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are delving deep. and

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deeper into hell. That is right

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folks. We've got a full recap

2:05

ahead of us. So

2:07

get ready to get knocked

2:09

off your coal mining asses because this one

2:11

is going to be wild. This was a

2:13

super sized episode. That's when they really want

2:15

to screw you. You think you can feel

2:17

miserable with an hour episode. They throw an

2:19

hour and a half episode out of you.

2:21

That's true misery and we keep coming back

2:23

for more. So we'll get into

2:25

all that. How are you guys? Are you

2:28

good? I hope you've enjoyed the show so

2:30

far. Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard, Castmates Bria and Jasmine

2:32

on Tuesday. We had the amazing Jolene Lunser

2:34

giving us a state of the Vanderpump Rules

2:37

Union yesterday and then Monday,

2:39

of course, Kempire. So these are great episodes.

2:42

I am so lucky to be able to

2:44

talk to the people that I do, but

2:46

now it is just me and you trying

2:48

to figure this out. I'm slowly losing my

2:50

mind over the last four years and I

2:52

think by the end of this season, I

2:54

will have fully snapped. So we're going

2:56

to do this recap of Vanderpump Rules today and

2:58

then come back Friday for a full recap of

3:00

the Valley Season 1 Episode

3:03

2. And I will

3:05

be sharing some of the details of my

3:07

night at Jackson Studio City.

3:09

Jackson's Saloon, his old

3:11

saloon where he charges $16 for a scoop

3:14

of beer cheese. I'll talk

3:16

about my run in with Jackson, Kristen

3:19

Doty and Luke and that whole

3:21

gang. I got to hang out many

3:23

times. Mary Payne from the Fing Shade

3:25

Podcast. Love her podcast and her producer

3:27

Ingrid and that was a blast. I

3:30

talked a little bit about it on Patreon today.

3:33

Hello, baddies over there. But I'll give you a

3:36

lot of dirt on Friday with that because that

3:38

fits more with the Valley. But it was some

3:41

pretty funny moments and I keep thinking about certain

3:43

conversations I had, which I want to tell you

3:45

about. But we got a lot

3:47

of stuff to do today. So we're going to hop right in. I do

3:49

want to say a quick I had a

3:52

couple of cameos that I did that I wanted

3:54

to shout out as well. Melissa, happy

3:56

birthday. I sent you a cameo yesterday. You

3:58

just had your birthday. Your husband

4:00

gave you a cameo and I just I loved

4:03

your husband's message about you so much And I

4:05

wanted to say happy birthday on here. I hope

4:08

you're doing good I think you enjoy

4:11

these so I wanted to give you a shout

4:13

out and also I wanted to give a shout

4:15

out to Courtney I gave her a pep talk

4:17

on can you imagine asking for a pep talk

4:19

from me? But I tried to

4:21

do one so Courtney. I hope that how

4:23

I've we never hear from Courtney again She's

4:26

like well, obviously there's just no hope for

4:28

anybody after that pep talk. Listen, I will

4:30

never tell you how to live your life

4:32

I barely know how to live mine, but

4:35

I will say I really enjoy talking about

4:37

Vanderpump rules I also want

4:39

to say and Jolene Lunser who I talked to yesterday is

4:41

great at this and I wanted to kind of do The

4:43

same thing is just remind you guys I

4:46

like to You know,

4:48

this is kind of this is like a lot

4:50

of joking about these people and this show There's

4:53

more of a humorous bent. I will tell

4:55

you exactly how I feel. We might have

4:57

disagreements You might completely be

4:59

enraged by certain opinions I have but

5:01

that's okay. Everybody can have their own

5:03

take on this This is my take.

5:06

This is how I see it. I

5:08

also after the recap I want to

5:10

talk about the Vanderpump rules after show that's

5:13

on peacock Because there was so much information

5:15

on there this week that it was mind-blowing.

5:17

It was mind-blowing I mean truly I'm gonna

5:19

give you some of the details after we

5:21

do the recap Cuz I was I mean

5:23

the episode was pretty good and then I

5:26

went to the the after show and I

5:28

was slack-jawed I was like Zuik's.

5:30

Oh my god. What there was

5:32

so much information where I was

5:34

like, how are you not putting this

5:36

into the show? I was thinking about

5:39

the art of storytelling as you do when you

5:41

watch a show like Vanderpump rules And

5:43

I was listening to this this great

5:45

movie director Edward Zwick He

5:48

has a fantastic Memoir

5:50

out right now about his career and he

5:52

was talking about the art of storytelling, you

5:54

know, and that the audience is You

5:57

know, we are smarter than

6:00

a lot of media will give us

6:02

credit for is that sometimes you don't have

6:04

to explain so much to the audience because we're already

6:06

there. You don't have to

6:08

tell us everything because we already

6:10

sometimes assume something going into a

6:12

scene. And I was thinking about the, you

6:15

know, the challenge of Vanderpump

6:17

Rules in this season and

6:19

in this day and age, because we

6:22

have so much information, we almost have

6:24

more information than the show itself. So

6:26

like I always talk about that 360

6:29

viewing experience that it's not just the

6:31

show anymore. It's the podcast. It's the

6:33

horrible New York Times interviews. It's all

6:35

of these things on top of the

6:37

show. And we used

6:39

to say about storytelling is that you want

6:41

to show, you don't want to tell you

6:43

want to show you want to show the action you don't want to

6:45

tell. But it's hard. Because

6:48

you can't like this isn't a documentary,

6:50

you kind of have to plan ahead

6:52

in a certain sense. And you want

6:54

to try to get real moments, but

6:57

it's nearly impossible. But I will say

6:59

there are still some mind blowing elements

7:01

like how are we just finding out

7:03

now that Schwartz drunkenly like tried to

7:05

make out with Sheena in Vegas over

7:07

a decade ago? Like what is going

7:09

on? Like, can we maybe sit like I have a

7:11

corporate meeting with all the cast and the crew

7:13

and the executives and say, Hey, real quick, we're

7:15

planning ahead on the next couple

7:18

of seasons. Who the fuck fucked each

7:20

other here? Just tell us now because

7:22

we are going to find out like

7:24

it shorts just aside. Like listen, my,

7:26

my boy's handleballs been having a hard

7:28

season. I'm gonna fuck I was

7:30

gonna take this to the grave, but I guess I'll head

7:32

it out. I tried to make

7:34

out with Sheena. Yeah. How

7:36

is this just coming out now? And it

7:38

scares the hell out of me. Because I'm like,

7:41

what don't we know? What don't we

7:43

know? Who has Ken made out with? I'll

7:45

try to make out with all the other

7:47

kids. I'll come over. Did that Lisa?

7:50

Please look at me. Like what is

7:52

like you with Lisa like Nick

7:54

Elaine. We were putting together a

7:56

wolf in beautiful tone. It's like

7:58

a sexy environment. the sexiest restaurant

8:00

to work at and it was

8:02

just so passionate I had to

8:04

grab Nick Elaine and we just

8:06

started making out

8:08

it was so sexual

8:11

I'm just so scared like

8:13

how how we sat on that

8:16

like Sheena will tell us information about

8:18

everything but she sat on that was

8:20

that like a in case of emergency

8:22

break the glass and tell this I

8:25

would and this Max Boyans this we find

8:27

out that that Katie potentially did the hippity-dippity

8:29

with Max Boyans and I want to remind

8:31

you Max used to be a

8:33

cast member for one season it didn't go

8:36

well but this Max now has thrown down

8:39

with so many of the Vanderpump rule I mean this

8:41

guy is a undercover legend

8:43

remember Dana Cathern who was on that

8:45

one season they were hooking

8:47

up and then remember Kristen Dody

8:50

and Max Boyans hooked up. Fina

8:52

of course also enjoyed Max Boyans

8:54

remember bottom the Apple Watch obviously

8:57

he got the Apple Watch in exchange for

8:59

being able to track him on

9:01

on Apple products which we find out

9:03

that Sheena has the location

9:05

set for 56 people I

9:07

will say I've offered Sheena my location

9:10

and she she doesn't want it

9:12

she's like no I'm good I'm like sure I mean

9:14

I don't you know like I who knows I don't

9:16

know I'm good Brock's like

9:18

I don't take it I don't want your location

9:20

Ryan really that I mean

9:23

so much little pieces of insanity that

9:25

we'll get into but the Max Boyans

9:27

have it all I was just like

9:29

a Katie Maloney what and Kate by

9:31

the way this is also hysterical

9:33

of the discourse around this of like

9:35

how dare Katie really it's back on

9:37

the woman again wait we're not like

9:39

how dare Schwartz I'm telling you Schwartz

9:41

just comes off better on television he's

9:44

a fun hang so we forgive him

9:46

so much more but like Katie is

9:48

like how long have they been divorced

9:50

now it's been a couple of years

9:52

on top of the separation and like

9:54

how many times did Schwartz

9:56

like I don't know, make out, cheat, hookup,

9:58

cheat. It wasn't just the sheen you know

10:01

why they would like multiple instances. remember that

10:03

was it the trip to Cabo or something

10:05

or only got hammered that he went on

10:07

like there were a slew of instances that

10:10

katie actually either santa for sell for and

10:12

also the average on tell you you're gonna

10:14

be in raids because humans animals like outta

10:16

town like I think he threw herself at

10:19

Max dude. You. Know I just love

10:21

that what has positioned as I gov

10:23

that's that's could help him mad like

10:25

he he tried to escape the katie

10:28

was just so dominant commentary like max

10:30

literally when cities place that it was

10:32

like. She game

10:34

a full glass of scotch like oh no.

10:36

Like I just love how it's put this.

10:39

Is. So insane. Also congratulations goes

10:41

out to our he automatics. See.

10:44

Was named as the new host for

10:46

Love Islands. Which. I I

10:48

I I hate This. I. Don't

10:50

really. I'm. Sorry, I don't I

10:53

don't brag about myself a lot. Loses

10:55

very. I always make fun of myself.

10:57

In fact, I. Feel comfortable making fun

10:59

of all these people because I say always

11:01

that I'm the number one dork. then I'll

11:04

make fun of everybody else. But I said

11:06

this multiple times last year that I think

11:08

are you on it would be an excellent

11:10

host and she would end up hosting Love

11:12

Island when they I said it multiple times

11:15

and it came through. Now Sarah Hyland for

11:17

Modern Family was the initial hosts for Love

11:19

Island for two seasons. The Usa version. I

11:21

became a fan of the Uk version a

11:23

couple of seasons ago and it just it's

11:26

a time commitment with it's really fantastic. Sarah

11:29

Hyland unfortunately I think has a nother shoot

11:31

that she was doing within that time frames

11:33

of could do this season and Henri on.

11:35

I had already done like a guest hosting

11:37

thing on Love Island so I thought yeah

11:39

that I mean this is exactly what exactly

11:42

what you need to you. Is

11:44

that Ariana? Just and and for for

11:46

me for you out there. What you

11:48

do through times of trouble? Just keep

11:51

your head down and just work. People

11:53

are gonna throw shit out. Yes, people

11:55

are gonna levy insults at you. Just

11:57

keep your head down and work. Do

12:00

the work and people are going

12:02

to hate you regardless. You know, it's like, but that's

12:04

all Ariana's doing. Ariana's not in the Instagram stories going

12:06

like, fuck Lala. No, she's

12:08

just working. Like, I think

12:10

that's the only thing, you know, just do the

12:12

work. And she is doing the work. So I

12:15

am so proud of that fact is that she's

12:17

not getting caught up in some of this bullshit,

12:19

like they're trying to bring her into it right

12:21

and left. And she's been really, I

12:23

mean, like, I don't think I could be nearly

12:25

as, as strong or patient with some

12:28

of the shit that I'm reading and seeing out

12:30

there. But yeah, just keep your head down, man.

12:32

You got a $1.6 million house. You

12:34

finally did that. You get to finally move

12:36

out. You got Broadway. What a dream. And

12:38

now you get to do a hosting thing.

12:40

Now everybody says, well, does this mean

12:43

she's off Vanderpump rule season 12? I

12:45

will say now, remember love Island is

12:47

an NBC universal production as well. So

12:49

this is within the same family as

12:51

Bravo. It's all connected. Now

12:54

I'm not saying that I'm just saying from

12:56

a business standpoint, if somebody that's read the

12:58

trade since I was a kid is that

13:00

I think there is a world in which that there

13:03

would be a, I don't

13:05

know, and I don't like, I have no information

13:07

on this at all, but I would also imagine

13:09

since NBC universal, there's a sweetening of the pot.

13:12

Like if you're the host over here at love

13:14

Island, you're amazing. Could we then get you

13:16

to sign up for season 12 of Vanderpump rules? But

13:19

at the same time, I don't know if Vanderpump rule season

13:21

12. I don't know if Ariana needs that. I

13:23

think at a certain point it is.

13:26

But I love that I say like, Hey,

13:28

big, big thought here. Maybe the environment's toxic.

13:30

Has anybody ever thought about that? Anybody

13:33

stopped to think that maybe this isn't

13:35

good for anybody's overall mental health. But

13:37

at the same time, it's a paycheck. It is a

13:40

paycheck. You just have to put up with all the

13:42

bullshit surrounding that paycheck. And I guess

13:44

at the end of the day, when you're

13:46

trying to retire someday, it, uh, you

13:49

know, it probably makes everything a little bit

13:51

better, but I just, it's

13:53

just, it's just a tornado of

13:55

negativity all the time. Every Tuesday

13:57

night. It's like something new. But

14:00

so many funny moments in this as well

14:02

which will get into I want to think

14:04

Juliana Kuroda who is back to taking notes

14:06

on Vander Pump Rules he started this week

14:08

and oh my god she is just incredible.

14:10

I was gone over her nose was watching

14:12

the for a third time and I I

14:14

just I love her so myself they usually

14:17

on a Groza use your the Beverly Hills

14:19

notes and not indebtedness issues as easy as

14:21

to do banner have rules and I was

14:23

like listen if you want that kind of

14:25

misery but she's always amazing to think usually

14:27

on and thank you to you guys are

14:29

coming here. Let's up on with this today

14:31

and reminder: come back on Friday for the Valley

14:33

which is actually fun! I was at the The

14:36

Jax A Saloon. I was talking to Dodi and

14:38

I said. It is funny covering

14:40

the valley because you'll and the for

14:42

it at first episode and even though

14:44

it's like it's the valleys already relatively

14:46

dark and toxic, it is more fun

14:48

to recap because I don't have the

14:50

insane amount of negative feelings that I

14:52

do for Banner Bump Rules yet for

14:54

the Valley. I'm sure we'll get there

14:56

by episode for every. There's already some

14:58

really ridiculous things but it almost seems

15:00

like like a like a fun little

15:02

Disney tv show. you know like woo!

15:04

This is all Sweden fun and it's

15:06

in the Valley. Bright. And sunny

15:09

instead of the misery of Tom's animals

15:11

doing breath work in his living room

15:13

and feeding my of five hundred laxative

15:15

pills and hair coloring what the fuck

15:17

is that? can we call the S

15:19

P C A my daughter? we still

15:21

don't argue that this man ah it

15:23

is not thinking about himself. Twenty four

15:25

seven oh sorry dude that was oddly

15:27

is obviously a mistake man. Miami's the

15:29

lose weight to do like poor my

15:31

any time you see I see the

15:34

dog now on the show on litter

15:36

like his his dog run and other.

15:38

Shit somewhere like the dog is like

15:40

what is going on Mad worry, why

15:42

are you leaving hair coloring all around?

15:45

You're a grown man. I almost able

15:47

to your mates up sticks so help

15:49

me God Okay, this is the description

15:52

the cable company gives us. The episode

15:54

titled is called Kiss Kiss Revenge Bang.

15:57

So. obviously a play on the movie kiss kiss bang

15:59

bang i I love that movie with Robert

16:01

Downey Jr. and Val Kilmer. Oh, so

16:03

good. This is Kiss Kiss Revenge Bang,

16:05

obviously, Katie Maloney and Max Boyens, potentially,

16:07

and then Kiss Kiss, the Sheena and

16:09

Schwartz. And this is the

16:12

description. Schwartz makes a startling revelation to

16:14

LaLa about a past hookup that sends

16:16

Katie spiraling. Was Katie spiraling?

16:19

Katie seemed pretty chill about it.

16:21

Like spiraling? Katie was like, well,

16:23

I should be

16:25

more shocked, but I guess I'm not. And

16:28

then, James, DJ James Kennedy hosts

16:30

a DJ night at Hotel Ziggy.

16:33

Ariana and Katie encounter new issues in opening

16:35

their sandwich shop. And Brock

16:37

drops a bombshell about a recent

16:39

liaison. And then we

16:41

get the previously on Vanderpump Rules. We have

16:43

a scene with Ariana and Katie talking about

16:45

Tom wanting to buy her out. And Katie's

16:47

like, if he has that money, go buy

16:49

something else. And then that scene with Schwartz

16:51

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talk about Joe because I have not really

18:50

complicated feelings. I do have to say, I

18:53

feel bad about that, that the hotel Ziggy

18:55

and her being picked on. But I also

18:57

say at the end of the day, you

19:00

know, and I've said this now multiple times,

19:02

this a lot of this falls on Schwartz,

19:04

man, Schwartz should not put her in this

19:06

lion's den. This is a pit of vipers.

19:09

Everybody, every one of these cast

19:11

members at one point, including Ariana has been

19:13

a pit of vipers. Like that is just

19:15

how it is. Like, so Joe knows what

19:17

she has gone into. And also, Joe did

19:19

what she did. You know, Joe

19:21

pretended she was friends with Katie ended up

19:23

hooking up with Schwartz. That's like whatever that's

19:25

even dead on top of it. She

19:28

knew full damn well, what was going

19:30

on with the artist formerly known as

19:32

Raquel and Sandoval. They were literally going

19:34

on double dates. And I'm sorry, keep

19:36

lying all you want. Schwartz,

19:38

Joe, keep lying all you want. But

19:41

they knew, you knew, you knew

19:43

period. And for

19:45

you to play both sides, Joe, that's why

19:47

you're not going to get like this welcome

19:50

introduction, you probably wouldn't get have got like

19:52

a big open arm welcome anyways, because

19:54

you're a newbie. But like, I'm sorry,

19:56

yes. And it sucks. ADHD sucks. I

19:58

have it myself. The understand that but

20:01

yes, your behavior is bizarre. I'm sure you

20:03

been told that your entire life and hopefully

20:05

you can lean into that as it seems

20:07

like you have and you have your tribe

20:10

of people. But don't play both sides of

20:12

the feds. Don't do spooky behavior and then

20:14

expect to be loved by everybody. I mean

20:16

listen, you only seem to wanna be loved

20:18

by one person Schwartz and he's given you

20:21

what he carries, these given you what again.

20:23

Anyways, we have that see was Schwartz is

20:25

like by the way everyone in my life

20:27

whenever I bring you around you know I.

20:30

Say of a Joseph, you'll be like always

20:32

it is is Mrs. Servants was like. That's

20:34

really weird because some people know that we've

20:36

had sex of angels like. A

20:40

full of anger. Earth. And

20:43

then of course we the Alley and Joe seen

20:45

last week. Now I'll he plays it right Alley. My.

20:47

Things jos a little weird but also says

20:49

hey, I wanna be inclusive you know and

20:52

and Alleys new to the group as well.

20:54

I love how Alley comes about this, but

20:56

alleys like yeah, I'm friends with Ariana, I'm

20:58

friends with Katie. Want you to feel welcome

21:00

in this group. And then

21:02

and that seen last week where Sandoval cried in

21:04

his closet with the door open even though he

21:06

could have shuttered be one of the cameras as

21:08

he switches like you down bad brother, your the

21:11

tail end of this. Food. Know

21:13

that is not even remotely accurate. Do you have

21:15

no idea what kind of interviews I'm going to

21:17

give after we wrap filming of Will Do the

21:20

New York Times? Have you to do the Nick

21:22

File Feel no Do. This is not even remotely

21:24

close to being over we have seen would you

21:26

did Him can see the sand of off entire

21:29

always like a you don't think if he was

21:31

small enough you could have ended things with already

21:33

on and actually make things work out and is

21:35

just the animals. The slogan them like. Work.

21:38

With or use and do agree that would have

21:40

been another like suitable has all of these opportunities.

21:43

As I served him on a silver platter, it

21:45

would have been a literal thing of all. Sandoval

21:47

had a say in that moment. Obliged. I

21:51

just I'm just a coward in some

21:53

ways and I'm so scared and I

21:55

did something really bad. And.

21:57

I'm human and I don't know. I

22:00

mean like I mean like it's just that,

22:02

the fight in him to still defend the

22:04

something that is kind of indefensible and then

22:07

to keep doubling and tripling down. And in

22:09

a sense it's working like production really is.

22:11

Given this man all of the tools and

22:13

opportunities. And like I said yesterday, it seems

22:15

like they're bringing more people on. Maybe I

22:18

see this on the pitcher and his ex.

22:20

It seems like they're bringing all of these

22:22

people on to go against our Yada is

22:24

like a who's who of rogue villains. Like

22:26

a Rogues Gallery of Villains to call man

22:29

and kind of support Sandoval. And kind

22:31

of like in subtle ways, talk shit

22:33

about Ariana. It's funny, it's like they

22:35

are really backing Sandoval in so many

22:37

ways. And I think that I mean I

22:39

guess really as you yourselves what you

22:41

would do in that situation. On.

22:44

Block or some advice on the boats like yo

22:46

Dude, you have still yet to say it was

22:48

fucked up for me to say that you need

22:50

to be real. A while I was fucking my

22:52

best but my girl's best friend and simply because

22:54

it was talking six years of law. And

22:57

then at us and of in that scene last

22:59

week at the bar and she actually made a

23:01

point is that if you could just take your

23:03

ego out in san of all with you know

23:05

the own brain nail polish was like it's not

23:07

an ego thing due to. And.

23:09

Than we thought the the ultimate villain

23:11

Jack Taylor back at the very end

23:14

of love and of have ruled last

23:16

week. Use Like you say, you need

23:18

a humble yourself a little bit. You

23:20

are literally a disgrace brother. As.

23:23

A source This animal goes. You.

23:25

Need a little love? It's time to heal.

23:27

And that is where we start with

23:30

that. The mods are these are the

23:32

best days of our lives. And we

23:34

start their the The song plays like

23:36

let's go yet either like that when

23:38

I put them down I'll play around

23:40

and put it down there and never

23:42

stress, never settle for less. Never said

23:45

a bonus. now I'm gonna take it

23:47

all. A jet flies overhead. Dj James

23:49

Keenan these domiciled in Burbank Duty Games.

23:51

Can these nosing around alleys closet with

23:53

Hippie the dog helping them and James

23:55

I sit Good boy good boy hippie.

23:57

Okay. Do you think mobiles going to look good?

24:00

This, He's literally putting together alleys out.

24:02

But he's like he's like Connie a

24:04

West used to do for Kim Kardashians and

24:06

alleys like are you picking up my

24:08

close Yes, Me and hippie are picking

24:10

close out for you Say mister So you

24:12

hop on her hippie. Take a seat,

24:14

take a seat, sit sit sit and

24:16

Alice access to it. I like this

24:18

as a side. what about it As they

24:20

don't Bobby Moment: He's holding up a

24:22

white dress in a pink personality and

24:24

the talking heads like listen, I'm not a

24:27

shopper Sir James He picks up my

24:29

clothes. He seems. My dresses For me this

24:31

is very Tom Sandoval I'm not watching for

24:33

like warning like red flags for the future

24:35

like this Seems like Tom sounds like dude

24:38

of on doesn't like a Star Wars jet.

24:40

I I'm gonna need you to dress like

24:42

principally a dude. I'm James

24:44

like I rooted you and by tonight for

24:46

my Dj gig at a hotel Ziggy did

24:48

you end up inviting Joe I get really

24:50

sets good from what I've seen of her

24:53

like you know in person she seems very

24:55

nice, like she's a little bit like she

24:57

says some weird stuff sometimes in alleys a

24:59

galaxy sweet like I'm not trying to be

25:01

best he's with our am I going to

25:03

like share my secrets with her? Which alley

25:05

what are those secrets we tell us which

25:07

is like a lot of feel how I

25:09

feel comfortable coming to things like wish wards.

25:12

This is a great attitude to have alley.

25:14

I love a James and as I

25:16

can at least two nights on Dj

25:18

that hotel Ziggy! It's going to be

25:20

the woodstock of this generation on Sunset

25:22

Boulevard. There's no like you can com

25:24

and you cannot com. Every one is

25:26

always invited to my party's I will

25:29

show up D J Crew, Tj equipment

25:31

and a crowd and you will have

25:33

the best position place has seen in

25:35

a long time. Guaranteed.

25:37

Oh your money back? I

25:39

did. You get him, Kennedy is going to

25:42

end up selling term Life insurance. Have you

25:44

ever thought about the loss of a

25:46

loved one? Well we fidelity term life insurance.

25:48

you no longer have to worry system as

25:51

Alagoas. Yeah I think the last time we

25:53

were there was when I I had

25:55

that awkward first meet up with retell to

25:57

that was last season was at hotels again.

26:00

Hotel Ziggy obviously is a very

26:02

specific area haunted place itself. Now

26:04

we had a flashback to one

26:06

year ago. We actually see the

26:08

artist formerly known as Retell. Ah,

26:11

Rachel goes wrong. We see her the

26:13

actually give user enters because he signed

26:15

the contract and we've lived better. That

26:17

scene Where do you to James The

26:19

news I why retail fucking pulling Ali

26:21

aside for conversation both right there. Law

26:23

and Aliza retells like i appreciate your

26:25

guys relationship because he would have been

26:27

completely difference if he didn't have you.

26:29

And you tell Raquel as a whole.

26:31

Lot. Of the Earth and cases.

26:33

Like a lot saying since said, that's

26:36

for damn sure analysis. Everything's changed since

26:38

then. And and hippies like. Ah,

26:42

And these incentives like literally everything and

26:44

then we do not over to Studio

26:47

City over Dorion and Tom's Dungeon and

26:49

Valley Village. An animal has is white

26:51

and the white noise machine like. It's

26:58

in front of his bat bedroom door. And

27:00

you know our favorite Billie are a resident

27:03

Kiss ass Billie walks in the room with

27:05

I and syllable like yo yo dude what's

27:07

up has gone. It's. Like clean

27:10

in here? Yeah is yeah.

27:12

Oh. Every time I com or go from

27:14

your house I did So fucking nervous.

27:16

Why. Because. Arriola Is she

27:19

coming to hotel? Ziggy on? Oh no,

27:21

Do I mean James is Dg? Mere

27:23

thought. I would imagine that he invited

27:26

her abilities like I'm gonna bring my.

27:28

Girl see. Why?

27:30

I love this is the girl either

27:32

that at the the the Weirdo pool

27:34

party last the Boogie Nights pool party

27:36

last episode Billie lose Like what about

27:38

my friend? See ah? have you ever

27:40

like Listen, I know you're trying to

27:42

be supportive of your friend Tom Sandoval.

27:44

I guess you know, whatever. even with

27:46

like, even if you're trying to be

27:48

supportive like. The. Shit was interview in

27:50

the pool party with those two random girls.

27:53

Like all that shit you're still like hey

27:55

this is my friend see she's down to

27:57

like hook up with you. I'm like why

27:59

would. Whoever put your friend. In

28:01

this. In. In this like that

28:04

just doesn't feel like good friends with. Tom

28:06

is not been exhibiting anything even on a

28:08

casual level that I would be like. you

28:10

know who I should hook Tom up with?

28:12

You know who's good. He. Is

28:15

enough we would be good with farm

28:17

right now. Six bit of my threatened

28:19

was like. Listen. Would.

28:22

You ever date onset of ought to be like

28:24

right now. like after all this yeah like you

28:26

know cause you can't be like super good guy

28:28

Amazing. Like what do you like you to Zelig?

28:31

You do you like your yogi music? Like what

28:33

would you say to get your friend to go

28:35

along but I just love it. It's like why

28:37

are you have been out your friend t. As.

28:40

Animals like oh yeah, dude. Okay, cool.

28:42

We flashback to six days earlier at

28:44

Hamza swinging single pool party and billion

28:46

lead at the pools like yeah, I

28:48

see so fucking evil than why are

28:50

you continuing to live here Across the

28:53

hall and the pool girls giggle like

28:55

really, this is why this is what

28:57

you should be scared of Ariana because

28:59

you shit talker. Why? Would any

29:01

but why would she I had this

29:03

is what like you shit talker. Like.

29:06

I also don't Still, you're never going to get me

29:08

to understand of like. Tom. Did the

29:10

bad deed. Maybe he should leave for a

29:12

while and be like. Totally. Get

29:14

a dude I don't know a thing as I'm

29:16

going to go crass. It's worth it for like

29:18

couple months. like if you know like it's it's

29:20

just weird I but all the own is obviously

29:22

balls on Ariana because his woman said of as

29:25

I got in the pool is a sorry we're

29:27

talking about my roommates It's not a big deal

29:29

due to just last year for at me out

29:31

with us your relationship it was like ten years

29:33

but I'm Bob. A Tip: your waiters out there

29:35

be buddy. Ah Billie in this seems

29:37

like. Melt. The you need to

29:40

jump into another relationship. It's literally just

29:42

very casual and channels like I mean

29:44

I did just wash my see seats.

29:46

So and then Billie was like. This.

29:52

Isn't funny? like? what? Is that? There's not it. Like.

29:55

Willingly. Is allegedly a comedian? Like a stand

29:57

up like this isn't funny Like I washed my

29:59

sheets. Like hey, thanks for offering

30:01

up your friend for sex with

30:03

a killer I wash my sheets.

30:06

And belittling made leans on

30:08

some. May say you this Richard Pryor

30:10

we got a Dave Chappelle Enormous really

30:12

is like only if you don't like

30:14

live with your ex girlfriend and you

30:16

could have people over a success and

30:18

sounds like everybody a roommate dude come

30:20

on his L A Billie least I

30:23

think they're like living with your mom

30:25

and then like living with your ex

30:27

girlfriend and gerald like. Which. One

30:29

is worth using abilities like definitely ex

30:31

girlfriend and said of all chuckles it's

30:33

just it's it's good. Old fashioned fonts

30:35

settled like will look. Dude, I know

30:38

what's going on with Ariana but I

30:40

love this house. It's a great

30:42

health. I. Like that he talking about it like Steve

30:44

Martin at the beginning of Father of The Bride of like.

30:47

I. Love this house! I raised my family and

30:49

their cells and now my daughter's going to get

30:51

married in the backyard. He's talking about like it's

30:53

all I'd just like. Due. To

30:55

do like. I just so weird that I

30:57

love this house due to a fuck Raquel

31:00

for the first time in the driveway of

31:02

this house. So. Many magical moments.

31:04

So many mushrooms have been done. In

31:06

this house. But. Anyway, sales like

31:08

Dude I offered I get the ball than

31:10

Oriol of course. dude. Santa Ana Talking Heads

31:13

as about two months ago I my lawyers

31:15

got the letter intensify Ariana how the hell

31:17

for thought market value general to Billie leaguers

31:19

see this hassle respond to an email life

31:21

so we just have some sort of plan

31:23

of action yet of on the Talking Heads

31:25

as is in a very very clear her

31:28

that she will get a check for the

31:30

entire amount and be able to walk away

31:32

free and clear. And I haven't heard anything

31:34

back. Another sounds like pretty good right? Go.

31:36

Watch the after show. Ariana gets more into this

31:39

as well as your hopefully we'll get to. That

31:41

could explain this is. Also

31:43

talk can say whatever he was like. Tom

31:45

will be able to like it'll are like

31:47

I've offered or double the price and were

31:49

just. Guys, this isn't the

31:51

case Billie goes to as you not

31:53

on her fucking door maybe swagger node

31:55

under their oh what Billie along with

31:57

the potato chips you made a big.

32:00

Gotta with those two random girls. Last week

32:02

I saw some potato chips on through the

32:04

dog and I ever lost in a bedroom.

32:08

We breathe on the halls you are A on

32:10

his room where she's putting on makeup as you

32:12

say, signing with Tom's assistant and and and like

32:14

I and or is a high Oh my god

32:16

I miss getting ready for Taylor Swift's and yell

32:19

I think and deserves a break Taylor Swift is

32:21

always good I need a bag I wish Taylor

32:23

Swift A We knew she was watching Banner Pump

32:25

Rules I would love if she saw and in

32:27

the audience is like Taylor's like. The

32:30

swift these are with you

32:32

and protect yourself. Anyways,

32:35

Ari. On is calling go and like listen i want

32:37

to know what it what is deal is you is

32:39

he bogart in downstairs. Ah, So

32:41

many go down there and and you know it's is

32:43

a I'm on the verge like a full burn out

32:45

so I actually need assistance or going to ask you

32:47

if you knew anybody and and like flu birth and

32:50

she puts her face right up to the face and

32:52

cameras like are you want to have. Ib

32:54

in the running please. A regular little

32:57

who had not are on a please.

32:59

And. Are is like of course you can Ariana

33:01

Zoc and I can I explained. listen Anus, we

33:04

deserve much better than my ex boyfriend I don't

33:06

know of I can be the want to do

33:08

a bit. So many needs to save an hashtag.

33:10

Save An. And oriented cells and a

33:12

you know is that it's like I don't want

33:14

him. You know I don't want to get all

33:17

pissed and stuff or be like your Posey my

33:19

assistant you know and handling when I want to

33:21

work or you know, bad bullies who he. He's

33:23

like. I felt like tears were going to be

33:25

involved. like the snotty crying like fifthly his. Release

33:28

with I secretly please. Okay, now I mean

33:30

what are you guys think about that like

33:32

that's a little weird. I mean this is

33:35

a little bit of a story arc so

33:37

I don't know. The. You

33:40

know there's like certain like like real real

33:42

stop and then there's certain things a lego

33:44

that of it with a little story line

33:46

and obviously and doesn't love working for Tom

33:48

but it's a gig like if you're an

33:50

actor it's a gig. Economy like this is

33:52

actually a day to day job you know?

33:54

Ah, we head on over to Creation Organics

33:56

wear shorts his meeting with Law. And.

33:58

Sources: I love. Highly.

34:01

I. Got a theory about Schwartz? Say tell

34:04

you guys the okay. I

34:06

thought this since I'd. That. Pool:

34:09

The pool party as did Kennedy.

34:12

Swartz. Swartz.

34:14

Seems like. There's. A

34:17

lot of moments of like overly

34:19

and settle flirtation with law but

34:21

it's always positioned as a joke.

34:24

It would be like. I. Mean, a

34:26

coupe of my decision you and similar grows up.

34:28

I know it's gross, it's totally gross. It's was

34:30

job. do you even know? But I couldn't make

34:32

out with you. I don't want to do that.

34:34

Well that's why would be a job though. So

34:36

I just like of course the hyper do So

34:38

I'm just so cute, like cuddly and I have

34:40

plans. you know, like there seems to be a

34:42

lot of weird. And. That's what I

34:44

I'm sorry after this episode I'm like shed probably

34:46

lol on shorts have already made up and they're

34:49

just saving it for season fourteen. Less.

34:51

It's like when there is these little moments

34:53

I know I'm just watching too hard, like

34:55

I think my my my my my brains

34:57

even itself like the cast their brains already

34:59

No way. But there's these little jokes and

35:01

like. It. Is always seems like the

35:04

subtle flirtation with I just I think Schwartz

35:06

is good at slinky, subtly flirts with everybody,

35:08

and he's really charming and good at every

35:10

like Asaf. Some just a Teddy Bear on

35:12

Thirty Rock spin on Schwartz Ruff Spin What

35:14

are you talking about? Anyways,

35:17

Short. There at this you know, organic

35:19

smoothie shop and. Sorts explains

35:22

to sober Lol Isaac By the way, on

35:24

in the midst of a sober bender right

35:26

now, three days we're going to do some

35:28

health syringes. Is that offensive in any way

35:30

to tell somebody? So for it that they're

35:32

on a silver bender of got a real

35:35

issue I'm a sober bender man I mean

35:37

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36:51

such as know my god just days is not

36:53

a date Just kidding I'm kidding. That's only do

36:55

in a bit of the actual dialogue. This is

36:57

what I'm talking about. He. Puts his little

36:59

jokes in. there is little feelers like you know

37:02

if something like of lol as ourself one time

37:04

of his leg while you know what what if

37:06

I did you see the auto know you'd have

37:08

to make the verse move but. I. Would

37:10

say no, right? I'm in the midst

37:13

of a sober bender so I'm not

37:15

making the best decisions right now. They

37:17

take this versus the check out and.

37:21

They're. Like okay, everything's good. A

37:23

Chinese health surrenders and. Schwarzer

37:25

as I okay like oh my god is

37:28

like jello shots across the street from Tom

37:30

Tom with me which are my favorite is

37:32

at least high tops he's talking about any

37:35

resources like suda see like like do it

37:37

may like the intertwine arms and suck on

37:39

the syringes. I'm sorry this is erotic. this

37:41

is full auto erotic at this point and

37:44

sources like it was more liquid ignites I

37:46

would have thought it would be a long

37:48

as like you're a rookie yo you to

37:50

squirted on me. When

37:53

I feel awkward, I make sex jokes or I

37:55

talk. About my vagina and little laws

37:57

like. And.

38:05

Been like I'm say lot of flirts. back

38:07

to. Our. Law allowing goes

38:09

I bought have you had low as a

38:11

have you had sober sex ever in your

38:13

life It's was like of course when I'm

38:16

in a relationship a loves over sex. Was.

38:18

Talking about this earlier, What were you

38:20

talking about? His earlier feels like of

38:23

course moderation is king or queen. On.

38:26

Into the woman's move. Must have been

38:28

like I like the occasional bender. sometimes

38:30

with tits. It's Ota. You. Know,

38:33

but I do like the occasional best. Better.

38:35

With sometimes with drug and alcohol sometimes I

38:37

do a celebrity rehab was still as hang

38:39

with Doctor Drew. I mean it was really

38:41

a horrific show. looking back on it and

38:43

I was watching his every week is like

38:45

oh my gods I've ever Joe and I

38:48

realize how dark that is but sometimes like

38:50

swords like. Sometimes. I

38:53

just lived together. sex on a real bender

38:55

with drugs and alcohol. But he says it

38:57

in such a few way. we're like come

38:59

here and we give me a note you

39:02

little hard core sobriety guy. He's a good

39:04

sometimes I do our core sobriety like shots,

39:06

Vitamin beats working out meditation, reading books, any

39:09

John Grisham books, you know, doing this. I

39:11

like both. But really, Lola, it's all about

39:13

moderation. but I like to fall apart every

39:15

once in awhile in a good way. And

39:18

in a bad way. That's fucking nuts. He

39:20

said it's so cute. Like he said it

39:22

like in a good way and a bad

39:24

way and I'm like that's horrific. He's like

39:26

sometimes. People. Can track me

39:29

down for three days. I've never given

39:31

seen a my location. I will literally

39:33

just be lost. Sometimes I'll go under

39:35

a freeway underpass and I'll just do

39:37

weird things to myself. I don't know

39:39

any wastes of quarter. the syringes. And

39:42

long as a yeah it's was like hey

39:44

any was are you gonna ziggy We just

39:46

get off our topic of like To me

39:48

I was like literally nana Maybe that's the

39:50

older I get where I'm like maybe there's

39:52

more conversation about the what does the fully

39:54

falling apart mean like would it would that

39:56

look like for you sometimes A warning water

39:58

my plans for weeks Anyways, yeah. going to

40:00

go a cannibal company like yeah. And.

40:03

Shorts like well we saw Jackson

40:06

Tom Tom oh. Yeah. Josh Homme.

40:08

It's all the hate each other. It's just

40:10

that they haven't seen each other and like

40:12

how long years towards don't rewrite history or

40:14

just fully did. hey Tom Sandoval, let's not

40:16

do that And up By the way if

40:18

you're watching on you tube there is is

40:20

truly to and my hair I just showered

40:22

in this is is here. I love my

40:24

Juri at the Beverly Hills reunion. I didn't

40:26

even like it's like Christopher Reeves last to

40:29

read. I can't Every time I push this

40:31

year back it just falls right back into

40:33

my forehead. So it I swear to God

40:35

says style like decks like don't sell my

40:37

hair. At all. Because

40:39

sometimes or fall apart nudges. you know,

40:41

in a bad way. Anyways, we flashbacks

40:43

of the Sir alley in Two Thousand

40:45

and Nineteen that Holy Territory channels like

40:47

that's the kind of friends you want,

40:50

one that never question you agree with

40:52

you all the time. and that's what

40:54

you would add. Jackson's actually the only

40:56

person on have a problem with his

40:58

you brother. I. Also want to

41:00

mention that at the End of the Valley

41:02

episode one from last week, Jackson Literary in

41:05

the kitchen talking about Christian fucking some dude

41:07

on the couch over there is a is

41:09

that to go to friends you walk through

41:11

since on Saga I give you hard love.

41:13

That's the kind of friend I am the

41:15

it's just a pit of hypocrites. It's is

41:17

and goods. Suggested. Probably remember

41:20

what Tom said not seen as now paired in

41:22

the back to yell a christian. And. It

41:24

was shorts his eyes Anyway he power through

41:26

persevered yada yada man they are Love and

41:28

Seinfeld Lately we had a flashback the last

41:30

evening. a Tom Tom or Jackson's like I

41:32

don't really have anything else to say about

41:34

it anymore. I think we kind of. It's

41:36

what's the that's how I feel to other

41:38

we both said it you know I want

41:40

the best Where he and sales like like

41:43

was you like was ah here come on

41:45

I'll give you a hug your gun either

41:47

do yeah I'm going to get beauty from

41:49

desert and kid brother. bring it in bring

41:51

it in and towards like it was amazing

41:53

Lola to the. Good yeah, I think

41:55

I have post scannable brain fog

41:57

or it's probably that or it

41:59

could. be the benders and like the

42:01

extreme amounts of molly and mushrooms, but let's

42:04

blame it on Scandal Ball. When I see

42:06

what Tom did compared to what we've all

42:08

done, am I right? Am

42:10

I right? Can I get an A,

42:12

man? I think everybody's cheated in some

42:14

way, right? And Lala's like, yeah,

42:17

of course. Well, everyone's cheated. We've

42:19

all cheated. Like everyone's done stupid

42:21

shit cheated, right? I was a

42:23

make out slut. I

42:26

made out with Sheena like 12 years ago in

42:28

Vegas. Like this is so weird. Like this,

42:30

you know, obviously, you know, you're going

42:32

to do a scene with Lala that's scheduled,

42:35

you have a crew show up. And so

42:37

I'm wondering, did he already tip production off

42:39

that this was going to be a revelation?

42:41

And why now? Why did he do this

42:44

now? Like, I'm so curious. Like this just

42:46

seems something seems amiss in the bringing of

42:48

this up because Schwartz is pretty comfortable with

42:50

lines. So why do a revelation when you

42:53

don't have to? Why do that?

42:55

And by the way, Schwartz very much is a

42:57

make out slut. I mean, very much is a

42:59

make out slut. Also,

43:02

yeah, like listen. And

43:05

also, it's like almost positioned, like Sheena is like one

43:07

of the only people he cheated on Katie with. And

43:10

that's also not anyways, which

43:12

is like, cuz Lala's like, what? And little Lala's

43:14

like, what you fucking don't know? And Schwartz is

43:16

like, nobody knows that. No one

43:18

knows that. Yeah, I mean, it was so long

43:20

ago, it was like the most innocuous thing ever.

43:22

But like, I'm just saying we've all you know,

43:25

we've all done it. Where

43:27

was this Schwartz at the reunion? Where was

43:29

this speech? Like, when your brother is getting

43:32

like, calm down, poo poo head one with

43:34

a mustache. Oh, grow up, man. Oh, the

43:36

crocodile tears you could have shouted out. Hameda

43:39

was seen in Vegas. And Brock's like, what the

43:41

fuck are you talking about, brother? What? Like,

43:44

why now? Why now of all times? And

43:46

it's a slow chipping away, right? It's slow

43:48

chipping away. We see this in politics a

43:50

lot. This slow chipping away of any kind

43:52

of like, it's almost inching the line back

43:54

on what any kind of morality should be.

43:56

And everybody makes up their own

43:58

morality. Everybody obviously makes mistakes, but it's so funny,

44:01

is that really, by the end of the season, it's

44:03

going to be like, listen, if you

44:05

don't get cheated on, it's not a good

44:07

relationship. That's always been my motto. It is

44:09

this slow chipping away at what we should

44:11

expect out of relationships. Like it's just like

44:13

we're just blurring those lines continually, again and

44:15

again, because it wasn't like Schwartz did it

44:17

once and then he learned from that life.

44:19

No, it was like repeated. But also I

44:21

think the other thing is, I mean, it

44:23

is a creepy story when you think about

44:25

it, because she's like, Yeah, he just came

44:27

up, he pulled me to the side and

44:29

just like, try to lay one on me

44:31

on me. And it's really weird. But she know, like,

44:33

she was like a good time girl, you know, she

44:35

was like, laughed it off. But

44:38

this was different. This was a full

44:40

blown relationship that people were

44:42

hiding. There was like, feelings, alleged

44:44

feelings involved. I mean, they went

44:47

to great lengths to hide this.

44:49

I mean, it was different than

44:51

just a, hey, we're at like

44:53

the circus circus in Vegas. And,

44:55

you know, I'm feeling a little randy. And let's

44:57

have like a five second moment. It's

45:00

different. And so it's weird when you're getting

45:02

people to agree, like, isn't that right? lala?

45:04

Isn't that right? Anyways, lala

45:06

is in disbelief. And she's like, you

45:08

made out with Sheena when he's like,

45:10

ha ha, I don't know. But it

45:12

was somewhere in Vegas. That's all I

45:14

know. And she's like pre Katie. Well,

45:17

me and Katie were dating, but it

45:19

was like a rocky moment. We did

45:21

like the entirety of your relationship. Like,

45:24

so if it's a rocky moment, that's like

45:26

a green light means go. lala seems speechless.

45:28

And I will say I think lala is

45:30

continually making horrible judgment

45:33

calls. But I do the one

45:35

thing I do agree with her, I don't know

45:37

if this is real or not. But it does

45:39

seem like she is literally like, what the fuck?

45:41

Who the fuck are these people? Like she's almost

45:43

feels like she's waking up, but I still think

45:45

she's making horrible judgment calls. And I'm

45:47

telling you, she just does it with such a confidence

45:49

that it's like, it's like Schwartz pushing that line back

45:51

like blurring the lines. lala does the same thing. She

45:54

does it with such force and authority that you're like,

45:56

well, maybe and then you realize what the fuck are

45:58

you talking about? You change your opinion. opinion,

46:01

like, you know, I change my old

46:03

Navy jeans, like, well, not actually very

46:05

often, but you know what I'm saying?

46:07

It just changes it a lot. Sports

46:09

in the talking heads like, okay, false

46:11

equivalency. I know, but I just wanted

46:13

to put it out there to really

46:15

confuse the shit out of La La

46:17

and help my brother Sandoval. Let the

46:19

record show just as a reminder, we're

46:21

all human. We all do dumb shit

46:23

sometimes, right? And this is the summer

46:25

of forgiveness. Yeah. Sports

46:28

in the scene goes, well, it just popped in

46:30

my head the other day. Sometime late last year,

46:33

we were at a party like around the holidays.

46:35

And she's like, do you remember when we made

46:37

out? And I was like, we did make out,

46:39

right? We kind of made out. And I was

46:41

like, so she has dabbled in the group. I

46:44

wouldn't say that maybe micro dose. And La La's

46:46

like, I want to be straight up with you

46:48

shorts. Hit me with it, Lala. I'm

46:50

fucking over people lying in my face. And

46:52

she was like, Yeah, she was just also

46:54

the subtext is like, wrong group, right? Hey,

46:56

you're dumb luck. At least you're getting paid.

46:58

Well, I hope the podcast is going well.

47:00

While on the talking head says she and

47:02

I have gotten extremely close, we become each

47:04

other's vault. And it just seems strange to

47:07

me that at no point in time, was

47:09

she like, girl, I got to tell you

47:11

something, I got to spill some tea. Like

47:13

what little Lala was like, I trusted you

47:15

know, what the why did she

47:17

tell me this shit. She

47:19

is just non stop talking about John Mayer. So

47:22

Lala's like, I've heard the John Mayer story

47:24

of Baker's dozen times I've never once heard

47:26

about sports. And that's another thing too. I

47:28

will say this in short with Sheena's defense

47:31

is like she will like spill all of

47:33

this shit. But this she kind of came

47:35

close, kept close to the best. So she

47:37

does protect certain people. So

47:41

yeah, Lala's like, does Katie know and she

47:43

was like, No, I've never told

47:45

Katie the honest truth about anything because I

47:47

don't know if I told Katie and Lala's

47:49

mouth towards you knew if

47:51

you told you shorts stop stop being

47:53

a cutie pie. You know you didn't

47:56

tell Katie you knuckle head. towards like,

47:58

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I

48:00

am so fucking dead and Schwartz puts his head in his

48:02

hands like oh shit. Oh

48:05

do again. Oh Schwartz all

48:07

you did it again, brother. Oh, there

48:09

goes my sober bender Okay, so it

48:12

is later that day and we're at Lala's apartment in West Hollywood Katie

48:15

comes on over there and They're

48:17

talking about dogs whatever and Lala's like well,

48:19

I'm gonna pop a Starla mama don't have

48:21

her baby tonight You know, I wait I

48:23

have something to tell you and Katie's like

48:26

well in that case I better actually have a

48:28

strong drink with alcohol and Lala's like

48:30

you may care or you may not care But

48:32

I was like what and Katie's like what? well

48:35

I had smoothies at creation with Schwartzy

48:38

and he drops on me that a

48:40

few years ago Sheena and I made

48:42

out in Vegas and Katie

48:44

friend. I mean Katie's already friendly, but she

48:46

frowns deeper and Katie's like what? What?

48:51

And Katie they're talking that goes what the actual fuck

48:53

are you kidding me? I just

48:55

have so many questions like when was this and

48:57

where exactly was this and Was

48:59

this the time that Schwartz said he went to Vegas

49:01

and made out with one of Sheena's friends? And was

49:04

it actually in fact Sheena we flash back to 2013?

49:07

We see these little young lovebirds in the back of the

49:09

surrallie and Katie's like Sheena said that you made out with

49:11

someone And she was like that is That

49:15

is not bullshit. That is that's true.

49:17

And Katie just looks hurt This

49:19

Katie has been right all along man And

49:22

I will say it's wild if that like so

49:24

that had to have been Sheena or

49:26

Schwartz made out with multiple girls in

49:28

Vegas that time and that's even darker

49:30

because Sheena actually used that against Katie

49:32

that season when that was revealed That

49:35

like Sheena was the one that revealed Schwartz

49:37

made out with somebody in Vegas But Sheena

49:39

failed to mention that it was her like

49:41

this is so dark the web of lies

49:44

It truly has been going on since the

49:46

beginning of time. The Bible has shit about

49:48

Vanderpump rules in it It's like thou will

49:50

meet a group of toxic individuals on the

49:52

mount They will disobey

49:55

all of the commandments. It will be led will

49:58

be led The hilarity with a

50:01

British accent and a man that looks like

50:03

the If is a dog attached to him

50:05

like a puppet. New. Leave the

50:07

boy woman's and new go. On.

50:11

Go. Katie now underdog niggers d There's so many

50:14

lies in this group it's hard to keep tracks.

50:16

That's what I'm saying this. like every episode, the

50:18

floor muscles feel like it drops out to the

50:20

fact were there. decide. Their. Doesn't

50:22

permit freefall. This cast like their their nerves

50:24

has to be shot like they probably wouldn't

50:26

feel any real emotion anymore. With anything like

50:28

that you're gonna. it's gonna be hard to

50:30

get any kind of surprise reactor now this

50:32

as because they've done everything to everybody like

50:34

there is no loyalty of vipers Anyway cities

50:36

I would was i their lives like I

50:38

don't think you're there is like I can

50:40

think of a time he was in Vegas

50:42

with seen on I wasn't their mothers like

50:44

well you're going as as his hand because

50:46

I wasn't around at that time he gives

50:48

like did yeah seen outlaws like well I

50:50

haven't seen seen I wanted. To talk to you about

50:53

it first. That. That literally the subjects

50:55

is have the like you know jack

50:57

I'm making moves pretty like I always

50:59

think about law now the season you

51:01

know that's on like teacher's pet and

51:03

without from waiting for government Teachers that

51:06

I always like sing the song producers

51:08

that when Lol Items and producers pat.

51:11

A Making Moves. Seducers.

51:13

Pet. Like. You said like my

51:16

girl seen us we fucking get down with each

51:18

other. We are so close I'm succeed in tell

51:20

me Any who gonna go tell Katie first before

51:22

talk My good friend seen us like this is

51:24

what I'm talking about. like you can't be that

51:27

that of friends like you Literally darkness I keep

51:29

seeing a first lot as I make as well

51:31

I would back and forth with Ice Dogs, universe

51:33

or Katie for you know like. And.

51:36

Lol on the kids he goes well I don't love

51:38

that they kept up for so long to like yeah

51:40

Lol I know goes and I decided that I need

51:42

a topic any first. I don't want to give seen

51:44

a time to make this a pretty picture. A

51:47

mate, one good friend. Amazing. It

51:49

happened. And we have a

51:52

song them he goes on and

51:54

say oh my God allows and

51:56

we are now. Add Hotel Ziggy

51:58

the Haunted Establishment on some. Boulevard

52:00

Dj Change Kennedy arise with alleys. He's

52:02

getting greeted by patrons ready to party

52:05

like what's up made on here ready

52:07

to sling the ones and twos. Have

52:09

you ever heard Britney Spears? Toxic? I'm

52:11

going to mess it up with Bittersweet

52:14

symphony folks who broken seen a come

52:16

in next and soon as I feel

52:18

like I definitely go with his vibe

52:21

she's wearing as me on water color

52:23

way be print many dress and then

52:25

Schwartz comes in with our favorites. Joe

52:28

as you buddy of his he

52:30

he gets me Joe it's was

52:32

like joseph what do you want

52:34

How do we shot pool of

52:36

anger towards like. Hello! Know why

52:39

as you you get the same thing every

52:41

time every time I've yet it's Gala I

52:43

love you swords source of the bartenders like

52:45

doesn't matter what kind of tequila patrol of

52:48

you have and buzzy say again what's up

52:50

gang and yo turns around Joe by the

52:52

way as in a backward tom Tom's have.

52:55

You. Noticed fully but like John Conner looks

52:57

like could be like an extra that movie

52:59

the Say Sam Lot you know an updated

53:01

version of like say that's Joe see like

53:03

say like play baseball with the boys. Forces.

53:06

Like rookie you getting dressed up.

53:09

As soon as I guess with her friend

53:11

Madison and she turns the conversation on her

53:13

and she does like well this is a

53:15

very much the by that you know and

53:17

I wanted to get like a suit. Six

53:19

as you Macys duck lives in holds of

53:21

peace sign cent of all. Comes

53:23

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53:25

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53:27

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53:29

times. it is were like this tan Miami

53:32

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54:33

You know, it's like, just wear a normal

54:35

jacket, man. No,

54:38

dude! I gotta look weird, dude! I gotta, I'm a

54:40

rocker, dude! Like, come on, we don't need, like,

54:42

come on. The

54:45

backside of the jacket, like, what? Just

54:48

don't wear a jacket. I'm

54:50

so, I'm just over it. Anyways, Ariana walks in

54:52

solo and she looks awesome. She looks, she's in

54:54

this, like, purple zebra-striped dress. Camera

54:57

shows Santa ball checking her out, like, dude, what's up?

54:59

What's up with that? I

55:01

love the junk in the trunk, dude. And

55:03

she was like, oh my God, Ariana, you look so good!

55:05

Can I, and Ariana spins. And Santa ball to Brock is

55:08

like, Ariana looks great, dude.

55:10

Yeah, good dress for her. Ariana's

55:16

got curves in all the right places, dude. Nice.

55:19

He's like, Brock, I wanted to say something

55:21

to Ariana tonight, but now I'm afraid to.

55:24

But whatever, it's about the house and stuff.

55:26

And Brock's like, hey, if you like the

55:28

first thing you guys should try and do

55:30

is figure out how to start a conversation.

55:32

You know, whatever it is. You can talk

55:34

about sports. I don't know. I

55:36

think we'd all like to see you and her trying to figure

55:38

out how to talk. We're doing a show.

55:41

And Santa was like, okay, dude, well, I'm

55:43

getting ghosted left and right over here. It's

55:45

like the lies I tried to keep telling her about Raquel

55:47

are coming back to haunt me, dude.

55:50

DJ James Kennedy is getting ready to start the show. He's

55:52

like posing. Like, I think half of DJing

55:54

is just posing for pictures. I've just seen

55:56

DJ James Kennedy give like the double deuces.

55:58

He's like, what's up? What's up,

56:00

Ali? Get one of me in the headphones.

56:03

Get one of me with a record up

56:05

on my face. Get one of me spinning

56:07

these wheels of doom that I play. And

56:10

Schwartz walks up to the DJ stand and he's

56:12

like, James, what's up, brew? God,

56:15

I went from bro to brew. Like I can't even

56:17

keep up with the kid. What's up, brew? And he's

56:19

like, what's up? And Schwartz is like, good,

56:23

good, good. Joseph in the

56:25

house. And James is like,

56:27

what's up, Joe? How are you? You

56:30

call her Joseph Schwartz? Yeah,

56:33

I call her Joseph. And then Joe

56:35

in a monster voice goes, Joseph, Joseph,

56:38

Joseph. Buh-buh-buh,

56:40

Joseph. I

56:43

mean, she really, she goes, Joseph,

56:45

whoever. And Sheena

56:47

is looking over at the exchange like, who is

56:49

that monster? And she's whispering to

56:51

her friend Madison. She's like, they're dating. They're

56:53

totally dating. Oh my God. He is throwing

56:55

the hot dog down there. Why are they

56:57

acting like they're not dating? And Sheena is

57:00

talking to me and goes, right now, I

57:02

don't really have a reason to like Joe.

57:04

She like literally drove with Raquel to go

57:06

meet Tom in Big Bear and then left

57:08

Raquel with Santa Ball in Big Bear. This

57:10

is true. This did happen. Sheena,

57:12

we get a flashback to four months earlier at the reunion.

57:15

And then he's like, did you go on double dates with

57:17

Joe and Santa Ball? And Schwartz is like, no, no, we

57:19

did not. And Lala's like,

57:21

you went to Big Bear. But this is

57:23

the other thing too. Like I said, like Schwartz, nice

57:26

guy and stuff like that. But Schwartz is lying. Schwartz

57:28

is lying. Santa Ball was lying. Like it's, you know,

57:30

I know you didn't want to say that in the

57:32

moment, but as I'm saying, things will come out. Like

57:35

five years from now, he's like, okay, we

57:37

were dating. We were double dating. I

57:41

didn't want to say it at the time. Sheena and

57:43

I are talking to Ed like, it was just a

57:45

little homie hang. Like, come on, bitch. You knew. I

57:47

love homie hang. What up? Let's do a

57:50

homie hang. Sheena's back at Ziggy's to Joe.

57:52

And Sheena's like, can I ask why you're

57:54

covering the braid with the hat? And Joe's

57:56

like, no, I'm just,

57:58

I'm sweaty. sweaty Joe. I

58:00

I'm very sweaty all the time. So I

58:02

feel that brother. And she was like, Okay,

58:04

well, just put it in a ponytail. But

58:06

the braids don't cover him with the hat.

58:08

That's all I'm saying like show off your

58:10

work. They are kind of like

58:13

it is a little bit like Stephen King's carry.

58:15

Like they're all gonna laugh at me. I

58:17

do feel at one point like, you know, they're

58:20

gonna like dump a bucket of like red like

58:22

nail polish all over Joe. And they're gonna find

58:24

she has telekinetic power. She's gonna be like, you

58:27

and then like she'll like shut all

58:29

the doors with her brainwaves. And it'd

58:32

be like, boom, boom. And then like

58:34

Sheena will fly up against the door

58:36

and then she'll put a hand that

58:38

way and the only person she won't

58:40

touch is like Schwartz. I love Schwartz

58:42

won't touch him with my telekinesis. But

58:47

it is weird. It's like they are kind of

58:49

like, what are you doing there? It almost like

58:51

a little pushing like take out the hat do

58:53

it take out the hat. And she's

58:55

like just put in a pony tail but the

58:57

braids don't come on. Show up your work and

58:59

they take her hat off and they put it

59:01

on the bar and then Joe grabs it Madison's

59:04

like it's

59:06

like Dogen Lee shakes early. And

59:10

then reaches for a hat and puts it back on. Very

59:14

fizzled. I mean, she would be good in like, like,

59:17

theater like yeah, I don't

59:19

know. It's it's a lot of movement. Madison

59:21

is like, I love you but you can't

59:23

have and Joe's like, you gotta throw it

59:25

in the pool. Aren't you? She's like take

59:27

that hat off. I'm gonna bully you and

59:30

then Sheena gets that emo scream. Oh boy,

59:32

she's like, take that fucking hat off. And

59:34

Joel points at Sheena and laughs over zealously.

59:36

She's like, she

59:40

pulls her hat on tighter like you ain't taking my

59:43

hat. You ain't taking my hat Sheena.

59:47

Jonah talking head very

59:49

calmly. Arms crossed. She's like,

59:51

it's comfortable. It looks good on

59:53

me. Still, Sheena goes, you don't need

59:56

to wear a Tonton hat. You're good.

59:58

And Joe's laughing. He was

1:00:00

the only one I could find. Pull my

1:00:02

finger. Yeah, she's like living

1:00:04

out of Schwartz's place and then Schwartz's closet. Jonah

1:00:06

talking to that goes, I've gotten a lot of

1:00:08

hate from the girls. It's like a

1:00:10

hundred percent bullying. And it's

1:00:13

like not fun, it's horrible.

1:00:17

Now this is sad, right? It is. But

1:00:22

this was to be expected. Did

1:00:24

anybody think when they found out Joe was coming on

1:00:27

and go, well, that'll be nice. That's gonna be really

1:00:29

nice scenes. And I'm sure there'll be a lot of

1:00:31

kumbaya, really nice moments with the girls. No, I a

1:00:33

hundred percent expected this. And like that's

1:00:35

what I said, the onus falls on Schwartz for putting his

1:00:38

friend in this situation. Like you shouldn't

1:00:41

have done this. You really

1:00:43

shouldn't have done this to her. But at the same

1:00:45

time, I think she wants it. I think she wants

1:00:47

the attention. I think she likes it. I've talked to

1:00:49

many people that are in her DMs and she'll like,

1:00:51

she wants this. She

1:00:54

likes this kind of attention. She does. I

1:00:56

mean, she doesn't like this part of it,

1:00:58

but she does like, you know, interacting and

1:01:00

stuff. And somebody was like, cause

1:01:02

I said, hold me closer, tiny Joseph. And I

1:01:04

had that picture. Joe has the first picture you

1:01:07

search for on Google. She's like in like a

1:01:09

lion's pose, like a roar. And

1:01:12

I truly love to watch her, but she's like, this

1:01:14

person was like, well, you blacked her, did I? Yeah,

1:01:17

to that person. I blocked her a long

1:01:19

time ago before she was on the show. I blocked her once

1:01:21

I found out she was doing fucking double dates with

1:01:24

Rocky and Sandoval and Schwartz. That's when I

1:01:26

blocked her. I was like,

1:01:28

fuck her. Like, I'm sorry. I thought it was

1:01:30

gross. I thought it was gross. You can try

1:01:32

to like reframe the narrative and we should like,

1:01:35

oh, tiny violins everywhere. And I do have empathy

1:01:37

and sympathy for her. And you know, ADHD and

1:01:39

stuff like that, it sucks. Like it does. It's

1:01:41

something, it's a, you know, and there, you know,

1:01:43

you can take medicine and you try things, you

1:01:45

know, very brave of her to come on in

1:01:47

a way, but also it is a little bit

1:01:49

self-serving because I do know she wanted

1:01:52

this. But yeah, like, yeah,

1:01:54

it sucks. It sucks to be bullied in any kind

1:01:56

of form or fashion. And I think Sheena

1:01:58

is pissed. Sheena does get

1:02:00

into those kind of moments. And

1:02:03

yeah, it'll be curious to see what Sheena says from

1:02:05

this point on. And I'm still be curious to see

1:02:07

what Joe is like in the reunion. And I'm still

1:02:10

thinking about that turtle she killed last week, when

1:02:12

she told the turtle story, like that turtle

1:02:14

better show up to the reunion. Like what

1:02:16

did you do to me? You draw me

1:02:18

down a great Joe. I know you've had

1:02:20

a tough season, but what about me? I've

1:02:23

literally the last 15 years been

1:02:25

in the sewers. Anyways,

1:02:29

Sheena the Madison's like, if you're a hairstylist, like

1:02:31

sell your work, show your fucking hair, you have

1:02:33

dope braids, show your braids. And she was like,

1:02:35

I don't know why you're always wearing a hat.

1:02:38

And this is when lollar and Katie arrived. So

1:02:41

you know, Katie and lola arrive, everybody's

1:02:43

complimenting each other's outfits, boots, all right,

1:02:45

let's have fun. And she is letting

1:02:47

everybody go and like, listen, I am

1:02:49

drink drinking tonight. All right.

1:02:51

Katie and the talking heads like, Oh, Sheena,

1:02:54

you don't drink drink very often. Well, maybe

1:02:56

because when you do, you make out with

1:02:58

people like my boyfriend, so I wouldn't be

1:03:00

doing that if I were either. Now,

1:03:03

a Santa ball is you know, with Billy

1:03:05

Lee and Joe and Billy

1:03:07

Lee's friend tea that she's trying to pawn off

1:03:09

on Santa ball and sound like, Hey, guys, good

1:03:12

to see you again. Have you

1:03:14

guys ever heard of burning man?

1:03:16

Yeah, all right. Santa balls and

1:03:19

T's like, How you been, dude?

1:03:21

And he's like, Good, how about you? And

1:03:23

channel was like, chillin, dude, chillin. I'm all

1:03:25

right, dude. Um, yeah,

1:03:27

anyways, I like your dress.

1:03:29

She's like, Thank you. It's, um, it's new.

1:03:31

And then Joe's like, I like your face,

1:03:33

kiddo. You're doing great. And Santa

1:03:35

was like, Thanks, dude. I'll tell my

1:03:38

guy you said that they're the group of friends

1:03:40

that think they're hysterically funny. You know, they're like,

1:03:42

Oh, my God, our banter is off the chain

1:03:44

when it's not, you know, it's like a group

1:03:47

of people that think they're funny, but you know,

1:03:49

they're like, like, thanks. They'll tell my

1:03:51

guy you said that. And that's actually kind of not

1:03:53

funny, because Santa actually does have a face. Santa

1:03:56

does have a face guy that he

1:03:58

works with. Anyways, lala. the group is

1:04:00

like, is that Joe? And Ariana's like, I'm

1:04:03

that girl, I'm looking around trying to see

1:04:05

where what and all I was like, what

1:04:07

anyways, Billy Lee to Santa balls, like the

1:04:09

girls behind you, every time they look over,

1:04:12

they're just like mean mugging. Billy

1:04:14

Lee, where do you think you are? You're

1:04:16

in the jungle, baby. Like, you know

1:04:18

exactly what like, I love

1:04:21

come on. Yes, of course, they're mean mugging.

1:04:23

Yes. What did you expect? And Katie's like,

1:04:25

she's a rat. She's a rat girl.

1:04:30

Joe in a cartoon voice is like, I

1:04:32

don't know what to do.

1:04:35

She's just like tugging on the hat. And

1:04:38

she knows like, should we be closer to

1:04:40

James DJing? So we don't feel like he's

1:04:42

DJing to no one, because everyone's by the

1:04:44

bar and no one's by the DJ and

1:04:47

Billy Lee and hurt their little groups like,

1:04:49

Joe, why are you plugging your ears? Because

1:04:51

Joe's like, no, no, no, no, no, I

1:04:53

can't hear I can't because

1:04:56

I don't like it. I just

1:04:58

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe in

1:05:00

a talking to goes, the past year, these

1:05:02

things that the girls have said about

1:05:04

me. And while she's saying this, Katie,

1:05:06

Ali, lala Ariana, she and her posing for a

1:05:08

photo. And Joe continues in a

1:05:10

talking head, they don't go away. These

1:05:12

girls was insinuate that I was a

1:05:14

crackhead and like that is and by

1:05:16

the way, we see the Katie's famous post

1:05:18

where Katie's like, Joe is spooky. I mean,

1:05:20

none of us could stand to be around

1:05:23

her. Her energy is on par with the

1:05:25

crackhead. She's a psycho. I will also light

1:05:27

her on fire with Raquel. Julie

1:05:30

Lancer, like on yesterday's show, if you heard

1:05:32

that she said she found and put up

1:05:34

Joe is the first person that has ever

1:05:36

referred to herself as a crackhead. And she's

1:05:38

thinking that Katie had picked up on that

1:05:40

previously. So I mean, you know, listen,

1:05:43

it still sucks to be called a crackhead. But

1:05:45

at the same time, I don't think Joe is a crackhead.

1:05:48

I think she's a meth addict. I

1:05:50

don't think like I just think there's

1:05:52

like certain high energy people. She does

1:05:54

have ADHD. And she's just a she's

1:05:57

a character, you know, she is a character. Joe

1:06:01

continues into talking about it's hurtful and

1:06:03

harmful to anybody who has a DD

1:06:06

and Billy Lee to Joe who's still plugging

1:06:08

her ears like what is happening? Did you

1:06:10

hear something? And Schwartz comes up behind Joe

1:06:12

and Joe's like, why? And

1:06:14

she was like, I saw you plugging your ears. Why

1:06:17

is everyone there was a moment I don't

1:06:19

want to. And

1:06:22

Joe and I talking heads like there is one thing to hear

1:06:24

it on social media, but there's another feeling when you

1:06:26

can see five girls and you just kind of feel

1:06:28

like they're talking shit about you. That

1:06:30

does suck. Yes, it does suck. You

1:06:33

know, I do hope Joe in those moments realized that

1:06:35

is what you were going to be walking into based

1:06:37

on what they think of what you've done. And

1:06:40

on top of that, you are like a whirling

1:06:42

dervish just spinning around. So there are a lot

1:06:44

of things but yeah, it does suck. I don't

1:06:46

think anybody would argue otherwise. So

1:06:48

yeah, totally feel empathy with her

1:06:50

in that moment. But

1:06:53

you know, there are reasons and she was like talking

1:06:55

about like, oh, I said the braids and the hair

1:06:57

or whatever. Camera still shows

1:06:59

Joe's got her finger in her ears and

1:07:01

Billy Lee's like, what are you doing? And

1:07:03

Joe's closing her eyes, shaking her head, trying

1:07:06

to shut it all out. And

1:07:08

Ali's like to the other girls are like, I saw

1:07:10

Joe last night and she didn't like, she

1:07:12

didn't like my straight up questions of like, okay, like,

1:07:14

are you fucking short? So I said, do you find

1:07:17

him physically attractive? And she said, yeah. And

1:07:19

then it's like, well, do you have emotional feelings for him?

1:07:21

And she said, yeah. And then she said, like my dad,

1:07:24

which is a weird follow up. I mean, it is

1:07:26

weird when you've had sex with somebody multiple times and

1:07:28

they're like, it reminds me of my dad. And

1:07:31

then Ariana was like, she fucks her dad. And

1:07:34

Lala's like, no, no, I can't go there.

1:07:36

And I was like, honestly, she's like trying

1:07:38

to come in peace. The camera shows Joe

1:07:40

just adjusting her Tom Tom hat again. She

1:07:43

has this energy about her where she's like, and

1:07:45

Katie's like, she's psycho, Ali, come on. And I

1:07:47

was like, girl, that was me a year ago.

1:07:50

So Ariana and I talking to Ariana, I was like,

1:07:52

that was me being Ali and like trying to stand up

1:07:55

for Joe a year ago because Ariana used to stand

1:07:57

up for Joe a year ago. And this

1:07:59

is where Ariana. talking head. It's like needle

1:08:01

scratch. Like, how did we get here? She's

1:08:03

like, before anybody starts boo hooing over how

1:08:06

Joe is treated by any one of us,

1:08:08

know that Joe is a full blown mean

1:08:10

girl bully who did not give a flying

1:08:12

fuck about spending Thanksgiving with me in my

1:08:15

home while knowing that our mutual friend was

1:08:17

fucking my boyfriend in my house. And it

1:08:19

is not bullying for me to point that

1:08:21

out. So that's like

1:08:24

a real sobering statement. I don't think anybody

1:08:26

can argue that because we even see a

1:08:28

photo of them all at that Thanksgiving dinner

1:08:30

and Joe's in the background going like, this

1:08:32

is a little rinks like even being like

1:08:35

Joseph in the photo. But yeah, man, Joe,

1:08:37

those are hard things to come back from.

1:08:39

And that's like, even with Sandal, Joe, like even pull

1:08:42

it Ariana aside of like, I didn't know what to

1:08:44

fucking do. Oh God. Because

1:08:47

I think when you're in those situations, you almost like

1:08:49

trauma bond with the people that are fucking over the

1:08:51

other people. And then you kind of like start like

1:08:53

feeling cool about it and hanging out. And it

1:08:55

feels like a secret mission. When you're just being

1:08:57

a douchebag, you're like, Oh, it's mission impossible. No,

1:08:59

you're just being a douchebag. Ariana anyways, Ali's like, I

1:09:01

met her once twice. I totally believe you guys.

1:09:03

I just want to know that she can come to

1:09:05

events or we're not going to come, you know,

1:09:08

and Katie's like, well, I don't want her to feel

1:09:10

like she's come anywhere. So Joe,

1:09:12

Billy Lee and T are moving from corner to

1:09:14

corner. And they're like about to walk past them.

1:09:17

And she is like, uh, oh, she's

1:09:19

getting closer. And Joe's walking by. It's

1:09:21

like, I'm uncomfortable. And Katie's like, I

1:09:23

don't want her to feel comfortable. Period. So

1:09:25

if she feels uncomfortable, then I'm thrilled. Listen,

1:09:28

that might sound harsh, but

1:09:31

I, you know, it's so funny. Like

1:09:33

Tom can be as angry as he

1:09:35

want at everybody, including Ariana, but Katie

1:09:37

who has reasons or Ariana has reasons.

1:09:39

They're sometimes labeled these bad people. Like

1:09:42

there's nothing in society that says you have to be

1:09:44

nice to people that have fucked you over, like, especially

1:09:46

when you've not gotten any kind of sincere apology. So

1:09:48

trying to reframe the narrative in this of like, Oh,

1:09:51

it sucks to be bullied. Yes, it does suck to

1:09:53

be bullied, but it also sucks to do the things

1:09:55

that Joe did. There's like a lot of

1:09:57

things to look at, you know, so. And

1:10:00

she's like, Joseph, what are

1:10:02

you doing? And she's

1:10:04

like, what's wrong? Are you crying? Joseph, what's wrong?

1:10:06

Maybe it's because you call her Joseph so much.

1:10:08

And Brock's standing there too, cause she's in the

1:10:11

bathroom now. And you can see producer Jeremiah there

1:10:13

and Joe's off camera. She's like, I don't like

1:10:15

being attacked. I want to go home. And

1:10:18

she's like, where's Joe? What happened? And Brock's

1:10:20

like, hey, relax on the awareness, Joe. Relax there, she

1:10:22

and her. And Joe is with

1:10:24

Billy Lee and T and she's like, God,

1:10:26

I hate this. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But

1:10:29

she doesn't seem like she's freaking out in that

1:10:31

moment. So it seems like she was able to

1:10:33

pull, get those emotions under the, underway. But

1:10:36

I also wonder if there's a also a

1:10:38

thought in there of

1:10:41

Joe liking that Schwartz is like, Joe,

1:10:43

what's wrong? Joseph, Joseph,

1:10:45

like if she kind of likes that attention

1:10:47

too, I mean, cause it is

1:10:49

a traumatic environment, but she knew what she was walking

1:10:51

into. She's seen every season of Andrew pump rules. That's

1:10:54

the other thing too. Like, you know what you're signing

1:10:56

up for in certain ways. And of course that still

1:10:58

doesn't take away from the actual reality of it. But

1:11:01

I just think there's a lot of different things

1:11:03

to look at anyways. DJ James Kennedy, he's rocking.

1:11:05

He's like, don't put your drink there, Allie. You're

1:11:08

not allowed to do that. Naughty, naughty. Cause Allie

1:11:10

put a drink down on like a record. Anyway,

1:11:12

Santa was like, can I get a Heineken Zero?

1:11:14

Is this season sponsored by Heineken Zero? Sheena

1:11:17

is standing right next to him. She's like, I'm

1:11:19

drinking tonight for like the first time. So cheers.

1:11:21

We'll see how this goes. Santa ball is talking

1:11:23

to Kyle Chan, doesn't even hear her or is

1:11:26

purposely ignoring her. And Lala's like,

1:11:28

are you going to tell Sheena? And Katie's like,

1:11:30

um, should we? And Lala Ariana goes, I

1:11:32

had like juice or whatever with Schwartz. That's a

1:11:35

new thing of like, I, when Lala first was

1:11:37

in, I thought she meant beef, but then I

1:11:39

realized they actually did have juice at the creation

1:11:41

place. Like, dude, I have total juice

1:11:43

with Santa ball right now. And it's like, oh, you had

1:11:46

actual juice. And Lala's like, he's

1:11:48

like, I know, you know, we've all fucked up, but

1:11:50

like, I made out with Sheena and Ariana's face is

1:11:52

like, what? And Lala continues. And I was like, can

1:11:54

we go back to that? It was like in Vegas

1:11:56

and Ariana goes, well, I made out with Sheena in

1:11:58

Vegas, but is this the. same time and all I

1:12:01

was I don't know by the way Ariana man made

1:12:03

out I mean I was Lala made out with

1:12:05

Sheena laying it down way to go Ariana Lala

1:12:07

goes I don't know I just don't

1:12:09

know how to bring it up to her I don't want to be

1:12:11

like yo bitch what the fuck well I mean you don't have to

1:12:13

say yo bitch what the fuck you can just say hey can I

1:12:15

ask you something but Lala goes it's also

1:12:17

a little bit about yo bitch what the fuck and

1:12:19

Lala goes they said they were kind of joking

1:12:22

about it during the holidays this year he and Sheena and I

1:12:24

was like I don't I don't like that at all the

1:12:26

camera flashes the Sheena drinking and laughing laughing with

1:12:29

Madison and Ali and Ariana there's like is this

1:12:31

like an inside joke between you guys and

1:12:33

Lala like that feels gross and Kenny's like

1:12:36

that part like bothers me so have you

1:12:38

guys like joked about this before Santa Ball

1:12:40

finally gets like so the girls are all

1:12:43

sitting there and Santa Ball finally gay

1:12:45

you know he's like you know Heineken zero

1:12:47

bravery comes up he's like hey guys I'm

1:12:49

sorry to interrupt um anyway hey do

1:12:51

you like those potato chips I put under your

1:12:53

door the other day anyhoo enough small talk real

1:12:56

quick Ariana I don't want to bother you but

1:12:58

I just want to make sure that you

1:13:00

got the email that I sent earlier

1:13:02

like a couple like about a month ago um

1:13:05

and Ariana just looks at him

1:13:07

you know just like and then like kind of turns

1:13:09

the stone and she goes my lawyer has it looks

1:13:12

away I said I was like well just you know

1:13:14

I want to get things going get things moving you

1:13:16

know if you can just have him respond so we

1:13:18

can you know start working on stuff you know and

1:13:20

Ariana just doesn't reply you know I

1:13:22

said I was like yeah okay yeah and laws like

1:13:25

what is it what's this about lala trying to keep

1:13:27

the conversation going it sounds like oh

1:13:29

great question lala if with the house you know with

1:13:31

the house yeah yeah and Ariana just remains a statue

1:13:33

and said like well just let me know whatever you

1:13:35

know you know it's been a little while you know

1:13:37

I just want to make sure all right well um

1:13:39

have a good night I leave

1:13:41

you guys alone rock and

1:13:44

roll at lala

1:13:46

on a tiger neck goes it is taking

1:13:48

Ariana a long time to rid herself of

1:13:50

this house it's fucking weird the brand deals

1:13:52

are endless trust me bitch you're doing just

1:13:54

fine you can afford an apartment this

1:13:57

is where this shit doesn't fly with me in lala and

1:13:59

I guess to some people that think, oh, yeah,

1:14:01

that's dope. Yeah, it is weird. It's fucking

1:14:03

weird that Sandoval is there. Why is the

1:14:05

onus on Ariana? Yeah, it is fucking weird.

1:14:07

Guess what? She said what she was gonna

1:14:09

do from the start. She got her house.

1:14:11

She's moving out. And also, Ariana did stay

1:14:13

in other places during this period of time.

1:14:15

So that's something that it's like, she wasn't

1:14:17

just glued to that house. There were other

1:14:19

things, especially when Dancing with the Stars was

1:14:21

happening. So there was a lot of time

1:14:23

both of them were not staying at that

1:14:25

house together. But this shit, Lala, it just

1:14:27

doesn't help. And it's like, what are you

1:14:29

getting that? What piece of information do you have

1:14:31

come out with it? Because each week, I just

1:14:33

feel worse and worse about you. And that sucks.

1:14:36

You can't be there. Like, I always think about

1:14:38

Lala wants to be the reliable narrator, but she's

1:14:40

fucked up so much shit in her past. And

1:14:42

then she's like, what I've learned about growing and

1:14:44

healing. Have you learned about growing and healing just

1:14:46

shitting on people that haven't really caused the situation?

1:14:48

Is that something? Is that some part of the

1:14:51

four agreements that I didn't get to yet? I

1:14:53

just I think that is the shittiest statement.

1:14:56

And it just comes off of like, Lala's

1:14:58

popping off into talking head. Lala gives

1:15:00

good talking head. It's just shitty.

1:15:02

It's just shitty. Like, how did this season

1:15:04

turn into the girls turning on each other

1:15:06

when we've got something right here served up on

1:15:08

a golden platter, Tom Sandoval, and you can

1:15:10

even throw Tom Schwartz in there get a

1:15:12

little heat on him. But no, we're

1:15:14

having the girls were pitting the girls against

1:15:16

each other. It's weird. Anyways,

1:15:19

you did James Kennedy's like, wow, the

1:15:21

Ziggy outfits are on point tonight.

1:15:23

All right. Sandoval is trying his

1:15:25

best to sound interesting wearing his

1:15:27

he's wearing his lightning bolt necklace,

1:15:29

his lightning bolt earring. He's like,

1:15:31

hey, T, my first job in

1:15:33

LA with next to Skybar next door

1:15:36

at Skybar. She's like, really? Yeah, dude.

1:15:38

I was a pool boy, a pool

1:15:40

attendant, dude. And she's like, pool boy.

1:15:42

So you're thirsty all day. Sandoval

1:15:45

on a tugged head is like, T seems super

1:15:47

chill, dude. Super laid back. You

1:15:50

know, she's gonna let me raw dog her dude.

1:15:53

And she was like, Hey, so um, T, are

1:15:56

you good at bowling? If you want to go?

1:15:58

She's like, yeah, I'm down. Billy

1:16:00

Lee's like, I did it. I officially pawned my

1:16:03

friend off. Santa Ball continues

1:16:05

on talking about, I always think new dates

1:16:07

with people I just met are a little

1:16:09

awkward, but maybe it's because I haven't experienced

1:16:11

it in a very long time. Which

1:16:14

like the subject there is like, I just fuck.

1:16:16

I don't date. Like this

1:16:18

whole like, I've got to get back there. Like,

1:16:20

are you kidding me? Stop with

1:16:22

this. Stop with the nonsense. We get

1:16:24

a flashback to Christian, you know, as

1:16:26

Santa Ball handed Christian flowers like, look,

1:16:28

I got these for you. They match

1:16:30

you. Flashback to Ariana, Santa Ball going,

1:16:32

I love you. A flashback to Raquel

1:16:34

going, Santa Ball's like, they love you.

1:16:36

And Rachel's like, I love you too.

1:16:38

And Santa was like, I said,

1:16:40

they love you. And she's like, oh, but

1:16:43

it's just like the same pattern of

1:16:45

behavior. And

1:16:47

by the way, Santa Ball being a pool boy,

1:16:49

do you know one of my first jobs in

1:16:51

Los Angeles was at this day spa, really nice

1:16:53

day spa. I was a spa boy, a spa

1:16:55

attendant. And it was primarily, it

1:16:58

was in West Hollywood. It

1:17:00

was a really nice place, but you know, you would pass

1:17:02

out water and towels, but my unofficial job in there, I've

1:17:04

talked about this many times over the years, was to make

1:17:06

sure guys didn't hook up with other guys in the spa,

1:17:08

because it was like, we had a membership program and it

1:17:11

was just like, she would get nuts back there. Like it

1:17:13

was the weirdest, and I came from Arizona and it was

1:17:15

like me and my buddies from ASU, we all worked there.

1:17:18

And we saw shit, like we were just so

1:17:20

innocent back then. We had no, we were like,

1:17:22

wait, what's going down? Like you would have to,

1:17:24

oh God, I have so

1:17:26

many stories. I have the weirdest stories from

1:17:28

that day spa. I almost did

1:17:30

like a one man show in my twenties called

1:17:33

Spa Boy, because there were just so many weird

1:17:35

stories, like we would walk out of there, like

1:17:37

the women's spa attendants got tipped nothing, and

1:17:40

the guy's spa attendants, we would go walk

1:17:42

out with like hundreds and cask, because all

1:17:44

the dudes would like tip us. It was

1:17:46

the weirdest job. I remember just

1:17:48

going like, is this, should I have even

1:17:50

moved to Los Angeles? This is wild, it

1:17:52

was so weird. So

1:17:54

anyways, Santa Barbara talking

1:17:56

heads like, it's time to rip that band aid

1:17:58

off and go on some dates. Women

1:18:00

of Los Angeles, you've been warned.

1:18:02

They're the Sandoval on the loose.

1:18:05

Darth Sandoval. Come to the

1:18:07

dark side, women of Los

1:18:09

Angeles. I'm gonna be

1:18:11

inside you. What's up,

1:18:14

dude? Do you like karaoke? Tom Sandoval

1:18:16

on the most extras. DJ

1:18:18

Tom Sandoval, yeah! So

1:18:23

Katie, meanwhile, leads Sheena

1:18:25

over to an area. And

1:18:28

she's like, okay, hey, I don't know how to bring

1:18:30

this up because it was brought up to me in such an abrupt

1:18:33

way. And she was like, what? Is this

1:18:35

about John Mayer? And Katie's like, apparently, Lala

1:18:37

had juice with Schwartz and she was talking to

1:18:39

him about Sandoval and how he's so over

1:18:41

the top and everything. And he said, oh, we've

1:18:43

all fucked up and I've done this and I've

1:18:45

done this and I've made out with Sheena.

1:18:47

And Sheena's like, Schwartz said that? And

1:18:50

Katie's like, yeah, he said you were in Vegas. And

1:18:52

there's like a pause. And Sheena's like, what

1:18:54

happened was me and Ariana were there with my mom

1:18:56

and my sister for her cheer competition in like high

1:18:58

school. I don't know what that, like Katie,

1:19:01

it was a cheer competition. I mean, nothing bad happens

1:19:03

at the cheer competition. She's like, and Schwartz pulls me

1:19:05

in this corner and kisses me and Katie's like, when

1:19:07

was this? And she's like, well, I think Shay

1:19:10

and I were maybe just engaged and they flashed

1:19:12

back. We get a Shay sighting from 2013. With

1:19:15

Shay's like, you're like, will you marry me

1:19:17

Sheena? Of course I will, oh my God!

1:19:20

We got a Shay sighting, you guys. And Katie's like,

1:19:22

why would he say we made out if you guys

1:19:25

didn't like make out? She was like, we did not.

1:19:27

That was not, no, no, no, no, no. Sheena,

1:19:29

this is the point like Schwartz is there. Why wouldn't you

1:19:31

just like, hey Schwartz, talk over here, let's all be in

1:19:33

the same room and talk about this. Katie's

1:19:36

like, well, saying somebody was trying to kiss somebody versus making

1:19:38

out. And she's like, nope, nope, that was not a make

1:19:40

out. No, no, no, no, can I tell you who I

1:19:42

was making out with on that trip? Ariana. Like,

1:19:45

I will throw Ariana under the bus. Okay

1:19:47

guys, sorry to do this to you, but it's

1:19:49

such a long episode. I had to split it

1:19:51

into two. So at this point, just consider it

1:19:53

like one of those cassette tapes or like a

1:19:56

vinyl. You're gonna flip over to part two of

1:19:58

the SuperSachs Van der Pomp rules. recap.

1:20:01

There is a lot to come. We're

1:20:03

about to get into some messy stuff

1:20:06

and we've got a reappearance of

1:20:08

Kin. I'm completely made of part

1:20:10

two of the SuperSizing the Pumble's

1:20:12

recap. I can't believe that. Okay

1:20:14

guys thanks for turning on over to part

1:20:16

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