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Let's Watch TV: The Music Man

Released Wednesday, 25th January 2023
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2:00

Hello. Welcome back to Let's

2:02

Watch. Broadway. Great.

2:05

Wait. You're on day three?

2:06

Yeah. We're on day three.

2:07

We just woke up for on day three. We actually woke

2:09

up and had bagels.

2:10

Right. We had breakfast this morning. Yep. Mhmm.

2:12

Fantastic.

2:13

Joey's had about enough of his mother. He's been with me

2:15

for three days.

2:16

That's not entirely true.

2:18

Entirely hear that. The bagels, so

2:20

gas percent of the bagels in New York are

2:22

better because of the water. And I

2:24

said, oh, yeah. Like, the coli just makes

2:26

it I

2:28

think it's better way they're made.

2:29

For they were handrolling them. Where we

2:32

got them today? Yeah.

2:32

Where did we go? What was the name of the place?

2:34

Esa Bagel.

2:35

Oh my god. It was that amazing.

2:37

It was good?

2:38

Yeah. Bacon, eggs, and cheese on a bagel.

2:41

Yeah. Today was a two show day. We

2:43

saw -- Yeah. -- the first one we

2:45

saw was the music man. The second

2:48

show so we the mayor mayor of the music, man. The second

2:50

show that we saw will tell you about

2:53

next week. Right. Two show days

2:55

is a lot. Think that's why we're a little tired.

2:57

Is it too much? Yeah.

3:00

It it but we're here to work, really. Do

3:02

we suggest it to the people? If

3:03

they See, we have to podcast too. So

3:05

we're we're actually working and seeing

3:08

two shows, getting ready for two

3:09

podcasts. You just don't throw

3:11

up a podcast and, you know, that's it.

3:13

Yeah. But we podcast the next day.

3:15

Yeah. But your whole day is doing

3:17

that. So if you don't have to podcast, I would say

3:19

two shows and a day is fine.

3:21

Maybe. So it was kinda crazy. We like

3:23

basically, if you're seeing two shows in one

3:25

day, you wake up, you

3:27

got a little bit of time to do whatever you need to

3:30

do. You have to be at the show

3:32

by at least one thirty because the you're Matt

3:34

and I starting it too. Right. And music

3:36

band was two hours and forty five minutes

3:38

long. That's a long show. That's

3:40

a long

3:40

show. But it's Fuck. Do you wanna

3:42

talk about the airport first?

3:44

Didn't we I thought you said we told them last

3:46

week. But

3:47

that you didn't say that you recovered. You're

3:50

baggage. I didn't. don't think Yes.

3:52

I must I'm I must have told

3:54

them last week because we recorded the podcast.

3:56

Yes. Yesterday. Okay. Well, there you go.

3:58

Recover my bags you guys. Hopefully, you knew

4:00

that. Got everything back.

4:03

Went to Delta.

4:04

Yep. In forty five minutes.

4:06

New York City bomb squad turned my missing

4:09

suit case in that was just sitting outside

4:11

of the airport. Right.

4:12

And they looked at me like, yeah.

4:15

Now I'm pretty sure I'm gonna come up on some

4:17

terrorist list anytime I try

4:19

to, you know, find

4:21

a plane, but that's a story for another day, I guess.

4:23

I'm glad we got it back. I'd like to The amazing

4:25

part is in forty five minutes. You got from

4:28

where we're staying -- Mhmm. -- to LaGuardia,

4:30

picked up your bags and got back. Yeah.

4:33

That I couldn't believe you were

4:35

here.

4:35

In a cab everyone.

4:36

Yeah. Okay.

4:36

I didn't take, like, those public transit or anything

4:39

like that. No. In a cab. Yeah. So that's

4:41

why if I ever stay in Midtown again, I'll definitely

4:43

fly into LaGuardia. I

4:45

can't know why anyone else

4:47

would ever have me fly into a

4:50

different airport if I was staying on the

4:52

set of town crazy.

4:54

They redid it. It it been redone

4:56

since we were here to see you in Carolinas. Mhmm.

4:59

And they reconstruction it as very

5:00

organized. When you get out there to get a taxi,

5:02

it's bump, you're in a car and you're gone,

5:05

you know. Quick segue for the people. Caroline's

5:07

on Broadway, iconic comedy

5:09

club in Times

5:11

Square, where

5:14

I have all of my New York City shows

5:16

have always been at

5:16

Caroline, and it's closed now forever.

5:19

And it is weird walking

5:20

past that. Gosh. It's like a Like

5:23

a comic It's up on the wall. No.

5:25

No lights. It's just like my

5:28

god. It was gut wrenching to watch.

5:29

It's like seeing it's an iconic comedy

5:32

place.

5:32

Closed. Black. Yeah. It was

5:34

just crazy.

5:35

Dark. I I bet it comes back.

5:36

But yesterday, when we walked past Carolinas,

5:39

they were filming something.

5:40

Yeah.

5:40

And you just walked right through whatever they were

5:42

filming. Nobody, stop me. I

5:44

thought I thought what's all this salt on the ground? There's

5:47

no ice here and nothing, and Joe can you go,

5:49

oh, that's the fake snow. They're filming something

5:51

I got

5:51

on.

5:52

And then Actually, we did. Both just kinda

5:54

walk right through it.

5:55

Yeah. I think it

5:55

was the thing. How

5:56

crazy was that? They didn't stop us.

5:58

Maybe they wanted that kind

5:59

of I think they want most of They

6:01

better Well,

6:02

it's not my

6:03

night. We didn't get paid. No.

6:05

That's some bullshit. But what I was saying

6:07

to you is I think Carolines will reopen,

6:10

not -- I do. -- within the next five years

6:12

or

6:12

anything, but --

6:13

Mhmm. -- I think it's gonna reopen. It's too iconic,

6:15

not too. Just like iconic hotels

6:17

and iconic restaurants,

6:19

I think it's gonna come back because that's

6:21

Studio fifty four never reopened. Well,

6:23

that was different. There's drugs and everything else in

6:25

that place.

6:25

Oh, yeah. There was there was never drugs

6:27

I can't That was

6:28

That was what

6:31

I mean? That was that

6:33

was something else. Anyway. Anyway. So

6:35

we went to see the music man starring

6:38

Hugh Jackman and Sutton

6:41

Foster. Well,

6:42

let

6:42

me tell you. To

6:43

Sutton Foster from Troy, Michigan. Hey girl.

6:45

A hometown girl. Yeah. This was

6:47

my dream show. I've always dreamed

6:49

to see it on Broadway. It's my favorite,

6:51

and I never thought I would get the chance

6:54

ever ever. And then

6:56

you'd, you know, you hear Hugh Jackman's gonna be

6:58

in it. It's like, oh my god. I would love to see it.

7:00

But in my mind thinking, you'll never you're not

7:02

gonna be able to do that, you know? Blah blah.

7:05

And here I was sitting in that theater. And I'm

7:07

telling you when

7:10

Miriam saying till there

7:12

was you, I just broke down. It

7:14

just was an emotional

7:16

experience. It just went

7:17

it overcame me. It just overcame

7:19

me, Anna. No. In fact, she was singing good nights

7:21

by someone. And it was

7:24

one of her first show first songs that she

7:26

really came out to sing her voice is incredible. And

7:28

it just it it surprised

7:29

me. It just overtook me. It was

7:32

just so wonderful. There were some

7:35

things about the show that I thought were real. First of all,

7:38

the music band is now ruined for us forever.

7:40

We'll never we'll never see a better version

7:42

of it ever. Ever. Ever.

7:45

We'll never see a

7:45

better.

7:46

To me, it was like seeing people who saw zero

7:48

mastel and fiddle around the roof.

7:50

It would be like that. It'd be like that. And then

7:52

fiddle and then he's never reprise that

7:54

role. And, you

7:56

know, Yeah.

7:57

It was like it was it was literally absolutely

8:00

bonkers insane.

8:02

Hugh Jackman was phenomenal. He was

8:04

great. He was super great. Okay.

8:06

Huge Jackman. Huge. Oh my god. One

8:08

of the things that

8:10

I thought was really cool was

8:13

Hugh Jackman being in the show. He

8:15

was so He

8:17

was really good. Harold Hill was like It's

8:20

like a a pretty

8:22

simple vocal. Rall.

8:25

I wouldn't say it was it's like a it's not a

8:27

complicated -- Yeah. -- vocal -- Vocals.

8:29

-- that locariums. You gotta have good

8:31

time. Yeah? Don't

8:33

necessarily have to be a fantastic singer.

8:36

And he was great. I have never seen

8:38

like a friggin mega superstar

8:40

in a show before, so that was really cool

8:42

to see. Oh, also, by the way, guys, we're

8:45

talking to you about the

8:47

show, the music, man, it closed

8:49

this this week, January fifteenth. Yeah. By the time

8:51

this podcast comes out, you won't be able to see the

8:53

music man on Broadway so sorry. But we'll you

8:55

can do it right seriously through us.

8:58

Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that I

9:00

thought was really interesting about the show is seeing

9:02

somebody at that level perform.

9:05

And let me tell you what when Hugh Jackman

9:07

uncovered his face for

9:09

the first time because there's this whole scene

9:11

in the train and it was just so big of

9:13

getting in.

9:13

But Ian covered his face the applause break

9:16

for him just standing there

9:19

was, like, three minutes off. Because on the train

9:22

scene, the interesting part is how they block

9:24

that scene, and I've seen it done

9:26

before. They blocked the

9:28

scene, so your eyes are, let's say, stage

9:31

right. Everything is happening stage

9:33

right, so your eyes follow it. And

9:36

all of a sudden, he staged

9:38

left and stands up. Out

9:40

of his seat on the train and you're like, oh,

9:42

my gosh. It it's a the blocking

9:45

is incredible because you don't see him

9:47

get on that train. You're really not you don't

9:49

see it and all of a sudden, boom, there he is. He

9:51

stands up and my crowd goes

9:54

nuts. I think there was one thing I

9:56

read and saw when it opened that he got,

9:58

like, a ten minute applause, Pete,

10:01

and they had to just shut

10:03

it down because people were just going

10:04

crazy. I

10:05

wonder how they shut it down. I don't know,

10:07

but they couldn't get people to stop

10:09

because they were So and and the way they bring

10:11

him on is so exciting.

10:13

One of the craziest things is

10:16

one of the craziest things too is that

10:18

Hugh

10:19

When when you're on Broadway, you actually

10:21

get paid by a week, did you know that

10:23

you paid by the week?

10:25

No, I didn't. Yeah. Not, like, an

10:27

hour leaping and it's not, like, a salary

10:29

thing, you get paid by the week and, like,

10:31

how many like, eight shows a week and

10:33

that's, like, your weekly. Right. Right.

10:35

Or, like, I get and maybe it's

10:38

per show. I forget how it was explained

10:40

to me. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Per

10:42

show and then you would get what you do for the week.

10:44

It is said that

10:46

Hugh Jackman is making

10:48

two hundred thousand dollars a

10:51

week on the show alone,

10:53

So two hundred thousand dollars a week, if

10:55

he just two hundred thousand dollars a week, that

10:58

means he's making eight hundred thousand

11:00

dollars a month, which would mean

11:03

In the six month run of the show, he's making four

11:05

point eight million dollars. That sounds

11:07

low to me.

11:08

That sounds low to me too. Yeah.

11:10

I think that sounds kinda low. Let's hold on.

11:12

Let's look it up. According to Bright

11:14

what is this bright star musical dot com, they're

11:16

saying a hundred thousand dollars a

11:18

week? I thought yesterday with our crowd that

11:20

we were with, they were saying he got six hundred thousand

11:22

a week and that makes sense to me. But

11:26

anyway, yeah, if

11:28

you get a yeah. If you get somebody to that

11:30

level, There you go. The one

11:32

of the things I wanted to say was

11:35

I was the person who played the mayor

11:38

in the show. I kept looking at him thinking,

11:40

poo he looks familiar and then ding and hit

11:42

me. He was Mark Lynn

11:44

Baker and he is very

11:46

talented. He's been a lot of broadway

11:49

productions on his own talent studio,

11:52

whatever. He was actually for people

11:54

who are my age. He was in Mark and Mindy

11:56

with Robin Williams back in the sixties.

11:59

He played played in that show, so anybody

12:01

remembers that show will remember

12:03

him, Marklyn Baker, he was really,

12:06

really excellent great voice and everything.

12:08

The other thing,

12:09

Joe, you and I mentioned, was because

12:12

it's, like, closing week.

12:14

Yeah. So this was so And where

12:17

Jackman, he was so

12:20

playful on that stage. What if he

12:22

he came off as such a funny man. He was

12:24

playing Pranks sort of on Miriam,

12:27

and she would couldn't hide

12:29

her laugh and she would start laughing. She'd raise her

12:32

arm to sing and he'd tickle her under her arm.

12:34

You know there was things happening

12:36

Sutterly, not unprofessional, that

12:39

were just hilarious, and the crowd

12:41

was going on. It was so and also here's

12:43

the thing you when you're, like, that big

12:45

of a star. Like I said,

12:48

last week's episode is I love that

12:50

about live performances. You don't know gonna

12:52

happen. And they were just doing it was very clear

12:54

that they're doing

12:55

just, like, little subtle things to, like, kinda

12:57

make each other laugh

12:58

little bit, but

12:59

it's closing week. They're never gonna play these

13:01

calls again.

13:02

Right. Some

13:02

people really hate that.

13:04

think it was their last matinee, actually. Some

13:06

directors and some producers no. It's not their last

13:08

matinee on Sunday. Okay. Some directors and some

13:10

producers hate that.

13:13

But, like, I don't know. I think it it that's

13:15

the element of theater that is

13:17

different from watching a movie

13:19

or watching a video. The

13:22

difference is that, like, you're actually there

13:24

in the moment and it reminds the audience,

13:26

they're alive and

13:27

living, and they're doing this for you right

13:29

now. Right. True. And, you know, the

13:32

you've gotta be able to trust your actors

13:34

when that starts to happen. And

13:37

they're very professional. And even

13:39

though they were he got thrown off by her

13:41

too, she she came back at him, which was funny

13:43

and what he thinks she pushed him. And

13:46

he came back to add her, like, a real sexy

13:48

sort of move, and she just started

13:50

to laugh. And you just have to trust your

13:52

actors that they're still professional enough that they're not

13:54

gonna go over the line. If they do,

13:56

then you take care of it in the wings.

13:58

You know? Sort of thing. So it was

14:01

so nice to see that playfulness that

14:03

we got to witness for

14:04

sure. The cast was superb. The

14:07

kids in the show? Yeah.

14:09

Oh my god. Yeah. That's What's

14:11

stellar talent? I'm thinking these are just

14:14

kids. I mean, eight years old,

14:17

you know, with voices and

14:19

dancing. And what oh my

14:21

god. This kid lead a normal life.

14:23

It no way. No way.

14:25

I actually I did

14:27

a remember when I did that, I

14:29

did a speaking gig at the Mon

14:31

Tac Tac Resort

14:34

In upstate New York.

14:36

Oh, yeah. And it was for

14:38

the, like, New York State

14:41

Charter School independent schools

14:43

society blah blah blah something like

14:45

that. Right? Mhmm. And they were from all over

14:47

the state, from, like, booji

14:49

ass. Private schools from all over

14:51

New York City. Right. And I was sitting at a table

14:53

with a couple teachers who taught at private

14:56

schools in New York City. Mhmm.

14:59

And they taught at these performing arts

15:01

schools where the kids

15:03

are they were like half of our kids are

15:05

in shows right now. And I was like,

15:07

really, they're like, yeah. And some of them

15:09

will, like, go do the show and then, like, come back six

15:11

months later and then, what do we do? You know what I mean? Yeah.

15:14

But they're, like, these little kids

15:16

are you could see the

15:19

way they acted, the

15:22

how perfect their dancing was,

15:24

how how unpoint their

15:26

singing was. Yeah. You could tell that

15:28

these kids were terrain. Oh,

15:31

yeah. They did not just find good kids

15:33

who could do it. Like, these kids were

15:35

train Train. Train. No. Interesting.

15:37

We were with my friend Anne last night who was

15:41

a bit of a who's who in the opera world.

15:44

Yeah. But she was explaining to

15:46

us how -- Diane. -- the Diane.

15:48

The the difficulty

15:52

of a child actor than becoming

15:54

a a working actor

15:56

as an adult -- -- because being a

15:59

good singer and being a good performer

16:01

as a child is different than being a good singer

16:03

and a good performer as an adult. Mhmm. And you

16:06

sometimes don't, like, when your

16:08

body changes and your voice changes

16:10

and all that, you sometimes don't have

16:12

it anymore. And I was thinking that too, like,

16:14

oh, I wonder how many of these kids

16:16

will actually, like, do this

16:18

for the rest of their life. I would say probably most

16:20

of them are gonna be involved in theater for the rest

16:23

of their

16:23

life. What did she say? I don't know. I think

16:25

I think their inspiration and their parents

16:27

inspiration is to get them to be the Hugh

16:30

Jackman of the stage of them, you know,

16:32

Sunfaster stage. And it

16:34

seems like you know, how many

16:36

of those how many kids actors

16:39

kids stage Mhmm.

16:40

-- actors do you know that have risen? I

16:42

had him. One time I was

16:45

you know how in certain cultures like it's

16:47

like math, math, math, math, math,

16:49

math reading, reading, reading, you know. Right.

16:51

There was a student

16:54

in my class whose parents were like that

16:56

were very old school thinking

16:59

culturally. And they just

17:01

wanted her to be a doc Like,

17:03

they wanted this little girl to be a doctor and

17:06

she we were in fifth grade, so I was like calm

17:08

down. First of all, they wanted

17:10

her to be a doctor so bad, and they should

17:12

this little girl was

17:15

made to perform or to be involved

17:17

in the arts in somehow? Do you know sometimes you

17:19

just get a kid in your classes that like, undeniable.

17:22

Yeah. And she loved

17:24

to sing. She loved to dance and

17:26

act, and she was so involved in it, and she was

17:28

talk about it all the time. And her

17:30

mom came into a

17:33

conference and was saying,

17:35

she's first of all, though, I'll never forget the phrase she

17:37

was, she goes, I don't know what's wrong with her.

17:40

Oh, wow. She goes her brother chooses

17:43

to read medical books. He's in middle

17:45

school, chooses to read that in his free

17:47

time. He is doing all this extra

17:49

math for himself, and he wants to and

17:52

she doesn't do any of this. She she

17:54

All she does is sing. All she wants to do and I

17:56

said, is there no value in the arts? I said that to

17:58

her. I said, is there no value in the arts? And

18:00

I told them, I was very hard for me, but I told them,

18:03

I go, she's expressing not

18:06

only her interest, but what she's good at.

18:08

Mhmm. And it was just so sad to

18:10

me that this then this parent was not

18:12

having any of

18:13

them. No.

18:13

I bet not. It's a it's a scary thought to

18:15

be honest with you as a parent. No. I mean Sure.

18:19

Sure. Sure.

18:22

But it's a scary thought if you're looking

18:24

at it like your kid has your

18:26

kid has a minimal chance of getting

18:28

to like Hugh Jackman, sudden foster

18:30

status for sure. Right. But there

18:32

are so many other jobs

18:34

in this industry that that in

18:37

entertainment -- Right. -- in theater,

18:40

in dance, and whatever it is, that that

18:42

child could be so happy for the rest of their

18:44

lives. Right. You know, working

18:46

on costumes, set designs,

18:49

stage managing, front of the house.

18:51

The there's financial managers who work in

18:54

the field. Like, there's

18:54

everything. You know? It's just that you be involved some

18:57

way, but it's Laura. So as

18:59

Laura was going to do So

19:01

we're calling I guess we're I guess we're name

19:03

dropping our family again back

19:05

to that. I would I think I remember she

19:07

was going to go into --

19:09

Dramaturg.

19:10

-- costume design. I

19:12

don't want it to be a dramaturg. The hot

19:14

no. In college, she was

19:16

gonna do history of

19:18

costuming to be able to

19:21

work on movies and set to

19:23

do the historical research on

19:25

what the costume should look like for the period

19:28

of the story.

19:30

She would have been so good at it. So

19:32

good at it. I don't know what happened,

19:34

but she would have been so good

19:36

at it. I didn't even know there was such a degree

19:38

and there must

19:39

be. There must be when you get to these

19:41

people. So one thing I would I do wanna say about that too

19:44

is, like, I know I'm

19:46

not trying to out this person that we're talking

19:49

about right now. But where they went to college

19:51

was not the college that you go to to

19:53

get a degree in

19:54

that, I don't think. You don't

19:56

know, you weren't in that path. Well,

20:00

I went to that college, so I think I

20:02

know. I don't think that's the

20:04

place where you get a degree in

20:06

that. And now everybody

20:09

knows. Mom, you gotta stop talking

20:11

about family and friends on the podcast

20:13

by

20:14

name. Why? Just say this person

20:16

I know. Okay. This

20:18

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20:23

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this is certainly a show that's gonna last

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as long as I could get Hugh Jackman

24:41

was that that year because he's in

24:42

everything. But can I give a little bit history

24:44

of music, man? Would you mind? Okay.

24:46

Do you wanna give history of the music, man? Or

24:48

do you want me to give you a synopsis of

24:51

the New York Times review of the music

24:53

man that you wanna do.

24:54

Which

24:54

one you wanna first?

24:56

The New York Times review.

24:57

Okay. The title of the review.

25:00

Is this review from last night's show?

25:03

No. What's the date on this? February

25:05

tenth? Oh, wow. It was the fur

25:07

when it opened.

25:08

It's usually when they do the review is when the show

25:10

is Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. February

25:13

tenth twenty twenty two. This has been on Broadway

25:15

for a year. I just finished Dementia,

25:18

I just finished saying, how

25:21

does your how does it listen to me? February

25:23

tenth twenty twenty two of

25:25

twenty two, they opened and they have just

25:27

been on just under a year.

25:29

That's probably as long as they could get

25:31

you Jackman. Does that that sentence

25:34

ring a bell in your

25:35

head.

25:35

Well, I guess so now. Okay.

25:36

There you go. So it's the re their opening night review.

25:39

That's what you're giving us. An opening night review,

25:43

Maybe things have changed in a year. Okay.

25:45

I would love to see a closing night review.

25:48

Yeah. Review from The New

25:50

York Times. Written

25:52

by Jesse

25:53

Green. Even with Hugh Jackman,

25:55

the music man goes flat. Oh,

25:58

shit.

25:59

Sutton Foster also returns to the neat

26:01

perky overly cautious

26:04

Broadway revival of a musical

26:06

that needs to be more of a

26:08

con. There comes a moment in

26:10

the latest Broadway production of the music

26:12

man when high spirits, terrific dancing,

26:14

and big stars align in an extended

26:17

marvel of showbiz salesmanship.

26:19

Unfortunately, the moment is

26:21

the curtain call.

26:23

Is there more? There's a lot more.

26:26

Until the until then, The

26:28

musical, which opened on Thursday night

26:30

at the Winter Garden Theatre, only intermittently

26:33

offers the joys we expect from

26:35

the classic revival starring Hugh Jackman

26:37

and Sutton Foster especially one

26:39

so obviously pattern on the success

26:42

of another classic revival Hello,

26:44

Dolly from a few seasons back.

26:46

The frenzy of love unleashed on the show

26:49

by that's talking about bet that

26:51

that middle learn hello, Dolly. I

26:53

don't know. They they rip it apart.

26:55

But Jackman mostly suppresses his

26:57

darkening charisma here. This

26:59

is not a star turn like dolly

27:02

levi or for that matter, Peter

27:04

Allen and the boyfriend Oz. Instead, he

27:06

seems to see him as a character role

27:08

a cool manipulator traveling horn

27:10

dog who's being unprincipled, but

27:12

also be unlovable. The result

27:14

is a smart but strangely inward performance

27:17

by turning away from the audience. He not

27:19

only undersells big numbers like

27:21

you got trouble in which his spellbind

27:24

citizens of River City into believing

27:26

that the recent arrive of the pool table

27:28

will cause Juvenile to link with c for the

27:30

boy band as the solution, but

27:32

also it undersells the storyline to

27:34

us. Wow.

27:38

But the casting of Sutton Foster introduces

27:40

a problem that even she cannot

27:42

solve. It's an outpouring musical styles

27:45

and center point numbers. Wilson's score is

27:47

brilliantly designed to push different

27:49

world views into proximity and

27:51

sometimes into harmony. So soaring

27:53

above more pedestrian sounds, the

27:56

town's people with their low down

27:58

dances, thickly harmonized barbershop

28:00

credits and Chris Civic Anthem's Marion

28:02

Soprano liter literalizes

28:05

the idealism at heart of the

28:07

character and conflicts Her lifting, good

28:09

night sweetheart, someone Harold Hill, rogersley,

28:12

the seventy six drum bones, could not be

28:14

more oppositional until It

28:16

turns out that they are in fact in the same melody

28:18

and in different actives at a different tempos.

28:22

Though Foster can sing, The

28:25

required notes, she's a really

28:27

she really is a belter with a

28:29

mezzo quality to her voice that regardless

28:32

of pitch In her high flung song,

28:34

she works too hard to force the

28:36

bloom when it's needed

28:39

to erase the exuberance. My

28:42

white night area is a usually rangy

28:45

highlight of the role. Wow. I

28:47

don't I so disagree.

28:50

Unfortunately, the flatness is

28:53

an academic of this production. Holy

28:55

shit is this guy's own

28:57

coach. I I just

28:59

really disagree, I guess.

29:01

Well, let me just say something. First

29:03

of all, I

29:06

would have loved to seen the opening night,

29:08

and I can't imagine that it

29:10

was anywhere near as horrific

29:12

horrific as he

29:13

says. Period. Were there

29:15

any shows? Any show has tweaks

29:17

here and there. So this asked

29:20

jerk. Obviously, there's

29:22

people who like certain

29:25

shows and don't like certain shows no matter

29:27

what. And it's very

29:29

possible that he's just not

29:31

a lover of music man period. Or

29:34

he really thought he saw all this.

29:37

It doesn't make him right. Right. It doesn't

29:39

make the experience of probably the

29:41

rest of that audience the

29:43

same.

29:43

Right. No. That's the thing with the reviews. This is

29:45

one person's opinion. Can you imagine that,

29:47

you know, the first thing that I always

29:50

saw or read is that when

29:52

a play goes up, the first thing they do is grab the

29:54

New York. What is the New York Times? Right. And

29:56

look at what's the review from last

29:58

night? I hope the hell.

30:00

Well, clearly clearly, I mean, it

30:02

lasted much longer than that review.

30:06

Oh, for sure.

30:06

I don't know. I just first of all, this was I

30:09

mean, it's no denying. It was a money grab.

30:11

They put two huge stars as the

30:13

leads. Like, this was

30:15

it I don't know. Was it thing, and it's the music,

30:17

man. It's classic. It's it's but

30:19

that's also why I loved

30:21

it. It was classic Broadway.

30:23

It it It was the GlipT. It was the glam, it was

30:25

everything. Let's talk can we talk about

30:27

the show itself for a second? Yeah, please. Weird

30:30

show if you think about it. Real

30:32

really weird show. This

30:35

con artist comes if you think

30:37

about it, this con artist comes into

30:39

the city Fucks around with

30:41

everybody, falls in love

30:43

with a heavy hitter in the city, she

30:46

backs him up, changes

30:48

the viewpoint of everyone in the city

30:50

to realize that what he did

30:52

if you look at it another way, it really

30:55

wasn't that bad. He

30:57

makes all of the money that he took

30:59

to scam these people and

31:01

one hundred percent gets away with it. At

31:04

the end of the play, I was kind of like,

31:06

Oh, this is just a swindling card Honors

31:08

to, like, totally get away with

31:10

that. It's just it's it if

31:12

you wanna take reality, into

31:15

every story. The magic of the it's

31:17

the magic of the

31:18

story. It's the possible

31:20

Magic of the story of a con artist gets away

31:22

with this comment.

31:23

Does everything have to be

31:23

real? No. But You

31:25

know, why can't it just be Do you like

31:27

that story line?

31:29

I love the story line,

31:31

really ascends

31:34

to

31:35

a a beautiful story. What is okay.

31:37

Tell me, you're beautiful. He changes

31:39

the

31:39

hearts and minds of of

31:42

of a and I'll give you some history later, but hearts

31:44

and minds of the of a town that was had has

31:46

nothing. The kids had nothing. But

31:49

then they became having dreams and

31:51

hopes and and excitement in

31:53

their

31:53

city,

31:54

even though they all founder just came through.

31:56

But I don't wanna get heavy into

31:58

it's a fun

32:00

filled possibility that

32:03

brought you to your feet.

32:04

Right. But this is also how cult start.

32:07

Oh, Joey, please. It's music

32:09

man. Ma'am, literally

32:13

I'm, hey, I loved it. I absolutely

32:15

loved it. Why do you gotta

32:15

think so deep then? Okay. Let's

32:18

take Lulu Lulu

32:20

Ro, the pants. It's not even Jesus.

32:23

They start telling each other. They start telling

32:25

each other. You can sell these pants and you can be

32:27

this big boss. These women are selling this

32:29

shit and they think they're these big Ross book bosses,

32:31

but really they're broke. And they finally found

32:33

their purpose and they're finally selling

32:35

things and they I am a strong independent

32:37

woman and all this blah blah blah. No bitch.

32:39

You felt for a trap. That is

32:41

nothing. And you found the spin

32:43

on it. I'm telling you.

32:44

And now you think --

32:45

Listen. -- that It's okay because you

32:48

you found some positive loophole and and

32:50

the woman's making the big

32:51

bucks.

32:52

Real life stuff. It's a story.

32:54

It's a fairy tale. It's Can

32:57

you see flaws in the fairy tale? It's

32:59

a freaking fairy tale. Are you gonna are

33:01

you one of those that are gonna say Cinderella wasn't

33:04

good for girls to

33:05

watch? Because blah blah

33:07

Did I say that?

33:08

It is. No. I listened to that. never

33:10

said it wasn't good to watch. I

33:12

never said it wasn't good to watch. Roll back the tapes.

33:15

I said it's a little bit of a

33:17

weird like, that's a weird storyline.

33:20

And also there was one other thing that

33:22

I didn't like in it. And I think in a revival,

33:24

you can change things, I think. That

33:27

one little bitch, Amarillas, she

33:29

makes that boy with the list talk.

33:32

And then, first of all, I wanted to

33:34

backhand her. She the

33:36

little girl, she's like seven or something.

33:39

She's like, oh, Linthrop. Please,

33:42

name my name. Oh my gosh. She won't even talk

33:44

to me, Lee. And then he says, thank you, Amarillo.

33:47

And she laughs in his face

33:49

and two adults are in the house with

33:51

her and no one says, you little

33:53

bitch, apologize. They,

33:55

instead, she turns and she's

33:57

like, oh, I'm so sad. He doesn't

34:00

talk to me. He doesn't like me. He's so

34:02

ashamed of himself, and they're like, we

34:04

know him. I'm realist. It's we're

34:06

we're trying. We're trying no.

34:09

You fucking tell that little bitch about

34:11

you. Give me your phone. And

34:13

you're

34:13

Give me your phone. Yeah. And and nineteen

34:16

whatever they have. Nineteen o

34:18

seven. Give me your phone. And

34:21

you don't have your iPad for the weak

34:23

amorelless. That's what

34:25

I thought. I was just kinda like it's

34:27

weird. I thought it was

34:28

weird. Next, what do you have to

34:30

say? I

34:32

don't know what you need some coffee or a power

34:34

drink connection. Anyway, let me

34:36

give you some history of the music, man. I thought this stuff

34:38

was really, first of all, it's fabulous show.

34:41

I don't look that deep into it. It's

34:43

a great story line and it's classic. You'll

34:45

enjoy it. History is music man.

34:47

It's a musical. It was a book and

34:49

a music and lyrics written by Meredith

34:52

Wilson, and it was based on a story

34:54

by Meredith Wilson and Franklin

34:56

Lacey. Meredith Wilson, the plot

34:58

is the plot was inspired

35:00

by his boyhood Mason City,

35:03

Iowa hometown. He

35:05

developed the theme in nineteen forty

35:07

eight, in a nineteen forty eight memoir, and

35:09

it was called and there, I stood

35:11

with my piccolo after years

35:14

of

35:14

development. Wait.

35:15

What was called in there? I stood with my piccolo. It was the

35:17

name of the show. He he developed

35:20

a memoir called, and there

35:22

I stood with my piccolo, come

35:24

to find out he was He played the

35:26

piccolo, the clarinet, everything, and Phil

35:28

Harmonic orchestras. He was in the John

35:31

Phillips' Souza, orchestra, you know,

35:33

band. Anyway, so he developed

35:35

that memoir. And then after

35:38

that, he developed forty plus drafts

35:40

of the music man It opened

35:43

in nineteen fifty seven at the Majestic

35:45

Theatre, and it ran until nineteen

35:47

sixty one. Robert Preston

35:50

is in the

35:50

Wait. Wait. Did it open?

35:51

Nineteen fifty seven. Wow.

35:54

Robert Preston is in the original cast

35:57

as Professor Harold Hill, and

35:59

he also was in the

36:00

movie. So

36:02

Who was that? Robert Preston?

36:04

Yeah. Robert Preston was a Broadway

36:07

actor and he did some film and

36:09

he was pretty big back when.

36:12

And but his most famous

36:14

role became Professor Harold Hill.

36:17

He died kinda young. I think he was in a sixties

36:19

spot. Yeah. He

36:21

was he was pretty popular

36:24

back then.

36:24

Yeah. Okay. So he was born In

36:28

nineteen eighteen, can

36:30

you do this quick math? Or in

36:32

nineteen eighteen died

36:36

in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah.

36:37

He was about sixty something years old.

36:40

Sixty nine. Yeah. That's

36:42

young.

36:43

Feel like the age people were dying in the

36:45

eighties. Right? Oh, really?

36:47

I

36:47

don't know. Right? Yeah. Has

36:49

the average life expectancy changed

36:51

since then?

36:52

I think so. I think it always changes anyway.

36:54

So that's the history of me. little bit a little bit

36:56

history. There's a lot you can read on it, so go

36:59

ahead because it's fun. And once you see the

37:01

show, It just drives you to wanna know

37:03

more. It did with me

37:04

anyway.

37:04

If you're local theater or something

37:06

does the music man, I'm just gonna say,

37:09

go see it in your great show. For your

37:11

family?

37:12

It's a great show even if it is about a con artist

37:14

who comes almost steady and gets away with it. Anyway,

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you guys, you can become a Patreon member

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and support the podcast and keep us on the air

37:21

at patreon dot com

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slash Joe Dombrowski over there, you

37:25

will find the Let's Watch TV hotline.

37:28

The Let's Watch TV hotline is there for

37:30

you. Go ahead, give it a call,

37:33

and let us know what TV

37:35

show you want us to watch when we get back to let's

37:37

watch TV shows and we're done in

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New

37:39

York. So keep us posted. And we'll see

37:41

you next time on. Let's

37:43

march Broadway. Bye.

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