, there's a narrative around Vivek where like

4:14

you can't trust him because he sounds like

4:16

Obama. Or you can't trust anybody

4:19

who sounds like anybody who's smart or

4:21

whatever. But it's

4:23

like Um, but

4:26

people just don't look at like Donald

4:28

Trump came into office talking

4:30

about, he's going to cut deals with all these people.

4:33

And then eventually they just got him

4:35

out of office. Like he wanted to drain the

4:37

swamp and the swamp drained him. So

4:40

it just, um,

4:41

I think Trump greatly

4:44

underestimated. The,

4:47

um, the skill, I'm

4:50

going to give him credit of politicians

4:53

to lie, cheat and steal.

4:57

For sure.

4:57

used to business people doing

4:59

that, certainly around New York. You're, you're

5:01

neck of the woods there in Jersey. Um,

5:04

but you know, so he, he kind of knows

5:07

some of what the game is like, but politics

5:10

is a whole nother level of lie, cheat and

5:12

steal. And I think Trump

5:15

assumed that he was very

5:18

good at dealing with people like

5:20

that from his business dealings

5:23

and certainly because of where most

5:25

of those were, where he started. Um,

5:28

where he made a lot of money, but

5:31

Washington DC isn't

5:33

the swamp figuratively, it's the swamp

5:35

literally. And

5:37

those folks that have been there for many years, they

5:39

know what they're doing.

5:42

Yeah, for sure. And they, they, they also

5:45

have no shame so like a

5:47

business from a business perspective, if you

5:49

start messing up in business, I'm not

5:51

sure if I'm allowed to curse on this podcast or not.

5:53

I'm sorry if I

5:54

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

5:56

But yeah, if a business starts fucking up

5:58

the market will make it pay.

6:01

So there's no shame in politicians

6:03

because they're so The

6:05

amount of people who can, um,

6:09

come into politics and say

6:11

that they're on your team is a lot

6:13

easier to get to. Then

6:15

the amount of people who are leaving your

6:17

party. So it's they don't care about

6:20

being true to anybody in their

6:22

party at all, because more people are coming

6:24

in, especially on a Democrat party,

6:26

cause it's easier to make them

6:29

than it is to make conservative people. Um,

6:32

but yeah, there's just like droves and droves of people

6:35

to come in. So like anybody who has an argument

6:37

or anything, that's a problem with the.

6:40

The left or the right. They have like ways

6:42

to just squash out those particular

6:46

pieces. And that's just sort of where the

6:48

libertarian slash Progressive

6:52

people are. And that's like where I,

6:54

that's where I was before. Like I grew up

6:57

traditional Democrat and then I got so pissed

6:59

off at them, not doing anything

7:02

that I just became progressive. And

7:04

then I realized that there's kind of like two sides

7:06

of the same coin. I went through sort

7:08

of the same awakening that a Jimmy door

7:11

is going through now. So

7:13

it's it's kind of funny that like people

7:16

who are mad at the government, the establishment

7:18

versus non establishment are. are

7:22

a lot closer than what the

7:26

middle people in the middle tend to be are.

7:28

It's, and this is, so I I've been I'd

7:30

say. Libertarian minded

7:33

pretty much since high school. And,

7:36

cause that's when I first started reading

7:38

Anne Rand books, was in high school and realized

7:40

that, holy shit, this, this totally aligns

7:42

with what I believe. And this, this is where

7:44

I think the libertarian quadrants,

7:47

I'm sure you've seen the diamond before, that

7:49

kind of, you answer a bunch of questions, kind of tells

7:52

you where you fit on the diamond. Is a lot

7:54

more accurate than the left right, which is

7:56

typically what's used in the media

7:58

is like everything either belongs

8:00

on the left side where you got the progressives,

8:02

the liberals, democrats, socialists.

8:05

Or the right where you have Nazis. And

8:08

that's kind of the, it's all they

8:10

do is they just separate into

8:12

those two groups. And depending on

8:14

how you talk to, obviously they're

8:16

going to make one side sound worse

8:18

or better, but with the libertarian diamond,

8:22

um, when you answer those questions,

8:24

you can see that. You can have

8:26

an authoritarian right wing person

8:29

and you can have an authoritarian left

8:31

wing person. You can have

8:33

a libertarian, very open minded

8:36

right wing person. You can have a libertarian, very open

8:38

minded left wing person. So adding

8:40

that extra dimension really

8:42

tells you a lot more about the person

8:45

taking the test or the candidate that you're looking

8:47

at. Because there's, you

8:49

know, you can have arguments about what's better

8:52

left or right. But I think

8:54

when it comes to authoritarianism, it's

8:56

pretty hard to make the case that that's somehow

8:58

better.

9:00

I know. I agree. And I think that like

9:02

conflating, it's really easy

9:04

to conflate those things because

9:07

it's harder to get people to think in fours

9:10

than it is to get them to think in twos.

9:12

And it's just um, and you can see

9:15

it in the left. Rhetoric

9:17

so far. It's like good versus

9:19

evil. I think the right does this a little

9:21

bit too, but I think to a different

9:23

degree But the left is

9:25

more like good versus evil

9:27

This guy is like literally the devil

9:30

or voldemort or whatever. They're

9:32

far better at messaging to their people

9:35

Mm hmm.

9:36

um who is good versus who is bad

9:38

and putting up figure heads in

9:40

order to try to Either

9:43

put up a dichotomy between the two or

9:46

conflate the two, you know, so I think that it's

9:48

the from from the left's perspective.

9:51

They are, they're far better at galvanizing

9:54

their people and giving

9:56

them something to

9:59

fight against.

10:01

Well, and, and to be fair, it's easier

10:03

for them to do that because their people

10:06

tend to not be as intellectually

10:09

developed. I'm not gonna say they're stupid

10:12

there. They could very well potentially

10:14

become intelligent, but

10:16

there's certainly people that haven't spent a great deal

10:18

of time investigating reality

10:21

and are just willing to repeat

10:23

what's on CNN.

10:25

Right. Yeah, they're perfectly willing, as

10:28

you said, to just allow people to think

10:30

for them. I, I

10:32

know quite a few people who their

10:35

Facebook posts will say, um,

10:38

Oh, I, I, I can't wait to see

10:41

what the news says about this. I

10:43

don't want to think, you know, like

10:45

it's, it's so weird to me as a person

10:47

who constantly thinks about every

10:49

little thing that like, um,

10:52

people could just allow

10:54

that to happen. But like Kierkegaard said,

10:57

like anxiety is the

10:59

dizziness of freedom. I think that was Kierkegaard,

11:01

but yeah, the anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.

11:04

So these people just don't want

11:06

to think because it actually, it

11:09

almost paralyzes them. That, that freedom,

11:11

the amount of choices paralyzes

11:13

them into a stillness that they can't

11:16

comprehend. And I think that that's

11:18

where the anxiety comes from. And

11:21

people are softer in nature now

11:23

in terms of being American. So

11:25

it just, um, freedom

11:28

they, they much prefer living in a

11:30

Kafkaesque scenario, I think.

11:32

Yeah. Please, please decide

11:34

everything for me. And that

11:36

I think is, as a libertarian,

11:38

I think it's something that we have to, to solve.

11:41

Right now, we basically just have to hope

11:43

that we can push the Overton

11:45

window from conservatives where

11:47

we want them to be, um,

11:50

sort of fighting from within. And

11:52

I think that that's where we'll have the most power

11:54

as of right now, but we'll, we'll see

11:57

what happens.

11:58

Yeah. I mean, right now I'd say

12:01

the change that we're seeing

12:03

happening. In more people getting

12:05

red pilled, more people realizing just how

12:07

crazy and nutty some of the

12:09

ideas of, in fact, most of the ideas

12:11

of the left actually are, I

12:13

attribute that a lot less to

12:16

the conservatives actually succeeding

12:18

and a lot more to the liberals

12:20

going so far overboard that

12:23

they're leaving more and more people behind

12:26

that are going, wait a minute. I

12:29

thought, I thought we were against this. Now we're

12:31

for this. We're the war party. Mm

12:33

hmm.

12:34

yeah, I, I totally agree with

12:36

you. Even my journey to,

12:38

from all the way to the left,

12:41

to where I am now, more

12:43

libertarian leaning, going

12:45

all the way right. And then coming back to

12:47

where I am now, it's It

12:49

had mostly to do with my business

12:52

aspect and what I was learning about

12:54

business. It had almost nothing to do with conservatives

12:57

convincing me that their ideology

13:00

was better. You know, it just was convenient

13:02

because all the people who I looked

13:04

up to happened to be, you

13:07

know, conservative minded. So it's just

13:09

and they were conservative with their wallets as well.

13:12

So it just like sort of happened by.

13:15

Osmosis, but it's not

13:17

like they, they didn't, they never reached

13:19

across and got me. And

13:22

I think that that's a big messaging problem because

13:24

they definitely reach across and get

13:26

to the youth for sure.

13:29

Mm hmm.

13:29

I know so many conservative, older

13:32

conservative people who raised

13:34

liberal children. So it's you're,

13:36

you're not even like putting,

13:38

pushing together your own ideology

13:41

for Towards a better,

13:43

you know, it's, it's tough.

13:45

Well, as much as a lot of people

13:48

on the right, love to rag

13:50

on Ben Shapiro because,

13:53

you know, he's um, he's

13:55

a war hawk and he's too much

13:58

pro Israel. And that idea, you know,

14:00

ideas don't care about your feelings unless it

14:02

has to do with Israel. There, there's a lot of negative

14:05

stuff floating around them, but I will say this. Or

14:07

the years that the guy was doing his college campus

14:09

tours. He did more to

14:12

open up the eyes of students than

14:14

just about anybody who's actually

14:16

making money from conservatism because

14:19

he was challenging the ideas

14:21

that the students were taught. And

14:23

even if one out of a hundred of the people

14:25

that saw him started thinking

14:28

a little more is well, wait a minute. Yeah, I thought

14:30

that I thought the Democrats were

14:32

against war. How come we're the party of war now?

14:35

Even if one of those started thinking about it,

14:37

well, that's one more person than would have otherwise

14:40

because most of the conservative messaging.

14:42

They don't even bother addressing the youth. They're

14:44

just giving up on, on young people and just said,

14:47

yeah, well, they're all liberals. What do we do? Nothing.

14:50

No, I, I totally agree. And that's,

14:52

that's where I focus all of my money. I don't

14:54

even watch Ben Shapiro show, but

14:57

I do have a subscription at daily wire,

14:59

even though I don't use it. Um,

15:02

like it. People who, like Scott

15:04

Pressler, I give money to Scott Pressler,

15:06

I give money to, um, Turning

15:09

Point USA because they are out

15:11

there trying to reach the youth and I

15:13

can see the ripple effects

15:16

happening in, in rap music,

15:18

I can see the ripple effects happening in small

15:21

black communities across America.

15:23

I

15:24

By the way, Ben Shapiro, number one rap

15:26

artist in the country.

15:27

that's what I'm saying. That's

15:29

what I'm saying. You know,

15:31

the song, honestly, in

15:34

my heart of hearts, I can't say that it's a good

15:36

rap song.

15:36

It's crap, man. I bought three copies

15:39

of it just Just to support him, but

15:41

it's total crap.

15:42

My man. I

15:45

know. That's awesome. Yeah,

15:47

I do the same thing, and I heard that you

15:49

also support, um, Tim

15:52

cast all their songs as well. I

15:54

do the same thing. I don't listen to that kind of music

15:57

at all. I've never listened to any of the songs,

15:59

but I buy them because it supports the

16:01

cause of what I want to

16:03

build. Like I have to you

16:06

have to build a parallel economy because if

16:08

you don't They're, they already

16:10

have an economy and a machine behind

16:12

them that keeps pushing out money.

16:15

And that's why, like, why, why is there

16:17

so much money getting people to buy

16:19

off like these influencers

16:21

and buy off politicians and stuff? How

16:24

did, how did they get all that money? Oh, well, they got

16:26

it from having machines on the back

16:28

end that's just pouring in cash to

16:31

the DNC. I mean, it's just, it's

16:33

unreal. But yeah, it's That

16:35

the RNC is not fighting for

16:38

that at all.

16:39

got somebody running

16:41

the RNC right now. Rona, I forget

16:43

her last

16:44

Oh,

16:45

It's

16:46

McDaniels or whatever.

16:47

you couldn't, you couldn't ask for

16:50

someone who has been better to the Democrats

16:53

than her for the last four years. She's

16:55

just completely made every

16:57

decision against actually

17:00

what conservatives want.

17:02

She, she might go down as

17:04

next to Nancy Pelosi as the

17:06

best Democrat ever in

17:08

the history. I mean, no one. Further

17:11

the democratic message than than

17:14

her like better than she did like

17:16

she had no fight against any

17:19

of the nonsense there. They're

17:21

cutting children's genitals off. We

17:24

can't fight against that. Are you kidding me? You

17:27

can't mount a defense against that.

17:29

Yeah. There used to be a big outcry.

17:32

I remember, you know, even just like 10

17:34

years ago against

17:36

the practice of girls getting circumcised,

17:38

you know, their clits getting cut off. In

17:40

Muslim and African countries because it's tradition,

17:43

right? It's, it's historically what

17:45

was done. They're still practicing it. A lot of people.

17:47

And then the Americans were all outraged.

17:50

And it's again, the same liberals were

17:52

outraged about it. Soon as it starts

17:54

happening here. Oh, no, no, no. You got to. The

17:56

choice of the child, regardless of what

17:58

anybody else says. So if the child

18:00

wants to mutilate themselves, have

18:02

their genitalia chopped off, well,

18:04

you got to respect that because you know, the child knows

18:07

what's best for them. They don't know what cereal to

18:09

eat in the morning, but they know what's best for their sex

18:11

and their future.

18:12

yeah, that's a, that's a great point. That's

18:15

wow. Very powerful,

18:18

It it's crazy. It, and then the

18:20

fact that people are willing to accept it again, it's

18:22

almost like we're watching 1984

18:25

being performed in real time, because,

18:28

you know, that was the. What

18:30

the expectation of the party was

18:32

in that book that when

18:34

facts about the past change,

18:37

people just adapt to it and pretend

18:39

that that's the way it's always been. And

18:42

that seems to be what the the left side

18:44

has been doing is a hell, even the right

18:46

side, they're going along with it. Is there

18:48

just pretending that

18:50

things that are right now,

18:53

norm have always been, it's no.

18:55

No, that's definitely not the case.

18:58

And I remember always when I heard this,

19:00

this kind of argument

19:02

that, well, you know, Democrats always

19:04

supported the minorities. So it

19:06

was really the Republicans that

19:08

were in the South and really the Democrats

19:11

were the party of Lincoln. And then the parties just kind

19:13

of changed names. And I just thought, what

19:15

a bunch of bullshit. Now I'm starting

19:17

to think, well, if the Democrats

19:19

are the pro war pro large

19:21

corporation party. Well,

19:24

shit, it's

19:26

happened right here in the last five years. Maybe

19:28

it's happened before as well, where the name

19:31

stayed,

19:33

Right.

19:34

actual practices completely flip flopped

19:36

around. And I'm not, you know, justifying

19:39

saying, well, it wasn't the Republicans that the

19:41

Lincoln was part of, but you

19:43

do kind of wonder, it's like, how often

19:46

can people just stick to a name

19:49

Republican or Democrat without really

19:51

giving a shit. About what the tenants

19:53

of that name today are, because

19:56

they're very different than what they were. You

19:58

look at the Republican side, similar thing. Right

20:01

now, you know, I, having

20:04

marriage for gay people is

20:07

part of the standard sort of accepted Republican

20:11

party platforms there. I don't think there's

20:13

any States right now where the Republican

20:15

platform includes that marriage

20:18

is only between a man and a woman, maybe

20:20

Utah, that might be the only state, but

20:23

you look back 10 years ago and that was a major

20:26

change that happened now. I

20:29

have never cared because I've always been libertarian.

20:31

I'm like, frankly, government

20:33

ought to stay out of marriage. It's none of the government's business,

20:35

whether you're married or not, or how many wives or

20:37

husbands you have.

20:39

Yes, sir.

20:41

But it's, it's like change

20:44

is happening. But yet people

20:46

keep sticking to the old familiar

20:48

label. Is it a D

20:50

or is it an R?

20:53

So I, have you ever read the book tribe?

20:56

No, I

20:57

Okay. So there's a book, it's called tribe

21:00

and it basically talks about how.

21:03

Human beings, they, they

21:06

basically need to be in a tight

21:08

knit, small group. When they get

21:10

into larger groups, that's when chaos

21:13

starts unfurl. But the, the problem

21:16

that we have now is that if, if

21:18

people step outside of the

21:20

norm, they get beat. Almost

21:23

to hell. So and they know that so

21:25

they would rather feel like they're a part

21:27

of the inside, even if

21:29

they have to deal with or listen to

21:31

or agree with nonsense, as

21:34

opposed to being othered.

21:36

And that's what really people human beings have a

21:38

longing for togetherness.

21:41

And that's like really tough to, um,

21:44

To break through, especially on

21:46

the Democrat side, conservatives,

21:49

they will spite each other for

21:51

anger. I mean, they'll spite each other

21:53

for pride, but more often

21:56

than not, they'll just simply spite

21:58

a person if they don't believe in them, if they

22:00

just like. Like I've seen so many

22:02

times like I've looked at,

22:04

I try to look at everybody's individual

22:07

argument on their merits, despite

22:09

the fact that I have my own opinion. Um,

22:13

so like when I looked at all the people who went against

22:16

Jim Jordan, it was mostly because

22:18

Jim Jordan's for speaker, it was mostly

22:21

because they just didn't like

22:23

that he was being put up.

22:26

It, they, it could have been anybody

22:29

that they put up in that thing, but like they

22:31

wanted to spike Matt gates

22:33

so much that they didn't,

22:35

it didn't matter to them who. Who

22:38

they put up, they didn't actually have a person

22:40

to put up. So it just who

22:42

knows at that point, they just were so piss

22:45

finnick or angry. And you

22:47

don't see Democrats doing that, at

22:49

least from the outside. They'll have

22:52

those arguments inward, but

22:54

then once the clear winner wins,

22:57

it's everybody falls in

22:58

I think they tend to do more deals because

23:01

you remember back when AOC

23:04

was going to not support Nancy Pelosi

23:07

and then a week goes by, they have some closed

23:10

door meetings. Next thing you know, AOC is endorsing

23:12

Pelosi for speaker.

23:14

Yeah, that made that

23:17

made what is his name? Jim,

23:20

what the heck is that guy? Somebody

23:22

freak out. But, um,

23:24

Jimmy door that's

23:26

Dore. Yeah.

23:27

Yeah. Yeah. That started to crack him

23:29

and take him more conservative because

23:32

he got so tired of progressives

23:35

just getting the, the washed

23:37

in, you know, it's really bad that they will

23:39

just continue to sell out for

23:42

partisan reasons. And

23:44

even if you have a young and

23:45

Cause he was a Bernie bro. Right.

23:47

Yes, he was.

23:49

Mm hmm.

23:49

I, I will admit I was a Bernie

23:51

bro 2016 as well. And

23:54

when he, my first

23:56

crack was when he sold

23:58

out despite being cheated. Like

24:00

he was obviously cheated. Hillary

24:03

Clinton got to choose her own electorates.

24:06

Are you kidding me? And then that's when I was like, Oh

24:08

man, the democratic process, this

24:10

is undemocratic as hell. I

24:12

can't support this at all. And

24:15

so like when he sold

24:16

cheated. I just think they bought him out.

24:19

So they could have bought him out. I hear

24:21

he got paid for it.

24:22

he bought, he bought a bunch of mansions

24:24

and a couple of other things, I do think that

24:26

some money was definitely exchanged

24:29

for that, but the fact

24:31

that Hillary Clinton got to handpick

24:33

her delegates who then handpicked

24:36

her, and that's how the process always

24:38

worked and Debbie Washerman

24:40

Schultz got to basically

24:43

run the DNC as

24:45

Hillary Clinton's best friend. Are you kidding

24:47

me?

24:47

Exactly. As somebody who worked

24:49

for her campaign, now she's going to run the DNC.

24:52

Yeah.

24:52

oh yeah, so like when when that all

24:55

fell through, I was like,

24:57

there's no way I could support this

24:59

And, and I will say that Hillary is

25:02

definitely not progressive. If you actually look

25:04

at her politics

25:06

over the years, she

25:09

was Very much

25:11

like a, she's

25:13

she was always a war hawk Democrat,

25:15

you know, she was always an

25:18

opposition to a lot of these

25:20

peace and flower kind of liberals language.

25:24

Um, I think predominantly, this is

25:26

my, my personal pet theory is I think

25:28

the only reason that Hillary had

25:31

become a Democrat and decided

25:33

that bill would be a good. Husband

25:37

to raise her political stakes with way

25:39

back when was because

25:41

she got, um, snubbed

25:45

or something happened when she was volunteering

25:48

for the Nixon campaign, because, you know, she was a Republican

25:50

when she was

25:51

Right,

25:52

And I think there must've been something

25:54

happened that just emotionally

25:57

made her say, well, fuck all of

25:59

y'all, I'm going to make sure

26:02

you never get elected. And then

26:04

that was a pivot in her youth. Which

26:06

made her go the other direction because if you actually

26:09

look at Things she supported with

26:11

the exception of, you know, gun control and

26:13

the things that are just more sort of women

26:16

related than they are conservative or

26:19

liberal. A lot of her stances

26:21

go in opposition to the traditional democratic

26:23

stances and

26:26

agree. I'm looking up this now,

26:28

but um, I'm pretty sure

26:31

her, I'm not sure if this

26:33

has been cleared or not, but I

26:35

think that her firm or something was,

26:39

Connected to Watergate, so,

26:42

um, I think that that's where her original

26:45

burn with the Democratic

26:48

Party was and then she just sort of unfurl

26:50

from there. But I, I absolutely agree

26:52

with you. Like, when she and I, I

26:54

was actually talking about this with my wife. Like

26:57

a week ago when Hillary Clinton ran,

26:59

she basically ran a Southern

27:01

strategy. Like she didn't run like

27:04

a Democrat at all. She skipped all

27:06

of the Northern states. Cause she thought that she basically

27:08

had them locked up and then she

27:10

ran the Southern belt, like she was

27:12

a Reagan. Republican.

27:15

accent changed.

27:16

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It

27:19

was it was really interesting to watch.

27:21

It was, um, but I, I think that

27:23

because people want to be so ideologically

27:27

with their group and

27:29

they forget the long term

27:31

strategies. I know this because

27:33

like my mom's a long term Democrat

27:36

and I'm constantly sharing things with

27:38

her. Six months ago she was

27:40

telling me that she was really

27:42

scared and she's glad that Biden

27:45

was in office because if Trump

27:48

was in office. There would be

27:50

World War III. And I said,

27:52

Okay. So you thought that the person

27:55

who started no new wars and

27:57

ended three or four of them was

27:59

going to start World War III. Okay,

28:01

Mom. Gotcha. And then, so

28:04

Biden starts this new

28:06

conflict. And so I said, Hey, the world's

28:08

getting pretty interesting. So, What

28:10

did you think about what you said then? And she said, I said

28:12

nothing like that. I said, Well,

28:14

okay. It's just Deny

28:17

and deflect and that's just sort

28:19

of the motto and, and memento

28:21

of their, their group because there's

28:24

no shame in,

28:26

in their ideology anymore. There's no,

28:29

they have a group identity. Like the

28:31

core identity of the person

28:34

is really Tied to the

28:36

group. This is why I think the

28:39

if you look at the whole LGBT alphabet

28:41

soup. You

28:44

know, I, I remember when I was going to college,

28:46

that was really kind of my first, um,

28:49

experience of seeing

28:51

organized homosexual

28:54

groups. Right. So, I mean, I think I, I

28:56

had a couple of friends that clearly

28:58

were a little effeminate, but you never know when

29:01

you were in school, when you're a kid that like, are they

29:03

just effeminate or are they actually gay? And

29:06

as it turned out, one of my good friends

29:08

that we all kind of. I thought it was a little

29:10

too feminine in high school, in college

29:12

came out as being gay, but

29:15

you know, when you're in college, like that's,

29:17

there's always these groups. It's a lot more

29:19

out in the open. And I remember

29:22

back then it was literally just three letters

29:24

and they were in a different order. I don't

29:26

know how the hell the lesbians got to the front

29:28

because back in the early nineties,

29:31

it was GLB. That

29:33

was the campus group, which was

29:36

gays, lesbians, and bisexuals.

29:38

That was it.

29:40

Yeah

29:41

and then somehow from

29:43

the nineties to the two thousands,

29:46

the, the lesbians pushed

29:48

over the the gays to the front of the line

29:51

because they're pushy. And

29:54

and then started adding all these other letters

29:56

afterwards. And, and I think it all goes

29:58

back to this idea that they

30:00

feel a lot safer in groups because

30:02

they have a group identity. The

30:04

individual identity doesn't matter.

30:07

I totally agree. I have a very

30:09

unscientific, that's really interesting,

30:11

I have a very unscientific view, and

30:14

let me just know what you think about this, the

30:16

letters, the letter switching. Lesbians

30:19

are mostly comprised of white women.

30:22

Oh, yeah.

30:24

You know how they are.

30:25

Mm hmm.

30:26

I mean, geez of course, lesbians

30:29

had to be put first, because they're

30:31

mostly comprised of white women who

30:33

have no struggle in the world,

30:36

other than the ones

30:38

that they create. So of course they had

30:40

to go first. So yeah, that's my

30:42

theory. That's why that's the theory.

30:44

They're they're the The

30:46

level of, well, and I would

30:48

say not so much white women as

30:50

American white women, because

30:53

you go to, you go to Europe and

30:55

you have a very feminine type

30:57

of white woman there, you know, the

30:59

American women are, I

31:02

don't know what it is, if it's just a cultural thing

31:05

or the previous generation, the way

31:07

they were being brought up or whatever, or

31:09

frankly, I blame Disney for a lot of it

31:11

with coming out with two goddamn movies

31:13

that have them being rescued by

31:15

a Prince. It's no bitch. There

31:17

ain't no Prince is going to rescue your ass. Cause

31:19

it's, you're not worth it.

31:21

Right. So the value set.

31:23

Yeah. Yeah. And so all

31:25

this entitlement mentality. I don't know. I

31:27

don't know if you ever watched the show. I, I rarely

31:29

do, but occasionally I'll catch a clip from

31:32

this show. The, um, I'm trying

31:34

to think of what they're called, but it's basically this one guy

31:36

hosts a show where he brings in. A bunch

31:38

of girls who all think they're 10s.

31:41

The whatever podcast.

31:42

yeah, whatever, exactly. And

31:44

it's you don't need to watch a whole episode

31:47

cause the clips is all you need to watch of that

31:49

show. But it is just truly

31:51

amazing how so

31:53

many women. That objectively

31:56

are like threes, fours, and fives

31:59

all think they're tens.

32:02

Yeah. So I, I think that they

32:04

are, we, as

32:07

a culture, and I see this on

32:09

the playgrounds and I, I taught tennis

32:11

for a decade

32:13

and a half. So I've, I've taught the,

32:16

Tennis, how dare you go against stereotypes?

32:20

I know I've, I've, I've been a

32:22

contrarian my entire

32:24

Huh.

32:25

so, um,

32:27

Well, you didn't vote for Joe Biden, so you're not black.

32:29

We know that.

32:30

Yeah, my skin color changed

32:32

for a very strange reason, you

32:34

Uh huh.

32:34

um, I tan really quickly.

32:37

So he was always going to lose that

32:39

battle. Um,

32:41

so I, I've taught all types

32:44

of all types of kids and I, I raised

32:46

my kids to be like, Very,

32:48

very tough because I saw

32:51

all of the kids who are very, very weak,

32:53

who are raised by parents who are constantly

32:57

explaining things to them, asking

32:59

them questions and treating them

33:01

like they're a prince or princess

33:03

and all this other stuff. And so, I saw

33:06

like immediately giving

33:08

kids like, like the.

33:11

Basically, the reigns of the house

33:14

and the reigns of what's going on in the family.

33:17

It was a disaster because as soon

33:19

as they got to my court, they all

33:21

thought that they could all do the same thing.

33:23

And there are kids who are

33:25

not like, I grew up in the inner city

33:27

in a very, very violent area. So

33:29

we all knew from a pecking order by just

33:32

looking at each other, Oh. We could

33:34

beat that person up or I should sit down

33:36

because I'm not going to say anything. Cause I'm

33:38

going to get my ass whooped. So

33:40

like these kids don't get that. They're just like,

33:43

I'm

33:43

then you get your ass whooped one more time when

33:45

you get home for being in a fight.

33:48

Oh, 100%. Yeah. If I, if I'm in the

33:50

fight, my mom's whooping my ass on the way home

33:52

to get your cat. You're 100 percent right.

33:54

You're catching two L's. You're catching

33:56

two L's for sure. So you

33:58

were, you're very tactful with how, who

34:01

you

34:01

Mm hmm.

34:02

but these kids these days, like they'll, they'll go

34:05

out and fight anybody, you know, get into

34:07

brawls or arguments and stuff on,

34:09

on my court or, or anything disrupting

34:12

anybody's physical sports

34:14

or whatever. Because they just

34:16

all believe that they're the most

34:18

important thing. I had a girl trying,

34:20

trying to, she took private lessons with me,

34:22

80 an hour. And she's trying

34:25

to morph me into

34:27

telling her that she's doing

34:29

a good job. Not oh,

34:31

you did better than you did before. No,

34:34

she wanted me to tell her that her job

34:36

was good enough to go out and beat somebody

34:39

else. And I'm like, honey. I

34:41

can't tell you that. I guess it's like

34:43

you need to get away from me. So

34:46

I would just kick those kids off my court. But

34:48

yeah, everybody has this

34:50

self entitlement. And I think

34:52

Oh, it's crazy.

34:53

Jordan Peterson says that it's because

34:56

people are having less kids. So

34:59

they're taking fewer risks with

35:01

them. And so every

35:03

kid is the prince,

35:05

like we're saying, you know, so it's um,

35:08

it's a real, it's a

35:10

real nightmare. It's a real, real

35:12

nightmare. My kids are

35:14

special, like my three year old can multiply, and so

35:16

can my two year old, they can multiply, divide. But

35:18

I'm a stay at home dad, basically,

35:20

and so is my wife. So It's,

35:23

it's different, but we also are

35:25

constantly pushing our kids

35:27

to do those things that are

35:29

different and we never, ever, ever

35:32

tell them or treat them as if they are.

35:34

We just simply reward them

35:36

for their good behavior, you know, it's not

35:38

oh my gosh, my kids don't even, I

35:40

don't even, I keep Prince and princess

35:43

fantasy stuff away from them. They don't

35:45

watch disney or anything like that

35:47

it's not good for a man Let's say creates

35:49

the wrong impression of reality

35:52

oh, it's so crazy. Yeah

35:54

When they're able to understand that

35:56

this is a fantasy world that

35:58

nobody else has to live. I

36:01

know so many of So many people

36:03

who like push

36:06

the Prince princess thing on their

36:08

kids. And it's I'm watching the

36:10

kid awkwardly look at me

36:12

while they're taking photos and 20

36:14

people are around them and

36:17

they're like. doting over this kid

36:19

and the kid's just looking at me like so awkward

36:21

from across the room and I'm just like What

36:23

the heck is going on here? It's like you're

36:26

you're you're creating monsters Oh,

36:30

the problem has been going on for so long that

36:32

we have adults that act and think

36:34

the same way And like it

36:36

to me, it's just disturbing hearing

36:38

grown adults Refer

36:41

to you know each other as king

36:43

and queen. I'm like you fucking

36:45

nuts. Neither one of you are anything close

36:47

to that A couple of losers.

36:49

I agree. Yeah, like from

36:52

from a worldly and lively perspective

36:54

Yeah, you live a better life than kings

36:57

and queens live at some point in

36:59

the world, you know but because of

37:01

technology but to say that

37:03

That's just to say that you're allowed

37:05

to have as much fun as a king and

37:07

queen. And that's only looking

37:09

at the fun. That's not to say that

37:12

you had to take care of a kingdom

37:14

or a fiefdom. That's not to say

37:16

that you had to make sure that people

37:18

ate in the wintertime. How many

37:20

people

37:21

people are trying to assassinate you?

37:23

right? Right, right, right. Protecting, even

37:26

kings and queens lived with that.

37:28

just stealing, stealing your stuff. Stealing

37:30

if I wanted to take your, take over

37:32

your kingdom, I'm going to go light some

37:35

of your stuff on fire. I'm going to go take

37:37

and steal from your smaller end people so

37:39

that they die in the wintertime. And over

37:41

time, I'm just going to slowly take over your kingdom.

37:43

Thanks for you building that, but I'm just going to

37:45

take that over. And so, I just think

37:48

that, People don't look at it like

37:50

okay, this person had an enormous amount of responsibility

37:54

and that's their thing. Like I hear so many

37:56

people say, um, they

37:58

are king and they are queen. And

38:00

then I look at their kids

38:02

and I'm like, okay, well your kid's wearing really nice

38:05

clothes. Let me go ask

38:07

your kid a question. What's the, what's

38:09

this color? And they can't tell me anything.

38:12

Count to ten, they can't say anything.

38:15

And I'm like, okay, wow. So,

38:18

Did you see that video? It's probably

38:20

a couple of months back of a 16 year

38:23

old girl who

38:26

just got a brand new Tesla

38:30

and she is yelling at her mom.

38:32

For not giving her a Mercedes.

38:35

yes,

38:36

Do you remember that video? I mean, that's the

38:38

epitome of where we are in America

38:40

right now. It's, it's a fucking

38:42

16 year old who got a car

38:44

that they didn't deserve. Brand

38:46

new car. That's the, I mean, cheapest Tesla,

38:49

no matter how you slice it, it's still like 40 grand.

38:52

And and she's bitching about the

38:54

fact that her mom didn't buy her brand

38:56

new Mercedes,

38:58

Yeah, I, the

39:02

kids don't stand a chance.

39:05

not compared to the rest of the world. And that's

39:07

yeah

39:08

I

39:09

from a,

39:10

you know, we we're, we're watching

39:12

a major change happening. In

39:15

the United States and

39:18

not for the better. And

39:21

I think what, what a lot of people don't

39:23

realize they can't envision the possibility

39:27

is that this is not

39:29

a temporary condition. The,

39:31

the growth. That we're seeing

39:34

of bricks and the

39:36

change off of the U. S. Dollar

39:38

as the standard currency

39:40

of trades is only

39:43

going to keep moving

39:45

in that direction. And the the

39:47

main way that the American

39:50

quality of life has been propped up for the

39:52

last 50 years has

39:54

been as a result of the post World War

39:56

Two actions. Of creating

39:59

a global reserve currency in

40:01

us dollars as that liquidates

40:03

and disappears as other

40:06

countries no longer buy American

40:09

bonds to hold than

40:13

so those are quality of life. And I think

40:15

future generations are going to start realizing

40:18

that the norm isn't living better than

40:20

your parents. The norm is actually

40:22

living worse than your parents. Mm hmm.

40:24

Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna say. This is

40:27

the first generation that,

40:29

Is doing worse than their

40:31

parents did.

40:32

Mm

40:33

So like they, like we're the first

40:35

ones who had to go back and

40:37

live with our parents and.

40:40

Just to get a reset. So like

40:42

that, and I completely agree with you

40:44

that BRICS is a really, really

40:47

big problem for us. I mean, several

40:50

countries and OPEC have divested

40:52

from U. S. dollars, U.

40:54

S. assets. China is divesting

40:57

from U. S. assets. They're

40:59

closing

40:59

Yeah, China used to be the second biggest holder

41:01

of U. S. assets. It's now the 13th.

41:04

Yep. Yeah, there are a lot of companies

41:06

and countries are divesting. Yeah, I have to look at

41:08

all of this stuff because I trade. So

41:11

Mm hmm.

41:12

constantly looking at the market from a completely

41:14

different perspective. I constantly

41:16

talk about this all the time with people. I

41:18

say, if people

41:21

understood money. Then

41:24

Democrats would literally have to shoot

41:26

their way. They would have to start kidnapping kids,

41:29

people's kids in order to get in the office.

41:31

There's we would have definitely more conservative

41:34

people that we have now, but

41:36

I can't say that the people who we have now

41:38

would survive, but on a conservative

41:41

side, but most certainly Democrats would

41:43

all be fired almost overnight.

41:46

Like they are there. The

41:48

average person. Could the

41:51

barrier between the average person and

41:54

the stock market gains is

41:57

literally the government keeping them down.

41:59

It's like all regulations. It's

42:01

it's really bad. They don't

42:03

allow free market capitalism. So they

42:05

don't even allow people to choose

42:08

how good companies treat them. So

42:10

it's I mean, companies could

42:12

be like, there were a bunch of different, um,

42:15

Advancements in drive

42:17

through technology and so

42:20

on and so forth with COVID would

42:23

have probably already happened if there

42:25

weren't caps on the market and

42:27

barriers for entry for other people to

42:29

enter into the market. Like

42:31

if, if there was more competition, there would be a

42:33

lot

42:34

the first thing that happens when somebody

42:37

is allowed to control the

42:39

not, not just the market, but can control

42:41

a segment themselves is they form

42:44

organizations whose

42:46

main purpose, regardless of what the claim

42:48

is, It's to limit competition

42:51

and limit entry into that market segment. It's

42:53

true of doctors. It's true of lawyers. It's

42:55

true of an awful lot

42:57

of different you know, companies

43:00

that, that have trade

43:02

associations that sound

43:05

like they're there to just kind of promote

43:07

the types of products, but in reality. They're

43:09

there to limit competition by getting

43:12

getting more laws on

43:14

the books from the government

43:17

that helps the companies that already

43:19

are at the top, stay at the top.

43:21

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think that like

43:23

in, in my honestly God,

43:26

in my dream world, because I understand.

43:29

Market forces and I understand supply

43:31

and demand. I do think that there should

43:33

be a gatekeeper on doctors. There

43:36

should be a gatekeeper on certain professions

43:38

because then it would get sort of wonky

43:40

and out of whack. I don't want to have

43:42

too many doctors because then it sort

43:45

of perverts the profession. But,

43:47

um, I also don't,

43:50

But what is

43:51

don't think that

43:51

No, not, not, not, so this, this actually brings

43:53

up a good point. Cause I have a pet peeve with

43:56

doctors. Um, because

43:58

I think we're going to see

44:00

certainly moving forward that

44:03

doctors are basically

44:06

auto mechanics. For

44:08

the human body and they work

44:10

in exactly the same way. They look at references

44:13

from books. They, they read on studies

44:15

that, that were being performed by the

44:18

universities out there and medical centers.

44:21

And then their job is just

44:23

to be that gatekeeper that kind of gets

44:26

the latest info and then decides

44:28

if they want to provide it to people

44:31

that are coming to them, that entire

44:33

job can be replaced by AI. Literally

44:36

in a matter of years, it's, it's basically

44:39

already there, except that the AI access

44:41

is limited to the medical profession,

44:44

so they can go ahead and utilize

44:46

that AI for creating diagnoses,

44:49

but. I think it's within the matter

44:51

of a year or two, we're going to see a

44:53

huge decline in the number of

44:55

jobs available to doctors because

44:58

you are really don't need them because the AI

45:00

is going to be doing literally what they've been doing for a long

45:02

time which is

45:06

looking at the body of available knowledge

45:08

for treatments for various conditions.

45:10

And then looking at the conditions the person

45:12

has, and then just doing a match. Well,

45:14

let's try that. See if that works. Cause you know, none

45:17

of them work under a guarantee. They

45:19

all work on the, let's try this principle.

45:22

I totally agree with you, but that's scary

45:24

as hell to me because and I'm a

45:26

swing trader So this is how I think a

45:28

little bit so like we do actually

45:30

have the technology for that now I

45:32

mean we could be sending in blood samples

45:34

every month to some entity

45:37

or whatever that somebody trusts but like

45:39

then it's You

45:42

get information back that's actually

45:44

accurate that you need, and probably

45:46

is better for your health, and will give you a better

45:49

directive and guide, but like, how,

45:51

how is that different than Big Brother? How

45:53

is that different than like the Skynet

45:55

you that people

45:57

with money are doing that right now.

46:01

Um,

46:01

with you?

46:02

it's not, it's just not something

46:05

that's available to most people. Like I did

46:07

a, a full body. Evaluation

46:10

about 18 months ago. So it consisted

46:12

of a full body cat scan and

46:14

MRI a, um, um,

46:19

uh, what do you call it, the sound thingy.

46:21

What's that? Yeah.

46:23

Ultrasound of, of like my heart's

46:26

in motion video of that. It's all stuff

46:28

that's cool to watch. And then

46:30

a test, the screen for 137 different

46:32

types of cancers. DNA analysis did,

46:35

did all that shit costs about six and a half thousand

46:37

dollars. Obviously not covered by insurance.

46:40

Um, and then a lot of people will

46:42

do that once a year and

46:45

that provides a

46:48

snapshot proactively.

46:50

Like what you, you may find literally

46:53

nothing wrong. You still paid the money, right?

46:56

When you do find something that

46:59

isn't causing you any physical problems,

47:02

but you find it proactively

47:04

and you realize if I don't treat this, I am

47:06

going to have physical problems, then

47:08

all of a sudden that, that cost of the yearly

47:12

Seems very cheap. If

47:14

you've got to get surgery, it's going to be 50 to 150,

47:17

200, 000. Um,

47:20

and if you get surgery proactively,

47:23

it may only cost 30,

47:26

So I, I, again,

47:28

I agree with you, but I grew up on

47:30

the left and everybody has

47:33

always told me this type of rhetoric.

47:35

And if you listen to, I'm not accusing you of

47:37

this, but if you listen to what Democrats

47:40

say, they, when they talk about the

47:42

budget. They always say, oh, we saved

47:45

$1.2 trillion or $2

47:47

trillion over the course of whatever. Why?

47:50

Well, if you look into it, when they, what

47:53

they say, is it,

47:55

climate change or whatever would've cost

47:57

us this amount of money. But

47:59

for us doing this action

48:02

now, and that would save us

48:04

in the future. Which we all

48:06

look at and are like, you're

48:08

bullshitting. So

48:11

it's so I, I understand what you're saying. And I

48:13

agree with you in a perfect world.

48:15

We should be doing those things. And I do

48:18

think that I think that from, from

48:20

our perspective. Like

48:23

we wanted to build the wall. The wall

48:25

would have cost, let's say between

48:27

five and ten. Billion dollars.

48:31

Democrats just spent, they

48:34

thought it was too expensive, but they just spent

48:36

20 billion dollars over the last two

48:38

years doing what the

48:40

hell they're doing, and now we have to go

48:42

deport them, and it's going to cost a

48:44

lot more money, and then on top of that

48:46

go build a 5 to 10 billion

48:48

dollar wall. So it's

48:50

Which will cost more now, of course, because of inflation.

48:53

of course. Of course. Yeah,

48:55

it's, it's so awesome. Aren't

48:58

they great? Um, but yeah,

49:00

it's, it's, I agree that preventative

49:03

maintenance definitely, um,

49:06

it costs less, but

49:08

I also agree with that's

49:11

what basically people

49:13

on college campuses are saying that college

49:16

should be free. Like, why?

49:18

Well, because that's an investment in

49:20

your future. And

49:22

that's empirically wrong because everybody's

49:25

bitching who went to college and can't get a job

49:27

that they just spent 75, 000 and

49:30

they can't get a job. So it's not really

49:32

an investment. It, it used

49:34

to be when a minority of people went to college,

49:37

when the majority of people go to college,

49:39

it's no longer an investment. It's now just

49:41

daycare for young adults.

49:44

I also don't disagree with you there,

49:46

but I also don't think that, I think that less

49:48

people were bitching during the Trump era than

49:50

are bitching now. I think that there are less

49:53

good jobs now and less

49:55

jobs that, that you need, that need

49:57

that degree. But I also think that we

49:59

have to shift ourself as a culture,

50:02

but also still like the point

50:04

of. College should be free

50:06

based off of preventative maintenance

50:09

of what we could

50:11

do in the future. Like it's an investment almost.

50:15

Yeah. Except most people shouldn't go to college.

50:17

I don't disagree with you there. A hundred percent.

50:19

It we've, we have to shift as a culture

50:22

for sure. Only some jobs have

50:24

to,

50:25

and also technically college is

50:27

free to anyone who wants it to be free

50:29

through the GI bill.

50:33

that's a tough one. So technically

50:35

that's

50:36

choice. If you don't want to have those college

50:38

loans, but you want to go to college. You,

50:41

you take the point in your life when you're

50:43

going to make the least amount of money you're ever

50:45

going to make, which is in your twenties, and

50:48

instead of working for that minimum wage

50:50

job you go into the, in the military

50:53

okay, but tell.

50:54

for your college.

50:55

Tell them to go into the military now,

50:58

that's always going or, or

51:00

moving into D. I. that's

51:02

moving into,

51:04

Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's getting to

51:06

a point where they may not allow straight

51:08

white men in the military at all.

51:10

yeah, right,

51:14

minority trait to even be allowed in the military

51:16

before too long.

51:18

yeah, so, and, and on before that

51:20

it was like, like the Iraq, like the,

51:22

I, I got depth into the Marines

51:24

and, um, I, I didn't go

51:27

because I did, I

51:29

just didn't agree with what, The president

51:32

was doing, Bush was doing at the time, um,

51:34

like just bombing a bunch of brown people in countries

51:37

that I couldn't name and

51:39

so I had

51:45

to be in my high school year, 2008, 2009.

51:47

Yeah, 2008, 2009.

51:52

So yeah, I just didn't agree with um, with

51:55

that

51:55

would have been Barack Obama

51:57

Obama. You're right. Yeah,

52:00

but like he was was

52:02

he doing? He was like

52:04

drone striking a bunch of, bunch of people.

52:07

He loved drone strikes. Yeah.

52:10

Yeah. So like, how do you tell

52:12

somebody to go into that

52:14

when maybe their morals don't align, you know,

52:17

I have tons of respect for military people

52:19

like the other night I was at the bar

52:21

and a very nice

52:23

woman military. She's in the

52:25

Navy.

52:26

Mm

52:27

I just bought her dinner. She just every time I

52:29

see a service person, I try to do something

52:32

for them, but yeah, like, how do you

52:34

tell a person? And I, I asked her

52:36

about that, and she's oh, man, I want to get

52:38

out every day. I

52:40

said, I feel for you, sis. But,

52:43

yeah, like, how do you tell a person that if their morals don't

52:45

align, you know?

52:48

Well, no, that's, that's a very good point.

52:50

And I don't think that everyone should go

52:52

into the military. I'm just saying that the argument

52:54

that you have to go to college

52:56

A is false. And that college

52:58

will give you 80 grand worth

53:00

of debt, no matter what is also false. Like

53:03

you, a don't have to go to college

53:05

at all. B if you

53:07

want to go to college a lot and

53:10

you're not wanting to have those debts,

53:12

then you go in the military. And

53:15

if you can't go in the military because

53:17

of your morals, well, that's a pretty good argument

53:19

that maybe you already have all the knowledge you

53:21

need and you've read the right books. That

53:23

you don't need to go to college.

53:26

Yeah, no, for sure. I dropped out

53:28

of college

53:30

Yeah.

53:30

ended up retiring before all

53:32

of those people. So I ended up five

53:34

a

53:35

the list of, of the most successful

53:37

people in the history of the United States is

53:39

chock full of people that dropped out of college.

53:41

hundred percent, a hundred percent.

53:44

That's

53:46

Steve jobs, Bill Gates, Elon

53:48

Musk, you, you name it. Guys that are

53:50

the most successful in the history of the country,

53:53

all dropped out of college.

53:55

it's a different fire that you

53:56

Even Zuckerberg. Who's a schmutz,

53:59

but he's, he also dropped out of college.

54:01

Snake. What a snake.

54:03

Huh.

54:04

But yeah, like it, it's tough.

54:06

I think that um, for

54:09

doctors and stuff like that, like if you

54:11

can pass a certain amount or keep

54:14

your GPA. I don't know if you saw

54:16

this, but I think that Ohio is going

54:18

to start paying students, I don't agree with

54:20

this why, but they're going to start paying

54:22

students for good attendance. I

54:25

think they should start paying them for good grades, not

54:29

just showing up, you know what I mean? Maybe double

54:32

the prices, but it's an incentive. Yeah,

54:34

I know. But like, how did we get to a point

54:36

in our society where we're paying students?

54:39

To go to school,

54:41

Well, you used to, you, you would be

54:43

in danger of getting kicked out of public

54:45

school if you had too many truancies back

54:47

in my day.

54:48

oh, yeah, that's a so

54:51

it's such a strange place.

54:54

Yeah. And again, all of these things

54:56

that we're discussing that are happening right now,

54:58

these are all areas that

55:01

point towards a major decline of the United

55:03

States in its future. Um,

55:05

and that's why I think certainly changing

55:09

the, the president to

55:11

a conservative one would be

55:14

a good move. It would help to

55:16

Remove the acceleration that we're feeling

55:19

towards a big black hole, but

55:21

I also don't think that it's going to just automatically

55:24

reverse the course of the country. Too many

55:26

things are already set in place

55:28

that the United States, its economy,

55:31

its level of lifestyle,

55:34

its ability to be

55:36

the world police. All these things

55:39

all are, in my opinion, they've

55:42

already gone past the point of no return.

55:44

These things have

55:46

Already started to get

55:48

into a permanent future change

55:51

and no amount of

55:53

changing presidents is going to change that

55:56

course of action. You know, when Saudi

55:58

Arabia, who was essentially

56:01

funded by the United States and all the oil

56:03

fields were developed by the United States and

56:05

yes, some European countries as well,

56:08

but really post world war

56:10

two spending and agreements

56:13

helped that country become the largest.

56:16

Really a

56:19

kingdom, right? It's, it's a Imperial

56:22

country. It's they, they have a King. They

56:24

don't have a president. Um,

56:26

and even a country like that, that has seen so

56:29

much benefits from the United States. He's

56:31

joining BRICS. That tells you something.

56:35

yeah, for sure. Yeah, I

56:37

agree with you. We're we are really,

56:39

really big trouble as a nation. If we

56:41

don't come together pretty soon. It's

56:44

going to be rough. And I don't think that.

56:47

Trump is the conservative president.

56:50

I think that he's a

56:51

Mm hmm.

56:52

And I think that that's why I was really big on

56:54

the VEC because

56:56

Oh, yeah. Vivek is way

56:58

better than Trump. There's no two ways about it.

57:01

yeah, yeah,

57:02

have Vivek as the next president, I

57:04

mean, that would be the biggest

57:06

changer for the United States

57:09

ever. But

57:11

you saw he only got 7 percent in

57:13

Iowa.

57:15

yeah. That's it's

57:18

to intelligent people. He does not appeal

57:20

to people that get their news by watching

57:22

television.

57:25

doesn't even on our side. Like I saw

57:27

so many people on the libertarian

57:29

side use the same exact tactics

57:32

that they, that they hate from

57:34

the left that are like, Oh, well. This

57:37

person is just like a status person

57:39

and that's why they're voting for them. Just

57:41

listen to what they're saying. Listen to what Trump

57:43

is saying. Okay, well then listen to

57:46

what Vivek is saying. You know, it's what

57:48

are you, what are you talking about?

57:50

again, anybody's better than Biden.

57:52

But although probably not Gavin Newsom,

57:54

he'd be worse, but you,

57:58

you listen to Trump and Trump is

58:00

all about creating

58:03

stories, stories of

58:05

talking about how great we are, how

58:07

great America is, how the future is going to

58:09

be wonderful. He has zero

58:12

actual plans. There's not

58:14

a goddamn thing he said he's actually going to do.

58:16

It's all. Just saying

58:18

things that make you feel good. And

58:21

there's a place for that, right? You can't

58:23

be a politician without having some of that,

58:25

but you listen to Vivek in contrast

58:27

and Vivek's got actual solutions

58:30

to things, get rid of

58:32

the FBI. You don't need them as an

58:34

organization. They're probably. Extra,

58:37

um, constitutional

58:39

anyway, like there, there, there's

58:42

no authorization for the federal government

58:44

to have them in place. So you

58:46

transfer some of the agents, you let the bureaucrats

58:48

go. Boom. You just got rid of the

58:50

whole agency. You saved a bunch of money and

58:53

you've made American lives better and safer.

58:57

I think that like I call Trump, Trump

59:01

is the little John of the Republican party.

59:04

Mm

59:04

He's like, he's you can't name any

59:07

little John hits, but you know,

59:09

all the songs that little John was

59:11

in, you know, like he just, he's

59:13

the hype man and,

59:15

yeah, he's a master of that.

59:17

Yeah, he's great at that. But outside

59:20

of that, like policy, there are several

59:22

things that like, they just told Trump

59:24

he couldn't do, and he never investigated

59:27

whether or not he could do that or not. He

59:29

was just like, oh, whatever.

59:31

and that's the thing. It's like he he's so

59:33

believed in his

59:37

Inability to be bamboozled

59:41

that he didn't notice when

59:43

everybody else that he brought in

59:46

like John Bolton Are all

59:48

doing a circle around of

59:51

him and they're, you know, like he,

59:53

he said, we were going to end our

59:56

presence in Afghanistan and

59:59

the people that he brought in to

1:00:01

oversee the generals said, yeah, yeah,

1:00:04

yeah. And then, meanwhile, they're all

1:00:06

talking to each other saying. Well, he

1:00:08

may want that, but we're not actually going to do it.

1:00:12

What, how, how do you bring

1:00:14

people like that in? That's insane to

1:00:16

me. I mean, it's

1:00:19

just, it's very frustrating. It's the thing

1:00:21

that I think. I

1:00:24

believe that this is, this is the

1:00:26

worst thing about Trump

1:00:29

is that he

1:00:31

drinks his own Kool Aid way too much

1:00:34

and he is, he's

1:00:36

not pessimistic enough, right? I

1:00:38

want somebody who's putting

1:00:40

on a brave face, but deep down is

1:00:43

thinking. We are so fucked.

1:00:45

How am I going to get us out of this? And

1:00:47

I feel like Trump is the guy that says,

1:00:50

Oh, we know exactly what to do. We got it

1:00:52

all figured out. All we need to do is just get the votes

1:00:54

and we're good to go. And he believes it.

1:00:57

Yes.

1:00:59

But he's also got maybe another

1:01:01

five years to live. And then he doesn't care after

1:01:03

that. He's out of here. That's

1:01:06

another reason I don't want somebody that old. You know?

1:01:09

It's just, there ought

1:01:11

to be, and I hate

1:01:13

to be the guy that says a generalization, but

1:01:15

I kind of feel Like after you hit 69,

1:01:17

maybe you should get out of politics, go

1:01:19

retire, play some golf.

1:01:22

we certainly shouldn't be

1:01:23

seven year older making decisions

1:01:26

that affect the entire country. You want

1:01:28

to be a Vivek type and then have Trump

1:01:30

as an advisor. I'm all for that.

1:01:32

Listen to the old man. See what advice he gives

1:01:34

you. But he shouldn't be

1:01:36

the one who's president

1:01:39

Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I

1:01:42

just think that people are, people

1:01:45

will never go for it because they, they

1:01:48

don't, they're not going to read

1:01:50

the things. Yeah, they're not going to read the things.

1:01:52

They're not going to, even on our side it's just. It's

1:01:55

more really kind of screwed, honestly.

1:02:01

And that's the thing is like when you start realizing

1:02:03

just how screwed the country is even in the best

1:02:05

case scenario, then. If

1:02:08

you're an intelligent person, what you start to have to start thinking

1:02:10

about, okay, world's going to go

1:02:12

to hell. How

1:02:14

big of an influence can

1:02:16

I be on the people closest to me

1:02:19

to minimize the damage in that? And you start

1:02:22

thinking in small terms instead of big terms. It's

1:02:24

not about making America

1:02:26

great again, because frankly, That

1:02:28

sounds good and ain't ever going to happen.

1:02:31

What I'm more concerned with is how

1:02:34

do I minimize the suffering to

1:02:36

people I know? What

1:02:38

can I do to help with that? Because

1:02:40

that suffering is coming and

1:02:43

that means, you know, being

1:02:45

a prepper. That means being,

1:02:48

astute in law and politics

1:02:50

and understanding what's coming down the

1:02:52

pipeline. That means understanding finance

1:02:54

enough to know what's coming down. That's

1:02:56

going to ruin most people's 401k

1:02:58

plans. They're going to lose 80

1:03:00

percent of the value of those. And most

1:03:03

people don't do anything beyond that. Um,

1:03:06

you also have to not be a complete speculator.

1:03:09

You can't keep all your money on a thumb

1:03:11

drive in Bitcoin. That's also

1:03:13

extremely risky and is frankly

1:03:16

prone to be shut down at any minute. Like you're

1:03:18

just sitting and hoping that

1:03:20

nothing bad happens. And it's

1:03:22

also not about keeping a little

1:03:25

one ounce gold bricks in your closet

1:03:27

either, because everything

1:03:30

will become extremely expensive. You're going to have to trade

1:03:33

a one ounce gold brick. For

1:03:36

one day's worth of food. Cause you

1:03:38

know what? No one gives a shit about gold when you're

1:03:40

looking for food.

1:03:43

So I think that I

1:03:46

agree with you, like for our diverse, from a diversification

1:03:49

standpoint, need

1:03:51

to like definitely up

1:03:54

their game. I also

1:03:56

happen to understand that Bitcoin

1:03:59

makes the people

1:04:01

who make real money, a

1:04:03

lot of money. So.

1:04:07

It's never gonna go away.

1:04:09

No. And that's the thing is if you can

1:04:12

use anything as a speculative

1:04:14

vehicle, right? So, um,

1:04:18

it's a, it's

1:04:21

just a way to actually make money.

1:04:23

The problem is for most Americans is

1:04:26

they're counting on. Mutual

1:04:28

funds to be their retirement

1:04:31

fund that outpaces inflation.

1:04:34

Oh, yeah.

1:04:35

happening.

1:04:36

The regular American is really dumb.

1:04:38

But

1:04:41

they have this blind faith and blind trust

1:04:44

that somebody is going to save

1:04:46

them. And that's why I think that people

1:04:48

get pushed into government. Because

1:04:51

like they they really honestly want

1:04:53

a father figure to come and save

1:04:55

them. But more than just a father figure

1:04:58

they want literally a Jesus Christ

1:05:00

type figure to come and save them and

1:05:02

that's it's it's really tough to get outside

1:05:05

of that

1:05:07

I again I just blame movie studios

1:05:09

because they've Intoxicated people

1:05:11

with this idea that you know

1:05:14

that there are magical superheroes out

1:05:16

there who will give up their own lives

1:05:18

for themselves Just to help

1:05:20

you get saved.

1:05:23

Now this is such a crock of shit that has nothing to do

1:05:25

with reality. Superheroes are the

1:05:27

male equivalent of the fairy princess

1:05:29

being saved by the Prince. You

1:05:31

know, it's, it's unrealistic, it's

1:05:33

kids stories, literally, these are

1:05:35

comic book heroes. And

1:05:38

you've got whole generations of people, including

1:05:40

people your age, who are so

1:05:42

obsessed with this idea that they

1:05:46

literally live their lives as though superheroes

1:05:48

are real.

1:05:50

I don't disagree with you, but

1:05:52

human beings need to be

1:05:55

told stories Like from

1:05:57

the earliest stories like till

1:05:59

now all those stories are the same

1:06:01

like I read um jordan

1:06:03

peterson's um It's

1:06:06

first book maps of meaning and it talked

1:06:08

about like the first story ever told

1:06:11

by time at and stuff and

1:06:13

like all of the stories like hero stories

1:06:15

are all the same archetype and

1:06:18

human beings just think in those

1:06:20

archetypes. So I don't think that you'll

1:06:22

ever get rid of them. I just think that the narrative

1:06:25

needs to change

1:06:26

What you got to realize is there, there are stories

1:06:28

meant to illustrate

1:06:31

ideas that are too complex

1:06:33

for the person listening to the story

1:06:35

to understand. That's why they're for children. And

1:06:38

yeah, stories is a way that we communicate

1:06:42

hopes, dreams, ideas, and history.

1:06:46

If you never mature

1:06:48

beyond the level of those

1:06:50

stories, which unfortunately in this country, we have a

1:06:52

whole lot of people that never mature past

1:06:54

that point. And you're

1:06:57

stuck at thinking that

1:06:59

those, those stories aren't just

1:07:01

myths. They're not just fables, that

1:07:04

they're actual history, that they're actually

1:07:06

how things happen. And, and

1:07:08

that's a very dangerous thing that leads exactly

1:07:11

to the path that we're going down right now, which

1:07:13

is a path to America becoming

1:07:15

a second world country.

1:07:18

for sure. How do we stop

1:07:20

it? You think? Because the story has

1:07:23

to change. There's no way you're gonna get rid of that.

1:07:26

Yeah, well, and, and look, what

1:07:28

Hollywood has been extremely

1:07:30

successful at doing and Disney's part of Hollywood

1:07:33

is in finding things

1:07:35

that a lot of people want to see,

1:07:38

right? They make their money by selling tickets.

1:07:41

Whether those tickets are in person at theaters, like in

1:07:43

the old days, or whether they're in buying

1:07:46

a streaming media, like they are right now,

1:07:48

they're ultimately they're selling tickets. They're

1:07:51

always going to repeat the

1:07:53

story that is the most similar.

1:07:55

So, um, I mean, if you read

1:07:57

Jordan Peterson book, um, I assume

1:08:00

you read Joseph Campbell's book as well, if

1:08:02

you haven't definitely read it, the

1:08:05

hero with a thousand faces which tells the,

1:08:07

basically the archetypal hero

1:08:09

journey story. And

1:08:12

it's, it exists for

1:08:14

a reason because it's what we want

1:08:16

to demonstrate to

1:08:19

our children as the righteous

1:08:21

path and

1:08:25

the reason that it, it really

1:08:27

resonates with humans, like

1:08:30

you don't have to be religious to think that because you

1:08:32

can very easily explain it with,

1:08:35

um, evolution

1:08:37

as well because the people who

1:08:39

didn't teach that story to

1:08:41

their children, the people that lived it. Lives

1:08:44

that were not righteous didn't get

1:08:46

to live. long enough and pass

1:08:48

on their genes the

1:08:51

way that the people who did. So this,

1:08:53

this can be explained either evolutionary

1:08:55

or biblically doesn't matter, but

1:08:58

it is, it is something that we

1:09:00

have as a common, um,

1:09:03

you know, a common theme as,

1:09:06

as humans is this hero's

1:09:08

journey idea. A hero can't be

1:09:10

a hero without suffering. A hero

1:09:12

can't be a hero without redemption.

1:09:15

A hero can't be a hero

1:09:18

with selfishness. These are universal

1:09:21

truths and, and so

1:09:23

if you start making movies that all basically

1:09:25

are the same damn story repeated with different

1:09:27

people playing the characters, you're

1:09:30

going to have sellouts. Everyone's going

1:09:32

to keep watching your stupid movies because they're

1:09:34

all the same story and they're all a story

1:09:37

that resonates with humanity. Um,

1:09:39

the problem is that

1:09:43

when you tell that story to a child to inspire

1:09:45

them, you're achieving

1:09:47

the desired result when that

1:09:49

child. Goes and

1:09:52

watches that story 34 times

1:09:54

because they love the characters while they're

1:09:56

living in your basement, smoking weed.

1:09:58

And eating junk food. They're

1:10:01

watching somebody else's story,

1:10:03

not their own. that's

1:10:06

where we are right now is we're seeing a lot

1:10:08

of other countries start

1:10:11

to pull away from the United States

1:10:13

and no longer aspire to be like

1:10:15

the United States. The United States

1:10:18

is losing

1:10:21

its starring role as

1:10:23

the hero. In the hero's journey.

1:10:25

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm

1:10:28

No, I, I totally agree. And I, I. I

1:10:30

told my nephew this, um,

1:10:33

over a decade ago, he, he had

1:10:35

a little bit of a tragic life. His

1:10:38

father was followed by an off

1:10:40

duty police officer. And

1:10:43

then the police officer, like he noticed

1:10:45

that he followed him. And so he stopped the car,

1:10:48

confronted the guy and the police officer

1:10:50

shot him. So my nephew is

1:10:52

going to get a few hundred thousand

1:10:55

dollars when he turns 18. And

1:10:58

so when he was 10. I,

1:11:00

I said, don't be

1:11:03

a content watcher,

1:11:06

be a content creator. That

1:11:08

people don't watch what the people

1:11:10

are doing. You create your

1:11:12

own content and you have

1:11:14

and build your own audience. And

1:11:19

needless to say, he didn't do it, but that's

1:11:24

just the way it works. But so I asked

1:11:26

him, cause like he had to move back in with

1:11:28

my mom because his

1:11:30

life just wasn't going the way it was supposed

1:11:32

to be going. And he's just waiting for that.

1:11:35

Whatever money so he can blow it,

1:11:38

blow it really, really quickly and be

1:11:40

back to the same spot. But so

1:11:42

like I asked him like, okay, so I told you 10 years

1:11:44

ago to be a content creator and there

1:11:46

have been several millionaires made

1:11:49

out of that struggle.

1:11:52

Where's your money? And he said,

1:11:54

that's a good point. So

1:11:58

it's and for him, he has time, like

1:12:00

he has time, but what he understood

1:12:02

now is that people are tracking

1:12:04

time no matter what, you know what I mean?

1:12:07

So it's, um, it's really tough, but

1:12:09

like, how do you think that we solved that

1:12:11

or change that message for the new,

1:12:14

new generation?

1:12:16

I think there needs to be, and there probably

1:12:18

will be at some point, I just don't know how it's going

1:12:20

to happen, but I think there needs to be a big

1:12:23

cultural. Or not even

1:12:25

cultural, but really a generational

1:12:27

revolt against the digital.

1:12:31

Connectivity that like I

1:12:33

saw happen from the start

1:12:35

that you kind of were born into, um,

1:12:38

it may not even be Gen Z. It may be

1:12:40

the the double A's. I don't know what the hell that

1:12:42

we call the next generation after Z. The,

1:12:45

the, I think we're going back to a

1:12:47

right. So

1:12:48

Neither. No, I have no idea.

1:12:50

those kids are going to be, we may

1:12:52

start seeing them. Literally

1:12:54

a generational shift that isn't

1:12:57

trying to have a cell phone that wants

1:13:00

to go back to do the stuff that my generation

1:13:02

did. You know, I was a kid in the eighties and

1:13:05

I know it's, it gets old for some people cause

1:13:07

it sounds like all Gen Xers sing

1:13:09

the same song over and over. But when I was

1:13:12

a kid, I had a key to the house

1:13:14

and I would only see my parents for about an hour

1:13:16

a day because when I get home

1:13:18

from school on the bus. I,

1:13:21

I put my school bag away and put

1:13:23

on, you know, play clothes and then

1:13:25

ride my bike for four or five, six

1:13:28

miles to my buddy's house maybe

1:13:30

eat dinner at their house and we'd be screwing around

1:13:32

and doing stuff outside. We'd be drinking

1:13:34

water from the hose. No one gave

1:13:36

a shit about pollution. No one cared about anything

1:13:39

that the modern parents all seem to care about

1:13:41

too much. There were still plenty of people

1:13:44

that were trying to be predators to children

1:13:47

that, again, it's like, it

1:13:50

was not given so much attention

1:13:52

that it would affect the freedom

1:13:55

that children had in my generation. And

1:13:58

by the time you were a kid, like an

1:14:00

awful lot of that changed and you weren't,

1:14:02

you just didn't have the freedom that I did

1:14:04

as a kid to do whatever the hell I wanted

1:14:06

and to not be tied down. And

1:14:09

if I called my parents, it would be once a day

1:14:11

at some point in the evening saying what

1:14:13

time I'm going to be home. Like no

1:14:15

one tracked my GPS signal. No

1:14:18

one could call me anytime they wanted

1:14:20

to, if they were worried. It was just assumed

1:14:22

that don't make your parents

1:14:24

feel like. They got to worry by

1:14:28

calling them once a day, you know, stuff

1:14:30

like that. So I think we're going to see

1:14:32

that in the younger generation, maybe one

1:14:34

that hasn't even been born yet to where they're

1:14:36

going to want that. And

1:14:39

the way to get that is

1:14:42

by issuing the technological ties

1:14:44

that that most people

1:14:46

are tied into today. You know, most people look

1:14:48

at their screen time report. If you're on the Apple

1:14:50

platform or whatever the Android

1:14:52

equivalent of that is, which

1:14:55

shows you how many hours a day you're

1:14:57

glued to your phone screen. And

1:15:00

for a lot of people with full time

1:15:02

jobs, that number is 40

1:15:04

hours a week. Like they're working

1:15:06

full time, but they're on their phone also

1:15:08

full time. When, when are they living? You're

1:15:20

still there. Did I lose you?

1:15:23

Oh, hello.

1:15:25

hello. Did I lose you?

1:15:26

oh, sorry. Sorry. I think it got muted

1:15:28

for a second. I, I, I

1:15:30

agree with you. Um, I

1:15:33

just think that from my perspective,

1:15:35

I understand this from an anecdotal and

1:15:37

also from a

1:15:39

macro perspective of teaching a

1:15:41

little over 10, 000 kids in five

1:15:43

different states. It

1:15:47

is far easier to,

1:15:50

for a kid to accept

1:15:53

helicopter parenting and

1:15:55

soft parenting than it is for

1:15:57

them to reject that. And

1:15:59

so like for me, for my kids, like I just don't

1:16:02

allow that to happen. I just I am tough

1:16:04

with my kids and all of my kids

1:16:06

I'm tough with. but,

1:16:10

every, I, even, I have, my I

1:16:13

have best friends who don't, um,

1:16:15

they don't train their kids to be tough at all. Like

1:16:17

they, they, they helicopter parent

1:16:19

their kids and that's

1:16:22

just, is what it is. I know some fathers

1:16:24

who just aren't, and willingly admit

1:16:26

this, are not a big part of their

1:16:28

kids lives or not a big part

1:16:31

of their, like they're physically there, they're making

1:16:33

the money, but like their mom gets

1:16:35

to decide everything that happens in

1:16:37

the household and it's like the

1:16:40

dad is so emasculated. That

1:16:42

it's like almost the

1:16:44

kid doesn't even almost see. What

1:16:46

a real man is supposed to be. So

1:16:49

I, it's, it's

1:16:50

And again, you could point right at Hollywood

1:16:52

for that as well,

1:16:54

Oh yeah, no, I don't, I don't disagree

1:16:56

with you for sure. I just don't, it's

1:16:58

tough for me to see that as a solution because,

1:17:01

um, the, the people are just

1:17:04

not choosing the hard

1:17:06

road anymore.

1:17:07

but they're not going to have a choice.

1:17:09

yeah.

1:17:10

nothing else, society

1:17:13

is a self correcting system, like

1:17:16

all of society, all of human society. Whenever

1:17:19

there's a dip to one side,

1:17:22

there will come out a corrective

1:17:24

force. So for example,

1:17:27

as the United States loses its place

1:17:29

as a dominant first world country,

1:17:32

as our standard of living declines, as

1:17:35

through we start dealing, because one of

1:17:37

the things I predicted recently is we're going to get to

1:17:39

100 percent inflation, a hundred percent a year.

1:17:42

Um, I think it's going to happen, may not happen next

1:17:44

year, but it's certainly going to happen within

1:17:46

our lifetimes. And

1:17:48

or within my lifetime. So in, in less

1:17:51

of your lifetime. Um,

1:17:53

and I think that things

1:17:56

like that, regardless of what

1:17:58

people's desires or interests are and how they

1:18:01

interact with their kids, it's going to

1:18:03

lead. To certain realities

1:18:06

that you don't have a choice for.

1:18:08

You will have to have parents that

1:18:10

work 60 to 80 hours

1:18:12

a week. You will not get to see

1:18:15

either one of your parents if you have them. And

1:18:17

if you only have one parent, you

1:18:20

may not have a parent. Because your parent is going to have to

1:18:22

give you up for a,

1:18:24

um, Either adoption or a

1:18:26

a home for Um,

1:18:29

you know, Children from families that can't

1:18:31

care for them because I think we're gonna

1:18:33

get to a point where the average

1:18:35

American cannot take care

1:18:37

of a child in a single family

1:18:39

household. We used to be there.

1:18:42

If you look back in the history of the United States for most

1:18:44

of that history, the 1800s all the way

1:18:46

up through about 1940.

1:18:49

A single parent could not

1:18:52

make enough money to raise

1:18:54

a child. You'd have to give up your children.

1:18:57

That's that was reality for America. And

1:19:00

I think it's going to become reality one more time. And,

1:19:03

and the, the

1:19:05

thing that's hard for people to realize is that

1:19:08

a lot of the, what Trump would describe

1:19:10

as the greatness of America, um,

1:19:13

You know, and I want to say the greatness

1:19:15

of America to me was in the Founding Fathers.

1:19:18

It was in the fact that men were willing

1:19:20

to risk their lives to

1:19:22

take their freedom from a king

1:19:25

and then to create a form of government

1:19:28

to provide a level of freedom

1:19:30

that had not existed anywhere in the world

1:19:33

like that. Is America's

1:19:35

greatness, but when most people think, including

1:19:37

Trump, I think of the greatness of America

1:19:40

is really the post World War Two years.

1:19:43

It is really the global domination of

1:19:45

the world by America because

1:19:47

we were the only superpower

1:19:50

that was not affected by destruction

1:19:52

in World War Two. Russia

1:19:55

obliterated, Japan obliterated,

1:19:59

all of Europe recovering

1:20:01

greatly from World War II invasions,

1:20:03

Germany completely bombed out

1:20:05

and obliterated by Russia and the

1:20:07

United States. The UK barely

1:20:09

survived. There were no countries

1:20:12

left. And then South America and Africa and

1:20:14

Australia had no population to

1:20:16

speak of, like they were not world

1:20:18

powers. So America is the only country

1:20:20

that was left. Essentially standing

1:20:23

without any kind of infrastructural damage.

1:20:26

And so by default

1:20:29

became the greatest country in the world.

1:20:32

And then through some very smart

1:20:34

decisions made by people like

1:20:37

making the U S dollar, the The global

1:20:39

trade currency. Um,

1:20:42

we were able to hold onto that much

1:20:44

longer than the period of recovery post

1:20:46

World War II to a

1:20:48

point where you know, certainly

1:20:50

up till about the year 2000, up till

1:20:52

about 19, 9, 11, the

1:20:55

United States was still sitting

1:20:59

on the benefits of those decisions post

1:21:01

World War II. And, and that's, I think what most people,

1:21:03

including Trump referred to as

1:21:05

the greatness of America. It's that period

1:21:07

of time. The problem

1:21:10

is that. Unless

1:21:12

we have another world war

1:21:14

or some other calamity, like maybe

1:21:16

a, a massive asteroid crashing

1:21:18

in the middle of Europe and destroying

1:21:20

most of Europe, unless that

1:21:22

was to happen, and

1:21:25

we're just not in a position to do that. We

1:21:28

don't have the infrastructure

1:21:31

for manufacturing we've outsourced

1:21:33

most of our technology. As well

1:21:35

as manufacturing out of the United States.

1:21:38

We have a tremendous problem

1:21:40

with, um, a

1:21:42

lot of the brain trust

1:21:45

that used to exist in the United States now

1:21:48

actually being foreign

1:21:50

brain trusts, and I'm not knocking

1:21:52

people in other countries that choose to pursue

1:21:54

PhDs and get. To be experts

1:21:56

in physics and other disciplines at

1:21:58

all. I think they're doing the right thing for them. The problem

1:22:00

is when you look at the papers that are

1:22:02

coming out, the research papers that are from the United

1:22:05

States universities, I

1:22:08

don't know if you've looked at this, but all you gotta do is pick

1:22:11

a random, random paper. You'll see

1:22:13

names that are over,

1:22:15

over half of them are Chinese. And

1:22:19

they're spending their time studying

1:22:21

in the United States, getting their PhDs down here,

1:22:23

or they're doing post doc work or

1:22:27

Indian. There are not

1:22:29

a whole lot of scientific papers

1:22:32

being published on research that is groundbreaking

1:22:35

by people with the last name Johnson

1:22:39

or Smith. It's just not

1:22:41

happening. And a

1:22:43

lot of the people that are coming to the United States

1:22:45

for their degrees and are working

1:22:47

on the cutting edge research they're,

1:22:50

they're not really like immigrants.

1:22:53

They didn't come here to escape their, their mother

1:22:55

country. They're. Their families are back

1:22:57

there, they're going to return there. They're going

1:22:59

to work for firms from

1:23:01

those countries, even if they live

1:23:03

somewhere outside of China, they're

1:23:05

still working for a Chinese manufacturing company.

1:23:08

And those ideas are going to be benefiting

1:23:10

China more so than the United States. So I think

1:23:12

there's an awful lot happened in the last

1:23:14

20, 30 years that is

1:23:17

going to ensure that the United States

1:23:19

does not have that, that

1:23:21

sort of greatest country

1:23:23

in the world. A field that I did

1:23:26

from the end of world war two up until 2000

1:23:28

or so.

1:23:30

so you think that we'll be fighting existential

1:23:33

crisis and losing number

1:23:35

one in the

1:23:36

Or you're just going to like best case scenario.

1:23:39

We're going to see a stall in our

1:23:41

way of life. And you're going to start

1:23:43

seeing other countries, some

1:23:45

that you may have never expected, like Indonesia.

1:23:48

Just pulling way ahead, getting

1:23:51

better high tech, having fewer

1:23:53

jobs that are paying poor

1:23:56

wages, having more of the type

1:23:58

of things that the United States used to have,

1:24:00

which is an ability to export the dirty jobs

1:24:03

and purely focus on the clean jobs. Um,

1:24:06

and that that may be happening in a lot of countries

1:24:08

that the United States frankly didn't think of as being.

1:24:11

First world countries until recently.

1:24:14

So the real question is for

1:24:16

people that, that

1:24:19

have had their eyes open and that have

1:24:21

managed to be financially

1:24:23

successful to a certain extent, um.

1:24:27

Is do you want to find

1:24:30

where to live, where to create a home

1:24:32

for your children as

1:24:34

they become adults? Or

1:24:37

do you just want to live in the same place

1:24:39

that your parents did, even though

1:24:41

it doesn't offer the types of benefits

1:24:44

that, um, they had or that

1:24:46

you had. When you live there and

1:24:49

it's, it's a tough question, but as

1:24:51

a child of an immigrant myself I mean, I'm

1:24:53

technically, I'm an immigrant. I was,

1:24:56

I wasn't born in the U. S. Um,

1:24:58

you know, it's, it's a question that

1:25:01

people ask all over the world all the time is

1:25:04

do I want to stay where I am or

1:25:07

do I want to make the hard,

1:25:09

arduous journey to go someplace

1:25:11

where it may be better for me and my children?

1:25:14

And I think most Americans have not had to

1:25:17

ask that question. For many,

1:25:19

many years, um, probably 200

1:25:21

years or so, because

1:25:24

for the 1800s, the United States

1:25:26

was a land of opportunity because

1:25:28

there was complete, like ultimate

1:25:31

libertarian slash anarchist freedom

1:25:34

in the territories. If you didn't want

1:25:36

to deal with laws of the States,

1:25:38

all you had to do was go further West into

1:25:41

the territories where there might

1:25:43

be a little more lawlessness from the, the,

1:25:46

the Indians, Native Americans out there. From

1:25:48

raids and whatnot. There might be criminals

1:25:50

out there, but also people

1:25:53

kind of left you alone and to do with whatever

1:25:55

crazy thing you want it to do. Like if you're, if

1:25:57

you're into a brand new religion, like Mormonism.

1:26:00

You could head out west and then practice that

1:26:02

religion without being disturbed.

1:26:05

Um, you

1:26:07

know, post World War II, there was other benefits to

1:26:09

being in America. Obviously, it was the only country

1:26:12

that was leading the world in pretty much everything. So,

1:26:15

it's, it's a tough answer. It's not one

1:26:17

that most people have had to think about in this country,

1:26:19

which is, if I can

1:26:21

afford it, do I want to have my

1:26:24

kids grow up somewhere else and

1:26:26

have a better life than they would in this country?

1:26:30

So, yes, I agree with you

1:26:32

to a certain extent. So we were saying

1:26:34

that inflation would get closer

1:26:36

to 100%.

1:26:38

Mm hmm.

1:26:39

Long before that, that's

1:26:41

like saying that the market

1:26:43

forces were going with basically stay

1:26:45

the same. The U S

1:26:47

has air superiority, land

1:26:50

superiority, and ocean superiority

1:26:53

over every other country in the world. We

1:26:56

would just start taking people's stuff.

1:26:59

Well, yes and no. So

1:27:02

the, the U. S. has

1:27:04

more natural resources than most countries.

1:27:07

Absolutely. Um, you

1:27:10

know, you'd have to combine elements

1:27:13

of countries in Africa and

1:27:15

Asia to get the same level of natural

1:27:17

resources the U. S. has. Unfortunately,

1:27:19

we've kind of sabotaged ourselves by cutting

1:27:21

ourselves off with the ankles to not

1:27:23

be able to extract a lot of these resources. To

1:27:26

I don't even mean that. I

1:27:29

don't even mean the resources, like the

1:27:31

resources are the thing, but like we'll

1:27:33

just bomb the hell out of anybody and just

1:27:35

take that stuff. Like our like

1:27:37

military superiority is far

1:27:40

superior in both land,

1:27:42

air, and sea. I

1:27:44

that's just empirically not the case, unfortunately,

1:27:46

or maybe fortunately, um, that

1:27:49

was the case for a large extent

1:27:51

past world war two. But

1:27:53

right now both

1:27:56

China and Russia have

1:27:58

way more missiles. The United States does.

1:28:00

Like a factor

1:28:03

more the, the

1:28:05

C superiority to the United States has,

1:28:07

I think is definitely the case. It's not

1:28:09

really in question, but

1:28:12

you have to wonder, you

1:28:14

know, that superiority only exists

1:28:17

because it hasn't been put to the test.

1:28:19

There have been no naval conflicts

1:28:21

since world war two, literally.

1:28:24

So we've spent a bunch of money building ships

1:28:26

to have the biggest Navy in the world, to have

1:28:28

the most advanced Navy. And we do, we

1:28:30

have the most aircraft carriers. We have

1:28:33

the most battle groups, but

1:28:36

it's all happened in the time

1:28:38

of peace. The only,

1:28:41

the only countries, the United States has

1:28:44

really, I don't even want to say gotten

1:28:46

to war with, because we officially

1:28:48

haven't been in the war. Since world war two,

1:28:50

as far as Congress is concerned, but

1:28:52

the conflicts that we've had, they've

1:28:55

been with substantially weaker

1:28:58

countries that are already

1:29:00

in the middle of internal struggles.

1:29:03

And so we've, we

1:29:06

have kind of acted as the police showing

1:29:08

up with a SWAT vehicle, literally

1:29:11

to a double wide trailer. And

1:29:15

can we take that on? Absolutely.

1:29:17

We can. Um, the

1:29:19

entirety of the U S Navy can be wiped

1:29:22

out by several countries right now

1:29:24

using nothing but missiles. Like

1:29:26

they don't need ships. All they need to do is sink

1:29:28

our ships. That,

1:29:30

that is not something that

1:29:32

can be recreated

1:29:35

in one year. If

1:29:37

the United States starts acting

1:29:39

like a pirate instead of the police.

1:29:42

And I know sometimes the difference between the pirate and the police

1:29:44

is questionable, but if the

1:29:46

United States, like you're saying, Hey, we have the might,

1:29:48

we could just go and take stuff. Well,

1:29:51

see what happens when you do, because

1:29:53

we've always been able to rely on

1:29:55

the idea that we're there to

1:29:58

help the little guy. We're

1:30:00

not there to steal

1:30:02

shit for ourselves, even though we kind of did that in a

1:30:05

lot of places as well,

1:30:06

No one believes that.

1:30:07

but we've always managed to. At

1:30:10

least pretend to look like we're

1:30:12

actually helping. And I think Ukraine's a great

1:30:14

example of that, because, you know,

1:30:16

ostensibly to people that don't understand

1:30:18

history, it's like, well,

1:30:20

Ukraine's a country, then they asked for our

1:30:22

help and, and, and we've providing

1:30:24

the help that they've asked for. That's all there is to

1:30:26

it. It's a much more complicated

1:30:29

issue than that, but even still,

1:30:31

Russia is a country with the GDP

1:30:35

less than the state of Texas. Think

1:30:38

about that. Just the state of Texas

1:30:41

is actually a bigger country, financially

1:30:43

speaking. Then the entirety of the country

1:30:45

of Russia.

1:30:46

Oh, I know it's bigger than most places though.

1:30:48

Like Texas is, I think for a while it

1:30:50

was number five in the world, like the fifth

1:30:53

Yeah. I think Texas is number seven right now.

1:30:55

Yeah, California, I think took

1:30:57

its place, but yeah,

1:30:59

but either way, it's um, you

1:31:02

know, Russia has a lot of

1:31:04

territory. It has a tremendous amount of natural

1:31:07

resources, but it's

1:31:09

not, it, you know, it's

1:31:11

not exactly on par with the

1:31:13

United States in terms of either

1:31:15

population size or its technology

1:31:19

or its GDP or any of these

1:31:21

other things. And

1:31:23

yet what we've seen in

1:31:25

Ukraine is that

1:31:28

all the high tech gear, all the equipment we

1:31:30

sent out there. Is getting destroyed

1:31:35

okay. I'm going to challenge you on that. Are you ready?

1:31:38

go ahead. Good.

1:31:40

The superiority for the

1:31:42

the U S in terms of missiles

1:31:45

and stuff like that. Yes. We are down

1:31:47

missiles, bullets, and armor,

1:31:49

a bunch of other things. We also.

1:31:52

Aren't really in conflict. So

1:31:55

if we had a total war, total,

1:31:58

the United States looks differently when

1:32:00

we're at war, we're making things a lot faster

1:32:03

and during almost everything

1:32:05

in order to win, win that particular

1:32:07

conflict or whatever. Um,

1:32:10

so I can't use that as like

1:32:12

a, a notch against

1:32:15

the air force or anybody.

1:32:16

can just, I can just prove that immediately

1:32:19

right now. We're not at war. There is no constriction

1:32:21

on the supply chain whatsoever. We're

1:32:24

getting all the resources we want. And

1:32:26

yet we're hearing all

1:32:28

these. deficiencies, all these,

1:32:31

oh, well, we can't even ship any more

1:32:33

you know, Abrams tanks to Ukraine because then

1:32:35

we're going to be depleted ourselves here.

1:32:37

We were, we've shipped all the uh,

1:32:41

you know, whatever the anti air rocket systems

1:32:43

that we've shipped out there that we can afford to ship, because

1:32:46

if we ship any more, we're going to be below the minimal

1:32:48

level set by the army. And

1:32:50

there, there is no

1:32:51

that's actually sort of my point. That's sort of my point.

1:32:53

Like

1:32:53

No, but, but

1:32:55

We're not

1:32:55

yeah, but let me, let me finish where I'm going with this.

1:32:57

So. When you talk about total war,

1:33:00

even, even pre total war, do

1:33:02

you think that there's going to be one

1:33:04

thing at all that the

1:33:07

industry that produces this is relying on

1:33:09

shipped out of China? If that happens,

1:33:13

there's not a single system right now that's

1:33:15

manufactured that doesn't rely on components

1:33:17

that are coming from overseas. Someone from China,

1:33:19

someone from Indonesia, someone for, from

1:33:22

other countries, from Korea, from

1:33:24

I don't think we're actually getting anything from Japan anymore.

1:33:27

Um, something certainly from Taiwan.

1:33:30

If you're talking about actual war, that's

1:33:33

the first thing that happens is those supply

1:33:35

lines get cut. It

1:33:37

is much easier for China to prevent

1:33:39

anything from leaving Taiwan because

1:33:42

they're 200 miles offshore

1:33:44

than it is for the United States to

1:33:46

prevent something. You know, leaving Russia

1:33:49

to get to Ukraine.

1:33:50

Right. But the original, the

1:33:53

original point was we don't have

1:33:55

enough missiles and bullets and all this other

1:33:57

stuff. We don't have those things

1:33:59

because we're not actually at conflict. If

1:34:01

we're at conflict, if somebody punches you in

1:34:03

If we're at conflict, we won't be able to produce

1:34:05

them. So we better have

1:34:07

them now while we're not in conflict. Because

1:34:09

once a conflict starts,

1:34:12

I don't disagree with you that we should be preventative

1:34:15

and have preventative measures, but history

1:34:17

has shown so, so much differently.

1:34:19

We've entered, we entered in a World War II

1:34:21

late where Hitler was basically knocking

1:34:23

on our doorstep and still managed

1:34:25

to beat all of these people back. When

1:34:29

you're at total war, you're not making

1:34:32

pillows or TikTok dances and shit

1:34:34

like that. Like your

1:34:35

yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but

1:34:38

again, let's look at World War II. Hitler

1:34:40

was never at our door. Hitler was a friend of the United

1:34:42

States. Henry Ford has a photo of him with

1:34:44

Hitler during the

1:34:46

To a certain extent, right. To a certain Al-Qaeda

1:34:48

was our

1:34:48

the only reason United States entered World

1:34:50

War II as a military power, not

1:34:53

just selling weapons to England,

1:34:55

is because of Japan. Because

1:34:58

we were now having seen

1:35:00

Japan take over the Philippines and take

1:35:02

over large chunks of China and

1:35:05

Korea. Um, it was becoming evident

1:35:07

that Japan's only move forward

1:35:10

beyond the territory they were already conquered would

1:35:13

be North America. And

1:35:15

so we orchestrated the the

1:35:18

blockade, which led to the Japanese

1:35:21

bombing of Pearl Harbor, which brought

1:35:23

us officially into the war. And

1:35:25

then of course we started providing

1:35:28

troops to Europe as well as the Pacific

1:35:30

theater in that dude,

1:35:32

all you got to look at is the number

1:35:34

of troops and the number

1:35:37

of weapons utilized

1:35:39

by America in World War II. And

1:35:42

then compare that to the Russians, the Germans

1:35:44

and the British. And what you will see is the

1:35:46

United States came into the conflict

1:35:49

at about 11 PM to midnight.

1:35:52

And was able to

1:35:55

walk into Berlin having shown

1:35:57

up much later than everybody else who was

1:35:59

at the dance and suffered

1:36:02

very few casualties as a result and

1:36:05

didn't expend a whole lot of either men

1:36:07

or ammunition to do so. So

1:36:10

if the United States would have been in World War

1:36:12

Two immediately from

1:36:14

the point that England was attacked.

1:36:18

I think we would have seen a

1:36:20

very different perspective

1:36:22

on how easy it was to win World

1:36:24

War II. I have full confidence that Germany

1:36:27

would have lost no matter what, but

1:36:29

honestly, they were already, Germany

1:36:31

was already very much on the losing

1:36:34

steps from the massive

1:36:36

losses they had on the Eastern front and

1:36:39

from the fact that as much as we like

1:36:41

to make fun of France the

1:36:43

French influence in Africa. Was

1:36:46

kicking German ass down there as well.

1:36:48

So Germany was in

1:36:51

the process of losing by

1:36:53

the time D Day rolled around and the United States

1:36:55

actually came to Europe.

1:36:58

Okay. But the,

1:37:00

the original point was we

1:37:02

had a lack of resources

1:37:05

and arms to fight. Did

1:37:07

we have, stepping into World War II

1:37:10

during Pearl Harbor, did we have enough troops?

1:37:13

Did we have enough bullets? Did we have enough

1:37:15

we got, we got a

1:37:16

didn't have, we didn't have

1:37:18

enough of any of that stuff. We turned

1:37:20

ourselves into a total war

1:37:23

We had a manufacturing base that could do that,

1:37:25

which

1:37:26

so I just,

1:37:26

do not have today. We,

1:37:29

we

1:37:29

we have the, we have the infrastructure,

1:37:32

but we have the infrastructure for that for

1:37:34

Well, I'd say we have the raw materials

1:37:37

for it. We don't have the

1:37:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just don't have the necessary

1:37:41

need to, to

1:37:42

right? Because we don't have look, it's

1:37:44

not profitable for us to make a

1:37:46

lot of this stuff here because it would cost,

1:37:49

you know, four to 10 times more

1:37:51

than importing the components and

1:37:54

doing nothing but assembly work here.

1:37:56

right. And that's where we get back to the original

1:37:58

point, the cost. And this is

1:38:00

my point. If, if

1:38:02

we're getting to near 100 percent

1:38:05

inflation. We're not just

1:38:07

going to sit around. We're going to just

1:38:09

start taking people's shit. Like

1:38:11

it's not going to be like,

1:38:13

we have a do you know what do you know what rapid dragon

1:38:15

is?

1:38:17

No.

1:38:18

Okay. So like we have Russia

1:38:21

and China have hypersonics

1:38:24

that can move. Like they can hit

1:38:26

moving targets. We don't have that. We have

1:38:28

hypersonic. Our hypersonic can hit

1:38:30

moving targets, but what we do have that

1:38:32

is air superiority against them

1:38:34

is called rapid drag. So

1:38:37

we can launch I think it's

1:38:39

somewhere in the neighborhood of a

1:38:42

thousand. Um,

1:38:46

basically warheads out of C

1:38:48

17s, just 45

1:38:50

out of a C 17 out of each one.

1:38:53

And they can independently hit different

1:38:55

targets over, over a thousand targets

1:38:58

in five or six planes. So

1:39:00

we could wipe basically

1:39:03

an entire country. Like you just said, Russia

1:39:05

has very, very small, they have very large

1:39:08

area, but like very

1:39:09

hmm.

1:39:10

targets that are actually important. If, if

1:39:12

we start to

1:39:13

density is just in a few places.

1:39:16

Oh yeah, like if, if, if shit

1:39:18

really starts to hit the fan, I just think

1:39:20

that we're just probably just gonna start taking people's

1:39:22

stuff. Russia has like an aging population

1:39:25

anyway, they have a population collapse,

1:39:27

um, they're not making enough new people

1:39:30

and they're just murdering all of their young

1:39:32

people

1:39:33

Which incidentally, we're not either. The

1:39:35

only way that our graph looks

1:39:37

better is because of

1:39:40

immigration.