0:01

So I've been watching Zan

0:04

Rowe, is that her name? Yeah,

0:06

Take Five. Take Five, I think it's

0:08

cool. And there was

0:10

a guy on there, I should know his

0:12

name, I think I'm getting this right, it

0:14

was the guy who wrote Hamilton. Oh

0:17

yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

0:19

got to know him through Curb Your Enthusiasm, he played

0:21

a character in the Curb Your Enthusiasm. Now people probably

0:23

know him. Are you a fan of Hamilton? I've

0:26

not seen it, it's a rap musical

0:28

isn't it? It was huge in

0:30

the States. Massive. And

0:32

here it did okay, didn't it? Yeah, I

0:34

know because my daughter's 17 and

0:37

hangs out with a group, and a few of the

0:39

kids in her group are fans of Hamilton, and when

0:41

we went on a holiday, you know I

0:43

drove them down the beach house, some

0:45

of the kids put on Hamilton songs. And you

0:47

weren't happy? Yeah. What are

0:49

you doing, talking like that, but it's

0:52

a bit of a head of hood, a heart of a

0:54

bit of a bitter. There's also ballads too, but

0:56

I don't mind a musical song. I

0:59

like Memories, or Don't Cry For Me,

1:01

Margentina. But

1:05

they didn't really take

1:08

me by storm, but I would still like to see Hamilton,

1:10

just to see what all the fuss is about, because it's

1:12

obviously very good. You know what I mean? I'd be happy to

1:14

see it. You give me a free ticket, right now I'd go.

1:16

Oh, you're a good guy like that, aren't you? I'm

1:22

a bit like you. When

1:25

I was younger I liked them. Musicals? Sound

1:28

of Music, Carousel. Sound of Music, great.

1:30

Sound of Music, and we're going to

1:32

watch that man right out of my

1:34

hair. Happy talking, talking, happy talk, talk

1:36

about the birds. They

1:38

have great songs, they have one banger. They should,

1:40

they're musicals. Yeah, but they're not all great. But

1:43

what they need, if you've got a musical, you

1:45

need the big hook one. Memories. Oh,

1:48

I like the Le Mis one. This

1:50

is adorning all the time, this is

1:53

about. It

1:55

would seem that you would be

1:57

a musical guy, given your background. Yeah, nah.

1:59

I hate them bands on Specs of Spectrum. Yeah,

2:01

but at school there were guys in bands and

2:04

we were in like punk rock bands and then

2:06

there were people into the musicals. It was a

2:08

bit of a divide there. Yeah,

2:10

our school used to do Captain,

2:12

was it? You know, Gilbert and

2:15

Sullivan. Yeah, we did that. Captain

2:18

of the Pena for a year. But as

2:20

young people who went to suburban high schools,

2:22

that was often the only theatrical outlet for

2:24

us. Was it being the school musical, wasn't

2:27

it? It was quite common. Well, it was,

2:29

I did stand in front of

2:31

stage watching, I didn't have the guts to be

2:33

in the school musical. I remember going, it's what

2:35

I want to be. I want

2:37

to be up down the stage. Well,

2:40

you know, my history was my older brother Trevor was

2:42

very good in musicals. And so he was the leading

2:44

guy. He was Nathan in Guys and Dolls because he

2:46

could sing and stuff. Really? Yeah, absolutely.

2:48

Yeah, he's a bit of a, I don't want to

2:51

say that. He's an all rounder. He's a tough guy

2:53

as well. I don't mean

2:55

tough guy, tough guy. But he used to,

2:57

you know. He's in a rock band. He

2:59

lived a life? He used to get

3:01

in trouble with Mum and Dad. No, that's Mark. Different brother.

3:04

Who did I have dinner with in Queensland? No,

3:06

that's Trevor. Oh, Trevor's, yeah, pushed

3:08

the limits. But anyway, at

3:11

high school, he was good looking. He

3:13

could play football as well. As I

3:16

said at his third wedding, second wedding, I

3:18

said, Trevor basically peaked at high school. But

3:21

anyway, no, he's doing well. Don't

3:25

worry about Trev. Anyway, so when he was

3:27

so good at music, me and my twin

3:29

brother started year 7 form 1,

3:32

they went, oh, they're obviously going to be good too.

3:35

And so they put me and my twin in the

3:37

lead roles of Noah and his Ark. I played Noah

3:39

and my brother played God because I thought it was really

3:41

good that Noah and God looked like each

3:43

other. And so we

3:45

did that. Obviously, we weren't that great because next

3:47

year I was just an understudy to Toad from

3:50

Toad Hall. How did God go? How did your brother doing

3:52

God? I reckon your brother would be pretty good. Glean.

3:56

Yeah, I don't know. I,

3:58

someone said you'd imagine that. musical but I

4:00

looked up there is a Noah and his

4:03

art musical because I remember one of the

4:05

songs Noah, Noah you can't do anymore. We

4:08

talked about turning this into a musical haven't we? Somehow

4:11

I'll roll it. Who

4:13

knows? Wow, you know you've got your

4:15

mate Tom. Oh he wrote a

4:17

very successful musical. Yeah, we'll just get him

4:19

on board. He probably lists me. Now I

4:21

can't remember the name of it. That's terrible.

4:24

He's probably listening right now going, Tom is

4:26

a listener. This is my next project. Dan

4:29

Edmonds in it. Yeah, it was fantastic. Did you get

4:31

us in? No, no, I should have because I've got... Incredible.

4:37

I've got a mother in aged

4:39

care and had a mother in law in aged

4:41

care so I should, yeah, anyway. You should have.

4:43

When it comes back. Oh, see? Yeah.

4:46

Anyway, what he said was... What

4:49

he said was... Yeah,

4:51

Lin Miranda. Lin Miranda. Hello

4:53

Ross if you're listening. God,

4:56

that was a good one. He

4:58

said a very interesting thing.

5:00

Well, I thought it was... Because he's been a real journeyman,

5:02

that guy. Has he? Oh, he took

5:05

ages to get Hamilton up and stuff. Yeah,

5:07

yeah, absolutely. He's probably chipped away for years

5:09

and good on him. The role he played

5:11

in and Kerb was a person that Dave

5:13

was doing things for. Yeah. But

5:16

his thank yous weren't very big enough.

5:18

Oh, that's right. But not appropriate for what he had

5:20

done. Oh, thank you. It's

5:23

like I would have expected a bigger thank you

5:26

for what I just done. Yeah.

5:28

Okay, there's a bigger thank you. Lin

5:31

Miranda? Anyway, go on, go on. I think

5:33

it's someone else. I

5:35

could be completely wrong here. I

5:38

might not... Because I've seen most of the

5:40

series because you know, Barns has been on

5:42

there and a few different... I reckon next

5:45

series once... You? You.

5:47

You're going to be on there. I'm not a musician. No,

5:50

but they're not all musicians, are they? I think

5:52

they are, aren't they? Are they? Yeah. Anyway,

5:57

he said, or maybe she said, I like

5:59

this... song and I loved what she

6:02

said, well he said, I love

6:04

the song and I don't know why. Oh

6:06

yeah. I

6:08

thought that was great. Because there

6:11

are things in music

6:13

and in movies, in art, you

6:15

go I really

6:17

like that thing. It moves you, you don't

6:20

know why. Don't know why, but that's the

6:22

job of art isn't it? Like a good

6:24

laxative, it moves you. Yes, even

6:26

if it moves you to go I don't like it, that's

6:29

still giving you reaction. Ambivalence

6:31

is the cancer of art.

6:33

If you look at something and go

6:36

I'm feeling nothing, then

6:38

because if people dislike this show at least they,

6:40

but no one dislikes it, at

6:42

least they are having a reaction

6:44

to it. So when someone says I like

6:47

this but I don't know why, it means that it's

6:49

getting through to you on a different

6:51

level. We can't please everyone too. If you try to

6:53

please everyone you'll fail. Is

6:55

that what they say? Oh that's interesting. I'll

6:58

say that when Zan Rowe interviews me. Anyway,

7:02

so are there things in your life besides

7:04

music that you give score

7:06

on what's your number? 132410. Give score

7:08

or ABC number 04473747. Are

7:11

there things that you like in your

7:13

life that you love and you

7:15

don't know why? Wow. Have you got

7:17

any? You might just,

7:20

I mean obviously you know that

7:22

you like food, food potato

7:24

chips. Yeah. Well you know,

7:27

give me an example. Okay this is not a great

7:30

one but it is putting

7:32

the bins out. You like that? Yes.

7:34

Lawrence Mooney did a routine and I went

7:36

oh my god I can't believe that someone

7:38

thinks like me. There's such a pride in

7:41

getting them out there, you're achieving something, you're aligning

7:43

them up, you're putting them on the, you're getting

7:45

the right bins for a start. Now I'm explaining

7:47

why I like it. I like

7:49

putting my rubbish in other people's bins. Do

7:52

you really? Well because we often have overflow.

7:54

Three teenagers, two cats. Do

7:58

you do it a little bit funny walk when you do it? I

8:00

do it at night. Yes, so

8:02

do you skip over the road and hope you don't

8:04

get caught because there are big people looking at you.

8:07

Okay, I'll give you another one. Opening

8:10

the sound of a counter-coke opening. Oh

8:12

yeah, great. You're going to

8:14

say, oh that's because... If

8:16

it's a beer or something, I love

8:18

that... Shwok! No, it's great.

8:21

It's great. Maybe something refreshing is about

8:23

to happen. Maybe that's fine. I

8:25

get satisfaction from staking

8:28

the dishwasher and putting it on. There

8:30

you go. And cleaning the sink up so there's

8:32

nothing left. Wiping the sink down. Wiping the sink

8:34

down. That'd be the satisfaction there. Yeah. Absolutely.

8:37

You would be... Like washing a car too.

8:39

Washing a car feels good. Do you feel

8:41

as much satisfaction washing your car as you

8:44

do putting it through

8:46

an automatic one? No. So

8:48

you don't get it? It's like changing a tyre.

8:50

If you do it yourself, you feel like, yeah I've

8:52

done that. I've changed that tyre. You put mine through

8:54

the automatic when I look out with pride. I don't

8:56

deserve pride. Oh, you know. I'm

9:01

not feeling good about my car because Dave won't let

9:03

me. Peeling

9:05

a label off something? Oh,

9:07

yep. That feels good, doesn't it? Or just

9:09

peeling an orange effectively. Peeling

9:12

an orange effectively. Oh yeah. And then

9:14

like a mandarin where they just pop out. Yeah. Nature

9:17

is very clever the way they pop them in the mouth.

9:20

They're amazing. Absolutely amazing. This is amazing.

9:23

But you know there's a big one that's

9:25

out there now. We may have talked about

9:27

it before. It's called ASMR. Yeah, ASMR, the

9:29

sound of stuff. Yeah, where people get really

9:31

close to the microphone. Can we do it

9:33

like here? Yeah, go on. Well, a common

9:36

one is where the girls who've

9:38

got long fingernails. I've

9:40

got a... A drink? A drink. And

9:43

I'm going to put my drink really close to

9:45

the microphone. And I'll also do AMSR voice. Okay.

9:49

Here's some eye-stinkling in a

9:51

glass. Wow.

9:56

For people like this. Here's

9:58

me doing up. A

10:00

zipper? Oh here we go. Oh hang on. Hang on.

10:02

Hang on. Yep,

10:07

something's just flopped out, do you want to... Here's

10:13

me tucking in my shirt.

10:16

Do people really listen to this? They

10:19

do. Oh

10:21

hey, how can you hear that? Yep. It

10:25

gives me adjusting myself. Oh my god. So

10:28

that people will watch that for hours.

10:31

And I guarantee they love it and they don't

10:33

know why. Wow, interesting. Yeah, anyway.

10:36

Good topic, gives a call 13 2014.

10:39

Anyway, here's the music because I'm about to

10:41

do something very inappropriate. Yeah,

10:43

I'll get it please. Welcome

10:53

to Somehow Related Now. Please

10:55

welcome your host, Glenn Robinson,

10:58

Dave O'Neill. Oh,

11:09

welcome to the podcast. Welcome aboard. Somehow related. Yeah,

11:12

we get two topics and we've

11:14

got to work out how they're related. It's a pretty

11:16

simple concept. Very simple. Should we get the topics or...

11:19

Without any more further ado. Further ado.

11:21

What do you... I bet you never

11:23

say this on stage. Would you please give

11:25

it up for... I have said it

11:27

before. What does that mean? Give it up

11:29

for, I think it might be an American thing. Give it

11:31

up for. Big round of applause. Yeah, give it up for.

11:34

I've said that, absolutely. Please give it up for. Give it

11:36

up for. Okay, give it up

11:38

for the topics. Yeah, give it up for the

11:40

topics. Here they come. So...

11:44

I just don't understand what that really means.

11:46

You know what I still don't understand? What

11:48

people on television yell...

11:50

Oh, God, I'm sounding old. They're

11:54

on TV. They're on a panel. They've

11:56

got a microphone. You don't have to

11:59

talk like that. No, that's often because

12:01

if they're a stand-up they're used to that kind

12:04

of projection. I know, I know. God,

12:06

I should be in the nursing home. Yeah,

12:08

it's like when you do a live broadcast in a radio

12:10

or if we did this live, I'm

12:12

sure we speak a bit louder.

12:16

I don't remember you making television. I know, we

12:18

were watching a show the other night coming up

12:20

and my wife was like, why is that person

12:22

yelling? Because that person was hosting a big show

12:24

and so you know those big, whether it's big

12:27

brother or whatever, you often feel like you've

12:29

got to yell a command

12:31

in the room. Well, if someone yells and

12:33

says give it up for... Give it up

12:35

for... I'm annoyed. Alright, well here

12:37

are the subjects. Give it up for the

12:39

subject. From Sam. From Sam. What

12:42

are they? Molly Meldrum, the Archibald prize in

12:44

Chico roles. It's a three-way.

12:47

Three-way with Molly Meldrum. Oh, hello. Hello.

12:51

Hello. I did

12:53

a gig the other night for linesman,

12:55

guys in the power lines and the

12:57

guy goes, you've got to ask Stuart

12:59

about his Molly Meldrum story. Oh really?

13:01

Well, everyone's got one of these stories

13:03

where Stuart went over to pick some

13:06

power thing and ended up in the

13:08

spa with Molly. Yeah, yeah, he stayed

13:10

the night. Him and his mates like

13:12

partied on with Molly. Back in the

13:14

80s and 90s, Molly was,

13:16

you know... I mean, he was notorious as

13:18

partied. Partied, partied. Have you been to his

13:20

house? No. I've

13:23

been to his house. With all the Egyptian stuff. Why

13:25

were you there? You were filming something.

13:27

Can't say. Record deal. No. Did

13:30

he still have a favour? Get in the spa? No, I

13:32

did. I don't think Molly would be listening. No,

13:34

I love Molly. I still see my own Richmond. He lives in

13:36

Richmond. Do you know him well? I

13:39

knew his assistant quite well. So what happened?

13:42

I wrote a show about being in a band in the 80s. I did

13:44

it in the comedy festival and stuff and I needed... Because

13:46

there was always a dream to be on Countdown in a

13:48

band. That was always a dream. Of course. Someone

13:51

to recreate it. Molly recorded a video for me.

13:53

It was so awesome. He

13:56

held up a record and said do yourself a favour. This

13:58

band's going to be huge. he

14:01

was so good about it. Well I

14:03

can pretend to snort cocaine off the

14:05

record. Shave his story. Here we go. Here

14:07

we go. The very very

14:11

very first thing I ever ever did

14:13

in the industry. This

14:15

is big. Wasn't this, didn't you do

14:17

aerobics on the Dale Summer Show? But

14:19

this is before that. Oh wow. I do claim

14:21

that as the first one. Yeah. But this is

14:23

the first one and I

14:25

actually got photographs of it. I was

14:27

asked to be a, you

14:31

know in rehearsals where

14:34

they were rehearsing the awards, it was the Countdown Awards.

14:36

Molly was hosting it was the Countdown Awards and I

14:38

had to go along and sit in the audience and

14:40

pretend to be the rock stars and

14:42

so the cameras could rehearse. You're like the fill-in guy.

14:44

Yeah yeah. That seat warmer kind of thing. Yeah yeah.

14:46

So I would have to go up on stage. Michael

14:49

Hutchins and you walk up. And I'd wake up and

14:51

then I'd stand there and they'd rehearse the camera moves

14:53

and Molly would say something about it. I don't know

14:55

why they asked me to do it. But

14:59

I shouldn't say that I will. No

15:01

I won't. Molly did make a, what

15:04

do you say? He said something. What do

15:07

you say? That I had a nice. Oh.

15:10

Bum. Yeah. Well

15:13

you were young. I mean back in the

15:15

day I did have quite a, and

15:18

I was in jeans and I had my RM William

15:20

boots on. Oh you loved it. I had a pretty

15:22

good looking shirt and Molly said, I was

15:24

probably being John Farnham or something. Oh John you've

15:27

got a pretty nice ass. Funny.

15:29

So anyway. That's why we love him. That

15:32

got me, and I have got

15:34

the photograph somewhere. Really? Yeah. I actually

15:36

went to the photographer and

15:38

he charged me a fortune for two photographs because

15:40

in those days he wanted anything, anything that made

15:42

you look like you'd done something. Yeah yeah. I

15:44

bought it. Yeah yeah. I paid a fortune for

15:47

these two photographs to be able to put in

15:49

my portfolio. Portfolio to go look I'm with. I

15:52

work with Molly. Work with Molly. Oh that's amazing. I don't

15:54

know him that well. I met him a couple of times.

15:56

You got angry with me once. Why? Because

15:58

we may, I can't remember. fast forward I

16:00

think we did a sketch about someone

16:02

and we made fun of them and he wasn't happy

16:04

about it. Oh let me

16:07

know and I go well John Farnham or someone.

16:09

Yeah I did right and I wasn't in it

16:11

but I'll pass it on Molly but

16:13

he has done so much for the industry really hasn't

16:15

he? Being great. I can't remember where I met him

16:17

but we the only time we've ever been

16:19

invited to the Logies I went to the

16:22

smoking room. Someone said you got it there's

16:24

a smoking terrace in the Crown Casino where

16:26

people can smoke. Oh yeah. Neither

16:28

have I. I ate him and I went

16:30

in there with Molly and Molly was having

16:32

a cigarette with three of those chefs like

16:35

Manu or you know. So

16:37

I stood in there and talked to Molly

16:39

for quite some time yeah because you know.

16:41

Well you know your stuff and he knows

16:43

his stuff. Music yeah. I mean he was

16:45

he's out he's out was John Michaelhausen and

16:47

Molly Meldrum always knew all the big international

16:49

stars didn't they? Yeah. They always had you

16:51

know a private council with

16:53

those and they have their private phone

16:55

numbers and you know they come. Elton

16:57

John, Abba. Yeah. You helped break Abba

16:59

in the world basically. Yeah. Because Abba

17:01

was successful here before anywhere else. And

17:03

he was a character with him he

17:06

is sorry he was talking about him in the past. He

17:08

probably still wears that hat a Stetson hat.

17:10

Why did anyone is that something was he

17:13

trying to hide something or? He was going

17:15

bald wasn't he? I don't think we

17:18

all assumed that but his hat never never

17:20

came off did it? No. Because there was

17:22

a while there when he I remember seeing

17:24

him do an interview with Prince Charles. No

17:27

hat. Yeah. No hat. And

17:29

that was the one where he. That's awkward. It's

17:31

really awkward. When he said your mom

17:33

and he went you mean her Majesty

17:35

the Queen. Whatever mate. You

17:37

get over it. What's

17:40

his famous line? Yeah but I

17:42

mean do you sell for Fiverr?

17:45

Do you sell for Fiverr? But he was also it's

17:47

usually because as a TV presenter he wasn't

17:50

the smoothest presenter was he really? No but

17:52

you loved his energy. Yeah. Still do love

17:54

his energy. Enthusiasm.

17:56

And his playfulness and his sense of

17:59

mischief. He's a member

18:01

of mentor. What's it called? We're

18:05

all a member of that. What do you mean I'm a member?

18:07

You're a member of whatever? This is like a high IQ.

18:12

And I would have never, not that, but I've

18:14

never, how do you, I was ever approached.

18:17

You see the test I think. But you

18:19

get selected? Yeah I don't

18:22

know. It's an IQ test. And

18:25

he was a member of it. It's incredible. And he came from

18:27

a very small town. He came from like Warrkneville or something like

18:29

that. He's from a very small town in the country. And

18:32

he's got a statue? I've seen that statue. In

18:34

Richmond if you're from other parts of the world. And I parked

18:36

my car and I do radio with Nick Molloy and I parked

18:38

next to Molly, Melville and the statue. And

18:41

it got, what's the name? Wrecked. Vandalised.

18:44

Weed on. But they've cleaned it up.

18:46

It's all fine. Molly.

18:48

Molly was big for countdown.

18:52

That would have started in

18:54

what, mid 70s? Yeah.

18:58

And that went through to... Late

19:00

80s. Late 80s? Yep. Then he

19:02

flipped over onto Hayhats Saturday. Oh that's right.

19:05

Molly, melodrama. Yeah and John Plaquemine used to

19:07

give him a hard time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh

19:10

god we should have, we should have run John Plaquemine.

19:12

Oh yeah, you can come on. No

19:15

I love Molly. Michael Veitch was a

19:17

good impression of him. Very good impression of him. I

19:20

went and saw the countdown and the music and

19:22

all that Brian Mannix wrote. Vitch was in that. Vitch was

19:24

in that. Yeah it was really good. Of course it would have been.

19:26

I saw Brian at the airport the other day. I always thought he

19:29

didn't like me and he came up and had a good old chat.

19:31

Oh Mannix? Yeah. He grew up near

19:33

you. He's from out that way. Oak Park? He's Oak Park

19:35

I reckon. Yeah. Strathmore he's Oak Park. He'd

19:37

been doing some gigs. And he lives on the Gold Coast

19:39

now. Yeah he's on the Goldie mate. He's happy. Oh he's

19:41

swimming every morning. Yeah he's a good guy. He

19:44

looks the same. He looks exactly the

19:47

same. He's like

19:49

wow. Yeah incredible. Molly did get

19:51

into a bit of strife though. There's two stories. There's

19:53

one that he when

19:58

Samuel because they made a mini series

20:00

about Molly on Channel 7. And

20:03

Samuel Johnson won the gold logie. And

20:08

Molly got up during his speaking. What

20:10

did he do something? I can't remember. I can

20:12

remember Samuel Johnson went on to a Today show

20:14

the next day to... There's been

20:16

a controversy wasn't there? He was upset about him having

20:18

his moment sold by Molly. But

20:21

then again you're playing that guy. Well it's kind of

20:23

a great moment. He's playing that guy. And the guy

20:26

gets up. Most times they're playing people who are no

20:28

longer with us. But now the

20:30

actual guy gets to stand up. He's pretty

20:32

good. But he then when

20:35

Elton John came on. Oh he dropped his

20:37

pants. He pulled his pants. Now

20:40

I cannot condemn anyone for doing

20:43

that because as you know. You've

20:45

often pulled your pants down. I've often pulled my pants down. But

20:47

not at an Elton John concert. Maybe

20:50

Michael Buble. I was aiming for that. That was going

20:52

to be my big finale. Maybe Michael Buble. Maybe Michael

20:54

Buble. So did it... And

20:56

he got into trouble because it was inappropriate or? Yeah.

21:00

But he's getting older Molly. He fell

21:02

off that ladder. And

21:04

so he's got a bit of something going

21:06

on. He's got issues I'd

21:08

say. We've all

21:11

got issues. Love Molly Meldrum.

21:13

I'm not sure what

21:15

else we can say except he is a notorious

21:18

character that is much loved in the

21:20

Australian entertainment world. And much loved

21:22

in the music industry. Do

21:24

yourself a favour. Shall we talk about Chica

21:27

Rolzoy. Let's talk about the Archibald Prize. It's

21:31

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21:33

about your health insurance plan. But

21:36

when you have a family counting on you

21:38

to take care of them, having the

21:40

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21:43

That's why Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

21:45

is here to help. Right.

21:47

Was it? A bit left. A

21:50

little bit left I think by memory. Yeah.

21:53

Most journalism is left. They said it on the radio the other

21:55

day and it's true. Most of them aren't left. Maybe it was

21:57

moderate. Because

22:00

I did the thing, the compass. Do you ever

22:02

do the compass? Oh yes. You

22:05

have to see where you stand and who you

22:07

should vote for. I was like smack bang in

22:09

the middle. Oh wow. Like middle middle. Middle middle.

22:12

Socialist, what's the bit? A socialist. Communist.

22:15

No. Okay, communist socialist, left-leaning,

22:17

I don't know, labor. Left-leaning.

22:20

Moderate. And there's factions within the left-leaning. Oh yeah,

22:22

of course. Absolutely. Here we go. There

22:25

we go. But anyway, the Archibald Prize. I'm trying to

22:27

think of the ones I've seen. I've seen Molly was

22:29

definitely painted. So

22:32

that's one of the connections. Were

22:34

you ever painted? No, someone asked me

22:36

once but it just seemed like a lot of time. Yeah,

22:39

it's true. I remember Tim

22:41

mentioned David Gilliply. Gilliply,

22:44

anyway that guy. I know. Did

22:46

he ask you? No. We

22:49

got painted though, didn't you? Who painted you?

22:52

Yeah, I got painted twice. Oh my

22:54

god. Is that

22:56

a long sitting or? No, I

22:58

may have told this story before. The first one,

23:00

I hope he's not listening, was a bit peculiar

23:02

because... Lose the top, close

23:05

off, sit on the milk crate. Looking

23:08

great, that's good. I'm a bit cold, don't want

23:10

you to shut up. You want to be in the Archibalds

23:12

or not? Yeah, it was a bit weird. You made me get down on one

23:15

knee and hold

23:18

a shoe box on my shoulder. What?

23:22

Yeah. And then he... What

23:24

does that mean? And then he

23:26

goes, because I'm going to paint you sitting

23:29

underneath the Sydney Harbour Bridge holding

23:31

a tram on your shoulder. Oh.

23:34

I went, close. Because I did it

23:37

and it was fine. Didn't win anything. You

23:40

like to support the arts. Yeah, but that's

23:42

a big ask. So you go,

23:44

okay, I'll do it. And so that means you have to turn up

23:46

to a sitting and... Was it a friend of a

23:48

friend or someone? I don't know. Because you just

23:50

get context to your agent and you just go, okay. So

23:53

that wasn't great. And then he just kept

23:55

on sending me film scripts. You guys, can you read

23:57

my script? I'm going, no, no. I

24:00

signed up for the Archibald not to read your scripts. I don't want

24:02

your scripts anymore. So that

24:04

was a little awkward. It's always weird. And that

24:06

man now is Baz Luhrmann. Can you believe it?

24:10

Can you believe it? God, I feel stupid now.

24:12

Should have read those scripts. Then the second one

24:14

was a nice lady and she did quite a

24:16

good painting. But it's just that thing. Do you

24:18

really like looking at yourself? No, I didn't really.

24:20

I didn't like looking at myself. And

24:23

then she did two. She did one for the Archibalds

24:25

and she did one for me just

24:28

for my own wall. And

24:30

I'll be honest, my eyes didn't

24:33

look right. A little bit like this. It's

24:36

weird. Cross-eyed. Yeah. And

24:38

look, I'm no oil painting. So therefore looking at it was a little bit...

24:41

Offboarding. Yeah, really off-boarding. And

24:44

then there was the Archibald one. And

24:47

then it became a thing because they said to

24:49

me, it didn't make the final, do you want it by

24:51

it? I said, no, thank you.

24:53

Then someone said to me, did you know Channel 10

24:55

bought it? And I went, no. That's right.

24:58

And then put it up in the boardroom

25:00

at Channel 10. Were

25:03

you dressed as Russell Coyle? No, it was just

25:05

me looking at Archibaldy. Looking

25:08

at Archibaldish. And that's not fine. I

25:10

don't want to... No. It

25:13

was in the corridor. And I'm going, what the fuck is

25:15

that doing there? Now I feel weird. And

25:19

then some time went on and

25:21

one of the security guys

25:24

goes, we're down in the storeroom the other day.

25:26

Oh, yeah. And he goes, there's a

25:28

painting of you down here. It's looking a bit old and dusty.

25:31

Do you want it? I go,

25:33

no. No. And then I'm going,

25:35

oh, that's sad. Yeah, they've taken you off the

25:37

wall. So, did I do something wrong? So I'm

25:39

not good enough for the wall anymore. No. Because

25:42

if you're good enough for the wall, you're good enough for the

25:44

wall. Yeah, but things change. I mean, Burton Newton's photo wouldn't be

25:46

up there anymore. You know what I mean? Oh,

25:48

that's true. Yeah. So... But

25:53

where would it have been? Now it's probably,

25:55

I don't know. Security guard. Something

25:57

that gets thrown away. You probably backed into it next

25:59

time. you go there and put you in the car. We've

26:01

got a hole in it. A bird shooting on it. So no

26:03

disrespect to the Archibalds. You

26:07

know what, you've done your time for the arts. I'll

26:09

tell you about the time with Mick Molloy that we

26:11

were doing some gigs in Canberra

26:14

and Mick goes, I really want to go to

26:16

the... Yeah, to

26:18

the art gallery, portrait gallery. Portrait

26:20

gallery. And we're going, oh

26:22

okay. Unusual. Seems a bit

26:25

familiar. Yeah, you know really? Okay, yeah we'll

26:27

go. And we're walking around and

26:29

then he's, what had happened was he'd been photographed

26:31

for the portrait gallery and he'd been put up

26:33

the wall and his trick was that we were

26:35

going to be walking around and he was going

26:38

to go, oh my god. Oh

26:40

look at that. Look at that. I can't believe

26:42

it. What's that doing up there? That's

26:44

embarrassing and so that was the ploy. But

26:50

what happened was we're walking around and someone

26:52

had already seen it and go, hey Mick,

26:54

hey Mick. I saw you point

26:56

it around the corner and you looked like an

26:59

idiot. Which

27:01

spoiled his wound. Spoiled his, yeah. But I didn't

27:03

get that. Funny. It was, you

27:05

know. Yeah. Not a bad

27:08

photograph. I think I'd much prefer to be photographed. No,

27:10

no, no, no. Would you, if Ando said to you,

27:14

will you come on? Would you go on? Sure.

27:16

Yeah, why not? You'd have to cry. You'd have

27:19

to cry on that show. You've got to cry. Okay, I'm not

27:21

going to cry. Because, you know, he would bring out. Unless he

27:23

starves me or something. You know what, he would

27:25

make you relive your motorbike,

27:27

your push bike accident. I'm not going

27:29

to cry over that. Well

27:32

you've got to cry over something. I'm

27:34

just helping you out here. I'm

27:37

helping you out. He'd bring

27:39

back some pain. I'll tap into his story.

27:41

I was on a boat. Hang

27:44

on a minute. This

27:47

is my story. So,

27:50

I like the packing room prize. It'll be pretty good.

27:52

The guys at the storeroom kind of guys. They choose

27:54

a really good one normally. You don't have

27:56

the main prize and they have the packing room prize. I don't know

27:58

what that means. So the guy, okay. they have the main prize

28:00

decided by art judges or whatever. There's

28:03

a packing room prize where the guys that do all the

28:05

unpacking of the frames and put it up on the walls,

28:07

they choose one between them. Oh, that's a great idea. I

28:09

think it's called the packing room prize. There should be more

28:11

of that. Yeah, and the ones that they choose are often

28:13

better than the main ones. And who chooses the winner of

28:16

the archival? I don't know. Is it just

28:18

art judges or something? It's not audience voters,

28:20

I don't think. I think it's just... Unusually, you've got

28:22

to admit the issue. Must be a board. The ones

28:24

they choose are fantastic. Yeah, I remember

28:26

that Tim Minchin one was very good.

28:28

Oh, but Barry Humphrey's one was good?

28:30

Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes I get a

28:32

little bit dubious because you can

28:35

tell they've taken a photograph and they've kind of

28:37

used the photograph. Yeah. Not

28:40

color by numbers, but... I know what you

28:42

mean. You kind of go, that's looking a

28:44

lot like a photograph to me. Whereas

28:46

someone has an interpretation of you laying naked on a

28:48

bar or something. Bear

28:52

rug. Yeah, on a bear rug, yeah.

28:56

You'd be more interested in a bit of that. I know how much more

28:58

we can say about the archibalds. Shall we talk

29:00

about Chico Rolls? Sure. Oh,

29:03

Chico Rolls, what, their Australian invention? A

29:06

Chico Roll is a

29:08

spring roll big. Yeah, yeah. It was

29:10

invented... Frank McEnroe. And I know that

29:12

because George McEnroe, the comedian

29:14

and radio broadcaster, it's her uncle or great uncle

29:17

because she told me once. She said, my uncle

29:19

invented Chico Rolls. Oh, that's a great... When you're

29:21

a kid, that would have been huge. My

29:24

dad's a policeman. Oh, yeah, but my dad

29:26

invented the Chico Roll. Because what happened with...

29:28

I've read about the invention, he

29:31

saw a Chinese guy selling spring

29:33

rolls at the footy and he said,

29:35

I want to make a sturdier version. You know,

29:37

Chico Rolls are really sturdy. And so he made

29:40

an Australian... But basically he made it

29:42

a bit blander than the average spring roll. Have you heard of

29:44

Chico Roll, Adley? I

29:46

haven't heard of Chico Roll. I reckon I

29:48

don't know whether I've ever had a Chico

29:50

Roll. What is it, cabbage? Meat,

29:52

like pork, onion. Bali, carrot,

29:55

onion. Yeah, it's

29:57

like a spring roll but a little bit blander. on

30:00

a good day are they any good? Yeah I mean

30:02

we had one Kera's like

30:05

lets get a Chico roll when we order fish and chips and

30:07

you have it you're like nah. See

30:09

half a Chico roll might be alright. The memory

30:11

of it is better than the actual game. Yeah

30:13

that's what I wanted. And they have a really

30:15

good spring roll. There's a guy

30:17

called Giant Springs who goes to the different

30:19

market in Melbourne. I follow him around. Ollie

30:22

he makes spring rolls. Does he know that you

30:24

follow him around? He's spring

30:26

rolls are unbelievable. Now how big are his spring rolls?

30:28

Oh no they're big like a Chico roll size. Oh.

30:31

They're like a meal. Unreal.

30:33

Oh so they're really good. Oh. Now are they

30:35

soft to the bite or crunchy? Crunchy to bite.

30:37

And soft in the middle. And he does a

30:39

vegan one. I'm not a vegan but the vegan

30:41

one is unbelievable. Oh they're going to follow you

30:44

one day. Giant Springs. Yeah do you

30:46

like a spring roll? I reckon I would if it

30:48

was a I mean I love a spring

30:50

roll like you know when you get a spring roll. Oh you

30:52

know what? You know what? Sorry.

30:55

He goes to the Anglesey Market sometimes. I've been down

30:57

there when he's there at the Anglesey Market. Oh

31:00

my god. Guess where I went last Sunday?

31:02

I was doing a gig down the beach

31:04

right? Yeah. For abattoir workers in Anglesey whatever.

31:07

All the big ones and they were great. Abattoir

31:09

workers. Do you make a few abattoir workers? I

31:12

said who's chopping up my animals? What's your favourite

31:14

one mate? What's the easiest one

31:16

to chop up? No the guy said we're not on

31:18

the floor where the admin people but we all help

31:20

out when Christmas and Easter. What I mean there's extra

31:23

things to chop up. Well they all come from the floor you

31:25

know and most of them have been on the floor chopping up

31:27

the animals. But it's good to know

31:29

that there's a there's like a pathway a career pathway you

31:31

don't have to stay on the floor forever. You

31:34

can go from chopping up animals to doing. Getting on with

31:36

your partner and they had worked at the abattoirs. Well they

31:38

know how to handle

31:41

the animals. But I went to

31:43

the Aries Inlet Market

31:46

on the way back. I was driving along on a

31:48

Sunday and there was. Was that the big one? Yes.

31:52

Well they have all this and gee there were some

31:54

good stalls right. Did it go right down to the school?

31:57

Yeah it was in the hall. It was in a hall. Yeah. I

32:01

have not seen like I got some very

32:03

good meat and vegetables on but I've not

32:05

seen handicraft like that for a

32:07

long time That's a big statement There

32:11

was a woman well There's obviously a lot

32:13

of people just in that in that surf Coast area

32:15

So this is down for anyone with the house too

32:17

long with not a lot to do and then there

32:19

was a woman who'd seriously Got tree trims and and

32:22

cut them on an angle and then put Santa Claus's

32:24

face on it. That's what she was selling Stop

32:27

it Is that

32:29

you making this? She's

32:34

a lovely work you would have been to that

32:36

market I know we go every we go other

32:38

handcrafts We love I love the market,

32:41

but we go we do the same thing We do a

32:43

lap around and we don't buy anything and we see the

32:45

things that we go Yeah, that's quite

32:47

nice, but we I prefer the supermarket version of

32:49

that, you know, even when you go, you know

32:51

It was like chutney or relish or or

32:54

um, yeah You go

32:56

look lovely don't get me wrong Yeah, but

32:58

I think I prefer the supermarket well, no

33:01

the food was good though. I've got some great.

33:03

No, yeah They do have great land I'm gonna

33:05

get in trouble talking about on the podcast But

33:07

we love going there and we love going to

33:09

the getting a coffee and a pastry. Yeah, they

33:11

do the best Okay,

33:13

she pray. Yeah, gosmae. Yeah, gosmae. That's what I

33:15

saw what a guy I know from the area

33:17

and He goes try

33:20

that you got to get the gosmae. That's the best.

33:22

Yeah. Yeah that turkey stand Yeah, and then we had

33:24

it there were had a meat one and a big

33:26

one We had a blancham again, it doesn't get any

33:28

better than that. They came out hot Because

33:33

we're talking about rolls you follow the guy

33:35

a giant giant spring roll We

33:38

sometime ago made the reference to

33:40

one-handed food Yes We were

33:42

saying that the foods that are one handed their

33:44

foods that are two-handed like a salad sandwich is

33:47

probably a two-handed food Mmm, a

33:49

meat pie is probably Two-handed.

33:52

Yeah Hamburger two-handed.

33:54

Yeah, what's one? A chicken roll

33:57

probably that's one-handed. That's Oregon. It

33:59

was probably one of the first

34:01

one-handed foods. Yes you're right. So

34:04

they make those pies, those travellers so you

34:06

can and a sausage roll is one-handed. So

34:08

that kind of tubular a dim sim is

34:10

one-handed. You pull it out of the package

34:12

with one hand, you're not holding two hands.

34:14

No, but a big salad and

34:16

chicken rolls, that's two hands. Because the beetroot

34:18

falls out on your lap. Yeah you've got

34:21

to negotiate it correctly. So

34:23

I'm gonna say yeah the chicken roll is probably

34:25

the... One of the originals. Yeah one

34:27

of the original and I think it was designed and did you already

34:29

say this for people at the football to stand in the outer and

34:31

have a beer in one hand and a chicken roll in the other.

34:33

Oh wow. And I think that was that theory of it. And you

34:36

used to come in a great little bag. Yeah. Yeah

34:38

grab a chico was it the slipper, grab a

34:40

chico roll. And even the poster. For

34:42

the chico roll girls. Remember that? Where the chico

34:44

were like big and big. Were they? Yeah on

34:47

the motorbike. On the motorbike.

34:49

Yeah the chico roll girls. Oh absolutely. There wasn't

34:51

a jingle or anything was there? No I can't

34:53

remember but it was mainly... There would have been

34:55

ads but the posters were big. So you wouldn't

34:57

do any fish and chip shop in the 70s

34:59

or 80s. There'd be a chico roll

35:01

girl on the wall on a motorbike holding a

35:03

chico roll. Yeah that would be... I

35:06

remember that. And they were sort of like... I

35:08

think they were... They cut off jeans and yeah

35:10

and Harley David. Yeah and I don't know if

35:12

it was a photo where it was painted. What

35:14

were they trying to say? They're

35:17

getting... I don't know. They

35:19

felt like sort of... Oh god I'm

35:21

getting hungry. An

35:24

Australian invention which is derived from...

35:27

Spring rolls. Spring rolls. Deep

35:29

fried. Made their debut in Wagga Wagga I think it

35:31

was. Because I know they had a fight. I remember

35:33

reading this in the paper about where they were actually

35:35

invented. Whether it was Bendigo or Wagga Wagga. I remember

35:38

there was something here comes our lunch. Oh here we

35:40

go. Yeah here we go. We've

35:42

just had lunch and I had a hamburger you had

35:44

soup. I mean I've gone back onto the burgers. I

35:46

don't know why but I'm just... The burgers are cool.

35:48

Cleared a man meat. Yeah. I had

35:50

a beer burger yesterday. What

35:52

is that? A burger where...

35:55

And again you probably make a disparaging remark towards

35:57

me. Where it comes in lettuce and not bread.

35:59

Oh. Oh God. There you

36:01

go. Have you tried one? No.

36:04

Okay, I challenge you my friend. Oh, I'll

36:06

try one. No, no. Have you

36:08

ever had a Sanchow bao? Yeah.

36:11

How is that one? Very good. Very

36:14

good. That's like a minced chicken, mince or

36:16

pork mince. Yeah, with stuff in it. And you'd... So

36:18

it's kind of like a Sanchow bao burger.

36:21

Okay, alright. Maybe. Yeah, your voice

36:23

is going on. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know.

36:25

I challenge you. Just your bare-bow burger mate. But

36:27

a burger is a burger. What is it? Just

36:29

quickly while we're on. Well, the buns make up

36:31

a burger. The bun does make it. And it's

36:34

a two-handed event. Donald Trump used to take... I

36:36

was looking at your burger and you were halfway

36:38

through it. I'm going, he's at the

36:40

top of the mountain. He's halfway through. He's loving it.

36:43

And his next bite is ready to go. Donald

36:46

Trump used to take the buns off the burgers, apparently. What's

36:48

the best bit for you? The first bite? Middle bit or

36:50

the last bit? No, the first bite's the best. I think

36:52

by the time I get to the end I'm going to

36:55

be full. No, because I want to get into the middle

36:57

bit. Because you get all

36:59

happening. Whereas if you go from the outside you

37:01

might only get a bit of dry bread. And

37:03

maybe a hint of burger. No pickle. Whereas

37:05

when you're halfway through the meat

37:08

is going, hello, here I am

37:10

ready to go. Yeah, it

37:12

was cool. Anyway, you have your burgers

37:14

and I will have my disparaging remark.

37:16

Soup. I was thinking about it coming here. I enjoyed it.

37:19

Nice though. The soup's nice. Okay,

37:21

the topics are, have we said

37:24

enough about it? Here's the question. I'm doing an

37:26

audit. I'm doing an audit on the show. Have

37:28

we said enough about Molly Meldrum? Have

37:30

we said enough about... How do you call it? Have

37:33

we said enough about the Chico Roll? Let's have some

37:36

sticky music. If it was a game show we

37:38

moved... You are ready for world

37:40

number two. Now it's time to

37:42

move on Glen. Let's have some thinking music.

37:45

What can we have? There must be Chico

37:47

Roll ads out there. The

37:50

only thing that worries me is that if we can't

37:52

remember them... Yeah, I can't

37:55

remember. There's no Chico Roll. Grab

37:57

a Chico. There was no Jingle.

38:00

remember is there anything about

38:02

the Arch of Balls? No. Molly

38:04

Meldrum. I'll tell you some further. You

38:06

know what? I

38:08

reckon it why don't we

38:10

play the trailer for

38:13

the Molly Meldrum telling movie. Yeah great.

38:15

And it'll tell his whole life because

38:17

you know trailers are like. They're great.

38:19

They basically give

38:21

you the whole movie you go I don't do see the

38:23

movie now. It's pretty good. Girl does

38:25

this. Girl goes away. Guy comes back. Fall

38:27

in love. Have kids. Everybody's happy. That's not

38:29

the Molly story I know. Oh you know

38:31

what I mean? It's the whole thing. So

38:34

and we'll get a bit of music

38:36

from the era. Yeah great. Bit of an excess whatever's

38:38

going on. Okay. Okay here we go. Didn't

38:57

I? No I think they're really looking forward to that

38:59

route. Run right

39:01

out and do yourself a favor. Actually I

39:03

saw your mum driving the carriage. Pull your

39:05

head in. No

39:08

one's irreplaceable. Well I stuffed this whole thing

39:11

up. Molly. Wow

39:17

that was great. I took you there going Samuel.

39:19

One lot of. Oh he's a great guy.

39:21

I don't know Samuel that well do

39:23

you know you were on radio. Yeah yeah yeah. He was

39:25

around the Nova when you were in Nova. Yeah he was.

39:27

He was doing warnings. So I loved him. He thought he

39:29

was great. Yeah he just said to me one day. Oh

39:32

man I love the vending

39:34

machine here. That was your

39:36

conversation. Yeah I love the

39:38

vending machine. Maybe he

39:40

was just. And you hear his voice on like

39:43

he said the good voice. The burgers are better

39:45

at a hungry Jack's. That's him. I said

39:47

him. That's him. You'll hear

39:50

Samuel Johnson once you hear his voice you hear

39:52

it on a lot of voice overs. Absolutely. Because

39:54

you do yours. You broke it. Yeah. What's

39:56

mine? Something from Mr. Bishie. What did I say? Oh yeah

39:58

what did you say? in the middle of the year. Do

40:01

you have a catchphrase in there? Oh what a feeling. No

40:03

it wasn't. That's interesting. That's too early. Okay

40:06

so. Yes too early you're right. This is hard.

40:09

This is and I normally go first. Well I'll go first. I've

40:12

got to say I think Molly, was he holding

40:14

a chico roll in the archibald? Well that's the

40:16

only thing I can think of. Okay alright. I

40:18

thought there might be more to it. And

40:21

you know that would be iconic. He's

40:23

done a painting. Hang on to the chico

40:26

roll for the archibald. Okay. Alright

40:28

well what is the answer Sam? Thanks to Rob Caldwell

40:30

for sending this one in. The

40:33

same artist that painted Molly Meldrum

40:35

for the Archibald Prize also does

40:37

the artwork for the chico roll

40:39

posters. That is

40:42

first say and it pangs of another one. You

40:49

have been listening to Somehow Related with

40:51

Glenn Robbins and Dave O'Neill. Rob

41:00

Caldwell. Yeah. Rob Caldwell.

41:02

You probably wouldn't know Rob Caldwell but he worked

41:05

on a lot of. Still

41:07

does on TV shows. He worked on the footage show last

41:09

time. Yeah yeah yeah. And comedy comedy. Great

41:11

writer. Great man. And I didn't realise that he

41:13

even listened. He must be a big fan. And

41:15

he knows Sam. I don't know how he knows

41:17

Sam. Well people just send him in mate. People

41:20

send him in the. I don't know one sends me

41:22

anything. Well people send him to Courtney the producer. Anyway

41:25

you get on Facebook and join a group. Well

41:28

we are not in the group. We just don't want to infer

41:30

that someone has walked up within the street and gone. He's

41:33

one I'll give him a fucking thing. You know

41:36

it's all tight ships here. Oh

41:38

yeah. So hang on what was I going

41:40

to say? It reminds you

41:42

of another one? Oh yes. On

41:45

this very show. Famous artist. Who?

41:48

Painted the Chuppa

41:50

Chupp rapper. Oh Salvador Darling. It's

41:52

one of the early ones. That's

41:54

right. And he did it when he was

41:56

not making much money. So

41:58

when you were eating a Chuppa Chuppa Chuppa. up. You

42:00

are eating art history. So with all Dali

42:02

that's right. So you know just pick

42:05

Chico Roll, same guy, turns

42:08

his hand to different things. Yeah. So normally

42:11

at this point hmm we

42:13

sort of wrap it up. We wrap it up. We got to

42:15

wrap it up. And you're really good. You

42:17

tell jokes. I tell jokes but I'm trying to think

42:20

have we got any jokes about Chico Rolls? No. That's

42:23

for no. The Archibald, Molly Maldrum.

42:25

No. Have you got any jokes

42:27

in general? Hmm plenty of

42:29

jokes. Just one quick one. Plenty of jokes. Guy

42:31

goes into a bar and says I'll have two

42:34

shots of whiskey, two shots of tequila, three

42:36

pots and he starts drinking really quickly and the barman

42:38

goes why are you drinking like that? He goes

42:40

mate you drink like this if you had what I

42:43

had. He goes well what have you

42:45

got? He goes dollar forty. And

42:49

we're out.