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Morning. The following episode

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includes tantric astrology, station

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Wagons, a go in folk song,

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the PBS Kids Show, Arthur, the

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scattering of ashes, backscratches,

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and coming to term with the father's passing.

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Sensitive listeners, please take

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care. This

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is Peter Kaplan, the legendary editor

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at the New York Observer. Editors were

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like movie directors, and they

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work with the writers. He had this old piece

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of advice that I think about a lot.

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When one of his writers was struggling with writer's

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block. Ke'd say, take out

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all your material and write a beginning,

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and then another and another,

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and keep going, and pretty

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soon you'll have this page full of beginnings.

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Even if that doesn't lead you where you want to go, you

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can step back and admire

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it and think, isn't

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that a beautiful thing? I've

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always loved that image. A bouquet full

1:12

of beginnings promises paths

1:15

to explore, and

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I wonder does

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it work the same for endings from

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Kaleidoscope and I Heeart podcast. I'm

1:30

Mongish Articular. This

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is Skyline Drive, chapter

2:13

one, car

2:16

Rides. This

2:27

is me on my last full day in India. I've

2:30

been in the car since four am and I couldn't

2:32

sleep the night before from sheer excitement.

2:36

In Chennai. Mark said, I wouldn't find

2:38

the resolution I needed in astrology. I

2:41

wasn't going to soothe my heart ache with a reading

2:43

or find direction and prophecies.

2:46

The thing is, I was still

2:48

clinging desperately to this idea of making

2:50

a joyous astrology show and

2:52

ignoring my emotions. He said

2:54

I needed something else. He said, you need to

2:56

go to that home. And I

2:58

knew what he meant. Somewhere

3:03

along our trip I had told him about Gin House,

3:05

an old family home tucked away in Hobley,

3:08

a town in the southern state of Carnatica.

3:11

As a kid, I spent so many summers

3:13

there, playing badminton on the lawn,

3:15

reading on the verandah, dipping my toes

3:17

in the well out back, and just soaking

3:20

in all this love and attention that my

3:22

relatives there gave me. Until

3:24

I was in my teens, I thought gin House got

3:27

the name because of all the warmth and entertaining

3:29

and celebrating that took place there.

3:31

But the gin actually referred to the cotton gins

3:34

and working mills in the back. But

3:37

this house and the grounds wasn't

3:39

just a wondrous place for me to spend my summer days

3:41

running around and exploring. The

3:44

house was a life raft for both

3:46

my grandfather and my father

3:49

when each of them was at sea. When

3:51

my grandfather lost his businesses in his old

3:53

age, this is where he picked himself up and

3:56

focused on his writing. When

3:58

my father had failed out of college just fifteen,

4:01

this is where his aunt pleaded for him to be sent

4:03

to be given one more chance. So

4:06

he came, and he flourished,

4:09

and it was just as magical and transformative

4:11

for him. It's where he stood third

4:13

in all university exam and learned

4:16

woodworking, and swam in the giant

4:18

water tank out back, and embraced

4:20

his cousins like siblings. And

4:23

it's where, through the love of his aunt,

4:25

he finally learned firsthand what it was like

4:27

to have a mother. For

4:32

months now, I've felt incomplete

4:35

in the absence of my father. I don't really

4:37

have a sense of who I'm supposed to be. I've

4:40

kept moving, trying to tell myself I was

4:42

okay putting my energy into this

4:44

startup for this show. I

4:47

hadn't actually cried, And as

4:49

my wife Lizzie has told me, I've

4:52

been distant. Now

4:54

that I haven't like to complained

4:57

about me, I'm

4:59

happy to complain about you. I'm like or

5:01

off. So I've

5:04

mentioned over and over in the show that

5:06

I'm not entirely present, and I know

5:09

I definitely feel that, But can you talk

5:11

a little bit about your perspective on that.

5:14

I mean, I have said to you

5:17

that I think that this show

5:19

and working on this has been a

5:23

wonderful gift, because if

5:25

you aren't given something like that, then

5:28

you are the one who puts things away. It's

5:31

not good for a person. It's

5:33

not good for you, it's not good for any person. So

5:35

I'm glad that you're not doing that. But

5:38

also you basically have like a job

5:40

on a job at a time when

5:42

the kids are also reading. It's been a

5:44

hard time to have you be

5:47

kind of constantly either literally

5:49

not there or there, but you know,

5:51

half there, You're like half in and half out. I keep

5:53

thinking about that Dmitry Martin quote

5:57

where he said that I guess

5:59

he lost both his parents a pretty quick succession,

6:01

or lost one of his parents, yeah,

6:04

a mom in college or something, And he

6:06

wrote a line that saw losing

6:09

a parent is the first hardest thing. Yeah,

6:12

your dad is who you are and

6:15

how you imagine your future, which I think

6:17

has been a lot of this experience views like

6:19

okay, well kind of person

6:22

am I going to be? And what's my life trajectory?

6:25

I think that like grief is gigantic,

6:28

it's like swimming in an ocean and like

6:30

finding shallow parts where you can

6:32

kind of stand for a bit and then you

6:35

know the Marianne French or you

6:37

won't be for very long, but

6:40

it's just like you keep swimming and

6:43

hopefully who over time you find

6:46

warmer and shallower waters. But using

6:49

the same metaphor, I guess you've become a stronger

6:52

swimmer through this, and we can't

6:54

be a part of that, you know. So yeah, maybe

6:56

you've been less present, but maybe

6:58

that's just natural, you know.

7:00

Maybe the best thing we could do is kind of try to

7:03

take care of ourselves for

7:05

the meantime and be there when you come

7:07

back. And it's not that I think

7:09

visiting gin House will solve that feeling for

7:11

me exactly, but I wonder

7:14

if you could put me on firm or footing, that

7:17

is, if we ever make it there. This

7:19

drive feels endless, which

7:23

was always my dad's favorite kind. We

7:26

racked up over three hundred and fifty thousand miles

7:28

in our Volvo station Wagon, the one my family

7:31

got, one of us four driving across

7:33

Nova, Scotia and West Virginia, the

7:35

Outer Banks where that one time we drove

7:37

to Quebec City because our dog, Chap,

7:40

who was ill with a thyroid disease, needed

7:42

to drink holy water from Saint Anne

7:44

de Beaucray, a cathedral

7:46

there. We'd adopted our dog

7:48

from a Catholic family, and somehow my mom

7:50

got the idea that we need to respect my dog's

7:53

religious background, so we

7:55

did anyway. We spent

7:57

those hours of miles singing and arguing,

8:00

playing word games. We pulled over to

8:02

sample peaches and found streams

8:04

to cool our heels, and we asked

8:06

for directions, lots

8:08

of directions. And

8:11

after hours of driving, when

8:13

the sky turned dark and our stomachs

8:15

were full, the car got

8:17

quiet. My mom and

8:19

sister would fall asleep, my dad kept pushing

8:22

ahead, and me I'd

8:25

stare out the window. We

8:27

moved across highways and country roads,

8:29

often until one or two in the morning. Sometimes

8:32

I tried to find the rhythm of the tower lights,

8:35

guessing when the next beam would shine down

8:37

on the car. Often I'd

8:39

look higher, wishing on the first

8:41

star I spotted, or tracing my fingers

8:43

across constellations both

8:46

real and imagine. And

8:49

eventually I'd given to sleep,

8:52

knowing that in this car, under

8:55

this magnificent sky, I

8:58

could close my eyes, feeling safe,

9:01

loved, always

9:03

moving forward. And

9:06

now as I stare out

9:08

the window at rural Connatica, I

9:11

finally finally let

9:13

tears stream down my face and

9:17

I let go of everything I've been holding.

9:19

In

9:33

chapter two, White

9:36

Magic, this

9:39

is doctor vej Se dinaray Am, a

9:43

tent trick astrologer from the age

9:45

of five, the holy thing I

9:47

know about life.

9:51

For all of the astrologers we've met or hunted

9:53

four in China, I there were so many

9:55

disappointments except for this

9:58

one. Around town. Doctor

10:00

j has a reputation as a quote five

10:02

star astrologer, and he agreed to meet

10:04

with us after his TV appearance that morning.

10:07

To tell you the truth, I did not have high

10:09

hopes the words five star TV

10:12

astrologer, I mean I pictured

10:14

an astro televangelist. And as

10:16

we waited in his sitting room, sweating from

10:19

the Chennai heat, all I was thinking about was

10:21

how many days we'd wasted and what

10:23

were we really going to learn here? But

10:26

when he welcomed us into his humble office with

10:29

just enough space for desk and some chairs,

10:32

it just felt different. Imbermal

10:36

using to live a normal life. He's

10:39

right, very little about doctor Vja's

10:41

story is normal. Before

10:44

him, his parents had six daughters. My

10:47

great grandfather told my mother

10:49

or my father stating that seventh

10:52

baby will be a son, and

10:55

by whip him

10:57

khali, the jeans will be changed

10:59

from a fee. Through

11:01

prayers and offerings, they supposedly

11:03

changed the sex of their child, but

11:06

that meant he'd also have to carry the burden

11:08

of sustaining the family business. Jay

11:11

practices tantric astrology and astrology

11:13

he refers to as white magic.

11:16

It's about using esoteric knowledge to reduce

11:18

people's pain and relieve them of their

11:20

negative karmic pressures. It

11:23

can mean reversing curses, preventing infidelities,

11:26

fighting witchcraft, and as he

11:28

tells me, there are fewer than one hundred

11:30

people in all of India, maybe

11:32

even half of that, who practice it. His

11:35

father and grandfather did this work too, and

11:37

every day he'd watch as they absorb

11:40

people's pain. So I see people

11:43

often coming to my great grandfather and my

11:45

father. They used to cry

11:47

scree. J did this for

11:50

eighteen years and then he

11:52

left. He couldn't take the emotional

11:55

toll. He hated that people would come to

11:57

him and ask him to use tantric astrology for

11:59

these evil reasons, to lure

12:01

across against their will, or to put

12:03

a curse on someone, things that

12:05

went against the ethics that his grandfather

12:07

and father practiced. So

12:09

he fled. He went to the UK.

12:12

He got a good job in fashion and marketing

12:14

and merchandising. But however

12:17

far he ran, he just

12:19

couldn't get away my great

12:21

grandfather, he called me, you might be

12:23

in London these days, but I will be dying

12:26

by September nine, two nine, and

12:28

you are supposed to be here to take care of your father,

12:31

and you cannot take your coma.

12:33

For him, it was an act of devotion,

12:36

seating his own dreams for his family,

12:39

because his love for his father and his grandfather

12:41

was that strong. But

12:44

before he could accept the mantle, his

12:46

father had one final test for him. You

12:49

know, I wish to explain about an incident

12:51

my great dad who taught me how

12:53

to live and how to be ethically right,

12:57

to have the good rapper,

12:59

good people the only question

13:01

he asked me. Then I looked that.

13:04

I shudder when I hear this. His

13:06

dad wanted Vijay to predict his time

13:08

of death. It feels cruel,

13:13

masochistic. I mean, there are things

13:15

you just don't want to know. And the idea

13:17

of being forced to tell your parents when they're

13:19

going to die, let alone being

13:21

forced to be accurate about it, I

13:24

can't fathom it. But

13:26

Vijay's dad was asking him to put his craft

13:28

over his emotion, to tell his brain

13:31

to eclipse his heart. And I

13:33

was shanton. I was just looking

13:35

at him like that. And he told

13:38

me, now I'm

13:41

asking you. You see a

13:44

Jay who'd already questioned whether this was

13:46

the right line of work for his life, for

13:49

his happiness, had to summon

13:51

all his courage and look his father

13:53

in the eye and tell him, Dad,

13:56

you will have a kist between

13:59

fulfill much twenty

14:02

one kill twenty first. It

14:05

was one of the hardest moments in Vijay's

14:07

life, but for his dad, it

14:10

was everything he wanted for his son.

14:13

Then my dad told me, you'll be a you

14:15

know, a worthful person, and you'll

14:18

do great, great things. But unfortunately

14:21

I lost my great dad, who is my group

14:23

and my mentor onto March

14:25

two on my lap. I'm

14:28

sure there are moments as an astrologer where you

14:30

just don't want to be right, and my

14:33

heart breaks for him, But

14:35

in some strange way, I also

14:38

envy him. Vijay knew

14:40

the exact moment his father would die. He

14:42

didn't have to watch his father writhing in pain,

14:45

wondering how long it would go on, or make

14:47

a decision about when to give him the morphine

14:50

to let him go. So

14:52

I asked him about the power of his craft, these

14:54

remedies he uses to help other people,

14:57

and if he could have healed his father or pos

15:00

we postpone that death. If that does

15:02

me return in their child, no

15:05

war, what sheep or no you

15:09

know, embodies can't save her life. His

15:12

glassy eyes betrayed the emotional distance

15:14

and astrologer is supposed to keep. But

15:17

as he talks, it occurs to me that I

15:19

too, am the bearer of a lineage, the

15:22

first son of a first son who was

15:24

also desperately prayed for. And

15:28

what were the responsibilities I ignored

15:30

and the duties I turned my back on that

15:33

led me to this room here.

15:44

Chapter three, Backscratch.

15:58

This is the main road to gin how, but you'll

16:00

never spot it unless you know where you're going. In

16:03

fact, it's been so many years now that seras

16:06

the wonderful driver I've hired, and I

16:08

have to pull over to ask for directions to

16:10

landmarks nearby. Finally

16:14

we find this little gate with a

16:16

watchman sitting, and then the long dirt

16:18

drive into pure greenery. To

16:21

me, Gin House has always felt like this secret

16:24

garden, and it doesn't take long

16:26

for the chaos of the business district to disappear

16:28

behind you. The house

16:31

probably isn't what you're expecting. It's

16:33

a mid century home, minimalist

16:35

elegance in red and white, with

16:38

a welcoming veranda and beautifully

16:40

kept lawns and gardens. On

16:43

one hand, the place is simple. It's just three

16:45

bedrooms and a kitchen, with the center

16:47

hall that works as both living and dining

16:50

room, but it's set in this

16:52

oasis. The veranda

16:54

looks out onto this beautiful lawn, perfect

16:57

fatigues and receptions, and Batman

17:00

the roof doubles his dance floor or a

17:03

launch pad for paper airplanes over

17:08

the next few hours, I'll wander the grounds.

17:11

The housekeeper, who's been instructed to make me lunch

17:13

all of my favorites will overfeed

17:15

me the same way my granddaunt would have insisted.

17:19

All lays on a couch and thumb through

17:21

books because there are so many

17:23

books here in every room, And

17:26

I'll sit on the veranda, just staring

17:28

and thinking. Decades

17:32

ago, i'd sit on this veranda in the early evenings

17:34

with my grandfather when he break

17:37

from his writing, and pour himself a small

17:39

peck of whiskey, and we trade

17:41

stories as we watched out into the monsoons.

17:44

This is where he told me to always carry a pen

17:46

with me, to make sure I could write down my ideas

17:49

at any moment. It's something

17:51

I still do. This is where I learned

17:53

about how much he loved my dad about

17:56

us. Sometimes he'd squeeze him too hard because

17:58

he couldn't express his love. And this

18:01

is where I first heard the story about

18:04

the backscratch. We

18:07

all still tell it. I tell it, and

18:09

this is how it starts. When

18:12

my dad was just a kid, just seven

18:15

or eight, my grandfather came in from

18:17

out of town and sat next to him

18:19

on a bed Shanta,

18:22

my sister tells it. The story goes about

18:24

Baja was traveling for work

18:26

a lot and back and forth to Goah, so I

18:28

don't think he was able to really be there that often.

18:31

And so one day he came

18:34

to visit Dad and they were

18:37

sitting on the edge of the bed and just talking.

18:39

Ruby, my kid, tells it, so when

18:42

also was about seven or

18:44

eight, he was lying in bed and

18:47

his dad just came in from out of town.

18:50

And he came and he sunnis in his bed

18:53

and said, my

18:55

dad, you know, and

18:58

I'm trying to be the best father and it's

19:01

hard going up with our mom, But is there anything

19:03

I can do for you? Is there anything that's

19:05

missing? Thought? And he thought,

19:08

and then he finally said, you

19:10

know, I've just fend When his back

19:13

itches, his mom comes and scratches

19:15

it for him, and heered

19:17

off and he starts scratching my dad's back

19:19

for longer than the little type

19:21

needed. But Joe was so heartbroken

19:24

to hear that. And then he's just thinking, my

19:27

sons growing up without a mother.

19:30

This is such a simple thing, this last

19:32

thing I can do free and just sat

19:34

and scratched his back. No.

19:44

Chapter four ashes

19:49

see it. It's February sixteen,

19:51

twenty twenty three. We're on

19:54

a boat on the Indian Ocean, not far from

19:56

Colba Beach in South Koa. It's

19:59

where my dad used to spend his weekends as a

20:01

kid. It's

20:05

my mom, my wife, the kids, and my

20:08

aunts, someone all here together,

20:11

and my dad. Of course. We've

20:14

got his ashes in a glorified shoe box

20:16

that's printed to look like a clip art

20:18

version of Heaven. I guess the

20:22

waves are mild this morning, and the water

20:24

is so blue. We

20:27

spot pods of dolphins frolicking

20:29

in the waters and racing alongside

20:32

us. Do

20:37

you see him? There's this flock of seabirds

20:39

flying in front. They stayed just ahead

20:42

of us, like they're pulling us away from the

20:44

sun kissed coast threaded with coconut

20:46

trees and into something even

20:49

more serene. We

20:51

don't talk. I look at my mom

20:53

and aunt tearing up. My son,

20:55

Henry is crying and he's in Lizzie's

20:58

arms. Meanwhile, Ruby

21:00

thinks this is a joy ride, arms up

21:02

in the air. I jew wouldn't want us

21:04

to be sad, as they put it, and Ruby's

21:07

right in a way. After

21:09

a few minutes of more intentional silence,

21:12

where we sit rock gently by

21:14

the waves and our feelings. My mom and

21:16

I climbed to the very back of the boat. She

21:19

asked me to sing a chant when she can't

21:21

muster one. My dad loved

21:25

Jay said a good nick

21:31

and and

21:34

we lean over the railing to say goodbye

21:36

one final time. Said I

21:44

still don't believe in astrology. But doctor

21:46

VJ, the tent trick astrologer i'd

21:49

visited, and I had told me I

21:51

would carry my grief for seven more months.

21:54

It would be seven more months before I'd finally

21:56

be myself again. You will

21:59

find up v took hold

22:01

of this. Are you a

22:03

lorny laying what you are? That

22:09

was August. It's the end

22:11

of February. Now, by

22:13

the time I'm back in the States, seven

22:16

months will have passed. Chapter

22:28

five, The first

22:30

hardest thing. This

22:36

is April twenty twenty two. Doctor

22:38

Kumar's prediction about my father falling ill had

22:40

come true, and I'd raced down to Atlanta

22:42

a few times to be with him. Pitt.

22:45

Now I'm saying bye to my dad as

22:47

I head back to New York. This

22:52

is him and his lazy boy with a

22:54

bowl of the status on his stomach and a

22:56

mystery paperback by his side were

23:00

both smiling. Because the doctor has a plan.

23:02

The KINGMO should give him three months. There's

23:05

a chance he'll have much longer. This

23:09

is me getting a call that very same night,

23:12

soon after my plane hit the tarmac at LaGuardia,

23:15

that my father had to be rushed to the emergency

23:17

room. This

23:21

is him, days later, still in the hospital,

23:23

telling my sister that I can't

23:26

make you happy and I can't

23:28

make sad. This

23:33

is him holding my mom's hand, telling

23:35

her over and over how beautiful she is, telling

23:38

her she's always been his only So.

23:46

This is me walking into the hospital to relieve

23:49

my mom. It's my turn to spend

23:51

the night with him, but my mom tells me

23:53

that the fight is over, that my only

23:55

mission is to bring him home so he can pass amongst

23:57

his loved ones. This

24:03

is me signing the forum for hospice, knowing

24:05

that when the morphine kicks in, it'll

24:08

knock him out. These

24:17

will be my last moments with him conscious.

24:19

Do you know who's waiting at home for you? You don't

24:21

know? Do you want to see Barkley?

24:24

This is me shaving him one last time. I'm

24:27

just going to shave a little bit on your face,

24:29

Okay, there, barber style.

24:33

I use a warm washcloth to soften the

24:35

subtle I gently lather

24:37

his face. I take my

24:39

time with each stroke. This

24:43

is me putting my cologne on him. Do

24:45

you remember that I used

24:47

to put after shave on me. Yeah.

24:51

He used to laugh and joke and tell stories

24:53

as I watched him shave as a kid. And then

24:55

he'd spray assent into the heel of his palms

24:58

and rub them into my cheek and tiny

25:00

circles, warning me of

25:02

how it might sting. This

25:05

is me playing a messages, an old

25:08

going song from his sister and nephew, a

25:10

message from my aunt's summer, so

25:15

much, so much, some

25:20

whispers of things I needed him to know, and hoping

25:23

he hears. You know, you know we love

25:25

you so much? Right, Yeah,

25:29

you know you're a wonderful dad. This

25:32

is me in the back of an Atlanta Everyone's

25:35

taking him home. This is

25:37

me staring out into traffic, collecting out

25:39

the back window, caressing his

25:41

hair, pushing it across his forehead,

25:44

cripping his hand repeatedly, desperately

25:47

trying to communicate my love with each squeeze,

25:50

not knowing what's getting through. This

25:55

is me tracing my fingertips gently

25:57

down his papery skin, kissing

26:00

his forehead, scratching his

26:02

back gently for way

26:04

too long because I still

26:06

can epilogue.

26:41

This is my friend Aj, all

26:44

types of interesting. Way back at

26:46

the beginning of the show, he told me curiosity

26:48

and gratitude for my two favorite

26:51

virtues, and I agree. I think

26:53

both lead to a richer life. There

26:56

was always so much to be curious about, so

26:58

much to be grateful for. But

27:01

as I try finally to end

27:03

this show, I keep thinking about

27:06

another drive. In

27:15

twenty seventeen, we'd just moved

27:17

to Atlanta so I could take a job in podcasting.

27:21

That Thanksgiving, we headed up nine five

27:23

to my cousin Shanta's, to be with my parents

27:26

and sister and cousins and dogs.

27:29

Everyone was just so happy, cooking

27:32

together, making gingerbread houses, drinking

27:34

cider, wandering through a farm,

27:36

the saw down the perfect Christmas tree.

27:39

And then when the weekend was over and it

27:42

was finally time to say goodbye and the

27:44

anxiety of a new work week had started to settle

27:47

in, Lizzie turned to me

27:49

and she said, why don't we

27:51

skip by nine? Why don't

27:53

we take the long way home? That

27:57

afternoon, we drove across Skyline Drive,

28:00

the famous Skyline Drive, the one

28:02

that stitches a path along the edge of the Blue

28:05

Ridge Mountains as you drive through the Shenandoah

28:07

National Park. At the time,

28:10

our kids were seven and four, and back

28:12

then when they used to ask how long

28:14

till we get there? Lizzie and I would relay

28:17

the time in episodes of the PBS

28:19

show Arthur, like

28:22

it's five Arthurs till we're home, which

28:24

meant two and a half hours. But

28:27

somehow, on this hundred mile parkway,

28:29

we didn't have to answer that question once. We

28:33

just marveled at all the red and yellow

28:36

painted across the treetops, and

28:38

the fog that rolled in and out across the

28:40

blue and purple mountaintops, and

28:42

the way the light played favorites with parts

28:44

of the valley below and somewhere

28:47

along the way. As the kids started to nod off

28:49

and Lizzie squeezed my hand, and

28:51

as we watched the sunset, I realized

28:54

who I became in that moment, in the

28:56

driver's seat, steering an endless

28:59

road, And I know who I can

29:01

be I don't have to waste time

29:03

endlessly obsessing about the future. I

29:05

can choose moments like this, the

29:08

ones that make my heart leap. I

29:11

can choose the long way home over

29:13

and over and never regret

29:16

it. And I can

29:18

fill the time I have left because I

29:20

understand how precious that time is

29:24

with a series of Skyline

29:26

Drives. I

29:29

am, it's all tree. Are

29:36

we pluck a wheelow muscars

29:44

are hiding, register

29:52

show you

29:58

silence, all all tree

30:05

with roots like a new bone.

30:13

Your wind is blowing and

30:20

overa go, and

30:28

now I see a storm cloud

30:32

up in the distance, A

30:35

terrible old man, A

30:39

beautiful show. So

30:43

take me down, easy, Take

30:47

me down easy, Let

30:50

me land softly back

30:54

in your arm, your

31:01

sac Oh man. I

31:04

cannot thank you enough for listening to the show.

31:06

Like all podcasts, our show grows

31:09

through word of mouth. So if you'd liked

31:11

Skyline Drive, tell a friend, post

31:13

about it on social media, or write as

31:15

a little review. We read them all

31:18

because we are obsessives and a few

31:20

of us are geminis, and also we

31:22

just like the feedback. Also, there's

31:24

been too much crying, so anna

31:27

give us a dope eat. Skyline

31:44

Drive is a production of Kaleidoscope and

31:47

iHeart Podcast. If you like the

31:49

show, you should know my incredible team carried

31:51

me across the finish line. So thank you so

31:53

much to Mary Philip Sandy, our supervising

31:56

producer, Mitra bunsha He, our producer,

31:59

Mark Lotto, my story editor, and

32:01

Anna Rubinovo, who produced and elevated

32:03

the sound of all of these shows along with

32:05

through chivalrou and soundboard.

32:08

I am truly indebted to all

32:10

of you. Everyone keeps asking me

32:12

about the theme song bought me AKA Spencer

32:15

Stevenson wrote the gorgeous score for

32:17

this season. Also, I'm so grateful to the

32:19

musicians whose music lifted me in

32:21

my very lowest moments before I started

32:23

writing, including him, Monshu Suri who

32:26

read the episode, Warning Mo and

32:28

Azidi Records, Peter Matthew Bauer

32:30

Rogin their Alap moment, Vinnie

32:33

Desai Lush Life Motor Sales,

32:35

and James Henry Junior, whose stunning,

32:38

stunning song closed out this episode.

32:40

Also my aunt Indu Gersape and

32:42

my cousin Annam Gersape for singing that

32:45

beautiful go In folk song. Thank

32:47

you to Simon and Arjun Buckshee, all

32:49

the participants, Gene Michelle Annie

32:52

George and our house as frologers, Doctor

32:54

Kumar and Janelle Belgrave. The

32:57

show is executive produce for iHeart

32:59

by Nicky Tour and Katrina Norville.

33:01

Thank you to my partners at Kaleidoscope, especially

33:04

Oswaylshan who encouraged me to

33:06

tell this story and gave me the room to tell

33:08

it as we co founded this business, but

33:11

also Kate Osbourne and cost Us Leno's.

33:13

Thank you to our investors and board

33:15

for backing this crazy project. Thank you

33:18

to Vagney Shory for managing the

33:20

social media for this show. On top

33:22

of everything else, special thanks to Ali,

33:24

Nathan Conall, Will and Bob

33:27

at iHeart. I want to give my family

33:29

some extra love, but especially Lizzie

33:32

and Henry and Ruby and also

33:34

Sara than Shampa and as

33:37

always a big big thank

33:39

you to my Ama and my dad, Lalita

33:42

and Omesh who I thank my lucky

33:45

stars for I'm

33:47

mungish together. Thank

33:49

you so so much for

33:51

listening. Sounds

33:55

Carol usually are sometimes

34:00

I'm times sometimes sometimes

34:04

imme he

34:06

sometimes sometimes sometimes

34:08

I'm times sometimes sometimes sometimes

34:11

sometimes times,

34:13

sometimes I'm sometimes i'mtimes, I'm sometimes

34:16

sometimes i'm sometimes I'm pass to fits Sometimes

34:18

I pass to fit. Sometimes I stay sober. Sometimes

34:20

it's pass to fit. Sometimes I'm pasting in, sometimes

34:23

I'm making it. Sometimes I got the ship, sometimes

34:25

I'm lacking it. Get low man, there'll

34:27

be too much danity. How to live life

34:30

for my life water way usiness, and how a live

34:32

man in my reality. Always I've

34:34

been using more labrity vaperty

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laberty