0:03

Listener,

0:03

I gotta tell you, I'm early for the session

0:05

today, but it's fortunate

0:08

because the light in the room

0:10

that I record this in is just

0:12

so It's delicious,

0:14

and there's a sunbeam. just

0:17

catching my mouth, just perfectly

0:19

right now. No other part of my face

0:21

is lit except my mouth, which

0:23

is perfect because that's all I'm gonna be using for

0:25

the next hour. I'm gonna have

0:27

to chase the sun a bit. So if my signal breaks

0:30

up in the middle of this interview, you're gonna know why,

0:32

but my God, if you could see my mouth

0:34

right now.

0:36

If

0:36

it looks as good as it sounds, you're

0:39

looking at it correctly.

0:41

This is smartness.

1:00

I actually was on a flight once, and

1:04

we we started down the runway

1:06

and, like, started to speed up speed up speed up.

1:08

and they had that thing. Remember these just sometimes put

1:10

they had the camera on the front of the plane so you

1:12

can see the runway. Mhmm. Yes. And it was

1:14

like a, you know, whatever big carrier go

1:18

down the road and then slow down

1:21

and then peeled off. Like, and then let's,

1:23

whoa. And then guys and then finally, like, well,

1:25

we got a bit of an issue here. We're gonna go back a

1:27

gate here and take a look. We sat on the plane

1:29

for, like, ninety minutes. He's,

1:31

like, we start to pull

1:33

back from the gate. He's, like, okay, we think we

1:35

got it taken care of here, so we're just gonna

1:37

give it another shot. And I'm like, no.

1:40

Give it another shot. Yeah,

1:43

Vince. What do you Isn't it strange how you

1:45

never meet the pilot?

1:48

I

1:48

mean, it it is your life is

1:50

one thousand percent in this person's

1:53

hands. Yeah. When when would you ever

1:55

put your life and the life of your family in

1:57

anyone's hands that you haven't met? And you're

1:59

gonna do that for

1:59

a few hours.

2:01

Hang on. Let me just say that. And

2:03

what I ever put my my my family.

2:06

That's recurring though. Oh, that

2:09

was rhetorical. Yeah. Yeah. Kind

2:11

of. Okay. Yeah.

2:12

You know that's that's so interesting. III

2:16

have little fear. We talked about that

2:18

last time about the turbulence and stuff like that. Yeah. A

2:20

little bit of that. Yeah.

2:21

Looks like you have a fear of waking up

2:23

too. What do you still I mean, it's

2:25

not very little. It is early to

2:27

me. I just You have a fear of hair product? Hey.

2:30

I have no product in my hair. I just had a face

2:32

real lammable up there. Flammable?

2:35

Yeah. Keep it away from flame. How

2:37

what are we at days wise from seeing

2:39

Scabble? Like,

2:40

from from the last one to the next one,

2:42

where are we at? What's the that guy

2:44

cuts his hair, Tracy. Yeah. I just saw

2:46

him last week. Yeah. He's great. He just

2:48

saw us. Okay. You saw him last week. It's going,

2:50

like, on a cost bench? Or would

2:52

You weren't in the salon? Did he have scissors?

2:55

No. I was not in the salon. No.

2:56

You weren't. I

2:57

thought I thought I'd shoot. You're in a bus. Oh, you're

2:59

in a fair shoot. First of all, let me just say it's

3:02

nine thirty in the morning. It's nine

3:04

thirty in the morning. This is one of the earlier

3:06

records

3:06

we've ever done. Kinda like it. And so far,

3:08

I gotta say we're feeling it. Yeah.

3:10

It's, like, kinda low energy.

3:12

It's, like, breakfast energy. Now

3:15

listen, I would say this because we we I you

3:17

know, I wanna get to our guest, but, Jay, you have a

3:19

real everybody's got a real relaxed vibe.

3:21

You got a real relaxed hoodie on

3:23

today with no t underneath. Where's

3:26

a tea? It's a sleepwear?

3:28

It's a limpy tea. It's a limpy

3:30

tea. Oh, and it's also the same color. Look at that.

3:35

You have me in my bedwear. Okay. But

3:37

this is what I was gonna say before. I started

3:39

I don't know why I thought of this. I

3:42

Scott and I started doing this at night where we

3:44

opened the door. Why do we need some? is again

3:46

real quick. And tell me what you do at night?

3:51

We open the door and

3:53

even though it's kinda hot, we we open the door

3:55

and and we put on the fan. And

3:57

it

3:57

reminds you of being a kid when we didn't have AC.

4:00

God. What a great story? When I make a bowl of ice

4:02

cream and watch it, like, relatable. Yeah. I had a

4:04

hey, man. He's not very blessed. But

4:06

sometimes sometimes we don't eat at night just

4:08

so I could can really relate to all the people who

4:11

are starving in the world. No. No.

4:13

I and then I have a bowl of ice cream in Senegal. But

4:15

last night, I had a whole box of Swedish fish

4:17

and it didn't stay inside me.

4:20

gonna stay inside you. Mhmm. So

4:24

but, you know, usually those things now we are you

4:26

sure it wasn't the back end of the box you bought

4:28

at Hollywood bowl? No. because no.

4:31

I You bought another second box. Yeah.

4:33

But he you're saying that you barfed you barfed last

4:35

night? No. No. It came out the other way. Oh, then

4:38

that's just natural. You don't need to tell me I

4:40

assume that all food you eat is gonna come out

4:42

the other. Just for what it's worth? It it

4:44

it didn't stay inside me very long. And doesn't

4:46

it create a plug? Those things --

4:48

Those those come here. -- there's a minute I'm a

4:50

minute. come on. Why are we going? I'm

4:52

not surprised you and just gotta do that thing because I

4:54

know I know how you are. I know you always He's always

4:56

got a new fan. Well, you all feel George. You put No.

4:58

He loves a fan. Yeah.

5:01

It's so good. Always a fan for

5:03

a fan. Hey,

5:05

listen. Speaking of fans,

5:07

I'm a fan of our guest today. Oh, nice.

5:09

What a great segue. Thank you so much. I'm

5:12

trying to win segue of the year. I think they're gonna do

5:14

the webbies next year. I

5:17

I've been a fan of this person for a long

5:19

time. And the reason is because this

5:21

person has done so much

5:25

in film and television as

5:28

a

5:29

director

5:30

as a writer, but primarily we

5:33

know him really for his

5:35

incredible breath of work. And

5:37

this is and I don't wanna embarrass this

5:39

person, but this is I this term,

5:42

you don't throw around very lightly.

5:44

This is an actor's actor. This

5:46

is somebody who's done it all. This is Is this

5:48

a storyteller? This person cannot be this

5:50

is a storyteller. It cannot be defined.

5:53

He is a movie star and

5:55

he is a character actor. he is

5:57

all of these things to mind. On I

5:59

swear to God, it is one of the most incredible

6:02

this person has had so many different

6:05

stages to his career and done so many amazing

6:08

things. And I don't really know him that

6:10

well. We we met a couple of times. And you're not saying,

6:12

like, what movie or anything? because we'll get it right away. Well,

6:14

yeah. Well, here, once I start going and the list

6:16

is so long that it's got its own page on Wikipedia

6:18

for his filmography. No way.

6:21

Yeah. He his first film was

6:23

animal house. Then I'm gonna

6:25

jump a little bit just so to try to throw you

6:27

off. Jamie Widows. JFK,

6:30

a few good men, Apollo thirteen,

6:35

Sleepers. This is this is this

6:37

mister bacon? Patriot day. Then I'm gonna

6:39

go back to Mister bacon. A bunch of but

6:42

then what the thing that really

6:44

shot him to super stardom was

6:46

a film that

6:48

we all still love in your foot loose,

6:51

Cuffalo, this is mister Kevin Bacon.

6:53

Wow. Incredible Kevin Bacon.

6:57

Don't don't. I'm trying to unsee Sean's

6:59

bold fold Swedish. Yes. Baldyfish

7:02

swimming out of his bowling. Oh, so is

7:04

Scotty. Scotty is their corner crudes. So

7:08

Oh my oh my gosh. It's so cool to to you.

7:10

Hey, man. Welcome. I haven't seen your

7:12

since Will and Grace. I know. I

7:14

know. I know. And

7:17

I've been good. And I can't tell you how many

7:19

times

7:20

I'll, you know, do that that walking through

7:22

the airport thing,

7:24

Sean, and and people will

7:26

come up to me and say, you know what

7:28

the best thing you ever

7:30

did was, and it'll

7:33

be will and grace. And and it it doesn't

7:35

it doesn't necessarily you

7:37

know, pop into my head as as

7:39

as as that was one of the options. I mean, I had

7:41

a great time doing it. Don't get me wrong, but

7:44

Yeah. Like, people that really made an impression

7:46

of You're like, you're gonna have to narrow it down because

7:48

my my filmography is like a

7:50

thousand credits So let me let

7:52

me tell you what I think the best. Hey, you know what? It's

7:54

so funny. I was just talking about footlifts

7:57

the other day.

7:58

And is it true

7:59

that Tom Cruise was

8:02

almost

8:02

up for that part or up for

8:04

that part and you got it or something like

8:07

Probably yeah. Probably. I mean, I think,

8:09

you know, all the young dudes were,

8:11

you know, up for going out. It

8:14

was just one of those one of those things,

8:16

you know. Yeah. So here I am on

8:18

Smart List bucket list. Mhmm. So

8:20

cool. All I can think of my wife said

8:23

clearly they have run out of important

8:25

celebrities They've

8:29

made their way they've made their way

8:31

down to you after. How was it been?

8:33

A thousand and in thirty five episodes or something

8:35

like that. No. No. No. First of all, by the way, I've listened to every single

8:37

one of them. I just I listened to every single

8:40

fucking Oh my god. Yes.

8:42

That's not true. It's absolutely true. Kevin,

8:44

that speaks less to how how the quality

8:46

of our show went more to your profound

8:48

boredom, I think. So Kevin,

8:51

I you know, I've had the good fortune

8:54

of bumping into you just a couple of times,

8:56

and I'm always just like,

8:58

kinda buzzing after I

9:00

finished saying hi to you and your wife, and

9:02

you guys are just always so kind and

9:04

nice to me and pleasant. to

9:06

even the the the person you were talking to before

9:08

you talked to me and the person afterwards. And

9:11

where do you think that, like, were you

9:13

were you always like that? Or does this come

9:15

as a result of you both being in

9:18

this business for so long and and

9:20

have such AAA well earned appreciation

9:23

for your longevity and You

9:25

know, is that is that is that why you're so

9:27

kind to everybody?

9:29

I love being

9:32

an actor and I

9:35

I feel just a tremendous amount

9:37

of gratitude to be able to do

9:40

what I do. And when it comes

9:42

to being kind to people, I

9:44

know. III kinda feel like

9:48

that really is like I think my

9:50

mother was very much, you know,

9:52

like influential in terms of that

9:55

that kind of stuff. I think

9:57

my dad was somebody

9:59

who was very driven and I kinda

10:01

got the success thing from him, you

10:03

know, the dry Sean said was

10:05

driven. Yeah, man. Sorry.

10:09

That was such a softball. That's

10:11

powerful. I don't let those go by. I was not

10:13

planning on tossing that one too. I don't know.

10:16

My my dad is the driver. He wasn't driven.

10:18

Yeah. That's really have to get a screeching tire

10:20

sound backside on this podcast. be

10:22

driven away at a Mazda. Now

10:25

you know that I've listened to the show when I

10:27

didn't even question what you were talking about.

10:30

Okay. That's true. Clearly, I knew

10:32

exactly it's like a test. All you had to say

10:34

was Sean's dad was, and

10:36

I knew where go. But you know

10:38

what? We should have known something was up when he

10:40

bought an m g. Remember those cars? The m

10:42

g? Yeah. He did.

10:45

He really brought it. Oh, boy. Yeah.

10:47

What is that, and we're all I can't eat. And

10:49

he's like, I bought an MG. Nice car.

10:51

That's cool. Should've known when he bought new

10:53

luggage. So

10:56

your mom your mom said it said

10:58

a good example. Dad was a was a little bit

11:00

more dead. Yeah. My mom said a

11:02

good example for compassion and being

11:04

kind to people and stuff like that. And --

11:07

That's nice. -- and, you know, listen, I I

11:09

love, like, to meet

11:11

people that do what we do and

11:14

and -- Yeah. -- to say hi and connect.

11:16

And you know, I I have a certain

11:18

kind of separation

11:21

in a funny kind of way from our industry.

11:23

This weird kind of like I've

11:26

I've never felt a hundred

11:28

percent sort of in it in the community

11:31

in a weird kind of way. And I,

11:33

you know, it's like, when I listen to you guys,

11:35

I'm like, cheese. I wanna be, you know, baking

11:37

cookies with Jennifer Aniston or, you know,

11:39

plain pickleball with Brian Reynolds or whatever

11:41

it is. You know, it's like I I listen, I go

11:44

shit. That that sounds like fun.

11:46

But, you know, being like in stay

11:48

in New York and stuff like that. So when

11:50

I do run into someone --

11:53

Yeah. -- like, anyone of you guys. You

11:55

know, I'm genuinely excited. It's

11:57

like it's not something that I do in a in

11:59

a normal course

11:59

Well, Jason's very interested. Jason's

12:02

interested. He asked that because he's like, how

12:04

that's so interesting to be nice to people like

12:06

it. How do you how

12:09

would I get there? Like, I he wants

12:11

to be as well. So he's Right.

12:13

Jason, that's breaking up for you. Yes.

12:15

I just can't attack it. Let

12:17

me know. No. Do you have is it

12:19

is it is it hard for you to keep that that pleasantness

12:22

up. I'd just walk in the streets there in New

12:24

York because I would imagine Right.

12:26

Yeah. Because oh,

12:28

I know what Jason said. Let me let me finish the

12:30

the sentence because he's so recognizable.

12:33

He's been, as you said, in everything,

12:36

and that is an credible

12:39

accomplishment. His longevity is

12:41

stunning. So I'd imagine you can't walk

12:43

into a room, a restaurant, a subway

12:46

car, anything without someone wanting to talk

12:48

especially if you're if you have this

12:50

big flashing green light up of,

12:52

like, a smile and, like, hey, I'm approachable.

12:54

Come on up and take a picture. Like, does

12:57

that get tough for you? because you're so known?

12:59

I don't walk around honestly

13:02

with the approachable smile on my face.

13:04

I have the opposite I walk

13:07

around with the opposite smile. It's a booth,

13:09

the opposite. consciously? It's yeah. I mean,

13:11

well, just over years

13:13

of doing it. And this is what

13:15

I think, you know. Well,

13:17

first of all, you've you've been famous for forty

13:19

years. I mean, it's you know what I mean? Yeah.

13:22

Right. So you gotta get used to it as eventually.

13:24

And I have no one to blame but myself. And

13:27

ninety nine percent of being famous

13:29

is good. Fuck. People give you shit. They

13:31

they say they tell you. People stop you and

13:33

say, I'd love you. It's like to be told

13:35

that you're somebody loves you. Yeah.

13:37

Yeah.

13:38

That's like gold. You know? Yeah.

13:40

I would imagine you get that a lot. Like, you're

13:42

you're you're a very, very well

13:44

known actor, very famous actor. but you're

13:46

not a celebrity. You know, like, I feel like the

13:49

celebrities are the ones that when they're walking down the

13:51

people take a picture because it's like an animal escape

13:53

the zoo. I gotta get a shot at this. Right. He's

13:55

walking down the street. Right. imagine people to

13:57

come up and talk to you. They're like, hey, Kevin. I

13:59

love you on Will and Grace. Hey, keep it going.

14:01

You know? Yeah. And and then

14:04

off you go and you don't really get hassled out.

14:06

Yeah. So

14:07

it does get a little bit

14:09

much, but like I say, it's all my fault.

14:12

and I just have to know that when I

14:14

when I leave the house that it's, you know,

14:17

gonna that's gonna be a thing. I'll tell

14:19

you the one thing that is definitely has changed though

14:21

is that when I became famous, out

14:23

of a thousand people, one person

14:26

had a camera. Right now,

14:28

out of a thousand people, a thousand

14:30

people have a camera. Only one person actually

14:32

knows how to use it. So it

14:34

slows things down, you know, just

14:37

no more out of your life. No. No. Because it's

14:39

shit about autographs anymore except for those guys

14:41

that I call the blue men,

14:43

you know, who are the guys that they

14:45

always they always have you signed with a blue Sharpie,

14:47

and they have just stacks of -- Right. -- don't

14:49

personalize it so they can sell the airports and

14:52

stuff like that. Sean knows a bunch of blue men, but

14:54

it's a different David Cross knows a bunch of blowman's

14:56

history. But you know what? I I feel bad,

14:58

Kevin, because now we've blown up your spot like

15:00

like you're walking around with the scale, but people

15:02

now know that underneath you're such a nice guy. So they're

15:04

like, oh, that's just his walk around face. I'll go up

15:06

there. Yeah.

15:09

But, you know, the thing is that I I don't

15:11

wanna stop being able to

15:14

move -- Yeah. -- that's why I love New York partly

15:16

-- Yeah. -- because I really I it it's

15:18

a city where if if I if I stay

15:20

out of the neighborhoods that are super

15:22

touristy, people just don't fuck

15:24

with you because they're too busy. They're just kind of like

15:27

they'll say, you know, how you doing? But that's but

15:29

like that's my I've always got to say over

15:31

the years, I've seen so many I've seen, you

15:33

know, you're again, you've been just part of

15:35

our sort of cultural fabric for

15:37

a long time. And any photo III

15:39

have to admit this to you is I think

15:41

you've got this

15:42

is crazy think you've got great style, and

15:44

I've always thought nobody rocks a fucking

15:46

jean jacket like Kevin Big. That's right.

15:48

I've thought this for years, man, jean

15:51

jacket. And nobody I was gonna

15:53

wear my jean jacket and I forgot. I

15:55

love the jean jacket here. Nobody

15:57

does it better than you, dude, ever.

15:59

And

15:59

you still look seventeen too. It

16:02

was just Yeah. What's your deal? Why do

16:04

you look so fucking young? You know he's not eating fucking

16:06

tinchen every night. Nothing.

16:10

We went Scott well, Scott. Swedish fish.

16:12

Yeah. Swedish fish is not bleeding Swedish fish

16:14

out of his ass.

16:19

Fucking Jesus Christ.

16:25

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16:27

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to the show. Hey, Kevin,

22:20

can I ask you something? Yeah. No. No. Hey, whoa.

22:22

Whoa. I don't think it's Kev. I'm sorry.

22:24

I'm not sure it's Kev. No. You can Kev me. You

22:26

can Kev me. My my brother's name is I don't actually

22:28

like Kev. Listen, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna

22:30

tell you, this is the truth.

22:32

I can't stand the name Kevin. Really?

22:35

I didn't like it when I was young. I don't like

22:37

it now. Kevin, if you read,

22:39

look at movies and scripts and even

22:41

in the UK, they use it as an

22:43

Insolized icon. You know, it's

22:45

like a It's like a Karen. Is that the male Karen?

22:48

It's like a Karen. It's like a Karen.

22:50

Exactly. It's like a Karen, but it's also

22:52

like at, like, my name's Keith, and his name's

22:54

Kevin, and I'm a plaster and he's a plumbers.

22:56

You know, it's like that kind of thing. Wow. Yeah.

22:59

It's like real sort of tough. My we Kevin,

23:01

my brother's name is Kevin. That's why I

23:03

defaulted. My point is that I do like

23:06

the name Kev. You do like to Oh, yeah.

23:08

So yeah. So you're allowed to have you can

23:10

have me on your own. What about k a, like,

23:12

KKB No?

23:14

KB. KB is great. Alright.

23:18

So my question is and Kevin,

23:20

we can totally cut this. but

23:22

I'm only asking because Hard hitting.

23:25

No. Because because when I saw it

23:27

in the news, I was like, oh, my

23:29

my heart went out to you. So we can cut this if

23:32

you want. but the Bernie madoff thing.

23:34

When

23:34

that happened to you, I know it was years ago,

23:36

but

23:37

I I can't imagine what that

23:40

was like going through that. Like,

23:42

because I saw I was like, wait, Kevin Bacon's

23:45

affected. I I really did feel so bad about

23:47

me, who doesn't know that story. You have me either?

23:50

I

23:50

would That is the story. money

23:52

made off. Yeah. That's the story. Yeah.

23:54

Yeah. We haven't we had we had most

23:57

of our money made off. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

23:59

Yeah.

24:01

Yeah. There's obvious life lessons there,

24:03

you know, if if something is too good to

24:05

be true, it's too good to be true.

24:07

Right. Right. Yeah.

24:09

And when something like that happens,

24:12

you know, you look at

24:14

each other and you go, well,

24:18

That sucks. And

24:22

let's roll up our sleeves and

24:24

get to work. You know? Yeah. We've

24:27

made it this far. Our

24:29

kids are healthy. Yeah.

24:32

We're healthy. Yeah. You know,

24:34

let's look at you know, what

24:36

we have that's good. We can still both

24:38

work and And,

24:42

yeah, I mean, certainly, you know, you get angry

24:44

and stuff. But I have to say that, you

24:46

know, that dude there

24:49

were a lot of people who

24:51

were much worse off

24:53

than we were, you know, old people.

24:56

People who retirement funds

24:58

were completely, you know, decimated.

25:01

Yeah. So there's always gonna

25:03

be somebody that's that's gonna have it

25:05

a lot worse than you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

25:07

And, you know, whatever,

25:09

the cliches all you

25:12

know, a work, whatever. It doesn't

25:14

kill you, makes you stronger. And, you know, we just

25:16

rolled up our sleeves. Right. There was also story

25:18

I remember reading this thing that lot of people were

25:20

made whole by that in the end. Were you got did

25:22

you guys recoup any of that? Again, we can cut

25:24

it. But were you guys get anything

25:27

back? Or was it Yes. Yeah.

25:29

It's very it's a it's a complicated

25:32

thing to explain, which would would

25:35

just be to I'll I'll be happy to tell you

25:37

about it. some day to be just be too deep

25:39

in the weeds. But basically, yes,

25:43

we got sort of like a

25:45

a, you know, a portion of some

25:48

money back. And and there was

25:50

also, you know,

25:52

a a lawsuit and stuff like that. But you know the thing

25:54

about it is is that it

25:56

looks like a certain amount of money. Right? There's

25:58

the money that you put in to something,

26:00

and then there's the money that you've in theory

26:03

gotten

26:04

you know, accrued with interests or

26:06

or or years. But that's just that

26:08

that's not real. That's just the number that

26:10

was on a piece of paper. Right? because

26:12

it was Yeah. It was not it was

26:14

not a real thing. So -- Right. -- so you have

26:16

to really just kinda switch your whole idea

26:19

about matrix and stuff like this. I think

26:21

people would be not

26:23

happy to to hear me whining about money,

26:26

but No. But now it can but I

26:28

I will say this, you know, just listening to

26:30

the way you talk about it. And it

26:32

it makes now, I read a great article,

26:35

you know,

26:35

in anticipation of us talking today

26:37

from talking about you in

26:40

having reaching, like, different having

26:42

a second wind and stuff, and the article was from nineteen

26:44

ninety four, which was almost

26:46

thirty years ago. And I thought to

26:48

me, it it it it was sort of

26:50

reinforced this idea that I have that

26:52

your guy who's able to kind of move

26:54

on and adapt and change.

26:57

Again, you came out. You were in the biggest

27:00

movie. You were in footlose. You were in the cover of

27:02

People magazine. You did all and

27:04

you did a bunch of big studio movies.

27:06

And then all of a sudden you're like, I'm gonna start doing interesting

27:08

roles because I wanna work with directors who

27:11

matter to me. Yeah. And reading

27:13

that from thirty years ago, and

27:15

you've continued to do it. And you've

27:17

gone like, you know what? I'm gonna do a TV

27:19

series. I'm gonna do a broadcast series.

27:21

now you're doing this cable series sitting on the

27:23

hill. You you've, like, consistently done

27:26

stuff, I guess, challenge yourself,

27:28

but and people say also, reinvent

27:31

yourself, but I don't know. That term is misleading.

27:33

It's like, reinvent to

27:35

them. To you, you're just growing,

27:38

I I would imagine. Yeah. What

27:40

what is that thing inside you that makes you just

27:42

kinda wake up every day and go?

27:44

Now I'm gonna go this way. I'm

27:46

gonna go that way. I

27:48

guess it's I

27:50

don't know. You know, I I I'd love

27:52

to tell you that it was a grand scheme, but it

27:54

really is just question of throwing shit against the

27:56

wall to see what sticks. Yeah. And

27:59

and also just kind of, you

28:02

know, when I started out there

28:04

was no plan b.

28:06

So

28:07

I I was just like,

28:09

okay, this is what I'm gonna do. you

28:12

know, I moved to New York. And it's what you love to

28:14

do. So it's what I love to do. I

28:16

love it. I love acting. I don't tire

28:18

of it at all. the

28:20

time between action it cut to me

28:22

is still just the

28:25

best. Alright? I love the rest of

28:27

it. I've I've lost patience

28:29

for. I have to do that, you know, the things that sort

28:31

of have to go along with it.

28:34

But the actual time where

28:37

I'm on that set. The

28:39

cameras are rolling. I'm with other

28:41

actors, tossing the ball

28:43

back, I I still love it. And -- Yeah.

28:45

-- I think that, you know, you like to say

28:47

that, you know, there's no secret to longevity.

28:50

longevity is a secret. And if you just

28:53

you

28:53

know, just fucking hang in there, you know.

28:55

And -- Yeah. -- and and if if you suck

28:57

when you begin, you're gonna get better

28:59

eventually, you know. Yeah. Right?

29:01

Alright. What was the first paycheck you got for

29:03

act for an acting gig? Yeah.

29:05

I'll tell you, I was about

29:09

fifteen or sixteen, I was still in Philly.

29:11

I moved to New York when I was seventeen, when

29:13

I got out of high school. I was still

29:15

in high school and So

29:19

I heard about from a friend of a friend

29:22

or something that there was this job

29:24

to be a a

29:27

kid in a It was like

29:29

a a ROTC recruitment

29:32

video. And it was going to pay,

29:35

I think, four hundred fifty dollars

29:37

or something like that. I was I was like freaking

29:39

out. I was like, this is the greatest thing. Now

29:42

my mother was

29:44

a serious anti war

29:46

activist and civil rights

29:49

activist took me down

29:51

to DC when I was a kid,

29:53

you know, marching on Washington and

29:56

and clearly this was after

29:59

the Vietnam where it ended, but it wasn't

30:01

so far on the heels of of

30:03

Vietnam. And she was super

30:05

anti military. So

30:07

I got this gig. And

30:11

I said, I'm taking it. And she

30:13

didn't speak to me for, like, a week. Oh,

30:15

wow. Oh, yeah.

30:17

She was furious. at the She was furious.

30:20

Yeah. But at that moment, you know,

30:22

at that moment, I did that

30:24

thing that I

30:26

think it's Robert Blythe talks about,

30:28

you know, in in the iron job where you

30:30

you steal the key underneath the

30:34

queen's bed. Yeah. It's

30:36

a, you know, you know, a rite of

30:38

passage of a young man to,

30:40

you know, walk away from his mother. and

30:42

which, you know, we all hopefully do

30:45

eventually. I was around the same age around

30:47

the same age. I got my ear pierced. My mom

30:49

didn't talk to me for, like, a a leak.

30:51

And then And that's your moment.

30:53

Right? And then go, no. I want this. That

30:55

was his moment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

30:57

there was a lineup of piercing. I think a lineup

30:59

piercing really sealed it. and you put

31:02

had your dad put it in drive and that was that

31:04

Gotcha. I'm surprised her she could hear you

31:06

over the Eurasia music that was playing.

31:10

Wait, Kevin. Go ahead. Kevin. Yeah. So

31:12

that was it. That was the first gig.

31:14

And I went and I I did

31:16

it and and

31:17

and that was awesome. How do you and

31:20

how do you and Kira have you

31:22

you maintained such an incredible success

31:25

story as far as marriage goes. You guys been together

31:27

so long with with two very vibrant

31:29

careers. Never working in the same

31:32

city. I'm sure there's tons of overlap with

31:34

your schedules. it's

31:36

gotta be an effort. I mean, to the extent

31:38

you're comfortable talking, you know,

31:41

details and strategies. What what is what's

31:43

this what's the secret there?

31:44

It's it's difficult thing to do,

31:47

I'm sure. Well,

31:48

you know as well as I do that over the years,

31:50

you learn the power of no, and and

31:52

that's the question that I

31:54

am trying not to answer.

31:57

So I will respectfully decline.

32:01

But I'm also gonna tell you I'm gonna tell

32:03

you why I'm gonna tell you why I won't

32:06

answer it. And the reason is is that

32:08

what happens is you

32:11

say something like, well, she's my best friend

32:13

-- Right. -- or, you know, you

32:16

know, we just whatever

32:18

the fuck it. You get it just some fucking quote.

32:21

And then people use that quote and you

32:23

take, what, a thirty four years of

32:25

marriage. And it gets reduced

32:27

Yeah. To a good point. Something that

32:29

either comes out of my whether it comes out of my mouth

32:31

or not. I love that. It's a great answer

32:34

though, man. I totally, totally agree.

32:36

Especially now more than ever.

32:39

I've had instances where, like, stuff's happened in my

32:41

life, and then it goes, like, it just becomes, like, a

32:43

click and you're, like, my life is

32:45

now a fucking click link, like, what

32:47

the hell? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious about

32:49

that that whole sort of distance

32:52

makes relationship difficult, you know,

32:54

military families, professional

32:57

athletes, anybody

32:59

that's trying to Astra great point.

33:01

Well because it doesn't because it'd be great.

33:04

Yeah. Yeah. It was, like, really far away.

33:06

But far. But because you guys don't

33:08

you guys don't work together a ton Right?

33:10

You have worked together for sure. No?

33:13

We have. We have Yacht director. She's directed

33:15

me. We've we've and and we've done a little bit acting

33:17

together. But you know, I think

33:19

that you're making the

33:21

point it's true people

33:23

think that

33:26

because of the distance and the distance is

33:28

hard and because you have two actors. think in

33:30

a lot of people's minds, they think, well, there are two

33:32

actors So the first thing their mind

33:34

goes to is like sex scenes or

33:36

love scenes or kissing other people or all those kinds

33:38

of things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then And

33:41

and so so that's what goes in

33:43

people's minds. And then they think, well,

33:46

most Hollywood relations break up. And here's

33:48

the thing. Most marriages break up. Marriage sucks.

33:50

Merraries doesn't work. Let's face it.

33:52

The statistics are absolutely terrible. That's

33:54

our collective opinion. I don't care. We got it. Thanks,

33:57

Kevin. you can't -- Right. Exactly. --

33:59

there you go. I'm fine I'm fine going on directly

34:01

with that because these are just numbers,

34:04

you know. Yeah. You you can't but can't

34:06

prove to me that you know,

34:08

two dentists have

34:11

more successful marriages than two actors.

34:13

I I don't know that that statistic really, you

34:15

know, Right. That being said, I

34:17

will say that we

34:20

do plane trains

34:23

and automobiles. to try

34:25

to get to each other as

34:27

often as is physically

34:30

personal as well. Yeah. with the emphasis

34:32

on physical. Yeah. Yeah. And with

34:34

the and with the kids growing up, I'm sure

34:36

the the kids put in another element

34:39

of complication and challenge and

34:41

and that's tough to do as well. Right? I

34:43

mean, I'm I'm all this is just projection. But

34:46

it's it's a again, for the military

34:48

family, I mean, professional athletes and all this, you'd

34:50

see that that distance that Vagabond

34:52

-- The astronauts. -- and the sorry, the astronauts.

34:56

You guys know you guys know you've been married long

34:58

time. Yeah. The kids. This

35:01

is what I think. I have not. Yeah. I mean,

35:03

my yeah. I know. My my

35:07

my kids Well,

35:09

they they they were raised in

35:11

in New York and

35:15

they I think that there's challenges

35:18

to having to, you know, famous

35:20

people as parents that

35:23

are just inherent and I

35:25

wish that I wish that wasn't true in a funny

35:27

kind of way. You you think to yourself well.

35:30

Karen and I have no one to blame, but ourselves

35:33

for for being famous, but the kids, it was kind

35:35

of thrust upon them in

35:37

a in a way. Right? They did they didn't

35:39

ask for for this. And there's a

35:41

there is weird moment where

35:43

they start to, you know, for the first

35:45

time they start to go. You're holding a

35:47

kid's hand. And someone comes up

35:49

and wants to, you know, take a picture

35:52

or an autograph, you have to let that kid's

35:54

hand go. Right. Yeah.

35:56

You know? Yeah. And the kid the kid's like,

35:58

what the fuck? I don't even know this guy. Right.

36:00

Like, who is this? This stranger, you

36:02

know, stranger danger. By the way, you've brought them all

36:04

But that's the moment. It's an important lesson for them

36:06

to learn when you left their hand go, which is what

36:08

you're saying is

36:10

my celebrity is more important to me than you.

36:13

And I need to know that. Just take a breath

36:15

of breath. gotta do something. Yeah. You know it's funny.

36:18

You know it's funny. I just got back to where I was on the east

36:20

Coast last summer. We're we're out on Long Island.

36:22

Deaf and Long Island and the Bay Station

36:25

Crazy. And so it's so bizarre.

36:27

caller. No. Thanks, man. Yeah.

36:29

And She's just running the bowling alley out there.

36:31

Yeah. No. I'm just I'm just I work

36:33

on diesel engines. Yeah. work on diesel engines.

36:36

Yeah. So maybe I already told you this, but

36:38

I was in the car officer Fisherman Yeah.

36:41

Checking my pots every day out there. And

36:44

so, anyway, so I'm getting in the car

36:46

with the kids in town and and this guy

36:48

comes up and blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

36:52

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

36:54

Blah. The best part is now people come up and

36:56

they're like, hey, tell bateman, blah, blah,

36:58

blah, blah, blah, and Scott ain't like, hey, you don't know

37:00

them. So shut the fuck up. But

37:03

but they go guy says all this stuff. So then I

37:06

get in the car and my son who's twelve just turned

37:08

twelve. He's behind me and we I pull out of the parking

37:10

spot in town and he's kinda quiet in the car and he

37:12

just goes, hey, Will, you're a legend

37:14

man. And I go, hey, man.

37:16

He starts he starts healing

37:19

me from the back me from the backside.

37:22

Gran has been like this. And I'm like,

37:24

dude, I know it's weird. I didn't. I'm sorry.

37:27

Keep me real. And then keep me real. And I

37:29

was like, but was also happy that

37:31

he had that kind of -- Yeah. --

37:33

great kind of perspective on that. You know

37:35

what I mean? Like, it was kind of

37:37

Great. And you made fun of me, which is great.

37:39

Oh, yeah. They get a they get a really serious

37:41

bullshit meter very very early on.

37:43

Mhmm. because they can see it, you know, from the people

37:46

that are surrounding their lives, you know. Yeah. And

37:48

and and the other thing is I, you know, I

37:50

feel like to a certain extent,

37:52

you you can't beat yourself up too

37:55

much about it because that's what you do. That's what you do. Yeah.

37:57

That's what you do. So so other people

37:59

have other

37:59

challenges. Yeah.

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So Kevin, how is this summer. Yeah.

43:12

What what did you do anything super exciting

43:14

this summer? Was it nice and chill and relaxed

43:16

and just played that guitar in your in the

43:18

in your shot there?

43:20

I was I

43:22

was spending a lot of time with a

43:25

farm and so I was spending a lot of time with the

43:27

animals and I riding, you know,

43:29

pretty much every day. And -- Yes.

43:31

-- and I was some out with

43:33

my brother touring, my my band, with my brother

43:36

Yeah. I was gonna ask about that also about

43:38

that. on the road now. So we've

43:40

been playing we did we

43:42

were on one little run, and I I got

43:45

got the lid. So we had the shutdown.

43:48

And then we we picked up your

43:50

time with that easy or Yeah. It wasn't

43:52

it wasn't great. It wasn't great,

43:54

but it it was not you know, I didn't go

43:56

to hospital or anything. Yeah. So that was great.

43:59

And

43:59

then now we're out

44:02

doing a little bit more play. I

44:04

did a I did a movie, like,

44:07

yeah, movie, maybe couple of, like,

44:10

Carol. I know. This is amazing.

44:12

Like like, of course, he did. Yeah. Like,

44:15

he's like, I did a movie. Yeah. Of

44:17

course. Maybe I did two. I know maybe

44:19

I did two. I can't even remember. Just

44:21

a three month period recovering here. What

44:23

was the thing for you who

44:26

are the people that you kind of

44:29

looked up to, like, creatively? Who are the

44:31

guys? Like, when you were a teenager, you're like, I

44:33

want I I like this shit or I like that stuff.

44:35

Like, is the man? Directors or actors?

44:37

Who is the Kevin Bacon? Yeah. Who is your Kevin

44:40

Bacon? Yeah. Sure. Well,

44:42

you know,

44:43

for me,

44:44

It was okay. So I moved

44:47

to New York, which is

44:49

kinda when I think of my

44:51

career as starting. around

44:55

nineteen seventy six. Did you

44:57

see a lot of theater there? I did

44:58

a lot of theater. Yeah. A lot of a lot of

45:00

theater. And animal

45:03

house, I think I started in nineteen

45:05

seventy eight, something like that. Was

45:08

that your first film, animal house? That

45:10

was my first that was my first movie yet. Wow. But

45:12

but I can tell you that the people at

45:14

that point to me it was the

45:16

movies and the people

45:18

surrounding Sidney Lamet.

45:21

Yeah. Francis Ford Copola, Michael

45:25

Chimino, So, you know,

45:28

De Nero and and Picchino

45:30

and Meryl Streep and Ralph Julia

45:32

and and, you know, John

45:34

Casoud and and

45:36

all of those those gritty kind

45:39

of like Dustin

45:41

Hoffman. I mean, really, when I one of

45:43

the most influential things. Yeah.

45:45

Yeah. For me was I saw

45:48

back to back, we had a a dollar. In

45:50

Philly, we had a dollar second

45:52

run theater was a you could you could

45:54

see films for a dollar. And

45:56

back to back,

45:58

they had the graduate and

46:02

midnight cowboy. Now when

46:04

I saw when I saw Dustin

46:06

in that, I I looked at midnight

46:09

cowboy first. that was the first one

46:11

that that I saw because they were all

46:13

both in second run. And

46:15

I went, wow, where did they get

46:17

that homeless guy to be in the movie. A

46:20

cowboy. Where did they get a cowboy and a homeless guy? How

46:23

did they get them to actually do this? And

46:25

then right after Cut to the preppy guy.

46:27

Cut to the preppy guy. And I went, holy

46:29

shit. That's what acting is. And that's

46:32

the thing. Did

46:33

you have a group of friends though that

46:35

at that time in in high school who were

46:37

in that same mindset as you? Or were

46:39

you, like, alone in this old, like,

46:41

your own thing? I was alone in

46:43

my own head about that. Yeah. Yeah. The

46:45

only thing is I had I had this one kid

46:48

who I was friends with, who was

46:51

wealthy and his father

46:54

had something that was unheard of, which

46:56

was a giant home

46:58

video system. And I

47:01

think it like, it couldn't have been VHS.

47:03

It must have been some other, like, really, really

47:06

Are like are like laser disc? Remember laser

47:08

disc? No. This is before the That was way four laser

47:10

disc. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was a seventy two. Yeah.

47:13

And he was wrecked. He turned me on

47:15

he turned me on to he

47:18

was obsessed with brando and Clifton

47:20

Dean and the and the the switch

47:22

in in style of acting

47:24

that that existed there. So So he

47:27

was the only pro he wasn't an actor, but

47:29

he was he was a a

47:31

strange kind of movie buff. So I kinda

47:33

got started getting to that stuff. But

47:35

but, yeah, those were my those were my people.

47:38

With

47:38

all of that and I these guys will make fun of

47:40

me because I asked question all the time. But with all of

47:42

that experience, that said experience,

47:44

all the hundreds and hundreds of directors

47:46

you report. What about directing? No. He

47:48

has directed. And my question is,

47:51

do you do you not like

47:53

it as much as acting? given

47:56

all that you've absorbed, you do not find

47:58

it that

48:00

it demands all those things

48:02

that you've absorbed beyond just the

48:04

acting? Well,

48:05

someday I wanna, you know,

48:07

really set you down and sound you on,

48:09

you know, on your great work as

48:11

a director, but also in your great work as directing

48:14

yourself, which

48:16

is is something that I find really

48:18

kind of incredibly I've

48:20

done it a little bit. I direct

48:22

the city on a hill, but But, you

48:25

know, I I find that

48:27

really kind of like mind blowing and

48:29

people can do that well. But you're you're aware

48:31

of how you're performing while you're performing. Right?

48:34

you're sort of self directing the whole time. Aren't

48:36

you? When when when you do your thing? Yeah.

48:38

Yeah. Yeah. I am

48:40

I think it's less about knowing

48:43

if I got it or not and

48:45

more about just the overwhelming consumptive

48:49

thing that happens to you when you have to direct

48:51

and you have to answer, you know, questions from dawn

48:54

to dusk and then beyond, you know,

48:56

just having all that kind of responsibility and

48:58

then also being able to a hundred

49:00

percent throw yourself into into the

49:03

role. I I would like to direct

49:05

more. It's it's it's but as you

49:07

know, when it comes to a film, you

49:09

know, that's a easy year of your life.

49:11

Yeah. Done. Right? Yeah. So so

49:13

I I keep getting these acting gigs that

49:15

I go, oh, man. But that's like, I haven't

49:17

I haven't been that guy yet. So -- Yeah.

49:20

-- I I really I keep going back to

49:23

to to acting, but you know,

49:25

it it'll it'll happen again. Yeah. Yeah.

49:28

Do you ever develop forgive me because

49:30

I I think I should know how to answer. I don't know if

49:32

I could help you. Until I hear

49:34

what it is. Oh, you're asking, Kevin. Okay.

49:36

Yeah. He's forgotten his name. Mister

49:38

Bacon, do you develop

49:41

stuff of yours for do you develop your own

49:43

thing for yourself? Like, roles for yourself? And

49:45

do you enjoy doing that? Or is that like a big headache?

49:47

I love that. I love that. I

49:49

really do. Yeah. I do. I'm always

49:52

looking for books,

49:54

stories, ideas. We have

49:57

something that we're working on

49:59

now. Kieran and I are both involved

50:01

and it's little bit of a secret, but we're Yeah.

50:05

III really do. I like I

50:07

like the development process. I mean, it can be

50:09

a little you know,

50:11

it can be a little frustrating as you all

50:13

know when you put a lot of time into something

50:15

and you go out, you take

50:17

it around town, it gets passed on all over town,

50:20

which happens, but but but we

50:22

still try to we still try to keep it going.

50:24

Okay. So now you've done you've done so many

50:26

different types

50:28

of character and whatever. I'm gonna ask you the most

50:30

basic question. Good

50:32

good guys or bad guys. What do you write what do

50:34

you like playing more? Well

50:36

because you do the boat so fucking

50:38

well. Yeah. Yeah. I

50:40

don't care. I mean, I don't care if the character

50:43

is well written, complicated,

50:46

interesting, character.

50:49

If he's a good guy or a bad guy, I don't care.

50:51

The thing that I don't do is

50:54

worry about what

50:56

the character does and how it's going to reflect

50:58

on me as a person. Yeah.

51:00

Like, I don't care at all what

51:03

people think of me image

51:05

wise. I really just want to be

51:07

known for the work. It's a little bit of a hassle

51:10

in in this career as as

51:12

as I've come to learn is that there is

51:14

this other thing outside of of the work

51:16

that I almost wish didn't even exist.

51:19

You know, if I could just go and

51:21

and present company excluded

51:23

if I could just go and and and just

51:26

do the say the lines and hit the marks and and

51:28

not have to do any of the the rest of it.

51:31

I I would. But

51:33

when it comes to taking

51:35

on things that are

51:37

people that do horrible shit or

51:41

are, you know, I've done a lot of terrible

51:43

terrible things in the characters

51:45

that I've played. That

51:47

doesn't scare me at all. I I

51:49

so it's not so much that the

51:51

character's good or bad as it is.

51:55

you know, are they complex? Are

51:57

they different than the guy that I just

51:59

played?

51:59

You know, is there is there

52:02

just good shit? The play. I mean, you know, you

52:04

guys know. Right. Do you do you ever get close to

52:06

thinking about? Yeah. You know what? I've done enough

52:08

of this. What about full time music

52:10

now? Yeah. I'm taking brothers. You ever get

52:12

you ever get close to that?

52:14

No. I still really love being an actor.

52:16

Yeah. You know? And the music you love,

52:18

love doing. Right? I love the music.

52:20

I love the music and and we we've

52:23

just, you know, put out new music. I've

52:25

been I've been doing lot of writing I

52:29

continue to write, you know, it's

52:31

one of those things where what

52:33

really keeps driving the band

52:35

is not so much the desire

52:38

to I mean, people would find this

52:40

hard to believe, but it's not really that that

52:42

I wanna be a rockstar fantasy. Definitely,

52:44

that was in in there when I was kid

52:47

for sure. All my heroes had guitars.

52:49

That was the that was the deal when I

52:51

was, like, in my early teens. But,

52:55

you know, you write a song and then,

52:57

you know, you played your song for your wife and

53:00

then you play a song for your

53:02

brother and then you wanna put it out in front of

53:04

people and then you wanna cut it. So if

53:06

if the song rating keeps coming, you

53:08

know, that's that's just really what drives Yeah.

53:10

I love that. And it's you and your brother, Michael. Right? Is

53:12

that yeah. Me and my brother, Mike. Yeah.

53:15

Yeah. We we put the band together

53:17

probably in nineteen ninety five. He was he's

53:19

about nine years older than me, and he's a

53:22

musician. He's a composer. He's a can

53:24

arrange. He writes he's got,

53:26

you know, awards. He he's like a

53:29

a classically trained musician on just the plunkers.

53:31

I love that. Yeah. Wait a minute. How many kids

53:33

in your fam in your family?

53:35

six. I'm the youngest of six. I'm the youngest

53:37

of five. I have a brother named Kevin and Michael.

53:39

Who are your other siblings? Uh-oh.

53:41

Wow. We have four

53:43

sisters. Yeah. Four

53:45

sisters. My my sister Karen,

53:48

my sister Eleanor, Hilda,

53:50

and in Kira, who's

53:53

she changed the name to Kira spelled

53:55

slightly differently than my wife because

53:57

my parents were terrible name givers and

54:00

then they named her prudence. And

54:02

she was, like, probably about, I don't know,

54:04

eighteen, nineteen. She was, like, fuck this.

54:06

burdens are you kidding me? I wasn't

54:09

gonna say that your parents are terrible name givers ever. I was

54:11

just gonna say that I remarked that both of you

54:13

and your brother in you go, Kevin.

54:15

You like Kevin. He likes Mike instead of Michael

54:17

and Kevin. So Yeah. That's

54:19

no No. That they were they were not

54:21

good. they were not good with the names. They were not

54:23

good with the names. What were their names?

54:26

Their names were Edmund and Ruth.

54:29

Our kids are named Travis and

54:31

SOCI, and you'll get a kick

54:33

out of this. Both names came off

54:35

of crew lists when CUR was pregnant.

54:38

So Oh, really? Yeah.

54:40

She was shooting something pregnant and we just

54:42

we we found out she's pregnant. We just

54:44

go down in the crew list and Pick

54:46

nate. Personal way.

54:48

JC. Jason, you can relate to

54:51

this. So, right, Sophie Sophie. Sophie.

54:53

Sophie. I know. And she's a great actress. It's

54:55

amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. She's

54:57

she's doing great. I love her. I'm a big fan of

55:00

her day. That's but that's so awesome that you and your

55:02

brother have this this connection with something

55:04

you both love and that you get to do together.

55:07

I love that idea that you guys have been sort

55:09

of doing

55:10

it for long time. Yeah.

55:12

And I wanna see you guys play. I know I know

55:14

we should speak to music. Sean, I can't wait

55:16

to hear your see your show? Is coming

55:18

into New York? Thanks. Yeah. That's very nice of you.

55:20

Yeah. Good night, Oscar. It opens at it's

55:22

at the Glasgow Theatre, and we open April

55:24

seventh The Blasco Theatre. Good to be so excited.

55:27

Blasco Theatre on tickets. April seven.

55:30

reception. Opening the Blasco later session

55:32

twenty twenty three, I think. WWW

55:35

Listen, Kevin Kevin Thank you, Kevin.

55:37

Kevin, what about if you and Mike write a musical

55:39

for Sean? That would be something. Right?

55:41

There you go. Come on. I'm right. Whoa. Whoa. You'd

55:43

have to be in it. How do you feel about rock

55:45

musical? Or do you feel like do

55:48

you like singing rock? Yeah. I mean, kinda it's

55:50

kinda what I'm saying. tomorrow, Sean. Real quick first,

55:52

just because we can't get through that. Baking

55:54

in the morning. Baking in the evening.

55:56

Baking off summer night. Oh,

55:59

it's funny you're

55:59

singing about bacon, but it seems like your your brain

56:02

is filled with scrambled eggs because that was terrible.

56:04

Hey, Listen, Kev,

56:06

we have Horrible. That was horrible. Hey, it was

56:09

horrible. We've been allies your time. I feel like we

56:11

could talk to you for about three hours. You're just

56:13

a good dude in You are the greatest.

56:15

I wish our paths across we'd cross

56:17

paths more, but hopefully we will in the future, man.

56:19

You're just you're a good dude and you're so good

56:21

at what you you. Thank you, guys. Thank you for doing

56:23

this, Kevin. Thank you. We love you

56:26

so much. Bye, pal. Bye, pal.

56:28

Okay, pal. Peace. Alright, man. Bye.

56:32

He's somewhere else, Yeah. Or KBags.

56:34

Love him. KBags. KBags. We

56:37

start that. top mouse. Yeah. We're starting KBags

56:39

right now. By the way, if you see if you happen

56:41

to see Kevin on the street, old CapEx, just

56:43

go up to say, hey, CapEx, you know. Feel

56:45

free to see you again. We

56:47

have got to start that. If you're see Kevin

56:50

Bacon on the street too. Hey, K Bakes.

56:52

What up K Bakes? It's like cupcakes. Yeah.

56:56

What's We need to bake cupcakes with his

56:58

face on it. Man, how many so

57:00

how many films has he done? Willy? You said a

57:02

whole page is Yeah. He has his own I

57:05

wonder if he's hit a he's probably hit a hundred. He

57:07

has I'm gonna say A

57:10

hundred movies. So that

57:12

would mean

57:13

so he's been in the business since

57:15

he was fifteen. What do you think he is now? It won't listen

57:17

to me. fifty three. Do you think he's

57:19

sixty yet? What's

57:21

his what's his When he looks to me no.

57:23

I I know how old he is, and you try to guess

57:25

because he looks incredible.

57:27

Well, I find fifty three,

57:29

then he's he might not yet be sixty, but

57:31

he's older than I am. Sean, what do you think? I

57:32

was gonna say late fifties.

57:35

Are you ready for this?

57:36

I'm ready. Sixty four. Wow.

57:39

Yeah. Alright. So then he's been doing it for

57:41

fifty years. You've been

57:42

doing since nineteen seven what do you say?

57:44

Nineteen seventy six was his first acting

57:47

gig. Nineteen seventy six when he did that ROTC.

57:49

Right. So we're coming up on fifty years.

57:51

Yeah. Right? Yeah. That's a And

57:53

so that's two two films a year. He's probably

57:56

done a hundred films. I love

57:57

what he was like, I think I did two films

57:59

last year.

57:59

I know he can't. is I think that's like

58:02

like a baseball player, you know, three thousand hits

58:04

or something. I think if you do a hundred movies,

58:06

that that is There's no bail award a

58:08

movie And and and also television,

58:10

and he's done series in there too. Yeah. But all and

58:12

and the movies I mean, he's worked with everybody.

58:15

very leavened. There's reason that's six

58:17

degrees of Kevin Bacon. Right? Yeah.

58:19

Yeah. That's I don't think you can do that about it. You know, when I

58:21

was really happy that we didn't bring that up, I was

58:23

too. I was very proud of the man. And how exhausted

58:26

he is hearing about that? Yeah. Yeah. But but don't

58:28

you kinda wanna talk about it? I did made up for

58:30

it with the footloose references. Yeah. I know.

58:32

Well, I know it's straight away with the fact that

58:34

you paid off stuff. I'm not doing,

58:36

you know. Hey, man. So

58:39

you lose a bunch of dough. Hey. This

58:41

is the subject I'm sure you wanna talk

58:43

about. Yeah. In in minute five.

58:45

Yeah. I was just curious.

58:47

That was your biggest disappointment. Wait. What

58:49

about the guest? What are you doing, Sean?

58:52

I thought I was I was actually genuine agent.

58:54

I'm sure there's other people that are genuinely interested.

58:56

What he did, Kevin, when he got on the hair, did he

58:58

clip part of the brain out? What happened? Did he?

59:01

Have you got a leak back here? What

59:03

happened? The only leak is my

59:06

Swedish fish leak. Yeah.

59:08

Oh. Get a clamp on that.

59:11

Oh, gosh. Everybody thinking about

59:13

a buy. Here it comes. Well, yeah. I'm

59:15

just gonna it's just gonna It's

59:18

got something to do with Swedish

59:21

fish, and it builds up in the back there into big

59:23

lump. You might wanna get it. Bye. see.

59:25

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