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my grandfather
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has he , about
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twice every year year
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and over on new year's eve he
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went out to the port a blast and to the sky
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where
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daddy
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there you see it would ever goes
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up his got to come down
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new year's day beta the
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other the night before
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halloween detroit thousands
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of fires
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the moment the sunset over the rise
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it's the city's race pleasing
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or
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and i watch when data good is do
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you agree
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all around us
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right
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hiding behind bars on a windows
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looking out into the darkness as granddaddy
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see shadows on , sidewalk
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sidewalk it's league is very is met
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donald duck masks carried tortoise
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gasoline containing some promising
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to consider promising soon the
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views of his gun barrel for
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decided to move on you
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can stay up to protect us amnesty
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, him all night
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long by have to it attracts
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watch watching satisfies
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please cause i try
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those like me ,
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awake face sleep master just a window
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a job upstairs open
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the front door see my
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granddaddy still
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sitting since we on a port still holding
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he sat gun pulling the drugs
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from his last cigarettes is packed with supplemental
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polls the
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granny see book as you yes
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there the boy
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the again
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what you scared
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instead his eyes flashed
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thought he looks at me like he seeing something
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else someone else
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rt to file was i'm
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okay good
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i never knew how his sister passed
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i , understand that it was an accident
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accident didn't know that someone had met to burrow
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his black family from their home in the middle
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of the max it out every person that crawled
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out of that infernal long infernal six
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something of a slave with them with
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didn't understand that he's been battling understand that
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die for a very long time
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in the bird passes ,
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his eyes and he's almost my grandfather
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against of i mean him back
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from that place she just with
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granddaddy
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vendetta , have just a little bit of ice cream corn
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flakes he
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looks to me all the way then babies
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grab , grab ice cream in this don't
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tell your grandma
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the road we
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know full well that things
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are never as they seem that
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people are often fighting invisible battles
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against unseen forces we know
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all of this
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still
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there's a different type of magic being
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in the wild highlights
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the mystery of everything we do not see i'm
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a storyteller shock jock
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, face to face with his i know and
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abolition wilderness the
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place called dismal false
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the result of again hang
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around the world since i was real
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, young another ever
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since the swain
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backpacking tours and voters
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therapy ended up making it for it
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do for a living at this point the
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this happened in two thousand fifteen
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at with summertime and
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, the can't that
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we are working out of our main base camp from
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what i understand it was an old friend
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in summer camp i'm not sure are
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the details but it was for your chance
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was for of the cabins that we use
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had been kind of read on a little bit then
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of course we had the earth or stables
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we had wanna say like probably
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fifteen or sixteen of them or
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worse is a lot of them and off the
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horses were actually essentially a therapy
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as well the kids would
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work with them for far there's air b
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and in the horses are also being rehabilitated
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from abuse of homes at the same time
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that night you are you down by
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the stables the , his
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name stanley was a mini donkeys donkeys
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he would start going off at night down
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night are not any by
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elders ever her elders donkey freaking
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out but it can be kinda weird little
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bit scary when
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he would do that's pretty consistently
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this woman usually the next day when we
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would go downstairs divorces
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first , they do is groom groom
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when you gotta groove on their their maids
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entails would be just completely
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and not even if we address
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in the day before the horses would be
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in poor shape
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that time i root in the a lot of it
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that would have kids your of like look at this
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like i , do this or like
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okay why what's your point a boy we're the
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last group here i'd i didn't do
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this mom likes or name is ended it you
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know like this that's
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not party must stop or not a great right
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now to worry about the horses mates
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i don't know a whole town about forces but
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i do remember growing ,
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my great grandma would
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talk about adnan and said that there
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was that there on your farm
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i guess it was because she would go out every
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single day the domains and details
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on the livestock were tangled up there
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, like somebody had gone out and
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just just haywire
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on these animals can
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animals be skittish and they would be jumpy
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in ages were not in a good
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mood at all that
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was one of the few things you ever thought about was she
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she said us where there's a which out here and
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sewage out as you said all time from
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the first time it happened down by the horse
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stables iommi a definite
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thought of that i remember her saying that
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saying immediately
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that damn which
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but know like well you know the happened a couple
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times whatever it's not a big
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deal and , was tired
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easier some like that that
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without consistently it happened there i did
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start to wonder little bit about
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that
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the heard about the will fall that read about
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it i read about it initially
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own a photography website
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in i saw pictures of it or like
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math abuse waterfall i don't want to get out there
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to see this i got
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windows or to a book called
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land of waterfalls and
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isn't by of guy named jim bob tinsley
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the wrote it in eighty eight and
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he wrote about frazzled any
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county mainly which is why
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and waterfalls as they call it there's
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tons of waterfalls out there charted
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uncharted there's on there's diamond have names
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the only describes it as one
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of the most foreboding places in the southern
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appalachians
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our mainly reading to get directions
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doesn't know how to get out there decided
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i was gonna go check it out the next day as
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i drove off and apart
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, at the base camp on
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started nice or hi def there
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oh what a final made out as
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out as and mountain laurels
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that are so low to the ground that they're almost over your head
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the research to get through to
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can own hands and knees snag goes
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on for for some time did
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, pop out of that out as up
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a little that for us and
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you're still going other a really see race
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for the blind he can't see a whole lot lot
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come around this around
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and on your left side your
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this really large
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boulders i mean it's gotta be to
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size houses it's a big board
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so to noted that in kept
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on move and and not too long
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after that he founded as point
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where the trail split into
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two
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that employ a thought he
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got a map out i was not
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sure which way to go hundred percent the
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one around the stayed pretty flat
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courting to the map would go to the dismal off
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that the other trail that goes
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i , it from where i was that it was when you went
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straight up hill does
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the one that goes to the waterfall i mean it
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is really steep though
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i'm a started climbs up that
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way yeah probably
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about halfway up
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and
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just don't like are being watched
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i got that just that two years
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your stomach zealand and
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hair on the back my neck stood up and
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weirdly enough my nose actually started bleeding
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right into i
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, of turned around around
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this cause this was
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, from and
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all i could see was just this
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foot and part of a robe disappear
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into the rhododendrons
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second
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just caught a glimpse at it
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the time i mean we have been lived
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in out night before i
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, died rated low birth birth
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and will the hung over and sounds and
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a lamb definitely seen things like
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i should take a break after
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economic wealth
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how's that possible because i
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didn't hear anything
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and without stick the leaf litter is there you can
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hear anything
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it was quiet it's very quiet
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out there
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the thing
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, all this and it's just
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it's give me fostered so i'm just like i'm
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going to keep going
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the moon usually
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i got to the ,
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of this feel that i'm inclined as as
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aggressor the top of it and
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there's a tree a the tree has got
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a wrote coming down from it i go to i
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series and that three as and that
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and then from there kind of puts you down
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in the rhododendron by the banks of
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doesn't solve
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this is a very long bridal veil really
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really pretty waterfall the
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drops we see for the most just
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aid and then it
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hits it hits down
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and it just runs down this i
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mean it's gotta be gotta couple hundred z avast
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just flip rocks those
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i can go sit at the bottom of
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the false the sat
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down to just chill
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out have some water would force what
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it was nice and cool so i'm enjoying that
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else you announcement i'm doing good
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and soon really good and i'm
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not even stress and on the different
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not too long after i got their encounters
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has settled and i
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, that feeling again
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like has been was
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the end
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our guys have
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to steal on i hear what
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, like a voice voice
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and worse and
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up at the very top of the cascade there's
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, woman standing on
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top the waterfall i
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could see are plain as day he had
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found plain curly gray hair fell down their
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shoulders are so she
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was in her eighties and was wearing
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a cloak was black mona lisa
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dark colored ones it
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seem to be and spectacular
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conditions for somebody runs around the woods in
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it and that's
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about all conditions did make out from where i was
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the no sooner had i looked at her she
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turns the walked off into religion
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bushes and then
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she's out of sight
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this point
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a more confusing
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, than stairs stairs
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six to away like to for the i'm a dude
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why i'm not i'm not intimidated
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that i'm trying to this fantasy
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it's like why somebody would be
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there i know i didn't even know you could
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go up there though i
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decide to start warming to drop their suits
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i'm gonna go figured it out oh my
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the
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of run a tough nut bag and start
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making my way up this live
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right next to the roof the bridal veil no
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took me it , me
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closer our to navigate through all
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this dislike rock to suffer
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free serious it as chance after
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to navigate navigate trying
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to catch my breath and then i
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hear from the bottom of the false
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this time it was definitely time voice heard it really
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clearly and it said hey and
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so i turn and work and
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now see is at the bottom of the false
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where i have been no
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front of figure out how she would have gotten down
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, has me when
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i was coming up the to that
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didn't find any other trails
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something's not right here
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and i was like this person's followed what
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my brain and body said was
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get out of their dues like we don't need to be here
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like was get outta here
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are you i'm attack on serve
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i just cannot step
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, the bridal veil and
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i just tell when it crashed into the bushes until the bushes
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sounds the trail that i come in on
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the life i scramble of those
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those roses crap back over
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the , ridge so now
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i'm now back down in
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i'm on fracking pretty hard downhill back
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towards that split the trail where trail
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saw the for initially that
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whoop ass that for it and
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and run in remus ,
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speed down this hill hill
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i come back to that point where
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where the big voter is that
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big house size rock the
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course now at all my right side and
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as i come around as blind corner around
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this rock see stand
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stand there in israel source and
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almost ran smack answer
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i took a tumble to avoid hytner
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the ground pretty hard day
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when to be very good when
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i came to a stops i basically road
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kind of up against this this rock so
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on wrote up against attacks against the rocks
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and i'm constantly up and see
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his stand his stand top of the just
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working army
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no expression on her face it off
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and , eyes worse they were so
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white blue that they were almost wife
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like irises they almost bladed
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right into the whites rise
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the wrestler was really old looking better eyes were
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very very useful of and just
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piercing
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there me to death
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the series for a second that
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like an eternity what time slow
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down will that
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i break contact rate i cause
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i'd weather and , of role
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in my seat under me and i take
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off off see
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just sauna watched me she
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was me get my feet under mean girls
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no i'm really run and i mean i'm terrified
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displaced dolls are
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i'm trying to tell myself like this like this
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you're making this up like there's nothing we're
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going on here even though
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in a desperate running from something
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finally , right about down posted a base
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camp and slow
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down sector jaime stops
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didn't hear you saying they
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good i was not being followed and
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so i just consider my watch two
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point the trail where there is this down
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trees and
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across a rather large come around
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a corner and ,
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a bobcat certain in the middle
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of the trail trail
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what are moving eyes were not moving not
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a whisker a and
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as very as very out a character
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for that animal or may not
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have been in the woods for long time over
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fifteen years and i've
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only ever seen one axel while bobcat
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you want you to ever see was much less
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one sentence just in the trail
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look at nasa the
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stop , i'm staring at this
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this cat and i
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notice the eyes
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there weren't like had eyes the pupils
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did they were flooded wasn't
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the same shape i mean
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they for save watch human eyes the
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pupils were i mean almost
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dead white white very very light blue
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almost dead white
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the i knew right away soon as i saw their child's
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eyes as well as are right there and
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i was terrified house
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, this thing then it's eyes
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eyes start looking at me and
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i'd and ourselves that like
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deep down am i being that
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she could do whatever she wanted whatever me i
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was at her mercy so
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i started talking to her
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why we're going out beautiful mountain heroes
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like while will never go about your waterfall
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just like just please let ago i
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just let me go
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in fact that our wow that was a some i
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thought and no sooner had
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i thought that this is bob
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get turned walked , the trail
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let me guess
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that that detectives on the process of
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a really it as when the it all tennis
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court for me right there at sanjin for me
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and i was like whoa whoa what on a second
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it's just like like , that
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was really really weird like i
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think i ran into a which i
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dunno that's kinda just it was very
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organic in the way that it just
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like my brain automatically was like yup
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the i mean as far as like
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that it did humbles you a lot
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firstly and up in a position i was in a
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mean you're you're a big bag i'd like
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i've screwed up with the apostle bear in the jaw
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weiss i'm not intimidated
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by a lot of things but sure
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enough the i hope me a lot
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there's that was probably one of the
23:02
once you saw them all live ruff so what truly
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help was not why not just that was
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looking at this
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what seemed to be like an eighty year old woman
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there's no listener think she's been there for a
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long time longer longer
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than eighty years eighty would think would
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think she's much older than that the
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that's just that's where she where
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he lives that are stomping grounds and it's
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his way out of the way for reason
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though i mean when i go out in the words like
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i'm take out trash on taking care of the woods
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that she saw that
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then she was gonna like letting me know that
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she was there like making a presence known more
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nathan else and yeah
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really that that's what i got out for the most part
23:48
because i saw me sick of don't have you want to oscillate
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of just iraq war it
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sounds crazy but it think she's
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as a c stop me on that rail
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to just my character see
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decided for whatever reason not
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says not , harm me
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and just to see if you know
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false more the enough to be in her words
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words you determine that i
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must have been
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sam knows
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, the only toyed with his move
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move the coastline please don't
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score a savior use
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it is
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have you told someone shares
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least in , life
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familiar story
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of have story
25:15
no one leaves stories
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at have judgment or because
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it's nothing better
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dot o l
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, dark side in school school
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who spoke who up
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your seems available right now snap
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judgment now snap and remember
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if you like your storytelling under the bright
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light of test zippy amazing
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and sat there are tests is
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storytelling with
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dark
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heart of the hour mark
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listed as good as understand you can't
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we're still blocked in the woods
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the same stuff like smith was
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hambrick eighteen when more used we
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are more lot of decamped lintel korea
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shield cause mr dodds loitered
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no kidding to lisa and for doug
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stewart and i see us
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in a taxi millis
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lives in washington there
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were always are caught in the world
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where , you see it or not when you
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watch your fourth clever course fired
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or blinds only know know
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have wandered from the pats after is
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teach your children stable know the
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