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Were

3:55

you about to tell me something crazy? No, but I just,

3:57

I always say crazy things. I

4:00

just want to say only the crazy things

4:02

that I'm comfortable with saying for other people

4:04

to hear. Okay, so like not for everyone

4:06

to hear what you're saying. Yeah, K-field, tell

4:09

me like the crazy crazy Shafter. Yeah, yeah.

4:13

Yeah, I have no filter, so anything. Either do

4:15

I, which is kind of gets me in trouble,

4:17

but it's also way more fun. Lana

4:20

Rhodes, hi, thank you for

4:22

being here. I'm doing this new

4:24

thing where I like don't intro my podcast like

4:27

a weirdo. Like usually I would sit here and

4:29

be like, hi, everyone. Welcome

4:31

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4:33

to my YouTube channel. And like my

4:35

guest is just sitting there like waiting.

4:37

No, and I don't feel like you

4:39

need it. Like that's a bit corny

4:41

and everyone does it. So like forget

4:43

it. There's so many podcasts now, like

4:45

make yours different. No intro. Thank you.

4:48

But Lana, okay. We

4:50

met like seven years

4:52

ago or some shit. Not seven. Five.

4:55

Like four or five. Okay. Cause

4:57

it was when I first started dating and what's it say? Mike. Yeah.

5:01

Yeah. Mike doesn't, he's not

5:03

really a big fan of me anymore.

5:05

Really? Why so? It's kind

5:07

of a long story, but not

5:09

like basically he said he was

5:11

like doing an interview and was

5:13

fucking her. I was

5:16

texting him while he was doing

5:18

this interview. I thought we were

5:20

talking right away. And

5:23

he says out loud. I think he was

5:25

like trying to date me and

5:28

then it was published. So then

5:30

I did an interview with Jeff

5:33

Whittick. Yeah. And

5:35

I think Jeff brought it up and I was like,

5:37

Mike tried to fully make out with me and I

5:40

turned him down and then

5:42

that really upset him. It's a bit of a big

5:44

mouth too. They

5:46

all do, but I think his girlfriend really

5:49

didn't like that, but it happened before they

5:51

were a thing. Yeah. That's why

5:53

me and him quit being friends too because he has a girlfriend now.

5:56

Yeah. And she doesn't like that. No,

5:58

I'm assuming. Yes. Well,

6:00

I don't think she likes me either. I

6:03

don't think, I mean, I don't

6:05

like saying that thanks for other girls, but I

6:08

just don't think she likes other girls in general.

6:10

That's what it seems like. So I kind of

6:12

put to each their own. Yeah, I got that

6:14

vibe too. But you know what?

6:16

This is about you. Yeah,

6:18

yeah, yeah. And I don't want to talk shit

6:20

about anyone like all girls are different. Like some

6:22

are young, but haven't made it to certain points

6:25

in their life yet where they're, you know, comfortable

6:27

with things. So very true. And I

6:29

could see you being intimidating, right? Like, oh my

6:31

God, it was long row. Oh my God. No,

6:34

she shouldn't be. First

6:36

of all, me and Mike had been

6:38

broken up for what, like three, four

6:40

years before they even

6:42

met and haven't hooked up since

6:44

we broke up. No,

6:46

actually one time, maybe

6:49

like a year ago, we were like, yeah, let's hook

6:51

up. And like we went to do it. We just

6:53

started laughing. And it was really

6:55

weird. Shut it up. And you

6:57

couldn't go through with it because you guys just

6:59

hit such like a friend. Yeah. We're

7:02

like brothers and sisters. Yeah. I

7:06

mean, I haven't sucked my real

7:09

brother's dick and I wouldn't, but

7:11

I understand. Honestly,

7:13

like I don't have a brother, but

7:15

I'm sure if I had one, he would be

7:17

hot. Like maybe he

7:19

would be sexy as shit. I mean, you know what?

7:22

It's like in Utah where I'm from. It's

7:26

really not the topic of a deal.

7:29

That's fine. So it's like I thought

7:31

New York was liberal. Like let's get

7:33

liberal people. Come on now. Yeah. It's

7:36

like Angelina Jolie and her brother type

7:38

five. It's like they used to make

7:40

out. Yeah. And I'm going to dare

7:43

say it. It was kind of hot. No,

7:45

for sure. They're both two very attractive people.

7:48

They are. They definitely are. You

7:50

kind of give me Angelina Jolie vibe. I get

7:52

that a lot. You do. I

7:55

have my hair slicked back, but I have like

7:57

really short bangs. For a moment it was like

7:59

blonde. And everyone was like, when

8:01

I grew up, you look like Angela Najoli

8:03

from Girl Interrupting. And

8:06

like the girls got it, but then guys

8:09

were like, or you look like a crack

8:11

head. Right. Okay. You're like, it's actually the

8:13

crack head means a hottest shit when it

8:15

comes to women. Yeah. And how women look

8:17

at other women. Other women, yeah. Like it

8:20

was definitely to appeal to the girls, not

8:22

the guys. Yes. Love that.

8:24

I'm going to go to dinner with this dude.

8:27

And I want to dress up. Yeah. And

8:30

I was like, I have no

8:32

fucking lingerie. I'm looking through

8:34

my stuff. And I find the Lana

8:37

Rhodes with Yandy, like collab you guys

8:39

did. I was a Valentine's Day one?

8:41

Yes. I'm going

8:44

to be wearing that tonight. I

8:46

mean, I love that because I made it,

8:48

but I was supposed to feel like wearing

8:52

lingerie. Like obviously I have a lingerie line.

8:56

You don't think guys care. I feel like it's too

8:58

geeky. Like kind of like we were talking about like

9:00

the intros. Like I feel like lingerie

9:03

is out. Okay. So

9:05

what the fuck should I do? Because that's

9:07

literally the only present where

9:09

what are you going to wear to dinner? Like

9:12

a little dress. A little dress. Yeah. Just

9:14

like don't wear underwear under it. Like completely

9:16

naked. That's literally like me every time I

9:18

wear a dress. Like I don't wear underwear.

9:20

That's the vibe. I know, but I need

9:22

to do something like X. I could wear

9:24

underwear with a pole or the vagina. I

9:26

wear a butt plug. Oh

9:29

my God. Too dinner. Yeah. They have like Valentine's

9:31

Day ones too. Like go get like a little

9:33

heart one. Okay. But like, is that kind of

9:35

crazy if I'm walking or will it just stay?

9:37

I feel like it would be a little uncomfortable.

9:40

It's not going to fall out unless... No,

9:43

my butthole it will stay in. Okay, everybody. I was

9:45

going to say, I was going to make a little

9:47

joke to me like unless you've done a lot of

9:49

anal, but I don't think that even matters. I

9:52

don't think that necessarily matters,

9:55

but like, no, I

9:57

thought to do some TMI, but I'm not about to

9:59

get a... been to at all. I'm gonna

10:01

spot myself right now, maybe like a hemorrhoid

10:03

issue one time, but did happen

10:05

to me. Yeah, and we can talk about it, but

10:07

now my butthole is fine. It's good. And it wasn't

10:09

from anal. Maybe. I'm trying to, I don't think you

10:12

get, you get them from anal. I know you get

10:14

them from pregnancy. I never got one, but I know

10:16

it's like a thing. Yeah.

10:18

Well, I've never admitted that. And I don't

10:21

know why I'm talking about it right now,

10:23

to be honest. It makes the other girls

10:25

watching who have them feel more comfortable. I

10:28

have to be like, oh, I'm wearing a blazer. I'm

10:30

wearing a blazer. Like girls with

10:32

hemorrhoids don't

10:40

wear blazers except they do. I'm

10:42

normalizing it. Yes. Preparation eight. Preparation

10:44

eight. So

10:59

we met four or five years ago, had some

11:02

random bar. And

11:04

I remember meeting you and

11:07

you were so nice and

11:11

so sweet. Thank you. I think that's

11:13

why I made the intimidating comment. Cause

11:15

I just think Lana Rose, like

11:18

so hot, like, you

11:20

know, has all of his success. And then

11:22

you were very calm and like

11:25

soft spoken and sweet and like a

11:27

girl's girl. Yeah. Yeah. I got this

11:29

comment that other day too. I was

11:32

like, um, this

11:34

basketball team's, um, what's

11:37

it called? Superbowl party. Okay. And

11:39

like all the guys are just

11:41

my friends. And so there are these other two really

11:43

hot girls and I was like, Hey, do

11:46

you like want to meet my friend so-and-so? Cause like, I thought he

11:48

might want to talk to them. And they were like, wait, what's your

11:50

Instagram? And I was like, Oh, or no, they're like, what's your name?

11:53

And I'm like, Lana. And they're like, Oh, wait, are you blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

11:55

I was like, yeah.

11:58

And they were like, wait, why are you so hot? so nice.

12:00

Like why wouldn't I be nice?

12:03

Like what? Yeah, I've actually

12:05

gotten comments like that before too. And it's

12:07

like so weird. Like why would you just

12:09

want to be mean for no reason? I

12:11

feel like you must be a

12:13

miserable person if you're just walking around

12:15

being mean. Yes, but also I'll see

12:18

I never check Reddit but like

12:20

even comments like on pictures or

12:22

on my DMs. Oh my

12:24

god I met you or on Reddit

12:26

like I met her and she was

12:28

actually so nice. Really nice. Yeah, I

12:30

think they've like assumed I'm gonna be

12:34

like, yeah, like, and if you're like a

12:36

you're an attractive woman, especially like I've known

12:38

with me my entire life, I'm like a

12:40

bit quiet like you've mentioned. So people will

12:42

be like, oh, she's not talking to us

12:44

because she thinks she's better than us or

12:47

she's a bitch. It's like that's not the

12:49

case at all. Yeah, I just didn't think

12:51

that you would want to talk to me.

12:53

Really. I don't

12:55

judge a book by its cover. It's that's corny

12:58

as shit. But it's so true. No, it is.

13:00

And I feel like I've been really trying to

13:02

not do that. Yeah, because I kind of I

13:04

think we all do it like our first judgment. Yeah, and

13:07

I definitely think if

13:09

it's people online, you should wait to

13:11

meet them in person regardless of whether

13:13

they're someone that's been canceled, or

13:15

they should have a really bad reputation. Because some

13:18

of the people that I've met have been the

13:20

kindest towards me. And like

13:23

people that I've worked with who have treated me amazing.

13:25

And I just don't get like, the

13:27

vibe from them that's portrayed from them

13:29

online. Also if you're

13:32

like hanging around in a group

13:34

of people, whether it's your friend

13:36

or acquaintance, and they

13:39

tell you they had like a

13:41

really bad interaction with a certain

13:43

person you've never met, you automatically write

13:45

them off as if they're a kind

13:48

of yeah, I feel like

13:50

you can't. It depends on

13:52

like my relationship with whoever is saying

13:54

that. And like exactly what they

13:56

did, like obviously, if it's my best friend, she's

13:58

saying like, Someone sexually harassed

14:00

her or something like that. Then I'm gonna

14:03

be mean. Yes Yes,

14:06

and but yeah, I mean sometimes also like

14:08

with other women like they can be caddy

14:10

I've had friends that like barely know another

14:12

girl and they're like, oh she's a bitch

14:14

or like she's dumb or this and that

14:17

And then I've got to know them and

14:19

it's like complete bullshit. Yeah, they were

14:21

saying about them So for

14:23

everyone listening we are nice

14:25

this shit I

14:27

can't know that Just know

14:30

that I remember that um Okay,

14:33

I have so many things I want to talk to

14:35

you about I was actually listening

14:38

to your interview with Emily Ratajkowski that

14:40

you did Oh, yeah, and you shared

14:42

a lot on there and I

14:45

don't like make you read share

14:47

or you know Repeat

14:49

yourself. Yeah, I think

14:52

I do want to talk about about the

14:56

porn the porn

14:58

the point So

15:02

you did porn for like two months

15:04

of your life It's

15:07

like four months total. We're sorry. Sorry. No,

15:09

it was eight months total, but it was

15:11

in like two four month increments You

15:14

made a comment saying That

15:17

you think it can be harmful

15:20

and then that got like all

15:22

twisted into Lonna

15:25

think sex work is bad or whatever. I

15:27

thought it should be illegal We

15:31

were speaking about like the downsides of

15:33

the industry and Like

15:36

there's things that should be done for the

15:38

girls who still want to work in that

15:40

industry to keep them safer And

15:42

so I had made a comment Perhaps

15:45

that it should be illegal until those

15:47

things are resolved not like necessarily the

15:49

act of doing porn or sex work

15:51

But like predatory agents and managers

15:55

Like the things that make the girls

15:57

unprotected like those things should be illegal

16:00

You know? Yes. Do

16:03

you think it takes a

16:05

certain type of girl

16:07

to be

16:09

able to do porn in a way that is not

16:14

detrimental or does

16:16

not hurt them? I

16:19

think even the girls that, like

16:21

you would say, okay, yeah, like they were

16:23

fit to do porn, they definitely all have

16:25

had some negative experiences, but

16:28

they did not deserve to go through.

16:31

It is just a different kind of job, you know? Like if

16:33

it is your body and one

16:35

of the most intimate things that you

16:37

can do with your body, there really

16:39

needs to be a lot of respect

16:42

and care put into that because it

16:44

can become traumatizing really quickly with

16:47

such a sensitive part of you.

16:49

Yeah. So

16:51

I would say even my friends who have

16:54

no grip with having done porn, they

16:56

still have some negative experiences

16:58

that they should not have went through. But

17:02

for me, one thing that I will

17:05

say that like contributed to me having

17:07

such a short time in it and

17:09

also majority of my experiences being negative

17:11

was the part that I am just

17:14

not a very sexual person. And

17:16

so it is extremely like not

17:20

your personality at all. Not

17:22

my personalities. So like if

17:25

I am not doing it in real life, why

17:28

should I think that I should

17:30

be paid to do it, I guess? Yeah.

17:33

And like force myself to do things that I would not usually

17:35

do. Right. Is what I am trying to say. Yeah.

17:37

But you are younger. I feel like you are

17:39

probably 19. Yeah, I

17:42

was 19. So as you have gotten

17:44

older, you know more

17:46

and more about who you are and the

17:49

things you are, right? Yeah. I am

17:51

just accepting myself more for who I

17:53

am. I mean, still

17:55

not completely. I personally don't like how

17:57

reserved I am sexually. my

18:00

friends, like can hook up

18:02

with guys and like have more fun in

18:04

that regard. And I have tried

18:07

to like one time, and just like even a

18:10

few months ago, one of my girlfriends and this

18:12

guy that I'd like kiss and stuff, like, yeah,

18:14

let's have a three way. Like we go

18:16

to do it. The fact that you just went

18:18

like this with your show as how not sexual

18:21

I am. And I ran away,

18:24

like they started doing it and I literally

18:26

ran away and gotten over. I

18:28

ran out of the room, like the

18:31

house, the house, the house. That's how bad

18:33

it is. And it's not that

18:35

I want to be like that. It's not

18:37

like, and like some people be like, oh,

18:39

she's just trying to make it seem like

18:41

she like changed. Like, I was always like

18:43

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18:45

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How do you define a

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sexual person? Someone who

20:21

likes sex? Yeah, like, so

20:24

like, for example, literally all my

20:26

friends, which by the way,

20:28

none of these girls are sex workers

20:30

or anything. Like, they'd probably

20:32

like hook up with a guy

20:34

like maybe once or twice

20:37

a month. Like casual. Like

20:39

casually, yeah. And

20:42

I haven't hooked up with anyone for like almost

20:44

a year now. A year? Yeah.

20:47

Okay, so that? And it's not like a choice.

20:49

It's that I don't think

20:51

that I can do it. Even like again,

20:53

just a few days ago, the same guy

20:55

that the situation happened with. He

20:58

ran out of the house. Yeah, like

21:00

he's my friend. Like we've like me

21:02

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21:05

two girlfriends, one of them, that was part of the three

21:07

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21:15

look, because he's also friends with the last guy

21:17

that I slept with. I was like, I

21:20

don't want this guy to be my last body. Like

21:22

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21:24

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hands. Can you please just do it? Can you do

21:29

it? He was like, I

21:31

literally just lost my boner.

21:34

No, like he still was down. Wait

21:37

a second. I will never lose her boner. But

21:41

keep in mind, like we are, I'm

21:43

drunk as shit and like I did

21:45

some K like realistically, all your inhibitions

21:47

should be gone at that point and

21:49

you should be able to have sex.

21:52

But I still couldn't. Okay, but I

21:54

feel like the K would make me

21:56

every time I do it.

21:58

I melt. Like I literally have

22:00

to like sit like this. I didn't do that much.

22:02

So the first time I did it, I went into a

22:05

K-hole, but the Senate wasn't bad.

22:07

Okay, so you're feeling good. Yeah, like

22:10

I was feeling good. Like we were

22:12

watching, just like joking around, like it

22:14

was a good experience. So did you

22:16

end up having sex? No. We

22:19

all just fall asleep on the same bed

22:22

after watching like anime. So the

22:25

sexual thing you

22:27

are still working on. Yes. I

22:30

think like maybe, I know

22:33

I have like low dopamine and

22:35

like other things wrong

22:37

with me. So I didn't know like chemically with

22:39

my brain. If it has to

22:41

do with that, I kind of wanted to

22:43

ask my doctor for an oxytocin like

22:48

nasal spray. So basically, yeah. So it

22:50

helps people with like BPD, which I

22:52

do have, and I'm gonna get an

22:55

autism assessment soon. So

22:57

it might be like due to those two

23:00

things. I don't know if

23:02

it's a low sex. So I also have

23:04

trouble like just forming like, I

23:07

don't like people often. I

23:11

have liked one person in the past like

23:13

four years. And like,

23:15

I also want to be able to like romantically

23:17

like people. So it's not just a sexual thing.

23:20

It's like low romantic interest,

23:22

low sexual interest. It might be

23:24

like an oxytocin and

23:26

not having enough of that chemical. So basically

23:29

it's like a bonding hormone, which you discrete

23:31

like after you have a baby or when

23:33

you're in love. And I

23:36

just think that I don't produce enough of

23:38

that. So I'm interested to see if I

23:40

got this nasal spray, if

23:42

I could just like snort some up

23:44

my nose and then like socialize. And

23:47

if I would be able to experience

23:49

those types of feelings and emotions more

23:51

frequently. Yeah, that's fascinating. But there's a

23:53

spray. I knew there

23:55

was a caddening spray. Oh yeah, yeah.

23:57

I did another with an oxytocin one.

24:00

Yeah, it's an oxytocin spray and it's supposed

24:02

to be really good for people with autism.

24:05

I feel like my

24:08

sexual drive and why

24:12

I'm like wondering why maybe I'm

24:14

not as sexual as I thought

24:16

I was is different than yours. But

24:22

me romantically bonding with

24:24

someone, I've talked

24:26

about this openly. I've never been in

24:28

love. Oh really? Never.

24:31

Never once. I think for

24:33

me it's because of

24:36

past trauma. Yeah. You

24:38

know? But like how do you know that

24:40

you've never been in love? That's

24:44

a great question. Like

24:47

I'm genuinely curious. I'm genuinely

24:49

curious too because I don't

24:51

really know if I've never been in it then

24:53

maybe I don't know but I've never

24:57

let my walls down enough to

24:59

be fully committed

25:02

to someone. Yeah. 100%

25:05

in and let them be

25:07

100% in. I

25:10

feel like love helps to have

25:12

some of that. Or

25:15

you don't think so? My

25:17

perception on it has definitely changed as I've

25:19

gotten older. Like it would take a lot

25:21

for me now to let someone in in

25:23

that way. And just because

25:25

I've become more particular as I've gotten older.

25:28

But have you ever like so

25:30

obviously there's like different forms of love so

25:32

there's like there's

25:36

like the like infatuation.

25:38

Have you experienced that? Yes.

25:41

So you've experienced infatuation. And

25:44

so you're speaking of like love in the

25:46

deeper sense like a genuine like care and

25:49

love. Yes. For

25:51

someone like putting them above your own

25:53

knees? Exactly. I

25:56

always have one foot

25:58

in and one foot out. Like

26:00

I always kind of have this

26:02

escape plan whether I consciously recognize

26:05

it or not Yeah,

26:07

that's interesting using that means I've never been

26:10

in love then I'm I'm

26:13

trying to think I think there's only like one

26:15

person that like I've protected out of

26:17

love and also Have

26:21

never like tried to hurt when they've

26:23

upset me maybe maybe like one person

26:25

did you put their needs? Above

26:29

my name you do it. Yeah in

26:31

a healthy way No,

26:38

because I definitely should have it's not like

26:40

they were doing that for me so it's

26:43

not like they deserved it I don't know if it's

26:45

that they didn't deserve it, but it wasn't like an

26:47

equal give and take of like caring

26:50

or Protecting each

26:52

other right? I just

26:54

think you know people say Like

26:58

when I asked people how did you know he was the

27:00

one when people got married? Yeah,

27:02

and they're like you just know They're

27:05

probably I don't think anyone's the one bullshit.

27:07

I don't think anyone's the one I Totally

27:11

agree soulmates are not a thing. Yeah. Sorry. I

27:13

know it's Valentine's Day, but like it's just We're

27:16

screwed. Yes, I'm yeah,

27:19

I think like I used to really enjoy

27:21

soulmates astrology and all of that But honestly

27:23

just think it's like something to

27:25

pray on mentally I

27:29

just think you can fall in love again

27:31

and again and again if you're not me

27:33

or Lana Yeah, yeah other

27:35

people I do it just takes me longer

27:37

Yeah but I am starting to realize because

27:39

I will get really obsessed with the one

27:41

person that I like randomly

27:43

will fall in love with and I'm

27:46

starting to realize like it's okay like You're

27:49

gonna like meet someone again and think go

27:51

through the whole thing again like thinking that

27:53

they're your soulmate and that No,

27:56

yeah and like you just really okay, I felt

27:58

this way before so it's your really

28:00

not that important, like just move,

28:02

move the fuck on. Yeah. I

28:05

think part of the reason I don't fully

28:07

fall in love is obviously I'm like scared

28:10

of getting her entrusted shoes and like the

28:12

whole thing. Yeah. But I was

28:15

not even planning on talking about love and

28:17

here we are. It is Valentine's Day. It

28:19

is Valentine's Day. Um, okay.

28:22

How old is your baby? He

28:25

just turned two last month. That is so

28:27

cute. Yeah. And

28:30

is he here with you? Yeah, he is. Not

28:32

in the studio. Well, I wish he was. Well,

28:34

we wouldn't be able to get anything done. You

28:37

dream the baby in the iPad like you fucked

28:39

up. Yeah. Um,

28:42

and you have

28:44

not been public with the

28:46

baby daddy. No.

28:48

And that's on purpose. Yeah. Do you

28:51

ever plan to be? No. No.

28:53

No. Is the

28:56

dad in the baby's life? Um,

28:59

not really. Not really. No. Okay. At this

29:01

point. I asked that

29:03

because I have been kind

29:06

of coming to these

29:09

like, I had certain

29:11

views and ever since I turned

29:13

30, 31. Yeah. I

29:16

am now kind of seeing

29:18

things very differently and

29:20

I grew up with a single mom.

29:23

Same. Yeah. So it doesn't really

29:25

seem strange to me at all.

29:27

Right. At all. It's like the only way

29:30

that you can imagine it really. Yeah. So

29:32

I've always been like, I'm going to

29:35

freeze my eggs. If

29:37

I have to get a sperm donor, which

29:39

my biological dad essentially was, is

29:42

then that's the way

29:45

I want to do it. And

29:47

now I'm like thinking about it. And

29:50

you mentioned this in the interview with

29:52

Emily. You said like you were in

29:54

the airport having to like take the

29:56

stroller and carry all the bags and

29:58

stuff. Yeah. I, you

30:01

can correct me if I'm wrong, were you

30:03

insinuating like you have moments where you're like,

30:05

it would be nice. Yeah, I definitely have

30:08

moments from like, oh fuck, like I'm struggling.

30:10

Like my neighbor, so I have an apartment

30:12

here in New York. My

30:14

neighbor is across the hall, a six month

30:16

old baby and they're a couple. And

30:19

it's like, yeah, it probably would be a

30:21

lot easier. Like if I need

30:23

help, I have to schedule certain hours

30:25

with my nanny to help me. Like

30:28

she has a life too, like she's not gonna

30:30

be available or like caring things. Like I'm not

30:32

as strong as a man. Like I can't do all

30:34

that. Like there's definitely times that I struggle. And

30:37

I think about like my child's father and I'm

30:39

like, you fucking asshole. Like if you're not gonna

30:41

help me carry these bags right now, you should

30:43

be paying someone to help me carry them. Yeah,

30:46

absolutely. We can talk about the

30:48

off air. I mean, but you

30:51

also make your own money. Yeah,

30:53

I make my own money. And for

30:56

me, a lot of people will make

30:58

comments like, oh, like, why don't you go

31:01

after him for child support or whatever? But

31:04

for me, it's like all about protecting my

31:06

child. If the dad's not interested

31:08

in seeing your child, hasn't really shown to have

31:10

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31:14

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31:16

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31:18

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31:20

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31:22

he's not on. And my child

31:24

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31:27

without me. And I wouldn't be able

31:29

to protect my child. And I don't know if this

31:31

man is safe for my child to be around. So

31:34

I don't take child support because

31:36

I want to protect my child

31:40

from this person that I barely know. Like I'm not

31:42

saying that he would do something, but

31:44

like you don't fucking know that. And he hasn't

31:46

had the best attitude towards it. So that's why

31:48

I don't, cause I care more about my child than getting like

31:50

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Yeah, yeah. If I want child support, then I

36:08

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36:11

I could fight him for it, but there's not...

36:13

No. There's not, like, a guarantee

36:15

that I would win. And also, I don't

36:17

want his name on the birth certificate. I

36:20

mean, I mean, I think it would

36:22

be cute. Cute. I

36:24

mean, his... Like, yeah, I feel like he should have

36:26

both of his parents' names on it. Okay. But

36:30

until, like, his dad would want...

36:33

Like, be really positive about wanting to

36:35

be involved, then I'm not

36:37

gonna push anything. Yeah. Did

36:40

you... Like, if he wants to help, then he

36:42

can. But if he doesn't want to, then he

36:44

can keep his money. Yeah. And

36:46

he hasn't reached out to be like, can I help? We

36:49

actually spoke the other day. Mm-hmm. I mean,

36:51

I don't know where it's gonna go. I

36:53

actually ran into him a few months ago

36:55

for the first time in a few years.

36:58

That's kind of crazy. Yeah, it was

37:01

definitely strange. Yeah. And

37:04

it was weird, because it was like, I have a

37:07

kid with this person, but it honestly felt like looking

37:09

at a stranger, which I think is so weird. Yeah.

37:14

I... When I met my

37:16

biological dad, because I have met him...

37:18

Yeah. It was like, he's

37:20

a stranger, and I had no idea

37:22

how I was supposed to act. How

37:24

you're supposed to feel or act. Yeah.

37:27

It was very bizarre. Yeah. And

37:29

I also hate when I feel like I don't feel the way that

37:31

I'm supposed to feel in certain situations.

37:33

Like with the sex thing or the love

37:35

thing, or running it into someone that I'm

37:37

supposed to have all these emotions towards, because

37:39

we have a child, but it feels like

37:41

nothing. Yeah. And you don't like that. Yeah,

37:43

I don't like it. I want to feel

37:45

how I think I'm supposed to feel. But

37:48

you're not supposed to feel it anyway.

37:51

That's the therapist who has

37:53

no license. Yeah.

37:56

Like, no therapy license saying that, but I think I do

37:58

that to myself a lot. where

38:01

I'm like, I should be feeling a certain

38:03

way about this. And

38:05

then I'll feel even worse because I'm not. Yeah.

38:08

And it's like, you, your feelings are

38:10

your feelings, you know? Yeah, or lack

38:12

thereof. Or lack thereof. That's

38:15

what I'm trying to like accept about

38:17

myself lately too. Is the

38:19

lack of... In certain situations where

38:21

I think I should be feeling something. Sometimes I

38:23

feel a lot and then other times it's just

38:25

not what I think. Like

38:28

I've had boyfriends in

38:30

the past few years and I had

38:33

to break up with them because I

38:35

felt like I didn't feel the way that I was supposed to

38:37

feel. And that made me feel really bad. Because it's not like

38:39

I don't want to have love. It just...

38:42

It hasn't happened for you. Yeah,

38:46

lately. Or I just don't... Like

38:49

I was saying, I just don't like people often the way

38:51

I'm supposed to like them. And

38:53

I'm just thinking about how you said, I

38:57

will be in relationships and

38:59

have to break up

39:01

with them because you don't have those feelings.

39:03

Yeah, and I stopped getting in relationships because

39:05

of it. Yeah, but you shouldn't feel bad

39:07

about breaking up with them. I cheat. Like

39:11

I've cheated in almost every relationship.

39:15

I've never cheated in my life, but it's

39:17

probably also because I don't

39:19

have sex anyway. But it

39:22

wasn't even like a sexual thing. It

39:25

was a, this is my way of breaking up

39:27

with you, but I'm too much of a pussy.

39:30

Trying to get them to fuck off of it.

39:33

But I'm too much of a pussy to do

39:35

it. Yeah, I thought about doing that. Just because

39:37

I can't break up with people either. I

39:40

would, I mean if you can't do

39:42

the breakup thing, that's what I would

39:44

stick with. Yeah, I usually will

39:46

just like... I

39:49

think just ignore it. Just

39:51

ignore it. Like the threesome, just like run out

39:54

of the house never to be seen again. Yeah,

39:56

one time with my ex, he like really pitched

39:58

me off on a vacation. And so

40:00

I was like, okay, I'm gonna drop you off like after

40:02

we got off the plane. Let me just block him Wait,

40:08

so you landed at the airport Well,

40:10

it was it was with Mike and it was

40:13

like his birthday trip Actually, it was just

40:15

even more fucked up We went to ask

40:17

them and we had a private plane and

40:19

I drove him home after Like

40:21

but because I didn't feel like arguing with him. Did you

40:23

tell him like I'm out for real

40:25

or were you just like bye I know we

40:28

had argued the whole trip. So like I Didn't

40:31

want to argue anymore. So I just blocked him

40:33

after I left. I don't think I talked to

40:35

him for a few weeks Yeah, I

40:37

don't think need for that Not

40:39

because it's like but like you needed your

40:41

space Maybe could have

40:43

been more communicative Yeah I mean

40:46

and sometimes like there's nothing else left to say

40:48

like you tell someone so many times what they

40:50

need to do And if

40:52

they keep sucking up like what more is

40:54

there to say and you just need time

40:58

Yeah, or just to never talk to me. Yeah Totally

41:01

agree. Absolutely. I

41:03

feel like You've obviously

41:05

and you talked about this again on

41:07

that interview That

41:10

you have struggled with binge

41:12

eating, right? Yeah, not anymore. Not

41:14

anymore Shout

41:16

out to well be a trend shout out well be

41:19

Shout out for pran and all on

41:21

my head shout out. We messed like

41:24

I go down to I'm

41:26

I really though kind of want to like slowly

41:29

get off something Yeah,

41:32

I just quit my role be true and hasn't come back

41:35

It's because I started taking gabapentin,

41:38

which I guess is a mood stabilizer But I

41:40

have originally just started it for insomnia And

41:43

it's like taking me to a level where I was

41:45

able to quit protect and well be turned Wow Yeah,

41:48

okay. That's amazing Can

41:51

I get Because I literally have

41:53

the worst insomnia in my life. Um, I

41:56

mean my doctor gave it to me pretty easily. So

41:58

she won asking like you

42:01

can like deal it to me no

42:03

but obviously you got comments

42:05

about your body all the

42:07

time recently

42:09

saying you're skinny yeah

42:12

straight up can you say well I'm skinny

42:14

I look like a crackhead I blow coke

42:16

and I'm doing meth and

42:18

I'm bloated they can't do those

42:20

comments get to you I don't

42:22

really like the

42:29

drug comments just because I don't really do

42:31

drugs all that often like I know I

42:33

said I took ketamine a few days ago

42:35

but this is maybe like once

42:37

a month yeah so it's

42:39

not like doing drugs consistently enough for

42:42

it to change my appearance and there's

42:44

a difference yeah there's a party like

42:46

every once in a while when I'm

42:49

partying like it's fashion week like yeah

42:51

I'm gonna do something if I feel like

42:54

it yes it's a necessity but if I

42:56

feel like it yes I only drink like

42:58

twice a month too so I'm like what

43:00

the fuck you guys talking about right so

43:02

the drug comments annoy you yeah it's annoying

43:05

because when I don't feel like I look

43:07

like a crackhead like I have nice skin

43:10

I'm like so what they're talking

43:12

about is like I have you're not really

43:14

wearing makeup yeah like I have a

43:17

crackhead if you don't wear makeup maybe I so

43:19

this is what it is I have really skinny

43:21

arms and really bony like this

43:23

but it always is like that even

43:25

when I'm bigger like I'm just more

43:27

bottom-heavy and

43:29

so now that I have like I'm skinnier

43:32

than I was before it's extremely prominent but

43:35

I'm not like the rest of my

43:38

body doesn't look as skinny as the

43:40

top this looks anorexic like you're like

43:42

the opposite of me yeah it's like

43:44

bony but it's the rest isn't like

43:46

that you're a pair yeah

43:49

maybe I'm a pair yeah

43:53

those comments sometimes will

43:56

get to me actually you know

43:58

it's really fucked up but you look

44:00

too skinny, she looks sick, comments

44:02

don't, but then I

44:04

put on some weight and got

44:07

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44:10

and those kind of like annoyed me a

44:12

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44:14

thing is, no matter which way

44:16

it is, they're gonna say something because after having

44:18

my baby, it was, she looks like the pills

44:20

very doughboy now. And then like

44:23

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44:25

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46:10

Guys something just occurred to me before

46:12

I brought this up and has

46:16

to do with sex work, which we

46:18

talked about 55

46:20

minutes ago The reason I

46:22

brought that up how to

46:24

do with me having

46:27

different opinions than I used to

46:29

have in the past and

46:31

I used to be pro sex

46:34

work no matter what yeah,

46:36

I can go for it feminism and

46:40

now I Just

46:42

want to be a little bit more careful

46:44

about how I talk about it. Mm-hmm

46:46

because it is such a Sensitive

46:51

Serious thing, you know Cuz

46:54

like young girls who may be like me

46:57

And they didn't really realize what all it

46:59

entails. Yeah into it. They're like, yeah feminism

47:02

Like I can do whatever the fuck I

47:04

want with my body I'm gonna be like

47:06

the girls next door and playboy and jump

47:08

on chomplings and have pool parties Like

47:11

they don't see the part of that

47:13

You don't have sex as a nine-year-old

47:15

man And so I feel like yeah,

47:18

it should be a more careful conversation

47:20

and not glamorize Yes, which I

47:22

like I had been up until this

47:24

point I swear to God glamorizing the

47:26

fuck out of it and normalizing Like

47:29

just do it and I just want to be

47:31

a little bit more careful and I think that

47:33

was worth me Saying

47:37

oh, yeah, totally cuz especially if like

47:39

I feel like a lot of your fans

47:41

are younger girls Consume that

47:44

content from you before Like

47:46

it's good for them to hear that

47:49

totally totally you never know what like

47:51

who's considering going into that Let me

47:53

hear me saying like fucking

47:55

do it like

47:57

what's taking you this long Like

48:00

I don't, that's not the

48:02

message I'm trying to put out there. But

48:06

Lana, I am so appreciative and I've

48:09

been wanting to do this interview forever

48:11

and thank you. No,

48:13

thank you. And it was nice to see you

48:15

again. Yeah, for more than like five minutes. I

48:17

love it. Do you have anything

48:19

you want to plug? I

48:22

am working on my own clothing line.

48:25

I have a few modeling campaigns coming

48:27

out this year. You're a

48:29

full time model. I guess

48:31

since 2024, like since the new year,

48:33

we've booked like four like pretty good

48:35

campaigns just like out of nowhere. I

48:38

was like, okay. I just saw the

48:40

G01. The G01, which was the last

48:42

minute. Then I booked another one that

48:44

I'm really excited about. Then I've had

48:46

another book. Then I did another one

48:48

a few weeks ago that hasn't come

48:50

out yet. Okay. And it

48:52

all happened like after the first of the year. Like

48:54

I wasn't expecting it. Did you manifest it? You

48:57

know, a year ago when I did my first show for

48:59

Alexander Wang, I was like, okay, I want to model now,

49:02

like get all this. And I was like, oh, well, nothing's

49:04

happening. And then all of a

49:06

sudden recently it started happening, which is so

49:08

crazy because I've talked about this before, but

49:10

everything I've ever like written in my journal

49:12

that I wanted or like tried to manifest,

49:14

it's always come like exactly year after I've

49:16

written it down. It's weird.

49:19

I'm writing in my juicy notebook right off

49:21

the bat. You need a manifestation journal. I

49:23

do. I would say to God, if I showed you

49:25

my journal, even down to having like,

49:29

I don't want to say that. You

49:31

can tell me that one later. My

49:33

kid, like down to that, like

49:36

that's, you didn't want to say

49:38

that. I think I know. Beautiful. So it wasn't

49:40

necessarily like I was, okay. I was obsessed

49:42

with the person that I have a kid with and

49:45

it wasn't like, oh, I want to have a kid with

49:47

him, but it was like, I want

49:49

him forever. Yeah. Technically I

49:51

have him forever. Oh, you do.

49:54

Also, that can be your subconscious.

49:57

I heard that when you were. super

50:00

into someone your subconscious craves

50:03

their sperm. Really? Yeah, so maybe

50:05

that's what happened. He's gonna see

50:07

this and be like, oh my

50:09

god. I

50:12

doubt, I doubt he'll be seeing it. So

50:14

be with an F. Hopefully not. I'll be

50:16

like, why are you stalking me anyway? Yeah,

50:18

you're watching my interviews. You're obsessed with me

50:20

now. You always flip it

50:23

around on them. Okay, Lana, thank you

50:25

so much, Sloot. I will talk to

50:27

you next week. Bye. Bye, third Sloot.

50:30

Sloot. Sloot. It's my version

50:32

of Slut.