0:07

So much Hundred. Same

0:15

sex, Test

0:18

what get that's knew it. Wouldn't

0:21

work for a sixth. England's

0:23

counting Ben Stokes One he is.

0:25

That. Okay,

0:32

we're going to turn our attention to

0:34

the I Feel That League which begins

0:36

on Friday with the reigning champion C

0:38

F K with playing A C B.

0:40

That tournament goes on for seventy four

0:42

matches. the final on May Twenty six

0:44

So long tournament. This year's some big

0:46

names returning their just have a bit

0:49

of a less the I made Russia

0:51

Pans obviously back from. His

0:53

career near career ending injury.

0:56

From the car crash Desperate bomb

0:58

as sure as I a Pat

1:01

Cummins Mitchell start came Williamson, Jonny

1:03

Bairstow almost the tournament last year.

1:05

some first timers retching revenge. Spencer

1:07

John sitting players involved. My

1:10

list that I made shows: Moeen Ali

1:12

Fill Salt David Willey, Jonny Bairstow Liam

1:14

Livingston, Chris Woakes some current just but

1:16

the Tom Koehler Catmull Will Jax, Tom

1:19

Curran Reese Top Lane loot Would I

1:21

notice Nass. Was. Brought

1:23

in yesterday as a light replacement.

1:27

Lots of things about actually since since

1:29

we last spoke the Wp Alice finished

1:31

with Rc be winning that P S

1:33

L finished. A day or so

1:35

ago with Islam about United winning that

1:37

Australia just called off that three match.

1:40

Series against Afghanistan England's women

1:42

one last night. That

1:44

he twenty opening T twenty against New

1:46

Zealand. Some sadness. Real accounts in as

1:48

Robin Hobbes, a former leg spinner that

1:51

you would have known a little by,

1:53

I should imagine he's passed away sadly.

1:55

Yeah, that was very sad news yesterday.

1:57

I know Hobson a new Obe, See

1:59

what? Like Slate not just from our

2:01

as Six Days and I used to

2:04

say around the county ground Chelmsford but

2:06

also him and his ladd were associated

2:08

with Hutson Cricket Club. And.

2:10

New ways to see him down. Ah

2:13

to my my boys play. My daughter

2:15

played and he always used to be

2:17

there County cricket. Loved a club cricket.

2:19

Love They're. Genuinely

2:21

nice. One of the nicest men

2:23

on the planet. Hobbs. A

2:25

So we're gonna. We're gonna miss him. Essex

2:27

are going to miss him. And.

2:30

That has been a lot happening actually I'm

2:32

and I plug daily to when I thought

2:34

going to get what's that from you saying

2:36

when I said who's gonna win the Wp

2:38

Allah said I can't see beyond daily and

2:41

then I'll see bay from nowhere. Came.

2:43

In one that Islam about United

2:45

allows both thriller like yesterday they

2:48

they one that so. A

2:50

lot of cricket happening out there. Nice to see

2:52

you back in the cold. Of England.

2:55

Back. At home and the nice to

2:57

be here now and. For. Our

3:00

Ip elsa. Were. Going to

3:02

be joined by managed Vitaly whose.

3:04

Principal. Owner or colonna have you

3:06

on a term of of Rajasthan Royals.

3:09

And let out an interesting relationship with a i

3:11

pl at one it once they want it in

3:13

the very first year. And they'll

3:15

ban for a couple years the have one.

3:17

it's sensitive at have downright and they got

3:19

some very interesting players. I'm I'm sure it'll

3:22

to manage a very shortly just while who

3:24

made such an impression in the and that

3:26

test my says. I don't know whether you

3:28

have a team and they I pls but

3:30

I imagine if you did that Roger Stone

3:32

would be your kind of team because in

3:34

the early days they were thought to be

3:36

a bit of a penny pinching team. I

3:38

noticed in the Nasa in the first year

3:41

they spend less on that draft than or

3:43

on on their option than other teams were

3:45

managed. To to walk away with the other your

3:47

team. Now. Of course, Chennai.

3:49

My Chennai boy on Seibu I

3:51

was born a seven iron away

3:54

from. The Cricket

3:56

Ground. So yeah, I a member

3:58

of the Mudras. The Club and

4:00

I'm Tony all the way to nicer

4:03

begin Five time. What? Whether they are

4:05

well and they wanted five times Mumbai

4:07

One it five times What? What?

4:09

To Chennai doing so well Only Tony

4:11

inflaming. Just put those two together. I

4:13

do think there's a little bit of

4:15

die and we're going to come on

4:17

it with manage. We're going to talk

4:19

about the hundred would talk about all

4:22

these franchises but I like an affiliate.

4:24

I guess it comes from success. If

4:26

you have a successful size, you tend

4:28

to keep the captain, the coach similar

4:30

players so think alike and affiliation with

4:32

the side. In any

4:34

franchise tournament in the world, Nothing. That's

4:37

what the ip out of damn well

4:39

you know, coli? Is associated with

4:41

all Seabees, a deli boy born in

4:43

Delhi and get out but his his

4:45

Aussie be so I think that's why

4:47

you've got to get to with fill

4:49

it with with these franchises are notice

4:51

just recently people just sort of go

4:54

from one their one minute their plane

4:56

in South Africa and then I'll turn

4:58

on my tally in the same. Player:

5:00

Is plane in the Pakistan Super League?

5:03

any? Just get a little bit confused.

5:05

As to who plays for who now day

5:07

so I think the ip I'll actually. Does.

5:10

That pretty well and upon my tally. You.

5:12

Know who the captain is, you know

5:14

the coaches, you know who the owners

5:17

are, and as a store a real

5:19

story that's already been built. Yet.

5:22

The same Fleming has been with

5:24

the time since the outset things

5:26

that long time ago. Now, seventeen.

5:28

This is the seventeenth edition and

5:30

and managers I guess I was

5:32

there right at the start of

5:34

it as well as taking a

5:36

bit of a risk as opposed

5:38

to invest in an unknown quantity.

5:41

But it's prudes. We're very shrewd

5:44

and smart investment. Manners.

5:46

Thanks for joining us! Great to see you

5:48

a Madison there that you you were. right?

5:51

There of the start of it when they i feel

5:53

started up in what Two thousand Seven eight? Obviously.

5:56

A bit of a risk that that you

5:58

tell him investing into a tournament that. The

6:00

exist so so you took that

6:02

risk is it turned out a

6:04

a very successful investment I'm sure.

6:06

but but how how should we?

6:08

and how do you measure. Success

6:11

Or Rajasthan Royals? What other metrics? By

6:13

what you might measure success is it.

6:15

You. Know how much the franchise is now worth?

6:18

Or. Is indeed. You. Know how

6:20

many tournament you've won or not one in

6:22

the period that you been involved. And

6:26

look at the get in a does this does

6:28

not symmetric she tracked but I think. Probably

6:31

the two most critical metrics for

6:33

us and. The. Number of engage

6:35

fans are because that sort of drives

6:37

everything that drives you. The

6:40

on the commercial side so we know

6:42

we we we try that very closely

6:44

and including until performance and all this

6:47

really changed I think for us on

6:49

on field performances for the first. Probably.

6:52

Ten years or so, we had to be

6:54

realistic about what our on sale object is

6:56

where. and ah, you know, we made no

6:59

secret of the fact that our. Their.

7:01

Objective was very much to to see if we

7:03

could get into the playoffs. And

7:06

that was largely because. Of

7:08

to the first any as the tournament

7:11

the tournament is the franchise's we're losing

7:13

money. And said

7:15

balancing. Sort. Of unsealed. Performance:

7:18

With the financial side was was

7:20

harder now that the franchises a

7:22

profitable in our field Objective is

7:24

an interest is is is is

7:26

to win and do the best

7:28

that we possibly can answer you

7:30

seen that in said the seen

7:32

that shifting sands of the funds

7:34

that we'd spend on players. Yeah.

7:37

I was slightly taking the mickey out of mass

7:39

wondering whether rather sound with his type of thing

7:41

because in the early days you did have a

7:43

reputation of being a little bit of a. Penny.

7:46

Pinching. Same. You want it

7:48

in the first year? Let's talk a

7:50

little bit about the influence of Shane

7:52

Warne who is your captain in that

7:54

first year and also reputation li. Because

7:57

you want spending as much money, you.

8:00

Your reputation were that was of a

8:02

theme that was using the data and

8:04

the stats very smartly. And. Whether

8:06

that because every everybody else was kind

8:08

of. As. Caught up in that

8:11

sense Now I'm whether you that age

8:13

no longer exists in a way that

8:15

it did for you. Yeah Bill of

8:17

the different questions in any cessna suspect

8:19

Nasa's team is channel as he likes

8:21

to some smaller wrecked cars as. Generally

8:25

generally back to win as after they've

8:27

won the the the question you asking

8:29

about. Said. Finding a point difference of

8:31

finding an edge. I mean look this. a.

8:34

It's. Very easy to sounds small with

8:36

hindsight in the truth about that first season

8:38

was. We know we bought

8:41

a few players. Are the perhaps were

8:43

under valued? A bar. The franchise's plays like

8:45

Shane Watson and Sales and there and they

8:47

made a huge difference and but it but

8:49

a huge part of that success was. Was.

8:52

Dance it Sort A shame ones

8:54

Innovation: Shane Warne, leadership and and

8:56

frankly, shame one's personality and and

8:58

so you can't. See

9:01

how we can talk about being the money ball team?

9:03

But but when I look back at the. That.

9:06

The states are in the. Techniques.

9:08

That we were using am actually have

9:10

a pretty basic is that is the

9:12

truthful answer. Think we tried to find

9:14

points of difference over time. as you

9:16

both know in Am I will this

9:18

technology and dates her. And so it's

9:20

not surprising that. That features

9:22

heavily in In in the way we

9:24

approach it. the of leadership and aligned

9:26

leadership be a wounds of a see.

9:29

Well. Same sir, what he did

9:31

was in the early years, but people

9:33

sometimes forget what Rahul Dravid did first,

9:36

and that was probably a period of

9:38

greatest. Consistency. In

9:40

a we consistently made the playoffs with

9:42

consistently made the Champions league but see

9:44

fit to the second value question is.

9:47

That. The franchises have destiny. Caught.

9:49

Up with each other in the

9:51

margins between them on the. The.

9:54

Ability to find an edge is

9:56

getting tougher and tougher and tougher

9:58

in that first season. Simply.

10:00

Having in a to cover points was a

10:02

massive innovation. In a

10:05

mall is filled. Settings were. You.

10:07

Have seen as groundbreaking baths with the

10:09

number van list the size of the

10:11

support sauce that that seems employee now

10:14

we are constantly looking for those points

10:16

a difference but they are getting harder

10:18

to find. Last. Man

10:20

I felt their about. Character.

10:22

Of of shame on you. I always think. Would.

10:25

Have made a fantastic cats and of Australia

10:27

If given the opportunity on a permanent basis,

10:29

know he did it for a few games.

10:32

Is Lensing on isn't about. About.

10:34

Leadership her and and tests and see by

10:36

by charisma all character which is which is

10:38

how he would have done it. And

10:41

by cricket going on any ticked virtually

10:43

at virtually every single box. the Cricket

10:45

Bryan we work to them and the

10:47

gulf feel for the game is often

10:50

called things before they happened, just before

10:52

they happen has a feel so that's

10:54

a good combination. Manage and the data

10:56

albeit very sort of a basic day

10:59

to at that and all those years

11:01

ago but that. Combined. With

11:03

a golf fear which are always feel

11:05

a team's not even and i read

11:07

Morgan team or just spotless team or

11:09

a dhoni team or whoever the successful

11:11

captains that they have the data but

11:13

they have a cat that has got

11:15

feel. A One thing we had new

11:17

with Shane was his gut feel for

11:19

cricket and his cricket brain the second

11:22

to none but I've managed touched on

11:24

their the character. Shane. Believe that

11:26

he could win a cricket match

11:28

from any position. Or. They gives

11:30

the Adelaide test match were ignorant rock.five hundred

11:32

and fifty or something and he walked into

11:35

the dressing room and told him we could

11:37

still win from here and he boating went

11:39

out on the last day. that was Shane.

11:41

He had a great self belief so he

11:43

was a fantastic Craig it out, fantastic cricket

11:46

Bryant and a smart move. From.

11:48

Mister Manage but Ali was I was a

11:50

man auch decision to go for shane. Her.

11:53

As she was heavily influenced by

11:55

Am by you know the Time

11:57

Said. In a very very old friend.

12:00

Ravi Christian and who are it was working

12:02

I m g seven inches by him because

12:04

it is what it's Get his money that

12:06

she retired. Two. Years before the I

12:08

Feel. So. He wasn't

12:10

actually. In. I want any sort of

12:12

list of potentials, but I got a call from.

12:15

At ravishing in a look one is Rudy. Rudy.

12:18

Up for this and I and I did

12:20

and will make you laugh at it effectively.

12:22

do a bit of a job interview before

12:24

the tournament because actually. As

12:27

he can sink fat to then there were

12:29

lots of questions about he was he was.

12:31

He passed it. Is who he of

12:33

the off field stuff so we did spend

12:35

a couple of us together and in fiber

12:37

in the thing that came across was a

12:39

behind his it's funny looking back mean the

12:41

i feel was sort of made for shame

12:43

want to add everything it was that had

12:45

the razzmatazz at the have failed excitements and

12:48

the thing the pups in are low the

12:50

cricket fans and. Even. You to

12:52

to some extent won't have seen about

12:54

one is yes. had a pretty a

12:56

very strict business brain. And

12:59

also he embraced. Innovations.

13:02

Which is not always true. A fan of

13:05

of of the cricket greats and so it

13:07

was. It was like gives a privileged him

13:09

to work with him. And I've. Talked.

13:12

A little bit about wanna to the players

13:14

that you've got the shield one. it's and

13:16

that opening. Up as we

13:18

keep the monument had have that opening

13:20

this in would ask your fists last

13:23

year when you kind of mid table

13:25

mediocrity it was a go to the

13:27

final the year before serving we just

13:30

it has if we're gonna. as

13:33

well as about young guys while

13:35

we were. We. Were blown away

13:37

by by him in the test series.

13:40

And. The way that he played,

13:42

we've seen his cricket. In

13:44

that test series tell us a little bit

13:47

about about the young man and these characters

13:49

we actually set him up in the last.

13:51

I couldn't. He.

13:53

Has an extraordinary on the nineteen

13:55

World Cup. And we

13:57

paid. What? Was then deemed to be.

14:00

Lots of money for. For

14:02

play them they first class cricket or indeed

14:04

I bill. And then

14:06

we retained him. He was one of our

14:08

a three retention skimming insecure. Sorry

14:11

for one of our for tensions coming into

14:13

this the cycle that only for long time

14:15

him in and as you know because you

14:18

guys got kids and in your twenties you

14:20

whenever you talk about. These.

14:22

These players in these cats and these individuals

14:24

that changeable time and I've done with him

14:26

on than. On. Thursday nights actually

14:29

in Mumbai and you know saying

14:31

to. Send. My wife in

14:33

it's amazing how yes has changed in

14:35

the six months since he was. In.

14:37

A with Us in dem absence of these

14:39

characters are changing and and and against the

14:41

people watching. Eat. Sometimes we don't

14:44

appreciate how rapid that changes. I mean,

14:46

this is a guy who a year

14:48

ago. Was. Probably earning half a

14:50

million dollars a year. In.

14:52

Total. From a background where

14:55

he used to sleep on the side

14:57

of the pitch in the groundsmen tends

14:59

to nine months later, he's not getting

15:02

two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for

15:04

a day photoshoot. And so

15:06

in a in a we also wilson

15:08

judge these players. By. What they

15:10

do on the pitch without perhaps appreciating

15:12

the pressures that they're subjected to off

15:15

the pitch since. and he gives you

15:17

a basic rights within within the England

15:19

com Sex. but you know what that

15:21

will? That means for young man in

15:23

India where you can basically no longer

15:25

go out of the house way you've

15:27

got people. Hanging outside of you

15:30

slap to to get selfish with it's how

15:32

that changes and so is where I think

15:34

you're going with a question to some extent

15:36

is. How he handles

15:38

the off field. Is going to

15:41

be his and that's where we talked about three or

15:43

four as a visit. Us. Is. Gonna

15:45

be on almost More important,

15:48

The. Most put in front of him on the say.

15:51

That. Was going to me My question actually

15:53

do sense that he is surrounded by. Good.

15:55

People. And that or you

15:58

know that the challenges that you. That.

16:00

You've outlined there which I agree with you

16:02

have is the great challenge but any young

16:04

kind of up and coming star of Indian

16:07

cricket is how to how to handle lowly

16:09

as at the attention as com a goldfish

16:11

bowl that they live and you get the

16:13

sense that he's surrounded by good people and

16:16

has good people said to talk to and

16:18

and be advised by so that those challenges

16:20

a more easily overcome. Yeah. Look I

16:22

like to think is a franchise

16:24

with pretty good at supporting his

16:27

paws. mean game changing and. Potential

16:29

I'm realizing for hims is always been

16:31

a month for since in a ravaged

16:33

A to play first in two thousand

16:35

eight so I I would say but

16:37

I think is in the right franchise

16:39

to get that support or Rahul Dravid

16:41

as the India coach has been already

16:44

use the important to him and will

16:46

be both an Ira Hope you know

16:48

there are very few wiser. Heads.

16:52

But it's vet but it's a ease into question

16:54

you ask was literally the topic of center which

16:56

is how do we. Had a

16:58

you advise young man like that.

17:01

Said. Fills a structured around him to deal

17:03

with everything that's going to come at him

17:05

and I think the honest answer and I

17:07

think if he was on this podcast he'd

17:09

say no. He doesn't have that structure yet

17:11

but I fear the next for six months

17:13

we can help him put in place and

17:15

is part of the seriously good top three.

17:17

I mean that's the amazing thing I look

17:19

at the Ip I will get on to

17:21

the side you have this year. but I

17:24

look at all those Ip all sides and

17:26

the players in there that you have signed

17:28

a You have your spotless one of the

17:30

all time Weibo greats you've got. Choice while

17:32

he's gonna be one of the greats in

17:34

my opinion and on multi formats. and yep

17:36

signs you sons and coming in at number

17:39

three and kept in the I saw him

17:41

on Star Sports the other day. talk about

17:43

you approaching him and that Dubai or someone

17:45

same will you be captain and how he

17:47

reacted to that. What was it? A difficult

17:49

decision? To. Make signs. Yeah, I mean

17:52

you've already mentioned the likes of worn and

17:54

dravid. You've. Gone for come on

17:56

when maybe not as much experience. He

17:58

adds a really interesting question and and

18:00

the truthful answer is it was a

18:02

difficult decision for for for for the

18:04

reasons that you intimate which is he

18:06

wasn't a proven cats and than an

18:08

hour but I think it was a

18:10

long term decision and and again when

18:13

you talk about in a having a

18:15

great top three in a you're talking

18:17

about that and cricketing sense and and

18:19

and play the I would agree with

18:21

you we also got a great for

18:23

a great salt three you don't serve

18:25

as a character and mean you couldn't

18:27

neat find a human beings and just

18:29

butler and Sandhu Samson and of the

18:31

both no jobs but you know in

18:33

terms of humidity in terms of curiosity

18:36

and sense of character in a we're

18:38

ready ready privilege and when you when

18:40

you picking a captain again as you

18:42

both know. Of course the

18:44

cricket matches but the current said

18:46

the value set the they create

18:49

for the franchise the environment the

18:51

they created franchise because. Again,

18:54

To. Try and sort of share things

18:56

that the fans won't necessarily see.

18:58

Is. That. Melding.

19:01

Together of cultures, egos, players

19:03

playing for fifty thousand dollars,

19:05

other players playing for to

19:07

two million dollars and actually

19:09

bringing that together generally in

19:12

the space of about ten

19:14

days. Before. Then literally living

19:16

with each other for. Two. Months

19:18

that that sort of my life. I

19:20

personally yeah I was a as a

19:22

as Nasa's as a non curricular would

19:24

that would I find I find a

19:27

managerial side of pulling all of that

19:29

together as interesting as the sort of.

19:31

You. Know how good the in and strike

19:33

rate of the top three is An were

19:36

also blessed actually with some other big characters

19:38

I'm in. Ashwin

19:40

and use each a hall

19:42

a pig pig characters similar

19:44

trampled to spin around franchise

19:46

cricket. You. Know and pretty

19:48

much experienced every. M

19:51

M. When would putting those teams together? You have to

19:53

get that. Blend. Of experience

19:55

I hope that to play as that

19:57

you're talking about. At the end

19:59

of this. Solomon Outreach your allen

20:01

them remember up because we're

20:03

excited! By. The potential of

20:05

those two players as we were last

20:08

year about Plasma just one. With.

20:10

That were so I'm sure I'll get of

20:12

the you know starts in the test series.

20:15

Recently played. Really? And in

20:17

that second innings of the Ramsey Test match

20:19

when he showed his his character I suppose

20:21

above all. but he certainly looks at a

20:23

top class where he gave a batter as

20:25

well. nephew you're saying we just before manage

20:27

came on after you notice it picks up

20:29

at. A. Contract from Bc

20:31

Cia as the other day

20:33

and the balance manage between.

20:36

Between. The control of the players That

20:38

you know you that they are your players

20:40

in terms of the franchise in the I

20:43

Pl, but they're also under a central. Contract.

20:46

From from Bc C I. A.

20:48

Is A does that work very easily as

20:50

in you know what? whilst the Ip earlier

20:52

wife whilst the Ip alleys on they are

20:55

yours and and then beyond the have you

20:57

know they're at the back and color the

20:59

Bc Cia. Yeah. I again

21:01

the honest answer would be a works

21:03

pretty well in it is always areas

21:05

you'd like to. He. Such keep

21:07

pushing on. Fleet is a medical. Side.

21:10

Of it is really important given. How

21:12

much these players have a thing

21:15

else to play across multiple formats

21:17

and in a will we're without.

21:19

Proceed Krishna again. This. Season and

21:21

and as tough as a franchise when you.

21:24

You. Know. That. Sort of seven or

21:26

eight percent of your entire player spend on

21:28

a particular player and then that plan

21:30

is unavailable floats form of that. That Hershey

21:33

some medical side is is an area where

21:35

I think with. With. Which to

21:37

work Much honest. I think it's it's

21:39

it's easier in the sense that the

21:41

I Pl and the Bc C I

21:43

a very much one. I mean the

21:45

I Can is so important to the

21:48

Bc Cia and they see that you

21:50

don't have fossils about availability of players.

21:53

Is is it the Bcc I creates

21:55

a window? is he still has that

21:57

challenge And it has sex. The

22:00

value ascribed to some of the international

22:02

players Because there are some countries where

22:04

you know the players you can be

22:06

fully available and there's some countries where

22:08

you know the likelihood of players pulling

22:11

out is greater England being kind of

22:13

one of them. So cc that the

22:15

you see that in the values describes

22:17

the plants. As an owner we three

22:19

and all sports rarely the the impact,

22:21

the interference. What? Type of own

22:23

are all you are you. Someone had a

22:25

watching it in your office as you got

22:28

another job. Hundreds of jobs from what I've

22:30

seen going on around the world. He got

22:32

the correctly on and are you picking up

22:34

the phone to Kumar? same? what's a day

22:36

that number five? Why's he plays? Or do

22:39

you stay completely out of cricket matches? Because

22:41

I've seen you play. Out.

22:46

Of there now and pretty perfect test. Notice

22:49

it would be my assessment planet the

22:51

and let the like everyone involved in

22:53

the pl amenities a combat that's a

22:55

nice of it's size is so easy

22:58

to sound smart with onset the i

23:00

felt bits great success Gosh. In.

23:02

A when you none of us knew was

23:04

gonna be this big you know and I'm

23:06

in the last when you refer to teach

23:09

when see as club cricket my back down

23:11

once but anyway the am v that none

23:13

none of us really knew how path think

23:15

this thing was was was was gonna get

23:17

an. Ama think this. I

23:20

certainly had no idea. What?

23:22

Sports. Own shit. Really? Meant

23:24

as the so amusing story I was when

23:27

all that music, the store I was tennis.

23:29

I'm googling in two thousand and I have

23:31

to be a sports arena. A

23:34

know what this franchise ownership made and and and there's

23:36

very little out there is one of the reasons that

23:38

she. Had Sundays

23:40

and I've read that book about a

23:43

new innings to try and sort of

23:45

unpack. What ownership means? What What? What?

23:47

Sports ownership? What the fuss? Franchise ownership

23:49

is the vault with the answer your

23:52

question asses of course you're passionate. Of

23:54

course you do have conversations and a

23:56

cool sometimes you eat you ask questions.

23:58

a. In. Moments. But you

24:01

know com Os and a car as

24:03

well as you know many of the

24:05

names and and and the beauty of

24:07

having a a sort of serious grown

24:09

up. In charge of the cricket. Is

24:12

it says he he's able to manage.

24:14

You know the the the the unnecessary

24:16

questions for me sometimes but you have

24:18

got to let the professionals try and

24:21

do their job. Com William

24:23

Talk about the ip are more generally

24:25

and how it's changed and. Progress.

24:28

over the over the long period of time now

24:30

since since that opening. A additional

24:32

I mean. You

24:34

obviously thought directly says it. Is.

24:36

Easy to see in hindsight but I know the new

24:39

at the time how big it was gonna it. Babe

24:42

I also I kind of like

24:44

and as a as an owner

24:47

you you have no responsibility to

24:49

produce players. You. Haven't have

24:51

to kind of build a ground

24:53

so your outlay as been minimal as

24:55

such am I kind of just think

24:58

about it in a in a

25:00

way that I think about newspaper. sometimes.

25:02

when did you fly that that digital

25:04

world can have transformed and have

25:06

ended? Newspapers newspapers gave a lot of

25:09

that content away for free. They.

25:11

Aggregators then came along and kind

25:13

of takes away and and and

25:16

kind of grew their own. Business.

25:19

Model on the back of the a

25:21

Nice. i sometimes feel like that about

25:23

about the ip alone shit that. You

25:25

know that the players were almost given to

25:28

you. I mean, I know you gotta buy

25:30

them in an option. But,

25:32

but your initial outlay is

25:34

minimal, really. And you feel

25:36

therefore you've you've got lucky in that

25:39

sense of as as as corner of

25:41

your sort of new and bitterness. And

25:44

only thing that you are lots of it

25:46

for the visit the could clearly this and

25:48

truce so the so that to the narratives

25:51

that you you just described i wouldn't sarah

25:53

they was insignificant I mean I mean us

25:55

be clear mean. Even.

25:57

As the cheapest franchise. You.

26:00

Contractually signing up. To. Pay

26:02

seventy million dollars for tournament

26:04

that didn't exist. In.

26:06

A format that hadn't been played in that country.

26:09

In. A country that at the time.

26:12

Was. It was

26:14

hardly an economic. Superpower. And

26:16

mint the for the transit which will that

26:18

the transmission and I pl the transmission the

26:20

ideal. Is. Because it

26:22

is largely because of the transformation in

26:24

India, And. That's going on

26:26

over the last fifteen years. So

26:28

you for signing up to seventy

26:30

million dollars infesting. With. Make a

26:33

profit for the first. Ten Years.

26:36

And you know, across the sort of franchises I'm

26:38

I'm with. We actually did because about. Very.

26:41

Very, I'm miserly approached a

26:43

player spend. But

26:46

you if you look at the

26:48

investment across the a founding franchises.

26:51

Something. Like two hundred and fifty

26:53

million dollars when since of the game.

26:55

Before. Profit was meant that. Now

26:58

I think that's quite a big

27:00

outlay, and quite a big. Economic

27:02

risk and if you put that in

27:04

the context of investments made. Into.

27:07

Cricket by Broadcasters. By.

27:10

A sponsors etc. that wasn't that was

27:12

enormous amounts of money. Settings in of

27:14

an accurate depiction of history would be

27:16

the The Bc see I made an

27:18

enormous investment in the I feel. But.

27:21

So did the ownership group. And.

27:23

Without that investments. Either

27:26

think the I bill would have been.

27:28

As big as it's become, you know

27:31

it's not just the macro economic environment

27:33

disturbing that success. if you need investment,

27:35

which I'm sure we're gonna come on

27:38

to in the context of England

27:40

game, but you don't. You don't build

27:42

properties of scale. Without. Significant

27:44

investments and the changing face of

27:47

the I Pl as well as

27:49

the I mentioned you don't produce

27:51

young cricketers. be after fine cricketers,

27:53

you scouting system or you know,

27:56

Boomers Just but Boomers. The classic

27:58

example of John Right. Seen him

28:00

play in a tournament you know his plane

28:02

and are met a bad wherever I look

28:05

at where Boomer is now. Because.

28:07

Of the Ip out, it's not just

28:09

Mumbai. notice Mumbai, just one their forty

28:11

second Randy trophy. But the spread of

28:14

the game is all over India. You

28:16

got so many players playing from different

28:18

parts, your scouting system becomes even more

28:21

important that you are finding young talent.

28:23

Surely. Completely. Run as mint

28:25

if it's any. A good was the numbers

28:27

are documented on. The

28:30

Internet and whatever of that. The others as.

28:32

And. As the dollars that we spend on the

28:35

fares been. if I look down in L A

28:37

name with the spending maybe. Thirteen Twelve

28:39

to thirteen million dollars on plans for

28:41

spending close to. Four. Or

28:43

five million dollars on are

28:46

sealed support analytics counting. Cricket

28:48

infrastructure. Now if you think about

28:50

that in the context of when

28:52

he played the game and what

28:55

was being spends on that supports

28:57

him for structure they for extraordinary

28:59

sums that a leading I think

29:01

to innovation grace. New. Players

29:03

coming, it's the Ip I'm true. Drill

29:05

had never played first class cricket before.

29:07

He made his debut. For. Us

29:09

we got something like. Sixteen.

29:12

Players. Who made their I pl there

29:15

be for else who got on. So then

29:17

represent first class. That. That they

29:19

randy sides or represent India. So

29:21

I like to think the Op

29:23

Pls also made massive contributions back

29:25

into you know, the game that

29:27

existed before. How do

29:30

you see things over the next year's

29:32

with thoughts about that that? the rapid

29:34

growth that. Know as a

29:36

starter that as as suddenly you know

29:38

taken off? Do you see that level

29:40

of vet of growth continuing over the

29:42

next? He is or is inevitable that

29:45

things will flatten off a little bit.

29:48

Again, it's finishing questions I didn't even

29:50

divorce. The grace of the I feel.

29:53

At one level from the growth of

29:55

India. And then he know

29:57

sister a business podcast we'd be talk.

30:00

In about you know this being India's

30:02

next the next decade been India's most

30:04

of the sort of banking or pull

30:06

some these advisers that paid sort of

30:09

millions of to com to compensate on

30:11

these things would talk about. Oh

30:13

we'll talk about how in a post the elections that

30:15

it can happen right in the middle of the I

30:17

feel. In a receiving.

30:20

As I think most of us

30:22

expect when have a pretty stable

30:24

political outcome Following that, India's gonna

30:26

become such a massive economic powerhouse

30:29

in the world. And the Indian

30:31

diaspora, you know which? And Ass

30:33

and I apart. Ah

30:35

of becoming ever more influential powerful

30:37

and that's that's a great source

30:39

of driver of the of of

30:41

of the grace of the I

30:43

feel And that's so so I

30:45

sighed. That might my i guess

30:48

miles you question as is I

30:50

think. The Ip

30:52

have to scan get bigger and bigger and and

30:54

actually. It. Share within the game,

30:57

Is also going to grow. But

30:59

didn't. I think

31:01

the biggest impact of the Ip I

31:03

will be how it continues to grow

31:06

the game worldwide. Just got any headwinds

31:08

at all? I mean ass touched on

31:10

seventy four games pen sides. Now can

31:12

an Indian audience and this is a

31:14

stupid question? I checked myself as I

31:16

can an Indian audience ever have too

31:18

much cricket oil? Just the love of

31:21

cricket just more More more we've just

31:23

seen and I'll come on to it's

31:25

we've just seen what's happened in the

31:27

W P L On the love of

31:29

all, C B can. They ever have

31:31

too much cricket in India? Yeah, I'd

31:34

say our genetics a silly question. It's all

31:36

because you know? Actually, last year there was

31:39

a. Big. Consumer. A

31:41

bit of consumer research that was dumb

31:43

which across sort of. Sports.

31:46

Preferences: Different demographics within India and

31:48

for the first time is the

31:50

under tens in a the number

31:52

one sport was identified as socket

31:55

so sweaty. Sit in it you

31:57

can never you can never be

31:59

complete. About the future and you

32:01

know we've got to continuing engage in the

32:04

next generation again. All three of us have

32:06

kids with Our attention spans are getting shorter

32:08

and so shorter that one of the headwinds

32:10

is the ideal. Games are getting too long.

32:13

Of a in and he never thought we'd ever say

32:15

that about he twenty game but they are getting too

32:17

long the going on. Too late into

32:19

the evening. And that's

32:21

something that he also d C B

32:23

tried to dress with the hundred format.

32:25

That something I think we've got to

32:27

be right cognizance of. The reality is

32:29

most kids now consume the I Peel.

32:32

In a completely different way. To.

32:34

The way Interview and I watch cricket

32:36

or or or or the first generation

32:38

of I feel fans watch cricket so.

32:41

How we support that. A T T

32:43

Growth said the Digital Grace. How

32:46

we package the content that you guys are

32:48

part of producing and distribute that. There's an

32:50

awful lot of stuff that we've got to

32:52

keep innovating. And and that's the theory that

32:55

the part of The Well that I spend

32:57

a lot of time. Watching.

33:00

Said it's it's it's it's to can

33:02

glean earnings from there is American and

33:04

and you look at how you know

33:06

what the Us does with his passing.

33:09

it broadcasts you to broadcast experience you

33:11

to how they turned the draft into

33:13

this incredible sort of multi media showcase.

33:15

The still so much for us to

33:18

do that in terms of how we

33:20

innovate and and present the game if

33:22

we're going to keep engaging young fans.

33:24

And for me that seats ahead when

33:27

the after. Yeah. Sticky because if

33:29

if you engage fans everything else takes

33:31

herself. Or you're pretty

33:33

shrewd operator. You'd say there is a heck

33:35

of a lot of growth for women School

33:38

I'm women's cricket having having just same what's

33:40

happened in the Wp out and the crowds

33:42

I've had in in the reaction to Aussie

33:44

be winning it is their plans for are

33:46

just arm women side. Is that A Roger

33:48

Stone decision or is A B C C

33:50

I decision? How does that work It's A

33:52

it's a bit of both so is a

33:54

wee bit we did bit sore as you

33:56

know that that that the franchise option was

33:59

last year. That for team. Reduced.

34:01

Some wasn't one of the chosen location. Sassy we

34:03

paid for team up in the northeast where we

34:05

play to of I'm kind of we would love

34:07

to have a women's team we when we we

34:10

hosted. The. The first ever.

34:12

So. Many. Kind. Of copycat

34:14

version of women's I feel that in

34:16

two thousand and thirteen in a we've

34:18

we've got a women's team in Barbados

34:21

rebuilt with his team in power and

34:23

and and your overall point. By.

34:25

The way about the growth in women's

34:27

cricket is just extraordinary. I was shocked

34:29

by the images of what went on

34:31

in Bangalore after they one that will

34:33

seem so we destiny with deftly wanted

34:36

same but the Btc I has to

34:38

expand the league decide that in a

34:40

Redstone is gonna be a place where

34:42

team complain and then we to participate

34:44

but I'd love to have it's a

34:46

month and I credit credit English Cricket

34:48

with some with some of that sort

34:50

of turbocharging of the women's game. I

34:53

think the hundred. And will the

34:55

hundred did for the women's game. Was. Was

34:57

was was fabulous! And

34:59

this a ton of crisis which is really exciting.

35:03

And. Before I come on to this

35:05

that the generals picture of the world

35:07

and because what you've suggested or about

35:09

the I fell on the getting bigger

35:11

and bigger results are gonna have some

35:13

impact that elsewhere. But just before we

35:15

gone so that of your cereal investor

35:17

has this investment been your best one.

35:20

That. Is Stephanie been right up there

35:22

And. Did. For this has

35:25

been at best a minute not trying

35:27

to evade the question of beside it

35:29

depends what metric in a money multiple

35:31

caching cash house. But is Stephanie been

35:34

Sunny, one of us all? Two or

35:36

three You mention that that you've you've

35:38

also invested into Barbados and pal like

35:40

many of the franchise is now you're

35:43

You're looking at other competitions, other teams

35:45

are around the world. Going

35:47

back to early of point about you know the

35:49

ip hell's gonna get bigger and done and eating

35:52

of. Chunks. Of the game.

35:54

Where was I mean? That's gonna put present

35:56

challenges for the rest of the glam. How

35:58

how do you see it? Evolving. Yeah.

36:02

I think words of really important he sees

36:05

it. I mean, even in that question when

36:07

he took over, eating up chunks of the

36:09

game, right? There's an implicit anxiety there's an

36:11

employer and I shall not trying to pick

36:14

a fight because we've had many over the

36:16

years. But but, but there is this. There.

36:19

Is this sort of sense? The. You.

36:21

Know the I peel growing. Taking

36:24

over leagues is is like a bad thing

36:26

right? And the you know I I I

36:29

heard someone say to me the other day.

36:31

you know that. One. Of

36:33

the governing bodies is very worried about whether

36:35

Rule the French up when the book, when

36:37

they option the franchise is whether they're all

36:39

gonna be ip alone at his twitch. My

36:41

response was. The. Ones that matter,

36:43

sweet, all that matches your own

36:46

he objective function I think As

36:48

someone that loves the game, Should.

36:50

Be how do we made the game Begin. By. We

36:52

make the game bigger. We all

36:54

benefit players benefit. Science.

36:59

More investment goes into the infrastructure that

37:01

supports fans. The fan experience gets better.

37:03

The best players get paid more people

37:05

make choices to play cricket rather than

37:08

other sports parts of the world that

37:10

never got cricket. Get Cricket! So all

37:12

we should be thinking about is making

37:14

the game begins and. I

37:16

do think the I feel. I'm

37:19

franchises are going to continue.

37:21

To. Expand their international reached. I

37:24

think the small sullies will

37:26

welcome that. I think South Africa

37:28

is a really interesting case

37:30

study. Is A

37:32

when you look at it, observes six

37:34

and when in the South Africa because

37:36

the franchise's a quote. Ip

37:39

alone does make zero difference.

37:42

See. How engaged. The.

37:44

Local fans of go behind the scenes

37:46

effects some of that Paul Royals fan

37:48

base. Is. Is more passionate

37:50

about the pink and more passionate

37:52

about the Royals than the fan

37:55

base with hadn't reduced obviously. Eating.

37:58

Chunks of the game is a way

38:00

nevada i like to think about it

38:03

is as the the i feel spreading

38:05

it's wings is gonna help grow to

38:07

get. It is obviously

38:09

had a massive impact on said abrogates testing

38:11

when the taking a third third eleven to

38:13

New Zealand by the way. but they all

38:15

laughed. Brings is very nicely on to England.

38:18

and especially during the in a permanent

38:20

as I do think that's really interesting

38:22

point that that that South Africa one

38:24

which is. Is. That is

38:26

that problem that that happened agenda, which

38:28

is which is clearly a problem for

38:30

either. They took a. Second, Level

38:33

Third: Love. Is that because

38:35

of the. I pl coming to S a

38:37

T twenty of is that because of

38:39

Graeme Smith. Having. The courage to

38:41

to go out and create new tournament.

38:44

Or. Is it because you got

38:46

a complete list of and linemen

38:48

and souls? Between. The.

38:51

A lot of between the governing body. And.

38:53

Between the tournament organizers to ensure that

38:56

class doesn't happen again you and I

38:58

had this conversation with governing bodies Him

39:00

in my opinion have lots of things

39:03

to do and in action certain cases.

39:05

Has. Too many things to do, but

39:07

if we just feel good of scheduling.

39:10

We. Could make lost so much better for the

39:12

players. And. So much better for the

39:15

fans. If. If if he said

39:17

he ah cool skill set is gonna be

39:19

said, you need avoid all this nonsense. But.

39:22

The problem with that is that

39:24

the growth of franchise cricket has

39:26

been so exponential. You. Know

39:28

or said before you came on, use

39:31

the one ply. Apply here than the

39:33

next day's planes for a completely different

39:35

side of the other side. Well that

39:37

makes scheduling really tricky and it's something

39:39

that and that means that has to

39:41

be consequences for any action is a

39:43

the reaction and a consequence. Which means

39:45

test cricket has been pushed to the

39:47

margins. Domestic cricket has been pushed to

39:49

the margins. It becomes very difficult and

39:52

it's something that's often labeled and thrown

39:54

at people like you manage. Is that

39:56

What's the saying that you. You.

39:58

Know. You. The

40:00

price of everything. But

40:02

don't understand the value of it. Now.

40:04

The value and the emotion of

40:07

test match cricket. The value and

40:09

the emotion of county cricket for

40:11

some. It's. Not about the

40:13

money, it's about sport and what we're

40:15

missing out on. I'm losing our home

40:18

and what's been dwindling away at. What

40:20

would you say to those people? Or

40:23

for the first test Cricket as we both know

40:25

is actually my. For. Said former

40:27

of the game is enough but she

40:29

to block the way around the world

40:31

for many many as Davis. The

40:34

you won't find a bigger. A

40:37

big proponent the test cricket and and

40:39

someone keen to see survive. But.

40:41

Unfortunately, Numbers

40:44

don't lie. Economics will

40:46

always prevail. And. I

40:49

come back to engaged fans. The reason.

40:51

The. Written Test Cricket Sudden. Had

40:54

a bit of a renaissance in the last couple of

40:56

years is because without a brand of test cricket, That's.

40:58

Been played. Actually, lead

41:00

as much by England does anyone

41:03

there's really engaged fans again and

41:05

and. Combats. All I

41:07

care about is that the game gets

41:09

bigger and the game survive to the

41:12

next fifty years. And you can't go

41:14

against the tide of what fans want

41:16

to watch. And yes, there are people

41:19

like the three of us who are

41:21

completely engaged by the test cricket. There

41:23

are countries like England, Australia, India who

41:26

have the resources to support and subsidize

41:28

the growth of a test game, but

41:30

the test game like to or not

41:33

has to continue to evolve. if it's

41:35

going to survive, And own a piece

41:37

in the schedule and and it. We talked

41:39

about lots of things over the years, but

41:42

you know when seventy four percent of all

41:44

test matches of sitting finishing with him for

41:46

gate four days? In a youth you can

41:48

make a big difference. The settling challenge by

41:50

asking the question about whether or not test

41:53

cricket should be played in four days. So

41:55

I think for every problem there's a solution.

41:57

I think test cricket. Has.

42:00

Talked about many many a time has a

42:02

massive role to play him go to preserve.

42:04

I don't know if all the countries the

42:06

play test cricket. And

42:08

and and you can afford. To.

42:10

Prioritize: Test cricket is a dominant format. The certainly

42:13

the big Four five can I'd I'd pick you

42:15

up on on one aspect to that before we

42:17

just. Push. On to the question

42:19

I wanted to get to about England,

42:21

them and private investment. Talk about market

42:24

forces always went out which is absolutely

42:26

the case, but it's not always at

42:28

a kind of what I would call

42:31

a fair market in the sense that

42:33

you know lots of decisions that administrators

42:35

make a clearly pushing people towards one

42:37

for my over another. You know in

42:40

England it more than one competition is

42:42

given that the school holidays a blocker

42:44

in August, cheaper tickets, all the kind

42:46

of things that to. Create the

42:49

preconditions for success as know

42:51

necessarily at a kind of.

42:53

A free and fair market. but let let's

42:55

turn our attention. Suing went to this. Gonna

42:57

be the story. I think it over the

43:00

next year or two. As. The

43:02

Cb grapple. With. Want

43:04

to? do? With. The hundred

43:06

in particular but also this that that

43:08

that you know private investment or private

43:11

equity that is clearly gonna come into

43:13

the game is just a matter of

43:15

how it will come in, when he

43:17

will come in what form it will

43:19

come in. And first of all it

43:21

is an obvious question but as as

43:23

a serial investors somebody believes absolutely and

43:26

private enterprise. You. Presumably

43:28

believe that the Cb should give

43:30

the green light. To. Private

43:32

investment in private equity into the English

43:34

game. At that that

43:37

just me. But but it'd. Be

43:39

clean. It's had private investment. For.

43:42

Tens. And hundreds of years ride. This is

43:44

is is the nature of that private investment. The.

43:47

The private investments in club cricket has

43:49

been the guy that pays for the

43:51

sponsorship to allow the club to go

43:53

round. The prime investment in domestic cricket

43:55

is. Sky. Sports. Funding.

43:58

The time to last seven or eight years. So

44:00

subprime investment has always been needed.

44:02

It's the nature that private investment,

44:04

I think. Suffering. Learned to

44:06

seize the opportunity than it has with the

44:09

growth of the women's group game. With the

44:11

way the hundreds engage young people, the game

44:13

need serious marketing dollars to be invested. And

44:15

yeah, think private investments as a good place

44:17

to go look for that. And.

44:19

If you are in charge of the hundred, C

44:22

C B rang your onset manage. You've done a

44:24

pretty good job. Roger Sun Rose You're a good

44:26

business mind you. love the game of cricket. Fewer

44:28

in charge of the hundred. what would you do

44:30

with it? I

44:33

think a few things I think I

44:35

would for him private investment I think

44:37

I would. Really? Think about

44:40

how we can embrace the i feel. As

44:42

opposed to. Perhaps. Excites.

44:44

I'm trying to compete with the i

44:46

feel of a can of I would

44:48

get. The sense of reality is there

44:50

are so many. Economic.

44:53

Advantages. to having i

44:55

feel franchises involved in a

44:57

domestic tournament they they said

44:59

about way any sense of

45:02

losing control as as as

45:04

have fat on the third

45:06

us as I set some

45:08

pretty strict nonfinancial criteria. For.

45:11

Who. The. Owners and the custodians.

45:14

Of those franchises can be. Because.

45:17

His faith. As you said of medications, it. It

45:20

is a game. In. It's not just purely

45:22

that the economic side of thing, so I would

45:24

I be quite thought about that. my thing, And.

45:27

As I look a franchise evolution in across

45:30

the world. That. Hasn't always been the

45:32

case. and and and and that's Combat Device.

45:34

You're one of the topics that isn't. Talked.

45:37

About enough actually in my view, too

45:39

fat, loss of threats and headwinds. But

45:41

you know as more owners as more

45:43

corporations as more individuals come into the

45:46

game. Know. That that

45:48

existential threat of. Sexing.

45:50

Gambling. The

45:53

are lots of these minor leagues

45:55

exist purely on the back of.

45:57

The. Revenues they generate for the gaming companies.

46:00

I. Can you got to be quite. Worried about that

46:03

if you are in if you're if

46:05

you're a custodian our governor of the

46:07

game So I think the some real

46:09

issues to think about Less I would

46:11

say I'd have a team in the

46:13

southwest a spend too much time down

46:15

there. that ending the southwest is properly

46:17

at properly represented and and I get

46:19

on with it You know and I

46:22

would either I would. I would get

46:24

this capital in quickly because the real

46:26

competition. Is. Not the

46:28

I pl. The real competition is what's

46:30

happening in the U S. What's happening.

46:32

The cannabinoids. Your points. Since. They

46:34

minutes ago the said was getting ever

46:37

more compressed. we should has if not

46:39

the second biggest short form league, certainly

46:41

the second or third big short form

46:43

league in this country. And with each

46:46

element that. One. Of the key question

46:48

is whether to sell us a kind of tournament as a

46:50

whole lot or the fill the themes that that a if

46:52

easy be had an offer from bridge point of. A

46:55

year Eight months ago. That.

46:58

Was pretty well felt about. and did you

47:00

have a view while of which way to

47:02

go on that? I mean obviously there have.

47:04

there are many how many models around the

47:06

world on the hybrid models models that Ip

47:08

Alex Soul teams will take control of of

47:10

the middle. and you know there's lots of

47:12

hybrid. A just just one other point to

47:14

Nasa's previous question. he the other thing I

47:17

get really focus on. If I were

47:19

in charge of the hundred, it's hard to get the

47:21

very best players in the world play. I'm.

47:23

Because at the end of the day the

47:25

quality of cricket try to the fan engagement

47:27

and we have a good tournament Baby talk

47:30

to the players who play in the hundred

47:32

vs. As. A T twenty versus

47:34

I pl. This. Is you

47:36

must have ever take out in a

47:38

side soft of of the importance of

47:40

having the very very best players make

47:42

the I feel is still have a

47:45

big big step up from any of

47:47

those domestic leagues. And

47:49

and and the hundred shouldn't say that Gap

47:51

shouldn't be as big as it is. A

47:54

knack comes back to again. They.

47:56

Have to pay what you need to pay

47:58

to get those players. Would. Why? That

48:00

private investment is important and. But.

48:03

Sabotage your question as a minute. Look, you

48:05

know I've got very clear view on this

48:07

which is I think French. I think private

48:10

investment into franchises is fine. Pepsi.

48:12

To sign was given of called. I'm

48:14

actually not just a believer in unfettered

48:16

capitalism. I'm a believer in regulated capitalism.

48:18

I think you do need. Strong.

48:21

Regulators and governors and governing

48:24

bodies and giving up too

48:26

much control. Giving. Up

48:28

Control around. That. The governments of

48:30

the game. You. Know is quite so risky

48:32

thing. To. Do So.

48:35

In a years ago when we when we for the book together

48:37

we already plant which is. Sally

48:39

equity in the franchise's grow the tournament.

48:41

Bring private capital lab at make sure

48:44

you've got a really strong. Governing.

48:46

Body and if at some point you want to dilute

48:48

that in the future you can. But the pieces yeah

48:50

most I think is a good one which is. You

48:53

know, we don't have unfettered capitalism within

48:56

the I'd be out the outdoor. Very,

48:58

very powerful counterparty. Who's the pieces? he?

49:00

I. Small. Stuff for important stuff.

49:02

What would it would the former have to

49:04

change? Our main would rock star Mumbai if

49:06

they came over and took over London or

49:08

whatever would they wanted One hundred bowl tournament

49:10

or I want ya to knowledge and I'll

49:12

bet it by Mumbai Indians. Don't worry about

49:15

our beloved and I'll manage. I'm in L

49:17

A man of a sudden. They

49:22

looked apart from Apart from Changing.

49:25

The. Name of the tournament from the hundred

49:27

and English two hundred in Hindi. Attending

49:29

anything, On

49:31

account A know I think

49:33

I think the hundred. Again,

49:35

I wasn't a proponent or

49:37

a sign of. Another

49:40

former into again that in my view

49:42

already has. He. Never proliferation

49:44

of formats. I.

49:48

Know what problem. He. Had so hours

49:50

and and co were trying to solve which was

49:52

making sure the game was again too long. I

49:54

think there are other ways to do that. I

49:56

think having made the investment in one hundred you

49:58

might as well stick with hundred and I. When

50:00

he to can we talk to players

50:02

and coaches, the subtleties and the differences

50:04

between. Preparing. For t twenty game

50:06

and hundred get them articles and know I probably would

50:08

change the format. And it's

50:10

been fascinating and bless just her.

50:13

Are back to the Ip! Ah

50:15

your first game is Sunday I

50:17

think against. Lot. Now, presumably

50:19

you'll be heading out. Shortly

50:22

after, after that, I'm at

50:24

your ground. Still a relatively

50:26

small. Size.

50:29

I say I think twenty five thousand it is the

50:31

limit as net it for for your ground. That's

50:33

about as polite as you've ever been

50:36

as a citizen of we have probably

50:38

one of the west grounds and she's

50:40

keeping with a low cost image. At

50:43

And yeah it is. It's a it's a small

50:45

granted by the time you've given you know the.

50:48

The. Associations and the local governments. yeah they're

50:51

allocation of A as as tickets is

50:53

actually it's It's more like sort of

50:55

fifteen thousand fans pets but it's a

50:57

was a package deal. Fell at out

50:59

every game willing. Yeah. I

51:01

mean the afternoon games can be a bit tricky and

51:03

actually as it happens, our first game is an afternoon

51:05

game. And that's again.

51:08

So. The Sly: The Conceptual: Because the

51:10

register on in April is incredibly

51:12

hot and it's and until the

51:14

ground, and frankly, is, it's not

51:16

a particularly good fun experience. In

51:19

over forty forty degrees heat. In

51:22

in in open stands set off the new

51:24

but but I've actually questions getting at is

51:26

Sandy for the for the evening games in

51:28

and we have amassed a sellout. We now

51:31

play to get home games up in the

51:33

northeast and do a happy which is a

51:35

much bigger much more modern stadium. Sort.

51:37

Of place at a forty five

51:39

thousand and again they'll be absolute

51:41

so often. Kept. Out

51:43

of will be sellouts for all their

51:46

games and seventy thousand say when I

51:48

do think actually one of the things

51:50

franchises and the Bcc I working together

51:52

of got that of responsibility to start

51:54

investing. It is improving the fan experience

51:56

in the stadium but yet it is

51:58

that it's gonna be. Spotted a

52:00

slight nuance this year because of a lot

52:02

of people watching. This if be pretty frustrated

52:05

at the lack of visibility on the schedule.

52:08

Than the nuance the much. the only issue I

52:10

first put up of that to thing out for

52:12

the first two or three weeks. family based in

52:14

the exactly say present we have to play all

52:17

of our games and much some. Your

52:19

alma home games that by April the twentieth

52:21

which makes it which makes it quite difficult

52:24

for the organizers. So. In

52:26

previous election years we've ended up getting to

52:28

the Middle East Will get South Africa a

52:30

least issue with playing in India in front

52:32

of Indian sense. I. Always

52:35

think. Fondly in a

52:37

way of your ground law because it was

52:39

that and Ninety Three England's first oh the

52:41

I that was played in Jaipur the with

52:43

the very first game. In India

52:45

played on satellite television really which was

52:48

the start of this great. Transformation.

52:51

And and revolution of of cricket and

52:53

and enduring in many ways. In terms

52:55

of the you know that it's television

52:58

impacts on satellite television and pats and

53:00

and clearly from where things were to

53:02

where they are now it's on recognize

53:04

when and and all kinds of ways

53:06

so give us a prediction way gonna

53:09

finish. I mean. I

53:11

feel we're obviously you from what we offer

53:13

though, and you'll always know that holding up

53:15

the trophy in the end while he's the

53:17

best oh no, we've heard from this point

53:19

I'm asking the fast. Acting grandma's the

53:21

best coach and he's got the

53:23

best top three hundred or know

53:25

when and if only we can

53:27

Edginess to that seen in my

53:30

right in thinking that you you

53:32

gave sand you samson Nasa's phone

53:34

number to talk captaincy I get

53:36

her off our gabi and you

53:38

not come up with a better

53:40

a better alternative I said I

53:42

didn't see what was sad percent

53:44

you. Isn't. Set.

53:46

Of his biggest waste of sixty minutes of as. The

53:50

yeah your bag Madman Adams as

53:52

you can. One thing the fans

53:55

perpetuate appreciates because this season. And

53:57

I will answer questions this because the

54:00

see third year in a three cycle.

54:02

Even in the cycle. You'll.

54:05

Actually see statistically that the the

54:07

margins between the ten scenes. Are.

54:09

Really really find that the i feel

54:11

so that that's the brilliance of the

54:14

idea which uses builds on the simple

54:16

ethos of every team should be able

54:18

to win every game. That

54:21

one. That's particularly true in the third

54:23

year cycle. so this is gonna be

54:25

the toughest year to make predictions on

54:27

the cutting, we got pretty good side.

54:29

Ah, I think when you look back

54:32

at the end of the season, Injuries

54:34

will will play a role. Save.

54:37

As keeping you play as fit for

54:39

eight to nine weeks. Specially

54:41

sort of fast bowlers and how that plays

54:43

out the criticality of that. If we got

54:46

a bit of an Achilles the shit, you

54:48

know we're gonna get that fast bowling at

54:50

the back. As back to the innings are

54:52

you look laptop Sexes? It's as good as

54:55

any ones that you look at. Aspen is

54:57

there as good as any ones as as

54:59

England. Found that the kids mesh when this

55:01

this winter and so you know, look up,

55:04

be happy with some. With

55:06

playoffs and I'll be disappointed if we didn't make

55:08

the playoffs. but. That. Was true last year

55:10

against the final two years ago which is which

55:12

he didn't mention and I had to put. In

55:16

a last year felt like the real

55:18

disappointment and items as he was. We

55:20

finish fists missed the playoffs by a

55:23

sinker net runway and that the decision

55:25

rhapsody gutted so. Let's see

55:27

how we go and. In a

55:29

eventually it'll be nice to just not allowed to

55:31

keep reminding move any of the one one tournament

55:34

which by the way as one more than two

55:36

or three other things. Absolutely

55:38

answer was no longer than I feel game

55:40

to be. Ah, there's. A

55:44

high mile? Well

55:46

obviously hope. For. A

55:48

successful tournament and a successful one

55:50

for. For. Roger some thanks

55:52

for joining us it's been fascinating facts

55:55

and then thanks having having me on

55:57

the thanks a kind of all the

55:59

support. You guys and Sky

56:01

gets to the idea. which is off the great

56:03

because we talked a lot about the gate fans.

56:06

In India for as she wanted things as amazing as

56:08

she is How the I feel. Fandom.

56:11

Is grown outside of in Well

56:13

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56:15

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56:17

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56:19

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56:21

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