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What's up, family? Welcome to Speak. Today
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is the day we are hours away
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where dreams become reality for so many
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incredibly talented athletes. This is the NFL
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Draft. To see the countdown behind me,
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we're just three hours and a little
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bit of change away. But here are
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the 10 players that I'm really most
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excited about. I'm not saying they're the
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best, but these are the 10 names
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that I just cannot wait to see
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what will happen to them. You know
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about Kayla Williams. You know about neighbors.
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Joe Alt, left tackle out of Notre
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Dame. How about Brock Bowers, beast of a
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tight end. Loud to, loud to, edge rusher.
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Probably the most skilled edge rusher that is
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coming out then Xavier Worthy. He's the dude
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that ran a 4-2-2 in the 40-yard dash.
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Then you got my
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Nigerian brother, Fashanu Olu. And
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then lastly, it's really just
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an action-packed draft with Michael Penix. I can't
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wait to see where he goes. This is
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the day, family. Draft, dreams,
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come true. Headed to the desk,
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Shady McCoy, Joy Taylor, James Jones, but
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Shady all-time leading rusher for the Eagles.
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You heard your name called 53rd overall.
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Couple years back, 2009, ended up leading
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the Eagles in the rushing yard for the entirety
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of that franchise's history. Let's talk about the dude
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who's gonna hear his name called number one overall,
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Caleb Williams. You have any concerns
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for Caleb? It's
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best part of the draft, right? It's not
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no secret. He's been knowing this
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for the last what, two years? I'm the number one pick in
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the draft. I think for him, it's just going
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in there, just being himself. I see
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the small things he does with the
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interviews, not interviews, but responding to people,
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analysts like ourselves, the
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guys talking about the teams. Man, don't worry about none of that. You
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don't gotta respond to them. You're a hell of a
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player. You know you're that good. It's the reason why you're going number one. You
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could have won number one last year. My
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advice to him is just play your game. It's gonna be some ups
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and some downs, right? But that's part of their journey. He'll
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have a great career, a great future. And I don't
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want nobody to think that if he doesn't play great
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his first year, he's not nice. No. We see a
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lot of players go through that. I went through that.
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Sorry. So he's gonna have a great career.
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I'm happy to see him. And I'm actually
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excited now for Chicago fans. All
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these years you finally get a franchise quarterback. Not
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a guy can just, he could run a little
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bit or he could throw a little bit. You
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got to do everything and now you get him
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there. They'll be so excited. I'm gonna be at
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Chicago and up.
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You have any concerns for Caleb Williams? The
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same concerns that I'd have for any number one
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overall pick. I think he is the most complete
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quarterback, certainly in the draft. Because he's the most complete player
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in the draft. Like Shady said, we knew he was going
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to be the number one overall pick the second that he
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declared for the NFL draft. No one's perfect.
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He has things he's going to develop in his game.
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He's things that he's going to improve on things that
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he's going to shift. And he is
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going into a new sport. If it was the
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same as college football, everybody in college that was
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great in college would be great in the NFL.
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And we know that is not true. He is
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playing against all professionals, grown men, some grown men
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that have played with the other grown men for
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years at a time. They're prepared. They know how
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to watch tape and digest it and apply it.
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They know how to read what he's doing. They're
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studying what he does in college, his tendencies. There's
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a lot of things that you have to adjust
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to when it comes to the NFL, but that's
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the same for every single young man that's going
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to be taken in the draft this weekend. So
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that's that applies to everyone. So my concern is
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the same for any young player. You're going into
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a new environment. You're getting new teammates, new pressures.
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The speed of the game will increase. The type
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of player that you're going against is going to
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be different than you've ever seen the physicality,
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the seed, the intelligence, but
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that's the same for everyone. So I think he's going to have
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an incredible career. He has an infinite
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feeling. He's going to a place that really
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wants him, that has been intentional about putting
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good pieces around him. They're in a unique
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situation and that they weren't the worst team
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in the league last year that they
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benefited from the other team being the
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worst team in the league that they traded for.
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So they're in this position to take him. They
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have other picks that they can bolster the roster
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with as well. And they're optimistic about
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it. This is going to be his team. And
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he has an incredible opportunity to take a franchise
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that is a cornerstone franchise in the league
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to a place I can't even say that they've been to before
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because obviously there's Super Bowl winning
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organization but a
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an offensive minded identity
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that's crazy that's what he has the
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opportunity to do
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which is really exciting my
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only concern is playing from the pocket the
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young fella in college 90% of
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his plays come out of the
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pocket and as they
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should he's a phenomenal athlete he makes a
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lot of plays out of the pocket when
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you get to the National Football League you
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have to make some of these on scripted
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throws how fast can he grow in the
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pocket can you sit in the pocket wait
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one more second for DJ Moore or Keenan
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Allen to get open and let them work
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instead of scrambling and getting out of there
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he's going to make those often scripted plays
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a lot of them in the National Football
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League but I want to see his development
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inside the pocket Patrick Mahomes is a really
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really good athlete he throws this ball from
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the pocket and when he has to show
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his ability to get out of the pocket
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he will that is the type of talent
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that Caleb Williams has but he has to
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trust and he has to develop staying in
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the pocket and delivering the ball to these
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receivers that he has out there I'm looking
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forward to see that you know and see
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him grow inside the pocket I don't want
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to necessarily play that it's a concern yeah
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I don't know why they keep showing sounds
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they say wow but I want to see
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this young fella develop in the pocket because
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if he does that we all
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know the sky's the limit for yeah I got
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no concern for Caleb on the field all my
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concerns are off this just like can he protect
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his mental you know Caleb Williams has been a
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big advocate for mental health I'm not it was
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a part of the reasons why he painted his
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fingernails during the course of the season can he
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protect his mental I was told one time and
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I believe it's success is trauma we only think
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about tragedy is trauma but success is trauma how
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do you deal with the influx of fame how
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do you deal with the influx of wealth how
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do you deal with the influx of expectations trauma
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is not just tragic trauma can actually be success
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so how is Caleb Williams going to deal
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with now all of Chicago Bears fans having
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this expectation Every Monday following
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his Sunday game, he will be on national
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television. That was not the case when
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he was at USC. So how is he going
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to deal with that? LaShawn McCoy already noted to
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it. Caleb Williams is already responding to certain critics
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on social media. He's responding to certain critics in
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real life. He's responding to certain critics by every
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medium he can respond to critics. If you paid
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attention to Caleb Williams most recent interview, he says
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he keeps grudges. He holds grudges. That's cool and
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all, but you can't hold every single grudge. It
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will weigh you down. So my real concern doesn't
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have to do with Caleb Williams on the field.
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I think Caleb Williams is an absolute beast. He
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excelled above all the talent in college. I think
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he'll excel above most of the talent in
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the national football league, but how will he
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deal with the trauma that comes with success
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and the expectation of being the number one
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overall pick? Yeah, I mean, that's every big
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time player in college though, right? If we
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just sit here and start naming guys like
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Baker Mayfield, like he
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was actually a number one pick overall and
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he had to deal with it. I got to start
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naming the players and that's part of the journey of
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it. Right. It's all the hype. I think the cool
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thing is coming from USC, you're
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gonna have thicker skin than most people. Because
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why you say that? I mean, that's big
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time football, right? Not just as X's
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and O's, but the spotlight. You
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left USC, all the great players
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you just think about that were really, really good. But
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like a guy like Adrian Peterson who was phenomenal in
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college, right? If he had that same
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resume in USC, we weigh bigger players. That's
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how it works. More bigger player, right? More
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attention, more celebrities at the game. Like you
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just named it, this goes with the flow of it. So I
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love that for him. And then one thing you said that one of
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your concerns, you said it was pocket. Pocket,
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pocket, pocket. Right. And I
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love that what you said, but that's
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a new game now, right? Patrick Moore is the best
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player in football right now. But if you will out
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watch his text to text, he all scrambled, all saw
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him running out the pocket. He had to learn it.
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And just like the good thing about this is like,
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we know Caleb is so good and respected so much
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from him, but he's gonna be a rookie, right? The
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things of dealing with the off field stuff that actual
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talk about the things you talked about as far as
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this, you. you know, there's development.
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Those are all things that that's come with
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being a rookie. That's why Joyce said he's
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working with everybody else. Yeah. And that and
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not only that, it's all about the people
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that's preparing them to watch. Oh, right. And
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I may have some certain people in college,
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but we all know right when you walk
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into the doors, what in whatever
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facility you're going into, his is going to
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be the Chicago Bear. If your
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PR people and everybody right there like, listen, man,
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this is how you want to go about certain
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situations. This is what's going to happen if you
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have a bad game. These are the reporters that's
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going to come at you. These are some of
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the questions that's going to come at you. So
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a lot of the off the field stuff doesn't
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necessarily have to do with your coaches neither. Agree.
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It's the people in the building, too. I remember
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when I got to Green Bay, I
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started as a rookie because Greg Jennings
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got hurt. So very first game of
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the season, I go out there and start. I'm
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having some good games. Everybody praising me and all
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that. We played the Chicago Bears and
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I go out there. Peanut Tillman is
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out there the whole week. My coach
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is like, Peanut, punch that ball out
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now. Protect that ball. I don't fumble.
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I don't fumble. I don't fumble in college. I ain't fumbled
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in the league. I don't fumble. First
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drive of the game, I'm about to catch a touchdown.
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Slam. Peanut, punch it out.
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Fumble number one. Later
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in the game, I catch the ball again. Peanut.
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Coach, come on. You're on the bench. When I
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walked into the locker room, my
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PR people were standing right there like,
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you're about to get it. Like, this is the
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time. These questions that are about to come at you, you're
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going to get it. Be prepared for it. If you
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don't want to answer them, don't respond.
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Next question. The very first
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question, did you fumble on purpose? That's what the
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reporter asked me. And I
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just looked at my PR dude and just smiled like,
9:40
next question. He prepared me for that. So the people
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around him off that football field is going to have
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to get them ready and I believe they will. Yeah.
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Yeah. Caleb has been famous for a
9:50
couple of years now. He's also an
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NIL athlete. These
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are a different version of college players.
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They are more prepared to deal with
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media. The owing with media
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for longer. I'm not going to say that
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the pressures. That he felt deeply felt and
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face at us. The are the same as
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being the franchise quarterback and number one overall
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pick for the Chicago Bears and expectations. Little
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hamlet that's along with us granting. Him the
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praises of generational and future hall of famer
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and expecting him to go and win a
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playoff game. And in year one I think
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that he is a rookie and should be
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granted a little more brazen than sure. Where
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the Summer when? talking about concerns off the
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field as I think we have to update.
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How we view this. I think
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I may, but I don't think I am an extremely.
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Strong person I am. Exceptionally
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emotionally Discipline? I wouldn't be.
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Here today if I was not. All of
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us have responded to people on social media
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that is not a reflection of weakness. It
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is twenty twenty four guys we have to
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move on past that evaluates people respond or
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he said on social media I made that
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the a Living Cooking People on social media
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for quite some time. I'm retired now but
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you can look at us with like madoff
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the it is is as not mean anything.
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It doesn't mean it's your week, It doesn't
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mean as you are affected by feedback. Social
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media is something that is a part of
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our lives. So for us to keep saying
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that these young people aren't mentally tough because
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they respond. As the critics. Don't
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you have never responds with critics that's not
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realistic. We have access to each other. Of
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course they're going to defend their work so
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I just can't. I can't say that because
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he did that that he is not equipped
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for. The next step everyone does is everyone.
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It is not the year two thousand is
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not sit out before. it's not about sixteen.
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it's y twenty fourth. Everyone a social media
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and every woman science everyone on social media.
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My off the bill concern for him are
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zero. I do not know his character, I
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don't. I know that he has never been
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in any kind of trouble with the last
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my know that he's been. The face of
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a very big organization and program and us
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see for a while and has that a
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lot of prices and expectations and other than
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crying which is an emotion that's your allow
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the has. What? Has he done
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That is concerning. lot
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of with with me i'm asking the table internal
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anyone I think it's open. Oh, well
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you said that you heard about that. I
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didn't know it was like me. I was
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saying my concern, everybody's saying their own concerns. I
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am, I just think that's the only thing I'm really concerned about. That's
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the only thing I'm really concerned about. Is him
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clapping back on social media? No, no, no,
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no, I elaborated beyond that. I think my
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really concerned mostly about how
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will he be able to deal with the heightened
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amount of scrutiny? Because
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right now the majority of Caleb
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Williams viewers are
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fans. Caleb Williams could
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to some degree do no wrong in college, particularly
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his first two years in college. Then his last
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year in college, he dealt with a lot more
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stress. And with a lot more stress, we saw
12:38
a different Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams' first two years,
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we didn't even see the emotional output that we've
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seen this year, positively and negatively. I told you
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on my 30th birthday, I came on a show
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and said I cried. I have no issue with
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individuals crying. I have an issue with the context
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of when you cry and how you cry and
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how it will be perceived, particularly if it's publicly,
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because others will perceive it around you, have no
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issue with tears. But his first
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two years, we didn't see that emotional output,
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positively or negatively. But then when we saw
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adversity, it's just how are you going to deal
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with it? And not only how are you going to deal with it,
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how are the people around you going to deal with it? Everybody's not
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like Joy Taylor. Everybody's not as accepting.
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Everybody hasn't updated their model. Everybody hasn't updated
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their mantra. I mean, have you clapped back
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at people on social media? Not
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anymore, not really as of late. But
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my thing is, forget
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the clapping back. You didn't like how he, because he
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went through some adversity this year, right? He was supposed
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to win the Heisman again, lost three full games in
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a row, didn't play well through some picks in the,
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like he went through some adversity. You didn't like the
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way he handled it. Is that what you're saying? And
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you don't think he- No, no, no, no. It's so
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hard because I say something and then y'all say something
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that I didn't say. We're having an argument. Because I
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didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I
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have yet to say I didn't like anything. Only thing
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I'm saying is I am concerned about something. What I
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am concerned about is what, he's never faced the criticism
13:50
that he's going to have to face. And
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so if you, if you put more tension on
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something, what will happen when you put more tension
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on that thing? I don't know. If I get
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under- with 225 I'm fine. Y'all
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put four plates on it, I might collapse. Because
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there's more tension on it. So all I'm saying
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is, this year with more tension, with more stress,
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with more scrutiny, we saw a different version of
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Caleidosis. My thing is, if you did four plates
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on Monday, and you did four plates on Friday,
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you know what I'm saying? And it crushed
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you a little bit on Friday, you
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still been through that on Monday. Correct. Why,
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just, he did do that again. I threw
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picks and we lost. If I throw picks
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and we lose, I think the difference is,
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when Caleb in college struggled, the whole world
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was not talking about it. When
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he goes to the Bears franchise, I believe
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Chicago's the third biggest market in America, as
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it not just pertains to football, as it
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pertains to media markets, the third biggest media
14:42
market in America. There are expectations for Caleb
14:44
Williams to come in and be the savior
14:46
of that franchise. The scrutiny and the negativity
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will be as loud at his as ever
14:50
been for Caleb Williams. How do you deal
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with that? I agree with Shady
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to some degree, everybody has to deal with
14:56
that. But everybody hasn't had the expectations of
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Caleb Williams. I believe that there are very
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few quarterbacks that have, you could argue Trevor
15:02
Lawrence, you could argue Andrew Luck in
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this generation. I can't speak to John Elway, et cetera.
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Obviously people think John Elway was amazing
15:09
coming out of college, but there are very few
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people that have had to deal with that heightened
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of expectations. That is where my concern lies. My
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concern also lies with perception. Because
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though we perceive something to be cool, I've
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been in locker rooms where like, it
15:22
might not be cool by everybody. Everybody
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don't like that. Everybody don't like how you do
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this. Everybody don't like how you do that. Everybody
15:29
might not be accepting of it. And so that's
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really, if you are different in any way, shape
15:33
and form in society or in an NFL locker
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room, you might have to figure out how to
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navigate those differences, at least in my experience. I
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guess my question is, what makes him
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different than the other players that are his age who
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are doing the same thing? Where,
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what I have seen from Caleb is a difference
15:48
in things. I haven't seen the other players express
15:50
their emotions in the same manner. They're not as
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big, I guess. Well, again, I have to watch.
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Cause you don't know what I mean. On Fridays after left here, I had to
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go. But because of
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the way that he reacted to
16:04
adversity, that when the attention and
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scrutiny and expectations are higher, that
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those emotions and reactions will be
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more intensified? Yes. Because
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the pressure is intensified. I think the reaction is
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intensified. The impression was intensified this year. Thus, the
16:19
reaction was intensified. I had a nuanced conversation with
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somebody about this last week. Hopefully, we have time
16:23
for it, but I'll start it. My
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issue wasn't necessarily with an individual showing emotions.
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But do you have the ability to control
16:30
your emotions? Everybody on this desk has
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emotions. Tom Brady takes his helmet off, he slams it on
16:34
the ground. But he don't keep slamming
16:37
it on the ground. Because you got
16:39
to get up and you got to play the next theory. After
16:41
a game, you shed a tear. You shed two tears. You shed
16:43
three tears. But you can't afford to shed all of the tears
16:45
in the world because you got to get to the podium. You
16:48
got to get to the next game. You want to cry to mom? Cool. But
16:51
can you afford to sit in that emotion? Can you afford to sit in
16:53
anger? You can't afford to sit in anger. You
16:55
can't afford to sit in any emotion because the
16:57
game is continuing to go and continuing to grow.
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So it's not being emotional. Please be emotional. I
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look at tears, how I look at anger. I
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look at it all the same. But what? How
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are people going to respond and react? And that's who
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that's why I say, I mean, you can't worry about
17:11
that because I can see me having a
17:13
two, three pick game. Right. And go up
17:15
there and cry until his mom. That's what he did before. Right. All
17:18
these little wrong with that. I just think that that's who he is. And
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like I said, one of the concerns that I don't want
17:23
you to go be strong or not be yourself. So maybe
17:25
if you do clap back here and there, like, but let
17:27
me ask you this shady, because we were in the same
17:29
locker room. So unique to us. I know people I won't
17:31
name names, but they were in the back corner of the
17:33
locker room on the left side, controlling the music on the
17:35
left side, controlling a lot of money, a
17:39
whole lot of money. If you're a third quarterback
17:41
was all go crying. I'll
17:43
just go back. They're a quarterback. They're crying. They not,
17:46
they not having it. But this is what they not
17:48
having. This is what I will say. Am
17:50
I lying? You're not lying because you have a point. But I will
17:52
go to this point. One
17:54
thing about the quarterback, especially the franchise, dude, it's
17:56
going to go his way. Right?
18:00
right? I don't care how big the player was around him.
18:03
The main focus is that quarterback. So you ain't
18:05
going to get crazy and say this, say that
18:07
about the franchise quarterback. You want to look them,
18:09
bring him up. So if you a
18:11
great left tackle or you a great wide receiver,
18:13
are you a great running back? Where may be
18:15
the main focus is that, is that quarterback. And
18:17
I'll give you an example. When they in the meeting rooms and all that,
18:19
even with these 80 young playing bad, they're going to get on it, but
18:21
then I'm going to get on the same way. They don't get on this
18:23
wide out. You know what I'm saying?
18:26
So, so I feel like when you're not with your young guy,
18:28
I can be better example. Josh Allen,
18:30
right? We want to draft him and
18:32
the captains was me, Cal Williams, Lorenzo
18:35
Alexander and somebody else. And
18:38
he had some racist, like
18:40
some raps, these rest of rats, right? Hey, y'all, he's
18:42
the only little thing, but he tweeted it, whatever. And
18:45
before they drafted it, all the captains in there say, Hey, I
18:47
got to drop this dude. You think the players would, would
18:50
care about it. And I'm like,
18:52
so I let some of the captains, almost say what they said.
18:54
Now I put it right in there. I said,
18:57
hold up. Hold it. First of all, this kid, we
18:59
didn't even young, right? Bring him to
19:01
the NFL. We're going to do everything possible and
19:03
our powers to make him feel comfortable. So,
19:05
so we don't know what type of clarity really is.
19:08
If he's racist or he's not racist, we going to
19:10
know exactly what it is. We need to make
19:12
him comfortable. And when I said that, they're like, yo,
19:14
you right? Because this is our friendship. We're going to
19:16
win. Yeah. I don't care what you did when you
19:18
was 16, you're 22 now, right? And
19:22
this people, we say things that we might not mean,
19:24
or we try to be cool and that type of
19:26
stuff. But anyway, my point being is when he got
19:28
there from
19:30
the head to the bottom, that means, that means the,
19:32
the, the owner, the owner, sales to
19:34
the players. We made everything possible for Josh
19:36
Allen to be successful on the field and
19:38
off the field. They'll do the same thing
19:40
for killer ones. And not only that, one
19:42
thing I do know is once you come
19:45
in that locker room, if you make a
19:47
place, nobody, that's all that matters. And
19:49
another thing, if he's coming into the locker room, thinking
19:51
he's not going to have a bad game, then what
19:53
are we talking about? If he's coming in this locker
19:56
room thinking he's not going to have some ups and
19:58
downs, then what are we talking about? The
20:00
greatest have had that. The greatest have had to
20:02
deal with that. I remember playing with Donald Driver.
20:04
Donald Driver told me, if you watch me play
20:06
long enough, you'll see me drop another one. It's
20:08
gonna happen. And I don't really care what nobody
20:10
says about it. Just play the game and do
20:12
what you do. Aaron Rodgers has bad games. Patty
20:14
has bad games. Joe Burrow has bad games. Brady
20:16
has bad. It's going to happen. People are going
20:18
to say whatever they want to say. You're not
20:20
gonna play flawless your whole career, young fella. If
20:22
you come in like that, you're gonna be all
20:24
right. And let's say he don't show play. Let's
20:26
say he don't play well, though. We won't
20:28
talk about the franchise, though. Player. Think about that for
20:31
a second. Um, right? Young. I
20:33
think he played well this year, right? I think he's a good player, but
20:35
I use a rookie that go through that. Ain't nobody
20:38
gonna talk bad about him. Because you know, if you
20:40
do, you probably won't be here. He's guaranteed to be
20:42
here. His parents need to be here. We're trying to
20:44
build around this dude, right? We get embarrassed. They didn't
20:46
go out there and get swift,
20:49
uh, uh, Allen and these dudes because they just get
20:51
no quarterback. Now we want the best corner we get
20:53
on the board. We get me. We'll make it comfortable
20:55
for him. So if you say anything bad about him,
20:58
what's the coach gonna say to you? You think we'll
21:00
be around for that? No, we ain't done. And we
21:02
love our paper. Depends who you are. How
21:04
do y'all feel about you say something about him? I look
21:06
at that as a certain player, right? I'm a captain. But
21:13
I think you might hear murmurs within the
21:15
locker room. Like, because I've been in those situations.
21:19
Right. You're not gonna say nothing to his face. But according
21:21
to my, Hey, bro, you believe he really right?
21:25
You really quiet though. This
21:28
only occurs if he's legitimately
21:31
terrible, which I don't see. No, I
21:33
don't see him. And
21:35
even then to Shady's point in your rookie season, it
21:38
don't matter. He's a rookie. Now, it might
21:41
matter to some Chicago fans or a writer
21:43
or two, but he is a rookie.
21:46
He's going to struggle. There's going to be a point
21:48
in his career where he has a bad game. This
21:50
is also not news to him. I assume he knows
21:52
he's not going to play a perfect game every single.
21:54
We were talking about a grown adult
21:56
here. Like he knows what he's stepping into. I just
21:58
think that we have a. a lot of
22:00
these philosophies on what makes people capable
22:02
of handling pressure and what doesn't. Michael
22:05
Jordan used to make up grudges in
22:07
his brain. You said, what? I
22:09
didn't say nothing. Yeah, you did. I heard you.
22:11
He would make up grudges, make up reasons to
22:13
be mad at an opponent. That
22:16
was his fuel. Everyone approaches the game
22:18
differently. I think that any young player
22:20
that's coming into the league at this
22:23
point in this environment,
22:25
in this social media environment, in this,
22:27
everyone is covering sports. There's all this attention,
22:30
all this pressure. If you're unaware of what
22:32
you're walking into at this point, what
22:34
have you been paying attention to? Like,
22:36
this is the moment. And he said,
22:38
he's ready for the moment. I believe
22:41
him. He's, of all players, he's coming
22:43
from USC's Hollywood. He's
22:45
been seeing some other things. We live
22:47
out here. So I don't have any concerns for him
22:49
off the field. I think he's going to step up
22:51
to the moment and I think he's going to have
22:53
a great career. We're going to find out. Can't wait
22:55
to see. Can't wait to see when we return. Which
22:58
team is under the most pressure in this NFL draft?
23:00
Is it your favorite team? Which team under the most
23:02
pressure to make a move? That's next, don't speak. Well,
23:10
the Bears will be home to Justin, to
23:13
Caleb Williams was formerly the home to Justin
23:15
Fields. But now that so many teams are
23:17
on the clock draft, a few
23:19
hours away, 32 teams have pressure in the
23:21
next few days. No more pressure, none bigger
23:24
than tonight, that is. So Joy, which team
23:26
is under the most pressure in this draft?
23:31
This is a couple. This is actually a tough choice,
23:33
but I think I'm going with the Patriots. They're
23:36
entering a new era. They're going to
23:38
take a quarterback. And if
23:40
they have any hope of being relevant in that division, they
23:43
got to get it right. And they got to get it right
23:45
quickly. There
23:47
might be a little, you know, play
23:49
at the end of the tunnel over next year, depending
23:51
on how things shift, but what
23:54
do they have? What have they done over the last few
23:56
years? I mean, Bill left them down and out. opportunity
24:00
to rebuild and rebrand as an organization.
24:02
You're, you're bell checkers, not there anymore.
24:04
Brady is not there anymore. You're entering
24:06
into the new era of your organization.
24:09
What are you going to build? What are you going to do?
24:11
What direction are you going to go in? What is it going
24:13
to look like? What is your strategy for this? So I think
24:15
the Patriots might be a team that we're not talking about. Even
24:18
when we talk about the division, no, who's going to win it?
24:20
It's the bills, the dolphins, the jets. We're not even mentioning the
24:22
Patriots. I do think that this, this
24:24
off season and this draft is going to be really important
24:26
for them for their future. James, I'm
24:28
coming to you with this one, big dog. I'm saying to Raiders.
24:32
What do you mean about the Raiders now? I
24:36
think of all the new coaches, I
24:38
think Antonio Pierce has the shortest leash.
24:40
He has the shortest leash because he has the
24:42
least NFL coaching experience. Number one, I think obviously
24:45
we've seen what the Raiders have done as head
24:47
coach over the last four years, five years, whether
24:49
you want to talk about the grooms and then
24:52
after the grooms you have the thought sheet, but
24:54
then he takes them to a winning season to
24:56
the playoffs and they get rid of him and
24:58
you hire McDaniel's then you get rid of him
25:00
and you hire Pierce like, so I've been
25:02
a roller coaster there, but then beyond that,
25:04
the draft will bring a lot of tension.
25:07
And when I think about the tension, the draft will bring you
25:09
got Telesco, he's a GM. You
25:11
got Pierce, he's a head coach, but you need
25:14
a quarterback. If Telesco wants a quarterback that Pierce
25:16
don't want, now you got tension
25:18
eminently and don't let you swing and miss
25:20
because their quarterback room is currently Aiden O'Connell
25:22
and Gardner Minshew. So to me, the most
25:24
pressure on this draft falls with the Raiders
25:26
because if Pierce does not get his quarterback,
25:28
right? If they don't get the draft, right.
25:31
Do is going to be on the hot seat by week 12
25:33
of his first year coach. No, yeah, that,
25:36
that, that take one. No,
25:42
um, no, that's a, that's a good one.
25:44
I'm still hoping they don't take a quarterback
25:46
to be honest with you. I'm hoping the
25:48
Raiders take a big time defensive player, build
25:50
up that defense. We have seen, we've had
25:52
a solid quarterback in Derek Cardin. This defense
25:54
be terrible for years and it has not
25:57
got you any wins. Build up that defense.
25:59
Let Gardner Minshew. you go out there and play,
26:01
get the guy you want in free agency or the
26:03
draft next year. Right, but at least let Antonio Pierce
26:05
coach his side of the ball with some big time
26:07
talent. But mine goes to a
26:10
really good coach in y'all's eyes and that
26:12
is... In y'all's eyes? Oh, I
26:14
know his name is. Who? Sean...
26:17
Who you about to play? Who that
26:19
even gonna be something? Sean Payton. No,
26:21
I believe he's a really good coach.
26:23
But the spotlight's on you, man.
26:26
You go up to the podium every single time, you
26:28
boot it Russell Wilson out of there. Well, you sitting
26:30
in the quarterback room right now with Zach Wilson, Jared
26:33
Stenham. You
26:35
gotta draft a quarterback, which means you gotta
26:37
trade some of these picks you got to
26:39
go up and draft a quarterback. You can't
26:42
miss. Because if
26:44
you miss on this quarterback, this
26:46
organization is gonna be set back for a
26:48
very, very, very long time. And another thing,
26:51
if you draft a quarterback and you the
26:53
quarterback whisperer, if Zach Wilson or Jared Stenham
26:55
tried out there that first game, we already
26:57
know what type of quarterback you got. Because
27:01
he should walk into the building, being the
27:03
starter with what's in that quarterback room. The
27:06
spotlight is on the Denver Broncos. He has
27:08
to get it right and he has to
27:10
hit on the quarterback, whatever quarterback he takes,
27:12
because you gotta trade up to go get
27:14
him. 2-5. I
27:16
want to the Big Apple. The Big
27:18
Apple, the Giants. What
27:20
we gonna do? I just watch you guys
27:24
ship off your best player, not on offense and defense,
27:26
your team. Say Quang Barley, you
27:28
shouldn't see your rival with the Eagles, which we
27:31
love. Thank you. Okay. And then
27:33
you keep Daniel Jones. Bro, what we doing?
27:36
Because whoever is going to be there, it's like, okay, are
27:38
we trying to win? What are we doing?
27:41
When you tell me we will keep our quarterback, Daniel
27:43
Jones for the future, are we gonna win like that?
27:46
No. So if you want to seem to believe,
27:48
because they have a great coach, Brian Debo is a phenomenal coach, right? And
27:51
I think it's time for him to get his type of quarterback. He
27:53
was so good that Daniel Jones has bad. He's
27:55
been in an office, been in his all these years.
27:57
He took him to the playoffs under Brian Debo. But
28:00
it's only so much he can do with him. And so he gets
28:02
this type of quarterback. So my thing is going
28:04
to draft, get you a quarterback. I don't know how you're going to do
28:06
it. Might have to move up a little bit. You got to do something.
28:08
Cause you can't draft nobody from Duke. To
28:10
run your offense. You can't do that. So Dave ball,
28:12
you know, you might got a rule for you. Make
28:17
it happen, bro. Because football is a lot better
28:19
when the Cowboys are good, when the Eagles are
28:22
good. Packers and the Giants are good. The pack.
28:24
Just your favorite team. Do
28:27
you trust Peyton to get it right at this point?
28:29
Do you trust Peyton to get it right? No, I
28:31
don't. Cause I don't trust his
28:33
plan now at the quarterback spot.
28:35
You got Zach Wilson and Jared Stenham at
28:37
the quarterback spot. You traded, you use the
28:39
pick to trade for Zach Wilson. So
28:41
I don't know if you sitting up there thinking
28:43
that you could get the best out of you
28:45
traded for him. Now you're going to have to
28:47
use some more picks to trade up, to really
28:49
get the guy you want at the quarterback spot.
28:51
You had Drew Brees for 20 plus years, whatever
28:53
it was. And you won one championship and everybody
28:55
praising you like you like that. That's
28:58
what I see. What? I
29:00
hate when you do that. What is it?
29:02
You speak like that. But then we talk about Aaron Rodgers.
29:04
You don't even say nothing about that. What you
29:07
mean? He played 20 years. He got one championship too.
29:09
We're not talking about Coach Micred. We're talking about Tom
29:11
Peyton right now. He is so quick. We're talking about
29:13
John Peyton. Because y'all getting my
29:15
man, Coach Mike, a hard time. He want
29:17
them dudes though. He want them guys, bro.
29:20
Let's say we not cool like that. And I'm rolling
29:22
with him. Yeah, I'm going to get you my boy.
29:24
I leave. I'm going to the cafeteria. You
29:26
got him, buddy. Yeah, I told
29:29
him what you're like. All I'm saying
29:31
is y'all praise Drew Brees. And y'all
29:33
praise Sean Peyton way more than you
29:35
praise Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy. Yes.
29:40
Drew Brees gets no smoke. OK,
29:43
that's true. But I can't get I
29:46
cannot give you Aaron Rodgers. I can
29:48
give you McCarthy. I think McCarthy
29:50
gets way more criticism than he does. Aaron gets
29:52
all the smoke, Joy, Joy. Four
29:54
MVPs in a Super Bowl ain't good enough for Aaron.
29:57
He gets all the smoke. Because
29:59
he gets so much. much praise that the achievements
30:01
do not match the amounts of praise
30:03
that he gets. All I know is he can
30:05
have a gold, Drew Brees can have a gold jacket just
30:07
like him and he don't get the smoke and Rogers get.
30:09
He's a praise. He's a lot of praise.
30:11
I'm trying to even know smoke out. I'm
30:14
just saying. Do you think that champagne is a
30:16
good coach? I do think he's a good coach
30:19
and I think coach Mike is a good coach
30:21
but a lot of people. Yeah, but what's the
30:23
thing? What's the thing? I'm picking get fifteen. I
30:25
believe something. I mean, what's 713? What you gonna
30:27
do? 13? Like you
30:30
have to trade. I think it's 12. You gotta
30:32
trade up and you have to make sure this
30:35
is your quarterback. That's why I believe this
30:37
is huge for them and I'm not a
30:39
boy. Well, I picked the Giants
30:41
because I do think that today,
30:44
my career is today. I think
30:46
Brian Day ball is a better coach right now.
30:48
Yeah. Oh, champagne was on. He's
30:50
on more pressure. Right. Right. Right. If champagne was was on
30:52
TV, he's getting back into it. He's a phenomenal coach. I
30:55
think he's gonna get better this year but I
30:57
see Brian Day ball come right up in the mix. Yeah. Right.
30:59
And get it popping with Josh Allen. I'm like, oh my god.
31:01
I know Josh is good. He's that good. Right. Then he goes
31:03
to the Giants with an awful awful
31:05
quarterback from Duke. Daniel Jones. He gets
31:07
it popping with him. They win a game on the playoffs.
31:10
So, honestly, if he has the right quarterback, yo, they can
31:12
really do some big things because now the defense, they got
31:14
some real deep with the players over there. It's brought in
31:16
burns. Yeah. Like they got some moves. We're
31:21
gonna see though. Are you
31:23
expecting the Giants to make any noise this year though?
31:26
Because even if you do get a quarterback, say
31:28
they got Pennick, say they got uh Doon's, they
31:30
say they got neighbors. I still feel like I
31:32
think that next year though, I think
31:34
not this year that next year, I
31:37
think they'll be solid where they can compete because that
31:39
we watch them compete. They
31:41
was first year. I was so surprised like
31:43
bro. There's no way. By the fifth game,
31:45
I say he needs coach to hear. Hold
31:48
on though. If they had neighbors. Yeah,
31:50
if they can get neighbors. Oh no no no. If
31:52
they don't take a quarterback, I would like them to
31:54
compete this year because that's crazy. Oh, it's not that
31:57
neighbor. No no no No
31:59
No.. I'll
32:06
be awful movie. But if they do
32:08
you would expect them to the beaches here because
32:10
you're you're you're sticking with was you out like
32:12
that An expectation is at least as you sir
32:14
win a playoff game. So have you not taken
32:16
to quarterbacks and use it to be this year?
32:18
If you take a rookie quarterback anybody was a
32:20
rookie quarterback. I don't expect to for them to
32:22
be competing in the post season this year and
32:25
other mean have a chance is. Now works
32:27
as an hour ago Sarkozy water
32:29
cooler though. I'm. A good one. And.
32:31
We will build on them as payment be
32:33
vote because his ears. And. They were
32:36
feeling a little known feel like that remain
32:38
you as well but he's a good soldier
32:40
on subsequent Angels nine. Two.
32:43
Thousand and six and so getting worse and
32:45
worse And you could or would you rather
32:47
or the difference. I just think that because
32:49
he's having paid is what the World Series.
32:52
Or was de Boer said Dave Jones elevate
32:54
his game Or it was about do those
32:57
the most hours per week we've seen in
32:59
years. Watson What You Do it. Soon
33:02
as I live in a spate of my mind
33:04
would be drafting a quarterback wix through having that
33:06
would be a bus but is it will be
33:08
a little bit. Made. Of human
33:10
lottery for maybe two or three
33:12
probably three Burberry, three. Variants
33:15
A great moment. For having
33:17
to remove a sizable gap in my
33:19
mind. Nine so tween draped in like
33:22
days. A Mccarthy. And so
33:24
if if you take to take michael
33:26
panic said six. Is. Such a
33:28
retailer be real thing as the biggest with
33:30
it or as a seal twice families and
33:32
in between tearing have a field twice. he
33:35
broke his clavicle been after breaking his clavicle
33:37
scatter. I see join So we've broken sword.
33:39
As I see I want to say me
33:41
twice. We all know about a sea of
33:43
beauty ratio you're more likely to terrorism against.
33:45
On top of you got a clavicle on
33:47
top of a clavicle you got an see
33:49
joint so to take panics had six would
33:51
be the risk of all risks when you
33:54
already overdraft that on the annual jones. I
33:56
think it would be a mistake to. take
33:58
penance except synthetic stuff to sit.
34:00
They're not going to get to three. They
34:02
agree with that. They're not going to get to three. So
34:04
that's not, that's not the table because Washington and New England
34:07
are not going to move. So they're going to get whoever's
34:09
available at best at four. Yeah.
34:11
And there's no point at best
34:14
at four. And there's no point.
34:16
So what is the plan if they don't take a
34:18
quarterback for this year? I would,
34:20
I would. Yeah. You, you, you're locked. They, they got
34:22
it. Not too long, sir. It's the Daniel Jones. But
34:24
I'm just saying if Daniel Jones, I would say both
34:26
of them. Yes. If he's bad, he's coming off of
34:29
Andrew lock. This is a brisk corner. Because
34:31
think, I mean, that's what the Seahawks rolled out there last
34:33
year and we were cool with it when they rolled out
34:35
with Gino and Drew lock and drew lock and Gino was
34:37
a quarterback competition prior to the, I mean, I'm a bad
34:40
man. And, and as the game, the
34:42
world would say gambling gods, if there's anything called
34:44
a game of God, I'm saying receiver. No, great
34:47
risk brings you great reward.
34:50
Hey man, it's a big app. What are we
34:52
talking about? Right? You don't get you a little
34:54
flashy wide receiver and go out with Daniel Jones
34:56
and this, I mean, pray, pray,
34:59
like pray every second of the game or
35:01
go out there and get you a quarterback, man. Go
35:03
ahead. Look, look, look, get some pieces up, right? And
35:05
move up maybe two, three slots. Get you a quarterback
35:07
that you might like. You got
35:10
the quarterback whisperer in your, in your
35:12
back pocket. Brian Dave ball, who's like
35:14
that. Sadie, I guarantee quarterback that you
35:16
won't though. Hey man, quarterback, you put
35:19
250 bands on and you could possibly
35:21
lose that. You're doing this.
35:24
You're doing it again. If we look at all
35:26
the drafts, see that's what I hate when people
35:29
do that. Right? It's
35:31
like now the draft happens. You can say what you want,
35:33
but in the midst of the draft, Baker
35:35
made those years. Baker went first,
35:37
which is wild crazy. Um, they
35:39
do for Arizona. What's his name? Josh chosen
35:42
Rosen, Josh Rosen. Yeah. Him. There's
35:44
a third one. Somebody was before
35:46
Josh Rose. Yes. Darnell. Well, Andy helped me
35:48
with that. So, but Josh was like that.
35:50
He's Josh's best coworker. That holds your ass
35:52
and he went tomorrow at 20 something. Yeah.
35:54
And then Lamar was, so my thing is
35:57
we fail these things. Oh man. Is there
35:59
a guy you would put $250,000 on and
36:01
all that bull crap. But the truth is, every
36:04
coach has a guy they won. The Bills,
36:07
Brian, Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott,
36:09
I remember we talked about this. They said, yo,
36:11
we want this kid Josh Allen from Wyoming. I
36:13
said, wait, where's Wyoming? Like,
36:15
they play football there? He said,
36:18
yes, we need him. All these other dudes that
36:20
they talked about. They didn't want them. They knew
36:22
the guy they wanted and it worked out. So
36:24
my thing is, when you say who they picked,
36:26
you don't know who they got they won at
36:28
Fisay's game. So I'm with them. But you know,
36:30
you're right, Shady, but there's also the chess of
36:32
it all. And the chess of it all is,
36:34
if I know that I want this quarterback and
36:36
I want this quarterback or want this running back,
36:38
want whoever, and I know I want him, but
36:40
I know don't nobody else want him that early.
36:42
You think that? Of course. But like, there have
36:44
been players where you know you want, but you're not
36:46
gonna draft him that early because I know I can
36:48
get him a little bit later. And
36:51
so like, same thing with Baltimore Ravens, they
36:53
didn't take Lamar Jackson with their first overall
36:55
pick. They took Hayden Hurts with their first
36:57
overall pick. Then they said, okay, Lamar, you're
36:59
still here. Nobody else values you. We're gonna
37:02
trade up and we're gonna get you. That's
37:04
like, and that worked out for them. I
37:06
would say luckily, considering how good Lamar Jackson
37:08
turned out to be. There's,
37:11
I don't know if we can get the draft order up again. I
37:14
don't think that the Giants can afford to play that
37:16
game. I don't think so either. Like how
37:18
many teams up there need or could
37:20
possibly take a quarterback? But
37:23
that's my only thing. Like, I
37:26
don't know if the Giants are sitting in there saying
37:28
we need one. I agree. I truly don't. I think
37:30
their plan is going in there. If Daniel Jones is
37:32
healthy and he can go, we are going to give
37:34
him one more year. But they don't like you. They
37:36
don't like you. And that's why they signed Drew Love.
37:38
The round of draft time was Patrick Mahomes. I know
37:40
you're a college guy and you know all that. He
37:42
wasn't looked at as Patrick Mahomes' head today, right? Not
37:44
at all. It's so crazy. The bills,
37:46
this is what I'm saying. I keep speaking on this.
37:50
I won't even say the GM's name because that's my guy.
37:52
But the GM before Brandon Bingham got there, the
37:55
owner said, I want Patrick Mahomes, right? The owner
37:57
wanted him and Buffalo Bill's on. Buffalo Bill, they
37:59
want him, right? I said we gotta get this dude. We
38:01
knew it. He didn't get it. They
38:03
fired the GM Firing and
38:06
looking past your own days So I'll sell to say
38:08
it's like yo, you know who your dudes are and
38:10
it may not be Drake may But they may not
38:12
be this great dude right now. Right? No, I might
38:14
not be that clinics. You keep saying I don't know
38:16
guy Yeah, he might not be that Today,
38:19
but if they have a plan for him in a scheme for him, he
38:22
can be that Don't
38:24
pass up on somebody now for somebody later. I
38:26
should be a line there now put that on
38:28
there Oh,
38:31
yeah So
38:52
ah I
38:56
do your draft or replacement Justin
39:00
Jefferson trade Henderson all players who want
39:02
more money send their team Pay
39:04
them or should they go ahead and
39:06
move on from them? They have to make those
39:09
decisions in about two hours. We'll tell you what
39:11
they should do that's next Hopefully shady still on
39:13
the org Oh Huge
39:22
names waiting for huge payouts my favorite conversation
39:24
of the day is the one we're about
39:27
to have pay or draft That is the
39:29
decision that so many franchise including the Cowboys
39:31
the Niners the Bengals the Vikings they have
39:33
to make they are star Players that want
39:35
to get paid, but why pay a guy
39:37
a hundred fifty million when you could simply
39:39
draft as replacement I know it sounds cold-blooded,
39:42
but that's the way the NFL goes relax
39:44
into your chair turn your volumes up Get
39:46
ready to have some fun as we move
39:48
quickly through these players through these teams through
39:50
these organizations and through this paper Let's start
39:52
with Dak Prescott. You know, he's going into
39:54
the final year of his deal Leshawn McCrory
39:57
the Cowboys have a decision to make should
39:59
they be Pay Dak Prescott, sir, or should
40:01
they draft his replacement? Talk to me. Put
40:04
him on the airway. He's on his top. Okay, ask
40:06
for it. No, no, listen, listen, it's
40:08
time to go. Draft his replacement. We've seen
40:10
enough of Dak Prescott. Every year's the same
40:12
thing. Good regular season, bad performance in
40:14
a post season. I'm
40:17
gonna say draft his replacement as well,
40:19
but drop his replacement high. Actually
40:21
go for it. Go get a
40:23
quarterback in the first round. Go get
40:25
his replacement. Don't go in the middle of late rounds
40:28
and kind of play around with it. Start rumors, start
40:30
the extension in the locker room. You're kind of saying
40:32
that you're not sure if you want him back, because
40:34
otherwise he would have an extension or we would be
40:36
talking about it. On one side you're saying you like
40:39
him, then you're not signing the extension. I don't know
40:41
what's going on, but you get the same thing every
40:43
single year, great regular season, and then you lose in
40:45
the playoffs early. I think it is time to draft
40:47
his replacement and develop him. He's not gonna play this
40:49
year anyway, but go and get a quarterback
40:52
high in the draft. So
40:54
it's a process. Oh no. Pay
40:56
the man. Pay the man. Pay
40:58
the man. All pro quarterback, 12 wins, 12
41:00
wins, 12 wins, gives
41:03
you a chance to at least have
41:05
a fighting chance in the playoffs to
41:07
compete for championships. We don't know
41:09
when that time is gonna come, but Dak Prescott
41:11
is a really good quarterback that a lot of
41:13
people in this draft right now are really, really
41:15
hoping they can find a quarterback that can play
41:17
at an all pro level as Dak Prescott. The
41:19
Dallas Cowboys have one, pay him his money, keep
41:21
him away. Why are you giving him the full
41:23
screen? Why are you giving him the full screen?
41:26
Don't worry Shady, you'll get it on this
41:28
question. All right, let's move to the Niners and
41:31
Brandon Iuuk. Brandon Iuuk was an all pro
41:33
wide receiver at last year, family, his agent. You
41:35
know he gonna get him his money. Shout
41:37
out to my friend, his agent. But Brandon
41:39
Iuuk, shout out to you for balling. Now the
41:41
question is, should they pay BA or should
41:43
they draft his replacement? It's the best wide
41:45
receiver class probably since the turn of the century,
41:47
this draft class. 2-5, talk to me and
41:49
can we take Shady's single please? He has requested
41:52
it. He has requested it. Should the United
41:54
pay him or draft a replacement? Pay this dude, throw
41:56
him the big, big bag, he deserves it. And I
41:58
figured out like, Brandon Iuuk, he's. the
42:00
most quarterback friendly wipes are on the team. You need
42:02
him, you gotta have him. But I will say this,
42:04
Denyze always do this. We see the same thing with
42:06
both, so they ain't paying for the last minute, so
42:09
I'm calm and I'm collected. But they gotta pay this man,
42:11
because Brandon is like that. All pro last year, he gets
42:13
busy. Hard to do. Give that man his
42:15
money. It is hard to do. Very hard
42:17
to do. And I would love to pay everybody. And
42:21
I think everyone should get their money. What?
42:24
Is there a... I think
42:27
he does. I thought I did. We're gonna
42:29
get this lobster. I know, I know. And
42:31
I love how to do it. I wanna
42:33
pay everybody. I want everyone to get the
42:35
most money possible. But you can't pay everybody.
42:38
Oh my goodness. Gosh,
42:40
George, I think he's saying. I think
42:42
he's gonna say, man. You know the
42:44
nice way. Oh, wait. Listen. Gosh,
42:47
ladies, George Roy is crazy. You
42:50
gotta drop him. You gotta drop him. You gotta
42:52
drop him. What are you doing? You
42:55
gotta drop one. You gotta drop a lead. Why
42:57
do you receive it? He's going to be too
42:59
expensive. You have to draft one, get one in
43:01
the first round for the next five years. Trade,
43:03
IU, get a first round for him. Let somebody
43:05
else pay him. Get you a really good receiver
43:08
in the draft for the next five years. You
43:10
ain't gotta worry about paying him with D-BOW and
43:12
kiddo and McCaffrey. And you are going to be
43:15
okay. You gotta draft one. Co-sign that decision.
43:17
I would draft one as well. Because if
43:19
IU gets traded, he's going to make more
43:21
money and BA needs to get his bread.
43:23
Let's move to another wide receiver, T Higgins.
43:25
Yesterday, he took to his team and said,
43:28
I am demanding a trade. He's been franchise
43:30
tagged, but he's trying to put his foot
43:32
down. Shady McCoy, should they pay T Higgins
43:35
or should they draft his replacement? Then should
43:37
draft his replacement, right? You talk about prioritizing
43:39
what you want on your team. It looks
43:41
like they're worried about Jamar Chase.
43:43
And I get it. I understand that. So invest,
43:46
and that's your main focus. Cool. Keep
43:48
at the main thing. Let me give my money somewhere else.
43:50
Nothing he's good enough for. He could be a number one
43:52
receiver on any other team. So I would say
43:54
draft somebody. Yeah, I agree.
43:56
This is kind of, we kind of
43:59
all anticipated this. coming right we were talking
44:01
about what they were going to do in this
44:03
situation for a while now they do need to
44:05
draft his replacement because you have demarcation you
44:07
are obviously going to prioritize his
44:10
talent and he is great and he is going to
44:12
make his money and he obviously wants to go and
44:14
do that you always knew you were coming to this
44:16
impasse at one point or another so I do
44:18
think you should draft his replacement. Yeah I would
44:20
draft his replacement too and I would
44:23
trade him and Buffalo Bills go trade for him do
44:25
right by Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills draft you another
44:27
one in the first round do right by Josh Allen.
44:29
That's bad math hold on James that's bad math. That's
44:31
bad math T Higgins is the number two wide receiver
44:33
really good you do not have to give up a
44:35
first for him give up a couple seconds and a
44:37
third. No his was bad math to me you want
44:39
the bills to trade for T. Yeah
44:44
so you want them to pay dig pay
44:46
T even though they got rid of
44:49
digs but they got rid of digs because of
44:51
all the money. Of course not but T Higgins
44:53
is over here demanding trades. He is over here
44:55
acting like he has not had a big payday.
44:57
He is trying to get his big payday. We
44:59
are going to demand trades when we ain't made
45:02
Stephon Diggs money. Stephon Diggs on his third deal. 100
45:04
million here 100 million there this is his first deal
45:06
he is trying to get paid and to be honest
45:08
with you he is not going to get paid like
45:10
them number ones. He is going to get paid like
45:13
a number two some about 80 million
45:15
dollars. Buffalo Bills give him that money and
45:17
then draft you one and put them with
45:19
Josh Allen do right by Josh Allen. We
45:21
don't have enough time for this conversation let's
45:23
move to somebody who will surely get paid like
45:25
a number one. Justin Jefferson over a thousand receiving
45:28
yards each of his first four seasons. Three time
45:30
Pro Bowler going to get a massive contract Shady
45:32
McCoy should they pay him or draft to replace
45:34
him? You are not going to ask me. Pay
45:37
him everything. Pay him a lot of money give
45:39
him some new grills wherever he wants he to
45:41
get. He is the best in the Minnesota has
45:43
right and I am talking on the whole spot.
45:46
Those terrible walls and the Vikings pay that man
45:48
keep that good and that special. Okay
45:51
next come on now he is on
45:53
the list. Highest paid
45:55
wide received history of the
45:57
game coming up very. very
46:00
very soon Justin Jefferson will be that
46:02
man. Take that. I'm a
46:04
little gritty. Can we get a gritty? Let's go back
46:06
to T. Higgins for a second. Let's go back to T. Higgins
46:08
for a second. James,
46:11
you think he's not going to want wide receiver
46:13
one money? I'm sure he's not going to get
46:15
wide receiver one money. He doesn't have wide receiver
46:17
one numbers. Okay. But Calvin
46:19
Ridley got wide receiver one money and
46:21
didn't have wide receiver one number. Mm-hmm.
46:25
Dan's got number one money, so we got
46:27
a little different players right there because Calvin
46:29
really was wide receiver one before he had
46:31
got into the trouble. Domestika got. Yes, he
46:33
was. I mean, let a foul. Who
46:35
was it? Julio Jones is there, sir. Julio left and
46:37
he was wide receiver one. When Calvin won for
46:39
1600, I believe Julio was there, sir. He went
46:42
for what? We went for 1600. Uh-huh.
46:45
And I believe Julio was there, sir. He went for what, Acho?
46:47
He did. He did go for the line.
46:49
Andy, can we confirm that Julio was there, please? A
46:51
wide receiver. He was the number one receiver on the
46:53
team. Julio was up and down with injuries and all
46:55
that. He was the number one. He had a chance
46:57
to, though, bro. He doesn't have a really good chance.
46:59
That's what I'm saying. So somebody's gonna... You can look
47:01
at the plan. Yo, he has number one potential. No
47:03
question. I'm not saying he doesn't have that, but what
47:05
I'm saying is his teams ain't gonna pay him Saint
47:08
Brown money that he just got sent himself. I think
47:11
he got three days real. Somebody's gonna pay him, Mike.
47:13
Somebody's gonna pay him, Mike. Somebody's gonna pay him, Mike.
47:15
Somebody's gonna pay him. Somebody's gonna pay him. More
47:17
than that, somebody needs him. And
47:19
I think my point is, people are getting things
47:21
that would really benefit him. And I would definitely
47:23
even get him around to Calvin really number. What
47:25
Calvin get? 25
47:28
a year? I would give him that.
47:30
I would give him that money. The 120, 77
47:32
million. I wouldn't give him that, but I would
47:35
definitely give him Calvin really. What's tough for me
47:37
is, like, why would you
47:39
do that when you could draft a
47:41
cat? You feel me? Like, why
47:43
would you give that? You peed. Ocho, listen to me.
47:46
The Buffalo Bills still have
47:48
Josh Allen. They are still trying to compete.
47:50
They have a really good quarterback. You need
47:52
weapons. They have zero people in that wide
47:54
receiver room now. You need a couple of
47:56
them. Go trade for this man. you
48:00
think is upside is number one you get the
48:02
number one receiver and then you draft another young
48:04
fella to go in that room too and now
48:06
we got action ball with Josh out yeah I
48:09
like to move I want the money I like to move
48:11
that part that part you want more money I'm saying like
48:13
he respect that dude man he I think he's normal she
48:15
were paying like one I mean if you're drafting another
48:17
way I agree
48:22
with you young I'll hate to use my agent
48:24
when we return we got a head to the
48:28
last locker room Shady McCoy drafted in the
48:31
second round James Jones drafted in the third
48:33
round so what is it like on draft
48:35
day favorite draft day memories what's the pressure
48:37
like for the players moving on next let's
48:39
talk to 24 years of NFL experience between
48:41
them well 21 that's next
48:43
on feet family
48:51
we had to bring you into a locker room
48:53
if you've never been inside a locker room allow
48:55
us to welcome you inside of one three Super
48:58
Bowls between them two gentlemen okay
49:12
we got our family with the audience at
49:14
home now James you were drafted in a
49:16
third round out of San Jose 25 you
49:18
were drafted number 53 overall to the Philadelphia
49:20
Eagles I was drafted in the sixth round to the
49:23
Cleveland Browns but I want you all to tell them
49:25
they've never been inside of an NFL locker room before
49:27
y'all hang with us for a moment I want you
49:29
to tell them what was draft day like for you
49:31
real quick down on live in them numbers like that
49:33
to nine that five nine I thought
49:35
the final extent always had a nice people forget for
49:41
context that is shady McCoy in the two
49:43
nine B Westbrook was there his first year
49:45
shaded income become to five until that second
49:47
year in Philly but shady take me back
49:50
to that draft day memory when you heard
49:52
the name so what was it like yeah
49:54
so I'm out with the stillers though it's
49:56
crazy the GM Kevin this last good dude
49:58
and I want to we're Where'd I get drafted at,
50:00
first round or second round? He was like, man, well, it
50:03
looked like it'd be late first round or early second round.
50:05
It happened. And I remember going back home, we
50:07
had a big party. Everybody was talking about the draft. I
50:09
was talking about the party though. Hey, these days,
50:11
drama, things. The ones that drove on the thing.
50:13
And look, I don't know if they watch that
50:16
show. Favorite, love this one, where y'all keep this
50:18
rally TV. The chick, who? Who?
50:21
Who? Who? Who? I'm
50:24
like, put it in his own, y'all man. Tell
50:26
me this, tell me this, tell me this, tell me this.
50:28
I'm so sorry, I apologize. You got him an infant. He
50:30
ran an infant. This is a locker room. You got him
50:32
an infant. Who? My bad, sorry about that. Anyway,
50:35
so I had the big party and all that. So
50:37
then the next morning, right, we come in there and
50:39
the draft's going on. Andy Reid,
50:42
he called me. He said,
50:44
Shady McCoolie. Shady McCoolie. He said, Shady McCoolie. He said,
50:46
Shady McCoolie. That's not really what he said, Shady McCoolie.
50:48
He said, hey, you don't gotta pack them up. He
50:50
said, it's only an hour drive. Harrisburg
50:52
to Philadelphia. And that right there changed the
50:55
game. Changed my life, my family's life. Was
50:57
it the moment you saw, correct me if I'm wrong, don't cuss
51:00
me out if you and Philly, did you see the 215 area
51:02
code and you already knew what time it
51:04
was? Cause that's usually what it is.
51:06
On draft that you tell all your family, you
51:08
tell your friends, nobody call me. Because the second
51:10
you get a call, you think it's going to
51:12
be the teams that's drafting. You literally tell all
51:14
your loved ones, don't call me during these hours.
51:16
Whether when you got the 215. Not
51:19
really because I had three other teams call me, right?
51:21
And I'm like, oh, I might, so the
51:24
Broncos call, I had to take a visit there. The
51:27
Seahawks called and all these
51:29
teams was calling in line. I'm like, oh, I'm going here,
51:31
I'm going there. So when I got the 215 number, I'm
51:33
like, man, this is another call trying to see what's going
51:35
on with me. But it really happened. And we started crying
51:38
everybody tearing up, right? And I remember getting a call and
51:40
it was the cameras there. And I looked up, I said, hey y'all, we
51:43
going to Philly. I started crying
51:45
and yelling. No, you're right.
51:47
I think the call is the biggest thing that you'll
51:49
never forget. I didn't know where I was going. See
51:51
Shady knew first thing around. I didn't know where I
51:53
was going. Could've been third, could've been seventh. I didn't
51:56
know where I was going. I was at the crib
51:58
with the wife. She was girlfriend at the time. We
52:00
got the crib just chilling me and her a
52:02
bunch of receivers going yeah, and I'm like man
52:04
forget this draft man I'm done with it. They'll
52:07
do sorry. I just came from the combine with
52:09
the news. They're not better than me I'm like,
52:11
let's go my buddy played arena football. I'm like
52:13
man. Let's go watch watch watch TG play arena
52:15
football She like nod just chill five
52:18
minutes later 9 to 0 area code
52:20
here. That's Wisconsin. I'm like, man. I
52:22
know Wisconsin I picked the phone up
52:24
and coach Mike was like this James
52:30
And I said, yeah, this James. He said we're
52:33
about to take you with this next pick My buddy's
52:35
playing a lot like you saying nobody called me. I'm
52:37
like man stop playing man There
52:40
coach Mike me knowing him now. He said it with
52:42
that deep voice minutes coach Mike man We're about to
52:44
take you with the next pick after that the journey
52:47
Everything flashes right in front of your eyes and then
52:49
that's when the tears start coming. I hung up It
52:51
was just two of us. I hung up. It was
52:54
150 people in that house Journey
53:08
what was the hardest part because I remember for
53:10
me. I tore my quad at the NFL Combine
53:12
I'm running a 40-yard dash. I hear boom boom
53:14
boom. I was my quad being ripped off for
53:16
the bone I thought it was my heels clicking
53:18
so I had no idea where I was gonna
53:20
get drafted I was projected third to fifth round
53:22
depending on how you run toward my quad off
53:24
the bone Now I'm like, will I even get
53:26
drafted by the sixth round? I started getting calls
53:28
from my agent Hey, you know the Cowboys are
53:30
probably gonna draft. I'm like, okay cool. I live in
53:33
Dallas. I'll stay home Next thing, you know, I got
53:35
a call It's Cleveland
53:37
Browns Tom. Heckard He's
53:40
like, hey, we're going to draft you or you
53:43
court that I'm like, where is Cleveland? I
53:45
know where Cleveland is on a map. So that was
53:47
just a crazy time. It was up and down I
53:49
wanted to be drafted higher toward my quad didn't know
53:51
if I was gonna get drafted You start getting prepared
53:53
to get picked up and free agents. I'm like free
53:55
agent what? Yeah, I'm like, I ain't go to Texas.
53:57
I wasn't 13 all-american to be a free agent like
54:00
And no, shout out to the free agents who get it
54:02
out the mud. So it was an emotional roller coaster for
54:04
me. 2-5, what's the hardest part about
54:06
the transition in your mind? For
54:10
me, it was tough because I'm so close to
54:12
home, right? I remember having bad camp
54:14
days, right? And I would go home to
54:16
my house where I grew up in. Right, because at the time, we
54:18
were just building a house with my mom and my dad, but I
54:20
would go home, right? And then when I would come home, all my
54:23
old friends would come around, and this and that third, and I'm like,
54:25
this ain't what I want, you know? So that
54:27
was hard for me though, kind of breaking away
54:29
from people back home and then going to Philadelphia
54:32
and doing my job. Another thing is, I was
54:34
the youngest guy in my draft where they had
54:36
to, my mom and dad had kind of- Nine
54:38
four, you weren't 21 yet? The problem was, you
54:41
go from college straight to the pros, and
54:44
there's nobody really to show you the way, because
54:46
nobody's ever really been there, right? And that was the hardest
54:49
thing from just going to practice and not going to class.
54:51
Everything is football, football, football. And
54:53
you're a young kid, you want
54:56
to relax, rejoice. And I didn't
54:58
get a chance to really celebrate my draft and
55:00
on being in the field after that season, because there
55:02
was so much going on. Yeah, it's a couple of
55:04
things that's hard. Number one, it's the money. Right
55:06
when your name get called, everybody thinks you got millions.
55:08
You rich? Everybody thinks that that's you,
55:11
and everybody wants you to pay it backwards. Take
55:13
care of everybody in the hood, your grandmama, your
55:15
mama, everybody. So that's hard, because you got to
55:17
manage that, and you have to go out there
55:19
and deliver. And then when you step on the
55:21
football field, the hardest adjustment when you step on
55:23
the football field is the speed of the game.
55:25
You look like, look how young you look. I'm
55:27
not seeing a ho now, but he is 40.
55:29
You know? He is 40. The speed of the
55:31
game, right? So when I get out there, I'm
55:33
like, everybody was good
55:35
in college, like Shady said. Everybody fast, everybody's
55:37
strong, everybody could jump. So the speed of
55:39
the game is moving so much
55:41
faster than college. And on top of that, the
55:44
adjustments that you have to make on the fly
55:46
makes the game extremely hard. And that was the
55:48
two biggest adjustments for me. And I want to
55:50
give some advice to all the rookies out there,
55:52
right? Now, I was blessed to have great parents.
55:54
My mom and dad, my brother was phenomenal with
55:56
me, right? I hope you have everything.
55:58
If you don't have something like that, grab a- to somebody
56:00
that's been good in your life. It's an old coach,
56:02
right? If it's an old teacher, if it's
56:04
the old head in your neighborhood that kept you from
56:06
often corners, wherever it may be, gravitate to them, because
56:08
you're gonna need them, it's gonna get tough. When you
56:10
talk about the money part, what about the football part?
56:12
Where I'm used to being the man, you get there,
56:14
now you go from the top, now you're at the
56:17
bottom, you're a rookie, and the small mistakes you make,
56:19
or it's not small because you're a rookie, it makes
56:21
it bigger. And if you don't have a smile to
56:23
be in your corner, bro, it's gonna be a hard
56:25
journey, the long journey. And not only that, talk to
56:27
the vets. Like, it's a lot of
56:29
vets in there that, no,
56:31
it is something that hate, but I'm just talking about,
56:33
let's just talk about the money part. Talk to the
56:35
vets, there's a lot of players in there that is
56:37
going through the same things you were going. I remember
56:39
sitting in my locker, and Al Harris,
56:41
we called him Dirty. He walked up to me,
56:43
seen my head down, he like, bro, like, get
56:45
yourself ready for practice, right? You're a real, get
56:47
yourself ready. And I'm like, bro, man, I gotta
56:49
handle it. And he said, listen to my voicemail,
56:52
bro. And he played his voicemail, and he said,
56:54
if you are calling me about any money, your
56:56
call won't be returned. If you calling
56:58
me to check on me, I will return your call
57:00
at my earliest convenience. And he said, to be honest
57:02
with you, bro, me putting that on
57:04
my voicemail, when my family, anybody called, that's trying
57:06
to beg and do all that for money, he said
57:09
they will hear that. And right when I pick
57:11
the phone up, they say, you good? How
57:13
you doing? How football? You help me? All right. So
57:15
he said, put that on your voicemail, see what you
57:17
do. So just talk to the vets. It's a lot
57:19
of little stuff that you can learn from the vets
57:21
to own that off the field. Shout out to my
57:24
vet, DeQuail Jackson, D'Amico Ryans, my vets when I was
57:26
going into the league. My advice for the rookies, invest
57:28
in your 401k ASAP. NFL's
57:31
on double to have money. When
57:33
we return from the NFL to the NBA, Lakers
57:35
are back. Well, they're back playing tonight, but they
57:37
got they back against the wall. We got a
57:39
team meeting to get to, but we'll see y'all
57:41
shortly after this commercial break. Are you married?
57:49
Jamal Murray ended game two against the
57:51
Lakers in dramatic fashion with that game-winning
57:54
bucket over Anthony Davis. Nugget's now up
57:56
2-0 on the series. A.D.,
57:58
he called out his head. Oh,
58:00
dang, bro. You know, we have
58:02
stretches when we don't know what we're
58:04
doing. Well, that coach Darvin Ham, he
58:06
responded. Take a listen. Proud
58:09
ourselves on being, you
58:11
know, highly efficient and organized. And so, I
58:14
just talked that up to being frustrated, you
58:16
know, it's an emotional game and the way
58:18
it ended and all of that. But I
58:20
don't agree to disagree on that one. James
58:24
Jones, Darvin Ham agreeing to disagree with the
58:26
star player, A.D. Is it something or nothing?
58:30
I mean, it's definitely something. But at the end
58:32
of the day, what
58:34
was the nuggets doing that was really tricky? They were
58:36
running pick and rolls, switching
58:38
or fight over the screen. What are we talking about? For
58:41
me, Anthony Davis, you did not show
58:43
up in the fourth quarter. What
58:45
would have been a really good response for me
58:47
is you to get up there and be like,
58:49
listen, man, I got to get us two more
58:51
buckets in the fourth quarter. We win that basketball
58:53
game. You know what? Jokic had his way with
58:56
me in the fourth quarter. Got the ball to
58:58
post. It was one on one down there and
59:00
he went to work. So stand up there and
59:02
be accountable for yourself. Because I thought
59:04
on the offensive end, you and Braun had it
59:06
going at the end of the game. You all
59:08
was high pick and roll. The Braun was coming
59:10
off getting himself a bucket. So what
59:12
are we talking about? At one point, you got to
59:14
hold yourself accountable. You were not good in
59:16
the fourth quarter. We needed one or two
59:19
more buckets from you and you did not
59:21
deliver. So blaming it on your coach because
59:23
that's basically what he's doing. Yeah, I agree
59:25
to disagree. Something
59:28
or nothing, George Taylor. I think
59:30
it's nothing. I agree
59:32
with Darwin's assessment. I don't think that they are
59:35
unprepared. I don't think any team that has
59:37
LeBron James on it is unprepared or
59:39
they don't know what they're doing out there. There's a lot
59:41
of intelligent players on that court. This is not a team
59:43
that I even think of that for a second. What I
59:45
do think is that they are not good in the second
59:47
half and offensively and they need to
59:49
improve on that. You just mentioned when Anthony Davis did
59:51
in the fourth quarter. I think he
59:54
just got the game winning shot in his face and then had
59:56
to sit on the bench while we were celebrating for 10 seconds.
59:58
Like, yeah, you might be a little bit of a a little
1:00:00
upset and say something that otherwise he probably wouldn't
1:00:02
have said. I don't think anything gave us really
1:00:04
believes that. I agree. It's a
1:00:06
bit of an emotional response, which is understandable, considering
1:00:09
the circumstances and the way the game ended. But
1:00:11
when you lose to a team 10 times, Hey,
1:00:14
it's everything. It's that, it's that we're not prepared.
1:00:16
Is that we're not good in the second half.
1:00:18
It's that I wasn't good in the fourth quarter.
1:00:20
Everybody's bad. You keep losing. Something is wrong.
1:00:22
And something is everything at that point. I was always
1:00:25
told to his truth in joking. Thousand
1:00:27
percent. No commercial
1:00:29
or not. No, no.
1:00:33
You know what? I hated it though. Just
1:00:36
because when you, not as
1:00:38
a regular player, a star player, a big player, top 25
1:00:40
player, right? Of all time. When,
1:00:43
when you say something like that, yeah, you
1:00:46
know, this sometimes we don't know what we're doing. All of
1:00:48
us in defense, you put everybody
1:00:50
in a best situation. Y'all talking about this, the coach
1:00:52
part of the right. They'll talk about the coach. Now,
1:00:54
now, if I'm the owner, I look at the coach
1:00:56
now, no, no, best player. Say
1:00:58
a star said it. Y'all know what the
1:01:00
hell y'all doing? The court, we're in the playoffs. You could have won
1:01:03
a game. Y'all often cause you don't know what you're doing. Okay.
1:01:05
That's one part of it. The third part is what
1:01:07
about your teammates? Now they got an answer for what
1:01:10
you say. Aaron, Oh
1:01:12
my Aaron Donald. I'm talking to him early. I'm
1:01:14
tripping. Anthony Davis, right?
1:01:16
You say, Hey man, he said earlier, y'all don't shop
1:01:18
doing this set. How are you feeling about that? It
1:01:22
puts everybody in the best situation. I hate that.
1:01:24
Because now they might fire him after the sheriff
1:01:26
if it don't go well. And then when
1:01:28
he goes to the meeting to talk about why I got fired, they're going
1:01:31
to talk about, well, you didn't beat the nuggies. Well, you
1:01:33
know your star players said, Hey, they don't know what the hell
1:01:35
they're doing on the court. How can we win? How can we
1:01:37
trust you to win a championship? So I
1:01:39
hate it for so many different reasons. I just hate that. This is the last
1:01:41
part I hate about it is when you are a
1:01:43
star, bro, don't make excuses up for it. Go
1:01:46
out there and take advantage and take control of
1:01:48
the game. Y'all see LeBron James doing stuff like
1:01:50
that. That's the soft. Ooh, that's
1:01:52
soft. You know what I mean? It's putting the
1:01:55
fear, you know why? Because you know, you
1:01:57
say a phenomenal game in the first half. offensive
1:02:00
was, the offensive was. Second half, all we need to do
1:02:02
is not even score points, James, right? I'm
1:02:04
going to take that away because I thought, hey, you score
1:02:06
four points, the game's different, right? This score is four points,
1:02:08
that's something small. Give me more than
1:02:10
this one shot attempt. You had one shot in
1:02:12
the fourth quarter? How are we going to win?
1:02:14
Yeah, I won't blame him for that. I think
1:02:16
there's something here. That's the ball. That's the ball.
1:02:20
I think emotion
1:02:23
can motivate speech. And
1:02:25
so whether he was irate, whether
1:02:27
he was sad, whether he was emotional, I think there's
1:02:29
something to it. I think some of
1:02:31
the ads are that you think that I agree with
1:02:33
you. I think they know what they was doing. Not
1:02:36
a time. Well defensively, I
1:02:38
think defensively people now it wasn't just
1:02:41
always ad. Sometimes it was a haze
1:02:43
who was in there and wasn't switching off sometimes. I
1:02:45
know, but there was one of them times there was
1:02:47
a bucket that they didn't switch off of. One time
1:02:49
it was Prince who forgot to show and he didn't
1:02:51
show and then there was another. So what do you
1:02:53
say to this though? What
1:02:56
do you say for they locking up Jamal,
1:02:58
for the whole game late
1:03:00
in the game, he starts balling out. Yo,
1:03:03
Kitch for the most part, he
1:03:05
looks at you. The stat line going to say, he did this
1:03:07
and that third. If you really watch the game, they played great
1:03:09
deep up against him. It's in the fourth quarter. So
1:03:12
what else do you do? But you was
1:03:14
up 20. So Darvin Hamels prepared when you was up
1:03:16
20 and I thought he had a great game plan.
1:03:19
Like just because it went that way, you
1:03:21
trying to blame it on the coach. It
1:03:24
was up 20 points in this game and
1:03:26
15 in the first week, bro. Darvin Ham
1:03:28
ain't prepared. You ain't prepared. Come on, man.
1:03:30
Who is it? With the NFL draft tonight,
1:03:33
just literally an hour and a half away.
1:03:35
What one move has to happen. Do the
1:03:37
Giants have to drop the quarterback at six?
1:03:39
Do the Vikings need to trade up with
1:03:42
the Cardinals and draft JJ
1:03:44
McCarthy? So the Patriots draft
1:03:46
trade may do the commanders
1:03:48
have to draft a Daniel.
1:03:50
What must happen in the
1:03:52
biggest draft we've seen in
1:03:55
a long time. Next on
1:03:57
every team, most team believes tonight will be rewarded
1:03:59
with the future of their franchise. Number
1:04:01
one overall pick will be Kayla Williams, but
1:04:03
the first round picks are gonna go tonight.
1:04:05
These are the team changers. These are the
1:04:08
generational talents. At least that's what they're supposed
1:04:10
to be. So Shady, of all the moves
1:04:12
that will happen tonight, of the 32, what's
1:04:14
the one move that has to happen in
1:04:16
tonight's draft? I hope that we get a
1:04:19
LaShawn McCoy in this draft, which is gonna
1:04:21
be very, very hard. No, I'm
1:04:23
gonna go with the Giants. I need to see them go out
1:04:25
there and get a quarterback. You
1:04:27
got Brian Daybaugh, who's the quarterback whisperer, who's an elevate
1:04:29
coach. Let's not forget how good he was. He took
1:04:31
the Giants team, wasn't that good. No, no, I win.
1:04:34
The quarterback is Daniel Jones, took him to the playoffs
1:04:36
and they gotta win. That's what we're
1:04:38
talking about. Yep. Get your quarterback and be back to
1:04:40
the Promised Land. I'm with you on
1:04:42
that. I'm just gonna raise you on that. Giants gotta
1:04:44
make two moves. I need to see the Giants draft
1:04:47
a receiver and a quarterback tonight. I need to see
1:04:49
them get a Dunes A in PENEX. I need to
1:04:51
see, that's likely the best option, or get Brian Thomas
1:04:53
in PENEX, or get A.D. Mitchell in PENEX, get Xavier
1:04:55
Worthy in PENEX. They gotta get a quarterback and
1:04:58
a wide receiver, both in the first round. That
1:05:00
is the move that has to happen. Hopefully I
1:05:02
see them trading back, acquire more picks and get
1:05:04
them both. That's where I'm at. I'm
1:05:06
also going with the Giants quarterback. Ideally it
1:05:09
would be nice for them to also get
1:05:11
a receiver, but somebody has to throw to
1:05:13
the receiver. Yeah. And it ain't
1:05:15
gonna be Daniel Jones. Or no man from Duke.
1:05:17
Yeah. Sure. At the quarterback position, of course. Yeah.
1:05:20
No, they gotta draft a quarterback. Don't leave it
1:05:22
to hopes and wishes or rely on anybody else,
1:05:24
not picking the guy that you want. Go get
1:05:26
a quarterback. There's going to be a
1:05:29
quarterback that overdrafted in this draft. There
1:05:31
are quarterbacks that are overdrafted in every single draft.
1:05:34
You've gotta take a chance. You have an opportunity
1:05:36
at the top of the draft right now to
1:05:38
make a move in a deep quarterback draft, deeper
1:05:40
than usual. So I think they have
1:05:42
to get a quarterback. Hey, Giants, Giants, Giants. Demon!
1:05:47
What has to happen is Buffalo Bills. You
1:05:50
have to trade up. You have to get out at 28 and
1:05:52
you have to go get you one of these big
1:05:54
time receivers. You have hurt Josh
1:05:56
Allen. De'Von Bigs gone. Gabe Davis gone.
1:05:59
You took a- all his weapons. I don't
1:06:01
even know who in the wide receiver room, right?
1:06:03
You have to trade up in this draft and
1:06:05
you got to go get one of these big
1:06:07
time receivers. Roma doomsday. I don't care who it
1:06:09
is. Malik neighbors, trade your butt up there and
1:06:12
let Josh Allen know we are okay. The GM
1:06:14
said, what up there? I'm competitive or whatever. Whatever
1:06:16
he says, shady, but you're agreeing up there. Show
1:06:18
us that. Go on there and get this show.
1:06:20
They had a big time wide out. To me,
1:06:22
wouldn't you say that this is the one draft
1:06:25
that you shouldn't trade up for receiver because there's
1:06:27
like seven of them, them three up top, Roma
1:06:30
doomsday, Malik and Harrison. They
1:06:32
by themselves. Yep. The other
1:06:34
one is I feel like you can
1:06:36
find in the second and the third round, go up
1:06:38
there and get one of them big. So you don't,
1:06:41
Brian Thomas, the receiver opposite, uh, Malik neighbors. We talked
1:06:43
to him touchdowns this year. We're talking like, why? We
1:06:46
talk to number one. We're not looking for number two
1:06:48
in the first round. We talk to number
1:06:50
one. Big those dudes that you are talking
1:06:52
about right now was number two is in
1:06:54
my opinion. He was number two to Malik
1:06:56
neighbors. He was there. Number two receivers. We
1:06:59
need a big time number one receiver that's
1:07:01
walking in here right now. The number one
1:07:03
with Josh Allen for a long time under
1:07:05
a rookie contract. Other than that, if you
1:07:07
don't do that, wait until the second round
1:07:09
and get you something else. Let's
1:07:12
talk about that one. Let's say cause I mean, Dufferton
1:07:15
was a number two to Jamar chase at LSU.
1:07:18
Yeah. I understand that. Right. But I'm sure if
1:07:20
we talked about, I could pull
1:07:22
up a lot of sorry. One
1:07:24
great one. When
1:07:31
we returned, we have some final thoughts. If we get
1:07:33
closer to the draft Jarvis land use number two to
1:07:35
Odell. I'm going to say that when you hear you
1:07:37
go. Two
1:07:42
five. You posted this today as you was reminiscing
1:07:45
man, the start of it all the Eagles draft
1:07:47
card, 2009 second round, LaShawn
1:07:49
McCoy running back, even though maybe I forgot
1:07:52
what position you play running back Pittsburgh overall
1:07:54
number 53. When you think about the draft,
1:07:56
when you think about that, what do you
1:07:58
think about? possible
1:08:00
from the value of something good. God
1:08:02
damn it! If it's gonna
1:08:04
be good, then it's gonna be me! And then
1:08:06
the story of the fight, you know? We gonna lost 29 at
1:08:09
first though. During the time of 29, I was on the
1:08:11
29 at first. And then God said no. Take that off. 25
1:08:14
is better. And 25
1:08:16
is a whole new person. Who was
1:08:18
25 you're with here, you remember still? Lorenzo Booker.
1:08:23
Bet he was nice. Bet he was running back. Running
1:08:26
back from all the state? You try to
1:08:28
pay him for it or not? Nah, I ain't paying him for it.
1:08:30
I'm better than you. You won't be here long. And
1:08:34
I was right! That's
1:08:36
the Eagles all time Russian leader. Family, the draft,
1:08:38
dreams will come true. Make sure you tune in
1:08:40
and watch these players live out the dreams of
1:08:42
their life. That's great though tonight.
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