Jake starts the podcast by trying to trigger Larry, but Larry successfully pretty much almost doesn’t take the bait.

Jake had to report to jury duty and has some stories to tell.

He also gives us a quick update on some school stuff here on America’s Number 1 Teaching Podcast.

Larry has a lot of really boring and probing questions about Jake’s productivity setup. Jake pretty much just does things that sort of work for him and doesn’t worry about it, which is less than helpful for Larry, though maybe he should not be such a dweeb about “getting things done.”

We chat about TV’s The Good Place, which ended and we pretty much spoil it so if you’re sensitive to that kind of thing I hope you read the show notes because we full on spoil it. Larry thinks the show’s cosmology ended up being surprisingly bold at the end.