In this episode we hear the story of a learning designer in Cape Town, South Africa (who wishes to remain unnamed in the credits), whom Nathan originally connected with during a missions trip a decade ago. She shares how she navigated disillusionment with her church when she realized “missionaries don’t look like me”, and how this has turned into a passion for decolonizing education. We also talk about science vs the supernatural, valuing an honest journey, and trusting a God big enough to handle doubt.

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To learn more about Nathan's upcoming musical audiobook: https://nathanlandisfunk.com/glorious-shipwreck/