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Why? They thanks for joining us on

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this episode of Spice Nuts on

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your host Andrew Dunkley. Glad you

0:36

could join us once again! Coming

0:38

up on this particular episode will

0:40

be looking at Australia's first female

0:42

astronaut announced this week. The name

0:44

is Catherine. Vanilla Pig will tell

0:46

you a little bit about her.

0:48

She had to go through court

0:50

process to get there but it's

0:52

all good news. Will also be

0:54

inspecting things within our solar system.

0:56

A lava like on Ios will

0:58

be looking a Jupiter's water. Or

1:00

lack of as the case may

1:02

be And a new theory as

1:04

to why methane is being found

1:06

on Mars and it's a strange

1:09

theory in Do Indeed will tell

1:11

you all about it on this

1:13

episode of Space Nuts. Damn right.

1:15

Oh yeah, no. I

1:18

don't think space

1:20

next. To.

1:26

Space Nice. Meal

1:28

good and joining. Is to

1:31

take a dip in the legs of

1:33

a oh is professor right? what's an

1:35

astronomer large? Hello Fred Yeah you'd want

1:37

to have you steel tipped boot so

1:39

I think if you do but the.

1:42

But. Yes, it's very good to be here Andrew,

1:44

I'm delighted to be back on Space Nurse once

1:46

again. I'm. Glad to have you,

1:48

otherwise I'd be sitting here making the

1:50

complete fool of myself, which we capital

1:53

to ally with the wherever that may

1:55

make it go fleets with us for

1:57

both. So what happens? anyway? it's a

1:59

little. It is

2:01

snow, otherwise we'd have to call it space

2:04

normals. Yeah. Yeah, probably got remarried

2:06

and it doesn't have a ring to it

2:08

at all. Now

2:11

are we, We might as well

2:13

get stuck straight in and first

2:16

cap off the ranks is this

2:18

announcement that that we have now

2:20

an Australian Female Astronaut First whenever

2:22

we met a couple of blocks

2:24

by this is our first female

2:27

astronaut and see a day. Really

2:29

work hard to get the city

2:31

just see so that the books

2:33

disturbed about out the way. Pascali.

2:37

Power and Andrew.

2:39

Ah. Puskas

2:41

on Us servers Adama Sunday Thomas both of

2:43

whom I actually had costs a lot to

2:46

do as if I accept both. Scully power

2:48

once led me completely straits after and it's

2:50

pursuit of seats prime Minister sides bride is

2:52

when a shed a cab with him. We

2:55

ended up or didn't end up a motel

2:57

going to bed which is why I expected

2:59

when it up in a box. That.

3:02

Was essential Things. To

3:05

come back to reality. Ah I've

3:08

also am I actually have met

3:10

her cousin bento pay an eye

3:12

on account of about the. I

3:15

caught on the occasion on which he was it

3:17

was down in Allied. I think it was of

3:19

the Space Agency because that's where she worked. A

3:22

day job is see earth as

3:24

agencies and to this is telling

3:27

space agency's cross This she is

3:29

the Space Agency Director Space Technology.

3:32

Ah and the must have been an event on

3:35

a think it was. A and

3:37

Rico per Palermo, who's the head

3:39

of the space agency who introduced

3:41

me to cast and congressmen for

3:43

that event was a duplex Fairly

3:45

regular trips down to Adelaide where

3:48

the Space Agency has it's headquarters.

3:50

Anyway, enough of that. What is

3:52

she to see sir? what is

3:54

not fully trained astronaut was he's

3:56

just finished a formal astronaut training

3:58

in Germany. T. I'm

4:01

basically somebody who's always wanted to be

4:04

an astronaut's let me quote what he

4:06

says in the news release when I

4:08

dreamed of becoming and us to north

4:10

as a child. I

4:12

never thought it possible to do so.

4:14

representing Australia is another to be graduating

4:17

as an astronaut with is trailing flag

4:19

on my shoulder or not she she

4:21

does reason why she saying that is

4:23

that I think both Andy Thomas and

4:26

Apple Scully power of the Us flag

4:28

on their shoulder because of thing they

4:30

were whilst they were Australian citizens out

4:32

bolland Australia a thing than Us citizenship

4:35

as well. So. Catherine

4:37

doesn't She's actually got Uk

4:39

citizenship as well below me,

4:41

and that some. Mean

4:43

cheap as she will represent Australia or

4:46

she goes up, say represents The Australia

4:48

is filled with opportunities to propel nation

4:50

science and technology forward in the global

4:53

space arena and to raise the level

4:55

of aspiration for the next generation out

4:57

my training and whatever comes next. A

4:59

lot of support for more trailing to

5:02

become involved in human spaceflight. So she's

5:04

now. She's now fully qualified. it will.

5:06

It remains to be seen as to

5:09

when she will get a slice. I

5:11

hope you will and of will. Have

5:13

talked about it of space know we

5:15

mine built to interview a wonder how

5:18

our wouldn't that be Leblanc Panacea his

5:20

saw am. But. I believe she's

5:22

one of six graduates out of

5:24

an original pool twenty two and

5:26

a half thousands. Dot. Set

5:29

the stage good of an

5:31

incredible said some. Pretty.

5:34

Pretty tight. But.

5:38

In the seventies doses as

5:40

it was an invitation for

5:42

Us citizens to apply for

5:44

astronaut training. Knowledge to

5:46

the advert, but I didn't qualify.

5:49

Doesn't to tool? Ah, really fast

5:51

For eleven was the limit on

5:53

six foot four so snow chanted

5:56

slogans, guess that's all I am

5:58

for it. five

6:00

to eleven. Yeah, it could go.

6:03

It's not too late. Andrew.

6:07

Oh, I think it probably is. Probably.

6:10

Although, you know, if I took

6:12

a leaf out of John Glenn's

6:14

book, I could probably get up

6:16

there. Yeah, well, that's right. I counted him when he

6:18

last went. Yes, yes. I'm

6:21

a bit young boy. It's

6:24

anticipated that all six of these

6:26

graduates should get into space before

6:28

2030. That's

6:30

your plan, I think. Great. It's excellent.

6:32

So, yeah, we've got to keep going until 2030

6:35

so we can talk to Catherine. There's

6:38

a nice comment

6:40

by the person I

6:43

just mentioned, Enrico Palomo, the head of

6:45

the Australian Space Agency, he says, we're

6:47

proud of Catherine. She will return to

6:49

Australia, a qualified astronaut brimming with knowledge,

6:51

insights and connections that will help generate

6:53

global opportunities for our industry.

6:55

And that's good news. It

6:57

is. And to wrap it up, she's 39

7:00

and a mother of two. And that's

7:03

good too. I mean, mums in

7:06

space would be rare, wouldn't they? I

7:10

don't know the statistics on that, but

7:13

it's something we could look at. Yes.

7:15

I'll write that down. Mums in space.

7:17

I like that. How many mums in

7:19

space? That's a good idea. And

7:22

yes, well done. And congratulations. We wish

7:24

her well, Catherine, Benel, Peg. Now, Fred,

7:27

let's move on to Juno, Juno, which

7:29

is just a little bit

7:31

further out than the

7:33

Moon and other places where astronauts

7:36

are headed soon. But this

7:39

is part

7:41

of the, sorry,

7:44

we're going to EO, but Juno is

7:46

the mission. EO is the

7:49

closest Moon to Jupiter and

7:52

they've been taking a very close look at it and

7:54

they're making some amazing discoveries on this mission. Absolutely.

7:58

So Juno, I

8:00

told me when you know is some

8:02

went into orbit around job so it's

8:04

been quite a while. I reckon it's

8:06

been four or five years or similar.

8:08

a we thought they extraordinary images of

8:10

for of the been on a cloud

8:12

tops on Jupiter stuff that we never

8:14

really imagine because or the so much

8:16

going on as was so too are

8:18

in a minute the summers going on

8:20

around Jupiter polls that you never actually

8:22

see from from ground based observation as

8:24

he is. Even the Hubble telescope for

8:26

the James Webb telescope which has taken

8:28

some very fine images. Of Jupiter, he

8:31

doesn't see that structure. For. Around

8:33

the north pole which is and

8:35

and south poles of Jupiter but

8:37

also what has happened is within

8:40

the last two are actually that

8:42

the last six months back in

8:44

December and again in February two

8:47

know made plus fly bys of

8:49

Ceo the innermost of but at

8:51

the moon's that were discovered by

8:54

Galileo Galilei and moons i'm a

8:56

insects emily admit minimum distance was

8:58

fifteen hundred kilometers from the surface

9:01

of a own. Ah, and

9:03

so lots of. Data. Taking

9:05

lots of image type

9:07

thing and that's basically

9:09

what we're talking about

9:11

because those being some

9:13

really quite striking and

9:15

imagery that's been produced

9:17

and I'm one of

9:19

the one of the

9:22

areas that was flown

9:24

basically a butter low

9:26

altitude and by the

9:28

humming hundred kilometers. Was

9:30

around when I think is

9:32

the the biggest and. of

9:35

the of the volcano's on to

9:38

know a genius sort of audio

9:40

video is riddled with volcanoes of

9:42

was volcanically active body in the

9:45

solar system. They. Get see sir,

9:47

it's heat for the activity from

9:49

the fact that he's in a

9:51

residence. Resident orbits with some of

9:53

the other Galilean moons ah, a

9:55

fat principally Europa and Ganymede. those

9:58

residents his basically score and squeeze

10:01

EO along with the

10:03

gravity of Jupiter itself to

10:06

warm up the centre by friction. Basically

10:09

you've got this squeezing and

10:11

squashing. And

10:13

so that's why it's so volcanically active.

10:15

And I think the most active, or

10:17

the biggest of these volcanoes is Loki.

10:21

And it sits in the middle of a lava

10:24

lake, which has been observed actually from the surface.

10:27

And I think we might have talked

10:29

a few years ago about observations which

10:32

were made from Earth of

10:35

the lava lake. It's called Loki Patera. That

10:39

showed that its surface kind of

10:42

dried up from time to time

10:44

and then turned over. You've got

10:47

these lava lake icebergs that actually

10:49

turned over. And

10:51

you might remember, because you've

10:54

increased the amount of infrared radiation that's coming

10:56

from it, which is how it's turned over.

10:58

Do you remember that? Yes, I do. Yes.

11:03

And it's quite a big lake too, isn't it? Yeah,

11:07

200 kilometres long, 127 miles. It's

11:11

not a small lake. We'd

11:13

call that an inland sea here, I think,

11:16

nearly. And it's lava. One

11:19

of the observations that Juno

11:22

has made is that there

11:24

is a very strong specular reflection that

11:26

comes off it, which means you're dealing

11:28

with a very smooth surface indeed. And

11:32

just to point out

11:34

that there are available on

11:36

the web some

11:38

YouTube basically reconstructions

11:41

of the imagery that make it

11:43

look like a flyby. And

11:46

they are very nicely done. They're artist's

11:48

impressions, but they're made on

11:50

the basis of the real imagery that Juno

11:53

has taken. And certainly in one

11:55

of them, you've got a nice reflection of the

11:57

planet itself In the lava lake.

12:00

Which gives you an idea of

12:02

just how smooth surfaces. I'm

12:04

a guy. Get a can. We

12:07

just move on as well to

12:09

one of the other regions that

12:11

was image to hunt. This is

12:13

amazing. It isn't is Donna she

12:15

marries. Ah there is a up

12:17

and what? Because because stuff. They

12:19

are so volcanically active. It's

12:21

got mountains on it. Ah, I'm

12:23

one of them is quite extraordinary.

12:25

is called Staple Mountain. Ah, once

12:27

again, it's an artist's impression that

12:29

we're seeing. which might mean that

12:31

the elevation of his been extended.

12:34

Is based on to know imagery

12:36

and is looks like a cathedral

12:38

with and you know medieval cathedral

12:40

with with his dentist. Or

12:43

with towers on it. And so yes,

12:45

that's probably you know, a result of

12:48

the the tectonic activity. Of

12:50

the on IOS, so we've

12:52

got really quite remarkable structures

12:54

on the surface that were

12:56

a seeker, a bit unexpected,

12:59

I don't think. We

13:01

found too much evidence of

13:03

really sharp mountains, but they're

13:05

doing shut up by this

13:07

sub Money supply by. His

13:09

name. this one steeple mountain have no

13:11

ads and that's exactly what it looks

13:13

like just to those yeah. First.

13:17

Very reminiscent actually of from. Is

13:20

a the imagery anyway? Ah

13:22

offered. More so Michelle,

13:24

I don't know. Have you ever visited

13:26

there when you've been so suggesting in

13:28

France? police off the coast of Northern

13:30

France and he civil county plug. Bits.

13:33

Off shore is in the middle of the ocean

13:35

but he's got and. Buildings all

13:37

the way up. It said basically a

13:39

monastery and it's got this extraordinary and.

13:42

Cathedral on top with see to sit

13:44

look a lot like steep mountain here

13:46

on the audio so that was what

13:49

was the a lightness that it it

13:51

will keep my mind when allude to

13:53

this and imagery. is

13:55

quite extraordinary i was just a bit

13:57

bigger than our moon And

14:00

yeah, it's sort of suffering

14:02

the effect of a tug of

14:04

war between other moons and Jupiter

14:06

itself resulting in all of this

14:08

volcanic activity, a pretty volatile kind

14:10

of place. And

14:13

Juno started orbiting

14:16

EO or Jupiter I should say on

14:20

the 4th of July 2016. So it's

14:22

nearly 8 years. 8 years. Wow.

14:25

What did I say? 4 or 5 years? 8

14:27

years. That's an Australian

14:29

longer. Well,

14:32

while we're talking about the Juno

14:34

mission, it's also been looking at

14:37

Jupiter itself and

14:41

taking some scientific readings. And

14:44

one of the things that scientists seem to

14:46

be interested in is Jupiter's water. What have

14:48

they found out there? Well

14:51

I think this comes from analysis

14:53

of the polar

14:55

cyclones on Jupiter which we're

15:00

really only seeing close up as

15:03

Juno gets closer and closer to the surface.

15:06

And you might remember that Saturn

15:09

has a polar hexagon which

15:11

is this hexagonal structure that

15:13

comes from cyclonic activity.

15:16

It basically sets up a

15:19

wave akin

15:24

to the jet stream on Earth

15:26

around the pole. Jupiter's

15:29

got something similar with the sort of

15:31

symmetry that we've seen on

15:33

Saturn. This

15:35

is actually 8-sided symmetry rather

15:37

than 6-sided symmetry. And

15:40

it's this set of cyclones around the pole. There

15:42

are 8 of them. But

15:45

they're also surrounded by

15:47

a central kind

15:49

of mother cyclone effect, put it

15:52

that way, which is even

15:54

more prominent. But

15:56

what has been discovered Is that

15:58

the microwave? Radiation from the

16:01

Central Cyclo right at do Jupiter's

16:03

North Pole and will talking about

16:05

the Northern Polar region know. That

16:08

central side clone has a L

16:10

a low level of microwave signature.

16:12

This it's a much less strong

16:15

than the other storm says are

16:17

going around it. And so what's

16:19

being inferred from the city is

16:21

that the structure underneath that cloud

16:23

surface is very different from the

16:26

other side clones. And

16:28

in fact that they're expecting as we

16:30

get more data from Juno to be

16:32

able to build a a what you

16:34

might call a three dimensional map of

16:36

these posts storm so you can see

16:39

how they stress down. Into. The

16:41

into the Atmosphere of Jupiter under

16:43

comes from a quote by a

16:45

do the project scientist to some.

16:48

Name. Is Steve live in peace at

16:50

Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory? Or

16:53

so that's. A

16:56

again related to how they

16:59

are looking for the molecular

17:01

structure of Jupiter's atmosphere and

17:03

it turns out that the

17:06

the isn't as much water

17:08

on Jupiter as they expected

17:10

to find what we talked

17:13

to. Abundance and so it's

17:15

just staying. And this is

17:18

by looking at molecules like

17:20

oxygen and hydrogen. O Two

17:22

and Eighty Two and a

17:25

Half close. To constituents of

17:27

water. That's

17:29

is suggesting that sanders and

17:31

efficiency of water on

17:33

the planet Jupiter which is

17:36

unexpected. And so

17:38

I'm You know it. It

17:40

feeds into our understanding. Of

17:44

how to be deformed. There's

17:47

a quotes which is

17:50

Vanessa Spaceflights website. Which

17:53

a pop? Second them. I can

17:55

just read this because it's it.

17:57

It's certainly. Puts

17:59

it. Cogently that I will

18:01

add you know through new results

18:03

on Jovian Watch abundance suggest very

18:06

low water abundance and unexpected result

18:08

and scientists it's and still try

18:10

to understand. however these results to

18:13

support scientists theories that during the

18:15

solar systems formation water nice material

18:17

was likely a driving force between

18:19

heavy elements in Richmond. The

18:22

process by which chemical elements heavier

18:24

than hydrogen and helium were created

18:26

for collected by Jupiter during his

18:28

formation. And. You get it basically

18:30

to keep the thing with. Third, you

18:33

know to to time work out what

18:35

the distribution of water abundances comparing polar

18:37

an equatorial regions and no doubt we

18:39

might talk about that down the trip

18:41

and you read me my will do

18:43

this just so much going on at

18:45

that time mission. Is

18:48

quite incredible. The fact that

18:50

it's done on a night

18:52

getting close to sixty maybe

18:54

more fly bys of Jupiter

18:56

Am and as it's done

18:58

and and was. Doing that,

19:00

they've been able to coordinate

19:02

fly bys of those be

19:04

known many moons just shy

19:06

the I in an engineering

19:08

senses. Just as extraordinary mission

19:11

in an. Probably

19:13

historically get an is one other one

19:15

of the the great figures for modern

19:18

spice engineering I would imagine. Are

19:20

absolutely and remember him widow when when

19:23

this was being planned and so I

19:25

think back and twenty six cents Best

19:27

Nuts is already started. So

19:29

thing with so he vs and I'm

19:32

in. Nobody knew whether he would survive

19:34

Gypsys radiation belts. That

19:36

was always wanted the questions is he going

19:38

to make it her and while it sell

19:40

the house and it's doing fine job as

19:42

we discussing. It sure has

19:44

and if you want a chase

19:47

up by information about that you

19:49

know. mission in the border on

19:51

Jupiter and nice incredible geological features

19:53

on a O L saw on

19:55

the nest a spaceflight.com when spot

19:57

website Haven is the spice that's.

20:00

Andrew Dunkley Hey, we're

20:02

professor of read What

20:04

Science. Writer Drive. Space

20:07

nuts Now afraid let's move on

20:09

to Mars a little bit closer

20:12

to earth. Sort of anxiety has

20:14

that we've We've discussed this a

20:16

few times and this been also

20:18

the series put up about why

20:20

they have been detecting may song

20:22

made sign on Mars. One of

20:24

the theory is in may still

20:27

have some sort of tectonic activity

20:29

below the surface or it may

20:31

have some man. He. A

20:33

primordial like that, some this leaking miss

20:36

stuff out. A custom must make they

20:38

make dine on earth is is. Created

20:40

By I've Been Created. With.

20:43

Know there are living creatures on

20:45

mars to this point in time

20:47

so i'm didn't to thinking maybe

20:49

this isn't something you know my

20:51

microbial below the surface that might

20:53

be doing this boss. And

20:55

you serious brain put forward and

20:58

the cause might be us. Humans

21:01

Well partly else aside, partly as

21:03

yeah. which is some not directly

21:05

or indirectly cause my ass yes

21:07

yes some of his Anyway where

21:09

because it is this. Ah, the

21:11

puzzle. The mace and puzzle. Is.

21:14

And it's one. this goes back

21:16

before we started sending and you

21:19

know, curiosity and perseverance to Mars.

21:22

Because he can observe this in

21:24

the atmosphere from us he can

21:26

detect that those methane and moses

21:29

atmosphere. So we knew about this

21:31

a long time ago and it

21:33

yes exactly is he says is

21:35

it is residual volcanism or is

21:38

it and mismanage and eight micros

21:40

fan of both of which are

21:42

interesting ideas but but it's behaved

21:45

in a ferry aren't way. For

21:47

example there is one spacecraft ah

21:49

which is a European space. Agency

21:52

spacecraft. It's called the Exo

21:54

Mars Exo Mars Trace Gas

21:56

Orbiter. it's

21:58

enormous blue orbit around Mars,

22:01

it's never detected methane. And

22:04

that is bizarre, because that's why it was

22:07

sent there, because we see Mars. We do

22:09

see methane in the atmosphere of Mars. I

22:12

think it probably means that you don't get

22:14

any methane at high altitudes. And

22:17

then we've got Curiosity

22:19

had a

22:22

device known as SAM,

22:25

Sample Analysis at Mars, which

22:27

keeps on detecting traces

22:29

of methane around the

22:31

surface of the location where it is,

22:34

which is Gale Crater, named after an

22:37

Australian amateur astronomer in

22:39

the early 20th century. So

22:42

Gale Crater is a place where methane's

22:44

detected on the surface, but in fact,

22:47

it's the only one so

22:50

far, because none of the perseverance doesn't

22:52

have anything to detect

22:54

Mars. Perseverance, of course, is

22:56

in a different place. It's at Gesserok

22:58

Crater. So it

23:01

doesn't have the ability to detect

23:03

methane. But the

23:05

story gets more complicated, because quite

23:08

often, methane is detected

23:10

at night by Curiosity.

23:14

But then it vanishes during the day. It

23:17

varies with the seasons. As

23:20

Mars, of course, has seasons, it's got

23:22

a similar orbital inclination to the Earth,

23:25

about 25 degrees, if I remember rightly.

23:28

And sometimes it goes

23:31

way, way up, spikes to levels

23:34

around 40 times greater than

23:36

we normally see. So

23:39

what's the story? Why

23:42

does some, this is a question

23:44

that's a lovely

23:46

article on this on phys.org, the phys.org

23:49

website. They pose the question, why

23:51

does some scientists and science instruments detect methane on

23:53

the red planet while others don't? And

23:56

What they are coming to. The

23:58

conclusion, the new idea, Here in

24:00

this. Is and it

24:02

comes from Nasa. A pizza? You

24:04

know something? That being. Basically

24:07

us studied for quite awhile

24:09

and practice and the scientists

24:11

said thirty.out. Space Flight Center

24:13

Greenbelt Maryland and where this

24:15

work is coming from. What

24:18

they are suggesting sees

24:20

that I'm the soil

24:22

of Mars. Which

24:25

is. Kind. Of different

24:27

from the soil on the Us we know that

24:29

this very fine grained send their. But. Also

24:31

the he gets. Ah is

24:33

is this a higher level of salt?

24:37

Concentration within that soil is

24:39

a guess. crusty, So.

24:41

You've gotta trust that covers

24:44

the lower levels And they're

24:46

suggesting that underneath that cost.

24:48

And they did not suggesting

24:50

how the Me Sane is

24:53

produced. But what the suggesting

24:55

is that the Me Sane

24:57

rises up on it is

24:59

is locked in by this

25:01

crossed of soil. Are

25:04

making up you know, making up

25:06

the the surface of Mars and

25:08

serve. The. Suggest it

25:10

during summer. When

25:13

he's a bit warmer, that weakens

25:15

the the the the trust. And

25:18

you get me, thanks. Seeping out of

25:21

that's why we see the seasonal variations

25:23

in methane. But also that

25:25

if you've got a Rover, Which.

25:28

Weighs about the same as a

25:30

car or yo of us are

25:32

driving over this crust is it

25:34

to break the trust as you

25:36

drive over it and let them

25:38

a sign out so that that's

25:41

why. You. Dizzying it in

25:43

jail crisis because this is where this

25:45

crust is them. The Rovers driving over

25:47

that. That is. Every time it

25:49

me though it goes forward, it's going to stress

25:52

the surface. Maybe. Release puffs of

25:54

me say it's a really interesting ideas

25:56

as you say means that humans are

25:58

intervening in this. The process

26:00

of martian may send more than we

26:02

pops thought sir thought there was no

26:05

it's sort of breathed into the Am

26:07

coming into the arena the or comes

26:09

razor theory The most obvious answer is

26:11

probably the right one and yet yeah

26:14

yeah you can see the tracks that

26:16

these rather lay behind and I do

26:18

did little house and grooves and it

26:20

it stands to reason they could driving

26:23

I have a purpose of methane and

26:25

you cracking the surface jump it's gonna

26:27

come up and you guessed east if.

26:30

Is that kind of equipment on

26:32

board Vs know it could well

26:34

be the reason but it still

26:36

doesn't answer the question as to

26:39

how it got there the by

26:41

us cauterize that that remains industry

26:43

as but some of it's escaping

26:46

is is seasonal and possibly interventional.

26:49

This interventional I know is due

26:51

to the Are.love making up words.

26:56

Soon. To be an

26:58

interventionist interventionist, it. Is

27:01

or that's it. Better guys are

27:03

like that as a director and

27:05

the air is it. It's an

27:07

interesting theory and and one that.

27:10

We could hold water. Or

27:13

make that just as the Cps. Yeah,

27:17

I'd allow you to either. I don't

27:19

know how you investigate this further. are

27:21

hello that like putting methane detectors on

27:23

of other up. Though the

27:25

spacecraft through the comments to from another

27:28

scientist at said gonna Space Flight center

27:30

which is sir me saying experiments how

27:32

resource intensive so we have to be

27:34

very strategic when we decide to do

27:36

them. So you know

27:38

I totally. Code. Sounds

27:40

like they're half hearted about it.

27:46

Or loathe it touched that one hundred

27:48

last. Year.

27:53

Anyway, to him. You

27:55

know? yes it's hard to know

27:57

how you are you pursue that

27:59

Certain to prove than that the

28:01

case may be some future surface

28:03

spacecraft. Are the way to

28:05

go. They might be more focused on

28:08

answer me sing significant goes you specific

28:10

questions. Yes, especially he's and especially

28:12

the question of where it all came from in

28:14

the first place. And

28:17

is still being produced some way

28:19

down deep inside me. Mad be

28:21

questions, It's ah alright. very good.

28:23

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28:25

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28:30

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