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Hello. Welcome back to Let's
2:02
Watch. Broadway. Great.
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Wait. You're on day three?
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Yeah. We're on day three.
2:07
We just woke up for on day three. We actually woke
2:09
up and had bagels.
2:10
Right. We had breakfast this morning. Yep. Mhmm.
2:12
Fantastic.
2:13
Joey's had about enough of his mother. He's been with me
2:15
for three days.
2:16
That's not entirely true.
2:18
Entirely hear that. The bagels, so
2:20
gas percent of the bagels in New York are
2:22
better because of the water. And I
2:24
said, oh, yeah. Like, the coli just makes
2:26
it I
2:28
think it's better way they're made.
2:29
For they were handrolling them. Where we
2:32
got them today? Yeah.
2:32
Where did we go? What was the name of the place?
2:34
Esa Bagel.
2:35
Oh my god. It was that amazing.
2:37
It was good?
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Yeah. Bacon, eggs, and cheese on a bagel.
2:41
Yeah. Today was a two show day. We
2:43
saw -- Yeah. -- the first one we
2:45
saw was the music man. The second
2:48
show so we the mayor mayor of the music, man. The second
2:50
show that we saw will tell you about
2:53
next week. Right. Two show days
2:55
is a lot. Think that's why we're a little tired.
2:57
Is it too much? Yeah.
3:00
It it but we're here to work, really. Do
3:02
we suggest it to the people? If
3:03
they See, we have to podcast too. So
3:05
we're we're actually working and seeing
3:08
two shows, getting ready for two
3:09
podcasts. You just don't throw
3:11
up a podcast and, you know, that's it.
3:13
Yeah. But we podcast the next day.
3:15
Yeah. But your whole day is doing
3:17
that. So if you don't have to podcast, I would say
3:19
two shows and a day is fine.
3:21
Maybe. So it was kinda crazy. We like
3:23
basically, if you're seeing two shows in one
3:25
day, you wake up, you
3:27
got a little bit of time to do whatever you need to
3:30
do. You have to be at the show
3:32
by at least one thirty because the you're Matt
3:34
and I starting it too. Right. And music
3:36
band was two hours and forty five minutes
3:38
long. That's a long show. That's
3:40
a long
3:40
show. But it's Fuck. Do you wanna
3:42
talk about the airport first?
3:44
Didn't we I thought you said we told them last
3:46
week. But
3:47
that you didn't say that you recovered. You're
3:50
baggage. I didn't. don't think Yes.
3:52
I must I'm I must have told
3:54
them last week because we recorded the podcast.
3:56
Yes. Yesterday. Okay. Well, there you go.
3:58
Recover my bags you guys. Hopefully, you knew
4:00
that. Got everything back.
4:03
Went to Delta.
4:04
Yep. In forty five minutes.
4:06
New York City bomb squad turned my missing
4:09
suit case in that was just sitting outside
4:11
of the airport. Right.
4:12
And they looked at me like, yeah.
4:15
Now I'm pretty sure I'm gonna come up on some
4:17
terrorist list anytime I try
4:19
to, you know, find
4:21
a plane, but that's a story for another day, I guess.
4:23
I'm glad we got it back. I'd like to The amazing
4:25
part is in forty five minutes. You got from
4:28
where we're staying -- Mhmm. -- to LaGuardia,
4:30
picked up your bags and got back. Yeah.
4:33
That I couldn't believe you were
4:35
here.
4:35
In a cab everyone.
4:36
Yeah. Okay.
4:36
I didn't take, like, those public transit or anything
4:39
like that. No. In a cab. Yeah. So that's
4:41
why if I ever stay in Midtown again, I'll definitely
4:43
fly into LaGuardia. I
4:45
can't know why anyone else
4:47
would ever have me fly into a
4:50
different airport if I was staying on the
4:52
set of town crazy.
4:54
They redid it. It it been redone
4:56
since we were here to see you in Carolinas. Mhmm.
4:59
And they reconstruction it as very
5:00
organized. When you get out there to get a taxi,
5:02
it's bump, you're in a car and you're gone,
5:05
you know. Quick segue for the people. Caroline's
5:07
on Broadway, iconic comedy
5:09
club in Times
5:11
Square, where
5:14
I have all of my New York City shows
5:16
have always been at
5:16
Caroline, and it's closed now forever.
5:19
And it is weird walking
5:20
past that. Gosh. It's like a Like
5:23
a comic It's up on the wall. No.
5:25
No lights. It's just like my
5:28
god. It was gut wrenching to watch.
5:29
It's like seeing it's an iconic comedy
5:32
place.
5:32
Closed. Black. Yeah. It was
5:34
just crazy.
5:35
Dark. I I bet it comes back.
5:36
But yesterday, when we walked past Carolinas,
5:39
they were filming something.
5:40
Yeah.
5:40
And you just walked right through whatever they were
5:42
filming. Nobody, stop me. I
5:44
thought I thought what's all this salt on the ground? There's
5:47
no ice here and nothing, and Joe can you go,
5:49
oh, that's the fake snow. They're filming something
5:51
I got
5:51
on.
5:52
And then Actually, we did. Both just kinda
5:54
walk right through it.
5:55
Yeah. I think it
5:55
was the thing. How
5:56
crazy was that? They didn't stop us.
5:58
Maybe they wanted that kind
5:59
of I think they want most of They
6:01
better Well,
6:02
it's not my
6:03
night. We didn't get paid. No.
6:05
That's some bullshit. But what I was saying
6:07
to you is I think Carolines will reopen,
6:10
not -- I do. -- within the next five years
6:12
or
6:12
anything, but --
6:13
Mhmm. -- I think it's gonna reopen. It's too iconic,
6:15
not too. Just like iconic hotels
6:17
and iconic restaurants,
6:19
I think it's gonna come back because that's
6:21
Studio fifty four never reopened. Well,
6:23
that was different. There's drugs and everything else in
6:25
that place.
6:25
Oh, yeah. There was there was never drugs
6:27
I can't That was
6:28
That was what
6:31
I mean? That was that
6:33
was something else. Anyway. Anyway. So
6:35
we went to see the music man starring
6:38
Hugh Jackman and Sutton
6:41
Foster. Well,
6:42
let
6:42
me tell you. To
6:43
Sutton Foster from Troy, Michigan. Hey girl.
6:45
A hometown girl. Yeah. This was
6:47
my dream show. I've always dreamed
6:49
to see it on Broadway. It's my favorite,
6:51
and I never thought I would get the chance
6:54
ever ever. And then
6:56
you'd, you know, you hear Hugh Jackman's gonna be
6:58
in it. It's like, oh my god. I would love to see it.
7:00
But in my mind thinking, you'll never you're not
7:02
gonna be able to do that, you know? Blah blah.
7:05
And here I was sitting in that theater. And I'm
7:07
telling you when
7:10
Miriam saying till there
7:12
was you, I just broke down. It
7:14
just was an emotional
7:16
experience. It just went
7:17
it overcame me. It just overcame
7:19
me, Anna. No. In fact, she was singing good nights
7:21
by someone. And it was
7:24
one of her first show first songs that she
7:26
really came out to sing her voice is incredible. And
7:28
it just it it surprised
7:29
me. It just overtook me. It was
7:32
just so wonderful. There were some
7:35
things about the show that I thought were real. First of all,
7:38
the music band is now ruined for us forever.
7:40
We'll never we'll never see a better version
7:42
of it ever. Ever. Ever.
7:45
We'll never see a
7:45
better.
7:46
To me, it was like seeing people who saw zero
7:48
mastel and fiddle around the roof.
7:50
It would be like that. It'd be like that. And then
7:52
fiddle and then he's never reprise that
7:54
role. And, you
7:56
know, Yeah.
7:57
It was like it was it was literally absolutely
8:00
bonkers insane.
8:02
Hugh Jackman was phenomenal. He was
8:04
great. He was super great. Okay.
8:06
Huge Jackman. Huge. Oh my god. One
8:08
of the things that
8:10
I thought was really cool was
8:13
Hugh Jackman being in the show. He
8:15
was so He
8:17
was really good. Harold Hill was like It's
8:20
like a a pretty
8:22
simple vocal. Rall.
8:25
I wouldn't say it was it's like a it's not a
8:27
complicated -- Yeah. -- vocal -- Vocals.
8:29
-- that locariums. You gotta have good
8:31
time. Yeah? Don't
8:33
necessarily have to be a fantastic singer.
8:36
And he was great. I have never seen
8:38
like a friggin mega superstar
8:40
in a show before, so that was really cool
8:42
to see. Oh, also, by the way, guys, we're
8:45
talking to you about the
8:47
show, the music, man, it closed
8:49
this this week, January fifteenth. Yeah. By the time
8:51
this podcast comes out, you won't be able to see the
8:53
music man on Broadway so sorry. But we'll you
8:55
can do it right seriously through us.
8:58
Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that I
9:00
thought was really interesting about the show is seeing
9:02
somebody at that level perform.
9:05
And let me tell you what when Hugh Jackman
9:07
uncovered his face for
9:09
the first time because there's this whole scene
9:11
in the train and it was just so big of
9:13
getting in.
9:13
But Ian covered his face the applause break
9:16
for him just standing there
9:19
was, like, three minutes off. Because on the train
9:22
scene, the interesting part is how they block
9:24
that scene, and I've seen it done
9:26
before. They blocked the
9:28
scene, so your eyes are, let's say, stage
9:31
right. Everything is happening stage
9:33
right, so your eyes follow it. And
9:36
all of a sudden, he staged
9:38
left and stands up. Out
9:40
of his seat on the train and you're like, oh,
9:42
my gosh. It it's a the blocking
9:45
is incredible because you don't see him
9:47
get on that train. You're really not you don't
9:49
see it and all of a sudden, boom, there he is. He
9:51
stands up and my crowd goes
9:54
nuts. I think there was one thing I
9:56
read and saw when it opened that he got,
9:58
like, a ten minute applause, Pete,
10:01
and they had to just shut
10:03
it down because people were just going
10:04
crazy. I
10:05
wonder how they shut it down. I don't know,
10:07
but they couldn't get people to stop
10:09
because they were So and and the way they bring
10:11
him on is so exciting.
10:13
One of the craziest things is
10:16
one of the craziest things too is that
10:18
Hugh
10:19
When when you're on Broadway, you actually
10:21
get paid by a week, did you know that
10:23
you paid by the week?
10:25
No, I didn't. Yeah. Not, like, an
10:27
hour leaping and it's not, like, a salary
10:29
thing, you get paid by the week and, like,
10:31
how many like, eight shows a week and
10:33
that's, like, your weekly. Right. Right.
10:35
Or, like, I get and maybe it's
10:38
per show. I forget how it was explained
10:40
to me. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Per
10:42
show and then you would get what you do for the week.
10:44
It is said that
10:46
Hugh Jackman is making
10:48
two hundred thousand dollars a
10:51
week on the show alone,
10:53
So two hundred thousand dollars a week, if
10:55
he just two hundred thousand dollars a week, that
10:58
means he's making eight hundred thousand
11:00
dollars a month, which would mean
11:03
In the six month run of the show, he's making four
11:05
point eight million dollars. That sounds
11:07
low to me.
11:08
That sounds low to me too. Yeah.
11:10
I think that sounds kinda low. Let's hold on.
11:12
Let's look it up. According to Bright
11:14
what is this bright star musical dot com, they're
11:16
saying a hundred thousand dollars a
11:18
week? I thought yesterday with our crowd that
11:20
we were with, they were saying he got six hundred thousand
11:22
a week and that makes sense to me. But
11:26
anyway, yeah, if
11:28
you get a yeah. If you get somebody to that
11:30
level, There you go. The one
11:32
of the things I wanted to say was
11:35
I was the person who played the mayor
11:38
in the show. I kept looking at him thinking,
11:40
poo he looks familiar and then ding and hit
11:42
me. He was Mark Lynn
11:44
Baker and he is very
11:46
talented. He's been a lot of broadway
11:49
productions on his own talent studio,
11:52
whatever. He was actually for people
11:54
who are my age. He was in Mark and Mindy
11:56
with Robin Williams back in the sixties.
11:59
He played played in that show, so anybody
12:01
remembers that show will remember
12:03
him, Marklyn Baker, he was really,
12:06
really excellent great voice and everything.
12:08
The other thing,
12:09
Joe, you and I mentioned, was because
12:12
it's, like, closing week.
12:14
Yeah. So this was so And where
12:17
Jackman, he was so
12:20
playful on that stage. What if he
12:22
he came off as such a funny man. He was
12:24
playing Pranks sort of on Miriam,
12:27
and she would couldn't hide
12:29
her laugh and she would start laughing. She'd raise her
12:32
arm to sing and he'd tickle her under her arm.
12:34
You know there was things happening
12:36
Sutterly, not unprofessional, that
12:39
were just hilarious, and the crowd
12:41
was going on. It was so and also here's
12:43
the thing you when you're, like, that big
12:45
of a star. Like I said,
12:48
last week's episode is I love that
12:50
about live performances. You don't know gonna
12:52
happen. And they were just doing it was very clear
12:54
that they're doing
12:55
just, like, little subtle things to, like, kinda
12:57
make each other laugh
12:58
little bit, but
12:59
it's closing week. They're never gonna play these
13:01
calls again.
13:02
Right. Some
13:02
people really hate that.
13:04
think it was their last matinee, actually. Some
13:06
directors and some producers no. It's not their last
13:08
matinee on Sunday. Okay. Some directors and some
13:10
producers hate that.
13:13
But, like, I don't know. I think it it that's
13:15
the element of theater that is
13:17
different from watching a movie
13:19
or watching a video. The
13:22
difference is that, like, you're actually there
13:24
in the moment and it reminds the audience,
13:26
they're alive and
13:27
living, and they're doing this for you right
13:29
now. Right. True. And, you know, the
13:32
you've gotta be able to trust your actors
13:34
when that starts to happen. And
13:37
they're very professional. And even
13:39
though they were he got thrown off by her
13:41
too, she she came back at him, which was funny
13:43
and what he thinks she pushed him. And
13:46
he came back to add her, like, a real sexy
13:48
sort of move, and she just started
13:50
to laugh. And you just have to trust your
13:52
actors that they're still professional enough that they're not
13:54
gonna go over the line. If they do,
13:56
then you take care of it in the wings.
13:58
You know? Sort of thing. So it was
14:01
so nice to see that playfulness that
14:03
we got to witness for
14:04
sure. The cast was superb. The
14:07
kids in the show? Yeah.
14:09
Oh my god. Yeah. That's What's
14:11
stellar talent? I'm thinking these are just
14:14
kids. I mean, eight years old,
14:17
you know, with voices and
14:19
dancing. And what oh my
14:21
god. This kid lead a normal life.
14:23
It no way. No way.
14:25
I actually I did
14:27
a remember when I did that, I
14:29
did a speaking gig at the Mon
14:31
Tac Tac Resort
14:34
In upstate New York.
14:36
Oh, yeah. And it was for
14:38
the, like, New York State
14:41
Charter School independent schools
14:43
society blah blah blah something like
14:45
that. Right? Mhmm. And they were from all over
14:47
the state, from, like, booji
14:49
ass. Private schools from all over
14:51
New York City. Right. And I was sitting at a table
14:53
with a couple teachers who taught at private
14:56
schools in New York City. Mhmm.
14:59
And they taught at these performing arts
15:01
schools where the kids
15:03
are they were like half of our kids are
15:05
in shows right now. And I was like,
15:07
really, they're like, yeah. And some of them
15:09
will, like, go do the show and then, like, come back six
15:11
months later and then, what do we do? You know what I mean? Yeah.
15:14
But they're, like, these little kids
15:16
are you could see the
15:19
way they acted, the
15:22
how perfect their dancing was,
15:24
how how unpoint their
15:26
singing was. Yeah. You could tell that
15:28
these kids were terrain. Oh,
15:31
yeah. They did not just find good kids
15:33
who could do it. Like, these kids were
15:35
train Train. Train. No. Interesting.
15:37
We were with my friend Anne last night who was
15:41
a bit of a who's who in the opera world.
15:44
Yeah. But she was explaining to
15:46
us how -- Diane. -- the Diane.
15:48
The the difficulty
15:52
of a child actor than becoming
15:54
a a working actor
15:56
as an adult -- -- because being a
15:59
good singer and being a good performer
16:01
as a child is different than being a good singer
16:03
and a good performer as an adult. Mhmm. And you
16:06
sometimes don't, like, when your
16:08
body changes and your voice changes
16:10
and all that, you sometimes don't have
16:12
it anymore. And I was thinking that too, like,
16:14
oh, I wonder how many of these kids
16:16
will actually, like, do this
16:18
for the rest of their life. I would say probably most
16:20
of them are gonna be involved in theater for the rest
16:23
of their
16:23
life. What did she say? I don't know. I think
16:25
I think their inspiration and their parents
16:27
inspiration is to get them to be the Hugh
16:30
Jackman of the stage of them, you know,
16:32
Sunfaster stage. And it
16:34
seems like you know, how many
16:36
of those how many kids actors
16:39
kids stage Mhmm.
16:40
-- actors do you know that have risen? I
16:42
had him. One time I was
16:45
you know how in certain cultures like it's
16:47
like math, math, math, math, math,
16:49
math reading, reading, reading, you know. Right.
16:51
There was a student
16:54
in my class whose parents were like that
16:56
were very old school thinking
16:59
culturally. And they just
17:01
wanted her to be a doc Like,
17:03
they wanted this little girl to be a doctor and
17:06
she we were in fifth grade, so I was like calm
17:08
down. First of all, they wanted
17:10
her to be a doctor so bad, and they should
17:12
this little girl was
17:15
made to perform or to be involved
17:17
in the arts in somehow? Do you know sometimes you
17:19
just get a kid in your classes that like, undeniable.
17:22
Yeah. And she loved
17:24
to sing. She loved to dance and
17:26
act, and she was so involved in it, and she was
17:28
talk about it all the time. And her
17:30
mom came into a
17:33
conference and was saying,
17:35
she's first of all, though, I'll never forget the phrase she
17:37
was, she goes, I don't know what's wrong with her.
17:40
Oh, wow. She goes her brother chooses
17:43
to read medical books. He's in middle
17:45
school, chooses to read that in his free
17:47
time. He is doing all this extra
17:49
math for himself, and he wants to and
17:52
she doesn't do any of this. She she
17:54
All she does is sing. All she wants to do and I
17:56
said, is there no value in the arts? I said that to
17:58
her. I said, is there no value in the arts? And
18:00
I told them, I was very hard for me, but I told them,
18:03
I go, she's expressing not
18:06
only her interest, but what she's good at.
18:08
Mhmm. And it was just so sad to
18:10
me that this then this parent was not
18:12
having any of
18:13
them. No.
18:13
I bet not. It's a it's a scary thought to
18:15
be honest with you as a parent. No. I mean Sure.
18:19
Sure. Sure.
18:22
But it's a scary thought if you're looking
18:24
at it like your kid has your
18:26
kid has a minimal chance of getting
18:28
to like Hugh Jackman, sudden foster
18:30
status for sure. Right. But there
18:32
are so many other jobs
18:34
in this industry that that in
18:37
entertainment -- Right. -- in theater,
18:40
in dance, and whatever it is, that that
18:42
child could be so happy for the rest of their
18:44
lives. Right. You know, working
18:46
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18:49
stage managing, front of the house.
18:51
The there's financial managers who work in
18:54
the field. Like, there's
18:54
everything. You know? It's just that you be involved some
18:57
way, but it's Laura. So as
18:59
Laura was going to do So
19:01
we're calling I guess we're I guess we're name
19:03
dropping our family again back
19:05
to that. I would I think I remember she
19:07
was going to go into --
19:09
Dramaturg.
19:10
-- costume design. I
19:12
don't want it to be a dramaturg. The hot
19:14
no. In college, she was
19:16
gonna do history of
19:18
costuming to be able to
19:21
work on movies and set to
19:23
do the historical research on
19:25
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19:28
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19:30
She would have been so good at it. So
19:32
good at it. I don't know what happened,
19:34
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19:36
at it. I didn't even know there was such a degree
19:38
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19:39
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19:41
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19:44
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19:46
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19:49
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19:51
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19:53
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19:54
that, I don't think. You don't
19:56
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20:04
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20:06
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20:09
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20:11
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20:13
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20:14
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20:16
I know. Okay. This
20:18
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24:41
was that that year because he's in
24:42
everything. But can I give a little bit history
24:44
of music, man? Would you mind? Okay.
24:46
Do you wanna give history of the music, man? Or
24:48
do you want me to give you a synopsis of
24:51
the New York Times review of the music
24:53
man that you wanna do.
24:54
Which
24:54
one you wanna first?
24:56
The New York Times review.
24:57
Okay. The title of the review.
25:00
Is this review from last night's show?
25:03
No. What's the date on this? February
25:05
tenth? Oh, wow. It was the fur
25:07
when it opened.
25:08
It's usually when they do the review is when the show
25:10
is Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. February
25:13
tenth twenty twenty two. This has been on Broadway
25:15
for a year. I just finished Dementia,
25:18
I just finished saying, how
25:21
does your how does it listen to me? February
25:23
tenth twenty twenty two of
25:25
twenty two, they opened and they have just
25:27
been on just under a year.
25:29
That's probably as long as they could get
25:31
you Jackman. Does that that sentence
25:34
ring a bell in your
25:35
head.
25:35
Well, I guess so now. Okay.
25:36
There you go. So it's the re their opening night review.
25:39
That's what you're giving us. An opening night review,
25:43
Maybe things have changed in a year. Okay.
25:45
I would love to see a closing night review.
25:48
Yeah. Review from The New
25:50
York Times. Written
25:52
by Jesse
25:53
Green. Even with Hugh Jackman,
25:55
the music man goes flat. Oh,
25:58
shit.
25:59
Sutton Foster also returns to the neat
26:01
perky overly cautious
26:04
Broadway revival of a musical
26:06
that needs to be more of a
26:08
con. There comes a moment in
26:10
the latest Broadway production of the music
26:12
man when high spirits, terrific dancing,
26:14
and big stars align in an extended
26:17
marvel of showbiz salesmanship.
26:19
Unfortunately, the moment is
26:21
the curtain call.
26:23
Is there more? There's a lot more.
26:26
Until the until then, The
26:28
musical, which opened on Thursday night
26:30
at the Winter Garden Theatre, only intermittently
26:33
offers the joys we expect from
26:35
the classic revival starring Hugh Jackman
26:37
and Sutton Foster especially one
26:39
so obviously pattern on the success
26:42
of another classic revival Hello,
26:44
Dolly from a few seasons back.
26:46
The frenzy of love unleashed on the show
26:49
by that's talking about bet that
26:51
that middle learn hello, Dolly. I
26:53
don't know. They they rip it apart.
26:55
But Jackman mostly suppresses his
26:57
darkening charisma here. This
26:59
is not a star turn like dolly
27:02
levi or for that matter, Peter
27:04
Allen and the boyfriend Oz. Instead, he
27:06
seems to see him as a character role
27:08
a cool manipulator traveling horn
27:10
dog who's being unprincipled, but
27:12
also be unlovable. The result
27:14
is a smart but strangely inward performance
27:17
by turning away from the audience. He not
27:19
only undersells big numbers like
27:21
you got trouble in which his spellbind
27:24
citizens of River City into believing
27:26
that the recent arrive of the pool table
27:28
will cause Juvenile to link with c for the
27:30
boy band as the solution, but
27:32
also it undersells the storyline to
27:34
us. Wow.
27:38
But the casting of Sutton Foster introduces
27:40
a problem that even she cannot
27:42
solve. It's an outpouring musical styles
27:45
and center point numbers. Wilson's score is
27:47
brilliantly designed to push different
27:49
world views into proximity and
27:51
sometimes into harmony. So soaring
27:53
above more pedestrian sounds, the
27:56
town's people with their low down
27:58
dances, thickly harmonized barbershop
28:00
credits and Chris Civic Anthem's Marion
28:02
Soprano liter literalizes
28:05
the idealism at heart of the
28:07
character and conflicts Her lifting, good
28:09
night sweetheart, someone Harold Hill, rogersley,
28:12
the seventy six drum bones, could not be
28:14
more oppositional until It
28:16
turns out that they are in fact in the same melody
28:18
and in different actives at a different tempos.
28:22
Though Foster can sing, The
28:25
required notes, she's a really
28:27
she really is a belter with a
28:29
mezzo quality to her voice that regardless
28:32
of pitch In her high flung song,
28:34
she works too hard to force the
28:36
bloom when it's needed
28:39
to erase the exuberance. My
28:42
white night area is a usually rangy
28:45
highlight of the role. Wow. I
28:47
don't I so disagree.
28:50
Unfortunately, the flatness is
28:53
an academic of this production. Holy
28:55
shit is this guy's own
28:57
coach. I I just
28:59
really disagree, I guess.
29:01
Well, let me just say something. First
29:03
of all, I
29:06
would have loved to seen the opening night,
29:08
and I can't imagine that it
29:10
was anywhere near as horrific
29:12
horrific as he
29:13
says. Period. Were there
29:15
any shows? Any show has tweaks
29:17
here and there. So this asked
29:20
jerk. Obviously, there's
29:22
people who like certain
29:25
shows and don't like certain shows no matter
29:27
what. And it's very
29:29
possible that he's just not
29:31
a lover of music man period. Or
29:34
he really thought he saw all this.
29:37
It doesn't make him right. Right. It doesn't
29:39
make the experience of probably the
29:41
rest of that audience the
29:43
same.
29:43
Right. No. That's the thing with the reviews. This is
29:45
one person's opinion. Can you imagine that,
29:47
you know, the first thing that I always
29:50
saw or read is that when
29:52
a play goes up, the first thing they do is grab the
29:54
New York. What is the New York Times? Right. And
29:56
look at what's the review from last
29:58
night? I hope the hell.
30:00
Well, clearly clearly, I mean, it
30:02
lasted much longer than that review.
30:06
Oh, for sure.
30:06
I don't know. I just first of all, this was I
30:09
mean, it's no denying. It was a money grab.
30:11
They put two huge stars as the
30:13
leads. Like, this was
30:15
it I don't know. Was it thing, and it's the music,
30:17
man. It's classic. It's it's but
30:19
that's also why I loved
30:21
it. It was classic Broadway.
30:23
It it It was the GlipT. It was the glam, it was
30:25
everything. Let's talk can we talk about
30:27
the show itself for a second? Yeah, please. Weird
30:30
show if you think about it. Real
30:32
really weird show. This
30:35
con artist comes if you think
30:37
about it, this con artist comes into
30:39
the city Fucks around with
30:41
everybody, falls in love
30:43
with a heavy hitter in the city, she
30:46
backs him up, changes
30:48
the viewpoint of everyone in the city
30:50
to realize that what he did
30:52
if you look at it another way, it really
30:55
wasn't that bad. He
30:57
makes all of the money that he took
30:59
to scam these people and
31:01
one hundred percent gets away with it. At
31:04
the end of the play, I was kind of like,
31:06
Oh, this is just a swindling card Honors
31:08
to, like, totally get away with
31:10
that. It's just it's it if
31:12
you wanna take reality, into
31:15
every story. The magic of the it's
31:17
the magic of the
31:18
story. It's the possible
31:20
Magic of the story of a con artist gets away
31:22
with this comment.
31:23
Does everything have to be
31:23
real? No. But You
31:25
know, why can't it just be Do you like
31:27
that story line?
31:29
I love the story line,
31:31
really ascends
31:34
to
31:35
a a beautiful story. What is okay.
31:37
Tell me, you're beautiful. He changes
31:39
the
31:39
hearts and minds of of
31:42
of a and I'll give you some history later, but hearts
31:44
and minds of the of a town that was had has
31:46
nothing. The kids had nothing. But
31:49
then they became having dreams and
31:51
hopes and and excitement in
31:53
their
31:53
city,
31:54
even though they all founder just came through.
31:56
But I don't wanna get heavy into
31:58
it's a fun
32:00
filled possibility that
32:03
brought you to your feet.
32:04
Right. But this is also how cult start.
32:07
Oh, Joey, please. It's music
32:09
man. Ma'am, literally
32:13
I'm, hey, I loved it. I absolutely
32:15
loved it. Why do you gotta
32:15
think so deep then? Okay. Let's
32:18
take Lulu Lulu
32:20
Ro, the pants. It's not even Jesus.
32:23
They start telling each other. They start telling
32:25
each other. You can sell these pants and you can be
32:27
this big boss. These women are selling this
32:29
shit and they think they're these big Ross book bosses,
32:31
but really they're broke. And they finally found
32:33
their purpose and they're finally selling
32:35
things and they I am a strong independent
32:37
woman and all this blah blah blah. No bitch.
32:39
You felt for a trap. That is
32:41
nothing. And you found the spin
32:43
on it. I'm telling you.
32:44
And now you think --
32:45
Listen. -- that It's okay because you
32:48
you found some positive loophole and and
32:50
the woman's making the big
32:51
bucks.
32:52
Real life stuff. It's a story.
32:54
It's a fairy tale. It's Can
32:57
you see flaws in the fairy tale? It's
32:59
a freaking fairy tale. Are you gonna are
33:01
you one of those that are gonna say Cinderella wasn't
33:04
good for girls to
33:05
watch? Because blah blah
33:07
Did I say that?
33:08
It is. No. I listened to that. never
33:10
said it wasn't good to watch. I
33:12
never said it wasn't good to watch. Roll back the tapes.
33:15
I said it's a little bit of a
33:17
weird like, that's a weird storyline.
33:20
And also there was one other thing that
33:22
I didn't like in it. And I think in a revival,
33:24
you can change things, I think. That
33:27
one little bitch, Amarillas, she
33:29
makes that boy with the list talk.
33:32
And then, first of all, I wanted to
33:34
backhand her. She the
33:36
little girl, she's like seven or something.
33:39
She's like, oh, Linthrop. Please,
33:42
name my name. Oh my gosh. She won't even talk
33:44
to me, Lee. And then he says, thank you, Amarillo.
33:47
And she laughs in his face
33:49
and two adults are in the house with
33:51
her and no one says, you little
33:53
bitch, apologize. They,
33:55
instead, she turns and she's
33:57
like, oh, I'm so sad. He doesn't
34:00
talk to me. He doesn't like me. He's so
34:02
ashamed of himself, and they're like, we
34:04
know him. I'm realist. It's we're
34:06
we're trying. We're trying no.
34:09
You fucking tell that little bitch about
34:11
you. Give me your phone. And
34:13
you're
34:13
Give me your phone. Yeah. And and nineteen
34:16
whatever they have. Nineteen o
34:18
seven. Give me your phone. And
34:21
you don't have your iPad for the weak
34:23
amorelless. That's what
34:25
I thought. I was just kinda like it's
34:27
weird. I thought it was
34:28
weird. Next, what do you have to
34:30
say? I
34:32
don't know what you need some coffee or a power
34:34
drink connection. Anyway, let me
34:36
give you some history of the music, man. I thought this stuff
34:38
was really, first of all, it's fabulous show.
34:41
I don't look that deep into it. It's
34:43
a great story line and it's classic. You'll
34:45
enjoy it. History is music man.
34:47
It's a musical. It was a book and
34:49
a music and lyrics written by Meredith
34:52
Wilson, and it was based on a story
34:54
by Meredith Wilson and Franklin
34:56
Lacey. Meredith Wilson, the plot
34:58
is the plot was inspired
35:00
by his boyhood Mason City,
35:03
Iowa hometown. He
35:05
developed the theme in nineteen forty
35:07
eight, in a nineteen forty eight memoir, and
35:09
it was called and there, I stood
35:11
with my piccolo after years
35:14
of
35:14
development. Wait.
35:15
What was called in there? I stood with my piccolo. It was the
35:17
name of the show. He he developed
35:20
a memoir called, and there
35:22
I stood with my piccolo, come
35:24
to find out he was He played the
35:26
piccolo, the clarinet, everything, and Phil
35:28
Harmonic orchestras. He was in the John
35:31
Phillips' Souza, orchestra, you know,
35:33
band. Anyway, so he developed
35:35
that memoir. And then after
35:38
that, he developed forty plus drafts
35:40
of the music man It opened
35:43
in nineteen fifty seven at the Majestic
35:45
Theatre, and it ran until nineteen
35:47
sixty one. Robert Preston
35:50
is in the
35:50
Wait. Wait. Did it open?
35:51
Nineteen fifty seven. Wow.
35:54
Robert Preston is in the original cast
35:57
as Professor Harold Hill, and
35:59
he also was in the
36:00
movie. So
36:02
Who was that? Robert Preston?
36:04
Yeah. Robert Preston was a Broadway
36:07
actor and he did some film and
36:09
he was pretty big back when.
36:12
And but his most famous
36:14
role became Professor Harold Hill.
36:17
He died kinda young. I think he was in a sixties
36:19
spot. Yeah. He
36:21
was he was pretty popular
36:24
back then.
36:24
Yeah. Okay. So he was born In
36:28
nineteen eighteen, can
36:30
you do this quick math? Or in
36:32
nineteen eighteen died
36:36
in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah.
36:37
He was about sixty something years old.
36:40
Sixty nine. Yeah. That's
36:42
young.
36:43
Feel like the age people were dying in the
36:45
eighties. Right? Oh, really?
36:47
I
36:47
don't know. Right? Yeah. Has
36:49
the average life expectancy changed
36:51
since then?
36:52
I think so. I think it always changes anyway.
36:54
So that's the history of me. little bit a little bit
36:56
history. There's a lot you can read on it, so go
36:59
ahead because it's fun. And once you see the
37:01
show, It just drives you to wanna know
37:03
more. It did with me
37:04
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37:04
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37:06
does the music man, I'm just gonna say,
37:09
go see it in your great show. For your
37:11
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37:12
It's a great show even if it is about a con artist
37:14
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37:30
you. Go ahead, give it a call,
37:33
and let us know what TV
37:35
show you want us to watch when we get back to let's
37:37
watch TV shows and we're done in
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New
37:39
York. So keep us posted. And we'll see
37:41
you next time on. Let's
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march Broadway. Bye.
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