0:06

Hey!

0:06

You

0:11

know, what? That's

0:13

that reminds me. We don't have we have a buy but

0:15

we don't we don't really have a. Hello

0:20

and an opening? Alright, we

0:22

should start doing that. Because

0:24

I'm like, hello? You've seen the prices oh I heard.

0:28

I can hear the listeners. Welcome to smart list.

0:48

You. Oh my. Oh

0:52

my God. Oh my

0:54

God. Most

1:00

meek laugh you can do Will. Go ahead.

1:03

Okay.

1:05

Sean meek laugh. Yeah.

1:09

Don't. I can't just

1:11

blow your nose. We're recording. Talk

1:15

about wait. I didn't say do the most meek

1:18

nose blowing you can do. You

1:21

nailed it. Yeah. I

1:23

sneezed right before I came out. But how about every time every time you

1:25

have like a slight cough or how about every

1:28

time you sneeze in public now anybody

1:30

who anybody freaks to everybody they look at you like

1:32

what's your problem why are you even out of the house.

1:35

I'm like well people they look

1:37

at you like you're a war criminal. You're like

1:39

what but I guess I'm guilty of that too. I

1:41

know if somebody coughs more than once.

1:44

Right if they cough twice I'm like

1:47

I give them I try to get eye contact with them like

1:49

are you okay. Is it is this something

1:51

I need to worry about or. I

1:54

still get surprised at the people who

1:56

cough and don't especially after everything we've been

1:58

through he's still just. Just cover your mouth, that's

2:01

all I ask. Yeah, or just into the shirt. I

2:03

used to think into the shirt was super gross, but

2:05

you know what? It's a nice gesture. It'll

2:07

leave a spot, but it's better than getting

2:09

someone sick. Well, it depends on the shirt, right?

2:12

And the blood content in your cough. I

2:15

mean, what do you mean, a spot? I

2:18

had a friend over last night that he was waiting.

2:20

He was like congested and I'm like, why

2:22

did you come over? He's like, I'm not sick, I'm not sick. Yeah,

2:24

and look, you woke up blowing your nose. So I

2:27

just had a sneeze. Was it at least worth it, Sean?

2:29

You old war horse. What was

2:31

his name? Scotty was out. That's stupid.

2:34

What? We

2:37

missed you all weekend, Sean. I know. Did

2:40

you go Sunday? Yeah, we went Sunday. I didn't go

2:42

Sunday because granddad pulled his back. He pulled

2:44

his back. Everybody was

2:46

calling into question whether everybody kept going.

2:48

Yeah, just pulled his back.

2:51

No, it's not great. I

2:53

was, I'm ashamed

2:56

to say it is a golf injury. I

2:59

was simply leaning over to address

3:01

the ball about to swing, not even

3:03

swinging and it just slid out. Yeah,

3:06

that's painful. But

3:08

then Dion Feneuf, our incredible

3:11

friend, love to golf for NHL

3:14

star gave me some of his

3:17

CBD cream. I use that. Let's

3:20

plug it right now. It's

3:21

a canny, right? Canny

3:24

E's or canny something. Get it right. Because

3:26

you're now you're plugging Dion's. I

3:29

think it's called canny golf.

3:31

Can I can I, 1200? Can

3:34

you not pull his back out over 50? I

3:36

mean, I'm going to get the right word there, the

3:38

right title. And we're going to, we're going to plug it

3:40

properly. I mean, do you think the fact that you were just addressing

3:43

the ball, obviously you're brittle and

3:45

you have no nutrients in your body. Do you think that that

3:47

is of concern to

3:49

you? Are you worried about snapping some of your

3:51

limbs at any point? I mean, you have, you

3:54

have, there's literally nothing holding you together

3:56

anymore. Right? True. I

3:58

wish I was as thin as you.

3:59

I think I am. We saw a guy shot. At

4:02

least as thin as I should be for the lack

4:05

of food. I mean. Sean, do you remember this? About

4:07

a year ago we were playing with Chuck Day

4:09

and Mackleany and those guys up there in the Valley.

4:11

And we, there's a guy on this other, on

4:13

this other hole. I don't know, maybe 92, 93.

4:18

And he was just, God bless him. He's making his way around

4:20

this guy, this old, old, old timer. And

4:23

he shuffled up to the ball and he was leaning over

4:25

and I just look over and I point and Jason

4:28

just goes,

4:29

that's not me motherfucker. I

4:31

go, yeah it is. That's

4:33

you. That's you

4:35

now. Jason, you are so thin.

4:38

What are you talking about? I am so not, what are

4:40

you talking about? I'm sorry but I see you. I'm sorry but I

4:42

see you. You're very thin.

4:44

Yeah. No, I just don't have any muscle mass cause

4:46

I'm not out there. Not like blasting

4:48

backs and buys on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

4:51

Pushing weight you fool. Well you jarred. Why

4:53

don't you? Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, lifting weight. Yeah, yeah,

4:56

moving weight has, there's no science that says

4:58

it's good for you as you get older. Oh, hang on a second,

5:00

look it up. By the way, here's

5:02

an update on the sweaters. I talked

5:04

to Alex

5:06

and. Wait, we're moving

5:08

on to sweaters? Well remember we

5:10

talked about my mom knitting sweaters for you

5:12

guys. Oh yeah. And so I guess she heard.

5:14

How does that get to do with pushing weight?

5:16

We're just talking about getting older cause you'll hear why.

5:19

And she says, okay well listen, she

5:21

texts me out of the blue as she does. Just

5:23

apropos of nothing. I'm gonna need sizes and

5:25

blah blah blah. And I'm gonna guess that Sean

5:28

is a little slighter, a little slimmer than Jason.

5:30

Oh God no. She just mixed up

5:33

the names, that's all. That's all. No

5:35

that's all. It's just that like Sean looks slimmer.

5:39

And you're right, I mean you are, and I will go

5:41

on record saying you're very skinny and stuff but you

5:43

just, you're never gonna lose that

5:45

look. You have

5:46

the look. Yeah. You're

5:51

so right, that's the problem. I

5:53

wasn't born with a beautifully angled

5:56

face like you with great bone structure

5:58

and strong superhero.

5:59

And I am I am

6:02

doughy. I am round. I am I am

6:05

I came out puffy. Okay. No,

6:08

you didn't you didn't you

6:10

both have chiseled good-looking faces By

6:15

the way, you want to talk about a chiseled

6:17

good-looking face here we go Let

6:21

me tell you something guest you better not look puffy

6:23

after that intro he check your lighting

6:25

right now worry He won't I've never

6:28

seen him look puffy and I've never seen him look

6:29

bad. It's impossible for him and he is Just

6:34

and he's maintained it for so long

6:36

which is really admirable on top of which the

6:38

really most admirable thing about him Is that how well

6:41

he's maintained a career? Spent

6:44

decades for decades. This

6:46

guy has been at the top

6:49

of the list It is unbelievable

6:52

We knew when we were kids again

6:55

again, we know him So I can't I got to be

6:57

really careful because I just want to get a little bit out

6:59

before you guys start Before you start guessing

7:02

you don't know Robert Pattinson and he doesn't

7:04

want to know you their face I know but

7:06

he has no interest in seeing you but this guy

7:09

Robert even Robert Pattinson looks up

7:11

to this guy Well, I'm just this guy has done everything

7:14

He's done every the topic

7:16

a film and television

7:19

He's done some of the most iconic films some of the most iconic

7:21

television He's been nominated

7:24

for two Emmys six Golden Globes four

7:26

sag awards, which he's won

7:29

two He's started so

7:31

many 80s classics He

7:33

was part of what was then known

7:36

as here we go the brat pack

7:39

He's been insane almost bars about last

7:41

night Parks

7:43

and Recreation it's

7:44

our friend

7:49

Beautiful man Wait

7:51

a minute. Why are you on set right now? He's in a cop.

7:53

Listen, he's got a cop uniform on yeah

7:55

It's it's a fireman's uniform. Yes Fireman,

7:59

sorry

7:59

I told the whole crew. I

8:02

said, I gotta go see my boys. I gotta go

8:06

see my guys. This is so lovely. He's on

8:08

the set of 911 Lone Star, which

8:11

is the show that he stars in. And he produces in your

8:13

fourth season, you're shooting your fifth season

8:15

maybe?

8:16

We are almost done with season

8:18

four. Almost done with season four, unbelievable. I

8:20

see clips of that show and I'm tired

8:23

looking at, like I guess it looks like

8:25

a 15 hour episode, you rude bastard.

8:28

What? I'm watching a full episode, not

8:30

the clips. Yeah, watch the episodes. Don't watch

8:32

the clips. No, no, like the promos. I mean

8:34

the promos and I see your face and I'm like,

8:36

God, Rob just finished a 15 hour day on that

8:39

episode. Like it just looks so

8:41

like tons of oil. Do you sleep in olive oil, Rob?

8:44

Is there a mattress that's

8:46

got a zip in olive oil pouch

8:48

that you sleep into? I know, look at the best skin

8:50

in the world.

8:52

I'm an Olympic sleeper. I think we've

8:54

talked about, I get a lot

8:57

of sleep. I have shame

8:59

around how much I sleep because

9:01

it

9:02

makes me seem like a good man. So you still sleep like you're a teenager?

9:04

Yes. How many hours is that? I do. What

9:07

time are you in the rack every night, Rob? Well,

9:10

today I had to be in the car at 5.15 in the morning. Now,

9:15

but as you know, I live in Santa Barbara and

9:17

I'm lucky enough to be driven so

9:20

I can sleep in the car. So I get an extra hour

9:23

and a half in the car, but I was

9:26

in bed

9:28

at 9.30 last night.

9:33

And then you're up it. So what time are you getting up

9:35

for a 5.15, get in the car? Truly?

9:40

5.14, because I don't really wanna. Now you're gonna

9:43

get my typical morning questions

9:45

now. And I'm gonna try to keep this clean. Oh

9:47

boy, there he goes. Well, but hang on now. Why

9:50

are you leaving the house without a shower

9:52

or without emptying yourself? You're

9:54

doing that in your trailer?

9:57

All of that? I don't.

9:59

I don't do the morning shower. I

10:02

do the nighttime shower.

10:04

Nice. I get that. I do the

10:06

nighttime shower. So then what do you do about your bed head

10:08

then? You let the people in the

10:11

makeup hair trailer do all that? That's

10:13

what the professionals are for. Isn't it

10:15

nice that they can hold it, Sean? You can

10:17

save yourself an hour if

10:22

you don't do makeup and

10:25

you do your own hair before you leave the house.

10:27

How does it save me an hour? That costs me an hour.

10:30

That means I have to wake up earlier. Yeah, that's true. God,

10:32

that's great math. Isn't it nice to take

10:35

a shower at night?

10:36

It makes you feel like a kid. I

10:38

sometimes take a shower, put my pajamas on, watch

10:41

TV and then you go straight to bed. Brush your teeth, go to bed. Yeah,

10:44

now I look forward to going to sleep. I'm like, I'm

10:46

gonna be in the bathroom. I do love that. Now,

10:48

Rob, you're an incredibly

10:51

talented actor. You can't get this

10:53

far without being a really good actor.

10:56

Did it ever

10:57

bother you that like, it

10:59

seems like the only people that get real good

11:01

accolades as an actor are those that look

11:04

like character actors. You don't, you look

11:06

like a leading man. Was it ever frustrating

11:08

to you that you didn't get the character roles because

11:10

you were born with leading man looks?

11:13

Well, first of all, thank you for saying

11:15

that. And I do feel like

11:18

I'm a character actor trapped

11:20

in a leading man's body. Well, look at Austin

11:22

Powers. You were hysterical in Austin Powers. Well,

11:24

thank you. It was a long list. And when

11:26

I get to,

11:28

Johnny

11:31

Depp's made a career of not, he's so

11:33

handsome, but he always wears prosthetics and stuff. And so

11:35

he gets to do these insane

11:38

characters. And every time

11:40

I've been able to do that, I've found

11:42

it very freeing. But

11:45

yeah.

11:46

Let's talk about that. Cause your trajectory

11:49

is been, it's so

11:51

hard. Everybody's got their own sort of path that they

11:53

have, but yours is gone through so

11:56

many different areas. And I was, a

11:58

lot of people have peaks and valleys.

11:59

You haven't even had any valleys. It's just been sort of

12:02

like from peak to peak and you've just kind of jumped.

12:04

You started in, and I mentioned sort of the brat

12:06

pack, but you started in, was the Outsiders

12:09

your first big film? Was my

12:11

first movie period.

12:13

I mean, I... Okay, so talk

12:15

about that. Talk about that process, how you got

12:17

it and how it came about and what

12:19

it was like. I mean, Jesus.

12:21

I wish you guys had been in that mix.

12:25

You would have, it was an incredible

12:28

thing and all of us who

12:30

went through it are like bonded or like band

12:33

of brothers because Coppola

12:35

put us through such an arduous,

12:37

insane, and I think actually illegal

12:40

screen actors, Guild-wise type

12:43

of boot camp. Really?

12:47

Went on for months, months and months and months, mixing

12:50

and matching. And you'd go into the soundstage and

12:52

there'd be like Mickey Rourke

12:55

with roller skates on, stinking

12:57

like an animal and being

13:00

treated like he was the Marlon Brando

13:02

reincarnated. And then you'd have Scott

13:05

Baio

13:06

coming in in a limousine and telling

13:08

Francis he had to get back to his show and

13:11

Francis going, what show? And

13:13

he goes, happy days. And Francis going, what's that?

13:15

Oh my God. And then you'd have like

13:18

Ricky Schroeder and Dennis Quaid

13:22

and I mean, just anybody and

13:24

ever everybody.

13:27

So he was doing like mixing and matching or were these

13:30

like kind of forced bonding kind of

13:32

chemistry reads? The

13:35

forced bonding came later, but these were

13:37

mixing matches with everybody present. So

13:40

you showed up, everybody showed up at eight o'clock in

13:42

the morning and you left at

13:44

seven o'clock at night and you just sat

13:47

on the floor and he would

13:49

go, okay, I wanna see Dennis Quaid

13:51

with Henry Thomas

13:55

and Ricky Schroeder and

13:58

whatever. Wow, that's wild.

13:59

Wow. What was the name of your character

14:02

again? Soda Pop. Soda

14:04

Pop. Soda Pop, yes. Soda Pop. You

14:06

know what's really cool about the Outsiders is

14:09

it's part

14:11

of the seventh grade curriculum of

14:13

almost every school in the country.

14:16

So every year there's a new group of seventh

14:18

graders who get introduced to not only

14:21

to the Outsiders,

14:22

but like, Soda Pop Curtis,

14:24

yay! So that's super cool. And

14:27

look at you now from Soda Pop to cop.

14:29

I literally just had a guy send

14:31

me a text this morning and he said, stay

14:34

gold, Pony Boy.

14:36

Oh. He literally said that on a text this

14:38

morning from Harry Chung, Will. Oh

14:41

yeah? Yeah. I like Harry. I

14:43

was about to lay in whoever did it, but I like Harry a lot. He's

14:45

a friend. Harry's a good man. He's a good

14:47

man. So, so. Wait, I remember when you were in contact.

14:50

I remember when you were in contact and it was like, that's

14:52

one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah, love

14:54

it. And I was like, and you showed up on screen. I was like,

14:56

wait, that's Rob Lowe. I was like, I

14:58

don't know, 22 years old when it came out or something.

15:01

I was like, wait, Rob Lowe is in this movie. That's

15:03

so crazy and amazing. Like you,

15:06

like to Will's point, you would take no peak,

15:08

just all peaks, right? No valleys. And you would

15:11

appear even if it was the smallest role or a leading role or

15:13

whatever. They were always seems at

15:15

the, at least the perception was that they were all super

15:17

high quality movies and TV shows. Totally.

15:20

And by the way, sometimes with Sean, Rob, as you

15:22

know, sometimes it's like having it like a kid come

15:24

in. Cause it just goes, I remember when you were in contact

15:27

and

15:27

you're like, okay, man, we're not just fucking

15:29

doing free form, just whatever pops into

15:31

our fucking head. Jesus

15:34

Christ. I

15:36

remember one time I saw you on a fucking what man?

15:39

Jesus. I

15:42

remember. I thought he had a billboard once. Nominated

15:44

for his question asking. Of the three of us, he

15:46

was nominated for the host

15:48

of the. Singled out. But Rob, but Rob,

15:51

you go get it. Singled out. Singled out. Pulled

15:53

out of the trifecta. No,

15:55

is this true? This is amazing.

15:57

It's true. 100% true. Best

16:00

host of a podcast. Well, there's three

16:02

of us, you know, no, just Sean. Just

16:04

Sean. That is the greatest

16:07

thing I've ever heard. Yeah. He didn't win.

16:10

Okay. That's the greatest thing I've ever heard. Why?

16:12

Missed it. Because they finally went and listened to it.

16:15

And then they were like, oh shit. Not him. You

16:18

know, cause you know, but Rob,

16:20

so you do like the outsiders and it is

16:22

true as Sean says, and what we were saying, which is like, you do

16:24

all these things that are amazing that have, that

16:27

each one of them have a place

16:29

in, you know, culturally a place in

16:31

our, everybody's lives, whether

16:34

it's, it's the outsiders

16:36

and then St. Elmo's fire. Which

16:39

I just

16:39

saw. I just watched it for the first time ever. Are you

16:42

serious? I swear to God, never saw it.

16:44

I watched it like a month ago. He's saying, are you serious that you're

16:46

just interrupting and getting with the blur? Sorry. So,

16:50

so you do the outsiders. What was, what was

16:52

film number two after the outsiders, which was

16:54

a big sensation.

16:56

And every, we all saw it. What was

16:58

the next thing? What was the move when

17:00

that came out? Was it like

17:02

you had everything offered to you?

17:04

All of us, all of us got a

17:06

lot of, a lot of offers. I mean, I think

17:09

Tom did the best with

17:12

it cause he followed it up with risky

17:15

business. And then that was,

17:17

you know, the beginning for him. I

17:20

did a movie called class with Andrew

17:22

McCarthy and Jacqueline Bissette. Yes, you

17:24

did. I know it well. Good

17:26

for you, Rob. All right. Great for you.

17:29

Okay.

17:30

Class act. I know what's going on there.

17:32

Okay, go ahead. No, no, no.

17:36

You don't have to admit to anything on this

17:38

podcast. You just keep going with your answer.

17:40

I thought. I have something I want to say about

17:42

contact after Will gets there. Holy

17:45

fuck. I

17:47

love that he's obsessed with contact. I had two

17:49

lines in it, but it's good movie. I'm

17:51

obsessed with you in it too. Clear. Obsessed

17:54

Will. Obsessed and it's his favorite movie of

17:56

all time. Go figure. Hey, listen,

17:58

Rob. So if you do.

17:59

Oh, God. Next to Star Trek. Sometimes

18:02

it's like, you just gotta breathe.

18:04

They're right. You just have to breathe. Finish

18:07

your juice box, Sean. So

18:09

Rob, so you do class with Andy McCarthy.

18:14

Jacqueline Bissette. Jacqueline Bissette.

18:17

And then what was

18:18

after? Then it's

18:20

Sean's favorite actor, Jodie

18:23

Foster. Yes. Can I say

18:25

something about that? In Hotel New Hampshire. And

18:27

Hotel New Hampshire was gonna be,

18:30

that was the one everybody, all the young actors

18:32

wanted to do because they thought it was gonna be Oscar type

18:35

movie. Because in those days, however

18:37

you want

18:39

to call them, Bratback movies, teen movies, John

18:41

Hughes movies, whatever you want to call them,

18:44

they were like

18:46

the guilty pleasure of the movie business.

18:49

Like today they'd be straight movies. There'd

18:51

be no guilt associated with them at

18:53

all. In fact, they'd be the tent pole.

18:56

But in those days, it was like,

18:58

terms of endearment is the real movie this

19:00

year. And oh, you're doing that

19:02

trifle over here. That's

19:05

the way it was.

19:06

That's what it was. It was very

19:08

segregated in that way. But Hotel New Hampshire

19:11

felt like a real movie.

19:14

Of course, then it came out the same weekend as Splash.

19:17

And that was the end of it. Oh, wow. Wasn't

19:20

that a John Irving book? It's a John Irving book. Yeah, yeah.

19:23

And it did. I remember when that came

19:25

out. What was that? There

19:27

he goes. Late 83.

19:33

Wow. I know I missed up on that one.

19:35

Usually I'm really good at movies. The different

19:36

inside the same decade

19:38

was just incredible. I

19:42

know that you're saying that these are the films that were

19:44

the trifle, but these were the films that people were going

19:47

to see, that all of us were going

19:49

to see. I

19:52

wasn't a huge student of the cinema

19:54

yet. And those

19:56

are the movies I wanted to go see. I wanted to go see you guys

19:58

in those. I wanted to go see Young

19:59

Youngblood, by the way, is a Canadian. Dude,

20:03

Rob, let's talk about Youngblood for a second.

20:07

Sean, quick five for us. Sure.

20:10

Yeah, go ahead. Rob, talk about it. Yeah, go

20:12

ahead. Youngblood is,

20:14

I think it might be the second best

20:17

hockey movie. First is Slapshot, let's face

20:19

it. Slapshot's one of the greatest movies ever made, period. Mighty Ducks,

20:21

Mighty Ducks, Mighty Ducks. No, I'm throwing

20:24

down. I'm sorry, I'm not having it. I'm

20:26

just not having it. I know, I'm with Rob. Now,

20:30

yeah, Youngblood is fun because whenever

20:32

I get to go to a hockey game,

20:34

people are super excited because

20:36

there aren't that many hockey movies.

20:38

There aren't that many, if you're a hockey fan, there aren't all that many, really.

20:41

No, dude, and we loved, as a Canadian,

20:43

we loved Youngblood. And I would

20:46

say this, Slapshot maybe

20:48

because it came before in Paul Newman, et cetera,

20:51

but they're kind of different, they fall

20:53

into different categories within hockey. So it's,

20:56

in terms of like a pure hockey movie, that's

20:58

not a comedy. Youngblood is the

21:00

best in that regard.

21:02

So they're very different. But anyway- Pure

21:04

hockey, pretty if you're a young hockey player. I

21:06

mean, everybody who's played hockey

21:09

has worn that

21:11

movie out because it's about coming up

21:13

into the league. Now, were you a good

21:15

skater? Were you playing hockey at

21:17

that time?

21:18

No. I was horrible. I mean,

21:21

I could Rockefeller Center date,

21:24

hold hands, skate. Right.

21:28

So it was the first time I ever

21:31

had a trainer or I had to work out. And

21:33

Swayze was my co-star Patrick Swayze. And we

21:36

trained every day

21:38

for, I went in almost eight weeks,

21:41

six hours a day. Brutal, brutal,

21:44

brutal training. And I got to be pretty good on skates at that

21:46

point. Wow. And

21:48

Keanu was in it too.

21:51

No, why? He was the goalie. He was the

21:53

goalie. I thought he was an actual French-Canadian

21:55

goalie.

21:56

He was, right? We had

21:58

him on the podcast. We just had him on the podcast. He

22:00

was a goalie, yeah. Yeah. There

22:02

you go. Someone listens. Do you remember interacting with

22:04

Keanu back then and thinking like, oh, this kid's gonna do

22:06

something? Like, did you have anything like that?

22:09

Will, I'm telling you, and this is no slight

22:11

to Keanu Reeves who I adore. I

22:14

thought he was a French Canadian goalie. Wow.

22:17

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22:20

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22:22

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27:31

Well, on the same sort of question on outsiders,

27:35

was it clear to you, or if

27:37

you had to bet on one of those horses to

27:40

have the kind of longevity that you ended

27:42

up having in your career, who did you think was going to be with

27:44

you? The pony boy would be the horse I bet on. The pony boy is

27:46

the horse I bet on.

27:48

Yeah, I mean, again,

27:51

and it's funny, Tom has obviously

27:54

become a legendary,

27:56

legendary actor, and I'm not sure you

27:59

would have. Um, back in

28:01

the day, but he had, he had such drive,

28:04

such a, he

28:05

had an intensity that none of us have. And

28:07

then taps, I think put him over the top, right?

28:10

Or was taps was right before taps

28:12

was, taps that made him. Yeah.

28:15

And he was so good in that move. I've got it. Taps

28:18

was my first Hollywood big Hollywood premiere.

28:20

That was that. I remember that movie really knocking

28:23

me out.

28:24

Yeah. Wait, can we go, like, go back to

28:26

the beginning of the contact? Sure. No,

28:31

I want, no, I want it. But like,

28:33

did it say, were you scared? Did

28:38

you think the ads were really coming up? He's

28:42

all hopped up on apple juice. Now go and let him

28:44

go.

28:46

Do it. No.

28:49

Well, no. Well, since you brought

28:51

it up at the content, but I want to know, I want to go back

28:54

before the outsiders, but

28:57

I just want to get this out about contact. My favorite line in

28:59

the movie. You

29:03

are the worst.

29:05

Go ahead.

29:06

The only person I know

29:08

to get drunk on apple juice.

29:10

Just swerving all

29:12

over the podcast. I am dying. I

29:15

can't. I can't pull over and take a nap. I

29:17

can't believe you're torturing Rob like

29:19

this. I wanted to get out my favorite

29:22

line in contact, which

29:24

was Jodie Foster and Matthew. Well,

29:27

I'm a kind of, it was in it. Yeah. Jodie

29:30

Foster, Matthew McConaughey. And I think it's like the second time

29:32

they kiss in the movie and Jodie

29:34

pulls away and she's and her first line. I'm not making

29:36

this up is I'm so confused.

29:40

And

29:42

that's your favorite. You're good. You're

29:45

nominated. Okay. This year. So

29:47

no, Jodie Foster is a friend and she would laugh at that. So

29:50

fuck me. I want to go

29:52

back. You're literally crying. Will is literally

29:54

crying of laughter. Rob,

29:57

you've got your own podcast.

29:59

It's not easy, right? It's not easy

30:02

at all. You got to deal with... Anyway.

30:06

This is why I do mine alone. Exactly, if you deal with

30:08

the nonsense. Thank you. No,

30:10

I love you, Sean. I love you too so much.

30:13

So, Robbie, before the outsiders,

30:15

we kind of just skipped over, like, I don't know anything

30:17

about your past or your child. Like,

30:20

how did you get that? Wasn't that such

30:22

a huge deal? What were you doing before

30:24

that? Like theater or anything? I

30:28

was doing theater when I lived in Ohio. My

30:30

family lived there. I was eight years old, and I

30:33

went and saw a local school production

30:35

and fell in love with

30:38

the kid. Like, you know, like, I was like,

30:40

I want to do that. And my parents were like, yeah, sure, whatever.

30:42

So you had a love for it when you were super young?

30:45

Super young, it's all I ever wanted. Knew exactly what I

30:47

wanted to do. Wow, isn't that wild?

30:49

But you couldn't pursue it in Ohio,

30:51

right? Was there a move out to Los Angeles that

30:54

triggered like, okay, I actually want

30:56

to do this now.

30:57

Well, my thing was I'm gonna do, I did every

31:00

sort of university, there was

31:02

a traveling, oh

31:04

God, this thing called the Kenley Players. You gotta look this

31:06

up, guys, it's the best. We should make a movie about

31:09

this. The Kenley Players. It will be summer,

31:11

professional summer. It's like waiting for

31:13

guffman, but real. John Kenley was

31:16

a

31:17

musical theater producer, lived as a

31:19

woman in Florida

31:23

during part of the year, and then was John Kenley

31:25

in the Midwest. And of course the Midwestern people were

31:27

never the wiser. And he would

31:30

get whoever's the hottest TV star and

31:32

put them in Camelot or something like that. And

31:34

then they would tour Dayton, Cincinnati, Akron,

31:37

Columbus, Flint, Michigan. And

31:40

Henry Winkler would come in and just crush for

31:43

four weeks in the summer.

31:46

And you'd see like Vic Tabak

31:49

in Man of a Mon-Sha. Yeah, yeah,

31:51

yeah. And it was the

31:53

most delicious. Sandy Duncan

31:55

is Peter Pan. Of course, yes, he's hot. Jason's

31:58

old co-star.

31:59

Oh yeah. Wait, so, so

32:01

Rob, but that's a good point. So you do it. So you're doing

32:03

this thing, this, this, this touring

32:06

theater thing, which does sound amazing.

32:09

And,

32:10

and then what, how, what do I tell you my Paul Lynn

32:12

stories? Well, let's go. Yeah.

32:16

Look at you, you little giblets. Oh,

32:19

that actually sounded more like Charles Nelson Riley.

32:21

No, the mix of the two. This

32:24

is definitely a mix of the two. One of my favorite Paul Lynn

32:26

lines on Hollywood squares was

32:29

they, the host said, okay, for the center

32:31

square, for the X Paul, when

32:34

a man falls over a boat, you

32:36

yell man overboard. What do you yell when a woman falls

32:38

over a boat? And he goes,

32:40

false beta had. Oh,

32:42

wait, wait. How

32:50

did you, where did you encounter Paul

32:52

Lynn first of all, Rob? Go

32:54

through the Kenley players. Not

32:57

on Hollywood square. Did you ever do Hollywood squares?

33:00

No, I did the $10,000. This is how

33:02

long it was, along it was the $10,000 pyramid

33:06

before it was 25 or a hundred.

33:08

Yes, with Dick Clark. And that was a,

33:10

that was my first trip to New York,

33:13

publicity trip. And I played against

33:15

Tony Danza and I eviscerated

33:19

him. I once took Tony

33:21

Danza deep at the Hollywood stars night. No

33:24

way. Yeah. He threw a little cookie over

33:26

the plate. And I took it out to right center field.

33:28

I love that. Yep. Pass the sprinting

33:30

Lou Ferrigno, inside the park home run.

33:33

Then they, what you went around the bases on a gurney

33:35

or what you probably pulled something. At

33:38

that time I was, I was, I was pretty,

33:40

pretty limber.

33:41

You really were not. I love those old, the

33:43

old time Dodger, Hollywood stars.

33:46

The first one I played in, it was such a huge thrill.

33:49

It was 1979.

33:51

And I stepped up to the plate. Now batting,

33:53

Rob load. No, no

33:56

way. And.

33:59

It was amazing. And I think

34:02

I might've got a fielder's

34:04

choice to first base or whatever. And I

34:06

was like super, because in those days it was super

34:09

competitive actually. And then at

34:11

a certain point it devolved into hijinks

34:13

and then you'd get Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

34:16

pitching to Billy Barty.

34:18

Right, with a huge bat. With

34:20

a huge bat. Right, yes. And

34:22

that's what happened. And then it all, but it was,

34:25

that was my moment at the Hollywood series. I talked

34:27

to Kimmel about this sometimes. We

34:29

should approach them and ask

34:31

them if they would be interested

34:33

in us just sort of just like, let's

34:36

make this thing overhand again. Fast

34:38

pitch, baseball, because now I think it's

34:40

like softball. They bring in a fence and

34:43

we

34:43

should get it back to- Listen, I'm gonna make that-

34:45

Jason's like, how can we suck

34:47

the fun back out of it? You know what I mean? Do

34:51

you ever hear, Rob, do you ever hear about the golf trip we went on

34:53

last year and Jason, on our way there, we were like

34:55

eight of us and Jason's like, okay, here's the deal. Everybody

34:57

has to put everything out. We're gonna keep score.

35:00

It's gonna be, and everybody's like, hey. Aggregate score over four

35:02

days. And everybody's like, hey man, fucking

35:04

relax. We haven't even started

35:06

the trip yet. And he's

35:08

already wanting to take stuff fun out. Wait,

35:11

so Rob, okay, we're jumping all over the place. But what I

35:13

do wanna know is, when was the move,

35:15

because you did all these really successful, great

35:17

movies, like I pointed out before, so,

35:19

animal is fire, about last night, whatever

35:22

it was, class, one of my favorite masquerade,

35:24

which I loved as well. Thank you, I like that one. I

35:26

thought that was a very underappreciated movie.

35:29

And

35:32

then all of a sudden, you

35:34

made like this switch and you're like, well, I'm gonna do comedies.

35:37

And all of a sudden you became a guy who was like,

35:40

in every comedy in the 90s, you

35:44

were in them and it was a big, was that

35:46

like a, did you make a conscious

35:48

decision like, yeah, fuck it, I'm done with this.

35:50

I'm now gonna do that. How did that happen? Well,

35:54

I always loved comedy and it was my

35:56

first love and was obsessed

35:58

with SNL.

35:59

I did, for my sixth grade

36:02

talent show, I did Accroy's Bass-o-Matic

36:05

sketch. I loved, loved.

36:09

Right? I didn't know

36:11

that one. Bass-o-Matic. Oh yeah, there's that

36:13

thing where he sells the, Bass-o-Matic and he talks

36:15

really fast. How many times does this happen

36:17

to you? You have a bass. That

36:21

wiggles off the hook. Yeah. And

36:24

so I hosted SNL and

36:27

had a really good show. And

36:29

hit it off with Lauren, and

36:31

I think Lauren saw something

36:34

in me that nobody had really seen before

36:36

that I could really be funny. And then when

36:39

they, so when they made Wayne's

36:42

World into a movie, I

36:44

had also connected with Mike on the show.

36:48

And we sort of just got

36:50

each other. And so when

36:52

they were making Wayne's World, they

36:54

were looking for somebody who had been in a movie.

36:57

I mean, Mike and Dana, literally,

37:00

which is that simple. I think Rob's

37:02

been in a movie. Sean, tell Tracy who he's talking

37:04

about really quickly. Oh, what?

37:07

Mike Myers and Dana Carvey? There we go.

37:09

Yeah, Mike Myers and Dana

37:11

Carvey. You have to use them sparingly, Rob. You

37:14

give them easy ones like that and then you move forward.

37:16

I know, I got so nervous. No, no, Sean. So,

37:20

yeah, of course, of course

37:22

it's Wayne's World. And that makes

37:25

sense that you get brought in not

37:27

only had

37:27

you been in a movie, you've been in a lot of big

37:29

movies and you're a movie star. So for

37:32

them, it's a great

37:33

get. And Lauren's

37:35

like, so you're gonna, Mike's gonna write

37:37

it and you're doing it, Rob. And you start tomorrow.

37:41

And you've already said yes, and here's your wardrobe. And

37:43

you've said yes, and let's go into action. I

37:48

just, by the way, I will, I just walked with him last week.

37:50

I hadn't had

37:52

a good Lauren Michaels walk through Beverly Hills in a long

37:54

time. There were so many great quotes. I

37:57

really, really, really, and we have

37:59

to do.

37:59

a coffee table book. We

38:02

have to have Lauren quotes. It's

38:04

there. They're the best. One of

38:07

my favorite, I love Lauren. I

38:09

haven't done the walk with him in a

38:11

few years now, any of the walks. I've done the

38:13

beach walk. I've done obviously

38:15

the Beverly Hills Flats walk many times. But

38:18

this is a known thing. Yeah. Like

38:20

he walks with people. Yeah. Like John Sykes said to

38:22

me the other day, I just did a walk with Lauren. And then I saw him

38:24

with gold. I see he and gold when every time he's in town,

38:27

John Goldman. But I said,

38:29

he one time said, we were talking about the South and

38:31

he just goes, it's a

38:33

Mason Dixon line thing.

38:36

And I was like, oh, I'm

38:40

fucking loved. But Rob, what you did with

38:42

that comedy turn though, that I

38:44

sort of felt was it was just, I

38:46

just thought it was really admirable that you were doing

38:48

this. It's, if I remember correctly

38:51

at a time, when people really were

38:53

still kind of taking themselves pretty seriously and

38:55

you were not. And you were assigned a

38:57

lane too. And you said, yeah, you

38:59

know what? I'm not gonna bust out of that lane

39:02

for a lane of, I am a character

39:04

actor and I'm doing Shakespeare. Now you actually

39:06

went the opposite direction. You said, I'm actually

39:08

going to kind of make fun of myself

39:10

a little bit here and just

39:13

pull my pants down a little bit. And kind of

39:15

not be quite as

39:17

gorgeous. It was pretty

39:19

cool. Yeah, really cool. Well, thanks.

39:23

I mean, I love it. And I still

39:25

love, you guys know,

39:27

there's nothing, look, I'm talking to

39:29

a bunch of guys who get to do, get

39:33

to play in both pools and to

39:35

do, like to be

39:37

doing Lone Star now. And then

39:39

the

39:40

show, which is now on Netflix,

39:43

Unstable with my son, Hard Comedy.

39:45

Oh yeah, you told me about that. Like that's the fun of it, because they're so

39:47

different. But when I first got into,

39:50

when I first got into comedy,

39:52

when I first got into humor, you

39:57

know, when I first, it was, no

39:59

one else, and the house was in that lane, for sure. No

40:01

one knew. And

40:04

also SNL was a thing where like people,

40:08

like now everybody wants to do it, does it, doesn't

40:10

think about it. But in those days, like, whoa, you better

40:12

be careful. Ooh, I don't

40:14

know. Like there was all that shit going on.

40:17

I was like, be careful of what? Right, yeah.

40:19

But you do Wayne's World, you do Tommy

40:22

Boy, you do Austin

40:24

Powers. And

40:26

then you jump back and you start doing things like,

40:30

you do a bunch of serious dramas, you did Brothers and Sisters.

40:33

West Wing. Well, I was gonna say West

40:36

Wing, sorry. Sorry, West Wing first,

40:38

I was getting to West Wing, but West Wing first, which

40:40

was a phenomenal show. Then

40:42

Brothers and Sisters with Robbie Bates. Then

40:45

you go and you make the jump and then you start doing, I remember

40:47

the day that

40:48

Amy's like, I think Rob Lowe's gonna do

40:51

Parks and Rec. And I was like, what? That's amazing.

40:54

And all of a sudden like you're on a serious drama

40:56

and then the next year you're on a sitcom and you're

40:58

on a full-fledged comedy. You're

41:01

an agent's dream. Very

41:03

few people get that kind of

41:05

leeway and can pull it off. And

41:08

there's no part of you that's like, well, he can't do that.

41:10

You're like, yeah, well, yeah, it's Rob Lowe. Yeah, Rob can do it.

41:13

Like that's fucking rad, dude. I mean, you

41:15

could have. So for as much as you feel like

41:17

you're like a leading, a character

41:19

actor trapped inside a leading man's body, you

41:22

did what you wanted to do anyway, which

41:24

I think is super fucking rad. And still are doing

41:26

it. And they're still doing it. Yeah.

41:28

It's pretty rad. Thanks. And then now you're doing your

41:30

show with Johnny, who's a great kid

41:32

who might know a little bit. Yeah, your son, John. Jesus Christ.

41:35

That's so cool. I remember you saying, telling me. Talk about

41:37

this, dude.

41:39

It's so, I

41:42

mean, to be able to work with my son. I

41:45

mean, it all started with him

41:48

sort of trolling me

41:49

on social

41:52

media, like just brutalizing me. I mean,

41:55

mercilessly just

41:57

for nothing other than to just do it. And.

41:59

people started to notice,

42:02

and it got to the point that if I was out doing an

42:04

interview to promote something, whether it was the

42:07

Today show or the Ellen

42:09

show, it didn't matter what the venue

42:12

was, all they really wanted to talk about was,

42:14

your son just loves to make fun of

42:16

you. We have some of his greatest hits here. We

42:18

have a mic, Jesus Christ. So

42:21

it got to the point where we both were

42:23

like, people really like this. I wonder, is there

42:25

some there there? Because

42:28

I mean, literally the audience is saying,

42:31

we want this, we want more of this.

42:33

So we tried to figure out what it would be, and

42:35

we're like, well, we're not gonna do a reality show.

42:38

And I don't wanna do that thing

42:40

of playing a heightened version of me, because Larry

42:42

David did it so well, it feels kind of

42:44

done. So what is it? So

42:46

we've

42:47

distilled it down

42:49

to really what it is, is like a larger

42:52

than life, benevolent narcissist

42:55

dad, who may or may not

42:57

be as in touch with the real

42:59

world as he would like to think. And

43:02

the world just applauds him, and

43:05

the son who's just like, oh my God,

43:07

really? And so

43:10

we built the show called Unstable,

43:13

and I play an almost

43:15

like an Elon Musk tech

43:17

genius, who's unstable

43:20

on his best days, and maybe insane in

43:22

his others, and John Owen is the

43:24

son who can, is the only one who can

43:26

speak truth to power. It's super

43:28

fun.

43:29

It's called Unstable, by the way. Yes. Yes.

43:31

It's on Netflix now. It's on Netflix

43:34

because it's streaming. Click it. Wow.

43:38

Go ahead, John. No, I was just gonna say that. I

43:41

know Tommy Boy so well, and I'm such

43:43

a fan of you in it as everything, but I just

43:45

love that movie. I think that movie is so beloved

43:48

by so many people. Are you guys like

43:50

me, by the way? Sorry, when

43:52

two people start talking at the same time, and then somebody

43:55

goes, no, no, you go ahead. I can't

43:57

help but

43:58

say, oh no, I was just... I

44:00

can't stop myself from saying it. And

44:02

I tell myself not to say it. But

44:04

that's okay. But you too, like you just

44:06

said it. It's

44:08

impossible not to say, oh no,

44:11

I was just gonna say it. Right? Yeah,

44:13

it's like you have to say it as an acknowledgement. But it's like yawning

44:15

when someone else yawns next to you. You

44:18

can't help but... anyway, go ahead. Yeah. I

44:21

was just gonna say, Tommy Boy

44:23

is a movie where like,

44:29

Wayne's World,

44:30

we thought might do well. And Austin Powers had

44:33

that thing. Tommy

44:35

Boy, we no one ever expected that movie

44:38

ever to do. And that

44:40

started with playing tennis, was playing tennis with Lauren. I'll never forget

44:42

it. Lauren, Bernie Brilstein,

44:45

myself, John Goldwyn,

44:47

playing doubles. Perfect. And Lauren's saying,

44:50

you know, I think there's something with you

44:53

and Farley playing brothers. Really?

44:56

And I was like, wow, that'd be great. And

44:58

I never heard another thing about it.

45:00

And then, you know, whatever six months later, Tommy

45:03

Boy morphs into what it is.

45:04

But I don't think anybody

45:07

thought... and that's the one that I

45:09

do think has... You

45:12

know, who did I just talk to? Oh, Jonah Hill. Jonah

45:15

Hill, and I'm not kidding, will

45:17

tell you that his favorite movie

45:20

in the world is Tommy

45:22

Boy. Yeah. I'd be pretty close

45:24

to that too. I'm telling you, good fellas, over the God, I'm telling you, Tommy

45:27

Boy. No, it's one of the greatest comedies

45:29

of all time. I mean, it's right

45:32

up there with all of the classics. Did

45:35

Chris make you laugh as much offset as

45:38

on camera? He did. And

45:40

when you were doing your meek laugh, I thought you were doing

45:42

Farley. Do

45:44

your meek laugh, Jason, because it literally is Farley.

45:47

Let's do it. That's Farley's laugh.

45:50

He killed me. I

45:52

mean, Chris Farley and Will Ferrell, there's just...

45:55

there's no one funnier than those two guys to me. No one. Ever.

45:58

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52:04

So, so you do Tommy

52:06

boy, you do all this. So then you do talk

52:08

about West Wing because West Wing was such a, I mean

52:11

that, that show

52:13

just still, you can watch it. You

52:15

can turn it on today and it just completely

52:17

holds up. Isn't that kind of making a research?

52:19

It's like, I hear people talking about that. They now

52:21

watch it a lot, like.

52:23

Yeah, because politics is such a big part of,

52:26

of society now more so than then, I

52:28

think, right? It's interesting

52:30

about West Wing is you could, it kind of comes

52:33

and goes. It was, people

52:35

liked it when it was on. And then in the

52:38

early years of Netflix, the early years,

52:40

I think it was that

52:43

and friends drove Netflix.

52:47

And then it went off the platform.

52:50

And now something's going on that they're into it again. I don't

52:52

know what it is, but I'm hearing a lot about it again too.

52:55

I don't know. So Rob, like

52:57

us, you've been doing the pod, you've been in the podcast

52:59

space. I like calling it the space. It

53:04

does sound good. It's good, right? We're

53:06

in the podcast space. It's better than content.

53:09

You should hear me go off about Rob. I hate when people

53:11

go, I'm a content creator. So you just make fucking

53:14

shit. Or storyteller. If you're

53:16

a storyteller or a content provider.

53:19

Have you

53:20

liked doing the podcast, literally

53:22

with Rob Lowe?

53:24

I love it. I have so much fun because

53:28

it's what

53:29

you guys are, you're just riffing, you're

53:31

having a good time, you're saying

53:33

what's on your mind. And sometimes

53:36

the most trivial stuff is the most

53:38

fun to talk about. And then you get guests

53:40

on and a lot of them I

53:44

have known forever and ever and ever and

53:46

know them in a very specific way that no

53:48

one else is ever gonna know them in the

53:50

way that I do. So I'm able to bring

53:53

out sides of them

53:55

that no one else is gonna be able to do because they don't

53:57

have the history that I have with them. And.

54:00

And,

54:01

you know, I had Whoopi Goldberg on recently.

54:04

And I was like,

54:05

Whoopi, do you remember when we

54:07

were on the California toxic clean

54:09

water caravan with Michael

54:12

J. Fox, Jane Fonda,

54:14

Cher? Just picking up trash down at Santa

54:17

Monica Pier. And we went through the McDonald's

54:19

drive-through. Do

54:21

you remember, like, where else are

54:23

you gonna get that? You know what I'm saying? So

54:25

it's super fun. Rob has got so

54:27

many unbelievable, and

54:30

we always hammer Jason, and

54:32

Kimmel loves hammering Jason for stories about,

54:34

you know, back when he was a teen actor

54:37

and stuff. You guys have such a long history

54:39

in this town of doing stuff like that, weird-ass

54:41

shit, where you're like, yeah, I went on a

54:44

10-hour overnight train journey with LaVar Burton.

54:46

I know. We were going to Vienna,

54:48

on our way to Vienna, to see the scene, like, what the fuck?

54:51

I know, and that Jason went to school with Janet

54:53

Jackson is so crazy. Jason was on

54:55

the massage bus with Janet Jackson, which is

54:57

like fucking crazy. That's a whole other thing,

55:00

Rob. I once saw Rob on a boat in

55:02

the south of France, and he comes on and goes, we were

55:04

just, we just got washed out,

55:06

right? You got washed out by a flooded

55:09

river or some shit. Remember that? Yeah,

55:11

I survived a flash flood in France.

55:13

It was like a legit, like real flash flood.

55:15

Got saved. I would be rescued by the police. Oh,

55:18

by the way, Jason, we, so I did

55:20

Jimmy's show, and there's a game that's named after

55:22

you that they're now renaming after me. I just want you

55:24

to know, the game.

55:25

Really? Yes. It's

55:28

the game where you put the names in the hat, and

55:31

then you pull the hat out,

55:34

and then you have to tell a story about

55:37

the name. He pulls a name out of a hat, or

55:39

some random celebrity

55:41

from years past, and you have

55:44

to say whether you have a story

55:46

associated with it. Oh, I bet Rob. Rob, you must

55:48

crush that. You must crush that. I want

55:50

you and I to play that game. We

55:52

should go mono a mono. I

55:55

would give anything to watch you

55:57

fucking go. Let's just play.

55:59

Let's just play a version right now. I'll

56:02

pick a name for you and then you pick a name for me. That's

56:04

a great idea. Okay, ready? Okay, I'm ready.

56:07

This

56:07

is fun. Okay, Telly Savalas.

56:12

I don't have any direct interaction with

56:14

him, but I believe my wife

56:18

that that might, or no,

56:20

he may be her godfather, or

56:22

maybe he's the godfather of Jen

56:25

Aniston. I think

56:27

he's Jen's godfather, right? I think he's Jen's

56:29

godfather and Amanda and Sheard

56:32

so close to that's why. That's pretty good. So

56:34

it's sort of, it's adjacent too, which reminds

56:36

me of my new construction company.

56:39

It's called Adjacent Abatement. And

56:41

what we do is we go in and we take mold out

56:43

from, all

56:46

right, here's my one for you, Pia Zadora.

56:50

Yeah, okay. You have one?

56:53

So I was making

56:55

out on the colony beach with Gregory

56:57

Peck's daughter. Oh my god.

57:00

Fucking it. Everybody shut up, keep going, Rob.

57:03

And I

57:04

hear this woman going, that's disgusting.

57:07

You should be ashamed of yourself. Don't

57:10

you have any common decency? There

57:13

are children on this beach. And

57:16

I looked up and it was Pia Zadora. That's

57:18

crazy. But how about for bonus points,

57:21

we get Gregory Peck's daughter and the Malibu

57:23

colony. I mean, Rob Lowe,

57:26

this man is royalty. You're a hero. Rob,

57:28

Jesus Christ. How long have you known Downey?

57:32

Ninth grade history class. Wow,

57:35

out there in Malibu?

57:37

San Mo High, Santa Monica High School. Wow.

57:40

I could see it, I remember at Christmas when

57:42

I saw you at the

57:45

Christmas party and then I saw you talk to Rob and I to

57:47

Downey and I was like, I could immediately

57:49

see like, oh, this is deep. This is deep,

57:52

long, deep, deep. You guys have that

57:54

shorthand of knowing each other since being

57:56

kids.

57:58

That was so, that's great. One

58:00

more fun to party with. Downie

58:03

made me laugh harder than any

58:06

human being in the world. And

58:09

I just love what he's done with his life. And he's

58:11

such an inspiration and a great guy. And

58:14

by the way, Downie was on the bus with

58:16

Cher and

58:18

Whoopi Goldberg as well. I mean, we

58:20

were always doing that stuff. My mom used

58:22

to call her Hoopi. Well,

58:25

because in her defense, she couldn't see the whole

58:27

word because the W was covered. Because

58:30

that's where the I, the button. What

58:33

couldn't do the button? And Rob, do you think you'd be able to

58:35

recall enough to write

58:37

a satisfying book? He's written a book.

58:40

Sorry, let me finish. And he's toured

58:42

it very successfully. But in

58:44

this book, when I say book, I mean a follow-up

58:47

series. Yes, yes. What's

58:49

it called, Stories I Only Tell My Friends? Is

58:51

that right? Stories I Only Tell My Friends

58:54

and the follow-up, Love

58:56

Life. So we were talking about- So I'm talking about

58:58

the third one. The

59:00

third one is called Names and Dates. And

59:03

I'm just, names

59:06

and dates. What the fuck can happen?

59:08

Gregory Peck's daughter, March 12th,

59:10

is Adora. So

59:14

now Rob, and now you're back. I

59:16

know that your new thing, well,

59:18

not new, but you're obsessed with golf. You've

59:21

been playing a lot. You and I played a couple months

59:23

ago with Danny Dees,

59:24

by the way, Rob's a good buddy who's with Danny, who's

59:26

a friend of the program. Mm-hmm,

59:28

yep, he's the best. He's the best. He's

59:31

the world's only good finance guy. And-

59:36

That's right. How you were talking about how

59:38

obsessed you are with, and your game is

59:40

getting really good.

59:42

I mean, you're just- Getting there.

59:44

You're on it, right? Like you're practicing a lot.

59:47

Oh, I practice all the time. I don't

59:49

get to play as much because I don't have that

59:51

much time really, but I'm

59:53

practicing

59:55

easily four days a week. Like today I'm

59:57

at Fox. Is there a goal? Yes, yes.

1:00:00

My goal is to do what you did. I want to play in the

1:00:02

AT&T. How was that for

1:00:04

you?

1:00:05

That was incredible. I mean, Will

1:00:07

almost won the damn thing, but I had

1:00:10

a really good time myself too. And all

1:00:12

you got to do is just put your hand up. They'll have you up there.

1:00:15

I mean- Rob, you're in. You're in for next year with

1:00:17

us. Come on.

1:00:17

It was such a blast. It was an amazing, actually

1:00:20

a team up. I'm doing, no, guys,

1:00:21

I'm doing it. I'm 100% doing it. It

1:00:25

always falls right in the middle of the

1:00:27

production schedule, but I'm actually going to ask for

1:00:29

the time off next year. And I'm absolutely

1:00:31

committing to doing it. There you go. I got to follow Tiger

1:00:33

inside the ropes at Genesis. And

1:00:36

yeah,

1:00:37

I got to be inside the ropes with Tiger,

1:00:39

Rory, and JT. It was insane. Wow.

1:00:42

Oh yeah, those rounds were incredible. Were you there

1:00:45

the day when Tiger

1:00:47

birdied the last three holes and they all birdied 18

1:00:49

together? No, that was the day after. I

1:00:51

was there the day that he almost had the hole in one.

1:00:54

Yeah. Oh, that was incredible. One revolution.

1:00:57

But I also saw him, you know the green with the

1:00:59

sand trap in the middle of it? Six. Yeah,

1:01:01

totally. You saw him put into the sand trap.

1:01:04

Yes. Did you see that way?

1:01:06

I saw Tiger Woods put into the sand

1:01:08

trap, which just to me was the most beautiful

1:01:10

thing in the world because I'm like, okay, that's the

1:01:13

greatest who ever hoisted a golf club.

1:01:15

Yeah. And even he can do that.

1:01:17

And even it was the thing was he was going to take

1:01:19

his medicine. He was going to, you know, it's

1:01:21

that thing we always do where we can't quite bring

1:01:23

ourselves to take our medicine. Yeah. And

1:01:26

he also want to do the, he kind of, and

1:01:29

I'm like, I love it.

1:01:31

He did, but I've putted into

1:01:33

that bunker twice in my life.

1:01:35

So, I

1:01:37

bet you didn't make four. Twice. And

1:01:40

the other thing he did that I noticed was whenever he

1:01:42

would do something like that, he would go to another gear

1:01:45

in

1:01:45

whatever the next hole was. Like another gear.

1:01:49

I want to get Tiger on this show. I know it'd

1:01:51

be great to have him on. I mean, it's wild. God,

1:01:54

I just, Rob, you could just listen to you talk about all

1:01:56

your stuff. I know. I

1:01:58

love it. God, it's just everything. Whether

1:02:00

it's his movies or his shows

1:02:03

or his life. By the way, Will, this is

1:02:05

what the podcast is. I mean, because a lot of

1:02:07

times somebody will bring up something

1:02:10

and I'll go, that reminds

1:02:12

me, because I do have a Telly Savala story where I

1:02:14

was eight years old and CoJack was coming to Dayton,

1:02:17

Ohio to sign autographs in

1:02:19

the ladies undergarments of Rike's

1:02:21

department store. Is that

1:02:23

true? Yeah, absolutely true.

1:02:25

And so I got my bus fare together. Autographing underwear

1:02:28

on the third floor is Telly Savalas.

1:02:31

Yeah, and he was probably doing a Kenley Players.

1:02:33

It was probably Telly Savalas in, you

1:02:36

know, some Arthur

1:02:38

Miller show. And

1:02:40

I take the bus and I wait in line forever. And

1:02:43

I bought him a sucker, because I know Telly Savalas likes,

1:02:45

remember CoJack always had the sucker? Yeah. Wow.

1:02:49

Yeah, he always had like a Charms blow pop. That

1:02:51

was his thing. And so I bought him

1:02:53

one and I brought it and I was gonna give it to him. And

1:02:56

it's a three and a half hour line. And

1:02:59

I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.

1:03:01

I finally get right to the front of the line and they go, that's

1:03:03

it, Mr. Savalas has to leave.

1:03:06

And he fucking bails. And

1:03:08

I'm standing here with my sucker. And

1:03:10

I kind of looked for somebody I think is

1:03:12

important. And I go, excuse me, would

1:03:15

you give Mr. Savalas my sucker?

1:03:17

And he goes, oh kid, that's so thoughtful. I

1:03:19

sure will. And I walk away and I'm

1:03:21

going down the escalator. I turn around to watch and the guy

1:03:24

throws it in the trash can. Oh.

1:03:27

That's awful. That

1:03:29

actually stayed with me forever because

1:03:33

whenever I meet someone, I'm

1:03:35

always like, don't be Telly Savalas. Don't

1:03:37

throw it in the trash can. They give

1:03:39

you a bag of freshly cooked homemade cookies.

1:03:42

And you're like, no, I'm gonna eat these. In fairness,

1:03:44

it wasn't Telly who did it. It was a guy.

1:03:47

It was a handler. It wasn't

1:03:49

Telly. He probably

1:03:50

would have sucked it for sure. He

1:03:53

probably would have, he probably would have sucked it. It's a better way

1:03:55

to say it. He's thrown it at you. Yep. Well,

1:03:58

I would, I want to listen. I had

1:03:59

a, I don't, I'm not really into podcasts. So.

1:04:04

Well, you make a hit podcast. You don't need to listen

1:04:06

to another one. I get it. It's a radio

1:04:08

show to Will. He's doing radio. It is radio.

1:04:10

It is morning zoo. I feel like, I feel like it's morning

1:04:12

zoo. Drive time. Yeah. Drive time. I'm

1:04:14

always, I'm just trying to copy my buddy, Johnny Vaughn

1:04:17

over there in the UK. And

1:04:19

Rob, you're a helicopter pilot.

1:04:21

How's the traffic on the five? Yeah.

1:04:23

You know, it's looking a little backed up over here as the pole would have passed.

1:04:26

Tail lights as far as you can see. They

1:04:29

got the uniform for it. Well, Rob, let's

1:04:32

get out again. Let's get out and play

1:04:34

again. Yes. That was really fun. And

1:04:36

I want to be a part of that as soon as my granddad back

1:04:38

heels up.

1:04:39

Yeah. That's not good, man. No, I know. Don't

1:04:41

come back too soon. I know. I got

1:04:43

a date coming up in two days. I got, I got,

1:04:46

I got, Are you doing ice baths? You got a date

1:04:48

in two days and it made us cool with that.

1:04:50

She's just like, she's, she wants me

1:04:52

to be smart and safe and she's letting

1:04:54

me make my own decision, which is nice. So

1:04:57

she doesn't mind that you're, are you both dating or is

1:04:59

it just you? I am

1:05:02

icing it. That

1:05:06

does seem to help.

1:05:07

Good. Yeah.

1:05:08

I'd tell you one of the nicest thing, and this is a true story.

1:05:11

This is not a bit.

1:05:12

I hurt my back a couple of years ago now

1:05:14

and I was at, and I was texted JB. I was like,

1:05:16

my back really hurts. Anyway, I was at home

1:05:18

and all of a sudden out of nowhere in my

1:05:20

backyard comes Jason and he's

1:05:23

got like a, a back heating thing

1:05:25

and

1:05:25

like an icy hot thing and

1:05:28

a bunch of stuff that he brought for my back. I

1:05:30

just dropped it off and then I got back in my yard left. And

1:05:32

he came into my backyard. I was in the sauna and he came in and he

1:05:34

knocked. And he's like, I got all this stuff. I was like, just like a little angel.

1:05:37

And then got back in his car and left. Once

1:05:39

a year. Once, once,

1:05:41

yeah. Even a stop clock. I thought even

1:05:44

a stop clock, you know? Tells

1:05:46

the right time twice a day. Okay, listen, Rob,

1:05:49

we love you, man. I'm so excited about your show

1:05:52

with John and he's such a nice kid. Would

1:05:54

please say hi to him before me. Yeah.

1:05:55

And also say hi to Cheryl and

1:05:58

Cheryl, your lovely wife. of

1:06:00

many years. So sweet.

1:06:02

God, you guys are such nice peeps

1:06:05

and couldn't happen to a better dude. I love you guys.

1:06:07

I was so excited. You're three of my favorite, in

1:06:09

all series, three of my favorite people. I love

1:06:12

everything about you guys. I love hanging with

1:06:14

you. I love your work. I

1:06:17

love your podcast.

1:06:19

Dude, Bateman, you're making me laugh right now

1:06:21

so hard in the fucking trailer

1:06:24

for the Air Jordan movie. I know. It's

1:06:26

like only, only you can fucking

1:06:28

steal a trailer with one. Yeah, I know.

1:06:31

It's so great. It's so great. Nice.

1:06:33

It's amazing. It's amazing. It's

1:06:36

amazing. Love you miss you

1:06:38

mean it. Yeah. Love you miss

1:06:40

you mean it. Santa Barbara. Yep.

1:06:43

We'll go, you know, and hang

1:06:45

or in the, let's make it happen. Just get fired

1:06:48

off one of these 10,000 jobs you're doing

1:06:50

and free some time up and let's go hang out. I

1:06:52

know. It has to be the week. All right.

1:06:54

It has to be the week. Thank you.

1:06:57

The great Rob Lowe. We love you.

1:06:59

Love you. It's low. Your chance load

1:07:02

load. Don't get podcasts.

1:07:05

Rob Lowe literally wherever you get your

1:07:07

podcast. Rob's podcast. Listen to

1:07:09

our podcast and unstable on

1:07:11

Netflix. You're watching it. You're loving it. Everything

1:07:14

Rob load all the time.

1:07:18

Love you boys. Love you. Thanks for doing this Rob.

1:07:20

Bye buddy. All right.

1:07:22

Lovely man.

1:07:24

That Rob Lowe. That Rob Lowe.

1:07:27

He's, he's

1:07:28

just always been nice. Always been

1:07:30

talented.

1:07:31

Always been handsome. Yeah. That's

1:07:33

another guy I'd like to come back

1:07:35

as I think there's a long list here of

1:07:38

guests we've had that I'd like to. Yeah. You

1:07:40

can talk to him for hours. He reincarnated.

1:07:42

We tried to, we tried to get him on. I tried

1:07:44

to get him on before he was the one we had technical

1:07:47

glitch a couple of weeks ago and we had the bill. That

1:07:49

was Rob. Yes. And oh, that was Rob. Oh, I

1:07:51

didn't know. I've been trying to get him on here forever. And,

1:07:54

um, you know, we had a technical glitch with, uh,

1:07:56

with, uh, McConaughey way back when, right?

1:07:58

When, when, when are you going to rebal?

1:07:59

book him. I don't know. I want to get it back on your,

1:08:02

uh, that was a great, because

1:08:04

when we do have McConaughey on, then we can go

1:08:06

through. Hopefully we have the recording of of

1:08:08

me having my hissy fit when you had your, didn't

1:08:11

I snap at him a little bit? Didn't I tell him you're

1:08:13

laughing is not making things helpful. Surprise

1:08:16

guests. And then you, and then

1:08:18

you, and then you slept. Yeah, that

1:08:21

was so great. And then, um, and

1:08:23

we can talk about contact when we can talk about contact

1:08:26

with, you know, but I did, it didn't hurt. You

1:08:28

can break me today, Sean,

1:08:29

with the contact. It occurred to me earlier,

1:08:32

like it is somewhat, it's either dangerous

1:08:34

or good or whatever about this thing

1:08:36

is that we do this all the time. We're always

1:08:39

just sort of just, you know, almost every

1:08:41

day we're picking up the, we're talking with one another

1:08:43

no matter what mood we're in. And we drag that

1:08:45

into these, these interviews, these

1:08:48

conversations for the public. And

1:08:50

oftentimes we're doing this thing in

1:08:52

a bad mood. And like, what if we like,

1:08:55

what

1:08:55

if we get in a fight with one another? I mean, I know

1:08:57

it's been, it's been tense a couple of times, but like, every,

1:08:59

people just get like warts and all on this.

1:09:01

And is that smart for us to be doing that? Why

1:09:04

not? It's real. It's normal. It's real, I guess. Also

1:09:06

who cares? Who cares? We're not

1:09:08

going to get in a fight. Like what's the worst we've ever.

1:09:11

Fuck you, Sean. Fuck you. Don't

1:09:13

you disagree with what I'm saying?

1:09:16

We've had, I think it's, uh, I

1:09:18

don't know. I just think like,

1:09:22

I really mean it when I say who cares. We might as

1:09:24

well. Yeah. Cause it's going to be lights

1:09:26

out at some point. And then anyway,

1:09:28

Rob Lowe,

1:09:30

you know, this

1:09:33

Rob Lowe, you know, Rob was in contact.

1:09:36

Rob was in contact. He was, he was in contact.

1:09:38

And by the way, he's not, he's not allergic to

1:09:41

work. Boy, he works a lot. By the way, just,

1:09:43

just for the record,

1:09:44

no recollection of him in contact or Matthew

1:09:46

McConaughey for that matter. Well, Matthew McConaughey and for

1:09:48

joining us, one of the stars. Yeah. Yeah. But

1:09:51

I only remember her in it. And wasn't there

1:09:53

a kid to know? No, there are no kids.

1:09:55

Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm complaining.

1:09:57

You thinking of Nell.

1:09:58

Another a Jody. I do

1:10:01

remember the incredible opening pullback,

1:10:03

right? From the, from earth all

1:10:05

the way back. Oh, and I emailed you that one shot

1:10:08

where she runs into the mirror. Into the mirror, yup.

1:10:10

How they do it, I still don't know how they do it. Oh, that's how

1:10:12

they, that's the kid when she was a little kid. Yes,

1:10:15

thank you, thank you. Mm-hmm.

1:10:17

But wait, but in his show that

1:10:19

he's doing now, the 911 Lone Star, I

1:10:22

thought, I couldn't tell if he was a cop or

1:10:24

a CIA or an F.

1:10:27

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