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Hey

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buddy, welcome to another episode of Star

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Wars Minute. It's the daily

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podcast where we analyze, scrutinize,

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and celebrate the rise of

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I'm Alex Robinson. My website is alexrobinson.fun.

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I'm Pete the Retailer. My website is petethetailer.fun.

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And today we are discussing Minute 141 of The Rise of Skywalker.

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141 starts off

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with a thank you to Transport Office

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Coordinator Ben C. Vokes. Good

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job Ben.

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And it ends a minute later letting us

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know that the song Lido Hey

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was written by Lin Manuel

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Miranda and J.J. Abrams. He's

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like triple dipping that guy. He's got voice credits,

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directing credits. He's doing everything. Yes.

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And I bet he does

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get residuals from all different fronts for that.

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He gets directing residuals, acting residuals,

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and songwriting

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residuals off the movie. So he's getting

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it wherever he can. He's a producer too.

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His father's in it. There

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you go. I think he's stealing

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his checks. Well,

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I've got nothing for this other than my

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list of Pete's. We've got, we've been tracking the

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Pete's. I think this is the second most

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number of Pete's in the movie

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in this minute. Do we

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have anything else credit wise we want to talk about

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first before we can jump into the Pete's?

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Well, this is where, if you recall

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last when we were doing, I think it was The Last Jedi,

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was the first time we started getting outraged at

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people's,

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like the vice president of production

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and sales was, you know, and

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we learned that these were all dictated

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by contracts. Like if you do work for them,

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you get 10 slots.

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You can fill them in however you want

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Here are some of the Lucasfilm people credited mm-hmm

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who I'm like really more so than the musicians

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the vice president of finance the principal

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counsels supervisor of asset

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management at senior vice

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president of licensing and franchise

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like Hmm.

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I mean you get a Star Wars so Yeah,

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that's true. You know licensing and franchise is kind

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of that should be number one. Yeah

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Well, Disney Studios you have the executive

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vice president of marketing the vice president of publicity

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so But here are some

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jobs that I thought were like okay.

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These are more along the lines of what we were doing last week of cool

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jobs

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First all these end credits provided by scarlet

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letters name for a digital

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letter company. I bet they know what it means

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Yes

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One of the Lucasfilm credits is the keeper

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of the holo-cron. Yes,

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we learn she Leland she

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yes Him

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and Pablo Hidalgo Of course are the keeper

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of the ones who keep continuity in

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order and get to name all these characters and so

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on now I have I have

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a friend who used

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to work with Ella a friend of ours and

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whenever we sometimes

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we'll go hang out with him and his friends and and

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Any time I get into a conversation about what I do with

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them it and everyone somebody be like, oh, you know we

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went to school with with a guy

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who's You

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know and either they say like oh, yeah our friend Leland

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cheese Oh, yeah, the keeper of the holo-cron or

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they'll say like we got a friend who works for Star Wars and

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his job is Keeper of the holo-cron. I'm like,

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I can't Leland cheese So like they went they

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know him they went to school them and they're always like Wow

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Wow that I know who that is It's

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a great credit. Yeah, and

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I have not been at one of these things and spoken

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to Leilin she so I don't think they necessarily

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Keep tabs What would you

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say to him? I don't think I'd be still in touch with

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him, but. What would you say to him if you were at

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one of these parent-teacher things and suddenly you

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were hanging out with Lila G? Would you say,

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I do a Star Wars podcast? Would you invite

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him on the show? Well specifically with him,

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I'd be like, oh hey, we know, I list off some

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of the same people that we know. Okay. And

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then be like, yeah, it came up because I do a Star Wars.

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That's when you would say it off. Yeah, I do

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a Star Wars. That's when he would slowly start

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to back away. Well

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maybe when you see him, you can mention

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the fact that in the television

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program Resistance, the

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ill-fated Resistance, there is a character named Leechee

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named in honor of Leland Chee. He

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did the temporary voice track for

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the character, but then was replaced by Fred

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Armisen. So. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

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it's a... Yeah. So

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then we have Leland Chee. The

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drummer for... It's been a rotating

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position since the 80s, but the drummer for Devo,

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he's also been replaced by Fred Armisen at one point. Oh,

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really? I

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think it's more of a thing, and once they lost

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their... Well, not their original drummer, but the drummer

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of note. Originally their drummer was the

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third mother's brother. And

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then... Okay. Alan Myers was

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their drummer throughout their heyday, the

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peak Devo. And

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then since then it's been kind of a... Not a rotating

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cast, but they've gone through a handful of drummers.

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Yeah. I feel like drummers... Off the

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top of my head, I feel like drummers are the most frequently...

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We have to get a replacement for this. Yeah.

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You know. So Ringo,

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of course, hanging on. Some

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other jobs, people I thought... Karen

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Ireland

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was the unit nurse. So

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I'm sure a lot of people were thankful to see her. She

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was also the unit nurse on Rogue One, Solo,

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Detective Pikachu, and Black Widow.

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Hmm. Ah, Ahmed...

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Which set do you think had... the most visits to the nurse

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to the nurses office which

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which of those shoots I

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don't think detective Pikachu had children on set

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otherwise I would say maybe you know children are clumsy

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yeah maybe

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they would do it but children are that's my

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favorite TV show back in the day children

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are clumsy I

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think I mentioned this before but man I against

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my better judgment I do I follow an Instagram account

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called kids getting hurt and

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it's like luckily each one is you know like

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has a you know in the notes it's

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like dad said he was okay but like each one

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is just kids just like eating it just totally you

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know like like all the like going down the

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driveway on a big wheel and falling backwards

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or trying to jump into the pool and missing and hitting the

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patio instead or like all kinds of do you

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think that's like the kind of yin-yang where

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you're a loving father but also some part of you know

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some part of you is like you know it's

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cathartic in that I get to see the like

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all the like you know don't worry mom said she's okay

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you know that kind of a thing like the end I'm like okay well if that

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you get the bad that happens and

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then I don't feel so worried

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about my own you know I'm worried

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I'm not gonna be like yeah it's okay just

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film it put it on Instagram but I'm

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a little bit like okay well if they fall off this thing and

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I'm not the only one in the world who that has

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happened to assuming one

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of your children was you

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know in an incident but was

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okay would you consider submitting

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your video to

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possibly okay I mean

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if it was funny enough yeah

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also is this one guy doing them all or

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he's collating collecting

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people submit them because yeah

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you hear about all those awful YouTube stories but people

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turn you know turning their kids into YouTube

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oh yeah

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Ahmed gel bush was the drone

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assistant hmm do you think

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that means he is a drone who's also an assistant

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He's going to redundant drone assistance. I

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think he was just saying like, Hey, you want me to get

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a cup of coffee? I

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think he was helping the guy who was saying that. Oh,

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right, right. He's the drone assistant. He's like, do you

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want any? Coffee.

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Coffee.

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Um,

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test pilot

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Peter Gillian. He's on my

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list. Oh yeah, I shouldn't

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have brought that up. It's okay. He's

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fantastic. Uh,

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like if you said like, Oh yeah,

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I mean, um, uh, I've got

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a credit in the new star wars test pilot.

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Oh, you played a test. No, I was the test pilot. I'm

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the test pilot. Uh, the

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light energy is your question. Who went to go see the unit nurse

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the most the test pilot. I'm

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sure. Why do they have a test pilot?

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I mean, I guess if they have a, any

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aerial, maybe it was with drones. Maybe

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it wasn't. A little bit, but, or if they had anything

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kind of like flying or maybe

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to set up, you know, aerial shots, like helicopter

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shot or something like that, maybe they needed to do set

9:06

up the rigging first and they have somebody just fly it over

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first. Just be like, okay. Yeah. Like

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somebody who's kind of an expert on why

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coming out of control, you know, like problems.

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Yeah. Good at aerial

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problem solving. And then they're like, all right, it works with the camera

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on that side. You just have to tilt it this way a little bit. And then

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they, then the other cameraman pilot goes in. I

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don't know. Yeah. I

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bet Harrison Ford wanted to be the test pilot. He

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was famous for his airline

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stunts. Horses

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provided by Devil's Horseman. That's

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the, like what are those things called again?

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The Orbox. Orbox, right.

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Not fan fears, much as I wanted them to be.

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That is the last of my specific

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to the credits. I did ask how

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much longer would the A New Hope credits

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be if they were done in the modern style?

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Of course we have no, yeah. of knowing but you know back

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then I feel like there is less. How long

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are the credits for Star Wars? You

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want me to look it up? Yes. I'm

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getting I guess not more than five minutes. Well

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let's see. Do you want to take a wager?

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I would say a little bit more

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than, I don't know, maybe not because maybe

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we started, I'm trying to remember what our season was like

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but that was so long ago, who knows. Yeah, long

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time. Let's

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see. I almost said the name

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of the URL where we watch our videos out loud

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and that would have been better.

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Oh boy. You would not want that. Original

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recipe Star Wars. No

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special edition, no nothing. Skip

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to the end and we're talking about,

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let's see, last, remember how long that

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is? How long what is? Star

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Wars. 123 minutes. Plus 122. Oh

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sorry. I'm a poser.

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Sorry.

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I'm a wedge. Okay

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so you may be correct. Let's

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see.

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They're getting medals now in 118. Yeah,

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and the credits start in the middle of 118. And

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it ends on 122. And it ends on 122. So half of 118, yeah.

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119, 120, 121, 122. Three and a half minutes.

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We'll call it an even four minutes. Well because I

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think 122 is just a few seconds long also if

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I recall correctly. We'll call it three

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minutes. Seven seconds of black for

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a minute 122. But still.

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A lot different back

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then. So yeah I guess that makes it like you know

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back when I was encouraged, I've mentioned this

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before as a kid I was encouraged to stick around and watch the

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credits. Yeah. And you know when

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they're four minutes long that's different. This is we got

11:54

two weeks going on here. Yeah

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I really like your QR code. idea

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where they'll just show a big QR code on the screen

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you scan it and then and then

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you can see the whole list of credits. Or

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I think give out a like a playbill for movies we need

12:09

to go back to that like a program. Oh yeah.

12:13

Let's figure out how to make it worse for the environment.

12:16

What's the worst way that we can do it? Can we

12:18

make the playbills printed on plastic? Hmm.

12:21

Slims of plastic. Well

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I have here the remaining trivia. Oh do

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you want to do Pete's first? Do your piece. Yeah let me let me hit

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the list of Pete's here. We already got one of them but I'll

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back up in order of appearance within

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the credits I think. In the

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group of unit drivers, Peter

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Tabeki is one of those. Driving units.

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Standby vehicles by Lays International

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UK. Is that

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LA-Z-E or LA-Y-S? LA-Y-S

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like the chips. Oh.

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Let's.

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But Peter Nerey is one of those.

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Under listed under that, Standby Vehicles

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by Lays International. Peter Nerey is one a member

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of Lays International UK I guess. You

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seem suspicious of this like it's some kind of shell

13:06

like a like

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a con going on. There's

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no Lays truck company. It's

13:16

a multi-million dollar graft. It's

13:18

going to turn out to be JJ Abrams. Using

13:21

an alias. There you go. He's

13:23

getting it everywhere he can. Yeah. He's

13:25

triple. Going back to the

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Lucasfilm studio team.

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We got one Pete Vilmer.

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I think we've mentioned him before because it is tempting

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to say his last name like Fred Flintstone shouting. Mm-hmm.

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We got Standby

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Carpenter. Standby Carpenter. Pete

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Stewart. Pete

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Stewart is Standby Carpenter. He's ready

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to go on in case Karen can't play the drums and

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sing at the same time. And his

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brother is Pete Stewart

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who's a part-time car... wait. Pete Carpenter.

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And then he is a steward. He's

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a part. Standby steward, yeah. Standby

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steward. You know what steward? I like

14:09

you. Transportation coordinators.

14:12

One of them is Peter Williams. Hmm. You

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think he is the son of John Williams? Oh,

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maybe. I'm assuming anyone with a name that

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matches someone else is just got the job

14:23

because they are related to that person. And

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like that's like he was the guy who like

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drove John Williams on to set.

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He got his son or his grandson or whatever to drive

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him to set. So then he was like, well, you

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get a credit for that. So you'll be a transportation

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coordinator. Let's make it his son

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because it's funnier if it's a 70 year

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old man driving a 90 year old man to work. Right,

14:46

yeah.

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And

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we got test pilot, Peter Gillan,

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we mentioned him. Gillan. Gillan.

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And then within that same kind of aerial

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unit, shot over technician.

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Shot over? Shot over technician.

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S-H-O-T space O-V-E-R. No

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space, I don't believe. Oh, shot

15:12

over. Shot over. The hunt for Brad

15:15

to shot over. I

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believe shot over technician Peter

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Graf. Which

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then, who played tackleberry in

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the Pac Academy movies? Wasn't that the? I

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don't know. Because that made me think of like, I don't know.

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Yeah, I'm not looking that up. I'm looking at

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the. Or I'll look at them. I'm

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looking up making double checking my spelling on shot

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over technician. But

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yeah, we. I

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don't know what that person does. Unit

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drivers. We had a little credit

15:54

for minibus drivers, which made me happy. I

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wonder who was riding the minibus. David

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Graf. David Graf. So this is

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Peter Graf, a shot over technician. There's

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some kind of connection there. You can see what I'm

16:06

going for. A tackleberry shot a lot of things. This is

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a shot over technician. Do

16:11

you remember what a tackleberry's first name is? It

16:15

was a Eugene? Eugene. You

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are a super fan of tackleberry. You're in the 1%

16:20

percentile. You're

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in the 1% people

16:25

who know things about tackleberry.

16:27

About police academy. Not

16:29

police academy, just specifically tackleberry. Yeah,

16:32

you're a super fan. Yeah,

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let's see. Unit, let's

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see, prop man. We got

16:40

SFX technicians and assistants. Aerial

16:42

unit, here we go. Shot

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over technician. One

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word, shot over technician. One word, Peter

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Graf. Listed right below test pilot

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Peter Geelen. I wonder

16:54

if shot over is some kind of

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filming thing. Shot over is the

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software that they attach to the bottom of

17:03

the helicopter and then... You

17:05

know what? You're right. Because of the volume.

17:07

Two or three things below that we get.

17:10

Shot over stabilized camera systems.

17:14

Oh, okay. Team 5 LLC.

17:16

I kept seeing people

17:18

credited with something called lolly. Like

17:21

lolly operator. Lolly, you know, mechanic.

17:24

And I was like, what is that? And it turned out to be some

17:26

kind of software, you know.

17:28

Oh, okay. It wasn't like

17:31

a little cartoon kid with a lollipop. I

17:35

don't think they call that those in England. So

17:41

that's it for the peeps. That's it for the peeps in

17:43

the whole movie, actually. Spoiler alert,

17:45

nobody coming in tomorrow. So the

17:47

last peep with Peter Graf,

17:50

star of Police Academy movies.

17:54

Goodbye, funny man. Well,

17:56

in that case, I have some IMDb

17:59

Trivial left. over from last week. Oh

18:01

sure. It'll be the clearinghouse for that sort

18:03

of thing. I'm ready for some leftovers.

18:06

Carrie Fisher, we mentioned, she gets top billing

18:09

in the film. She's

18:11

actually the second actress to get top billing

18:13

in a Star War. Hmm.

18:20

Interesting. Oh, does Jyn

18:23

Erso get top billing in Rogue One?

18:25

She does Felicity Jones.

18:27

Is that her name? I don't

18:30

know. Sure. Anyway.

18:33

I know Tackleberry is first name, but I can't remember that actress

18:35

in a movie we talked about last year or two

18:37

years ago. Ira Bell. That's how we know her better as Ira Bell. As if the presence

18:47

of Penny's Boat

18:49

Hobbit was not infuriating enough, according

18:52

to IMDb,

18:55

Dominic Monaghan and JJ

18:57

Abrams were watching the World Cup

19:00

and they made a bet. And the bet was

19:03

if your team wins, you get to be in the new

19:05

Star Wars movie. Really? And that

19:07

is how he, according to the IMDb

19:10

trivia section, that is how he wound up with

19:12

the job. I almost think it's put there just

19:14

to make nerds even angrier. Yeah.

19:17

And he'd never seen a Star Wars before. Yeah.

19:19

You just heard it was something

19:21

fun to do. So

19:24

yeah, that's interesting. What year

19:26

was that? Was it 2018? Rise

19:28

of Skywalker,

19:31

he met in 19. Yeah, so that's probably

19:33

so we

19:36

can assume that that what

19:39

was JJ rooting for America? I

19:42

should hope so. I'm

19:47

sorry. Spoiler

19:49

alert, I never root for America. And sometimes

19:51

I'll root for America in definitely

19:55

in women's sports, I'll root for America. But I feel like rooting

19:57

for America in men's sports

19:59

was like double. Which

22:00

is why he was, um, what I like

22:02

about that theory is it, it's, it indicates

22:05

that the movie is filmed in order and it's only at the

22:07

end that they couldn't, you know what

22:09

I mean? Right. Like,

22:11

uh, but apparently, uh, Matt Wood told a story

22:13

where, um, because of the last minute script

22:16

changes, uh, Adam

22:18

Driver's back in New York and so Adam

22:21

Driver had to put on the

22:24

helmet and then record himself in

22:26

a closet saying lines for,

22:29

for that were added at the end. So,

22:32

uh, now I want to go back and see which scenes

22:35

of him wearing a helmet that they could, oh, that must've

22:37

been something that they put in, you know, after the fact.

22:40

So,

22:40

um,

22:41

it's like, you know, like, it's like, you know,

22:44

we're a dyad. Mom, are you using the vacuum?

22:49

You still lives with his mom. Yeah,

22:51

I do.

22:53

Um, yes. That

22:56

doesn't surprise me that I, I, I

22:58

wasn't blaming him this whole time. I was just thinking that

23:00

also there were, it seems like

23:02

there were a lot of changes, particularly with the ending with

23:05

how things were going to go. So I wonder if

23:07

that's why they had Adam Driver wear the mask

23:09

because it'll be like, it'll be a lot easier to change dialogue

23:11

after the fact. If we don't have the lip sync with

23:13

anyone's, you know, matter of fact, let's have him put it back

23:15

on. Let's make a new mask for Ben Solo.

23:19

Yes.

23:20

Um, some other people who are apparent

23:23

with credited with being in background

23:25

and extras and stuff, uh, designer

23:28

chip kid. Oh yeah. Jamie

23:30

Oliver, who I believe is a chef

23:33

of some kind. Okay. Uh, Dimitri

23:35

Vegas, the Vaios,

23:38

sorry, uh, Vegas, if I'm not pronouncing

23:40

that correctly. Uh,

23:42

a rapper by the name of Michael Dapah,

23:45

the AP A A

23:47

H. Hmm. And, uh,

23:50

Carl Urban, in

23:52

the background, he's the only

23:54

person on the JJ, he's the only one who has more credits

23:56

than the film than, uh,

23:58

Carl Urban.

24:01

That

24:03

is interesting. He's um... Which

24:07

parts? Vegas? Well,

24:10

who gets credited with their kind

24:12

of cameo roles and who doesn't? Because those are

24:14

also... I don't know. Maybe

24:17

not. Maybe everybody's credited with their... the

24:19

people that they sneak in. It's

24:22

hard to say because I feel

24:25

like um... You

24:27

know, over on Godfather Minute, plug,

24:31

the credits for Godfather movies are like

24:33

two minutes long. They barely credit

24:35

anyone. But if you go to the IMDB page,

24:37

like the actors, there's tons of uncredited

24:40

actors. So I'm not sure how... what

24:42

the rules are for how uncredited actors

24:45

are later credited on IMDB.

24:48

Is this just the actors putting themselves in? I don't

24:50

know.

24:51

Yeah, wasn't there some discussion as

24:53

to whether or not the... there's like

24:55

one guy who said he played three or four different parts in the original

24:57

Star Wars. And there's some discussion as to whether or not

25:00

he really was. I think there's some... Yeah.

25:03

Especially with like stormtroopers and stuff. People are like,

25:05

oh yeah, that's me. Oh yeah, totally. It

25:08

turns out it's actually an escaped prisoner

25:10

pretending to be a shanana. His

25:14

that I thought was kind of interesting. You know, we... it's

25:17

been discussed that of the Disney

25:20

trilogy. The first one is on Solo.

25:22

Second was Luke Skywalker. The last one was supposed to be Carrie

25:24

Fisher.

25:28

So someone

25:31

pointed out retroactively in

25:33

the original Star Wars,

25:36

in each of the original Star Wars, Luke

25:38

Skywalker has to establish

25:41

a relationship with a prequel character.

25:45

First one, he meets up with Obi-Wan Kenobi.

25:47

Second one is where he meets up with

25:51

Yoda. And then the third

25:54

one, he meets the Emperor. So

25:56

I thought that was kind of cool that it retroactively...

25:59

like obviously that was a pretty cool... I wasn't playing,

26:01

I was like, right. But

26:04

I think that's kind of a cool, you

26:06

know, feature, I guess. Yeah. It's

26:10

like poetry.

26:13

And finally, my last

26:15

bit of trivia. I was going to try

26:17

to tie that into what I guess

26:19

it's based on the prequels. I was like, when does that tie

26:22

into the, but you just said that the

26:24

new ones, each one is kind of featuring

26:27

an original trilogy character.

26:30

Right. It's like

26:32

the same structure of

26:34

taking three characters from the previous trilogy

26:36

and now making them. So we can

26:39

only hope that in the new Rey movies, but

26:41

then we start out with Rey, and then in the second

26:43

one she'll meet

26:44

Poe or Finn.

26:46

I guess to really maintain it, it would have to

26:49

be a new character who would then meet Rey,

26:51

and then the new character. Right, right, right.

26:54

Right, yeah. Let's say, who's it? Rose

26:58

Tico. And then the third one would be

27:01

hooking up with Zory Bliss. There

27:03

you go. So each character would...

27:05

Welcome back to hooking up with Zory Bliss.

27:08

I'm your host, Zory Bliss. I hope

27:11

that any sequels will

27:13

try to retroactively, like

27:15

we'll see

27:17

Rose Tico's children or like characters

27:20

that were minor characters in this, I want to see

27:23

turned into bigger characters so that

27:25

they'll become... Let's not say minor, let's say underdeveloped characters

27:27

from this. Underdeveloped characters, yes.

27:31

I meant the minor characters from Solo

27:33

when they were at the... Oh, the one that's underground,

27:36

yeah. Yeah, that's what I meant. My

27:39

last bit is that

27:41

one of the working titles was Star Wars,

27:44

The Last Hope. Hmm. Who

27:46

knows if it was true or not? I feel like they

27:48

just did The Last Jedi, so it seems like The Last Hope. It's unlikely to me

27:50

that they would have used that. Obviously they didn't,

27:53

so... Yeah. Do you

27:55

think the same... I was seriously considered. I

27:57

wonder if, like, how...

28:01

how long into the process they

28:03

came up with title ideas.

28:06

You know what I mean? Because even before, like, because

28:09

they knew, you know, they had points, story points

28:11

that they wanted to hit before

28:14

they did any of the scripting. They had like, okay, we're

28:16

gonna do a new trilogy. We're gonna, here's what's

28:18

gonna happen. This, this, this, this. And

28:21

so do you think that they had like, okay, you

28:24

know, Return of the Force,

28:26

I'm sure, was considered or something like that for the first

28:29

one. You know, they're like, oh, well, you

28:31

know, they probably thought, you know, went through all these iterations

28:33

of like, okay, we'll have this be the title

28:35

for that. I think, you know, we've said it before, I

28:38

think there's a couple of different, a

28:40

couple of missteps in,

28:45

not artistically, but just kind of conceptually with

28:47

The Last Jedi and having the middle one be called

28:50

The Last is one of them.

28:52

Like, that's, that's, but that's kind of appropriate

28:55

since that, that was the movie that kind of, Yeah.

28:58

acted like it was the last movie, the trilogy. And

29:00

then you're like, all right, see what you're gonna

29:02

do. Yes,

29:04

that's funny. I feel like they

29:06

just fed a bunch of Star Wars names into a

29:09

like random generator and it's just, you

29:11

know, they took,

29:16

I mean, to give George Lucas credit, he,

29:18

other than Revenge of the Sith, although Sith,

29:21

yeah, I was gonna say, he introduced

29:24

a new noun in each of the, like

29:27

the Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones,

29:30

and I guess Revenge of the Sith, that

29:32

was kind of a Star Wars word, but. Yeah, but I

29:34

mean, Clones were mentioned too, but it wasn't like, wasn't

29:38

like it was already in a title, whereas it was

29:40

nothing from the original trilogy. Certainly not, you

29:42

know, Sith has never spoken in the, original

29:45

trilogy.

29:46

Right.

29:49

But the Disney ones were a lot more conservative with

29:52

Force. Force, Jedi. Jedi,

29:54

Skywalker. They're like, when

29:56

I, no, let's do word association, I'm gonna say

29:58

Star Wars. You see the first three. where it's a pop into your

30:00

head. Yes, exactly.

30:04

That's all I have for minute number 140.

30:07

Uh, 141. Oh yeah,

30:09

both of them. I don't have anything for 140 either. So,

30:12

uh, we covered that last week. Yeah. Um,

30:16

yeah. Anything else? No, we're getting

30:18

close to the end here. So,

30:21

uh, I'm going to plug a more,

30:24

not more personal, but a more selfish

30:26

thing. I'm going to plug my merch, my merch store,

30:29

mine. And, uh,

30:31

you go to alexrobinson, supergenius.threadless.com.

30:35

That will take you to my, or just go to Threadless and

30:37

look up Alex Robinson, super genius, all one

30:39

giant word. And, uh, that will take

30:42

you to my merch store where no star Wars

30:44

designs that goes all in star

30:46

warsminute.com slash merch contractually

30:48

obligated. Yes. But if, uh,

30:51

you know, I do other stuff, I, I appropriate other

30:53

IP, not just star Wars. So, uh,

30:56

go check it out. What about you, Pete? Do you have any,

30:58

I was wearing a box office poison shirt right

31:00

here on this very show. I did notice that

31:02

actually. So I wanted to thank you for that.

31:05

Uh, what about you, Pete? Any,

31:07

uh, any side projects you want to say,

31:09

any hiatus projects you want to hype up? Um,

31:13

not right now. I did at one point

31:15

start up a, uh, a T public of

31:17

my own or a threadless of my own rather to put a

31:19

handful of things that are just nerd shirts

31:21

that I don't see out there. I'm filling a void

31:24

in shirts that I would want to have, but

31:26

I never did much with it. And I, I have a

31:28

bunch of half, half completed designs.

31:32

Um, but you know, like I said, we'll still be here. I think

31:34

I want to let people know to look out for a YouTube

31:37

star wars minute.com slash YouTube that will have some

31:39

new content coming up there. Awesome. That's

31:41

where I'll be flexing my muscles in the

31:44

video editing department. So, and

31:46

this will be exclusive on YouTube. Not

31:49

YouTube exclusives. I'm

31:52

going to head down to the steam back

31:54

and start cutting some celluloid right now. It's

31:58

only about Beck. me

32:00

and Becca. Alright,

32:03

so go do that and then join

32:05

us tomorrow for the season slash

32:08

series finale

32:11

of Star Wars Minute.