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today. The

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internet's so mean, I would be too. Right?

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Like I get it now. Like ruddit is the scariest

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way I've ever heard of it. Girl, you should not

2:12

be hanging out on there. I shouldn't be hanging out

2:14

there. I really don't. I've gotten better. Last year was

2:16

rad. Oh. Because you're curious.

2:18

At first you'll... And you like learn information

2:20

there. Like sometimes they have info and you're

2:23

like, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

2:26

Sometimes it's info that's not real. It's like

2:28

self-evident. It's like self-avital. So like, you know

2:30

how you're just like, I want to

2:33

hurt my feelings. Oh,

2:35

100% with ruddit. If

2:38

I ever am in that

2:40

like self-loathing mood, ruddit. Yeah.

2:43

But that's like once every few months. It's so

2:45

toxic. Why do we do that? Yeah. Yeah.

2:49

At least it's not every day. Yeah. Okay. So

2:52

you don't go on ruddit every day? No. Just

2:54

when I'm in a mood and I let hurt my feelings. Right.

2:57

But for the most part, I can't complain. For the

2:59

most part, people are nice. But really. For the most

3:01

part. They won't be prolonged. No. They'll

3:03

turn on you. Yeah. Games

3:05

is always like, don't care if they like

3:07

you because the next week they won't. Yeah.

3:09

I like them. That's really, that really is

3:11

how it goes. I used to

3:13

do this thing where

3:15

I would intro my guests and

3:18

intro the show. Okay. And

3:20

now I'm trying to do this new thing where I'm like,

3:23

can we just be a little more chill

3:25

about it? I love that. But this is

3:27

Ali Luber. It's Luber. Okay. It's

3:30

Luber. Did anyone ever like in high

3:32

school be like, Ali Luber? I was

3:34

called Lubbs. It just Lubbs. Or just

3:36

Luber. Mm. Yep.

3:39

Yep. Okay. I

3:41

love that you know that. I'm like, I will

3:43

not do an intro. And I'm like, this

3:45

is Ali Luber. Welcome to Socio with an

3:48

F. Please subscribe. Okay.

3:52

We met. Yes. How

3:55

long ago was that? So it was

3:57

the first BravoCon that I

3:59

attended. So two years ago. Two

4:02

years ago, were you on Vanderpump

4:04

Rules yet? I, yes,

4:06

we had just wrapped filming, but

4:09

I had not watched it yet. So like

4:11

it hadn't aired yet. Okay, so that was

4:13

my time as like anxiety. And like, what

4:15

am I getting myself into? Right, yeah. I

4:18

remember walking in to like whatever hotel

4:21

it was. Yeah, we were at the

4:23

Gansevoort, and I like fangirled. You

4:27

made me feel so

4:29

much better because I walked in

4:31

and it was every second Bravo

4:33

celebrity. It was housewives. It

4:35

was obviously all the Vanderpump people, but housewives. And I remember

4:38

seeing you and I was like, shut the fuck up. And

4:40

I like told my mom, I told James, I was like,

4:42

that's just ya, that's just ya. I know, and then I

4:44

think, did you come up to me and like, hey, can

4:46

we get a pic or was it James on your behalf?

4:49

I think it was you. I don't even remember. Maybe.

4:52

Yeah, I might've been nervous and made James like

4:54

break the ice or something. Which is so cute.

4:56

That's so cute. With the fact that you did

4:58

that, I deserved to

5:00

be here. My

5:03

attitude did a total mess. I

5:05

was like, fuck everyone, this is so weird.

5:10

I remember you actually had like a

5:13

lasting impression on me. You

5:16

were so genuine and kind. Oh

5:19

my gosh. Thank you. Exactly how you come

5:21

off on the show is you in real life. Thank

5:24

you for everyone on fucking Reddit,

5:26

okay? So, Ali.

5:29

Thank you. Yes. Can we

5:31

please talk about the birth chart thing? Yes.

5:34

You went to college

5:36

to major in, yeah,

5:38

I studied entertainment journalism.

5:41

And I went initially for music.

5:44

I went to college in Nashville. So I

5:46

was like trying to do that. And

5:48

then, yeah, that was kind of intense.

5:50

And I like the hours

5:52

that you have to put it in the school

5:55

of music was so intense. And I just wanted

5:57

to have fun. So school of music. So

6:01

a school of music like on

6:04

an end, like were you learning an

6:06

instrument? Are you learning about like composers

6:09

from the past? Because I

6:11

did a music theory class. Oh my

6:13

god, so hard. The hardest shit of

6:15

my heart. Yeah, it's intense. I went

6:18

for voice so I was a vocal

6:20

major. But

6:23

yeah, it wasn't tense. And

6:25

then I switched majors like the first semester because

6:27

all my friends were having fun and I was

6:29

like in the music room for like

6:32

10 hours. You're like, what is college for?

6:34

Literally, yeah. And yeah, no,

6:36

exactly. I wanted that experience and no

6:38

regrets. But yeah, after I graduated from

6:40

Nashville, like literally the next day I

6:42

moved to LA, which was always kind

6:44

of the plan. Okay. So

6:47

where did astrology come in?

6:49

Tell this because I read

6:51

that you were like studying

6:53

meteorology at one point, which

6:55

is crazy, which is

6:57

so cool, but like nerdy, but like the coolest

7:00

thing in the whole world. Yeah, I thought so

7:02

too for a minute. If we thought music theory

7:04

was hard. Oh my god, meteorology. No,

7:06

it was so hard. It humbled me so quickly. I

7:09

was like, I'm an idiot. We

7:12

well, I studied, when

7:14

was that? That was like two or three

7:16

years after college. So I moved to LA

7:18

is really hard to get a job and to work.

7:21

And this was during COVID. And I actually had a

7:23

neighbor who worked at CNN. So he

7:25

was a news anchor at CNN. And he was

7:27

kind of like, I think you would do great

7:29

as a meteorologist. And I was like, I don't

7:31

know how to take that. I'm like, it's kind

7:34

of sexist, but okay. But he was

7:36

really sweet and nice. So he

7:38

kind of mentored me. And then I

7:40

started taking the classes and hated it.

7:42

It was just so hard. But meanwhile,

7:44

I always had loved astrology. And

7:46

I also started during COVID studying

7:49

that too. Okay. You've

7:52

always been into astrology,

7:54

like, yeah, little. Yeah.

7:56

Since I was little, I mean, obviously it didn't go.

7:59

I didn't go. to the full extent of

8:01

it until college and COVID era, like later

8:03

in life. But yeah, as a kid, you

8:05

know, you'd read Cosmo and like all the

8:07

magazines and go to the horoscope section. And

8:09

see if the guy you have a crush

8:11

on is meant to be. Exactly.

8:15

Yep. The thing about astrology,

8:17

this is random as fuck.

8:20

But I was watching this

8:22

documentary for no reason.

8:25

I have no idea why it was on

8:27

my TV called Zeitgeist. And

8:30

it was basically saying all

8:32

religion is based on astrology.

8:34

I mean, yeah, I mean, I would I

8:36

could see that for sure, especially with the

8:38

mythology of it all and just like the

8:40

stories of the Greek gods and things like

8:42

that. Like that makes sense. And at the

8:44

end of the day, like we're all connected,

8:47

right? Like it goes to that deeper meaning,

8:49

which I love that because I always

8:51

struggled with religion and I grew up

8:53

saying like Methodist and going to church

8:56

and things that I was always like,

8:58

I don't get it. Like,

9:00

I don't think I don't know about this. Same.

9:03

Yeah, same. I went to I mean, I've

9:05

said this a million times. Private

9:08

Catholic. Yeah. It was Ray's

9:10

Mormon. Right. But my grandma's Jewish. So

9:12

I'm like, what the what the fuck

9:14

are we doing? Right. Yeah. You're like,

9:16

right. Who's wrong? And then it's kind

9:18

of an identity crisis. I went to

9:20

a private Christian school and

9:23

I was like making jokes about like Ouija

9:25

boards because where I came from, like my

9:27

friends and I in high school, we would

9:29

like go to great yards and like I

9:32

loved that shit. Right. I know. Scripio rising.

9:35

This is my love you. OK. Should we

9:37

jump into that? Yes, I'm so excited because

9:39

to be honest, like, yeah, I've been so

9:42

excited. I'm so excited. Ask me anything

9:44

I was. So your chart is so

9:48

watery, but you also have

9:50

a mix of fire. Yeah,

9:52

literally. I'm literally.

9:54

I'm so excited. So

9:58

basically, do you know? big three like

10:00

your sun your moon and your eyes thing I know

10:03

that this Sun is the

10:06

main one right yes so

10:08

your cancer answer rising I

10:10

know Scorpio yeah then

10:12

you are an Aries moon okay so the

10:14

big three is honestly the best place to

10:16

start in astrology it's like talks

10:19

about your main personality like they're

10:21

really important planets the Sun is

10:23

who we are becoming and

10:25

it's what we want in this lifetime

10:27

and your cancer so you're becoming more

10:30

of a cancer every single day you're

10:32

tapping into that energy and you

10:34

know cancers to water sign

10:37

so they are emotional

10:39

and sensitive but powerful when you

10:41

tap into your energy in the

10:43

correct way which is usually like

10:46

you know choosing spirituality

10:49

or creative outlets over the

10:51

other which with water we see you

10:55

know heaviness it's like we can drown

10:57

or we can swim so it's going

10:59

to therapy and you know talking about

11:01

your mental health and yeah not

11:04

are you saying like what

11:06

not escaping not escaping yeah we're keeping

11:08

in a healthy way I guess right

11:10

yeah but when you

11:12

say water signs it's kind of intense

11:15

like sink or swim does that mean

11:17

we are more likely

11:20

to be intense people or no I

11:23

think with cancers yes because I think

11:26

the water signs are interesting so like so you're

11:28

Scorpio rising as well so Scorpio

11:31

is different than cancer they're both

11:33

water signs so they feel immensely

11:36

but cancers are more protective

11:38

they're more like they're nurturing so a

11:40

lot of times with cancers we can

11:42

see them avoiding their own needs and

11:45

feelings to protect others to protect family

11:47

or to protect yeah when it's like

11:49

they're meant to take care of themselves

11:52

and heal themselves because then you're an

11:54

even better caregiver to others so you

11:56

have to put yourself first with Scorpio's

11:59

which is your rising sign. So

12:01

that is who you are showing up

12:03

as every single day. So I love

12:05

that, you know, we were talking about

12:07

how you always said you wanted to

12:09

be a Scorpio because that's who when

12:11

you wake up in the morning, like

12:13

that Scorpio is really your leading energy.

12:15

That's your personality. But that's so crazy.

12:17

But I talked about, I

12:19

guess on an episode, Ali was telling me earlier,

12:22

that I wanted to be a

12:24

Scorpio because they have this reputation

12:26

of being sexual. Yeah. Like having

12:29

a sexual energy. Yep. I

12:31

don't even think at that time I knew. Yeah, that's

12:34

crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

12:36

I manifested it. You did. You knew

12:39

you'd be found. Absolutely

12:41

not because it literally happens

12:43

before you're born. But you

12:45

incredibly knew. Yeah. And cancers

12:47

are ruled by the moon,

12:49

which is the, I mean,

12:51

it's the most spiritual planet. And so

12:53

there is that intensity with with cancers

12:55

and Scorpios, always trust your gut. Like

12:57

you are so intuitive and you're just

12:59

learning how to trust it in this

13:01

lifetime. Oh, my

13:03

God. Yeah. I don't want to

13:05

know that. That was my 2024 goal. Go

13:07

with my gut. I love

13:11

that. Okay. This was nowhere when

13:13

I would fucking read my horoscope

13:16

growing up on whatever website. It's,

13:18

you know, who also has this

13:20

placement, which by the way, you

13:22

also have Pluto in your first

13:24

house, which is that ascendant house.

13:26

It's all about your physical body,

13:28

your personality. You also have the

13:30

planet Pluto there, which is the

13:32

planet of intensity and

13:34

sex and transformation. And so

13:36

this placement is naturally there. They

13:38

are just sexual. They lead with

13:41

that. They feel confident with that.

13:43

And again, just being a bit

13:45

taboo. But Lala can also have

13:47

a Scorpio rising with Pluto in

13:49

the first house. Really? And

13:51

I love her. Yeah. I know you

13:54

guys give off like that same energy

13:56

and actual energy. Would you say I

13:58

give off sexual energy? 100,000% yes. I'm

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You know what's really funny is I do

16:08

think I kind of lead

16:11

or give off a sexual energy

16:14

and I am a sexual

16:16

person but not so much.

16:18

Yeah, it's natural. It

16:20

honestly is so natural to you where other

16:23

people, it's not natural to them and so

16:25

that's why it feels intense because it's just

16:27

something that other people, they

16:29

might not get it. Got it. But that's

16:32

your power. Pluto is all about power. Okay, wait, I

16:34

want to go back to your son real quick because

16:36

I love this. Your son is living in your ninth

16:38

house, which is the house of foreign travel, higher education

16:41

and like belief systems. So I love what we

16:43

were just saying about belief systems and like, what

16:45

do we believe in? The ninth house is very

16:47

wise. It's very philosophical. It's like

16:50

a professor. With

16:53

your son here, again, that's where you're

16:56

getting, the son is always just getting bigger

16:58

and more powerful and warmer and so you're

17:00

tapping into that power every day. So with

17:02

the son in the ninth house, you're going

17:04

to be seen on a

17:07

larger scale. You

17:09

can kind of see that line right there at

17:11

the top of our chart. That's where the son

17:13

is beaming down and your son is literally like

17:15

a couple of degrees away from that line. So

17:18

you're meant to be seen in a larger

17:20

scale. This is a

17:22

big placement for authors. You might write a book

17:24

one day. There's just a lot where like obviously

17:26

with the job you do to like eyes on

17:28

you. Then if we go

17:30

to the 10th, you have Leo and

17:33

that's where Mercury is. And

17:36

the 10th house is the reputation house. It's

17:38

the same house. It's the house where like,

17:41

whether you like it or not, a mic is literally going to

17:43

be put into your hands and you are going to speak. And

17:46

obviously, yeah, yeah. So Mercury in the 10th,

17:48

it's like we see people who are great

17:51

at public speaking, great at talking.

17:53

And again, whether they like it or not, because there's

17:55

people who have this placement that like don't

17:57

want to, don't want to be seen.

18:00

me kind of yeah but it's like it

18:02

doesn't matter like you're going to be yeah

18:04

so it's getting comfortable

18:06

with that and it's Leo so there is

18:08

this like that this like entertainment side to

18:10

it that's yeah okay I like the spotlight

18:12

but then the cancer and the Scorpio and

18:14

you Scorpio is like to not be figured

18:16

out got it yeah whoa

18:19

there's a lot of conflicting things

18:21

a little bit yeah but

18:23

I kind of like it it explains right

18:26

like cuz yeah I mean there's

18:28

so much to everyone and so it's interesting

18:30

to sing how all of the different energies

18:33

and I always say like the planets they're

18:35

all on your team they're all working for

18:37

you so it's nothing to ever be scared

18:39

up but it does validate like struggles or

18:41

obstacles we have to kind of get through

18:43

right yeah that chart

18:45

looks insane it looks like

18:47

it's just to me back

18:49

to trigonometry and high school

18:51

with the protractor Rick do

18:54

you remember that I'm the broad I

18:56

yes oh my god stop we

18:58

are a tree was the worst time of

19:01

my life but no like why like why

19:03

did you guys make me spend money my

19:05

family on a pro track like fuck off

19:07

or that really remember that one calculator that

19:09

was like so it was

19:12

like big tea or something

19:15

like that that shit's

19:17

fucked up trigonometry

19:19

not to brag I was in

19:21

trig as a freshman because I

19:23

was into advanced oh

19:26

yeah you did like money and math

19:28

stuff that makes sense well yeah but

19:30

then by sophomore year I started partying

19:32

and then it went and

19:35

then I went straight back to

19:37

probably everyone but that was

19:39

a I don't think I ever took trig

19:42

really I don't think I did if I

19:46

did I definitely blocked that out yeah I

19:48

don't remember that yes you made sure a block

19:50

that you know I love so much about

19:53

this you're literally interviewing me

19:57

I love how I did that I'm like wait a

19:59

minute the switch on me real

20:01

quick. I love it. You told me

20:03

a lot of positives about

20:07

my astrological

20:10

placements. You

20:13

need to give me one

20:15

or two negatives. Okay. Or you're just really

20:17

really good at how you phrase the negatives.

20:19

I think maybe that's what it was. Yeah.

20:23

I think you probably did say you struggle

20:25

in these areas but you said it in

20:27

such a way that I'm like I'm killing

20:29

it. I know. I did kind of tell

20:31

you watch out for your mental health and

20:33

your physical health but

20:36

I can be a little more blunt. No that's

20:38

why astrology is so fun though because like

20:41

even when I'm doing readings I can kind

20:43

of vibe out the clients that are like

20:45

tell it to me straight like no bullshit

20:47

and then like but at the end of

20:49

the day it is all positive because you're

20:51

perfect. Like the universe designed you this way.

20:53

There are no flaws right. But there's things

20:55

that we can all work on and like

20:57

not me really. But like

20:59

for other people I know for sure. It's true.

21:01

It's true. Okay I will tell you one. Well

21:04

you do really have a

21:07

beautiful chart but I will say you

21:09

also have a very loose grand cross

21:11

which is pretty rare and all that

21:13

means is there's a lot of squares

21:16

in your chart and that's a harsher

21:18

aspect because squares they

21:21

create tension and obstacles and it's

21:23

not a bad thing it just means you

21:25

have to kind of put more work into

21:27

certain areas where it's annoying when

21:29

there's a lot of sex styles and trines like

21:32

those are good aspects but you don't really notice

21:34

them because they kind of just like work out

21:36

and happen but when we have squares it's like

21:38

good things take time and slow and steady wins

21:40

the race so it's putting a lot of work

21:43

to overcome the obstacles which

21:45

obviously is going to be

21:47

more beneficial in the end it will be

21:49

great. Yeah but I feel that for sure.

21:51

Yeah yeah and you can see that big

21:54

square like right in your chart. I

21:56

mean I can't. Yeah no. We will

21:58

be posting this. on

22:00

the YouTube because everyone needed to

22:02

see my astrology shit. So Saturn's

22:04

in your fourth house, which is

22:07

interesting because you have one younger

22:09

brother, right? Yeah. So Saturn in

22:11

the fourth house usually is an

22:13

older sibling placement or someone who

22:15

almost takes, not

22:18

like you're the parent, but

22:20

no, I kind of was. You kind of

22:22

were the dad because Saturn is the dad

22:24

planet and the fourth house is the family.

22:26

Yeah. Single mom. Yeah. I'm 11 years older

22:29

than him. Oh, wow. Yeah. See that's,

22:32

there's a lot of like responsibility that

22:34

you take on your family. Like that.

22:36

Yeah. I feel in charge and in

22:38

control of that. And it's

22:40

harder when we're younger. Saturn is a

22:43

slow moving planet. So it's like a

22:45

lot of lessons. Um, but when you

22:47

were younger, it might've felt like a

22:49

lot of weight on you and a lot

22:51

of pressure. And I'll just let you know though,

22:53

like later in life, that is

22:55

a really powerful placement. Like you, if you ever

22:58

want to start your own family, like you know

23:00

how to do that now. It's like, I know

23:02

how to build the perfect family. I learned from

23:04

this and now I'm going to recreate or like

23:06

change the rules a little bit, but like, you

23:08

know how to do it. Yes. Yeah. I felt

23:11

that before. Yeah. And you know what? I still

23:13

feel the pressure a little bit of

23:15

having to kind of be the

23:18

adult in the family, which I am a

23:20

fucking adult, but you know what I mean?

23:22

Right. Um, but at the

23:24

same time, I think it will be

23:26

such a blessing when I decide to

23:29

have a family. Totally. Which I probably

23:31

should be doing pretty soon. Speaking of

23:34

what astrological sign, Oh, would you

23:36

be good with? Yes. Okay. I

23:39

like you with earth energy. Okay.

23:42

Um, so, Oh, that's, that's

23:44

your mom, right? Yeah. She's Capricorn. Yeah. I like

23:46

you with earth energy because in your seventh

23:49

house of marriage and relationships, you have

23:51

Taurus there. Um, so what

23:54

are the earth's forests,

23:56

Capricorn and Virgo. I've

23:59

never. dated any of those.

24:01

Interesting. Why I'm here

24:04

right now. You're single right

24:06

now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I

24:08

think maybe try out an earth sign.

24:10

Okay. Yeah. I think it would feel

24:13

really grounding. Also earth, think, think,

24:15

you know, green plants,

24:18

money. They really are here to build

24:20

something and like water it and nurture

24:22

it. Like building an empire. That's earth

24:25

energy. This is a little too on

24:27

the nose right now. No, it's crazy.

24:30

I mean, I fucking love it. Yeah. I

24:32

could talk to you for hours. No,

24:34

I know. I like so much. I don't

24:36

want to say I know it's crazy. I

24:39

know a lot of people tuning in are

24:41

like, can we hear about Ali now? So

24:43

yeah, like what the fuck? Like, no, let's

24:45

keep talking about you. I

24:47

do want to talk about not

24:50

necessarily Vanderpump because I know you talk about

24:52

it a lot. And even side you were

24:54

like, I don't

24:56

love talking about it, which I

24:58

totally got. But what was it

25:00

like going

25:02

from normal gal? Yeah,

25:05

to instant celeb. Take

25:08

an instant celeb. I don't think so.

25:10

You did baby girl. Oh my god.

25:12

Okay. So yeah, absolutely. Um,

25:14

yeah, it was weird. It was

25:19

like the around the time that I met

25:21

you, I think I had it fully accepted

25:23

it or understood really what

25:25

was going on because the show had it

25:27

aired. I was still like private on Instagram.

25:29

I never posted like I was so

25:32

uncomfortable on social

25:34

media. So yeah,

25:37

I think I just downplayed it a

25:39

lot. And I was like, it'll be

25:41

fine. I still do that. Right. You

25:43

kind of have to we're like protecting

25:45

ourselves. Yeah. Is it a protection thing?

25:47

Or like, I just think I'm a

25:49

little bit delulu, which is good. Now

25:52

I'm learning to be delulu because

25:54

if we weren't, and James

25:56

helped me a lot because he obviously

25:58

has been in this world for a long time. time. And

26:01

that's why I'm grateful

26:03

for astrology because I do think if

26:05

I didn't start that business or like

26:07

have that, I would just

26:09

be too consumed with it. And

26:11

it's like keeping me grounded. I'm passionate about

26:14

it. And so I'm like really grateful to

26:16

have that. I like that. Yeah.

26:18

But it has been fun. This year I

26:20

finally like accepted it and leaned into it

26:22

and I'm like, Oh, wait, social media is

26:25

kind of fun. Like I like making TikToks

26:27

and content's cool. Like I was such a

26:29

hater. We are

26:32

kind of on the exact same

26:34

path. I don't know how I

26:37

shit on social media all

26:39

the time. I've

26:41

recently been trying to

26:43

put myself out there and it can

26:45

be a lot of fun. It

26:47

can be fun. You know, true.

26:49

And when you really develop it

26:51

is especially TikTok. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

26:54

Yeah. You still got like

26:56

anxiety or like overwhelmed.

26:58

Yeah. Yeah, I

27:01

do. It's gotten a lot better. A lot better.

27:04

And I think like what we were just saying, like

27:06

finding the fun in it because before I wasn't, it

27:08

wasn't fun to me. So I was trying to make

27:10

it perfect. I was trying to make it perfect. And

27:13

yeah, I was like worried what

27:15

people would think and that was just such a waste

27:17

of time. But I think I had to go through

27:19

that to like, you know, I don't

27:22

know, whatever, but it's scary.

27:24

And I think I've learned too that everyone feels that

27:26

way. Like, like a lot of influencer

27:28

friends, I don't know why I did that. Influencer

27:30

friends that I've made are like people like that.

27:32

They were scared at the beginning too. I was

27:34

like, Oh no, they still are, but they are

27:36

still putting out massive amounts of content. You just

27:39

get over the hump. You have to just get

27:41

over it. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's

27:43

because it is fun. I love your TikToks too.

27:45

I feel like TikTok is, is more

27:47

creative than people think. And you can

27:50

do like whatever on there. I know.

27:52

I need to tap into that. Yeah.

27:54

But yeah, you do. Your TikToks are

27:56

funny. I'm funny. Yeah. but

28:00

I really need to like, yeah, I need to learn

28:02

how to edit one. Stop what I'm

28:04

learning right now, actually. Does your team help

28:06

you? That's so nice. You got it. My

28:09

team helps me, but I

28:11

relied on my team so much for like

28:13

the editing or blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I

28:16

need to know how to do this shit myself. You

28:18

can actually like, it's, I never thought

28:20

I'd be able to do it. I was like, I

28:22

hate the post side of stuff. Like I don't want

28:24

to set up lighting and do like the editing, but

28:26

now I actually like the editing. I did a get

28:28

ready with me to come here today. And I was

28:30

like editing it in the car. How long did it

28:32

take you? So what

28:34

I do, I set it on the 10

28:36

minute timer. And so I give

28:38

myself, no, like the first one I ever edited was

28:41

like an hour and I gave it to my friend

28:43

to help. And he was like, what the fuck?

28:45

Like, this is way too long. I was like, oh,

28:47

mine are so long. I

28:50

know. But if you set the timer to 10 minutes,

28:52

then you're, when you go into edit it, it's only 10

28:55

minutes and you just delete a bunch of stuff and you

28:57

get it down to a minute. So how

28:59

long does it take you to edit? Probably

29:01

like 30, 20 minutes. Okay,

29:04

professional. No, I don't know. It depends.

29:06

It depends. It depends, but all around.

29:08

It's gotten easier and cap cuts really

29:11

easy. Like once you do it twice,

29:13

you'll be so, it's quick. You'll

29:16

be good at it. Okay. Yeah, I just

29:18

believe that you get in the habit. Yeah. Which

29:20

I will. Which I am. I think

29:22

your moon and the sixth house, like no

29:25

joke, when you're doing something you love and

29:27

you're passionate about it, like you're unstoppable. You

29:29

can, yeah, your work ethic

29:31

is great. You just have to really love

29:34

what you do. Yes. Love

29:36

what I do. And also I

29:38

don't know why it took me six years

29:41

in the public eye to come

29:43

to this realization that social media

29:45

is my job. Yeah. And I

29:47

need to treat it as that.

29:49

Right. Totally. Well, are you and

29:51

James a match, ossologically?

29:54

So technically like, okay, Capricorn and

29:56

Aquarius, like I wouldn't be like,

29:58

oh, that's fabulous. But they're like,

30:00

you know, you have to look at the

30:03

whole chart and I think planet Venus and

30:05

the moon are really important to look at

30:07

so compatibility and

30:09

astrology Like I know people love to ask about

30:11

it and talk about it, but I'm like, it's

30:13

you know, it's complex Yeah,

30:15

like you yeah, I mean all friends like oh he's

30:18

a Gemini and I'm like, okay, but like okay

30:20

yeah, like let's look a little deeper and

30:24

But James and I do have a chart that's

30:26

very balanced So like I bring to him what

30:28

he lacks and vice versa like he has so

30:30

much fire I don't have any fire in my

30:33

chart you guys he literally wakes me up He's

30:35

like you got to get this down. You got

30:37

to do this and he like motivates me and

30:39

I'm like me Would

30:47

you date someone that had

30:51

Kind of the astrological setup that

30:53

was not compatible

30:56

with yeah, I would because At

31:00

the end of the day It's like a learning

31:02

lesson and I do believe like if you meet someone

31:04

and you love their energy and you love them Like

31:07

you can look at your bird charts as like a

31:09

tool and be like, oh this is where we have

31:11

some Learning lessons and this is

31:13

where I need to show up for you

31:15

and you can show up for me So

31:17

it's actually like we shouldn't be looking at

31:20

it like as an all-or-nothing But instead is

31:22

like a tool. Yes. Yeah, like back to

31:24

the come complexity. Yeah, I mentioned There's no

31:26

like yes or no. This is yeah should

31:28

be your soulmate I think in fact charts

31:30

that are not compatible like they

31:32

don't work that well together have

31:34

I forget where I learned

31:37

this or saw this but they have

31:39

a lower divorce rate because You

31:41

know it takes work and they're putting in

31:43

the work, but in charts that are just

31:46

like perfectly compatible They can burn out quicker

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So how long have you and James

34:51

been together? Two years.

34:54

Okay. Yeah, they're still together. That's

34:56

crazy. Yeah, he's at the hotel.

34:58

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How has he

35:00

been? Good. He stopped drinking

35:02

in April. Okay. He's been sober since

35:05

April. I know. But we're

35:07

good. We're really good. It's funny too

35:09

because like you know obviously the show

35:11

is airing right now and that's all.

35:13

That's like the

35:16

difficult part of our relationship I would

35:18

say is like just watching it back

35:21

but this season it's not really

35:23

that difficult with us so it

35:25

hasn't been bad. And I'm sure

35:28

every season that goes by you

35:31

get more and more accustomed

35:33

to it. Yeah. Right? You're like actually fucked

35:35

up. It's only my second. Why do I

35:38

feel like you've been on this show for

35:40

so long? I'm

35:45

a regular. I think it's because you

35:47

became such a main

35:50

character so quickly. I don't know.

35:52

I really think that's what it

35:54

was. I think. I am because

35:56

you're so relatable. Thank you. And

35:58

people could tell. and

36:00

see the genuineness. That's

36:03

nice. That's nice. Yeah, and

36:05

I guess too, last season was

36:07

also just so like, well, not

36:09

too, like crazy and so unexpected

36:11

that, yeah, yeah. And

36:14

then, you know, obviously like, Raquel Rachel was

36:16

James' ex. And so like, there was that

36:18

tension in the beginning of us like meeting

36:21

and being in the same friend group, which,

36:23

so yeah, last season was definitely more uncomfortable

36:25

for me. I bet. That was one of

36:27

my questions was, how is

36:30

it being

36:32

friends? I mean, I don't

36:34

know if you're friends with, you know, these people

36:36

at this point, but being around

36:39

or being friends with

36:41

women who have had

36:43

sex with your current boyfriend.

36:45

Totally. At first,

36:49

cause I mean, I was just gonna

36:51

say, La La, so I guess

36:53

that's it, right? Is it just that we

36:55

know of? I always like, just Raquel

36:57

and La La. Raquel and La

36:59

La. Yeah. And like, just

37:03

don't tell me at this point. I don't even care. I

37:05

don't wanna know. You know what? It was before you, so

37:07

it doesn't matter. Exactly. And honestly, like leading

37:10

up to filming, I was nervous to

37:12

meet them. And

37:14

you know, La La's got that Scorpio Pluto

37:16

in the first house. I was nervous to

37:18

meet her, but I actually,

37:21

like we really instantly kind of

37:23

clicked. And yeah, it was so in

37:25

the past and just meeting her helped

37:27

and we are friends. And so I've

37:29

accepted that. I don't really even think

37:32

about it. Yeah. It's

37:34

fine. I mean, all of you

37:36

guys have kind of like hooked up with each

37:38

other. They're all like, that's so normal to them.

37:40

I was like, I just have to like get

37:42

used to it. You're like, this is the vibe.

37:45

Like it sounds toxic, but in a weird

37:47

way, it's kind of interesting.

37:49

Like it makes you kind of

37:52

mature and like deal with things

37:54

like head on and

37:56

like you have to face them and you can't like

37:58

run from your emotions. like avoid it,

38:01

which is kind of cool. Yeah,

38:03

I mean, when I see your

38:05

guys' friendships, I think they're

38:07

so cool. Yeah. I

38:09

don't find it weird. Yeah,

38:11

yeah. I think at first

38:13

I did. Well, also because like, Raquel

38:16

and Tom were just acting

38:18

a little inappropriate. So that

38:20

was weird to me. Yeah,

38:22

acting a little inappropriate. But

38:25

everyone else, I think it's cool. So

38:28

with Lala, you felt like

38:30

she was a little intimidating and then you guys

38:32

like hit it off with Raquel. Did you guys

38:34

ever click? I

38:37

think that, you know what's weird? We did

38:39

click at the beginning and I, looking

38:42

back, I think I definitely was just in the

38:44

mindset of like, I want them to know I

38:46

come in peace. Like I'm not trying to like,

38:49

you know. Sure, sure. Yeah, exactly. So

38:51

I was just totally playing the like, that

38:55

part of life. It's good, we're cool. It's

38:57

fine. And Raquel and I

38:59

did relate in some instances

39:01

and, you know, but it

39:03

was just such surface level, like stuff

39:05

to just make it not awkward. Yeah.

39:09

When deep down, of course it is. Yeah. You

39:11

know, like you just can't, we couldn't avoid

39:13

it. It was uncomfortable, but like, I think

39:15

we were just trying to make it not.

39:18

Right. But looking back, like, yeah.

39:20

I think I would. I would just be.

39:22

Yeah. I think for me, it would

39:24

be, I would be

39:26

able to be chill with it, but I for

39:28

sure would have moments here and there of just

39:30

insecurity of like, Yeah. Oh

39:32

my God. She looks really pretty today.

39:35

And not Raquel in particular, I mean,

39:37

any. But yeah, but I did feel

39:39

that way a lot because

39:41

she's gorgeous. And like there, and even just

39:43

moments of like, like

39:45

what was the? Recapping or having to

39:48

talk about it. Yeah,

39:50

exactly. Yeah. Like

39:52

having to talk about it and like, I knew

39:54

that James and Raquel would have to go have

39:56

scenes together or like the fat would be a

39:59

thing. And like. or

40:01

at events that I wasn't there for, because

40:03

I was working at the time. So when

40:05

I wasn't there, and I

40:08

know they're at a pool party. And

40:10

I know they are. I would be at

40:12

work feeling just a little bit. I was

40:14

feeling great. Yeah, I was like, this sucks.

40:16

Yeah. I trust James and it's work. So

40:21

overall it was fine, but there were definitely little moments. I was

40:23

like, this is weird.

40:25

This is not normal. It's

40:27

just totally fair. And

40:30

you and James are doing great now. He's

40:32

at the hotel. What is he doing? Like,

40:34

what are you guys up to while you're

40:36

here? So he had watch what happens live

40:38

last night. And then right now I

40:40

think he like went to the gym or something while I'm here.

40:43

But he has a show tonight, which by the way

40:45

you're on the list. So you should come. I put

40:48

your name and a plus one. So if you want

40:50

to come tonight, it's at Marquee. I'm,

40:52

oh my God, I just remembered his Valentine's Day.

40:54

I was about to be like, I'm there. Maybe

40:57

after dinner. He goes on at one.

41:01

Oh, I know. Okay. We'll

41:03

see. Yeah. I'm going to try. It'll

41:05

be fun. There's a good amount of people

41:07

coming. Yeah. I'll text you and tell you

41:10

about it, but you're on the list. So

41:12

you guys are welcome. How annoying is it

41:14

that people probably, I'm assuming constantly are like,

41:17

how's James doing? Is he sober?

41:19

Like you're as if you're his

41:21

babysitter. That's so true. Yeah. Which

41:23

I'm pretty sure I just did that, but I didn't even

41:25

mean it in a sobriety way. I just meant like, how

41:27

are you guys doing? Totally. I'm kind

41:30

of used to it, but yeah, I

41:32

know what you mean. Sometimes I do

41:34

feel like I asked him. They

41:37

want to call. Totally. It's so true. Yeah.

41:39

I do feel, and he doesn't do podcasts

41:41

and things like that either. So I get

41:43

it in that instance. It's like, yeah, I'll

41:45

tell you how he is. Cause like, yeah,

41:48

but yeah. Is that

41:50

ever good annoying? Not annoying,

41:53

but I think, I think I've just gotten

41:55

used to it. But now that

41:57

you ask and I'm sitting back, it's like, yeah.

42:00

you can speak for himself, and he's good. And

42:02

if he wasn't good, then you would know about

42:04

it, or we wouldn't be together. I

42:09

think it's amazing.

42:12

I know Lala is sober,

42:14

and she's such an inspiration.

42:17

I think the obsession

42:20

with James' sobriety

42:22

to me doesn't

42:25

really sit that well with me.

42:29

I think it's his journey. Obviously,

42:31

he's on reality television, but it's

42:33

like, I

42:35

don't know. I have some

42:38

very controversial views on

42:40

alcohol, I think, where

42:44

I kind of just feel like we're

42:47

very much in this all or nothing

42:49

thing. And I know for certain people,

42:51

that's how it has to be. Right,

42:53

right, right. Like there are certain people

42:56

who have to be

42:58

completely... Yeah. Is it

43:00

obstinate? Is that the word? I think so.

43:02

Yeah, obstinate. Okay, what is it when you

43:04

don't have sex? Obstinate.

43:07

Okay. Right? Wait, what

43:09

is... It works both fucking ways. I

43:13

know exactly what you mean. I'm exploring

43:15

that for myself right now. Yeah. And

43:17

I'm like, okay, I've gone... I've

43:21

tried to do the moderation thing, because I love

43:23

to drink. Like I like drinking. I

43:26

like having fun. I like going out. And

43:28

so I've been playing with it too. And

43:31

especially because James isn't drinking, it helps because

43:33

I don't drink anymore, like at home. Like

43:35

I won't have wine at home. Totally. So

43:38

that's helped. But I know what

43:41

you mean, because I think I

43:43

could find a healthy moderation

43:45

way. Yes. I've grown

43:48

a lot. So I am... Yeah, I

43:50

came back in the day to know. Yeah,

43:53

no bad. But I've just been... I'm in

43:55

the same place as you where I want

43:58

to be intentional. with my

44:01

dressings. But for a second there

44:03

was like for no reason, just

44:05

autopilot, I'm having a glass

44:07

of wine every night. Or two. Totally,

44:10

same. You know? Or three. And

44:12

then you punish yourself because I, before

44:14

filming this year, like January of

44:16

last year, I was like, I'm

44:18

gonna be sober. And I've done this a few times.

44:21

And you know, I

44:23

did it for a while and then it was

44:26

like my birthday and we were at the Chateau

44:28

Marmont and I wanted a glass

44:30

of champagne so badly. And I regret it. I

44:32

was like, Ally, you should have just had the glass

44:34

of champagne. But see, I don't like that. Right, because

44:36

I'm punishing, I didn't have a glass of champagne. And

44:39

like now looking back, I kind of just punished myself.

44:41

Like I should have just had the glass of champagne.

44:43

Because all I was thinking about was like, do I

44:45

not? Do I, do I not? Yes. But

44:48

I've been in that situation, I

44:50

think like these streaks, these sobriety

44:52

streaks, or like 75 hard or

44:54

those things. And

44:58

then it's like the one day you

45:00

decide to, yeah, you know, skew from

45:03

what you're supposed to be doing. It's like, okay,

45:06

well, let's start from the fucking beginning.

45:08

And all the work you've done is

45:10

gone. Like, I just wanna find a

45:12

balance there. You're literally speaking to me

45:14

right now because I'm not drinking right

45:17

now. It's been like three weeks. And

45:19

last night we were at Watch What

45:21

Happens Live. And

45:23

I'm fine right now. Surprisingly, the first week

45:25

was kind of hard. I was like, you know, this lifestyle

45:27

when you're at events and things like that, and it's like

45:30

free and there it's, you have to

45:32

really have self-control. And you have social

45:34

anxiety. It's social anxiety. Cause that's the

45:36

thing I did learn that I'm very

45:38

introverted. And I would actually just use

45:40

alcohol as like, you know, self-medication, which

45:43

isn't great. That's not good. So I

45:46

wanna show myself that I can like

45:48

learn how to be social and stuff

45:50

without drinking, which believe it or

45:52

not, it's fine, I can do it. So like

45:54

proving that to myself has been really good. We're

45:57

doing it right now. Look at that. I think it's

45:59

over. Look at us. Look at us.

46:01

So mature. But yeah, I

46:03

agree with you. It's just because then it's like, what

46:05

about tonight at the show? If I want to have

46:08

one glass and it's like, it's that I'm

46:10

not proud of myself. It's like, yeah, and

46:12

tomorrow I'm going to be like, I don't,

46:14

I can't add that other day to my

46:16

calendar. Exactly. Exactly. And

46:19

then I'm, I'm trying to let go of that. And

46:21

it's like, you know what? If

46:23

you end up doing it, you

46:25

do not need to go straight

46:27

into the self judgment model. I

46:29

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46:32

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free. You

47:14

and James live together. How long have

47:16

you guys been living together for? Oh my gosh. We

47:18

moved in together. Like

47:20

insanely quick. And I know that. Um,

47:23

I'd never lived with a boy before. I actually never

47:25

won. Like I was so scared to live with a

47:27

boy. I'm an only child. I

47:29

like my space. Very like my

47:31

way. Um, but

47:34

my studio apartment at the time. It's

47:37

LA. It's expensive. There was a COVID rate

47:39

and the COVID rate like went away. Um,

47:42

and my rent was increasing by the month. And

47:44

so I was already looking at like moving in

47:46

with one of my friends in Venice and like

47:48

all, you know, and I was just

47:50

kind of bummed because I loved living alone and he was

47:53

moving in.

47:55

Like he was kind of upgrading his apartment

47:57

to a two bedroom anyway. And so honestly,

48:00

Like it made sense and I wasn't

48:02

on, you know, cause I was like,

48:04

okay, but this is crazy. I'm

48:06

not like signing the lease with you. Like there's

48:08

no attachment, you know, with me. If I need

48:11

to leave, I can leave. He's like, yeah, for sure. And

48:14

so yeah, we moved in together. I

48:17

love it. He do. I love

48:19

it. He, but he, there's

48:21

moments, but I think I love that he's a

48:23

DJ because I've learned he's, he's gone for a

48:25

few days and I get my like I know.

48:29

I was just going to say, I

48:32

have lived with a boyfriend and he just didn't

48:34

have that much going on. So he was always

48:36

home. No, no. Yeah.

48:40

I need to date like a pilot. I

48:42

mean, he's gone like two weeks out of

48:45

the month. I think pilot Pete's coming tonight

48:47

to the show. So done and done

48:49

pilot Pete. I'm dead. I

48:51

agree though. Yeah. Like having a space is

48:53

what is important, but he cooks every meal

48:55

for me. Like I'm not. Yeah.

48:58

Like he's, it's great. Yeah. I'm

49:00

happy. You feel like you have to

49:02

defend James all the time. I feel like I,

49:05

I feel like yes and

49:07

no, like I'm starting to,

49:09

yeah, I feel like I'm starting to

49:11

just like not as much,

49:13

but in the beginning I feel like I was defending

49:15

me like

49:17

your relationship. And I was like, it's

49:20

okay. Family, friends, like I

49:22

know what I'm doing. Like he's not like

49:24

what you see on TV. Yeah. He's

49:28

charismatic and you know, he can be a

49:30

lot, but he's also wild. I

49:32

met him. I feel like so chill. Like

49:34

I was shocked when I met him. It

49:37

was the same time I met you. Yeah.

49:39

Just gave me a hug. It was like

49:42

my girlfriend was so nice. Yeah. He really

49:44

is. It's just when he gets like worked

49:46

up over situations, he's very sensitive and he

49:48

wears his heart honestly. And I mean, they're

49:50

going to take kind of the, he's great

49:52

at what he does. Yes. Yeah.

49:54

He's a, he's a great reality TV star.

49:58

Could you imagine James having DJing

50:00

or not doing reality TV like what

50:02

would he do? No, I imagine him

50:04

having his own show. Like I, yeah,

50:06

like he has to do reality or

50:08

DJing? Yes, it has to be one

50:10

or the other. Like that's what he

50:12

was made between. Okay,

50:15

the upcoming season, we're only on episode

50:17

three. I think it was very recent.

50:19

Yep. Do you have any tea you

50:21

can spill? Probably not. Trying to think.

50:25

Is Raquel on it? He doesn't come back.

50:27

Have you spoken to her? No. Not

50:30

at all. No, and no one has.

50:32

Did he launch a podcast? Yeah. But

50:35

like, does it come out weekly? You

50:37

know, I don't know. I don't

50:39

know what is up with that. I haven't

50:41

listened. I listened to the first one because

50:43

I was like, obviously, I'm

50:46

not listening. I don't

50:48

listen anymore. But if I'll

50:50

basically see things online, if

50:52

it's important. But she kind

50:55

of followed my

50:58

how I really feel enough. Yeah,

51:01

that's true. I'm like,

51:03

I'm half kidding. No, she didn't. But

51:05

she did the whole and

51:09

then came out. It's like,

51:11

yeah, here's my podcast. That's

51:13

so interesting. Or maybe

51:15

I'm just so what? No, I'm

51:17

conceited. But I'm saying she can't be I

51:20

actually thought about you a lot. I'm not

51:22

even alive during scan of all just with

51:24

the public hate campaign side of it all.

51:26

And like, I really did feel for her

51:28

in that moment. Because yeah, like, history repeats

51:31

itself. And like, seeing how that affected you,

51:33

it was literally the same thing. And like,

51:35

not good, not right. But yeah,

51:37

that is interesting. There's definitely like a

51:39

parallel there. Totally. Yeah, totally. Okay,

51:44

so how long do you see yourself

51:46

doing reality TV? Do you have any

51:48

idea? Are you just like going with

51:51

the flow like the water sign you

51:53

are? Yeah, exactly. You want a Capricorn?

51:55

Oh, fuck. Earth, Sun.

51:58

We're compatible. But

52:01

the rising sign is water. It's high heat.

52:04

So that's why like the rising sign again, it's

52:06

your energy and motivation. So it's like, I'm

52:09

late. I'm working on my time. It's

52:11

divine timing. Yes. But

52:14

oh, I think with reality TV, I mean,

52:17

yeah, you don't honestly

52:19

look at it as like, I'm supporting James. And

52:22

if the show continues, which

52:25

I hope it does, because I do think that it's

52:28

fun. And it's really, it's, it's

52:30

real, you know, like, there is

52:33

really like the relationships

52:35

are there and it is interesting,

52:37

the dynamic. So yeah,

52:39

as long as that continues and you know,

52:41

James is doing it, then you'll be there.

52:44

Yeah, I guess you were amazing.

52:47

You were so amazing, Ollie. Is

52:51

there anything you want to plug

52:53

or tell people? I

52:56

don't think so. I so

52:58

I did just update my website with

53:01

my reading offerings on it. And

53:03

I'm going to start releasing

53:05

more dates, like more availability the

53:08

last Sunday of every month. Okay,

53:10

what's the website? It's www.AllieLuber.com. Okay,

53:14

and then you're on TikTok,

53:16

obviously Instagram, all the above.

53:18

Correct. Yes. And

53:20

sloots, you know where to find me. So if

53:23

you've been asked Franklin with a Y, I

53:25

love you guys so much. See you next month.