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on the culture get their stated era hate

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in a hurry i'm good i'm really really

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curious for us to talk about the movie that were

1:34

spoiling today which is our bodies bodies

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bodies is the first american

1:38

film from a dutch filmmaker named helene a

1:40

rain and it is i guess

1:42

i would roughly categorize it as kind of

1:44

an agatha christie style teens

1:47

in an isolated house slasher

1:49

movie is that a fair set up

1:51

for the genre of buddies bodies bodies i

1:53

think so more like a sort of jen

1:55

the murder mysteries who's

1:58

killing everyone in the house type of

2:00

5, write one of those things where you isolate

2:02

everybody away from civilization so

2:04

that you can put them against each and decide

2:06

who the bad guy before we get started

2:09

i always to do with spoilers, i just want to in

2:11

general, if you like them or not since this is not

2:13

a place to review, but to sort of pickup heart

2:15

story details and walk us through the

2:18

whole thing did this movie work for you i

2:20

read a lot stuff that

2:22

was really about

2:24

the movie actually, some people saying that

2:26

was to the gen z

2:28

generation, some people saying that it

2:30

was on i personally

2:33

really, really enjoyed this movie i

2:35

thought it was fun while, also

2:37

being genuinely scary at certain

2:39

times, but i also thought the commentary

2:42

on genzee was really interesting

2:44

and i'm really excited to talk about it i dunno

2:46

if you consider yourself a representative of genji

2:48

or how you feel about labels

2:50

in the first place, but you are roughly the same

2:53

as the in this movie, right? the

2:55

group of mainly twenty-somethings, who gather

2:57

at this country house but fancy

2:59

mcmahon yeah i think i'm technically

3:02

a zola and you're so right

3:03

the car but i definitely identify

3:06

with a lot of their tendencies and

3:08

reactions to things that happen in this movie

3:10

there's gonna be gonna big lesson that we cover

3:12

i guess as to what extent is this a portrait

3:14

of a generation or is this is a portrait of some individual

3:17

and often very annoying individual

3:19

of so then i can counter that by saying maybe we'll

3:21

have some good juicy conversation

3:24

to come because i really did not like a sniffy

3:26

and then i went after watching

3:29

it i went on rotten tomatoes and saw that it was it ninety two

3:31

percent almost every critic loves it and

3:33

i was very curious to see how it's one

3:35

of are so many people i don't think that it is objective

3:38

li terrible i just think that by the terms

3:40

that it sets out for itself to do some things that are

3:42

funny interesting ideas for

3:44

of horrors last comedy

3:46

movie about the situation it doesn't necessarily

3:49

execute authors hideous extremely

3:51

well but let's get into first of

3:53

all who these people are

3:55

who are isolated at the of that fancy

3:58

house of the character played by pete

4:00

davidson a we don't need to run down every character

4:02

especially since the movie itself isn't established

4:05

and differentiate most of the characters particularly

4:07

well but at least the main few people

4:09

who are our protagonist so as

4:11

the movie begins the i think the very first thing

4:13

we see is a young couple to women making

4:16

out and these are going to be more or

4:18

less our protagonists although we

4:20

don't quite know whether to trust them throughout the

4:22

movie their play by a man with sandberg and

4:24

maria coller the and their

4:26

two young women who seemed had just started dating recently

4:29

and who are madly in love and all over each other

4:31

and they are on the their way to a weekend at this

4:33

very fancy spread a big

4:35

gated mention owned by the family

4:38

of the pete davidson character or a d wanna

4:40

take a little bit from their about who the pete

4:42

davidson character is and the other folks at

4:44

this weekend party sir so

4:46

sophie and be arrive at pete

4:49

davidson power he plays a character named

4:51

david the only thing we really know

4:53

about him is that he's sophie's best

4:55

friends for years he's

4:57

dating emma who has played

5:00

by chase we wonders and we'd honestly

5:02

don't get much about emma right

5:04

off the bat accept that see is

5:06

dating david than there's also alice

5:09

has played by rachel senate now alice

5:11

we get a lot about he's a sort of self obsessed

5:13

influencer turned podcast

5:16

her and she's dating

5:18

it seems greg who's played by lee

5:20

pace who is her boyfriend of

5:23

at that point and undisclosed sum

5:24

the time and he's much older than everyone

5:27

else and also very very attractive

5:29

as we all know we pay city and that kind of and

5:31

david a little bit and then they're stored and

5:33

to sleep i'm halo harold jordan

5:35

is the only sort of outlier

5:38

of the group one who's not coupled up

5:40

with someone else not dating anyone

5:42

dirt and seems a little rough around the edges when we first

5:44

meet her seems like she's got some things she

5:46

wants to get off her chest but won't and so

5:48

that's our sort of cast for this

5:50

slasher film that will be stuck in the

5:53

house together and as a young

5:55

couple arrives at his house party there's some

5:57

kind of bad vibes being put out it's sort

5:59

of securely bad vibes being put out by

6:02

everybody who's swimming in the pool and was not

6:04

expecting them to com it starts to come out that

6:06

sophie seems to be freshly out of rehab

6:09

that she has to some extent and ghosted her

6:11

friends and stopped responding to their group

6:13

text chat which is why nobody was expecting

6:15

her at the house party that nobody knows

6:17

about who knew her new girlfriend who she's bringing out of the

6:19

blue so there's a little bit of a sense that

6:21

there's a a vibe that is already established that

6:23

the arriving couple is disturbing wouldn't

6:26

you agree oh one hundred per cent there's

6:28

a lot of hushed tones and side

6:30

eyes and just general confusion

6:33

about what she's doing there and confusion

6:35

about how to take the fact that she's there with them

6:38

so here is where something is established that

6:40

i think could have been much better i'm

6:42

developed later on that kind of dies out

6:44

but there's only two men at this party right there's five

6:46

women to men and the

6:48

two men clearly have this kind of toxic

6:51

bro energy between the two of them

6:53

were there are competing for attention

6:55

for kind of alpha primacy

6:57

and i wonder if you could talk about how that manifests

6:59

itself early in the movie i think this

7:02

is one of the things that i kept thinking if only that

7:04

thread had been developed a little bit better and

7:06

that there could have been a little bit more about gendered

7:08

competition and energy in a later

7:10

period of the movie so i think the way

7:12

everything develops it just becomes

7:14

clear sort of early on that

7:16

day they'd play by pete davidson has

7:19

a complex where he like you said

7:21

once to be the alpha male he wants to be the

7:23

mail presents he doesn't want to feel threatened

7:25

by other men it's alluded to that

7:28

before we meet everyone there was

7:30

an altercation between david and

7:32

a character that we don't get to me until the very

7:34

end named max he already had an altercation

7:36

with one other men and then there's

7:39

another man who enters the houses greg played

7:41

by lee pace and it seems that off

7:43

the bat david wants to sort of discount everything

7:45

he's saying he's very rude to him he's

7:47

definitely trying to one up him he even

7:50

confronts him physically a few

7:52

separate points and it's not really stated

7:55

why or what his history is but i honestly

7:57

think we're just meant to see him as

7:59

a sort of the future of just

8:01

a gentle asshole he said pick

8:03

one of those guys who just always has to be

8:05

the guy and i think it makes sense of we understand

8:08

that he's been surrounded by all these women as

8:10

his main group of friends for however many years

8:13

that is a place so that i really feel like the screenwriting

8:15

falls down and when i realized that it's a horror

8:17

movie and it's about who's gonna get picked off at

8:19

his house party and that we don't have to know everybody's

8:21

backstory but i had so little have

8:23

a sense it wasn't even at agatha christie season

8:26

ten little indians level sense of who

8:29

the each individual person was to every other

8:31

person right so we're told that pete davidson

8:33

is the childhood friends of sophie

8:35

the men with denburg character and that's

8:37

very briefly set up at they don't seem to be

8:39

much more connected or have much more

8:41

of a history than anybody else stairs characters

8:44

like jordan who we know virtually

8:46

nothing about and emma right we know she's an

8:48

actress that's it and may be an actress of questionable

8:50

quality it comes up later and see supposed

8:52

to be self dramatizing or but they're also

8:54

sell dramatizing that they're really not differentiated

8:57

i mean it took me quite a while to figure out

8:59

who everyone who were not the three

9:01

biggest , in the movie movie

9:04

as a character the couple that comes into the house

9:06

party they said what form

9:08

themselves his real character so does the t davidson

9:10

character but as will talk about he doesn't last that

9:12

long i had a hard time finding a protagonist

9:15

in this movie to want to even be the final

9:17

girl or final guy you know what i'm saying

9:19

i mean i understand that it's a social satire

9:22

but you still want somebody that you can sort of

9:24

dig your your teeth into in terms

9:26

of identification and you know following

9:28

their story yeah i know exactly what you mean i

9:30

feel like i can't really point

9:33

to other movies right now but i get

9:35

the ceiling or overall sense of this is becoming

9:37

a sort of trend in millennial gens

9:39

the sort of films where

9:41

the moral of the story assist everyone

9:44

sacks assholes that and

9:46

i kind of enjoy that you know it's kind of fun

9:49

to just watch all these characters be messy

9:51

but maybe that's also because this that's

9:53

also what i'm used to in terms of the entertainment

9:55

that's people my generation seek out in

9:57

the way we communicate with each other but i do think

9:59

that

10:00

mama sternberg i found her character

10:02

sophie really interesting and so i was

10:04

sort of rooting for her just because i wanted to get to the

10:06

bottom of like what heard deal was

10:08

his if that makes any sense but i would agree

10:10

with you that there wasn't one character that i was

10:12

really we hoping would make it out alive

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the movie itself treats everyone is expendable

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so you start to think of them as expendable to

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you can imagine at

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for twenty somethings everybody

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is drinking everybody's doing drugs

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everybody's making out and corners i kind

13:45

of wild house party is starting to assemble itself

13:47

and their first night together with some

13:49

of them already drunk and others getting drunk

13:51

in the course of the game they decide to play this

13:54

murder game called bodies bodies bodies hence

13:56

the title and i wonder if you could describe

13:58

end of may be tell me too the played

14:00

a game like that it seemed to me basically like that the

14:02

party game mafia

14:04

if i actually have played mafia tons

14:06

of times of my friends i'm very very familiar

14:08

with this concept of bodies bodies

14:10

bodies the one thing that i do want to comment

14:13

on before i explain

14:15

the game before we go further is that at the same

14:17

time that they're having a party there is

14:19

an impending hurricane that has decided

14:21

to just pour

14:23

down water and it's seems

14:25

like a very a very storm there's a whole

14:28

bunch of wind that's the main reason why

14:30

they all stay in the house instead of at the

14:32

nice fancy pool in this mic mansion that there

14:34

are so when they're in the house they decide

14:36

to the body size bodies which is basically

14:38

a game where there is one designated

14:41

person as the murderer and everyone

14:43

else is designated as townspeople

14:46

are just civilians and all this is done anonymously

14:48

so excited and three slips of paper

14:51

or tabs on the shoulder while everyone's eyes

14:53

are closed by the game host or game master

14:55

harvey decide to play it so there's one murder

14:58

there's a whole bunch of civilians and the whole point

15:00

of the game as for the murderer to kill

15:02

people by tapping them on the shoulder are

15:04

giving them some sort of sign or movement and

15:07

for the other towns people after

15:09

each death monster discovered they

15:11

take a break they have a discussion and they all

15:13

have to decide who they think the murder

15:15

is and so that they can have this to them

15:18

or killed them or whatever is a sort

15:20

of metaphor is for getting the murderer out

15:22

so there's a whole bunch of rounds each round

15:25

the murder kill someone the rest of the

15:27

living people try and figure out who

15:29

they think the murderer is and then if

15:31

they get it right then the game's

15:33

over and if they don't the round keep going

15:35

and the murder keep going

15:37

and so in the first round of this game

15:39

the murdered person turns out to be

15:41

greg lee pace his character in

15:43

the movies first of many fake outs and he

15:45

takes a really long time to wake up from his fake

15:47

death and we as a viewer knowing this is gonna

15:49

be a murder movie think i must somehow magically

15:52

be really dead but as it turns out he's just

15:54

messing with them he still alive but

15:56

again very quickly turns kind of sour

15:58

and toxic in fact i think the only get three

16:00

one round of the game before actual scary

16:03

murder stuff starts to happen isn't that right that's

16:05

very true so the first person that they

16:07

decide to exile after the

16:09

death that they suspects for killing greg

16:12

is david partially because of the

16:14

growing hostility that david has shown greg

16:16

this entire time but also partially because

16:18

david like i said before really

16:21

shows is true asshole or he and the way that

16:23

he treats emma and the things that he says about her while

16:25

they're playing the game so that's

16:27

kind of the first round and then all

16:29

of the men are gone at this point greg

16:32

upset by everything that has happened decides he wants

16:34

to go up there to sleep david pissed off that

16:36

he was killed first walked away somewhere

16:39

but then like you said everything goes

16:41

really really badly so the power cuts out

16:43

as it does during a hurricane and the girls

16:45

began to look around for supplies and then

16:47

that's when they encounter their first real

16:50

dad

16:51

david somehow

16:53

found his way outside and

16:55

appears with a slashed for yeah i'm here to

16:57

say that was a moment and i felt like this can be

16:59

scary as it is t david's his appearance

17:02

at that door you can't quite tell what's going

17:04

on east hurling himself against the glass

17:06

he's bleeding you don't know what

17:08

happened i thought oh this is gonna be a really

17:10

clever series of people being picked especially

17:13

surprising that pete davidson may be the biggest star

17:15

in the movie is the first one to die right

17:17

kind of psycho style as you like and of he didn't live

17:19

up to that promise really of and was

17:22

not very scary and fact i remember walking

17:24

home from the movie just thinking that's

17:26

it and just a little slightly jittery for

17:28

half an hour never forgotten about

17:30

it i don't go to horror movies to be jittery

17:32

i wanna be deeply terrified but yes

17:35

p davidson's death is scary and as

17:37

will get to the into the movie it is also i think

17:40

very clever and maybe the only clever

17:43

as in the entire movie but of course

17:45

his death throes the house into complete disarray

17:47

they can't get anywhere they can't use

17:49

any of the phones because the reception is out

17:52

it turns out the car battery is dead for the one car

17:54

that they have at the house and so after this

17:56

really frantic and pretty legitimately

17:58

tense as a think frightening scene where they're

18:00

running around a dark house with you know just their phone

18:03

flashlights trying to figure out why would have their

18:05

party has suddenly died of we

18:07

enter into the middle section of the

18:09

movie where they've accepted that they're trapped in the house

18:11

hates they know that the killer must

18:13

be one of them unless someone

18:16

is somehow lurking in the outskirts of the

18:18

house and the bodies start

18:20

to pile up in of increasingly

18:22

inexplicable ways habit murder number

18:25

two city what he gets did outlets

18:27

so the second death is greg

18:29

and what happens is the girls find greg because

18:31

they suspect him

18:32

even killer and in

18:35

an altercation where it becomes very clear

18:37

during the altercation

18:39

at least to me that greg had absolutely

18:41

nothing to do with this and was actually just very

18:43

confused be who is se girlfriend

18:46

that she brought to the house that is greg head

18:48

and with a kettle bell in what is deemed

18:50

as self defense but i don't know about actually

18:52

hold up with a quarter and thus greg

18:54

become the second i feel like that

18:57

he was where the movie started to go south for me

18:59

a little bit because i didn't see in bees

19:01

character who so far in the movie and

19:03

and subsequently pretty much in the movie to it's really

19:05

introverted right very unsure

19:07

of her status among this group of people

19:10

that she would be the person who would suddenly get

19:12

a kettle bell and smash this guy's

19:14

head in she didn't seem like she would necessarily

19:17

strong , to do that he also seems like what have

19:19

the smarter wasn't there some pretty

19:21

dumb people at his house party as will get to

19:24

and seems like someone who has someone who more forethought

19:26

to her decisions and a lot of them so

19:29

it just seems like a random character

19:31

to see me also i really felt really pays

19:34

him the seeking and i was sad he

19:36

was leaving the movie because lee pace is fantastic

19:38

and his character was one of the most

19:40

differentiated if only because he was from a different

19:43

generation he seem to have a different sensibility

19:45

even all of the girl i think

19:47

that he's of that as in a former

19:49

person in the military when it turns out that he was actually

19:52

just a veterinarian i love

19:54

to brag and i lovely pace and i was so

19:56

sad to see him go so early i feel

19:59

like a lot of energy the movie honestly

20:01

when those two guys leave the movie in order

20:03

for that to have been worth it at like i said up

20:05

top there should have been a little bit more of an establishment

20:07

of like let's get the men out of who a first

20:10

i mean i'm all for the idea that it's sort of like

20:12

that how quickly becomes this all woman

20:14

matriarchy of murder but

20:16

without those two characters having a little bit

20:18

more time to develop their relationships to

20:21

each other into the audience it was just

20:23

as if they were i don't know dominoes been

20:25

toppled so that the plot could continue right

20:28

i guess i would just push back in the sense

20:30

that i think while

20:32

, agree just because i really love pete davidson

20:34

and lee pace as performers and actors

20:37

and sure how i think that

20:39

film was trying to get to

20:41

the meat of what it was trying to say

20:43

i guess or to get to it's thesis and

20:45

so after greg was killed

20:48

with when i sort of felt like okay

20:51

now we're getting to whatever the movies really trying

20:53

to do and i was excited to see what

20:56

that was because i wasn't entirely sure

20:58

though i had some idea but i do

21:00

think that a

21:02

me it seemed like okay this is the point where

21:04

the movies actually supposed to start ramping

21:06

up and where these girls are supposed

21:08

to release

21:10

start distressing each other and throwing

21:12

each other and about

21:13

let's talk about the very first woman to

21:15

die we know that something really

21:17

strange is going on when the third person

21:19

dies which is emma the

21:21

actress who is was the girlfriend

21:23

of of li paces character after greg's

21:26

death the girls are obviously

21:28

understandably very shaken sophie

21:30

and of relaxing and finding

21:32

cocaine i believe but then

21:34

so we also find some other pills was she

21:37

hands to emma that's the last time we

21:39

see emma and then as the girls are

21:41

running around the house doing of the different things

21:43

are tight

21:43

do alice happens upon

21:46

m as prone dead body

21:48

yeah that's the scary thing to actually just the choreography

21:50

of it because what happens is alice racing

21:52

around racing the dark as all of them are and just fall

21:55

full length onto this dead body with wide

21:57

open eyes which is pretty freaky

21:59

and gary and also makes you realize

22:01

this really is gonna be kind of and agatha

22:03

christie scenario where anybody could go

22:05

at any time in the previous two there's been a surprise

22:07

death and there's been a death that was the kind of a retaliation

22:10

or natural reaction to that but here

22:12

comes just another completely unexplained

22:15

deaths out of the blue should we get to why

22:17

all these people die soon as

22:19

we talk about their death or are we saving

22:21

the reveal of and this death for as long

22:23

as the movie say that okay i think

22:25

we can at least talk about emus death does

22:27

because to me it was very obvious and i think

22:29

it actually points to what

22:32

the film was needy overall trying

22:34

to say so there is a point after emmons death

22:36

where someone i don't remember who suggests

22:39

that maybe she just fell she was found at the bottom

22:41

of a set of stairs so it's very plausible

22:43

that she could have just

22:45

well down the stairs and her wounds

22:47

really did look like blunt force trauma but

22:49

because of their paranoia and because

22:51

of everything that they had experience thus far they

22:53

really believed that someone in the house

22:55

with out to get them all when

22:58

in reality it was actually

23:00

the drugs that sophie gave emma

23:02

that caused her to fall down the

23:04

stairs of him

23:05

fagan right she gets her i think they say

23:07

then acts because understandably

23:09

emily so upset about her boyfriend having

23:11

since saber to death by in the series

23:13

assailants and so i guess

23:16

there's there's some kind of critique

23:18

or commentary and that you start to see that

23:20

all of these deaths are building on each other and hysteria

23:22

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24:59

emma the first woman to die is

25:01

taken out by what turns out to be of non

25:04

murder a simple fall down the stairs there

25:06

are only be for women left in the house

25:08

so now we have sophie and be

25:10

the couple who crashed the party right

25:13

jordan the friend his motives we

25:15

don't really understand but he seems to have to have of hostility

25:17

toward sophie and we start to figure out why in

25:20

here toward the end of the movie and

25:22

alice who i will say i think played by rachel

25:24

tonight is my favorite character in the movie

25:26

because this social stereotype we've been talking about

25:28

the kind of entitled whiny generations

25:31

the person is beautifully embodied

25:33

by alice and she also gets some of the best lines

25:35

i guess he is the most overtly dumb person

25:37

it's a party great but he's completely convinced

25:40

that she's not done and i have to say that even

25:42

as someone who is two generations removed from

25:44

this generation i really felt for

25:46

the cutting commentary on her podcast

25:48

and how pathetic it would seem to be somebody

25:50

who podcast in fact i was thinking about the fact

25:52

that in pop culture podcasting is almost always

25:55

associated with sort of boring whiny

25:57

hits systems jersey sites the

26:00

with somebody who makes in part my living

26:02

from podcasting you know that gonna hit home

26:04

that she's really really good at that sort of and

26:06

self exposure and silliness i don't know

26:08

if you saw the movie shiver babies and last

26:10

year i think it was are a couple years ago but it's a

26:12

great comic performance from rachel's tonight and

26:15

i think she could have done even more if she been given

26:17

a little more screen time and a little bit better

26:19

writing i haven't seen shiver baby

26:21

were after this movie i feel the

26:23

need to track down everything that rachel senate

26:25

has ever been in and ever done like you said

26:27

she just absolutely nails it i think it's really

26:29

hard to nail this

26:32

because this think that gens years

26:34

especially of the sort of social media

26:36

influence

26:37

or podcast stereotype or

26:39

just often openly

26:41

mine's society

26:43

and so to sort of impart this

26:46

really earnest grounded well

26:48

meaning this to the character but also

26:51

to still play her up as

26:53

up as end extremely dumb extremely

26:55

simple as character is a really tricky

26:57

thing to do a ride the really fine line

26:59

and i think that rachel senate just played alice

27:02

to the best of her ability yeah

27:04

she's kind of lovable and her idiocy

27:07

seek it out and and she

27:09

also is just a clear type see someone his memorable

27:11

she has her own style he worse as glow sticks

27:14

around her neck i mean it a period of the movie

27:16

when i was sort of thinking like what characteristic as

27:18

each of these women supposed to have again she was someone

27:20

who always had a kind of a defined

27:22

character and personality and i think

27:24

important to note she's the one friend out of everyone

27:27

who no one really has anything bad to

27:29

say about her or at least that they've been saying behind

27:31

her back you know they might besides liking

27:35

her podcast there's not really

27:37

any sort of very person on deep

27:39

lobs at her when they all start tearing

27:41

each other apart and i think that that

27:43

has you know a lot to say about that

27:45

sort of type and that character and what her energy

27:48

is and how lovable she is despite

27:50

all of her miss getting the i completely

27:52

agree gay rachel's and i are we have two

27:54

more deaths to get through in this movie i just want

27:56

to quickly countdown how we lose our last two

27:59

victims simile taken the break and then we'll get to the movies

28:01

ending which i actually think although in general

28:03

i was disappointed is it's desperate so

28:06

how do our last two women bite the dust

28:08

in all this confusion after

28:10

emus death

28:12

the excommunicate be from the house

28:14

and suspecting be so they throw her outside

28:17

into the hurricane then

28:19

i'm she finds a way back in while

28:21

she was outside she sees that jordan

28:24

had a then she confronts jordan

28:26

who then begins to argue with

28:28

all the girls about as were

28:30

saying all of their sort of previous trauma

28:33

jordan and that pulling out the gun she

28:35

shoots alice in the leg at first

28:37

just because of the argument that they're having

28:39

but then there becomes a wrestle for the gun

28:42

that alice ends up being shot

28:44

by the gun then very

28:47

very shaken very from

28:49

jordan runs through the house

28:51

with the gun

28:53

the remaining girls be and sophie try

28:55

to get it away from her try to convince her

28:57

to put it down she won't be

28:59

tackles jordan on the second floor

29:02

of the house and jordan and that getting thrown

29:04

over the second for bannister and

29:06

falling onto a table full of like crust

29:09

pizza cans and glass to her

29:11

death and then it's just

29:13

the two girls that we started with sophie

29:15

and be less

29:16

now

29:17

i think it's also worth noting the jordan's last words

29:19

after she is just crashed through a table full of bottles

29:22

are it's that be should sit check sophie's

29:24

tax because according to jordan she

29:26

has been cheating on her with jordan

29:28

and that becomes important in the

29:30

very last moment of the movie or

29:33

a well we can take one more britain and we will get to

29:35

the denouement that sort of explains

29:37

in one fell swoop how all the murders happened

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alright let's get to the very ending

30:26

of bodies buddies bodies we've now got to

30:28

final girls that the couple who originally right

30:30

at the house or the only ones to have survived

30:32

and after this long frantic night

30:34

of racing around a dark house it's finally morning

30:36

so they can see again and

30:39

d one hit explain what happened out

30:41

by the pool on this last morning with these two

30:44

bloodstained women be and sophie

30:46

or at the pool be is trying

30:48

to get sophie's phone to check the tax

30:50

that jordan was mentioning they wrestle

30:53

for the phone as they wrestle in

30:55

the mud by the pool

30:57

edge they end up picking up david's

30:59

phone there's a really great scene where be walks

31:01

over to david's prone body and list his

31:03

eyes to unlock through facial id

31:06

his cell phone and once the a mark his phone

31:08

they see that david's death

31:11

was actually due to an accident

31:13

that he calls himself when he was making

31:15

a tic tac and was trying to recreate

31:18

a move that greg did earlier where he used

31:21

a sword to pop the cork

31:23

on a champagne bottle and

31:25

while he was trying to attempt to the some of the he could

31:27

not do he accidently slit his own throat

31:29

with said sword full and

31:31

there was never and murderer in the house known

31:34

as out to get any one ever

31:36

it was

31:36

ah started by

31:38

david and his one accident

31:41

offer a tic tac i mean

31:43

even though in general i couldn't sort of wait

31:45

for this movie to be over and did not find it either

31:47

funny or scary enough to kind of justify it's existence

31:50

the ending was so satisfyingly

31:52

mean and of

31:54

and of and bleak that i think

31:57

it kind of made it worthwhile i mean just

31:59

the idea that he was trying to narcissistic

32:01

li pop the other guys champagne

32:03

sword trick in a tick tock and that led

32:05

to this whole chain of murders i think it's

32:07

a stronger indictment of generations

32:10

narcissism than almost any of the other

32:12

scenes trying to make that point yeah i completely

32:15

agree i mean i think the thing about gens the

32:17

from my personal experience is that we know

32:20

how to make fun of each other we know how to laugh

32:22

at each other because not only does

32:24

the sort of social media economy require

32:26

it but we've had to do it because

32:29

everyone else does it off the time as well

32:31

and so it was cruel and i really

32:33

enjoyed the assets even though it's

32:35

a little odd for me to say that but i

32:37

completely agree i mean i think the whole sort of

32:40

start no exit

32:41

the you know we are each other's

32:44

the torturers thing is just

32:46

very up likeable and very real

32:48

and it's taken a lot of turns and i really liked the way

32:50

it shows up here in the sense that everyone a sort

32:52

of so self obsessed or

32:54

so

32:54

worried about their own charmer a past

32:56

or how there

32:57

coming off that they couldn't take the time

32:59

to realize that there was never

33:02

actually any threat and the first

33:04

place but i really likes all of the moments

33:06

where it was so

33:07

eerie biting and really really cruel

33:09

level of plummeting and that precision

33:11

of detail had existed throughout the whole movie

33:13

and with and it hit explained every death i think

33:16

i would have found it more satisfying to me it seemed like there

33:18

was a little jittery chaos leading

33:20

up to that moment and not all of it rose

33:22

to that standard let i can see how

33:24

this movie could be a fun summer

33:26

was even if it does kind of disappear from

33:28

your brain pretty quickly after all right

33:31

well madeira you semi convinced me instead of

33:33

me bringing you over to the side of

33:35

thinking bodies bodies bodies as kind as

33:37

a chaotic don't mess you've kind of convince

33:39

me that it was a chaotic yet funny

33:41

and entertaining mess and i will concede

33:43

that if a movie can turn me off for nearly it's entire

33:46

running time to didn't impress me with it's ending you

33:48

know it's got something going on i'm

33:50

so glad to hear that because they really did enjoy

33:52

this movie but i will take this

33:55

sort of praise with a grain of salt as

33:57

this movie

33:58

warned me to do

33:59

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