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How's it going, Softie? It's going well, man. This is actually

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we got to make an adjustment to your segment with us next week, because

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one week from today we will be knee deep with Hugh Millan in our annual

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mother Millon mock Draft. You're a big fan of the mock draft, Yes,

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a huge part of being a sports type commentator, expert, slash analyst.

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What's the actual draft is? Win Thursday, Thursday, a week from

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tomorrow, correct, a week from uh and then the Millan Man March is

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wind Wednesday. I just think we found a new name for the mock,

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the Millan Man March. That is a week from to day. We're going

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to be at Action Sports Bar and Kent formerly Carriage Square, and you guys

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and people are interested in this or oh yeah, let me ask has it

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lost some steam over the years? No, this is twenty twenty six years

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we've been doing this. Wow, Well, I wish you luck in your endeavors as always, and uh, I think you're a great guy. And

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you have you been doing anything for twenty six years consistently in your radio career?

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No, I haven't been on that. Yeah, well there you go.

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Suck on that. Then I went, what year is it? It's

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twenty twenty four. Start rating to give me a couple more years. All

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right, I'm sorry you've been doing a mock draft for twenty six years with

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Hugh Millan. My bad. Be jealous of my mock draft. When milling

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Man March, I love that's a that's a Rob Parker thing for when they

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tried to get rid of Matt Millan when he was a GM of the Lions.

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They have a milling Man March. Well, I'm stealing it because I

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think it's funny as hell. Well too, I think it's great. And in eight days from now, we're going to see if my man, Michael

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Pennix is going to be a first round draft pick or not. There's a

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lot of conversation about him versus bow Knicks. Can Michael Pennick survive in the

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NFL with his injury history, which drives me freaking you know what, because

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the guy started twenty eight games in a row at Washington. Yet there's still

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people out there that question if he can survive in the NFL. What say

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you? Well, and he's not a running quarterback. I mean, he's

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a pocket passer. You know, he's not a guy that you expect to

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take off on third down and you're worried about him and the pros. You'd

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say that about Caleb Williams, you'd say that about Jayden Daniels, but you

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wouldn't say it about about him. I mean, look, a couple acls

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is bad, you know, I mean any but he has one ACL.

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It's one thing, and if you have one, it's likely you might end

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up with two the other one and might end up going And a lot of

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guys have them repaired and then they end up flourishing and having a great career.

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So I'm rooting for the guy. But there's going to be conversation about

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everybody, you know, That's what the draft is all about. It's not

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about what you do well. I mean, everybody knows you're good. That's

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why you're going to be drafted at all. It's got nothing to do with

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that, it's more about what's wrong with you, you know, what could be wrong with you. And if people had the quarterback thing figured out,

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it would be a lot easier. We have so many busts and football is

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so situational. I guess that's the one thing that kind of bugs me the

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most about it. Not to get up on a high horse, but people

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just don't understand or appreciate the circumstance of football. And not to point fingers

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and blame somebody for something that goes wrong in your career. But where you

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get picked, who you are playing with and four makes all the difference,

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you know, I mean, it's like eighty percent of it. In a

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lot of these cases. All of these guys are great players, and some

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people end up having a washout career when they could have had a more middling

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career, or maybe a middling career when they could have had a superstar style

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career, maybe just a star style. But it is it is kind of

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confounding the way people talk like, well, that guy sucks. It's like

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you know what, No, you suck. Let's be honest, you suck.

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I hate that part of the draft. Will can I talk to you

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about something, and I find it relatively interesting. I was kind of talking

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about earlier today and then somebody else asked me about it off the air,

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and I was thinking about it more because you did a bunch of spring ball

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stuff this year, and it was a little bit more interesting because of the

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new coach, new quarterback, new regime, Belichick walking around out there looking

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all angry because he didn't get any jobs, like you had all that going

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on, and it was a story, right, ye, right, But

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I mean I used to go in the old days of the Pac ten and

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early Pac twelve, I used to go to all the spring ball camps.

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I would travel around and visit the various teams and go to the spring game

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and talk about it and watch the spring games on TV and try to get

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a handle on what was going on and Tucson and all this stuff. I

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mean, I remember going to a spring game in Tucson and getting rained out

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by a monsoon and having an elite you know, just endless kind of research.

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And it's not worth it anymore. There's still anymore. No, it's

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not that there's just very little to learn, like after a little while,

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and I don't know if it's a transfer portal, and when people started playing

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young players a lot more. But a team changes so dramatically from May to

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August that it's almost not even worth looking at. And nobody plays anybody in

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the spring because they're so worried about getting people hurt. The transfer portal has

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changed. I mean, what are you even doing in the spring filling a

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spot? So what Like, it's really different than it used to be.

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I'm not lamenting it or saying one thing or the other. It's just interesting

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that these teams. We wonder why the sport has, you know, such

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weird incongruities. We're not even forming the teams until like the beginning of the

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summer, right and sometimes later than that, And the sport has changed so

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dramatically in that regard. Spring football used to be a bloodbath when I played.

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I mean, you get a coach fired and a new coach would come

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in and people would be at each other's throats trying to show out for the

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new coaches. And now physically you're not even really allowed to do that.

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Even if there is a new coach, and the new coach is scared to

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get anybody hurt in the first place, Plus he's waiting for the transfer portal

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to open, which is happening while you're trying to compete for a job in

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your spring practice. Is it? It is? It is a very weird

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model and probably should be adjusted as well. Well, I'll tell you what

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the uh your your pals on the old NCAA Division One council. Whenever I

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think of that, I think of the Lord of the Ring is all sitting around, right, just kind of making up rules and stuff. Battlestar Galactica,

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that's right. The Division one Council said today that there's a new transfer

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rule. They can allow all undergrad athletes to transfer and play immediately if they

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meet specific academic requirements. So remember back in the day you had to set

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out a year and two years if you're transferring like inside the Pac twelve.

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Those days are over. That was me. I mean, there's just like

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immediate free every year every college football player's one year contract expires and he's a

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free agent every year. Yeah. Yeah, And you know we're gonna end

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up really celebrating the guys that stay, no question, Like those are going

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to be the stories we really start to cling to, because yep, everybody

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else is sort of like a mercenary or becomes that way. And you know,

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when you're young, especially in the way society is these days, I'm

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really getting after people with my societal critique. But everybody wants immediate satisfaction,

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and football really isn't that way. It really is a developmental sport at most

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levels for most people, even at the college level, even at high college

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levels, you still have to develop and learn to play at that level and

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learn to play a man's game, so to speak. And the fact that

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guys can get a little frustrated the strength coach yells at you and you transfer

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because you have a bunch of people around you that are telling you stuff that

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is probably gonna end up ruining your ruining your career. There will be a

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medium that we find, but when and how we find it, I'm anxious

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to know. Well, I just think you're exactly right. The guys that

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stay will be the ones that are celebrated, whether they deserve it or not.

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I mean Carson Brunner, you know, Carson is Mark Bruner so last

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week and said the hell with the money. You know, I want to be a dog. And you know somebody could you know argue that, well,

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he wasn't offered big money by anyone to transfer doesn't matter. In my

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opinion, I don't care what he was offered, what he wasn't offered the

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fact that he's here and other guys aren't I put him in a totally different

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conversation than I do with Meche Powell and meichh pals from here and had a

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big pick six to win the Arizona State game. Without mesch Pale, the

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Huskies probably don't make the Final four and play for a national championship. Yet

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he took off and went to Miami, And I have way more regard for

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Carson Bruner because the guy stayed Yeah. And I mean, need you blaming

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Powell for doing whatever you're trying to do in this moment to get whatever you

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can for a sport that you can't play forever. I mean, I don't

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necessarily blame him. Your coach Leaves and all these other coaches that you know

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and people that you're connected to are asking you to come play and washing your

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balls and telling you you're great and you're a young person, and the attractive

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nature of being in Miami. You know, you think you're gonna get laid.

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I don't know. That's what I would have thought. I would have

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think you'd get late here, though. I get it, and we have

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the wimp. We have girls. You know, it's not like I know,

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but they're wearing tevas ha burking Stocks. Look around you. I bet

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there's a bunch of tevas there. It had this conversation many, many,

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many times. Hey, I got to ask if Petros Papadaka is with us. By the way, Curtis, you sweet James dot Com, Uh,

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I thought about you when O. J. Simpson passed away. Yeah.

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We got John Wilner's thoughts on this yesterday on the radio show. And I

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know that you and your family have a kind of a specific connection to OJ

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and the and the OJ Simpson family. Tell that story if you can,

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and what your thought was when you heard he passed away. I didn't really

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I mean I saw it on my phone and I just kind of shrugged my

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shoulders, and I didn't really think about how big of a story it would

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be. And then I did like seven hours of radio straight and I was

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like, oh, I guess it's a pretty big story. Didn you say

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that your dad was ready to hide OJ and the restaurant refrigerator walking in.

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Yeah, yeah, we were tell that story again. I have to,

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I mean, go ahead. It was a long time ago. Well,

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Oj Simpson played football with my father, and there was a connection with Oj,

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the Kardashians, Al Collings, a lot of those USC football players,

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Tody Smith, Bubba Smith's brother, a lot of people through the taverna my

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father's restaurant. And because of that, we kind of were embedded with those

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people for many years, serving them at the restaurant and seeing them at USC

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events and stuff like that. And so when the murders happened, most of

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his ex teammates, like we would if one of my teammates and it has

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happened, has been accused of murder, we all try to rally around the

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guy and say he's innocent until you know, you figure that he's not.

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And that happened with Oj and his ex teammates. And there was an allegation

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that Oj was looking in San Pedro through connected people, so to speak,

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for an uncharted boat to get him out of the country. There are such

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things boats that go beyond the federal reach down in the harbor, which is

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the biggest and busiest harbor of the world. Uh, the Long Beach,

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San Pedro, La Harbor, and apparently when he went, I mean I

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was there. It was five o'clock Friday night, slow speed chase. Apparently

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when when OJ got on the one oh five, we figured he was going

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to get on the one ten South and we started to clear the walk in

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freezer. I suppose to hide him. Uh, it didn't work out that

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way, but we ended up serving you know, Lancedo for years. The

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guy that said OJ is a fugitive from justice, the guy in the the

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cop outfit, David Gascon. He longtime restaurant customer and his son worked at

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the restaurant for many years. Uh. Marcia Clark used to eat there all

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the time. I mean I served him. I served OJ, and Nicole,

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I served OJ. Paula Barbieri. They came down and talked to us

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because they were all there months before. Did you did you ever notice anything

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in the bathroom? A lot if you know what I'm saying, Oh, okay together or just the self I got you. Yeah, come back with

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a little dust. I mean OJ's doing coke and your dad's restaurant bathroom.

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Man, that's a pretty cool story. A lot better people that did cocin

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there. That didn't kill anybody? Who else? Who else did coke in your dad's bathroom? Tony Montana, what's the matter with you? Baseball?

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Al Paccino did coke? Probably, But you know I did serve. I

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didn't know this, but I served George Harrison. Wow, somebody reminded me

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of that. My father reminded me of that the other day. Yeah,

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Reagan, people like that. You think he did it, You think OJ

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did it. I don't know, Dave. You know, I don't know

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what they argue about in football locker rooms today. But back in the day,

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we had a lot of guys that figured OJ was innocent. And it

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is kind of weird, you know, because guys I played with a lot

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of those guys played in that Orange Bowl against Iowa two when OJ showed up,

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and that's the Carson Palmer game, right, I met Carson and all that, and uh, they all took photos with him, and all those

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photos were circulating in our USC kind of text change, you know, lrip

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juice. You know, it's like, yeah, I get it. You

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turned two people into pets dispensers. To me, you know, you should

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lay pretty low. But OJ did the opposite. Hey, how fired up

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are you for the Laker? Well, I'm looking forward to another another competitive

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sweep. Oh, come on, they might give the Nuggets a little bit

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of a rung. Last year it was the most competitive. Last year it

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was the most competitive sweep in playoff history, and this year it could be

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another very competitive sweep. You got that going. It's a sweep. But

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Pete, I don't know if anybody in any city in America that does a

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radio show hates a team more than you hate the Lakers. To be totally

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honest with you, I know a lot of guys that do shows around the

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country and they kind of have a little bit disdain. And maybe I liked

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him better when Lebron wasn't there. Oh, I know that. Why is

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that? Though? Tell people why? I don't know. I just feel

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like he's like a weird entity, leasing one of the biggest names in sport

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and pushing around their week ownership just to do whatever he wants with at his

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own whim at the end of his career. Is he gonna get Broni to

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come with him and play there? You think it would be an unbelievable,

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meglom maniacal move that I wouldn't put past him. How would you sell it?

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I mean, I'll say whatever I say, but they'll sell it.

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They'll sell it through their proxies. Guys, all these guys that are like

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tweeting out like oh, he's actually an elite defenditor. It's like, dude,

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guys, please, what are we doing? If his name was Billy

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Simpson, nobody would have a clue who he is or give a damn about

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his aspects. No, he'd be at you see, Irvine, learning to

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play basketball like he should be. And what are you doing on May the

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third? You got plans? May third? Yeah? I gotta work Beach Life, the Beach Life Festival, the Sands, every Dondo beach. You

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know, I've worked the Beach Life Festival for years. But what do you

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do there? Like? I host the stream here? Okay, gotcha?

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Yeah? I set on a lifeguard chair and I say, coming up here.

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He is sting. Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, well that's

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the night of the Husky Spring game. I was gonna have you come up.

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Well, yeah, no, I'm not gonna make it. You're not

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gonna be here. I don't know who's playing Saturday night. Maybe it's Devo

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Wow whip It. Yeah, that's one of their songs that Devo. Okay,

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what is he top is? Playing sharp dress Man under Pressure Cheap Sunglasses?

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One of my favorite bands ever. Well, I was I was gonna

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have you come up because I'm curious how the Husky Nation steps up for this

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man. They're doing this thing on a Friday night and hoping to get a

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big crowd. They're they're giving people tickets on the website and they've I'm gonna

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just alrety thousand tickets already so we'll see spoiler alert. Prepare for disappointment.

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Yeah, well, no kidding, I know that, Okay, I mean

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it's fifteen thousand, this is twenty thousand. Alabama had seventy I talked to

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my guy today and talked, well, we had seventy two thousand people show

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up for Caitlin de Moor's first spring game. It blew his mind. Yeah.

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Well, there's not a boat that can go on to tour the sound

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either. You know, they can't do those weird paddle boating or the Suckerberg

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hovercraft like you guys do. There's nothing else to do in Tuscon. I

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had a lot to do and see I got. You know, West Coast

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says a different vibe, and you know, the West Coast just doesn't show up for spring football at USC And on my day, we would do spring

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football when John Robinson was the coach. We we would do it on the

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practice field and they would cake the sidelines shoulder to shoulder, nose to butthole,

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with people like like seven deep on the sideline all the way around the

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field. And Robin they get a pa going and Robinson would just have a

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live mic and be like, oh, there he is the lawn in Washington,

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you know, like and and he just comment the whole time. And

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it was so annoying, you know, because you're there in your stance and

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he's like and one spring they made me and one spring they made me play

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with a with a broken hand, like literally like a whole cast on my

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left hand, and uh, I had to run like a swing route and

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Brad Aughton, who was our quarterback, turned and threw it from here.

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Yeah. Uh yeah, he's one of the autumn Tumwater Yeah Tumwater legendary coach

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and all that. Uh and now he owns a pizza franchise, yeah,

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through Vegas in Utah because he had his Mormon mission in Italy. Brad's a

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really interesting guy. But anyway, I remember Brad threw a ball at me

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and just to spite what Jay rob because I only had one hand, I

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just punched it out of the air. He what he was doing. I

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got John Robinson underwater for the entire snois like Richard Nixon. You ever talked

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to him? So uh and uh heuh. I got hit once by a

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safety, really hard hitting safety named Grant Pearsall hit me on the sideline of

20:10

one of those spring games at the practice field, and it was literally like

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the movie The Mission where Robert de Niro gets crucified backward down the waterfall,

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Like I literally got crucified like into the crowd like a like a grunge rock

20:23

concert. And uh yeah yeah. So for a guy that's taken as many

20:27

shots to the head as you've taken, the fact that you remember all this

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is pretty impressive. I got hit so hard once in practice at sc because

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we used to like there was a wall at practice in like a street that

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goes like through the middle of campus. I got hit so hard by a

20:41

guy named Richard Cook. Had a practice at sc once that the ball went

20:45

flying over the fence and onto the street and hit a DPS car. Campus

20:49

security. With that, we say goodbye. Can we do? Can we

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do tuesday next week? Does that work for you? Let's do tuesday because

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we got the mock. The Millon Man marches next week. Good luck with

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that, all right? Man? I fetch shut up, Petros, Papa

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