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Friday, May 10th. What's the price tag for

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likely something called a porkworm

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larva. We'll zoom in on the

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parasite R.A.K. Jr. says is in his brain

1:03

and student aid gets an F. Then I

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apologize to the students and families that have

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had to deal with delays. I know how

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frustrating that is. While going to college is

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getting more expensive and uncertain than ever before.

1:16

From ABC News, this is Start Here.

1:19

I'm Brad Milkey. In

1:27

the last 24 hours, there have been two

1:30

big pieces of news regarding former President Donald

1:32

Trump. The first concerns things that could keep

1:34

Trump out of the White House. The second

1:37

concerns things that could happen if Trump once

1:39

again wins the White House. So

1:41

let's walk you through both of them. First,

1:43

there was the trial about hush bunny payments,

1:46

right, that were allegedly covered up to help

1:48

Trump win an election. Yesterday, porn actress Stormy

1:50

Daniels once again took the stand to describe

1:52

the alleged encounter that started all of this

1:54

in the first place. And it

1:57

was interesting to me the other day when she

1:59

testified for the prosecution. because in all of her

2:01

lewd allegations about Trump going from PJs

2:03

to underwear in a hotel suite, about

2:05

a sense of her being surprised, even

2:08

uncomfortable with its alleged sexual encounter, not

2:10

only has Trump denied this happened, the defense says a

2:12

lot of her story now departs from how

2:14

she's told this story in the past. And

2:17

so when the prosecution finished its questions

2:19

a couple days ago, the defense asked

2:22

the judge for a mistrial. Among other

2:24

things, they said, this woman has tainted

2:26

the jury, they said, with stuff that's

2:28

not only irrelevant, but contradictory. The judge

2:30

responded by saying, that's what cross-examination is

2:32

for. After all, you want to convince

2:35

a jury someone's lying. That's not the

2:37

judge's job, that's the lawyer's job. The

2:39

problem for Trump's attorneys now was, if

2:41

you're going to try to expose inconsistencies

2:43

in Stormy Daniels' story, you got to do

2:46

through that, beat by beat, you got to

2:48

repeat these allegations, and that, in the eyes

2:50

of a jury, might do more harm than

2:52

good. Well, yesterday, the defense went

2:54

there. Stormy Daniels back

2:57

on the stand. Trump's lawyer aggressively questioning

2:59

Daniels. Challenging the porn star, you have

3:01

a lot of experience of making phony

3:03

stories about sex appear to be real.

3:05

Over and over, they questioned Daniels' story.

3:07

Daniels fired back. The sex in the

3:09

films is very real, she said, just

3:12

like what happened to me in that

3:14

room. Her description of going lightheaded when

3:16

seeing a guy in his boxer shorts.

3:18

They tried to use her career against

3:20

her, asking why a porn star would

3:22

be surprised by something like that. Well,

3:25

she clapped right back, saying, sorry, I

3:27

wasn't expecting to see a man twice

3:29

my age in bed. These questions got

3:31

personal. Necklace portraying Daniels as a scheming

3:33

opportunist, insisting her story of her time

3:36

with Trump, generated a ton of publicity

3:38

for you. Lots of bad

3:40

publicity, Daniels replied. When it was all

3:42

over, the defense once again asked for

3:44

a mistrial. The judge said no, effectively

3:46

saying, you've had your shot to question

3:48

her credibility. The rest is up to

3:50

the jury. So as they move on,

3:52

let's move on ourselves to the other

3:54

Big story here, which could be even

3:56

more consequential. That

4:00

the White House this fall people on

4:02

both sides the I'll agree he will

4:04

be in a better position than ever

4:06

to pull the levers of power. He's

4:08

got the experience on his side now.

4:10

We yesterday we learned that in a

4:12

dinner with deep pocketed oil executives last

4:14

month's former President Trump suggested. Asked for

4:16

kind of demanded. That these people

4:18

raise an eye popping amount of money for

4:21

hims for the pains. He assured them as

4:23

they would get a president that would roll

4:25

back years worth of environmental protection us and

4:27

would allow them to make even more money.

4:29

He sees White House correspondent mere hours Parks

4:32

is here Mireles I know the Washington Post

4:34

was was the first outlet to have this

4:36

news. A B C has is confirmed fatally.

4:38

the just the key parts of this dinner.

4:40

What do we know what what happened here

4:43

and like you said Brad will we know

4:45

is that Admiral also lost by Donald Trump

4:47

was. Courting donors specifically

4:49

the country's top oil

4:52

executives. And he apparently said you

4:54

guys should raise specifically a billion dollars

4:56

or that your wealth again as he

4:58

joked that you should raise this amount

5:00

of money because in the and you're

5:02

going to better sitting. Gain even more money

5:05

from the environmental policies that I'll put in

5:07

place for you. I in that he

5:09

had at six through a wide range of

5:11

policies am feel Some of which we've known

5:13

about a policy is that that his campaign

5:16

has touted. As part of his campaign platform. Of

5:18

and others. that's that. he was sort.

5:21

Of committing to putting in place on Day

5:23

once said he went back to the White

5:25

House. And what's interesting here as am.

5:27

The of the Washington Post describes as

5:29

as remarkably blunt. And transactional its in

5:32

its nature of this pitch was a sort

5:34

of a transactional piss. Some other sources we

5:36

talk to win Either way to say hey

5:38

has his environmental. Opposite of as they are

5:40

a lack of environmental. Energy policy is that

5:43

the Trump Campaign has been. Talking

5:45

about for a while we're going to

5:47

closer borders within a drill baby drill.

5:49

We're going to get the inflation but

5:51

it is interesting to solicit the full

5:53

scope of what the Trump campaign and

5:55

but Trump himself a talking about on

5:58

in terms of rolling back. Biden

6:00

energy policy. I feel

6:02

like a lot of Americans will say, yeah, I'm

6:04

sure this happens in the corridors of power all

6:06

the time, right? So, I mean, how usual or

6:08

unusual is this? Because there is a difference between

6:10

someone saying, if you don't give

6:12

me money, I'm not going to do this

6:14

for you, and saying, I'm probably going to do

6:16

this anyway, but if you donate money, it'll get me empowered

6:18

to do it, so you should donate. I mean, where does

6:21

this fit in? It makes me sad to

6:23

think that people think this happens all the time.

6:25

I think that this is different to

6:27

list dollar amount. I think it

6:30

is different to potentially say, so

6:32

you rub my back, my policies

6:34

will help rub your back. I

6:36

mean, it's been hard to obviously track

6:38

campaign finance donations in the same way

6:41

in the last several years, since we've

6:43

had a change in finance rules. I

6:45

mean, of course, a

6:48

billion dollars is well outside of

6:50

what any politician can solicit for

6:52

an individual to donate. So, we're

6:54

already talking about super PAC money,

6:57

dark money. It's hard

6:59

to track and not normal for

7:01

a politician to talk so bluntly

7:03

about how their policies are going

7:05

to benefit someone's financial bottom

7:07

line. But it is interesting, Brad, I

7:10

don't want to get lost in all of

7:12

this, what some of the actual policy specifics

7:14

are. Yeah, let's talk about them, because I feel

7:16

like we talk so much about whether Trump is

7:18

elected and less time about what happens if he's

7:20

elected. I mean, what would it mean for energy

7:22

policy if he wins back the White House? It

7:24

is remarkable when you kind of look at the

7:26

range of energy policies, environmental policies

7:28

that the Biden team has put

7:30

in place and that the Trump team is vowing

7:33

to roll back should Trump take the White House.

7:35

I mean, everything from tailpipe

7:37

admission standards, we've

7:39

seen this White House work actually pretty

7:41

closely with the auto industry to

7:44

increase admission standards, make

7:46

cars cleaner or future cars

7:48

cleaner. And

7:50

the Trump team, Trump himself,

7:52

apparently promising to roll all of that

7:55

back. And We've seen Trump on the

7:57

campaign trail mock those standards, mock any

7:59

push. for it. Electric vehicles soon, honestly

8:01

surprising, but is promising to rather standards

8:04

back immediately. Opponent Also things

8:06

like a promising. To auction off

8:08

more at least. As for oil drilling

8:10

in the Gulf of Mexico, said he

8:12

would reverse any restrictions on drilling in

8:14

the arts, a gun in the Alaskan

8:16

Arctic and it's I would roll that

8:18

any freeze on permits for new liquefied

8:20

natural gas exports are he apparently green

8:22

to enters the room that the that

8:25

the machine post ads as he promised

8:27

that you'll get that back on the

8:29

first day as we're really talking about

8:31

a range of energy policies here. Brad.

8:34

To an important amid oldest remember that

8:36

under the By Demonstration under President Biden

8:38

current policies the Us is producing more

8:41

oil per day in the history of

8:43

this country and said in the history

8:45

of any country ever have an out

8:47

thirteen million barrels a day Which is

8:49

why will companies been making profits just

8:51

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8:53

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alternative when he talks about medicine. And.

12:00

unfounded conspiracy theories surrounding vaccines. But this

12:02

week, his campaign got some of its

12:04

most intense scrutiny yet. The New York

12:06

Times dug through the transcript of a

12:09

deposition back in 2012, in

12:11

which Kennedy apparently described, quote, a worm that

12:13

got into my brain and ate a portion

12:15

of it and then died, end quote. And

12:17

this is the thing, if you want voters

12:19

to take a serious look at you for

12:21

president, in a year where you've said candidate

12:23

health is at the top of mind, well,

12:25

your own health becomes that much more significant.

12:27

Let's go to ABC's Sony Salzman from our

12:30

medical unit. Sony, a worm

12:32

eating your brain? Like, what does that mean? Is

12:34

that a real phenomenon? Yeah. Hey,

12:36

Brad. I mean, it is a very

12:38

shocking story, I will say, but it

12:40

is real. So, you

12:42

know, look, here's what happened. According

12:44

to, you know, this this deposition,

12:47

and we don't know exactly what

12:49

Kennedy's diagnosis is, but the way

12:51

that it was described is it

12:53

was likely something called a porkworm

12:55

larva. Now, what this is, is

12:58

you get it from eating undercooked pork or

13:01

somehow otherwise contaminated food, and

13:04

the larva kind of swim around in

13:06

your body, and they get lodged into

13:08

different tissues. And sometimes those tissues can

13:10

include the brain, right? Now, this is

13:13

rare in the United States. Estimates suggest that maybe

13:15

2000 people a year show

13:17

up in the hospital from this in

13:19

the US. It is more common in

13:21

lower income countries. But what can

13:24

happen is the worm is there, it's lodged in

13:26

the brain, and then that's

13:28

not really its home. That's not

13:30

part of its reproductive cycle. And

13:32

so it eventually dies, right? And

13:34

what happens is it calcifies, your

13:36

brain creates a little kind of

13:38

calcified ball surrounding it. And most

13:40

people who experience this, they will

13:43

kind of go on to live their

13:45

lives without any long term kind of

13:47

impact. But in the short term,

13:49

while this is happening, and while the worm is

13:51

dying, you know,

13:53

it can cause some issues. Well, and he

13:55

actually talked about this even more recently in

13:57

a podcast just this week. pushing

14:00

the limits. When I got a CAT

14:02

scan, they found a black spot in

14:05

my brain. And

14:07

the doctors immediately said that's a tumor. And

14:09

then, apparently, some other doctors took a look

14:12

and decided, no, this isn't a tumor, this

14:14

is actually something else. In the end, they

14:16

said that this is almost certainly a parasite

14:21

that got into your brain. But

14:23

again, Sony, going back to the idea that

14:25

it's eating away at the brain, is that

14:27

something that this worm, this parasite would do?

14:30

Well, technically, it's not eating, right?

14:32

So you have to remember, this

14:35

is an organism that doesn't necessarily have a

14:37

mouth. It sounds more interesting to say it's

14:40

eating the brain tissue, but it's actually

14:42

just absorbing nutrients. What's actually happening

14:44

is that it's kind of absorbing

14:46

nutrients passively, according to experts and

14:48

parasitologists that we spoke to. And

14:51

it's probably not even dealing with any brain

14:53

tissue at all. It's probably getting most of its

14:55

nutrients from the blood supply that's

14:57

supplying the brain itself. And

14:59

so it's just basically moving the brain tissue out

15:01

of the way as it's growing. And

15:03

so it will kind of absorb those

15:06

nutrients passively before dying. And again, the

15:09

body forms that calcified ball around it, which

15:11

can appear at first glance to be something

15:13

like a tumor. I see. So how would

15:16

this happen in the first place?

15:18

Because I think a lot of people immediately

15:20

were kind of joking about this until the

15:22

Kennedy campaign came out and said in the

15:24

statement, he got this while traveling in either

15:26

Africa or South America or Asia in his

15:28

work as an environmental advocate. They said this

15:30

issue has since resolved itself. I mean, but

15:32

is that about how this would play out?

15:34

And should people be concerned about his fitness,

15:36

I guess? Well, obviously, we

15:39

haven't evaluated him. We haven't

15:41

spoken to doctors who have

15:44

personally evaluated Kennedy. But generally

15:46

speaking, that scenario that

15:48

was mapped out by his campaign, that

15:50

this is more than 10 years ago,

15:52

and it's completely resolved. I mean, that

15:54

is plausible. A brain parasite called neurosister

15:56

cirrhosis happens to be the most common

15:58

parasitic infection of humans in the

16:00

world. We spoke to neurologist Leah Kroll

16:03

for example and what she suggested is

16:05

that when patients are experiencing something like

16:07

this there is this kind of acute

16:09

phase where the worm is still alive

16:12

right and that can cause some problems.

16:14

Some people will have seizures, some people

16:16

won't, some people will develop elevated pressure

16:18

in the brain, some people won't. In

16:20

fact in some countries this is one

16:23

of the more common causes of seizures

16:25

in people and then once that worm

16:27

dies then depending, it all depends on

16:29

the portion of the brain in which it's

16:31

lodged but for the most part most people can

16:34

kind of you know be okay and once they

16:36

move on into the next phase they will live

16:38

with this in their brain for

16:40

the rest of their lives but it

16:42

won't cause kind of permanent neurological impact.

16:44

So again to circle back Brad on

16:46

your question of you know if he's

16:48

physically fit only him and his doctors

16:50

know that. But

16:53

there was a complicated health picture that

16:55

he portrayed in that deposition happening at

16:58

around that time. Another complicating factor that

17:00

he described was what he described as

17:02

a mercury poisoning which may have contributed

17:05

to some of those cognitive symptoms that

17:07

he described having at that time things

17:09

like brain fog, memory loss. So all

17:12

of that kind of complicates the picture

17:14

and it really begs the

17:16

question what was going on at

17:18

that time if any of those symptoms are

17:21

lingering today his campaign says no and

17:23

doctors that we've spoken to say that

17:25

it broadly is plausible that you might

17:27

have these two health experiences they might

17:30

completely resolve and then you go on

17:32

to be okay. Wow really sort of

17:34

bizarre developments as again so much of this

17:36

campaign in Kennedy's own words is gonna be

17:38

about health so therefore when he revealed the

17:40

story a lot of people were concerned. Sony

17:42

Salzman thank you so much. Yeah thank you

17:44

so much Brad. This

17:48

week the price of Treasury bonds went up

17:51

which means very little to most of us

17:53

myself included but it also ensured that the

17:55

interest rates for student loans will now go

17:57

up to levels not seen in 15

18:00

years. It is an expensive moment to

18:03

be a student and with College

18:05

Decision Day technically behind them, some

18:07

high schoolers are still confused as to

18:09

how much help they will actually be

18:11

receiving this fall. That is because

18:14

the FAFSA form, the Free Application for

18:16

Federal Student Aid, has gotten a reboot

18:18

from the federal government and it's gone

18:20

terribly. ABC's Elizabeth Schulze covers economics

18:23

for us. Elizabeth, what

18:25

happened here? Okay, there's a lot going on

18:27

with the FAFSA, Brad, but first I just need to say

18:29

I don't know why you wouldn't be tracking Treasury bond

18:31

prices all the time. It's really important. That's why

18:33

everyone should be for the cost of borrowing. But

18:36

anyways, the FAFSA rollout has been

18:38

a nightmare this year. What happened,

18:41

Brad? The free form

18:43

that is basically the gateway to

18:45

any financial aid for families in

18:47

the US for college. That

18:49

was revamped this year. The Department of Education

18:52

rolled out a new form, a new

18:54

process entirely that cut down the number of

18:56

questions. It was supposed to simplify how

18:59

families could qualify for aid and even

19:01

get families to apply for more aid

19:03

like Pell Grants, which is basically

19:05

money that you get from the federal government in the form

19:08

of a grant that you don't have to pay back. But

19:11

what we have seen instead in this

19:13

rollout is it's just been botched and

19:15

riddled with errors and delays. My family

19:17

has been so scared because my mom

19:19

is like, what if you won't be

19:21

able to go to UIC anymore? A

19:23

lot of students have had to correct

19:26

forms that they submitted. They had issues

19:28

with submitting them in the first place.

19:31

There have been processing delays, which basically

19:33

means that students who have completed the

19:35

FAFSA form, it's been delayed actually sending

19:37

it out to the schools that they

19:39

have applied for. So the schools aren't

19:41

getting back to them with answers about how

19:43

much financial aid they might qualify for. And

19:45

all of this has been, the Department of

19:47

Education admits, a pretty big mess. The

19:50

delays created frustrations and to the families

19:52

and students who had to deal with

19:54

that, I recognize how difficult that was.

19:56

We saw this week the Education Secretary Miguel

19:58

Cardona tested for aid. on

20:00

Capitol Hill. And I apologize to the students and families

20:03

that have had to deal with delays. I know how

20:05

frustrating that is. This is

20:07

all intended to fix a system that for

20:09

too long has kept people out. He basically

20:11

admitted that the department gets an

20:13

F when it comes

20:15

to the rollout of these new FAFSA

20:18

forms. And as a result, that has

20:20

had a huge impact on a lot

20:22

of families. And it's added a lot

20:24

of stress, Brad, onto an already stressful

20:26

process for so many high school seniors

20:28

and for their families too. And

20:31

I remember when you get accepted to college,

20:33

you get the acceptance letter. And often right

20:35

next to it, in the same folder, you

20:37

get your financial aid details. Congratulations, you're in.

20:39

We're offering you this much in financial aid.

20:41

So what is happening to students right now?

20:44

That's exactly it because this used to be

20:46

a decision that was linked. You would be

20:48

able to, at the same time that you

20:50

got your acceptance letter, know exactly what the

20:52

price that you would be paying for that

20:54

school if you decide to go there. The

20:57

reality is, for most families, you

20:59

can't separate those two factors. The

21:02

cost of college is so expensive now. And

21:04

we've talked about how we've seen some universities

21:06

approaching six figures when you look at their

21:08

tuition rates. That is not a decision that

21:10

you can make without also knowing what your

21:12

financial aid package is going to be. I would

21:14

basically be accepting a decision to a school where I

21:17

have no clue how much I'm actually going to have

21:19

to pay. And that is so scary because when we're

21:21

talking the difference between what could be 20, 30K a

21:23

year, or 50 to

21:25

60K a year, I mean that 20 to 30,000 K

21:28

a year difference is a huge burden on my

21:30

family. I've been talking to some high

21:32

school seniors who say they're now in a

21:34

bind because they want to go to a

21:36

certain university, but they don't know how they

21:39

would pay to go to that university. One

21:41

student I talked to, Sami Saeed, he's a

21:43

senior in Maryland, and he said that he's

21:45

up against the clock where these schools want

21:47

an answer from him. It was basically telling me we'd

21:49

have to wait weeks to even get your

21:51

form, more weeks to process it. And then we know

21:54

we're already going to have to send it back to

21:56

you, basically saying we couldn't do it. And so that

21:58

was really infuriating, and it was so unclear. to me

22:00

what had happened. But he doesn't colleges

22:18

and universities to extend their decision day

22:20

past May 1st. Mainly the schools that

22:22

I'm focusing on like University of Maryland

22:24

and GW, they've been kind enough to

22:27

actually give extensions. Not all schools did

22:29

that though. More than 200 colleges and

22:31

universities across the country have basically postponed

22:34

those commitment deadlines to the middle

22:36

of this month which we're already approaching the

22:38

middle of this month or to June. So

22:40

the system while delayed is working.

22:42

We have a strategy, a nationwide

22:44

strategy to get students to fill

22:46

it out. But

22:50

one of the bigger issues here Brad

22:52

is the fact that all of this

22:54

confusion and this botched rollout of this

22:57

new FAFSA form means that

22:59

fewer people are completing the application

23:01

altogether. Data from the National College

23:03

Attainment Network shows that completed

23:05

FAFSA forms are down about

23:07

30% compared to this time last

23:11

year. That is one-third fewer applications

23:13

and what that means when you

23:15

talk to education experts, people

23:17

who are looking closely at the

23:19

higher education world, they're worried that

23:21

that means that fewer people will

23:23

go to college altogether because the

23:25

fact is if people aren't getting

23:27

that financial aid aren't applying for it in the first

23:29

place that means they might not be going to

23:31

college altogether. Such high stakes here for

23:33

so many families because you can knock

23:36

college all you want but like the

23:38

truth is for so many Americans this

23:40

is the ticket. This is the

23:42

beginning of the rest of your life

23:44

so big decision regardless of what the

23:46

decision is. Elizabeth Scholzy thank you so

23:48

much. Thanks so much Brad. Okay one

23:50

more quick break. When we come back the

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Out of all the condiments out

24:34

there, very few inspire as much

24:36

ravenous fandom as Sriracha. The pork

24:38

belly Sriracha Brussels. Yeah. So you

24:40

could make even Brussels sprouts. Amazing.

24:43

Sriracha sauce, originally inspired by Southeast

24:45

Asian cuisine, is red, kind of

24:47

spicy, kind of smoky. There

24:49

are several brands that now make it, but

24:51

the original distributor in the US is We

24:54

Fong Foods in Los Angeles. They're the ones

24:56

that make the iconic plastic bottle with the

24:58

green top and red rooster. They

25:05

don't advertise. They don't need to. It's

25:07

that popular. Well, now it appears that

25:09

you won't be able to easily buy

25:11

their Sriracha for months. Recently in a

25:13

letter to distributors, We Fong Foods said

25:15

they won't be making new bottles of

25:17

Sriracha until the fall. You

25:22

might want to start rationing your supply

25:24

of the red hot sauce. The issue,

25:26

apparently, is they don't have enough jalapeno

25:28

peppers to make the sauce. Specifically, their

25:30

supplier in Mexico doesn't have enough red

25:32

jalapenos, which is kind of funny considering

25:34

red and green jalapenos are the same

25:36

plant, just the red ones are a

25:38

bit older, more mature. They have different

25:41

flavor profiles, though, and they literally make

25:43

the sauce redder. So We Fong will

25:45

only accept red peppers, even if they

25:47

got bits of green on them. They

25:49

go in the trash. A drought in

25:51

Mexico, though, means they're out of luck. The

25:54

other wild thing here is that other

25:56

Sriracha makers are not having this issue.

25:58

It's only We Fong, which... has

26:00

a spicy history with jalapeno distributors. They

26:02

worked with one California farm for 20

26:04

years until a dramatic falling out that

26:07

ended in lawsuits and shortages and customers

26:09

paying upwards of a hundred bucks per

26:11

bottle on the black market. If anyone's

26:13

guessed it, they'll find a new backup

26:15

by the fall because if they don't,

26:18

hot sauce fans will really be feeling

26:20

the heat. Or

26:24

like, I mean, would be considered green sriracha? Is that on,

26:26

I mean, is that on the menu at all? Hey,

26:28

one other thing to tell you about

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27:00

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our managing editor, Laura Mayer is our

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Newman, Tara Gimbel, and Liz Alessi. Special

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thanks this week to Chris Berry, Matt

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Lezow, Taylor Dunn, and John Santucci. I'm

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Brad Hilke. See you next week. Hey,

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