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Hello,

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welcome back to Star Wars Minute. It's

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the daily podcast where we analyze, we scrutinize,

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and we celebrate the Star Wars movies one

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I'm Pete the Retailer from PeteTheRetailer.com.

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I'm Alex Robinson from AlexRobinson.fun.

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And today we are talking about Minute 138. That's

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right, we are 138. It's

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of Star Wars Episode IX, The Rise of

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Skywalker.

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Let's see, 138

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starts with the digital artist's

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kill screen. We'll talk about that in a

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second. And it ends

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with the visual effects crew. So

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kind of on brand. One, thematically, it's just

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one minute of the people who did this thing. Yes.

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People who made magic happen.

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Now I mentioned the digital artist's

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kill screen. I had to go back and see how

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long is

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it? How

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long is it? We measure it in screens.

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And I can't remember what the longest one we've

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had yet is. But this one is two and a half screens.

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Wow. So that's

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pretty good. To

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put that in another way, I looked

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up how many actual visual effects

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artists are on the film. Okay.

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And do you want to, I'll give you,

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it's a multiple choice. Okay, good.

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Were there 327, 420, 666, or 1,138? You're

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just trying to get the closest. Oh, okay. Just to

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get the closest. So 327, 420, 666, or 1,138?

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Let's go 327.

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You are incorrect. Actual number of visual

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effects people, 1,108 visual effects.

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people in the visual effects department.

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So I don't think that's all necessarily the kill

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screen people, but that's all the people in the visual effects.

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Well those are digital artists that are under the

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VFX banner. I think that's their own separate

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trunk in the end. That's good stuff. But

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yeah, over a thousand. So nuts.

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If we've got a two and a half screen

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worth of digital artists, there have got to be

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some Pete's and Peter's in there, haven't there? Although

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they tend to be young. Well, I'm gonna jump right into

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it. I hope you don't mind. But I've got the Pete list

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this week. Why we're here. Has an interesting

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variety. You know, normally, and so

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we got some Pete's. We got some, you

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know, Peter's every once in a while. Yesterday

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we had a Pierre, but here we got a good variety

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of, we've got international

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Pete's. Yeah, basically. It's

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from the Intercontinental Union of Pete's. We've

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got Peter Chesloff, digital

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artist. Peter Dalton with

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a U. Dalton. At

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the end? D-A-L-T-U-N?

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Oh weird. P-U-T-U-R. Peter.

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No, no, no. P-E-T-E-R. D-A-U.

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L-T-O-N. Okay. Oh, D-A-U. Okay.

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Peter Dwarin. D-W-O-R-N.

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O-R-I-N, rather. Then

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we got the

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next three. Well, two more in digital artists that

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are, here we go international. We got P-O-D-R. P-O-D-R-T-A-R.

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Wow, that's very international. Is that

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how you say it? P-O-D-R? P-O-D-R. I

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believe so. P-O-D-R? Am

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I wrong? P-O-D-R's out there? Russians, Colossus

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fans. I think I've read

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it, but I've never heard it spoken out loud.

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I think it's P-O-D-R. P-O-D-R.

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Okay. Yeah, like P-O-D-R.

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Kind of. P-O-D-R. I'm

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saying it more kind of Irish, I don't know why. I'm like P-O-D-R.

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P-O-D-R. P-O-D-R. Well,

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we've also got the kind of more... German

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Austrian version, Peter, P-I-E-T-E-R,

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Peter. How do you feel about those Peters?

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I knew one in high school, and

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we may have done this bit before, but I did. I knew one in high

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school and he was part of the club. They're totally

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welcome. Peter Warmington.

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So I feel, you know, close and cozy

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with him. So

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we got, yeah, five digital artists. And

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then additional VFX. So

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there's, you know, a lot of the visual effects

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things are broken into houses, broken into different

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effects houses that do work on, so they're given, oh, hey,

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we need to do this scene. Yes, farm it out to these

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guys. One

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of the additional visual effects houses

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or groups, gangs,

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I don't know what you call them, but they're called important

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looking pirates. And

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one of the important looking pirates, another

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international, let's go Pietro Ponte.

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Pietro Ponte. P-P? Yeah,

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that's Italian. So

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Pietro Ponte. Stone

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Bridge. Stone

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Bridge? Stone Bridge. Pietro,

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meaning stone and Ponte, meaning bridge,

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I believe. Oh, that's cool. Bridges,

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Stone Bridges, I'm not sure. I could be

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wrong. Stone

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Bridges was that show with Don Johnson,

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right? Yeah, where he was like a Walker,

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Texas Ranger type of guy. He

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was a curve off the bridge. So

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he was an important looking pirate from Italy, I'm

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assuming. And

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rounding it out, we had some Peters, Piotr,

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Pietro, Pietro, then we just got a

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Pete in the depth department. Always

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one of my favorites, the depth department. I

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wonder if he's sitting around being like, whoa, man. But

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Pete Neubauer. Pete

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Neubauer. Pete Neubauer from

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the depth department. Now. I

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don't know if we talked this

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has come up before but the

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you know I do it kind of made

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me forget that I had flipping

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through my notes to see if we had talked about this

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I don't think so I

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forgot this movie was out in 3d from

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the depth department oh yeah oh is that

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what the depth department does I don't know I think so

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I think they're in the they're in the they're

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the ones who make it they give it depth

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they do their post but it's three

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dimensionalized in post which bothers

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me you know I like

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I like 3d like that artificial 3d right

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where they yeah they just kind of like split it

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up and I like 3d movies

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I know I'm probably in the minority on that

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I like to go to see a movie in 3d I know you know

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there's accessibility issues

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with that and there's all kinds of other you know it's but

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I do like I like a good 3d movie but

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if I should be of 3d movies yeah I do

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I have this movie in 3d I own it but

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but it does bother me that they don't do them in they

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don't film them in 3d they film them and then kind

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of retrofit them into being 3d

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which seems like you

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know you're not you're not doing it to

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do it you're just doing it like has a gimmick

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it seems more like a gimmick if you're just doing it afterwards

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to port

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it into 3d yeah so I'm not

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I don't know I'm not into not that into movies

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where it's just like oh we filmed it regular and then made it

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3d do they still um

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I lost track after kovid do they still

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do 3d movies I know the movie industry

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is in kind of rough shape at the moment but like was

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Barbie in 3d I

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think there are some definitely that pop up

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in 3d and you

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can do like real 3d and then there's like the 4d thing

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like I bet you I bet there was like you could have gone

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to see the Ninja Turtles movie maybe in 3d see

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that's computer generated you know animated movies

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that or whether computer generated or

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not they they have

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you know they have a well I don't

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know if you can do it with but computer-generated movies

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they can just render it in 3d and they can be like add

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another camera yeah you

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know and and do

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I mean it not just it's not as easy as

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it just okay hit a button but it's

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easier to go back and be like well yeah we can make it real

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you know 3d just by adding another camera

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to each scene each shot whatever does

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take or I'm not belittling the amount of work that goes into it but

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much easier I think then going

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back and making let's say a 3d version of the Wizard

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of Oz which I also own you

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know it seems seems odd I

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don't think it's a matter of like you're disparaging their

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work so much as just the it's

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not the it

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will be better done the other way intentionally

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3d you know like avatar or whatever

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where it's made to be a 3d movie so

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yeah yeah

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I never saw the second avatar I'm waiting for

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the third one to come out so that I I'm assuming

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they'll re-release the first and the second one so

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maybe you go see the second one and then or the you know

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what doesn't even matter I'm sure the plot

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of the third one I'm sure I could probably piece it together pretty

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easily you know my for

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some reason I forgot why this I forgot

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how it happened but Ella and DTR

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went to go see the second avatar

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movie not having DTR

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has never seen the first one sure but

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was it was out and it was something they were out on

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like you know a date kind of a thing

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and they went to go see that so she's told me about

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it a couple times and has like a fondness for

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it but I don't know yeah

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we'll see what we'll see what happens if they if they do come

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out with a third one and have come out they all

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come out in theaters again that might be a fun thing

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to do because I don't think

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of them as I don't think of them as like movies I think

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of them as like like

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going on a 3d ride yeah yeah the characters

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yeah exactly I'm not here for character

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development I'm just here to watch you know Blue

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Monkey's jumping all over yeah Although

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I might like, like, glee.

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Um, I was going to say, um, I

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wouldn't, you know, like you don't watch star tours at home, but I would

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absolutely, I think watch star tours at home. So

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I'm sure it's on YouTube if you want to probably. Yeah.

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Disney. Oh, I guess they don't want to, I was going to say Disney plus

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should offer that as a thing, but they don't want

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to take away business from me. I don't know. That

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would be a fun thing. If it like kind of randomized every

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time you hit play and you

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know, it encouraged, they

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should think about that. Yeah. Uh,

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was that it for the Pete's? That's it for the Pete's.

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Um, and my, my 3d movie

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talk, I like 3d. So

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far, I feel like this, this movie has not had as many Pete's

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as I would have thought. Maybe hopefully future minutes

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will, we'll have to look out for

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tomorrow. Oh boy. It's

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a Pete warning. Uh,

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I also want to call attention to two other visual effects,

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um, companies that were listed here, one of them

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additional visual effects by the Tippett

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studio, of course, Phil Tippett,

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one of the grand old men of star

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Wars animation and, um,

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additional scanning services were provided

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by we shoot lasers. So

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that was a pretty cool name for a company,

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especially working out of star Wars, thanks.

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So, uh,

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yeah. Well, that's all I have

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that is specific to this minute.

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Do you have anything else? Uh, no,

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I mean, it's mainly, you know, digital and visual effects

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artists. And you know, they do a, they do a great

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job and there's not that much to, uh, dig

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into with

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them with that. What about you? Do

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you have any more, uh, kind of anything specific

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to this minute, but I did come, I did come up with a,

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um, star Wars trivia quiz.

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If you want, if you want to do that, um, sure. Of

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course. I'm only down for a quiz. And

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this covers the whole, I was going to make

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it very not rise of skywalkers specific, but I

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feel like we kind of just did that recently. So I

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decided to make it all the, it covers the

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whole, now they can't blow up the death star. That

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Jafjir Jarad is a genius. I'm telling you.

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What type of dog breed inspired Chewbacca?

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Hmm I know the story although

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I know that we're not allowed to say that Chewbacca

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is Hansela's dog But

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I want is it a Malamute? Alaskan

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Malamute? Yeah, all right What

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system did the Falcon gang consider

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going to before heading to the Lando system?

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The Inuit system is not much there Yeah,

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very good What

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are the dots where they go right isn't isn't best

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been in the Inuit system? No no

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no they you're right Okay, the Inuit

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system and Leia says there's not much there right right

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here's something Lando Lando What

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are the dying words of Padme Skywalker?

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Does she say something beyond Luke Leia

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Yes Her

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last words are to Obi-Wan hmm

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not to the droid I Am

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relaxing that's a she says that

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you die. Yeah, I can feel

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my heart breaking ow ow Mmm,

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I don't know this is I would

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defer to you normally because it's a Keep

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wanting go right I

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don't think I would have gotten this one I probably would have said along

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with what you said about mmm about Luke and Leia

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But it's I know there is the

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line before that is Obi-Wan. There's still good in

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him. I know there is Turns

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her head to the side and sticks out her tongue right again

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as best best represented in the Cut

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not the cutscenes, but the the kind of animation,

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you know interscenes but

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from the Lego Skywalker

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Lego Star Wars Yeah

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Where it's just you know because there's no they don't talk

13:55

in that they're just kind of they're miming

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it all out And so you see and

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she's on the table And she's like we're in the obi-wan

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is there you know kind of like them and then You

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think I think they hold hands for a second, then you basically

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do it And

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then her eyes turn to X's and that's it cut

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Wait, I thought those were babies coming out. Yeah,

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oh so she dies right after I got it. Yeah,

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that's really funny I gotta play that I

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keep me to check out that game on the The

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I I'm over I have it on the switch we

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could do that Maybe we'll live stream that down that

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yeah people should go to star was mad that conflux

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patreon at sea Hmm that that

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comes to fruition as of 30 BBY.

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Hmm. What was Annie's midichlorian

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count? fan of menace question

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for you Off

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the charts Coming

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in at number one, it's Anakin Skywalker.

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I want to say 10,000 but that's that's 10,000 yeah

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could almost buy

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her own ship for that 50,000 50 20,000 20,000 20,000 the

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difference So

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Yeah, no update on whether or not him getting his limbs

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chopped off I guess do I wonder

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if midichlorian counts kind of I think

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I can lean over time Yeah,

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but isn't it like you know parts per million or

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something like that? So it wouldn't I Don't

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know tough to they don't know the science

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it's junk science. Anyway, George Lucas said so

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some people believe in that That's

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why I put it in the movie. So that's something

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that would be totally not true. You just put it in the movie

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as a as a diversion

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I'm

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Running a Jedi went through like menopause

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if they're like when they get older and they start losing

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their force powers and stuff But obviously Obi-Wan

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Obi-Wan Kenobi is like 40 when we see That's

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Jerry. Yeah So

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but Yoda then again, yeah, it was the oldest

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one there is and he's just maybe it's the opposite the older

15:54

you get the more ridiculous you concentrate

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it to Well along similar

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lines, what is the?

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not escape that okay it's his death so it's not

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some random imperial it is a specific

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Imperial is it was it no

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no I don't say that oh the

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random part is right it's a stormtrooper it's

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a random rebel bomber because

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ships are coming to attack the thing in

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the crossfire so

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ironic that he died at the hands

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the man who gave the plans to the rebels right

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is

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the first one to die so why didn't he just I'm sure we

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covered this a couple of years ago but

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in this message why didn't you just say there's a small

18:32

thermal exhaust port on the ship on the

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Death Star go reach that if you reach that you'll

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blow it up why did you have to just give them the plans

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and not like give

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them the information they need why why yeah

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anyway I know it yeah I don't know they need a I think

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I don't think he had the whole thing planned out of how they

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do it cuz remember when they get the plans they analyze the plans

18:50

and come up with the thing he just said like hey look

18:52

this the way that they put

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it a week easily yeah so

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it could easily be you know a chain reaction

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could be started I don't know you know

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yeah I

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don't know anyway it but

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that of course is a problem of

19:09

going back and doing things later yeah

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yeah because yeah so

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anyway still like rug one still a good movie well

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that wraps up the trivia questions would you like

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to hear some IMDB trivia oh

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right no I thought that was IMDB

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trivia I forgot no no this will have your this

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is less of a quiz this is more of a me sitting back yeah this is

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good information yeah you get to relax and

19:29

I mean some of them are questions but for instance

19:32

what Lord of the Rings actors have

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appeared in a Star War hmm

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um let's

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see ambi circus

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any circus is correct not

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pennies boat not

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pennies boat is correct hmm

19:57

you get double credit for Andy circus cuz he's now

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been in two different Star Wars.

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Christopher Lee, Christopher

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Lee, Andy Serkis, Christoph

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Furley, and the Hobbit.

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That's it? The last two were kind of controversial

20:14

or not, or maybe

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you have to put an asterisk next. Oh boy, okay.

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So I don't know your level of LOTR

20:22

fandom or not. So. How does it go into

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like, were they in the... I

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don't know. Were they on like the... Didn't

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they make a show? Wasn't there a show? There was a show. One

20:33

actor only appeared in the extended

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edition. So I don't know if you ever... I mean, that's the version

20:38

of record, I think. For most people, if you ask them, they would say

20:40

the extended version. Want

20:42

me to tell you who it was? Yes.

20:46

Bruce Spence. Bruce

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Spence, most famous for playing the guy in

20:51

the Mad Max, the helicopter guy. Oh

20:54

yeah. He also played the

20:58

Utapauin guy in Christ

21:00

of War and Obi-Wan with the thief, and also

21:02

he played another similar mouthy

21:05

character in Return of the King.

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He played the Mouth of Sauron. Yes. I

21:10

remember that now. So there you go.

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I remember that Mouth of Sauron being one of the best

21:16

additional scenes that I've seen in a

21:18

film. You know, although

21:21

actually, the Lord of the Rings had a lot of additional material

21:23

that I thought was good. Have I ever

21:26

seen the extended version of Return of the

21:28

King? I don't know. I was

21:30

shocked at one point, and for all I know, he

21:32

still... Ranky still has not seen it. And I was like,

21:34

that's crazy. You...

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I don't know.

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Anyway. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a fantasy

21:39

guy. I liked fellowship

21:41

a lot, and then the other two kind of didn't

21:44

do much for me. The diminishing returns a little bit.

21:46

And

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so I've seen definitely the extended version of that, but I don't

21:50

know if I've ever sat and watched the extended version

21:53

of Return of the King. The

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other asterisk is Carl

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Urban. Bones himself. Oh

22:02

right. Because he's credited as additional

22:04

voices and there's also someone saying

22:07

that he's a background person but this does

22:09

not seem to be verified by anything. A stormtrooper

22:11

or something? Yeah. I lost track of

22:13

all the celebrity. I think every stormtrooper was played by

22:15

a celebrity. That should have been the end of the movie is every stormtrooper

22:18

taking their helmet off and you know, oh look it's that guy,

22:20

oh my gosh look it's Ricky Gervais

22:23

or whoever. Hmm.

22:26

I'm gonna quickly look up Carl

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Urban. Carl? We

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were talking about Carl. Yeah. Oh yeah that's

22:34

a Carl with a K though.

22:36

Oh yeah.

22:37

That's the cool little Carl. Yes, Carl

22:40

Urban was a stormtrooper

22:42

in Rise of

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Skywalker. There you go. Oh okay. He,

22:50

his voice actually made the cut as well with his only

22:52

line being Knights of Ren. He's

22:54

the one who says Knights of Ren and the other one says Ghouls, I

22:57

guess. Oh okay. That's cool. So

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there you go. So he did play the stormtrooper

23:03

and did the voice of the stormtrooper.

23:05

Yep.

23:08

Carl Urban, he's appeared in a bunch of franchises

23:11

now. Star Trek, Judge Dredd,

23:13

Marvel. The contest of the franchise? Well,

23:17

the Wannabe franchise. Yeah, we just had a whole conversation

23:19

about Judge Dredd over on the discourse.

23:21

Yeah, on the discourse. Yeah. Never been a, I

23:24

love the way he looks, never really got into the comics.

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Okay.

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One more? Sure, why not? Billy

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Lord. Yes. Of course, Lucerne, Kill Comics

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herself. Age 26 in

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this film, the same age Carrie Fisher

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was in Return of the Jedi. Hey,

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look at that. That's a, and of course she dresses

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up as her in wearing her Return of the Jedi

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stuff later. In the movie, I mean,

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not later. Not when I go home. Yeah.

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So although who knows? So that'll

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wrap up today's. IMDB trivia

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taken with a grain of salt.

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Thanks IMDB.

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Well, did we have anything

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about all the stuff. This

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week's going to go pretty much like this. A

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little bit of nitpicking in the credits, poking

24:20

some fun, having

24:22

some fun with that and then a little bit of just going off

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