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Snap Judgment Studios

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Some say that faith

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is the substance of things hoped for, the

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evidence of things not seen. You're

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listening to Spooked.

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Stay tuned. From

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KQED and PRX,

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you've crossed over to Spooked.

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Maybe

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it's because we didn't celebrate

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holidays as a child,

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that I have a hard time accepting

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them now. Even

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as I see the table laying, family

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and friends laughing in front of the platters of

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food and the presents and the cheer, the kids

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squealing, the dogs

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barking. Even

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in the midst of that joy, I feel

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a shadow waiting at the door. I

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don't want it to come inside.

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I want to protect these good people,

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my home from that dark thing, but that

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dark thing waits.

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The lights, the tints

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of the ornaments. I

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finally know what they are for. And

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I can only hope that

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they work. My

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name is Ben Washington. Amulets

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and ornaments are

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the same thing. Spooked

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starts now.

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Now we begin and before we

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dive in and believe me

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I know you want to dive in,

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know that both of

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our storytellers are public servants and

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because of this we're going to give them some anonymity. Our

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first storyteller I'm going to call him Dave

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and when

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Dave took on the graveyard shift

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at the station Dave saw all kinds of

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stuff but Dave

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never saw anything quite

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like this.

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Spooked.

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About two or three o'clock in the morning

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myself and another officer was at

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the RTO desk and we

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were talking story and I hear a bird

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chirping noise coming from the bathroom. I

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happen to look up because we do have

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birds that do get into the station from time

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to time. I wonder if another pigeon got

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in waiting for it to go flying around

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and as I'm looking in that direction I see

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a gentleman walking from our

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back glass doors where

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it is a prohibited area for civilians.

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As

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he's approaching I notice his hair is

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kind of grayish brown, he has a beard, kind of

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a heavier set gentleman wearing his purple

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tinted glasses, medium

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height probably about between five ten and six

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feet. As I'm speaking out

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to him asking him sir what are you doing? Excuse

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me you can't come from that area. He

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kept on walking looking straight

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ahead not noticing myself

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or the other officer that I'm with until

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he hit the wall and it turned into

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like a heat wave and it would sparkle.

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That's so really weird and

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disappeared.

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About the time I turned back,

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did you see that? The person

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was with me, said, yes, I did. I'm getting the blank

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out of here as he exited the room. I

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thought of

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maybe this is a trick,

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a joke. Maybe the person is

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hiding.

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Immediately, I got out

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of my chair, around the desk, jumped

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over the counter, ran outside

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to try and find this individual.

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I wanted to get to the bottom of exactly what I just

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saw. And come to find

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out, I couldn't find this person at all. So

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I go back downstairs. There

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was a retiree who was doing our

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paperwork and the on-duty

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desk sergeant. I tell them what happened,

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explain to them what the person looked like. It

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was a light gray t-shirt, dark gray

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pants, tan loafers.

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Yeah, the kind of a beard, the

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kind of fashion glasses. I call them fashion

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glasses because they're not really glasses

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used to see, but they're kind of that dark purple tint

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that a lot of guys used to wear at the time. So

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they said, yes, it's him. And the name

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they mentioned, it was someone that I

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had heard of before. So I

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knew what had happened. I just never

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met the person. And they say it was

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an officer that retired that died

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at the desk, massive heart attack.

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Apparently the clothes that I

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had seen this person with was the exact

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clothes he was wearing when he passed away. That's how they

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knew it was him. And recently

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another officer had seen him and they had

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approached me about it and said, I saw

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him walking through the station.

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And my theory is if a person

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dies suddenly like that, maybe

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they're stuck in a time loop. And whenever

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that particular day, time,

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hour, month, whatever it may be,

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there's when they reappear and go through the

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same path steps,

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kind of like a broken record or a TV

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show that plays itself over and over and over. they

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can't get out of it until somebody helps them

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get to the next stage.

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That's what I see. I've

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got less than two years of experience

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with the police department. I think it

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was probably the first vacation that I took since

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I had started. I'm

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in San Francisco on a vacation with

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a girlfriend at the time. I can't

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remember the name of the hotel we were staying at, but

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it was maybe about four or five

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blocks away from Union Square.

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So, you know, we arrive at the hotel and

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they give us the room key. We go up to the room.

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It's a nice room, you know, posh,

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San Francisco. My first impression

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of the room is it's a nice room, but there's just something not

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right with the room.

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But, you know, we're on vacation, so we

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set our things down and spend most of

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the day outside. That's what you're supposed

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to do on vacation, right? So

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the first night, intermittently throughout the

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night, I'm smelling this cigar smoke, and

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I'm getting this weird vibe in the room.

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At first, I'm thinking it's because I'm staying in this.

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unfamiliar place

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but I'm getting a weird vibe. A couple

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nights pass by and the girlfriend at

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the time tells me you know I smell

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like a men's cologne in the

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room

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and so I asked her about it

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you know what do you mean like men's cologne she said yeah it's

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like not in the sheets or in the

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towels but it's every once in a while she'll

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catch a waft of this men's cologne.

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So

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we made a little joke about you

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know that it's some

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male ghost that's following her around wants

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me out of the picture. I'm

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just coming out of the shower and the

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bathroom steam had fogged up the mirror

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and so I wrote you know something like she's

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mine you can't have her. So

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we turn in for the night and go to sleep and

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I'm a pretty heavy sleeper.

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Normally when I wake up I wake up and I

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wake up groggy you know kind of takes

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me a while to get my senses

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but this time was different I woke up and it wasn't

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a flash like a snap of a finger I was out fully

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consciously aware

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and I see a shape in the corner

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of the room it's

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a cloud it's

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just hovering in the corner of the room

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near where the front door is and

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it's bubbling it was

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just churning in itself and

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it seemed to be churning from the outside

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in and I noticed that the center of it was

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dark.

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I'm in disbelief I don't know what it is and at

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the same time I'm feeling the prickly you know I'm

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feeling the cold rush

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through me and just the hypersenses

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or you know everything is alerted.

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And then all of a sudden this thing seems to

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turn its focus on me. And

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it starts to come into the room. You

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know, my girlfriend is sleeping next to me. And

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so I start to lightly tap her and say, Hey,

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wake up. At first

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she doesn't respond. And so this thing is slowly coming

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from the entry. Now it's, it

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passed the threshold and now it's inside the main

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room. It is coming towards the bed.

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And so I continue to tap her. Hey, wake

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up. And she wakes up and

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she, she refuses. She's not, I'm not, I'm not

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going to look. I tell him, you got

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to look because I don't know if, if what I'm seeing

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is something. So

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she, no, she refuses. And so she starts to pray.

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It continues to move

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forward and now the center had

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become just black.

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Almost like an eye. You

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know, in this thing now it's staring

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straight at me. The

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action of it boiling is just, it's

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really moving now. It

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looks like a pot of hot water that's

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boiling at its hottest temperature.

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It latches on to me. I can

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feel something grip

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me by the back of my head

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and I can't look away. I can't move and it just

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grabs onto me. It felt like it was

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burning a hole in me.

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And

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so my, my girlfriend is next to me. She's

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praying and her

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father had told her if you're ever in any trouble. Pray

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to the Sifu and he will

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protect you. And

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so slowly the.

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The cloud began to

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fade, the dark center began

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to lighten, and the grip around my back

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of my head began to lessen.

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And eventually the cloud backed away,

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it went back to the corner and it disappeared

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up into the roof. Immediately

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we went down to the lobby and requested to be moved.

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The concierge had asked us, what

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room are you in?

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When we told the concierge our

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room number, she nodded almost

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in an understanding way. And she told us, yeah,

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I'll get you a room as soon as possible.

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My girlfriend had prodded her and then she said, well,

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let's put it this way, we get complaints

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out of that room often.

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We stayed in San Francisco for a few more days,

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but my girlfriend had called her parents back home in

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Honolulu and so they told her, you know,

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you need to perform a ritual. And they reassured

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us that it wouldn't be able to

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follow us over water.

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But they said that when we do arrive, we

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have to walk over fire to further cleanse ourselves. We

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landed back in Honolulu, we

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landed back in Honolulu, we went straight

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to my girlfriend's parents' house and

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we did a ritual with tea leaves and walking over

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fire. And, you know, I thought that

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was the end of it.

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That night I had stayed at my parents' house, you

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know, I was tired, a jet lag.

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I fell asleep on their

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sofa in their living room.

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I woke up in an instant.

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I knew exactly

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where I was and I could feel that presence again.

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It was almost like a hot breath that just,

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it just breathed down my neck and

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it just was this malicious

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feeling. And

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I feel that before I see it. So

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I'm expecting this, this exact

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same thing that I saw in San Francisco. You know,

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I looked around my parents' living

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room and I saw it

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come down their hallway.

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But I'm surprised

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when I see it and

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it has sharp edges on

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it now. And

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it's angrier than it was in

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San Francisco. It

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shot straight down the hallway

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and it turned and it came straight

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at me. And

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it hit me in my chest and went right through my body.

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It just, it just felt like I was getting electrocuted.

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You know, here I am a grown man in my

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parents' living room and this thing attacks

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me, goes right through my body and I lose

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all sense of control. When

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it passed through me, it just, it was a

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sensation like a, like

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a coldness, but like a, like a buzz.

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Like my whole body was like just

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vibrating and

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it actually made me, you

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know, I, I, I urinated,

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I peed myself and I lost all

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control of my body. body they function. I

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like to say that that was the last time it made

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itself visible to me, but I

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felt its presence. Everywhere

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I went, I could sense

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where it was. It followed me. You

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know, I could walk into a room and I would get

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that burning sensation on

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my neck, just constant like a feeling

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of hate just burning down on me.

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It would follow me, but

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it liked to stay in my house.

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It would wait for me at home.

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So my ritual would be I would get home from

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work. I would conduct a

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search of my entire house.

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I'd go to my closet, open the closet, and I

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wouldn't see it there. But

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I would extend my hand and

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I would get the same

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electrical feeling that I got when it passed

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through my body.

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I felt like by knowing where

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it was at all times,

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at least I felt some

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comfort. And it would be

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like under the kitchen sink or

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it would be in the shower. And

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then I would tell it, you know, I know you're

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here. I can feel your presence.

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I want you to just stay there and don't bother

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me.

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I felt like it wanted to prove a point that,

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you know, hey, if I want to, I

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can make myself known.

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As long as I didn't outwardly

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disrespect it, it wasn't going

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to manifest itself again

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or try to attack me again.

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So it was a humbling experience for

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me, and I just kept

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that perspective.

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The entity eventually

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exited my life. I no longer feel

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its presence,

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but it kind of

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opened a doorway so that I sense

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other things when I'm at

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work. I'm

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at this apartment, and the lady

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had just passed away, and

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now I'm taking

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custody of the dog.

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I don't want to, but it just goes with

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the job, so now I'm the one that is responsible

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for the dog. So

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I drop off the dog at the shelter, and

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then I go back out, and really

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far in the back of my mind I can feel sadness

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following me, but

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I really don't know what to expect.

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So at the end of my shift I go home to unwind,

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throw my leftovers in the microwave, and so I'm settling

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down in front of the TV, trying to wind down and

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get ready for bed after my shift, and I constantly

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can feel this presence in my

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apartment.

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And I can feel her behind me, but

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I'm hoping that I don't have

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to confront her. And

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so I finish my dinner, and

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I finally, okay, I need to get up and put my dishes in the sink

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and go to bed. So

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I get up off the sofa, and

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I walk towards the kitchen, and she's right

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there standing in my kitchen.

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And she's looking at me, and I'm just looking at her,

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And the strange thing is that she's

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wet. I don't know why she's wet. Not wet

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from tears or sweat, but she's like she

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had been caught in the rain. She's wet and dripping.

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Selfishly, I want her to leave me alone,

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but obviously she's trying to communicate

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something to me.

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So at this point, I'm just trying to provide

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her with what she wants. Reassuring

20:30

her that your dog is gonna be

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okay.

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Someone is gonna adopt your

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dog. It's a cute little dog. No

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reason why no one would adopt

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and take care of him.

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She didn't move, she didn't talk,

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she didn't interact with me in any

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way. But I felt

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like I was just

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giving her the information that she wanted. And

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then I went back and I sat on

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my sofa and just went about

21:02

my business, turned my attention towards

21:04

the TV. And I watched

21:06

the TV for a little while. I

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looked back over towards my kitchen. She

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wasn't there anymore.

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I never seen her since. I

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mean, I don't think there's anyone that wants to

21:25

go to work knowing that they're gonna see

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spirits

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or sense, it's a whole other challenge that

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I have to deal with that

21:34

I could just easily not have that it

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would probably be easier for me. There

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was a period when I was working

21:47

in the Kaimuki area and we had

21:50

a rash of bank robberies.

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I remember the robbery detail had told

21:54

us, you know, you guys got eight hours, you've grown with

21:56

your leads. We want

21:58

this guy in custody by then.

21:59

end of the night.

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So I got an impression, like the only

22:05

way I can describe it is it's a picture in

22:08

my mind or a sense of something.

22:14

It'll be a voice but not an audible

22:16

voice, you know, it'll just be like a consciousness

22:19

telling me something.

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I don't talk about this because if I discuss

22:28

this with my beat partners they're just gonna, you

22:30

know, they form their own opinions,

22:32

you know, but you know you

22:35

can call it intuition but it's not. It's more than

22:37

an intuition, you know, so I had this impression

22:39

and it told me food

22:42

pantry.

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There was a food pantry in Waikiki on Kuhio

22:47

Avenue and it's a little

22:50

market. So I got paired

22:52

up with this senior officer.

22:57

I got in his car, he drove, he

22:59

told me, hey I want to go back

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to the office to

23:04

get some paperwork.

23:13

And so I got this impression telling me, no, don't

23:16

listen to him, go to food pantry now.

23:20

And you know, it took everything

23:22

I had to convince him because, you know, I was a

23:25

rookie cop and he's a senior

23:27

officer with a lot of respect in the department. And

23:30

so it took me a while to convince him, you know, I don't

23:32

think we should go back to the office, you know, as respectful

23:34

as I could be.

23:36

I think we should go into Waikiki.

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I don't want to tell him food pantry because he's gonna look

23:42

at me, you know, what are you talking about? Why food pantry,

23:44

right? And I don't have an explanation for it. So

23:48

I kind of guide him and he finally

23:51

concedes and we go into Waikiki and we

23:54

park in front of the food pantry. And

23:56

as soon as we park,

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that same impression, impression, that voice

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that tells me he's going to be eating steaks

24:03

and drinking beer.

24:08

And I'm trying to process this information. Meanwhile,

24:11

I'm trying to catch the suspect in a bar.

24:13

I'm thinking, what the heck is this?

24:18

So we get out of the car and we start walking into

24:20

the food pantry and I said, okay, so steaks and beer.

24:23

So I go over to the meat department.

24:25

I don't see him.

24:29

I have

24:31

a likeness of him because I pulled

24:33

the video from the bank. So on surveillance

24:35

video, there's a clear image. So I know what he

24:37

looks like. Check the meat department. He's nowhere

24:40

to be found.

24:46

The

24:46

voice said beer. So I go walk down the beer

24:48

aisle.

24:50

I told my partner to just stay by the door, just

24:53

secure the door. But

24:56

he had come with me anyway. So

25:00

he's wondering why am I walking to the meat department

25:02

and why am I walking to the beer aisle?

25:04

And sure enough, as soon as I turn the corner of the beer

25:06

aisle, the

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suspect is there in the aisle.

25:13

He's got a shopping cart.

25:16

And the only two things in his shopping

25:19

cart is a

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cold cut of steaks and a 12 pack

25:23

of beer. And

25:26

my partner looks at me and

25:28

goes, is that him? I

25:30

said, yeah, that's the guy. And we apprehend

25:32

him. And

25:36

so the rest of the guys in the task

25:38

force came rushing to the

25:41

food pantry and they're looking at us like,

25:43

what the

25:46

heck? How did you guys find him so quickly?

25:49

And my partner looks at me and says,

25:51

I don't know. He told me food pantry. And

25:53

they're looking at me like, well,

25:56

what happened? I don't know. I just, I

25:59

don't know.

26:00

I don't know what to say, I just had a sense.

26:04

As an officer, you tend to... I

26:06

don't want to speak for everyone, but as a police officer

26:09

or anyone who is a first responder, you

26:12

tend to build up your defenses so that

26:14

you aren't hurt by it. Because

26:17

you see horrific things,

26:19

you see people at their worst.

26:22

I still have those defenses, and

26:24

it's something that is essential to your survival,

26:26

not only for your job, but for

26:28

your own well-being. But then

26:31

when I get those senses of those emotions,

26:34

it just brings it back to a whole

26:37

other, you know, like back to a human level

26:39

where I can connect with that person. I'm

26:46

in my patrol car and I'm doing my patrols, and

26:49

then over the radio I hear a call

26:52

from the international airport that

26:55

they lost track of an airplane coming

26:58

inbound. While

27:00

this is happening, we're starting to

27:02

get calls over the radio. At

27:05

this point it sounds like the aircraft had crashed

27:07

into the mountain.

27:13

So my partners and I, we meet

27:15

at our office and we park our patrol

27:18

cars and we switch out for our

27:20

all-terrain vehicles.

27:28

The terrain was really rough, so I

27:30

had to ditch my ATV. I

27:33

downed everything that I could, took off

27:35

all my gear, so that I was lighter

27:38

and faster and I began running up

27:40

the mountain.

27:45

There was a team of firefighters

27:47

that were on the ridge line next to me. We

27:50

were running a parallel search because we still

27:52

wasn't exactly sure where the crash site

27:54

was. I have a background

27:57

in long distance running, so I...

28:00

I was able to get up the mountain faster

28:04

than my partners, so I ended up being alone

28:06

for most of the search and rescue effort.

28:08

At

28:10

some points, when I got to the upper

28:13

parts of the mountain, you know, I couldn't even

28:15

see 20 feet in front of me. Visibility

28:18

was horrible, but I started to smell

28:21

the smoke. And as I got closer,

28:23

I started to smell the

28:26

electrical fire. You

28:28

know, I still couldn't see any smoke. I still couldn't

28:31

see any fire, but I could smell

28:33

the burning of the electrical

28:35

components and, you know, all the other

28:37

plastic parts of the plane.

28:40

I'm climbing up the mountain

28:43

and I'm driven by this, you

28:45

know, this desire to complete this mission.

28:51

And then all of a sudden I'm confronted with

28:53

this overwhelming sense of sadness

28:56

and loss. And

28:58

a pit in my stomach starts to

29:00

grow. And as I got closer,

29:02

I started getting this

29:05

sense.

29:07

Just something was following me. And

29:10

at that point I got that sick feeling in my stomach because

29:12

now I know that I'm

29:13

dealing with a death. As

29:21

I'm getting up the mountain

29:23

further, the clouds start to

29:26

part and now I can see the

29:28

smoldering and I can see the crash

29:30

site. There's

29:33

a voice that tells me that

29:36

can't be, that

29:40

cannot be.

29:46

I'm no longer thinking about the

29:48

plane crash. I'm thinking about this

29:51

person that just lost their life. And

29:53

here they are, they see me hiking up this mountain

29:57

here's the spirit that does

29:59

it. know that he had passed.

30:05

Maybe thought that he had survived the plane crash

30:07

and was trying to walk out of the trail. I

30:09

passed him and then he decided to follow me.

30:13

I still had parts of my uniform

30:16

on to identify myself as an officer.

30:20

And then, you know, I sensed

30:22

this overwhelming sense of confusion

30:25

and loss and I just say,

30:30

you know,

30:33

it's not your fault.

30:35

Just be at peace and,

30:42

you know, just follow

30:45

your purpose. And

30:53

that sense of confusion and that sense of loss,

30:56

lessons, which

30:58

allows me to refocus

31:04

and continue to pick up the mission again to

31:06

try to locate the crash site. It's

31:09

getting further and further away. I can feel it less

31:11

and less and less. It

31:15

followed me for a little while, but then eventually

31:17

it was making distance from me. I

31:19

don't know if it stayed where it was

31:22

and I continued

31:22

to walk. So that's what created the distance

31:24

or it walked in the opposite direction.

31:27

But as I approached

31:30

the crash site, the closer I got, the

31:32

less I felt of that younger

31:34

male presence.

31:38

Then now I gear

31:41

up again and I resume

31:44

the police work.

31:46

Because at that point, there's still lives that

31:49

need to be considered,

31:51

you know, not just for the unfortunately

31:53

for those that perished in the crash, but

31:56

for those that are responding that,

31:58

you

31:59

know, are trying to. to search

32:01

and rescue.

32:07

When I punch out and I go home, they

32:09

follow me home. You

32:12

know, I bring them home with me. And

32:14

when it's just me, that was fine,

32:17

because I had, you know, I could

32:19

cope with it. I had skills

32:21

that helped me manage it. Now

32:25

I have a family, so it's different. You

32:28

know, I have young children, so they're

32:31

more impressionable, and I definitely

32:33

want to protect them.

32:39

I requested, you know,

32:41

a transfer so that I could

32:43

get off of patrol work. I

32:46

mean, I'm no longer responding to people in crisis.

32:50

Right now, I just really am

32:53

considerate about my kids. I

32:56

just don't want them to be exposed.

33:01

Maybe down the road, there

33:03

might be a reason why I would want to

33:05

open myself up again. I'm not sure what that would

33:07

be.

33:09

I'd have to take it, you know, as

33:12

it comes.

33:26

Thank you, Kevin, for

33:29

sharing your story with us. The original

33:32

score was by Leon Morimoto, it was

33:34

produced by Annie Nguyen. You've

33:51

done it. And this path had many different ways

33:54

and this path had many dark turns along the

33:56

way, but you have made it to the end. Understanding.

34:00

It's your prize. If

34:02

it feels like you've reached a new level, it's because

34:04

you have. But the

34:06

Cup of Knowledge is never full. The Well

34:09

of Darkness runs deep. And

34:11

remember, if you like your storytelling

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34:24

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34:26

you see the figure waiting at the boat,

34:29

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34:34

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34:36

whom this journey would be impossible.

34:39

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34:41

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34:43

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34:46

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34:48

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34:51

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34:55

My name is Glenn Washington. Some

34:57

people believe everything they hear, but they know

34:59

nothing. Some people know

35:01

plenty, but they believe nothing. Now

35:05

you know what you know. I

35:07

only ask that you believe just

35:10

one thing. Just

35:13

understand, appreciate, and believe that

35:16

you should never, ever, never,

35:19

never, never, never, ever, never, ever,

35:22

ever, turn

35:24

out. The

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Lights.